Rebel News Podcast - October 08, 2020


Blackface Justin Trudeau appoints a race hustler to lead an anti-racism bureaucracy


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

Words per Minute

170.91124

Word Count

6,277

Sentence Count

456

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

Justin Trudeau appoints a race hustler to lead an anti-racism bureaucracy. Are you surprised? Ezra takes a look at the strange appointment made by Stephen Gilboa, the Heritage Minister, to the Canadian Race Relations Foundation.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I look at a strange appointment made by Stephen Gilboa.
00:00:04.620 He appoints Mohamed Hashim, a race hustler, to the Canadian Race Relations Foundation.
00:00:11.240 What a weird choice. I'll take you through some of his history in case you don't know the name.
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00:00:46.320 Tonight, blackface Justin Trudeau appoints a race hustler to lead an anti-racism bureaucracy.
00:00:53.400 Are you surprised? It's October 7th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:57.740 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:03.140 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:07.200 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:13.080 I saw this announcement yesterday from the Heritage Minister, Stephen Gilboa, that weird convicted eco-criminal that Trudeau appointed to cabinet.
00:01:28.340 Actually, I didn't see the tweet because I have been banned and blocked by Gilboa on Twitter.
00:01:34.860 I cannot access his tweets. I'm not sure why.
00:01:38.320 I'm a citizen who pays his salary.
00:01:40.720 I'm a member of Canadian society against whom he has transgressed.
00:01:45.140 That's what being convicted of a criminal offense means.
00:01:47.960 You did a wrong to all of society.
00:01:50.880 So why won't this little Trudeau criminal let me see what he says?
00:01:54.820 I pay his salary.
00:01:56.240 But that's the kind of guy Gilboa is.
00:01:59.000 I mean, he says what he means.
00:02:02.100 And he means to censor the Internet.
00:02:04.740 And he means to require licenses for people who have websites.
00:02:09.000 Remember this?
00:02:09.520 As far as the licensing is concerned, if you're a distributor of content in Canada, and obviously, you know, if you're a very small media organization, the requirement probably wouldn't be the same as if you're Facebook or Google.
00:02:26.820 So there would have to be some proportionality embedded into this.
00:02:32.280 But we would ask that they have a license.
00:02:34.480 Yes.
00:02:34.700 So, yeah, Gilboa's longer-term plan is to have me shut down until he can achieve that.
00:02:41.420 He'll just stop me from reading his pearls of wisdom on Twitter.
00:02:44.780 Well, I found a way to read his tweet, and he said this.
00:02:49.300 Today I announced the appointment of Mohamed Hashim as the new head of the Canadian Race Relations Foundation.
00:02:55.500 With his experience in addressing systemic barriers and promoting inclusion, I am confident that he will carry out his mission brilliantly.
00:03:02.740 Well, as the historian Robert Conquest taught us, the simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it's controlled by a cabal of its enemies.
00:03:16.400 An example of that is the dairy cartel.
00:03:18.400 They actually work to keep out dairy products, right, to drive up the price.
00:03:22.800 Same thing with the taxi commissions.
00:03:24.800 They work to keep out taxi competitors like Uber.
00:03:28.500 So, the Canadian Race Relations Foundation has just hired someone who is a full-time race hustler himself.
00:03:38.020 Perfect fit for Justin Blackface Trudeau.
00:03:41.040 I first heard of Mohamed Hashim when he jumped into action after the mass murder in Toronto a couple years back in Toronto's Greek neighborhood called the Danforth.
00:03:50.720 Back then, a Muslim man named Faisal Hussain went on a shooting spree through the Danforth.
00:03:57.380 He murdered two women, an 18-year-old named Reese Fallon and a 10-year-old girl named Juliana Cozes.
00:04:05.820 And he wounded a dozen more.
00:04:07.960 The strangest part was when Hussain saw people who were visible minorities.
00:04:12.700 He told them they could go without worry.
00:04:15.200 He wasn't going to murder them.
00:04:16.480 It was only white folks in that neighborhood, maybe Greeks or Christians, that he apparently wanted to kill.
00:04:22.960 He drove halfway across the city to go there to do his shooting spree.
00:04:27.020 Hussain said to a local Sikh businessman, he said to that man,
00:04:32.920 you can go, I won't shoot you.
00:04:35.000 And that man reported that to Toronto Suns, Joe Warmington.
00:04:37.740 Now, maybe a mass shooter has nothing to do with terrorism or race or religion or politics.
00:04:43.620 There are murderers of every religion and race doesn't mean that their crime had to do with their religion or their race.
00:04:50.820 But that was a curious thing he told that Sikh guy, don't you think?
00:04:55.280 Now, within moments of the shooting, a Muslim spokesman presented himself to the media on behalf of the family.
00:05:02.840 He told a beautiful story written in perfect English.
00:05:05.840 And it was immediately picked up by all the mainstream media, hungry for a counter-narrative to the curious facts that suggested terrorism.
00:05:15.900 He gave out this statement from the family.
00:05:19.860 Here's some of the things it said.
00:05:21.760 We are at a terrible loss for words, but we must speak out to express our deepest condolences to the families
00:05:28.320 who are now suffering on account of our son's horrific actions, it said.
00:05:32.040 Our son had severe mental health challenges, struggling with psychosis and depression his entire life.
00:05:40.120 The interventions of professionals are unsuccessful.
00:05:42.840 Medications and therapy were unable to treat him.
00:05:46.340 And it was signed, Hussein Family.
00:05:49.460 Did they write that?
00:05:51.960 Did they write that?
00:05:53.620 It's doubtful given how weak their command of English is.
00:05:57.220 Did they even read it?
00:05:58.600 And who in the Hussein Family approved it, if anyone at all?
00:06:04.480 Was any of that true?
00:06:07.060 And why did all the media party run with it so quickly, so uniformly, without scrutiny?
00:06:13.840 Well, Anthony Fury wrote this about it.
00:06:17.360 Meet the spin doctor behind the Hussein Family statement.
00:06:20.920 It's a story in the Toronto Sun back then.
00:06:22.700 Let me read a bit.
00:06:23.360 The man who has presented himself as the point of contact for the family of Faisal Hussein
00:06:28.620 is a professional activist who has reportedly committed himself to, quote,
00:06:32.700 framing a new narrative of Muslims in Canada and creating a national political movement.
00:06:38.120 Oh, so he's a spin doctor.
00:06:40.560 So he's not a family friend.
00:06:42.340 This is what he does professionally.
00:06:44.500 He's an activist who saw a problem.
00:06:46.480 Let me quote.
00:06:50.920 The statement was provided by Mohamed Hashem, full-time organizer for the Toronto and York
00:06:56.060 Region Labor Council.
00:06:57.600 Social media accounts belonging to Hashem.
00:06:59.660 So I'm heavily involved in supporting NDP candidates, both federally and provincially
00:07:03.540 in Ontario.
00:07:04.660 He's also described as a driving force behind the National Council of Canadian Muslims.
00:07:09.460 That's a Muslim Brotherhood-linked group.
00:07:13.060 So here you go.
00:07:13.880 So the media was so relieved, it wasn't terrorism, just mental illness and psychosis, in fact.
00:07:21.040 Blame society.
00:07:22.040 Blame the health system.
00:07:23.840 Blame Canada.
00:07:24.580 Don't blame Faisal Hussein.
00:07:26.580 Definitely don't blame Islam.
00:07:29.000 I mean, sure, ISIS claimed responsibility within days, but Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster
00:07:35.280 immediately said that wasn't true because Hashem said it wasn't true.
00:07:40.920 That was that.
00:07:41.480 Well, the story was buried, except much later we found out, you know, the mass shooting
00:07:47.440 had some of the hallmarks of terrorism.
00:07:50.140 CSIS very much thought it was of interest and top secret.
00:07:56.460 Look at this story again by Anthony Fury in the Toronto Sun.
00:07:59.960 CSIS took an interest in Danforth shooting.
00:08:02.100 New docs confirm top secret.
00:08:04.700 Canada's National Intelligence Agency took an interest in the Danforth shooting for at
00:08:08.560 least six months after the tragic event unfolded.
00:08:10.800 New top secret documents obtained by the Toronto Sun confirmed for the first time.
00:08:15.460 The heavily redacted documents show that CSIS produced their SITREP, a situation report,
00:08:20.260 at 7 a.m. the morning after the July 22, 2018 shooting that left three dead, including
00:08:25.780 the gunman Faisal Hussein and 13 others injured.
00:08:28.420 So this is the news that came out after months, months after the shooting.
00:08:35.380 Just one more fact about that mass shooting, and then I'll bring it back to Mohammed Hashem
00:08:38.300 in a moment.
00:08:39.040 I'm just reminding you about the mass shooting in the Danforth by Faisal Hussein and what it
00:08:44.120 was really like.
00:08:44.960 This is from a police document called an ITO, or Information to Obtain, as in this is what
00:08:50.500 the police put together.
00:08:51.660 They swear it's true.
00:08:52.400 They go to a judge to obtain a search warrant.
00:08:55.720 This is from the police document.
00:08:57.940 While the media party was running with the, he was so sick excuse, here's what the police
00:09:02.640 were saying.
00:09:04.000 This is from interviews with the family that police had conducted.
00:09:07.980 This is from his twin brother.
00:09:10.580 Faisal was into guns when he was younger, but he has no idea how he would have obtained
00:09:16.200 one, says the brother.
00:09:17.660 And one more.
00:09:18.200 About four years ago, he remembers Faisal visiting Pakistan with his father.
00:09:23.040 Oh, really?
00:09:24.000 Pakistan?
00:09:25.740 Faisal Hussein's dad was also interviewed by the cops.
00:09:28.920 His dad, quote, took Faisal to Islamabad, Pakistan, about two or three years ago to visit family.
00:09:34.680 Faisal was happy on the trip and did not want to return because people left him alone there.
00:09:40.700 So Faisal Hussein didn't like Canada, didn't want to come back to Canada, didn't like the
00:09:45.520 people here, liked it better in Pakistan.
00:09:47.520 His dad, quote, forces Faisal to attend Dur-Islam mosque as he does not go willingly.
00:09:54.160 I wonder if that's true.
00:09:55.400 We don't know.
00:09:57.220 I've read this to you a year or so or two years ago, but I'm just refreshing your memory
00:10:01.460 if you don't remember this document.
00:10:03.780 In the next line, Faisal didn't smile much lately and only came out of his room to eat.
00:10:10.060 That doesn't sound like psychosis to me.
00:10:11.600 Sounds like he was brooding.
00:10:13.160 But look at paragraph 33 in the information to obtain.
00:10:16.180 This is quoting Faisal Hussein's mom.
00:10:18.480 So the brother and the dad said, oh yeah, he went to Pakistan.
00:10:22.120 They interviewed the mom separately and, quote, she advised the following about Faisal, has
00:10:28.080 never left Canada.
00:10:30.920 Really?
00:10:32.080 So the brother and the father said, sure, he went with his dad to Pakistan.
00:10:35.800 Didn't want to come back.
00:10:36.780 Loved it.
00:10:38.080 But the mom said, no, no, no, no.
00:10:39.300 He's never left Canada.
00:10:40.340 Never gone to Pakistan.
00:10:42.120 What?
00:10:42.320 So he had guns and drugs and had been to Pakistan and hated the West and loved being in Pakistan
00:10:49.040 and went to Pakistan, but his mother swears he had never been to Pakistan.
00:10:53.320 He's a good boy.
00:10:54.780 And nothing about psychosis in these interviews.
00:10:56.920 But Mohammed Hashem had done his job well.
00:10:59.900 He wrote the truth.
00:11:01.240 Good enough for the media party.
00:11:02.760 Good enough to call anyone who was worried about terrorism and Islamophobe.
00:11:06.480 Until it turned out that CSIS and the Toronto police were worried about terrorism themselves
00:11:10.940 because at least one of his parents were lying about things.
00:11:14.600 He was into guns and drugs.
00:11:16.540 The excuse in Hashem's fake letter was exposed.
00:11:19.380 But that was so much after the letter had been published.
00:11:23.480 Hashem did his job very well.
00:11:25.940 Same thing with the hijab hoax.
00:11:27.500 Remember that one?
00:11:29.300 This young girl claimed that she was attacked on the way to school by a Chinese man, apparently,
00:11:35.000 who didn't say anything to her, apparently, but was carrying scissors, apparently,
00:11:39.300 and cut her hijab without poking her, which is quite a feat.
00:11:44.000 And no one saw it.
00:11:45.320 And he came back again and he didn't say anything and no one saw it.
00:11:48.740 Really?
00:11:49.840 And not only did the school not lock down the school,
00:11:53.240 the school board called a national press conference and put the 11-year-old girl on national TV.
00:11:57.320 Would you do that?
00:11:58.140 If an 11-year-old girl had really been attacked by a random person on the street who was still at large,
00:12:02.840 would you identify the girl so the criminal would know who she was?
00:12:07.780 It's just so crazy.
00:12:08.960 Oh, and the actual press conference itself, the brother joking around and laughing.
00:12:14.040 Who would believe that?
00:12:17.400 Well, it was a hoax, as anyone could see.
00:12:21.100 In that case, it only took police a few days to say the obvious.
00:12:25.380 The girl lied.
00:12:26.600 And her mom had magnified the lied, and the school board has magnified the lied.
00:12:32.320 And to this day, Justin Trudeau, well, he tweeted about the hoax,
00:12:36.800 and his tweets remain up to this day.
00:12:40.080 Fake news, disinformation, but all part of Mohammed Hashem's disinformation campaign.
00:12:46.380 Hashem loved it.
00:12:48.040 Hashem loved it.
00:12:48.920 He wrote, having the police recognize this as a potential hate crime is a much greater act of deterrence
00:12:55.640 and a signal that Islamophobia will not be tolerated, said Mohammed Hashem,
00:13:00.700 a member of the United Alliance on Race Relations, or Urban Alliance on Race Relations.
00:13:05.660 You bet he was all over that hoax.
00:13:07.280 That's his style.
00:13:08.840 Or remember when a Syrian migrant went full Antifa on an elderly lady?
00:13:12.920 Remember that criminal?
00:13:13.820 Well, that guy, Allah al-Sufi, was the son of Hassam al-Sufi,
00:13:24.220 who had been, you know, some media celebrity of sorts.
00:13:28.300 He was a Syrian migrant who'd done good.
00:13:30.460 And it turns out his son is a young Antifa thug.
00:13:34.320 So who do you call to fix this PR disaster?
00:13:37.200 The fixer-spinner, Mohammed Hashem.
00:13:41.180 The CBC loved it.
00:13:42.360 Look at this.
00:13:42.800 They didn't know who to call.
00:13:44.960 That's how Trudeau's CBC praises Hashem.
00:13:48.220 They basically, the guy who comes in to turn terrorists into mentally ill people
00:13:53.560 and turns Antifa thugs into victims of Islamophobia.
00:13:57.080 The CBC loves this guy.
00:13:57.920 I'm a quote.
00:13:59.680 Last fall, Hashem showed up the day Hassam al-Sufi,
00:14:03.300 the owner of Toronto Syrian restaurant Sufis,
00:14:06.140 announced that he was going to shutter his doors due to death threats and other hateful messages.
00:14:10.520 The closure came after al-Sufi's son was involved in an incident outside of a Maxime Bernier event in Hamilton.
00:14:17.240 Ala al-Sufi faced a number of charges, including two counts of intimidation,
00:14:21.320 two counts of wearing a disguise with intent and causing a disturbance
00:14:24.640 after he was arrested for allegedly blocking the path of an elderly woman with a walker.
00:14:29.680 Hashem says the family had no idea what to do when the death threats came in
00:14:34.380 because they arrived only a few years earlier.
00:14:37.140 So he knows how to play the victim.
00:14:40.120 Fake hijab hoax turning the girl into a victim instead of the liar.
00:14:45.300 Fake spin here turning an Antifa thug into a victim.
00:14:49.080 The media is happy to help.
00:14:51.320 He doesn't just champion extremists.
00:14:53.400 He's opposed to de-radicalizing actual terrorists.
00:14:55.980 Look at this tweet.
00:14:57.960 Hey, Ralph Goodale, this is very important.
00:15:01.000 Playing up de-radicalization only further marginalizes Muslims more.
00:15:05.740 Now, I don't believe de-radicalization is a thing.
00:15:08.780 Just look at the recidivism rate of the terrorists released from Guantanamo Bay.
00:15:13.380 It's not like this is an illness to be cured.
00:15:16.280 It's a belief system, being a jihadist.
00:15:18.160 It's not like a rash.
00:15:20.040 These people believe in the jihad and they won't disbelieve it
00:15:23.140 just because some liberal social worker asks them to.
00:15:26.700 Hashem didn't just do defense for Muslim extremists.
00:15:32.040 He doesn't really care for the Jews that much.
00:15:34.340 Here he is defending an anti-Semitic liberal MP.
00:15:37.900 Remember Samir Zuberi?
00:15:39.720 Here's the deal.
00:15:40.540 This is someone with very checkered history.
00:15:45.080 B'nai B'rith describes him as having anti-Semitic, anti-Israel views.
00:15:50.880 Certainly he has a checkered history.
00:15:53.540 For example, doubting that Osama bin Laden was the mastermind behind 9-11.
00:16:00.980 During his days at Concordia University, he got the Jewish club there delisted.
00:16:06.620 And there's been some other things.
00:16:07.880 Oh yes, he likes the idea of Sharia law being incorporated in Canada.
00:16:14.760 Yeah, that guy.
00:16:16.060 Well, Hashem is there and he'll claim that such an anti-Semite and 9-11 supporter, excuser,
00:16:22.420 is in fact just kosher.
00:16:24.280 Totally kosher.
00:16:25.140 Aaron O'Toole had called out Zuberi's anti-Semitism and views on 9-11.
00:16:29.120 And here's what Hashem wrote.
00:16:31.560 It's funny how you call him an anti-Semite, but the most recent president of the Montreal
00:16:35.440 Board of Rabbis, Rabbi Lisa Gushko, calls him a friend.
00:16:39.180 Talk about using the Jewish community as political pawns to score cheap points.
00:16:42.640 Shame on you.
00:16:44.380 Got it.
00:16:45.900 He's flipping it around.
00:16:47.120 He's good at that.
00:16:47.760 And then there's just plain old telling the Jews to shut up.
00:16:51.600 Jewish stalwarts, whatever those are.
00:16:53.600 Maybe I'm one of them.
00:16:55.240 There was this Jewish conference on anti-Semitism and Hashem knew who the bad guys were.
00:17:00.520 It's really shocking how so many Jewish stalwarts could be involved with this.
00:17:04.880 I get the need to expose and discuss Islamic extremists, but that's not the limit of expression
00:17:09.820 within the conference.
00:17:11.460 Many have crossed the line and conflated to impose negative values on all Muslims.
00:17:16.320 So he doesn't like Israel much either.
00:17:19.200 No surprise there.
00:17:20.640 Did John Baird just say Canada wants the 67 borders with land swaps as the basis of a
00:17:25.540 peace deal?
00:17:26.260 Look, the guy is a political spin doctor.
00:17:28.740 That's what he is.
00:17:30.240 He does nothing to improve race relations.
00:17:32.920 He does not heal rifts.
00:17:35.180 He defends terrorists if he have to.
00:17:37.660 He spins the media.
00:17:39.760 He propagates lies about security threats of Islamic terrorists.
00:17:43.220 He denounces Jews who are worried about terrorism.
00:17:45.720 He even criticizes the liberals for what little they're doing about terrorists.
00:17:51.060 This is the man Justin Trudeau and Stephen Gilboa just put in charge of a government bureaucracy
00:17:55.760 with $26 million of assets.
00:17:59.740 The crazy thing is the Race Relations Foundation was set up in part with running by Japanese Canadians,
00:18:05.920 maybe the most peaceful people in the country.
00:18:09.040 The purpose was to help learn the lessons of the Japanese internment.
00:18:12.960 Imagine what those founders would think now with such a hustler and huckster running the
00:18:18.560 show and spending their money.
00:18:21.100 Race Relations Foundation?
00:18:22.900 No.
00:18:23.980 That Robert Conquest rule, that applies here.
00:18:27.700 It's now a $26 million battering ram against race relations for accused terrorists and definitely
00:18:37.500 against those stalwart Jews.
00:18:39.500 Stay with us for more.
00:18:53.580 Well, depending on how you measure, you could say that China is winning its asymmetrical war
00:19:01.280 against the West.
00:19:02.600 Economically, it seems resilient.
00:19:05.380 It hasn't shut itself down permanently as much of the West has done.
00:19:10.560 In fact, it's making money off the vestiges of the pandemic, selling us personal protective equipment.
00:19:18.280 In terms of military expansionism, it continues full force.
00:19:23.080 They've taken over Hong Kong and the West has done but a peep.
00:19:26.920 Now they're threatening war with India high in the mountains.
00:19:30.560 I'm not sure by what measure China could be said to be losing its war against the West.
00:19:37.460 And in about a month, we'll see if, in fact, Joe Biden, whose family has deep ties to China
00:19:43.080 economically, will be the victor.
00:19:45.800 If so, if he beats Donald Trump, then I think it's fair to say China will have won the war.
00:19:51.840 But what about the war for the hearts and minds of the West?
00:19:55.840 According to a new international survey by the liberal but fair Pew Research Group,
00:20:03.260 China has never been more hated ever.
00:20:06.800 Joining us now via Skype from Winnipeg to talk about this is our friend Spencer Fernando.
00:20:11.500 And if you're not following him at spencerfernando.com, you're doing it wrong.
00:20:15.420 Spencer, great to see you again.
00:20:17.360 Good to see you.
00:20:17.760 You know, I'm really nervous about Trump's re-election for a number of reasons.
00:20:23.440 China is a really big one of those reasons because you couldn't see a starker contrast
00:20:28.980 between Trump and Biden on possibly any issue other than China.
00:20:35.960 I mean, maybe on fracking, maybe on...
00:20:40.220 I can't even think of anything where it's so...
00:20:42.880 The contrast is so great as in on China.
00:20:44.940 Would you agree with that?
00:20:45.920 Yeah, I mean, Biden's tried to copy a lot of Trump's rhetoric lately.
00:20:50.540 But if you look at what he was saying, when he was actually in power, he was very friendly
00:20:54.440 to China.
00:20:55.100 He said, oh, you know, China is not a competitor for the states, which is just absurd to say.
00:20:59.760 He said, they're not bad folks talking about Xi Jinping.
00:21:03.880 So yeah, I mean, he definitely seems much weaker on China than Trump has been.
00:21:08.440 The only thing is, I mean, you know, people like Chuck Schumer in the states and some of the
00:21:11.900 Democrats have been pretty tough on China for a while.
00:21:14.360 So I think it depends whether he gets his way on it or whether some of the people, if he
00:21:18.520 wins, of course, some of the people in the Democratic Party and in the U.S. power structure
00:21:23.800 at large pressure him into being tougher on China.
00:21:26.700 But yeah, it would definitely be a concern with him in power on the China issue.
00:21:30.360 Now, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has been on a real international campaign to build a
00:21:36.300 coalition against China.
00:21:38.520 And that coalition, he wants it to include people rejecting Huawei, the Chinese telecom
00:21:45.440 giant that wants to build the 5G internet backbone in the West.
00:21:50.840 And Canada is still wobbling on that.
00:21:53.640 Other countries are taking a harder line.
00:21:55.580 I don't know if that momentum will continue if Pompeo is replaced.
00:22:01.860 But what's interesting to me in this Pew study, I'd like to just show some of the different
00:22:05.220 countries, is just how deeply public opinion has turned against China.
00:22:11.840 In Australia, the number of Australians who are hostile towards China has doubled from 40%
00:22:19.480 to 81%.
00:22:20.460 In the United Kingdom, it's gone up four times, from 16% to 74%.
00:22:26.960 I'm just looking at the stats right here.
00:22:28.920 In the Netherlands, it's more than doubled from 34% to 73%.
00:22:32.460 And I have to say, Canadians are pretty vigorous on that too, as you know.
00:22:38.200 Just a few years ago, only 27% of Canadians were hostile or critical or worried about China.
00:22:44.800 Now that number is 73%.
00:22:47.020 I wonder if the grassroots world opposition to China means anything, though, if the leaders,
00:22:55.320 business leaders, tech leaders, military leaders continue to sell out.
00:23:02.220 Yeah, well, that's the big question.
00:23:03.360 It's going to be an election issue in a lot of places, including here in Canada.
00:23:06.640 If you look at Aaron O'Toole, he's taken a tougher stance on China than any leader,
00:23:10.720 a big political leader we've seen in Canada, possibly ever, but at least for some time.
00:23:16.000 So it'll be interesting to see how Canadians react to that.
00:23:18.640 I mean, Trudeau, there have been a few articles talking about how the liberals are now,
00:23:21.900 they're going to try to shift towards a somewhat tougher position on China.
00:23:24.820 Maybe they're looking at the polls.
00:23:26.540 But there's things they could be doing that they're still not doing.
00:23:28.660 I mean, they haven't banned Huawei.
00:23:29.920 That'd be easy to do.
00:23:31.220 They're not taking any steps to reduce the, you know, many of our universities are highly
00:23:35.380 reliant on foreign students from China, and they haven't done anything to reduce
00:23:39.260 that reliance, you know, saying we're not going to have any more foreign students from
00:23:43.400 China coming in.
00:23:44.120 They haven't done that.
00:23:45.060 The Vancouver housing market is being totally distorted by Chinese billionaires buying up
00:23:49.760 a lot of the property.
00:23:50.660 So Canadian citizens themselves can't even live in some of our own cities, can't even
00:23:55.160 afford to live there.
00:23:56.480 So they're not doing anything about that either.
00:23:58.080 So there's some things they could be doing to show some resolve and strength, and they
00:24:01.600 keep failing to do it.
00:24:02.600 Yeah, you know, I think Trump had said that no members of the Communist Party will be allowed
00:24:09.360 to immigrate to the United States.
00:24:10.960 It's sort of crazy that that isn't the law right now.
00:24:14.600 I mean, after the Second World War, there was a de-Nazification program, and anyone who
00:24:22.020 had been associated with the Nazi Party, I'm not talking about just your common soldier in
00:24:28.700 the Wehrmacht, I'm talking any Nazi, they had to go through a de-radicalization, they
00:24:33.460 had to, some of them were interned.
00:24:35.740 I mean, you couldn't come to America if you were a Nazi.
00:24:39.260 I'm not exactly equating the Communist Party with the Nazi Party, but there are some similarities.
00:24:47.040 Authoritarian, fascist, concentration camps of millions of Uyghurs, a surveillance society,
00:24:54.840 a belligerent against the West.
00:24:56.620 I think there are some analogies, it's crazy to me, and here in Canada, not only do we
00:25:01.540 allow communists to become citizens, as in members of the Communist Party, we allow the
00:25:06.440 sons and daughters of rich Communist Party cronies to fill up our universities, as you
00:25:10.960 mentioned.
00:25:12.380 Yeah, it's interesting.
00:25:13.440 I mean, no one knows where history is going to go, but if you look at, you know, Germany
00:25:16.800 before World War II, you know, say, let's say 1935, 1934, and then China now, there are
00:25:22.400 some very disturbing similarities.
00:25:23.660 I mean, China is, in many ways, an authoritarian ethnostate, which, again, is something that
00:25:28.860 doesn't get mentioned, right?
00:25:29.720 You see all the elites here saying, Canada must accept record immigration levels, or else
00:25:34.200 we're all racist.
00:25:35.060 You know, if anyone wants to even reduce to, basically, well, it would still be a record.
00:25:38.680 It's, oh, any reduction at all, totally racist, unless it's in Quebec, of course.
00:25:42.300 And it's okay.
00:25:43.460 But then you have China saying, you know, only a certain amount of people, only a certain
00:25:46.940 group of people are allowed to be citizens.
00:25:48.520 It's based, really, on ethnicity.
00:25:50.660 They're trying to, they're doing an actual cultural genocide against the Uyghurs, and,
00:25:55.000 you know, many people seem to not care about that.
00:25:57.580 So it's interesting, you know, we're supposed to accept all these things from China, but if
00:26:00.820 we do anything in our own country, oh, it's totally unacceptable.
00:26:03.860 But, you know, all the people said never again, and, oh, they're fighting fascism, and we're
00:26:07.580 not going to let authoritarianism happen ever again, you know, they seem to be willing to
00:26:12.300 turn a blind eye to China, I guess, if there's some profit or power in it for themselves.
00:26:16.540 So I think most Canadians are against that.
00:26:18.280 But as you say, the question is, will the people in charge actually do anything about
00:26:22.240 it?
00:26:22.800 Yeah.
00:26:23.180 I mean, I look at the NBA, the National Basketball Association, obsessed with China because it's
00:26:28.340 such an important part of their commercial success.
00:26:32.140 I mean, you get an endorsement in China as a player.
00:26:35.900 You're an extra zero richer.
00:26:39.200 You're the league.
00:26:40.080 You're an extra two zeros richer.
00:26:42.420 So to watch how they have silenced any criticism of China and any support for Hong Kong, it's
00:26:50.500 actually far more creepy to me to watch the NBA enforce Chinese propaganda than anything
00:26:56.640 a government is doing.
00:26:57.520 And that's the same in Hollywood.
00:26:59.580 I mean, we just saw the Disney film Mulan filmed in China.
00:27:04.080 In their credits, the closing credits, they literally give a shout out to the Xinjiang
00:27:10.380 secret police, the people who are running the Uyghur concentration camps.
00:27:15.440 I mean, it's bad enough that that's where they filmed it.
00:27:17.860 But for them to say, hey, you guys are great.
00:27:19.880 Thanks, coppers.
00:27:21.060 I mean, that's in the end, that still didn't please the Chinese dictatorship.
00:27:25.320 They panned that Mulan film.
00:27:28.280 But to watch mighty Disney and mighty professional sports, and you can't, how can you just say
00:27:33.540 I'm boycotting Disney?
00:27:34.740 Try doing that if you've got kids.
00:27:36.620 How can you say I'm boycotting all professional sports leagues?
00:27:39.660 That's just impossible.
00:27:40.580 I think the real problems are the power of commerce corrupting America and Canada.
00:27:49.500 I think that's actually a bigger problem than the politicians.
00:27:53.280 Yeah, I agree.
00:27:54.140 I mean, you saw even with the new Top Gun movie, they made a little sneaky change there where,
00:27:59.180 you know, Tom Cruise's jacket originally had, I think, the Taiwanese flag on the back,
00:28:03.000 and they changed it to something a little more generic, right?
00:28:05.200 So it's subtle, but that tells you what they're trying to do.
00:28:08.700 But yeah, I think the issue with commerce, I mean, I think it's also an issue with the
00:28:12.200 strength of civilizations.
00:28:13.440 I mean, say what you want about China's government.
00:28:15.160 It's obviously a big problem.
00:28:16.760 But civilizationally, you know, they have a pretty strong sense of themselves.
00:28:20.060 And in the West, that's been totally erased.
00:28:21.840 There's people trying to, well, they erase it right now with all this, you know, the West
00:28:26.280 is nothing but evil.
00:28:27.240 We need to tear down all our statues.
00:28:29.300 Any time in history there's been a competition between a confident civilization and one that's
00:28:33.200 doubting themselves.
00:28:34.740 The confident one always wins.
00:28:36.580 And so I think in the West, we're kind of tearing apart all our values, tearing apart
00:28:39.640 our history, fighting internally.
00:28:42.240 And, you know, you take away, you know, people's belief, you take away people's faith in themselves
00:28:47.440 and their own country, and then you're left with just, oh, just make money, just, you know,
00:28:50.700 get richer, go buy some nice stuff.
00:28:53.100 And then China's going to win that battle every time.
00:28:54.980 So I think the fight against China is not just it's about opposing them.
00:28:58.760 It's about being strong within our own country.
00:29:00.980 And that's not really happening.
00:29:04.060 It's been more than a dozen years since I was in China.
00:29:06.680 But there are Mao statues everywhere.
00:29:09.000 He's still on their currency.
00:29:10.960 They don't say he's 100% right.
00:29:13.260 I think they have some saying he was 80% right, or they have some weird math like that.
00:29:18.360 But in no way are they erasing him from their history.
00:29:23.200 And that Chinese nationalism is absolutely what's fueling things.
00:29:27.560 It's a form.
00:29:29.020 Yeah, you called it ethnic nationalism.
00:29:30.700 I think that's right.
00:29:31.460 Well, Spencer, I'm glad you're keeping up the fight on this issue.
00:29:35.280 Do you think that the Canadian media are starting to turn?
00:29:39.740 I saw the other day the Globe and Mail published a big infomercial from, I think it was called
00:29:46.860 the People's Daily.
00:29:47.760 There's this huge section called China Watch, which makes it sound like it's anti-China.
00:29:53.160 It was written by the Chinese embassy, really.
00:29:55.760 Now, it was marked as an ad, but it sure was persuasive if you were to believe it.
00:30:02.360 On the other hand, the Globe and Mail does actually some pretty good journalism on China.
00:30:06.120 Where do you think the Canadian media are?
00:30:08.840 Are there any people in the media still totally in love with communist China?
00:30:14.120 There might be a few, but I think they're starting to get the message, some of them at least.
00:30:17.980 I mean, I think Sam Cooper from Global News did a good article about there's been some disturbing gang activity,
00:30:24.340 gangs linked to communist China and politicians there.
00:30:28.300 So some journalists get it.
00:30:29.500 You know, there's still, even in the mainstream media, some journalists with credibility,
00:30:32.480 but the problem is they're few and far between, and their owners often just want to make profits.
00:30:38.220 So I think it's going to be a big battle for the soul of journalism in the country between China trying to co-opt people.
00:30:43.540 They've got lots of subtle ways of doing it, too.
00:30:45.180 It's not just straight up they're going to go and necessarily threaten somebody or give them money directly.
00:30:49.720 They've got lots of subtle ways, and we'll see if people have the ability to resist.
00:30:53.920 The one thing that does concern me about Canadians sometimes, though, is, you know,
00:30:56.660 there's this, I call it the cult of niceness, right, is people think, oh, Canadians, we have to be nice all the time.
00:31:02.580 You know, there's a difference between being nice and being good.
00:31:05.020 You can be good, and you don't always have to be nice.
00:31:07.020 Sometimes you have to be tough, even brutal once in a while.
00:31:09.660 But Canadians often think, oh, we'll just roll over for everybody.
00:31:12.460 We'll just be nice.
00:31:13.620 And, you know, if we do that and we don't change the attitude, you know,
00:31:16.420 China's just going to look at us and say, man, this is going to be easy.
00:31:19.040 So I think we have to smarten up.
00:31:21.240 Yeah.
00:31:21.840 Wise words.
00:31:22.500 Well, it's great to have you back on the show.
00:31:24.400 Tell me what you're working on.
00:31:25.320 What should we keep an eye peeled?
00:31:26.840 What kind of things should we look forward to at spencerfernando.com?
00:31:30.860 Well, I'll be writing more, I think, about what the Liberals are doing to the economy.
00:31:34.260 Obviously, the massive spending and debt they're racking up.
00:31:37.620 The NDP, really, not even an opposition party anymore.
00:31:40.280 It's just a weak kind of version of the Liberals that's propping them up.
00:31:43.540 So that might create an opportunity for the Green Party.
00:31:46.320 But we'll see.
00:31:47.300 I mean, Jagmeet Singh is even amused about keeping the Liberals in power for the rest of their term.
00:31:51.420 So nobody voted for that.
00:31:53.300 Nobody was told that was what's going to happen.
00:31:54.960 And now it seems like that's what's going on.
00:31:56.720 So I don't think people are too pleased about that.
00:31:59.360 Well, listen, it's great to have you again on the show, as I mentioned.
00:32:02.340 And, folks, I've said this before about other friends, like our friends at True North, Candace Malcolm and Andrew Lawton.
00:32:09.880 There are so few independent journalists in this country.
00:32:12.800 Spencer Fernando is one of them.
00:32:14.000 I understand you're a member of the Independent Press Gallery.
00:32:16.780 Am I right on that?
00:32:17.580 And we are, too.
00:32:21.120 And I understand there's about 50 members of the Independent Press Gallery, which I found encouraging.
00:32:25.800 So I'd like to encourage our viewers to go over to SpencerFernando.com and sign up.
00:32:31.620 Because there are so few of us independent voices that don't take government dough.
00:32:36.740 I think each of us, frankly, has an obligation to support those like Spencer who are willing to take a stand.
00:32:42.400 We're thrilled to have you here and keep up the great work on your own website.
00:32:46.100 I appreciate it.
00:32:46.760 Take care.
00:32:47.040 All right, you take care, too.
00:32:48.460 There you have it, SpencerFernando.com.
00:32:51.240 Stay with us for more.
00:33:04.840 Hey, welcome back.
00:33:06.240 Corey Newcomb writes,
00:33:07.520 Hate to say it, but I agree with McKenna on this one.
00:33:10.320 I've eaten dog, so I can't criticize her for that when in Rome.
00:33:14.480 The other stuff, distasteful to Westerners for sure, but I don't think McKenna had much potential to put a stop to that stuff, being a foreigner in a strange land.
00:33:24.180 They didn't exploit the situation in trying to make an interesting TV show, but is she responsible for what happened?
00:33:30.260 No, I don't think so.
00:33:31.780 I still don't like her politics, but her role in the TV show doesn't really affect my opinion of her.
00:33:36.300 Well, listen, I appreciate you taking that point of view.
00:33:38.980 I'm glad you shared that with me.
00:33:40.160 In my noontime show today, I mentioned when I went to China a dozen years ago, I sort of became a vegetarian because there were certain things I didn't want to eat.
00:33:51.080 The only place I really ate anything I saw was in Xinjiang because I sort of knew, okay, the Muslim province, there's certain things you're not eating there or whatever.
00:33:59.820 I think when you travel, you have to bend the knee to local customs to a degree, but really, I want to, I mean, let's put aside the marriage.
00:34:09.920 Maybe it was just an arranged marriage and not an auction or human trafficking, and let's say eating dog, well, I mean, I ate rabbit stew once, I'll admit it, but what about going to an illegal cockfight and putting money in the fund to bribe the local police?
00:34:26.500 Is that just going with local customs? Is that an amoral act? I'm going to disagree with you on that one.
00:34:35.880 Healthy Skeptic writes, the t-shirt looks like a winner, but seriously, Catherine McKenna will never answer.
00:34:40.660 For these hideous episodes, liberals are simply above it all.
00:34:44.760 See, that's a test I sometimes use.
00:34:47.060 If this had been, I don't know, a senior MP in Erin O'Toole's Conservative Party,
00:34:54.640 I don't know, if Pierre Polyev had gone with a bunch of buddies to Indonesia for 60 days,
00:35:01.220 eating dog food, all right, maybe it wouldn't be a big deal,
00:35:05.400 went to an arranged marriage with an auction of the bride,
00:35:09.060 eh, seems like we need more info there.
00:35:12.220 But you went to a cockfight, you enjoyed it, you bet on it,
00:35:16.740 and you paid money to bribe a cop?
00:35:19.120 Nah, I don't think the CBC would ignore that, do you?
00:35:21.840 On my interview with Joel Pollack, Canadian civilian, writes,
00:35:27.040 disagreement and words of dissent were turned into hate speech by these fools.
00:35:30.780 Welcome to the new world order.
00:35:33.540 While we're in tough times, I say in 30 days we'll know a great deal about the future of the West.
00:35:38.800 If Donald Trump wins, I think it'll save America from a lot of things.
00:35:43.080 It'll save America from an ascendant China.
00:35:46.420 It'll save America from anarchy and riot on the streets.
00:35:49.820 I think it'll save America from the increasing identity politics divisions.
00:35:55.320 And I think the economy will be stronger too.
00:35:57.340 I am terrified if Biden wins.
00:35:59.600 Obviously he won't be president in fact, he'll simply be president in name.
00:36:04.380 And the people behind him, well, they're the ones that really terrify me.
00:36:08.280 In Canada, you know, electing Aaron O'Toole or electing Justin Trudeau,
00:36:12.780 that'll have a difference of outcome.
00:36:16.060 But neither will affect our outcome more than having Trump or Biden in the White House.
00:36:22.560 I believe the effects on the world will be so profound,
00:36:25.660 the difference between those two presidents, those two potential presidents,
00:36:29.680 will be so profound that it will actually matter more to Canadians than our own federal election.
00:36:35.960 What do you think of that?
00:36:37.380 That's our show for today.
00:36:38.380 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:36:41.360 to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.