Rebel News Podcast - Best of 2020： Fight the Fines

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00:00:17.840 compilations of some of our favorite videos this past year.

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00:01:13.740 Okay, here's today's show.

00:01:19.980 You're listening to a Rebel News Podcast.

00:01:25.100 Tonight, the best of our series called Fight the Fines.

00:01:34.600 It's Christmas Eve, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:39.700 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:43.560 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:47.200 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:58.200 Well, we know who the Grinch is this Christmas.

00:02:01.500 It's the politicians and their lockdowns.

00:02:03.660 Don't blame it on the virus.

00:02:05.500 The virus did its damage, and it's a shame,

00:02:07.580 but it's the politicians who seized the opportunity for power and authoritarianism

00:02:12.460 and to take away our civil liberties.

00:02:14.140 And one of the worst things they did was to attack people who couldn't fight back.

00:02:18.420 Small businesses, ordinary people who couldn't pay the fines

00:02:21.600 and couldn't hire a lawyer to fight the fines.

00:02:24.380 So about six months ago, we came up with the idea that we would crowdfund to fight the fines.

00:02:28.300 We love crowdfunding.

00:02:29.560 People say we do it too much.

00:02:30.920 No, I disagree because we've been able to help literally dozens.

00:02:34.240 In fact, well over 100, if you add it all up in the different jurisdictions,

00:02:38.740 the number of people we've taken a case for or are currently intaking,

00:02:43.360 you're not even going to believe me when I say it's more than 300 people.

00:02:47.340 A lot of them are in Australia, and we've handled that in one big bundle.

00:02:50.880 But in other jurisdictions, especially here in Canada,

00:02:54.060 we are fighting the fines for people that the politicians and the police have chosen to pick on.

00:03:00.260 So that's the Grinch.

00:03:01.420 Well, our lawyers are looking to fight back, and that's what our show today is.

00:03:06.620 Here's the best of Fight the Fines.

00:03:09.540 I'm here in sunny Barrie in Wales to speak to Anthony Claypole

00:03:12.560 on another case I'm investigating for Fight the Fines UK.

00:03:16.260 This is yet another case of corrupt fines being issued totally unfairly

00:03:21.500 to people simply trying to go about their ordinary lives.

00:03:25.200 Anthony Claypole earlier on this year was playing football in the park

00:03:28.460 with a friend and with his kids.

00:03:30.200 Now, this sort of exercise was totally mandated by the government, totally allowed,

00:03:34.400 and yet the police still hounded him and harassed him

00:03:36.960 and hit him with a £60 fine, which has since gone up,

00:03:40.220 for no good reason, to almost £1,000.

00:03:43.260 This is what Anthony Claypole had to say about his case.

00:03:46.580 So I'm here with Anthony Claypole, who earlier on in the year got fined in this very field,

00:03:50.920 which is by no means a small field.

00:03:54.440 There's probably no better place in Wales to be socially distanced.

00:03:58.060 What exactly did you get fined for?

00:04:00.380 Well, apparently I'd broken the coronavirus laws,

00:04:03.040 and they accused us of having a picnic.

00:04:06.420 I was in a field with apparently more than two people.

00:04:09.500 So in this massive field with more than two people,

00:04:12.520 and that's apparently a huge threat to public health, as it were.

00:04:18.160 But they find you for having a picnic.

00:04:21.240 Well, they said we were having a picnic.

00:04:22.660 We actually wasn't.

00:04:23.700 Right, so you didn't have any food.

00:04:24.960 No.

00:04:25.200 But you were sitting down on a blanket.

00:04:27.400 No, my partner was on a blanket because our younger son, Archie, is autistic,

00:04:31.520 and he wouldn't venture far from her, so she set the blanket down.

00:04:34.320 And myself and my friend were lashing a football back and forth.

00:04:38.180 And we were at least probably 50 feet apart at the time doing this.

00:04:41.240 Right.

00:04:42.040 And as I say, meanwhile, the kids were riding around on their bikes.

00:04:44.820 My partner was on a blanket with Archie,

00:04:47.140 and my friend Darren's wife was on a blanket probably about three metres apart,

00:04:52.040 because the girls had that in mind.

00:04:54.040 Because their youngest is a baby, and he couldn't even crawl at the time.

00:04:56.980 So he was having tummy time.

00:04:58.200 Right.

00:04:58.800 And, yeah, that's basically what happened.

00:05:00.640 They came from that direction over there and walked straight towards us,

00:05:03.480 made a beeline for us.

00:05:04.780 What exactly did they say to you?

00:05:07.320 They came over to break up the party

00:05:10.020 and told us that we were breaking the coronavirus laws

00:05:13.760 and that we had to move on.

00:05:16.300 Right.

00:05:16.660 And then they threatened you, apparently, didn't they?

00:05:20.800 Well, she wanted my details.

00:05:22.680 The guy was actually quite approachable,

00:05:24.580 but the female PCSO was, yeah, she had an attitude from the get-go.

00:05:31.820 And then they told you that they were going to arrest you in front of your children?

00:05:34.980 They did, yeah.

00:05:35.600 So they were sort of intimidating you and threatening you.

00:05:40.400 So I believe they said verbatim, you don't want your children to see that.

00:05:44.460 Yeah, they tried to use my children against me as if I was creating the situation

00:05:49.140 when, in fact, they were the ones that were causing the lamb distress, I would argue,

00:05:53.880 to not only myself but my young kids as well.

00:05:56.600 So they came from that direction and then you moved over into that direction

00:06:00.180 and where the other police turned up.

00:06:02.680 Yeah, they confronted us around sort of this area

00:06:05.060 and I said to my partner, come on, we'll just go home.

00:06:07.400 I've got work in two hours.

00:06:08.900 And we packed up and we went across that direction.

00:06:12.440 And these two PCSOs, they followed us at close proximity.

00:06:15.720 All the while, two of my kids were turning around,

00:06:17.980 but Daddy, they're following us.

00:06:19.040 But Dad, they're following us.

00:06:19.820 It's like, relax, it's okay, just ignore them.

00:06:21.740 They're not there.

00:06:22.740 And when we exited the field onto a street down there,

00:06:24.820 a riot van came bombing around the corner,

00:06:26.680 mounted the pavement in front of us and out jumped two proper coppers, if you like.

00:06:29.780 So you were actually going home?

00:06:31.000 We were leaving the field, yeah.

00:06:35.480 Oh, no.

00:06:42.580 So you were basically complied?

00:06:43.900 They wouldn't leave us alone.

00:06:44.820 They were the ones following you?

00:06:46.380 They were, yeah.

00:06:46.880 And almost like a pincer movement, you know.

00:06:49.340 Well, she phoned for the back up here.

00:06:50.780 And obviously, when we went in that direction,

00:06:53.140 she's obviously on the radio saying,

00:06:54.560 we're coming out on the pastures.

00:06:55.700 As though they're chasing someone who's just committed some kind of burglary or something, you know.

00:07:00.700 That's, it seems like an overreaction, doesn't it?

00:07:03.520 It does, yeah.

00:07:04.320 But obviously, for you, you've got five children.

00:07:05.840 You've got four at home.

00:07:06.520 Yeah.

00:07:07.000 Two of them are sort of vulnerable.

00:07:08.740 One's got autism, one's got aspergers.

00:07:11.340 You can't have them cooped up in a house all day.

00:07:13.160 No, it's not good for them.

00:07:14.140 Not good for them, no?

00:07:14.660 It's not good for their health.

00:07:15.460 It's not good for children in general, in my opinion.

00:07:17.840 Children are not supposed to be cooped up in a house.

00:07:19.920 And considering this field is on my doorstep,

00:07:22.780 it's less than 10 minutes walk from my house,

00:07:24.980 I felt like this was probably the best location to come

00:07:27.400 if they could ride around on their bikes.

00:07:29.460 And, you know, they were happy, they were laughing,

00:07:32.020 they were having fun like kids should be.

00:07:33.840 And that mood changed when the PCSOs come from that direction.

00:07:37.320 And they literally, there were other people in the field,

00:07:39.420 but they made a beeline for us.

00:07:41.520 And that's when the mood changed.

00:07:42.780 And why do you think that was, that they went for you?

00:07:45.920 Well, I don't know.

00:07:47.400 Maybe they just walked through the Snicket by chance

00:07:49.260 and saw us, or whether I was tagged

00:07:52.680 because of my post on Facebook, I don't know.

00:07:56.300 Right, so you've been quite vocal about this stuff in the past

00:07:59.860 and you think it's possible that maybe there are people out there

00:08:02.920 who are, you know, they've got a grudge, as it were.

00:08:06.920 Well, I think that they don't generally like people who speak out,

00:08:11.280 especially against the state and things like that.

00:08:13.520 But for sure, they made a beeline straight for us.

00:08:17.100 There were other people in the field, but they came for us.

00:08:19.340 And since then, you've received a lot of correspondence,

00:08:21.820 obviously from ACRO and, you know, all sorts of other organisations.

00:08:27.320 They sent you notices and fines.

00:08:30.560 And what was the fine originally?

00:08:32.500 So originally, it was what they call a fixed penalty notice.

00:08:36.280 And it was from a company called ACRO.

00:08:39.740 I was told to ignore that.

00:08:41.700 So I was told to not pay that because I hadn't done anything wrong.

00:08:45.440 It says here the charge is that you contravene the requirement

00:08:48.820 to not participate in a gathering in public of more than two people.

00:08:52.440 Quite a charge, yeah.

00:08:54.560 So basically, the charge is not being a loan.

00:08:57.900 Yeah.

00:08:58.540 And the amount of this was £60?

00:09:01.080 At the time, yeah, initially it was £60.

00:09:02.920 Right.

00:09:04.440 It's since gone up to £816 plus charges, plus fees, plus all the rest.

00:09:11.800 And then you got the other one, I think, from...

00:09:13.840 And then I received this, which is what they call a single justice procedure

00:09:16.840 from the South Wales Police.

00:09:18.280 Again, this on the second page goes into the charge, as it were.

00:09:21.760 Well, this one, the charge has changed to participating in public gathering.

00:09:25.740 Yeah.

00:09:25.940 That sounds a lot more like you're at a protest or a party.

00:09:30.260 Not in a group of a few people.

00:09:31.540 A small protest.

00:09:32.120 Yeah.

00:09:32.440 A lot of young members.

00:09:33.460 Yeah, a lot of young kids protesting against not being able to cycle around a field.

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:39.720 But, yeah, no, that's phrased in a lot more of a serious kind of term.

00:09:44.580 Yeah, it's probably more threatening.

00:09:46.240 It seemed that they up the ante with that one.

00:09:47.840 And they gave me the chance, though, to enter my plea, attend court, or plead guilty,

00:09:53.880 which I was never going to do.

00:09:55.160 Yeah.

00:09:55.440 Because I'm not guilty of anything.

00:09:57.340 So, again, I was advised not to create juncture with them, not to accept that,

00:10:01.020 because as soon as I sent that off, I was creating a contract with them

00:10:04.300 and accepting the fine, accepting the charge.

00:10:06.340 I can see here there's a section called Your Plea.

00:10:08.820 Yes.

00:10:09.320 You've pled not guilty.

00:10:10.420 Indeed.

00:10:11.400 It seems a bit serious, doesn't it, that you have to have a guilty or not guilty plea for...

00:10:15.120 For being in a field with your children.

00:10:16.280 Something like this, you know, yeah.

00:10:18.120 And was it at this point that the fine went up on this form?

00:10:22.360 No, I ignored...

00:10:23.300 Again, I ignored that on the basis that I was not to accept,

00:10:26.580 create contract with them and accept the fine and the charge.

00:10:29.140 Yeah.

00:10:29.780 And then the next thing you knew, just a couple of weeks ago,

00:10:33.500 I woke up to a message from a friend saying that I was apparently famous

00:10:36.260 on the Barriand District website.

00:10:38.780 Right.

00:10:39.200 Where they had posted a big header saying that Barriand was charged

00:10:44.380 breaching coronavirus laws, or regulations, whatever it was,

00:10:47.960 and then they had my full blurb, my name, my address, charged with the price.

00:10:53.700 It's very much like a criminal at large kind of thing.

00:10:57.000 Yeah, on the website of the Barriand District News.

00:10:58.740 So that's publicly humiliating, I mean, it's a small community, isn't it?

00:11:03.260 Yeah, kind of.

00:11:03.800 It's not that big a town.

00:11:05.300 Right.

00:11:06.200 But at that point, I still hadn't had any correspondence from the courts.

00:11:09.600 They hadn't informed me I'd been fine.

00:11:11.580 It seems that the Barriand District got all of this information

00:11:13.960 and they were allowed to just post that on the website.

00:11:15.960 They'd scare people, I guess.

00:11:16.960 So you've put here, under your information for the court,

00:11:20.080 I'm pleading not guilty because I had not broken any laws.

00:11:22.420 I was acting lawfully, committing no loss, harm or injury to anybody.

00:11:26.240 Yeah.

00:11:26.620 If I'm good enough to travel the country and my job,

00:11:28.540 then I'm good enough to take my children to a field to ride their bikes.

00:11:32.200 Yeah.

00:11:32.760 Also, the police statement contains zero context and is not a factual document

00:11:36.240 according to what happened.

00:11:37.680 I have video footage.

00:11:39.020 Yes.

00:11:39.280 So it sounds like you're fighting this.

00:11:41.240 You're not giving up.

00:11:41.820 No, I'm not going to give up.

00:11:42.660 I'm not going to pay it.

00:11:43.360 The initial fine was what, £60?

00:11:45.260 Initially it was £60, yeah.

00:11:46.600 What has it gone up to?

00:11:48.760 £816 plus cost plus surcharge.

00:11:51.060 So with all the costs, you're looking at about a grand.

00:11:53.260 Near enough, I'd say, yeah, because they didn't tell me

00:11:55.380 when I contacted Cardiff magistrates to confirm that this actually was a case.

00:11:59.720 I asked who's the victim surcharge for,

00:12:02.500 because in my opinion, I'm the victim.

00:12:05.360 But they reckon they add that to every case

00:12:07.560 every time someone's charged for something.

00:12:09.420 They add a surcharge.

00:12:10.660 So it's not a surcharge then.

00:12:12.000 It's added every time.

00:12:12.960 Well, that's what they call it, surcharge.

00:12:14.880 So they're just bolting things on, you know, sort of arbitrarily.

00:12:18.840 At the time, though, wasn't the maximum fine that they could offer you,

00:12:21.620 £100, £120?

00:12:22.680 I believe so, yeah, because if you bear in mind, this happened in me.

00:12:25.580 So we were in lockdown one, and at that time, to my knowledge anyway,

00:12:29.160 we were in what they call a tiered fine system, fine structure,

00:12:33.140 where if you were caught for the first offence, use that term loosely,

00:12:37.520 it was sort of £60 or £100,

00:12:39.380 and every time you got caught after that, if you did so...

00:12:42.220 Using the term offence very loosely,

00:12:43.940 when you're talking about kicking a football around in the field

00:12:45.620 and letting your children cycle around and exercise and get out of the house,

00:12:49.240 I mean, that's, you know, not exactly a hardened criminal.

00:12:52.580 Not really, no.

00:12:53.420 No.

00:12:54.760 But, no, I mean, so they've since brought in this higher fine system.

00:12:58.920 Just recently.

00:12:59.700 And they're kind of retroactively imposing that upon what you did back in May.

00:13:04.580 And then all of the fees and all the rest of it that go into that,

00:13:07.420 you're looking at almost £1,000.

00:13:09.080 Nearly, yeah, pretty much.

00:13:09.880 Which isn't a small sum.

00:13:11.760 That's quite a worrying amount,

00:13:14.100 especially when you've got young children.

00:13:15.760 And all the rest of it.

00:13:16.880 And so close to Christmas.

00:13:18.480 You know, that's the kind of thing that could ruin Christmas.

00:13:21.120 Well, I can't afford it, to be quite honest with you,

00:13:22.900 because I'm the only one that works in my household,

00:13:24.780 because our children are young still,

00:13:26.780 so my partner can't go to work yet.

00:13:28.940 And obviously, as you say, just before Christmas,

00:13:30.700 to be lumped with this, it would be impossible for me.

00:13:34.220 And it's one of those situations where it's kind of catch-22.

00:13:36.840 You pay the fine, can't afford that.

00:13:38.420 But also, you've got to fight the fine,

00:13:39.800 you can't afford that either.

00:13:41.160 So, what do you do?

00:13:42.240 You're stuck in a position where they are

00:13:43.900 expecting you to shell out money

00:13:46.020 that you don't have before Christmas.

00:13:47.600 And that's one of the reasons why we're doing this.

00:13:50.000 We're fighting the fines,

00:13:51.080 and we're providing you with a legal team

00:13:53.360 who will fight it on your behalf.

00:13:54.480 I appreciate that.

00:13:55.140 And Rebel News, of course, are funding that

00:13:58.380 through the donations of our supporters.

00:14:00.900 And if you, at home, sympathize with Anthony's case

00:14:04.560 or other cases like it,

00:14:06.600 you can go to fightthefines.co.uk

00:14:08.020 and you can chip in and donate there.

00:14:10.120 Or if you also have a similar case like this

00:14:12.940 and you want our help,

00:14:14.400 you can submit a report at the same URL.

00:14:16.520 Today, I'm excited to introduce you to Bridget Carlson,

00:14:19.400 not because of the terrible things she says happened to her,

00:14:21.700 but because, well, she needs our help to fight back.

00:14:25.520 She's a young mom from North Bay, Ontario,

00:14:28.220 and she's got a genuinely harrowing tale

00:14:32.060 that will outrage and anger you.

00:14:33.940 I know it angers me a lot.

00:14:36.260 I spoke to Bridget last week over Skype,

00:14:38.280 and I was livid, mom to mom,

00:14:41.760 to hear what happened to her.

00:14:43.080 It was so upsetting

00:14:43.880 that we just had to find a way to help her out.

00:14:46.900 So we sent one of our really great Toronto-based videographers

00:14:51.940 up to North Bay to talk to Bridget

00:14:54.120 to get her side of the story on camera

00:14:55.860 so that we could show all of you.

00:14:58.120 Just watch.

00:15:01.200 We were on this wing for about 15,

00:15:04.120 we were here for about 15 or 20 minutes.

00:15:06.300 She was just on this wing.

00:15:07.960 We weren't hurting anyone.

00:15:09.420 We were here by ourselves.

00:15:10.940 The police showed up.

00:15:12.380 Two officers approached us

00:15:14.220 and told us that we were breaking.

00:15:16.340 And they put handcuffs on my mom.

00:15:19.300 I told them that we weren't harming anyone,

00:15:21.120 that we needed to get outside

00:15:22.760 and get some normality

00:15:23.660 and just get some fresh air.

00:15:25.240 We were talking for a little while,

00:15:26.700 just like on a human-to-human level,

00:15:28.340 explaining where I was coming from

00:15:31.040 and all of this mental health.

00:15:32.620 The lockdown,

00:15:33.500 two months being inside with my daughter

00:15:35.160 with no support.

00:15:36.660 They proceeded to call back up.

00:15:38.600 The sergeant showed up here.

00:15:40.000 Same thing, I tried to discuss it with him.

00:15:41.640 He didn't want to hear it.

00:15:42.640 He grabbed my arm,

00:15:44.160 took my backpack off,

00:15:45.580 proceeded to put me in handcuffs,

00:15:47.240 separated me from my daughter.

00:15:49.300 I was taken up to the police vehicle

00:15:51.880 where a cop did a body search on me

00:15:54.100 and it was very thorough and invasive.

00:15:57.060 From there,

00:15:57.820 they put me to the back of the cop car

00:15:59.460 and I didn't even know

00:16:01.460 where my daughter was at that time.

00:16:03.920 They went through all my things

00:16:05.080 against my will.

00:16:06.800 We were separated for about 20 minutes.

00:16:08.500 He called me an idiot

00:16:09.260 and yelled in my face.

00:16:10.380 They finally came back

00:16:11.720 and released me from the cop car,

00:16:14.900 took my handcuffs off

00:16:15.960 and gave me an $880 ticket.

00:16:18.300 From there on,

00:16:18.960 they didn't say anything.

00:16:20.060 They just gave me the ticket

00:16:21.360 and told me if I didn't pay it

00:16:22.640 that they would take my license away from me.

00:16:25.300 And so we left the car

00:16:26.280 hand in hand,

00:16:27.560 me and my daughter.

00:16:28.560 That's how it happened.

00:16:29.480 It's been terrible.

00:16:30.180 My heart,

00:16:31.020 my heartbeat

00:16:31.660 has been like racing

00:16:32.980 since this happened.

00:16:33.800 I'm up till midnight,

00:16:35.600 till one o'clock in the morning.

00:16:37.040 I'm having night sweats.

00:16:38.520 I've lost weight.

00:16:39.720 I can't believe

00:16:40.360 that we're living in a country

00:16:41.480 that's capable of doing this

00:16:42.840 to the citizens.

00:16:44.080 I'm a student

00:16:44.820 at Nipissing University.

00:16:46.140 I'll be going into fourth year.

00:16:47.640 I'm a single mom.

00:16:49.180 The only income I receive

00:16:50.600 is through OSAP.

00:16:51.680 I don't have the money

00:16:52.460 to pay $880

00:16:53.440 and I'm doing everything I can

00:16:55.440 to support my daughter.

00:16:56.660 I don't know what I'm going to do.

00:17:01.020 Bridget's story

00:17:01.780 made me so mad for her

00:17:03.400 and her whole family.

00:17:04.880 I'm sure you feel that way too.

00:17:06.780 And how awful

00:17:07.620 for her five-year-old

00:17:08.740 to witness it all.

00:17:09.620 I know my kids

00:17:10.320 would be absolutely distraught.

00:17:12.880 Who was Bridget hurting

00:17:13.860 in an empty park

00:17:14.780 alone with her five-year-old?

00:17:16.320 Who was in danger?

00:17:17.740 Whose health

00:17:18.440 was she putting at risk?

00:17:20.060 What made her so dangerous

00:17:22.040 that day

00:17:22.600 that she needed to be cuffed,

00:17:24.380 stuffed in a cop car

00:17:25.460 and searched

00:17:26.100 her body

00:17:26.820 and her belongings

00:17:27.900 in front of her child?

00:17:30.120 Treated like a street thug

00:17:31.400 or a violent offender,

00:17:32.520 like an actual criminal

00:17:34.060 instead of a mom

00:17:35.280 just taking her daughter

00:17:36.180 out for some fresh air.

00:17:38.080 And all of this

00:17:39.020 happened to Bridget

00:17:39.800 before she was issued

00:17:41.540 an insane $800 fine.

00:17:44.140 It's crazy.

00:17:44.760 It hardly feels like Canada.

00:17:46.720 How can Bridget

00:17:47.380 fight this alone?

00:17:48.740 The good news is

00:17:49.560 she's not alone.

00:17:51.520 Bridget has accepted

00:17:52.560 our offer

00:17:53.220 to help her fight this fine.

00:17:54.960 That would be wonderful.

00:17:56.020 Thank you so much.

00:17:57.420 We put Bridget in touch

00:17:58.720 with the top Toronto

00:18:00.020 criminal lawyer

00:18:00.820 we've been working with,

00:18:02.620 Sam Goldstein.

00:18:03.780 He's a bencher

00:18:04.740 with the Law Society of Ontario.

00:18:07.320 Now, I spoke to Sam

00:18:08.460 earlier about what

00:18:10.280 Bridget says

00:18:11.040 happened to her that day

00:18:12.440 and why he agreed

00:18:13.680 to take on her case.

00:18:15.360 Just watch.

00:18:16.060 What I understand

00:18:16.960 is that there may

00:18:18.460 very well be

00:18:19.060 an infringement

00:18:19.820 of Ms. Carlson's rights.

00:18:22.240 And mostly

00:18:22.940 what I'm concerned about

00:18:24.060 is whether the police

00:18:25.100 had the lawful authority

00:18:26.940 to arrest her

00:18:29.720 and then to proceed

00:18:31.020 to search her.

00:18:32.120 With respect to Ms. Carlson,

00:18:33.580 I understand the allegation

00:18:34.520 is that she was alone

00:18:35.440 in the park with her child

00:18:36.400 and she was using the swing

00:18:37.580 and the police officer

00:18:39.400 approached her.

00:18:40.640 As a result of the conversation

00:18:42.020 that took place

00:18:43.160 between the police officer

00:18:44.020 and herself,

00:18:45.120 she then was arrested,

00:18:46.180 meaning that she was handcuffed,

00:18:47.820 escorted to a police cruiser.

00:18:49.820 Her coat was searched

00:18:51.260 and her backpack was searched.

00:18:53.620 Now, I think it's important

00:18:54.620 for your viewers to understand

00:18:56.160 that if there was

00:18:58.220 a lawful arrest,

00:18:59.260 and let's assume that

00:18:59.960 for a moment,

00:19:00.700 that the police do have

00:19:01.900 the right to search people

00:19:03.260 incident to arrest.

00:19:05.720 And they have a very limited

00:19:07.220 common law authority

00:19:08.840 to be able to do that.

00:19:10.120 The issue becomes

00:19:10.860 is the provincial legislation

00:19:12.580 certainly gave the police

00:19:14.080 the right,

00:19:14.820 the authority,

00:19:15.860 statutory authority,

00:19:16.940 to be able to ask her

00:19:18.320 what her date of birth is,

00:19:19.680 what her name is

00:19:20.340 and her address.

00:19:21.660 But I'm not so sure

00:19:22.680 the provincial government

00:19:23.900 also enacted

00:19:25.120 companion legislation

00:19:27.180 to give the police

00:19:29.100 the ability

00:19:29.640 to actually arrest her,

00:19:30.960 that is to say

00:19:31.440 to handcuff her, right?

00:19:32.760 Because it was a ticket.

00:19:34.520 And in tickets,

00:19:35.440 there was nothing,

00:19:36.120 nothing that says

00:19:37.000 all they could have

00:19:37.600 simply done

00:19:38.120 was to issue the ticket

00:19:39.820 by simply giving it to her

00:19:41.240 and leaving her alone.

00:19:43.500 In this case,

00:19:44.300 they went further to that.

00:19:45.640 And I think that's

00:19:46.160 the central issue

00:19:47.440 about what happened to her.

00:19:49.520 Well, Sam,

00:19:49.960 I want to thank you so much

00:19:51.060 for taking on Bridget's case.

00:19:52.940 And I want to make it clear

00:19:53.840 once again to our viewers

00:19:54.900 at home that

00:19:55.660 you don't work for us.

00:19:57.160 You work for Bridget

00:19:58.380 and we're simply crowdfunding

00:19:59.860 your legal fees

00:20:00.780 to help Bridget.

00:20:01.760 Bridget told me that,

00:20:02.960 you know,

00:20:03.320 her family doesn't have

00:20:04.180 a lot of money

00:20:04.760 and she,

00:20:05.540 you know,

00:20:05.780 this fine in itself

00:20:08.160 is a lot of money

00:20:09.240 for her family,

00:20:10.220 let alone fighting the fine.

00:20:12.800 Sam,

00:20:13.040 I'm sure we'll talk to you again

00:20:14.140 down the road

00:20:15.360 as Bridget's case progresses.

00:20:17.440 Thank you.

00:20:18.420 Thank you very much.

00:20:19.200 No mom should be cuffed,

00:20:21.980 stuffed in a cop car,

00:20:23.800 berated,

00:20:24.700 fined,

00:20:25.220 and searched

00:20:25.860 in front of their child

00:20:27.320 for the crime

00:20:28.360 of pushing their child

00:20:29.400 on a swing.

00:20:30.060 Pandemic or not,

00:20:30.920 it's outrageous.

00:20:32.020 It's infuriating

00:20:32.860 and traumatic

00:20:33.560 for Bridget,

00:20:34.260 her whole family,

00:20:35.080 and especially

00:20:35.680 her little one.

00:20:36.900 We have to do something

00:20:37.860 to get these municipal governments

00:20:39.320 back in check.

00:20:40.680 They aren't balancing

00:20:41.500 rights versus safety whatsoever.

00:20:43.440 In fact,

00:20:43.900 they are completely

00:20:44.900 out of control.

00:20:46.820 Rebel News

00:20:47.260 is crowdfunding

00:20:47.980 to pay

00:20:48.500 for Bridget's

00:20:49.300 legal bills.

00:20:50.500 You can help us

00:20:51.320 help Bridget

00:20:52.220 at fightthefines.com

00:20:54.280 and if you have

00:20:55.120 received a fine,

00:20:56.060 reach out to us

00:20:56.900 at that same website,

00:20:58.500 fightthefines.com.

00:21:00.100 Maybe we can help you

00:21:01.460 because the Civil Liberty

00:21:02.720 Associations

00:21:03.600 definitely aren't

00:21:05.040 doing anything

00:21:05.700 right now.

00:21:06.220 It's just us,

00:21:07.300 you and Rebel News

00:21:08.340 on the front lines

00:21:09.880 fighting for freedom.

00:21:11.700 For Rebel News,

00:21:12.820 I'm Sheila Gunnery.

00:21:13.880 David Menzies

00:21:14.480 for Rebel News

00:21:15.300 here in Sarnia,

00:21:16.740 Ontario.

00:21:17.440 Well, folks,

00:21:18.060 we continue

00:21:18.900 to fight the fines

00:21:20.580 via our

00:21:21.560 fightthefines.com

00:21:23.160 campaign,

00:21:23.880 and today I'm going

00:21:24.660 to bring you

00:21:24.980 the story

00:21:25.560 of Pat McHenry.

00:21:27.480 This might just be

00:21:29.340 the most egregious

00:21:30.840 and baffling

00:21:32.260 story that we have

00:21:34.000 brought to you

00:21:34.600 so far

00:21:35.100 about a citizen

00:21:37.520 getting an

00:21:38.760 $880 ticket

00:21:40.700 for,

00:21:41.880 well,

00:21:42.100 I don't know

00:21:43.380 what for.

00:21:43.940 Let's talk to

00:21:44.640 Mr. McHenry

00:21:45.420 and find out

00:21:46.860 what happened

00:21:47.780 earlier this month

00:21:48.720 when law enforcement

00:21:50.060 here in Sarnia

00:21:50.900 gave him

00:21:51.620 that big ticket.

00:21:53.640 I brought her

00:21:54.540 out to do her

00:21:55.160 business,

00:21:55.940 and I was out

00:21:57.000 here maybe

00:21:57.520 five minutes,

00:21:58.340 six minutes.

00:21:59.360 I came back

00:22:00.440 to the back door.

00:22:01.840 I don't use

00:22:02.560 the elevator

00:22:03.120 because I don't

00:22:03.680 want to run

00:22:04.440 into any people

00:22:05.360 to the third floor,

00:22:06.900 and I got

00:22:08.100 to the third door.

00:22:09.100 There were two

00:22:09.560 policemen standing

00:22:10.480 in front of my

00:22:11.160 apartment.

00:22:11.600 with Max's son

00:22:13.180 like yourself,

00:22:14.200 and they had

00:22:15.560 the ticket

00:22:16.640 already made out.

00:22:17.700 They whipped it

00:22:18.200 out like Matt

00:22:18.880 Dillon

00:22:19.160 and handed it

00:22:19.980 to me.

00:22:21.820 $880.

00:22:24.500 I was just

00:22:25.540 outraged.

00:22:26.540 I didn't go

00:22:27.160 downtown Walmart.

00:22:28.320 I didn't go

00:22:28.820 downtown Sarnia.

00:22:29.880 I didn't go

00:22:30.440 anywhere.

00:22:30.940 Just out here

00:22:31.540 to this parking

00:22:32.200 lot to let my

00:22:33.520 dog do her

00:22:34.400 business.

00:22:34.980 As a matter of

00:22:35.460 fact,

00:22:35.740 if you and I

00:22:36.320 were to go

00:22:36.720 in the back

00:22:37.200 door right now,

00:22:38.020 and we walk

00:22:39.460 up to the

00:22:39.920 third floor,

00:22:40.940 I can guarantee

00:22:42.100 you we won't

00:22:42.780 run into anybody

00:22:43.560 because they

00:22:44.160 want to use

00:22:44.680 the elevator

00:22:45.240 and I don't

00:22:45.720 use the elevator

00:22:46.540 just for the

00:22:47.520 specific purpose

00:22:48.600 of not running

00:22:49.320 into anybody.

00:22:50.220 So in other

00:22:50.560 words,

00:22:50.980 you're by

00:22:51.600 yourself

00:22:52.240 with the

00:22:54.360 little dog.

00:22:55.120 You don't

00:22:55.500 run into

00:22:55.980 anybody here

00:22:57.060 in the parking

00:22:57.900 lot nor in

00:22:58.720 the stairwells.

00:22:59.620 Nobody.

00:23:00.360 So,

00:23:01.740 Pat,

00:23:02.340 the question

00:23:03.120 arises,

00:23:04.060 what was the

00:23:05.780 crime?

00:23:09.040 I just

00:23:09.840 think that

00:23:10.320 it's the

00:23:10.800 heavy hand

00:23:11.560 of,

00:23:13.720 especially

00:23:14.280 our mayor

00:23:15.040 here,

00:23:15.620 our left

00:23:16.240 wing mayor

00:23:17.260 here in

00:23:17.760 Sarnia,

00:23:18.220 who's a

00:23:18.700 complete lunatic

00:23:19.760 as far as

00:23:20.320 I'm concerned,

00:23:21.520 pushing this

00:23:22.520 hysteria

00:23:24.920 all over the

00:23:26.280 place,

00:23:26.640 all over our

00:23:27.280 country.

00:23:27.700 You can go to

00:23:28.260 Walmart here

00:23:28.980 in Sarnia

00:23:29.480 right now.

00:23:30.040 I've been

00:23:30.340 there three

00:23:30.780 times.

00:23:31.660 You go in

00:23:32.180 there,

00:23:32.460 there's lots

00:23:32.900 of people

00:23:33.280 in there.

00:23:33.760 They're trying

00:23:34.140 to practice

00:23:34.660 social distancing

00:23:35.700 but if they

00:23:36.640 can do it

00:23:37.100 there,

00:23:37.380 they should

00:23:37.620 be able to

00:23:38.080 do it

00:23:38.340 in every

00:23:38.660 business

00:23:39.040 in Canada.

00:23:39.760 I mean,

00:23:40.020 what is

00:23:40.320 that crap?

00:23:41.060 They got

00:23:41.300 the whole

00:23:41.720 damn place

00:23:42.520 shut down.

00:23:43.820 And Pat,

00:23:44.400 it should be

00:23:44.820 noted that

00:23:45.480 you returned

00:23:46.740 from a vacation

00:23:47.500 in Mexico

00:23:48.160 in March.

00:23:49.740 You went

00:23:50.280 into quarantine.

00:23:51.120 When did

00:23:51.480 the quarantine

00:23:51.940 period end

00:23:52.800 exactly?

00:23:54.260 I got

00:23:55.160 back on

00:23:55.680 the 25th

00:23:57.120 of March.

00:23:58.660 Two days

00:23:59.320 before the

00:23:59.940 quarantine

00:24:00.340 was up,

00:24:01.540 I got the

00:24:02.040 ticket.

00:24:03.180 But even

00:24:04.180 as I understand

00:24:04.940 it,

00:24:05.140 even under

00:24:05.660 the rules

00:24:06.200 of quarantining,

00:24:07.780 you're allowed

00:24:08.900 to go into

00:24:10.540 your backyard.

00:24:12.600 This is

00:24:13.180 essentially your

00:24:13.860 backyard because

00:24:14.480 you live in a

00:24:15.320 high-rise apartment

00:24:16.300 building.

00:24:16.820 It's right there.

00:24:17.460 Yes,

00:24:17.700 yes.

00:24:18.200 I consider this

00:24:19.300 my backyard.

00:24:20.700 It's just for

00:24:21.680 the tenants only.

00:24:23.180 And I'm not the

00:24:24.100 only person here

00:24:24.900 that has a little

00:24:25.600 dog.

00:24:26.800 There are other

00:24:27.420 people with dogs

00:24:28.220 but they usually

00:24:29.040 use the front.

00:24:30.000 I haven't seen

00:24:30.600 anybody at the back.

00:24:31.440 Oh,

00:24:31.680 a couple times

00:24:32.720 I've run into

00:24:33.320 people out here

00:24:34.040 at the back

00:24:34.480 but usually

00:24:35.400 they don't

00:24:35.800 come to the

00:24:36.320 back.

00:24:36.600 They go to

00:24:36.960 the front

00:24:37.340 out there.

00:24:38.100 Well,

00:24:38.240 Pat,

00:24:38.620 we certainly

00:24:39.060 don't want

00:24:39.680 an honest,

00:24:40.540 hard-working,

00:24:41.320 tax-paying

00:24:42.300 citizen like

00:24:43.040 you to go to

00:24:43.540 jail,

00:24:44.020 which is why

00:24:44.520 we've reached out.

00:24:45.100 I'm 72 years

00:24:46.280 old.

00:24:46.600 If they want to

00:24:47.080 throw me in

00:24:47.580 jail,

00:24:47.860 so be it.

00:24:49.020 Well,

00:24:50.120 let's not go

00:24:51.580 there.

00:24:52.040 We have reached

00:24:52.860 out,

00:24:53.200 of course,

00:24:53.480 to our audience

00:24:54.340 to crowdfund

00:24:55.440 cases like yours

00:24:57.020 through our

00:24:57.500 fightthefines.com

00:24:59.280 website.

00:25:00.600 I want to

00:25:01.280 thank you for

00:25:01.860 making time

00:25:02.560 to speak with

00:25:03.280 me.

00:25:03.980 Like I said,

00:25:05.040 we're reaching

00:25:05.580 out to our

00:25:06.280 beloved viewers

00:25:07.000 to crowdfund

00:25:08.080 your case.

00:25:09.080 Sam Goldstein

00:25:09.840 is a brilliant

00:25:10.860 criminal lawyer

00:25:11.920 based in Toronto.

00:25:12.820 I appreciate it.

00:25:13.820 I appreciate it

00:25:15.240 just for the

00:25:15.740 simple fact that

00:25:16.480 I can't afford

00:25:18.020 to have a lawyer

00:25:18.600 but if I had

00:25:20.160 to go to court

00:25:20.780 by myself,

00:25:21.680 I'd still take

00:25:22.560 them on.

00:25:23.100 I might end

00:25:23.620 up in jail

00:25:24.660 for contempt

00:25:25.340 for the way

00:25:26.820 I talk or

00:25:27.420 something but

00:25:27.820 I'll tell you

00:25:28.320 what,

00:25:28.680 I just think

00:25:30.160 this is dead

00:25:30.720 wrong and

00:25:31.560 I would tell

00:25:32.060 any judge,

00:25:32.660 I don't care

00:25:33.100 who the judge

00:25:33.940 is,

00:25:34.900 that this is

00:25:36.020 just stupid.

00:25:37.700 David Menzies

00:25:38.360 for Rebel News

00:25:39.240 here in

00:25:40.020 Sarnia,

00:25:40.600 Ontario.

00:25:41.220 Well,

00:25:41.500 I'm back

00:25:42.740 here to

00:25:43.320 update the

00:25:43.920 story of

00:25:44.600 Pat McHenry.

00:25:45.540 He is the

00:25:46.080 retired carpenter

00:25:47.120 that was given

00:25:48.440 one of those

00:25:49.140 $880

00:25:50.620 tickets for

00:25:53.040 allegedly not

00:25:54.460 following the

00:25:55.520 coronavirus

00:25:56.200 safety protocols.

00:25:58.220 Well,

00:25:58.460 folks,

00:25:58.900 riddle me

00:25:59.220 this.

00:25:59.900 When is

00:26:00.580 good news

00:26:01.440 actually bad

00:26:03.160 news?

00:26:04.360 Well,

00:26:05.220 it's when

00:26:05.640 good news

00:26:06.380 is delivered

00:26:07.320 by the people

00:26:08.440 that occupy

00:26:08.960 this building.

00:26:09.800 This is

00:26:10.160 Sarnia Police

00:26:11.160 Headquarters.

00:26:12.240 The day after

00:26:13.080 I interviewed

00:26:13.980 Mr. McHenry,

00:26:15.220 they returned

00:26:15.860 to his apartment

00:26:16.620 and folks,

00:26:18.640 you are not

00:26:19.420 going to believe

00:26:20.040 this story.

00:26:21.580 All right,

00:26:22.080 so Pat,

00:26:22.940 you and I

00:26:24.040 met for the

00:26:24.520 first time

00:26:25.120 on Wednesday.

00:26:27.040 We had the

00:26:27.880 interview of

00:26:28.820 you getting

00:26:29.400 that $880

00:26:30.640 ticket and

00:26:31.360 our viewers

00:26:31.780 can go to

00:26:32.940 my original

00:26:33.580 report and

00:26:34.260 get all the

00:26:34.700 details there.

00:26:36.160 But the

00:26:36.820 nub of the

00:26:37.720 matter was

00:26:38.360 you walked

00:26:39.700 your little

00:26:40.280 dog,

00:26:41.000 Molly,

00:26:41.640 out to

00:26:42.120 the parking

00:26:43.380 lot,

00:26:43.720 the deserted

00:26:44.180 parking lot

00:26:44.840 of your

00:26:45.200 apartment building.

00:26:46.060 You even

00:26:46.480 took the

00:26:46.940 stairwells

00:26:47.620 to avoid

00:26:48.140 any contact

00:26:49.080 whatsoever

00:26:49.620 with people

00:26:50.740 because they

00:26:52.260 typically take

00:26:53.020 the elevator

00:26:53.540 at your

00:26:54.040 apartment building

00:26:55.060 and when

00:26:55.800 you returned

00:26:56.240 to your

00:26:56.540 unit,

00:26:57.360 two Sarnia

00:26:57.980 constables

00:26:58.620 were there

00:26:59.100 and they

00:26:59.960 slapped you

00:27:00.480 with an

00:27:00.880 $880

00:27:01.880 fine.

00:27:03.620 Then,

00:27:04.080 the day

00:27:04.820 after we

00:27:05.900 talked,

00:27:06.840 the police

00:27:07.580 returned to

00:27:08.380 your apartment.

00:27:09.080 This would be

00:27:09.460 Thursday morning

00:27:10.280 and do tell

00:27:11.840 what happened.

00:27:12.940 I had a

00:27:13.640 knock on my

00:27:14.220 door.

00:27:15.160 It was a

00:27:15.660 very loud

00:27:16.300 knock and

00:27:17.920 I knew

00:27:18.540 intuitively

00:27:19.360 that it

00:27:20.200 was the

00:27:20.520 police

00:27:20.840 because nobody

00:27:21.560 knocks on

00:27:22.080 your door

00:27:22.420 that loud.

00:27:23.340 So,

00:27:23.620 anyway,

00:27:24.020 I opened

00:27:24.440 the door

00:27:24.860 and there

00:27:25.120 are two

00:27:25.440 policemen

00:27:25.980 there.

00:27:27.020 And,

00:27:28.220 first,

00:27:28.780 I got,

00:27:29.380 I says,

00:27:29.820 hold it.

00:27:30.360 I don't want

00:27:30.860 to talk to

00:27:31.360 you guys.

00:27:31.780 I want to

00:27:32.040 talk to my

00:27:32.540 lawyer.

00:27:32.920 He says,

00:27:33.180 no,

00:27:33.380 no,

00:27:33.560 no.

00:27:33.780 He says,

00:27:34.080 I've got

00:27:34.380 good news

00:27:34.880 for you.

00:27:35.600 He says,

00:27:35.980 the original

00:27:36.640 ticket that

00:27:37.240 you got

00:27:37.620 for,

00:27:38.460 we're going

00:27:39.220 to drop

00:27:39.840 it.

00:27:40.920 So,

00:27:41.420 I'm

00:27:41.740 thinking to

00:27:42.240 myself,

00:27:42.760 well,

00:27:43.020 then,

00:27:43.260 that is

00:27:43.660 good news.

00:27:44.300 Maybe

00:27:44.500 they've

00:27:44.800 come to

00:27:45.120 their

00:27:45.320 census.

00:27:47.020 Then,

00:27:47.440 he hands

00:27:47.860 me another

00:27:48.440 ticket for

00:27:49.800 the total

00:27:50.320 sum of

00:27:51.200 $1,255.

00:27:54.180 More money

00:27:55.040 than the

00:27:55.440 original ticket

00:27:56.300 just because

00:27:57.080 you showed

00:27:57.820 up in

00:27:58.180 Sarnia to

00:27:58.760 interview me.

00:27:59.740 It's the

00:28:00.180 most vindictiveness

00:28:01.180 I've ever

00:28:02.140 seen and

00:28:03.120 very dishonest

00:28:04.460 for the

00:28:05.140 police to

00:28:05.580 say,

00:28:06.160 talk about

00:28:06.920 good news.

00:28:07.520 There's no

00:28:07.840 good news

00:28:08.420 here.

00:28:08.660 Where's the

00:28:08.960 good news?

00:28:09.840 And,

00:28:10.280 you know,

00:28:10.740 Pat,

00:28:11.560 those are the

00:28:12.160 words he said.

00:28:12.940 We have

00:28:13.240 good news

00:28:13.860 for you.

00:28:14.480 And,

00:28:14.980 obviously,

00:28:15.600 it was

00:28:15.880 facetious.

00:28:16.580 It was

00:28:16.780 sarcastic because

00:28:18.220 he was

00:28:18.720 actually there

00:28:19.640 to give you

00:28:20.360 a ticket that

00:28:21.060 was almost

00:28:21.660 50% more

00:28:23.040 than the

00:28:23.380 original ticket.

00:28:24.120 Exactly.

00:28:24.780 Exactly.

00:28:25.580 I mean,

00:28:25.880 this is just

00:28:26.500 crazy.

00:28:28.060 I don't

00:28:28.800 understand it.

00:28:29.580 I just

00:28:29.900 don't.

00:28:30.520 And,

00:28:30.860 my friends

00:28:31.480 don't understand

00:28:32.260 it.

00:28:32.500 Nobody does.

00:28:33.820 This is just

00:28:34.760 complete madness.

00:28:36.720 You see,

00:28:37.320 Pat,

00:28:38.000 I don't

00:28:38.480 understand it

00:28:39.160 either.

00:28:39.880 I've reached

00:28:40.580 out on several

00:28:41.320 occasions to the

00:28:42.180 Sarnia police,

00:28:42.860 even their

00:28:43.320 media relations

00:28:44.160 officer.

00:28:45.000 They won't

00:28:45.480 return my

00:28:46.420 emails.

00:28:47.160 That's because

00:28:47.660 you're from

00:28:48.400 Rebel News.

00:28:49.980 Now,

00:28:50.440 if you were

00:28:50.900 from the

00:28:51.240 CBC or

00:28:52.860 the Toronto

00:28:53.800 Star,

00:28:54.700 Bruce Jenner

00:28:56.360 couldn't beat

00:28:57.020 them out here.

00:28:58.040 Okay?

00:28:59.680 Yeah,

00:29:00.260 but that's the

00:29:01.080 catch-22.

00:29:02.160 I don't think

00:29:02.660 any reporter

00:29:03.300 at the Toronto

00:29:04.320 Star or CBC

00:29:05.380 is interested

00:29:06.240 in your story,

00:29:07.020 and certainly

00:29:07.500 we are.

00:29:08.420 But here's the

00:29:09.060 thing.

00:29:09.400 I'm not

00:29:10.380 saying this

00:29:10.840 is what

00:29:11.100 happened,

00:29:11.880 but my

00:29:12.460 thinking,

00:29:13.720 Pat,

00:29:14.120 is that

00:29:14.760 they took

00:29:15.920 umbrage to

00:29:16.680 this.

00:29:17.020 They said,

00:29:17.720 oh,

00:29:18.460 Mr. McHenry

00:29:19.120 wants to

00:29:19.540 play hardball,

00:29:20.260 does he?

00:29:20.540 He wants to

00:29:21.180 embarrass us

00:29:21.920 in the media.

00:29:23.100 We'll show

00:29:23.760 him.

00:29:24.520 That's the only

00:29:25.240 theory I have

00:29:26.160 for this.

00:29:26.900 And I don't

00:29:27.440 think a judge

00:29:28.320 is going to

00:29:29.200 look kindly at

00:29:30.060 this treatment

00:29:30.560 of you.

00:29:30.940 I don't think

00:29:31.140 they will

00:29:31.500 neither.

00:29:32.240 No magistrate

00:29:33.780 on any court

00:29:34.500 could see the

00:29:35.860 justification in

00:29:37.200 this.

00:29:37.620 This is just

00:29:38.580 crazy.

00:29:39.440 I'm not one

00:29:40.040 of the

00:29:40.280 Rockefellers.

00:29:41.200 Okay.

00:29:41.640 I'm just

00:29:42.060 an ordinary

00:29:42.940 guy.

00:29:43.560 I get my

00:29:44.360 pension and

00:29:44.880 that's it.

00:29:45.460 You know,

00:29:45.640 I'm not poor,

00:29:46.560 I'm not rich,

00:29:47.960 but I certainly

00:29:50.180 don't have money

00:29:50.800 for that kind

00:29:51.320 of a thing.

00:29:52.340 Well, you know,

00:29:52.800 Pat, hopefully

00:29:53.920 after this video

00:29:55.240 airs, you don't

00:29:56.240 get a knock in

00:29:57.280 the early hours

00:29:58.000 of the morning

00:29:58.440 with some more

00:29:59.120 Sarnia police

00:30:00.020 to give you

00:30:00.380 an even bigger

00:30:01.020 fight.

00:30:02.140 Seeing how

00:30:02.820 this is Sarnia,

00:30:03.460 I wouldn't be a

00:30:04.100 bit surprised if

00:30:04.860 they're knocking

00:30:05.420 at my door

00:30:06.000 tomorrow morning.

00:30:06.700 The only thing

00:30:07.200 is I will not

00:30:08.000 answer it.

00:30:08.520 I want to

00:30:08.900 introduce you

00:30:09.480 to Walter

00:30:10.360 Matheson from

00:30:11.260 New Brunswick.

00:30:11.900 He received a

00:30:12.600 nearly $300

00:30:13.380 ticket.

00:30:14.640 His crime?

00:30:15.980 Sitting alone

00:30:16.900 in his car

00:30:18.280 in a Tim Hortons

00:30:19.660 parking lot while

00:30:20.500 he finished his

00:30:21.280 muffin and coffee

00:30:22.100 before carrying

00:30:23.020 on his day

00:30:23.760 for failure to

00:30:25.160 comply with the

00:30:25.920 direction of

00:30:26.680 emergency measures.

00:30:28.420 But Walter is

00:30:29.720 obviously a quick

00:30:30.720 thinker because he

00:30:31.580 did something many

00:30:32.440 journalists wouldn't

00:30:33.260 think to do,

00:30:33.840 let alone normal

00:30:34.580 people just

00:30:35.080 minding their

00:30:35.600 own business

00:30:36.040 trying to wash

00:30:36.620 down a muffin

00:30:37.320 with a double

00:30:38.560 double in a

00:30:39.280 parking lot

00:30:39.880 completely alone

00:30:40.740 in one's own

00:30:41.380 car.

00:30:42.120 Walter started

00:30:43.300 recording the

00:30:44.220 audio on his

00:30:45.140 phone.

00:30:46.040 So while we

00:30:46.380 don't have a

00:30:46.840 video of what

00:30:47.580 happened to

00:30:48.060 Walter, we do

00:30:48.740 have the audio

00:30:49.480 of his interaction

00:30:50.660 with the police

00:30:51.300 officer.

00:30:52.160 There's a lot of

00:30:52.980 dead air as

00:30:53.680 Walter politely

00:30:54.400 waits for the

00:30:55.080 cop to ticket him

00:30:55.780 so we just cut

00:30:56.720 that out for

00:30:57.660 brevity.

00:30:58.160 But you can hear

00:30:58.720 for yourself.

00:30:59.820 Walter isn't

00:31:00.340 rude.

00:31:00.700 He actually jokes

00:31:01.460 with the cop and

00:31:02.660 the cop goes from

00:31:03.460 jovial to angry

00:31:04.920 nearly immediately

00:31:06.040 with Walter the

00:31:07.240 moment Walter

00:31:08.180 wanted just a

00:31:09.320 little bit of

00:31:09.820 clarity from him.

00:31:10.920 Just listen.

00:31:12.140 How you doing?

00:31:13.060 Not too bad.

00:31:14.220 Good.

00:31:15.000 Good.

00:31:15.660 Tim Hortons has

00:31:16.200 asked me to move

00:31:16.760 people from the

00:31:17.320 parking lot here.

00:31:18.280 Really?

00:31:18.920 I know you're by

00:31:19.820 yourself and all that

00:31:20.440 but what it does is

00:31:21.220 it's letting the teens

00:31:22.040 see what happens and

00:31:23.200 then they all start

00:31:23.860 hanging out here

00:31:24.380 later on.

00:31:25.080 No, I don't believe

00:31:25.640 that.

00:31:25.780 Pardon me?

00:31:26.520 I don't believe

00:31:27.000 that.

00:31:27.620 You don't believe

00:31:28.040 the teens will do

00:31:28.580 that?

00:31:30.000 That's their opinion.

00:31:31.300 No, that's true

00:31:31.940 but they have asked

00:31:32.740 and it is up to

00:31:33.320 them to do it.

00:31:33.900 This country is

00:31:34.580 still a free country.

00:31:35.740 Okay, if you don't

00:31:36.240 move I'm going to

00:31:36.620 give you a $292

00:31:37.400 ticket.

00:31:37.880 Is that right?

00:31:38.460 Yes.

00:31:38.800 For doing what?

00:31:40.160 For not moving in

00:31:41.140 compliance to what

00:31:41.660 I'm saying.

00:31:42.340 I'm trying to be

00:31:42.740 nice to you.

00:31:43.200 That's not a law.

00:31:43.780 License please.

00:31:46.240 License please.

00:31:46.840 No, I'll hold you.

00:31:47.940 Then leave.

00:31:48.580 Now.

00:31:49.080 Okay.

00:31:49.720 I was nice to you.

00:31:50.640 I gave you a chance.

00:31:51.660 Get out.

00:31:52.800 If I catch you back here

00:31:53.780 it will be a $292 ticket.

00:31:55.280 What's your name sir?

00:31:55.920 Constable John Thompson.

00:31:56.940 Okay, thank you John.

00:31:58.160 Okay.

00:31:58.860 I would still like to

00:31:59.460 see your driver's

00:31:59.940 license though.

00:32:00.680 Well, I'm okay.

00:32:01.600 No, I would like

00:32:02.240 to see it sir.

00:32:03.760 Stop right there.

00:32:05.980 Driver's license.

00:32:07.240 Just a minute

00:32:07.640 I'll back up.

00:32:08.680 Doesn't matter

00:32:09.160 you don't have to.

00:32:09.700 You can stop

00:32:09.960 right where you are.

00:32:11.340 How long is this

00:32:12.120 going to go on?

00:32:12.960 I have no idea.

00:32:14.160 No idea.

00:32:15.620 I don't like it

00:32:16.300 any more than you do

00:32:17.000 but I'm doing a job.

00:32:18.140 I'll be right back.

00:32:20.480 Okay sir,

00:32:21.000 I was nice to you.

00:32:21.760 I asked you to leave.

00:32:22.860 You gave me a hard time

00:32:23.720 so now you're getting

00:32:24.460 a ticket under the

00:32:25.480 failure to comply

00:32:26.320 with the directions

00:32:26.860 of the Emergency Measures Act.

00:32:28.140 Yes, you did sir.

00:32:28.960 Okay.

00:32:29.660 You didn't want to leave.

00:32:30.660 Don't try arguing now

00:32:31.380 if you want to take it up

00:32:32.000 with something

00:32:32.180 you can take it up

00:32:32.600 with the sergeant

00:32:33.080 at the office.

00:32:34.220 I'm not dealing with you

00:32:35.160 or you can go to court

00:32:35.960 and you can contest it.

00:32:37.260 Okay.

00:32:37.500 When the court takes...

00:32:38.120 $292.50.

00:32:39.760 You can pay it

00:32:40.180 at any service

00:32:40.660 in New Brunswick

00:32:41.080 you can pay it online.

00:32:42.260 Oh, I'm not going to pay it.

00:32:43.280 Do you want it on court?

00:32:44.000 Do you want to go to court

00:32:44.700 in English or in French?

00:32:46.260 I'm English.

00:32:47.160 Do you want it in English?

00:32:48.320 Of course I do.

00:32:49.440 Okay.

00:32:50.760 You have your driver's license back.

00:32:52.060 Thank you very much.

00:32:52.620 I'm going to get you

00:32:52.920 to sign here.

00:32:53.440 It's not admitting guilt.

00:32:54.320 Just I've explained it to you.

00:32:55.140 I'm not going to sign it, sir.

00:32:56.520 Refuse to sign.

00:32:57.480 It still stands

00:32:58.260 even if you don't sign.

00:32:59.500 I don't.

00:32:59.980 Okay.

00:33:00.920 If you come back here

00:33:02.080 you will now be trespassing.

00:33:04.180 Excuse me?

00:33:04.980 If you come back

00:33:05.680 you will now be trespassing.

00:33:07.200 Does that include

00:33:07.960 every Tim Hortons in town?

00:33:09.180 No, that's just one

00:33:09.920 here in Hampton.

00:33:10.640 That's this one.

00:33:11.380 Just this one.

00:33:12.000 So if you come back

00:33:12.640 you're trespassing.

00:33:13.900 There's your ticket.

00:33:15.100 Leave the parking lot now, sir.

00:33:16.460 Let's get another one.

00:33:17.160 Next one goes up to $1,000.

00:33:19.080 Really?

00:33:19.800 Yes.

00:33:20.380 You can get up to $10,000.

00:33:21.860 How many have you given out today?

00:33:23.260 You're the first.

00:33:24.720 Well, I feel so good about that.

00:33:26.580 You're lucky.

00:33:26.940 You're the first.

00:33:27.420 You're the first out

00:33:28.000 for what's happening.

00:33:29.220 Thank you very much.

00:33:31.820 Okay.

00:33:32.340 Let's sum up what we heard there.

00:33:33.520 The cop asked Walter to leave.

00:33:35.120 Walter wonders why.

00:33:36.380 So the cop gets mad really fast.

00:33:39.540 And so Walter tried to do

00:33:41.220 what the cop asked him to do

00:33:42.460 and leave.

00:33:43.080 And then the cop stops Walter

00:33:44.300 from leaving

00:33:44.820 and then tickets him

00:33:46.260 for not leaving

00:33:47.000 when the police ask him to.

00:33:48.900 And why?

00:33:49.720 What was the reason why?

00:33:51.140 Because an older man

00:33:52.440 eating a muffin alone

00:33:53.500 might attract teenagers

00:33:54.660 to the Tim Hortons parking lot?

00:33:56.660 Has this cop ever met

00:33:58.020 a teenager before?

00:33:59.320 Now, I talked to Walter

00:34:00.320 a couple of days ago

00:34:01.240 on Skype

00:34:01.760 because his story

00:34:02.460 is just so weird

00:34:03.360 and crazy.

00:34:04.940 Just watch.

00:34:05.580 Well, I think I was there

00:34:07.700 about, oh, maybe

00:34:08.660 five to ten minutes

00:34:10.500 and they never told me

00:34:14.540 when I went through

00:34:15.060 the drive-thru

00:34:15.660 that I could only

00:34:16.920 get my coffee

00:34:18.260 and then leave.

00:34:19.120 So, of course,

00:34:20.120 I always parked

00:34:21.280 in the parking lot,

00:34:22.720 drink my coffee,

00:34:24.480 eat my muffin

00:34:25.160 and then leave.

00:34:26.840 That's what I always do.

00:34:28.000 So I didn't see

00:34:29.440 anything unusual.

00:34:30.460 There was no sign

00:34:31.440 saying no loitering

00:34:33.180 or anything like that.

00:34:34.840 So I was quite surprised

00:34:36.360 when this happened.

00:34:38.380 Do you know

00:34:39.080 who called the cops on you?

00:34:41.940 I don't know

00:34:42.740 if they called them on me

00:34:43.920 but the police themselves,

00:34:46.020 the police officer there

00:34:47.200 told me that

00:34:47.920 Tim Hortons had called them

00:34:49.880 and the reason was

00:34:53.080 that myself

00:34:55.760 and the other people

00:34:56.880 that were in the parking lot

00:34:57.960 parked there,

00:34:58.540 there was probably

00:34:59.000 five or six cars,

00:35:01.040 would attract teenagers.

00:35:02.820 Now, I don't know

00:35:03.600 if they have some kind

00:35:04.420 of a problem

00:35:04.920 with teenagers there.

00:35:06.080 I haven't heard that.

00:35:07.560 You started recording

00:35:09.040 your interaction

00:35:10.040 with the police officer

00:35:12.020 which I think

00:35:13.100 is fascinating

00:35:13.980 for me as a journalist

00:35:15.080 because I know

00:35:15.660 some journalists

00:35:16.760 who wouldn't do that.

00:35:18.720 What made you

00:35:19.180 start recording?

00:35:20.980 Well, I've had experiences

00:35:23.220 in the past

00:35:23.900 where police officers

00:35:24.740 have actually lied

00:35:26.280 about what happened

00:35:27.080 or our interactions.

00:35:29.240 So I said,

00:35:29.900 well, it isn't going

00:35:31.180 to hurt to record this.

00:35:32.820 And then I have

00:35:33.620 my side of it

00:35:34.260 and his side of it.

00:35:35.000 I tried to be as calm

00:35:37.120 as I could there

00:35:37.840 with him

00:35:38.240 and I didn't use

00:35:40.320 any swear words

00:35:41.100 or anything like that.

00:35:42.700 And so I just said,

00:35:45.360 well, I'll turn it on there.

00:35:46.420 This should be interesting.

00:35:47.460 I'll show my wife

00:35:48.880 when I get home there

00:35:49.700 what happened.

00:35:50.280 The police officer

00:35:52.860 shows up at your window,

00:35:54.960 I suppose,

00:35:55.860 and you can tell you

00:35:57.560 he's not angry with you.

00:36:00.140 You're not disrespectful to him.

00:36:02.680 But once you question

00:36:04.460 this $292 ticket

00:36:07.320 that he's threatening you with

00:36:08.780 unless you leave,

00:36:10.780 things get pretty heated

00:36:12.200 pretty fast

00:36:12.860 and the cop goes

00:36:13.680 from zero to 60.

00:36:14.740 He goes from happy

00:36:16.260 to very angry

00:36:18.100 and very aggressive

00:36:19.760 with you.

00:36:21.120 Yes.

00:36:21.560 It's almost like

00:36:22.500 the excuse he gave me

00:36:24.460 wasn't actually the truth

00:36:25.980 and maybe he was

00:36:28.020 upset about that

00:36:29.860 that it really

00:36:30.460 Tim Hortons didn't call him

00:36:31.840 or something like that.

00:36:32.720 I don't know.

00:36:33.540 Even if he had come over

00:36:34.440 and said,

00:36:35.800 do you mind finishing

00:36:37.020 your coffee

00:36:37.580 and your muffin

00:36:38.060 and leaving?

00:36:38.920 I would have said,

00:36:39.640 that's what I always do.

00:36:40.660 I would have left.

00:36:41.960 But I don't believe

00:36:43.220 that I did anything wrong.

00:36:44.980 I don't think I deserved

00:36:46.340 a $292 ticket.

00:36:48.800 No.

00:36:49.880 But I certainly

00:36:51.240 still think

00:36:53.280 it's a free country.

00:36:54.120 I should have been able

00:36:54.680 to sit there

00:36:55.120 and have a coffee

00:36:55.880 and my donut.

00:36:58.400 You know, Walter,

00:36:59.520 I think that you're right.

00:37:01.280 I think this is still

00:37:02.320 a free country.

00:37:02.960 I don't think

00:37:03.860 you deserve that ticket.

00:37:05.720 I think that

00:37:06.860 our viewers at home

00:37:07.920 will probably feel

00:37:09.160 much the same way

00:37:10.300 and that's why

00:37:11.260 we are going to

00:37:12.320 help you fight

00:37:13.260 this ticket.

00:37:14.140 We've already put you

00:37:15.300 in touch with our

00:37:16.520 ace lawyer,

00:37:18.700 Sam Goldstein.

00:37:19.760 You've already

00:37:20.220 spoken to him.

00:37:21.200 He's your lawyer.

00:37:22.520 He works for you.

00:37:23.480 He doesn't work for us.

00:37:24.800 And we're excited

00:37:25.720 to help you fight

00:37:26.660 because, you know,

00:37:27.740 it's very clear.

00:37:28.700 You were minding

00:37:29.240 your own business,

00:37:30.020 eating a muffin

00:37:30.800 and for that

00:37:31.480 you got a $292.

00:37:32.960 taller ticket,

00:37:34.080 which we think

00:37:34.600 is absolutely

00:37:35.840 outrageous.

00:37:37.100 And I think

00:37:37.840 Canadians are going

00:37:38.800 to feel that way

00:37:39.360 too, Walter.

00:37:40.720 Well, thanks again.

00:37:42.540 I appreciate everything

00:37:43.700 you, Rebel News,

00:37:44.860 is doing.

00:37:45.900 I think this is great.

00:37:46.860 I wish we had more

00:37:48.040 channels like you

00:37:49.400 or yourselves.

00:37:51.140 And thank you

00:37:51.860 very much.

00:37:52.380 We immediately

00:37:53.620 at Rebel News

00:37:54.520 jumped in to help

00:37:55.180 Walter.

00:37:55.760 With your help,

00:37:56.600 we hired Walter,

00:37:57.360 one of the best

00:37:58.300 lawyers in the country,

00:37:59.260 Sam Goldstein.

00:37:59.920 He's a bencher

00:38:00.640 with the Law Society

00:38:02.100 of Ontario.

00:38:03.600 Sam Goldstein

00:38:04.680 was going to help

00:38:05.660 Walter challenge

00:38:06.740 that ticket.

00:38:08.080 Now, the story,

00:38:09.320 it's already crazy,

00:38:10.540 but it gets even

00:38:11.120 crazier.

00:38:12.020 The cop who got

00:38:13.340 vulgar with Walter

00:38:14.340 and tried to bully him

00:38:15.120 then tried to bully me.

00:38:16.880 That cop hired a lawyer

00:38:18.300 named Carly Parrish

00:38:19.240 to send a letter

00:38:19.800 to my boss

00:38:20.740 at Rebel News

00:38:21.340 telling us to

00:38:22.020 take down our video

00:38:23.140 accusing me,

00:38:24.580 I think,

00:38:25.260 she wasn't all that clear,

00:38:26.840 of defaming

00:38:27.720 the RCMP officer

00:38:29.040 who I didn't actually

00:38:30.360 name in my video

00:38:31.280 not even once

00:38:32.120 by publishing

00:38:33.400 the audio

00:38:34.220 Walter recorded

00:38:35.480 that she also

00:38:36.940 strangely accused

00:38:38.140 me of recording.

00:38:39.740 And finally,

00:38:41.140 Carly Parrish

00:38:41.880 demanded that I

00:38:42.680 turn my recording

00:38:43.640 over to the RCMP

00:38:44.600 detachment

00:38:45.160 communist style.

00:38:46.900 It was insane

00:38:48.020 and of course,

00:38:48.900 I didn't comply

00:38:49.700 because this is

00:38:50.340 a free country

00:38:50.940 and journalism

00:38:51.560 isn't illegal.

00:38:52.540 I mean, seriously,

00:38:53.880 you can't bully me.

00:38:55.400 I work for Rebel News.

00:38:57.100 Again, you can see

00:38:58.080 the video that I did

00:38:59.340 about that weird vignette

00:39:01.100 in this whole weird saga

00:39:02.440 and read the utterly

00:39:03.700 bizarre letter

00:39:04.560 Parrish sent me

00:39:05.400 at fightthefines.com.

00:39:07.800 Now, I think in all

00:39:08.780 the videos that we did

00:39:10.080 about the tribulations

00:39:11.000 of poor Walter Matheson

00:39:12.800 have close to

00:39:13.560 a million views

00:39:15.280 combined.

00:39:17.120 But, friends,

00:39:18.380 this thing gets

00:39:19.260 even weirder.

00:39:20.560 Now we're on a

00:39:21.440 side road here.

00:39:22.260 That inept lawyer,

00:39:23.360 Carly Parrish,

00:39:24.180 just ran for the

00:39:25.440 Liberals in New

00:39:26.120 Brunswick in their

00:39:26.820 provincial election

00:39:27.700 and lost in an

00:39:28.820 epic, epic way

00:39:30.240 just a couple of

00:39:30.920 days ago,

00:39:31.440 barely wrangling up

00:39:32.360 over a thousand

00:39:32.980 votes.

00:39:34.020 I guess unconstitutional

00:39:35.700 bullying isn't a

00:39:36.900 great campaign strategy

00:39:38.460 in small-town

00:39:39.420 Maritime Canada.

00:39:40.300 So, that was a

00:39:42.140 small bit of good

00:39:43.000 news, a not nice

00:39:44.280 person getting

00:39:45.200 exactly what they

00:39:45.980 deserve, but there

00:39:47.260 is even better

00:39:47.920 news.

00:39:48.560 We have a victory

00:39:49.600 on our hands here,

00:39:50.720 friends.

00:39:51.680 The prosecutor in

00:39:52.960 Hampton has thrown

00:39:54.780 out Walter's ticket.

00:39:55.920 They say on a

00:39:57.240 technicality, even

00:39:58.240 though that

00:39:58.660 technicality is

00:39:59.580 something that could

00:40:00.380 have easily been

00:40:02.240 amended.

00:40:02.620 I say they

00:40:04.080 turf the ticket

00:40:04.740 because they all

00:40:06.020 know that cop

00:40:06.700 made a huge

00:40:07.940 mistake and

00:40:09.040 embarrassed himself

00:40:09.820 and everyone else

00:40:10.960 now forced to deal

00:40:11.720 with the ticket

00:40:12.140 after the fact.

00:40:13.420 They're dropping

00:40:14.380 that ticket because

00:40:15.300 Walter fought back

00:40:16.480 and because we

00:40:18.060 told the world

00:40:19.220 about what

00:40:20.120 happened to

00:40:20.700 Walter.

00:40:21.620 Now, I caught

00:40:22.540 up with Walter

00:40:23.140 earlier this week

00:40:24.580 to talk about

00:40:25.560 the good news.

00:40:27.100 Take a listen.

00:40:28.660 Well, I went

00:40:29.820 to the court

00:40:31.080 and I waited

00:40:34.260 outside because

00:40:35.160 there was 30

00:40:35.720 people ahead of

00:40:36.340 me and they

00:40:36.680 were only allowing

00:40:37.420 a few people

00:40:38.220 in at a time,

00:40:39.060 a couple I

00:40:39.440 think.

00:40:40.380 Anyway, I

00:40:40.860 finally got in

00:40:41.580 after the 30

00:40:42.260 people were

00:40:42.720 done.

00:40:43.140 This was three

00:40:43.720 hours later.

00:40:45.060 And I went

00:40:45.620 in and sat

00:40:46.760 on the bench

00:40:47.320 and waited

00:40:47.620 until they

00:40:48.320 were waiting

00:40:49.980 for them to

00:40:50.420 call me up.

00:40:52.820 When the

00:40:53.380 last person up

00:40:54.520 speaking to the

00:40:55.320 judge finished

00:40:57.620 was a woman

00:40:59.380 and she

00:40:59.760 left.

00:41:01.080 And as she

00:41:01.820 left,

00:41:02.400 the judge

00:41:02.720 got up and

00:41:03.380 walked out

00:41:03.760 the door.

00:41:04.220 And I said,

00:41:04.920 what on earth

00:41:05.460 is going on

00:41:06.020 here?

00:41:08.260 And the

00:41:09.260 sheriff there

00:41:09.840 was standing

00:41:10.240 next to me

00:41:10.620 and he says,

00:41:10.800 I don't know.

00:41:12.320 So anyway,

00:41:12.840 this lady comes

00:41:13.540 over to me

00:41:14.060 and she says,

00:41:15.540 Walter?

00:41:16.000 I said,

00:41:16.300 yes.

00:41:16.880 She said,

00:41:17.460 I found your

00:41:18.060 ticket this

00:41:18.600 morning and

00:41:20.400 it wasn't

00:41:20.720 made out

00:41:21.140 properly so we

00:41:22.140 tore it up.

00:41:23.580 Well,

00:41:24.760 I don't know

00:41:25.840 whether I

00:41:26.160 believe that or

00:41:26.780 not,

00:41:27.200 but I kind of

00:41:28.000 wondered why

00:41:28.420 they didn't let

00:41:29.100 me know when

00:41:30.580 I was there

00:41:31.000 and not three

00:41:31.600 hours before

00:41:32.200 that.

00:41:32.540 But anyway,

00:41:34.020 they said it

00:41:34.500 was torn

00:41:35.200 out,

00:41:35.660 torn out.

00:41:38.840 What do

00:41:40.020 you think?

00:41:40.660 Because I

00:41:41.280 think that

00:41:42.580 they tossed

00:41:43.480 your ticket

00:41:44.040 because they

00:41:44.820 didn't think

00:41:45.340 that you were

00:41:45.880 going to

00:41:46.260 fight back.

00:41:46.840 I think they

00:41:47.180 thought you

00:41:47.480 were going

00:41:47.740 to roll

00:41:48.100 over.

00:41:48.820 They didn't

00:41:49.180 think you

00:41:49.480 were going

00:41:49.720 to go

00:41:49.920 public.

00:41:50.720 They didn't

00:41:51.560 think that

00:41:52.020 you would

00:41:52.300 ultimately end

00:41:53.340 up embarrassing

00:41:53.960 the police

00:41:54.520 force with

00:41:55.080 your very

00:41:55.420 public story.

00:41:56.280 they didn't

00:41:57.300 think you

00:41:57.600 would end

00:41:58.260 up with a

00:41:58.720 lawyer and

00:41:59.660 they didn't

00:41:59.960 think you

00:42:00.260 would show

00:42:00.560 up in court

00:42:01.100 to contest

00:42:01.640 the ticket.

00:42:02.300 So I

00:42:02.760 think that

00:42:04.060 they just

00:42:04.940 didn't want

00:42:05.780 to deal

00:42:06.060 with Walter

00:42:06.540 Matheson

00:42:07.040 anymore.

00:42:07.460 That's what

00:42:07.740 I think.

00:42:08.500 Now,

00:42:08.780 Walter,

00:42:09.240 I'm very

00:42:10.540 happy to

00:42:11.160 hear that

00:42:11.460 your ticket

00:42:11.780 has been

00:42:12.160 dropped.

00:42:12.900 I know a

00:42:13.320 lot of

00:42:13.620 people were

00:42:14.340 cheering for

00:42:15.460 you and

00:42:16.060 supportive of

00:42:17.600 you fighting

00:42:18.420 back and I

00:42:19.080 know a lot

00:42:19.480 of people

00:42:19.900 donated to

00:42:20.700 help cover

00:42:21.080 the cost of

00:42:21.580 your lawyer,

00:42:22.120 Sam Goldstein.

00:42:23.700 Do you have

00:42:24.300 any message

00:42:25.680 for those

00:42:26.260 people?

00:42:26.860 Oh,

00:42:27.120 yes.

00:42:27.700 I'd like to

00:42:28.400 thank everybody

00:42:29.080 that stood

00:42:32.340 behind me for

00:42:33.220 this,

00:42:33.700 especially Rebel

00:42:34.820 News, of

00:42:35.440 course, and

00:42:36.200 you, Sheila.

00:42:37.080 You're my

00:42:37.700 hero now.

00:42:39.640 There was a

00:42:40.340 lot of people

00:42:41.100 that commented

00:42:41.760 on it and I

00:42:43.500 read most of

00:42:44.600 them.

00:42:46.480 Yes, I'd like

00:42:47.720 to thank you

00:42:48.220 all that

00:42:49.340 supported me

00:42:51.060 and hopefully

00:42:52.500 this ever

00:42:53.300 happens again.

00:42:53.860 And

00:42:55.520 congratulations

00:42:56.360 on your

00:42:57.040 conservative

00:42:57.480 government out

00:42:58.440 there and

00:42:59.040 I'm happy to

00:43:00.560 hear that

00:43:01.140 Carly Parrish,

00:43:02.100 the bully

00:43:02.460 lawyer who

00:43:03.000 tried to

00:43:03.400 bully me to

00:43:04.340 turn over the

00:43:05.700 recording you

00:43:06.320 took, she

00:43:06.800 lost and she

00:43:07.760 lost miserably.

00:43:08.760 So that's

00:43:09.140 fantastic.

00:43:10.140 Yes, I

00:43:10.960 agree, Sheila.

00:43:12.340 Maybe she

00:43:13.000 won't try it

00:43:13.520 again.

00:43:14.500 Oh, she's a

00:43:15.200 perennial

00:43:15.500 candidate.

00:43:16.120 Walter, I

00:43:16.480 want to thank

00:43:16.900 you so much

00:43:17.700 for reporting

00:43:19.160 back into us

00:43:19.920 and keep

00:43:20.760 fighting for

00:43:21.320 freedom out

00:43:21.740 there on the

00:43:22.160 East Coast.

00:43:22.720 Well, thank

00:43:23.140 you very

00:43:23.480 much, Sheila.

00:43:35.560 Well, that's

00:43:36.220 our show for

00:43:36.720 today.

00:43:37.060 Thanks so much

00:43:37.600 for watching.

00:43:38.220 Until next

00:43:38.640 time, on behalf

00:43:39.700 of all of us

00:43:40.260 here at Rebel

00:43:40.820 World Headquarters,

00:43:41.640 goodnight.

00:43:42.660 Keep fighting

00:43:43.200 for freedom.

00:43:43.660 Terrixie Uple was

00:43:44.640 deveined.

00:43:45.160 See you next time.

00:43:46.620 Bye.

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