Rebel News Podcast - BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 31

00:00:00.000 oh good afternoon good evening everybody and welcome to the rebel news daily live stream

00:00:09.320 what we're calling breakdown and i'm joined by a new face today not a new face to the team

00:00:14.060 but a new face to the hopefully still clean airbnb in ottawa that's serving as our satellite

00:00:20.400 studio alexa lavoie how's it going guys oh my god what a day i'm sure that you were

00:00:27.360 overwhelmed from what happened today it was incredible i am uh exhausted i feel about 20

00:00:39.520 iq points stupider and um i feel like all of my psychic energy was drained by listening to

00:00:46.580 lies obfuscation and far more words than necessary to say the thing that you wanted to say

00:00:52.640 i felt like justin trudeau was just talking talking talking to wind down the clock

00:00:57.020 on some of the uh adversarial lawyers what do you guys think no you're totally right i mean

00:01:04.700 justin trudeau we know how he is by the way nice to see you too sheila i didn't get an introduction

00:01:09.660 after being out of the live stream for two days because i was sick the commission was so long

00:01:14.360 it was a very interesting day justin trudeau's testimony you saw him lie multiple times said

00:01:20.540 that he never called unvaccinated canadians names he said i never did that yes you did buddy you said

00:01:26.380 it in french which is the reason why he did parts of your testimony in french because you wanted to

00:01:29.840 make sure that we couldn't just clip it right away um yeah it was lies after lies after lies manipulation

00:01:36.400 trying to say something longer than that she wanted to and eva chipiuk's strategy in her cross

00:01:43.860 examination was great because it didn't give him time to actually walk around the answer and talk

00:01:49.620 run the answer she took the time that she needed to to make her point she made it great

00:01:54.120 yeah before we get too far into the weeds here i should tell everybody what we're doing

00:01:59.220 so we are covering this is our daily analysis and today thankfully thankfully is the last day

00:02:07.320 of witnesses and testimony after 31 days why does it feel like longer um it feels like longer but it

00:02:14.900 also feels like less um of the public order emergency commission what we're calling the

00:02:20.680 trucker commission um because it is the fail safe examination built into the emergencies act

00:02:26.540 to prevent tyrannical buffoons and egomaniacal crybabies like justin trudeau from invoking a wartime law

00:02:34.500 on peaceful dissidents which is exactly what justin trudeau did when the anti-mandate convoy

00:02:41.360 for freedom rolled into the nation's capital and so right now this is as i said the public examination

00:02:48.000 all the decision makers are being called all the fact finders are being called and even some of the

00:02:54.360 victims were called and as william alluded to convoy lawyer eva chipiuk was the real star of the show

00:03:01.100 today uh she got her chance to cross-examine justin trudeau and she had a very a clever strategy

00:03:09.040 because justin trudeau is if nothing a predictable idiot and she knew that he was going to waste time

00:03:17.300 and not answer any of her questions anyway so she really didn't ask all that many questions

00:03:23.960 what she did was she took the opportunity to do what the truckers went to ottawa to do

00:03:31.520 and that was to make justin trudeau hear them and so part of her cross-examination was her reading

00:03:40.040 statements from people who were either in the convoy or people who were in ottawa or people who felt

00:03:46.380 nothing but despair until the truckers rolled through their town or were appalled that because

00:03:52.280 of the prime minister's rhetoric that they could no longer um visit there was division in their family

00:03:58.760 people were saying that they should die or be denied health care she made justin trudeau sit there and

00:04:04.640 whether or not he took it to heart i doubt but he did have to sit there with an awkward goofy grin on

00:04:11.120 his face while he heard pleas of canadian so well done sheila if i can just super quick say what you

00:04:20.160 just said in different way because i think it's it's it's relevant brendan miller you saw him throughout

00:04:24.580 the inquiry bring a lot of legal precedents bring a lot of legal questions of why it was not legal for

00:04:31.500 government to invoke this unprecedented extraordinary emergencies act on the peaceful protesters who were

00:04:38.020 in ottawa's process of government and i mean it was all in the record the unlawful redactions i mean

00:04:43.500 we've got a bunch of documents that are all redacted one document we saw today had tons of pages redacted

00:04:48.820 so he was there on the legal side he did an excellent job doing the lead the legal side of

00:04:54.420 things and today i think that we saw eva chipi play on the emotional side and show the emotional part

00:04:59.620 of the emergency act inquiry what happened why were the protesters actually in ottawa she showed the

00:05:06.320 emotional side of the inquiry and i think that both miller and chipi created a created a great

00:05:13.700 combination together and were able to to achieve the goal of the freedom corp what do you think

00:05:18.600 but i would say but first of all i saw mr trudeau using a lot of speculation instead of basing his

00:05:26.080 statement on fact it was like but if a police officer will have been killed or a grandma who have been

00:05:34.720 i don't know like run over by a truck but this is speculation base yourself on fact what really happened

00:05:43.520 did that happen did really do you really think that this was going to happen oh i'm sorry

00:05:50.040 a woman was trampled by a horse but that was not from the convoy that was from the police you didn't

00:05:56.880 mention it but anyway um it was really interesting to see the commissioner needed to intervene of the

00:06:05.400 the audience because the audience was laughing or reacting to what mr lago and lago i'm in quebec

00:06:12.880 now trudeau wrong tyrant the escape will come later but um the fact that the commissioner needed to say

00:06:24.160 please stop bluffing and reacting to uh mr trudeau statement or we will enforce it so afterwards like

00:06:35.100 people get back to to calm but it was kind of a different energy the place was packed not the single

00:06:44.460 seat for the audience was available some people were waiting online outside in case that some place was

00:06:52.200 available because if you were leaving the place someone were capable to take your place and the

00:06:58.560 security was enforced and we were scanned at the beginning we were searched by dog and mr trudeau

00:07:05.420 didn't pass by the normal place that witness usually passed it was just it just sneaked in on the back

00:07:13.340 and it just disappeared afterwards like for making sure that nobody had the chance to ask questions or to

00:07:20.140 challenge him with other questions afterwards well you know people were waiting outside but they also

00:07:25.120 opened a second auditorium in the commission in the back where the lawyers usually go from what i

00:07:31.060 understand for people to watch the commission inside the building so i'd say there was probably

00:07:36.340 around what 70 people a little bit more inside the commission room then there were probably 10 to 15

00:07:41.420 people consistently waiting outside the commission and there were probably around 20 people in the

00:07:46.320 auditorium it was huge today uh efron tells me that my microphone is clicking again and uh i just want

00:07:53.980 to apologize if anybody at home is experiencing that it's a skype issue it's not a microphone it seems

00:07:58.740 fine to me okay great hopefully hopefully it's good because uh even when i listen to the playback i'm

00:08:04.660 like sheila gosh you're annoying let's um let's go straight into uh some of these clips

00:08:11.000 um because justin trudeau you know what he's like he likes to be the bride at every wedding and the

00:08:17.540 corpse at every funeral and today he was uh fashionably late but i would say it was more

00:08:23.180 like obnoxious let's roll clip one please

00:08:25.660 blijf

00:08:28.120 so

00:08:29.320 well

00:08:38.620 i don't know

00:08:43.160 i don't know

00:08:44.320 is

00:08:44.600 no

00:08:45.320 i don't know

00:08:47.920 it's

00:08:48.660 amazing

00:08:49.820 great

00:08:50.320 bob

00:08:52.060 i

00:08:52.320 and

00:08:53.160 wow

00:08:53.700 wow

00:08:55.080 Um, maybe we'll take a few minutes, uh, I'm not sure where, what process is, a bit anti-climactic.

00:09:09.380 Um, so...

00:09:11.380 Should we take five minutes?

00:09:16.760 I think we'll take five minutes then and see, and you can come and get me when it is.

00:09:22.160 Thank you.

00:09:22.800 The Commission is in recent for five minutes, and the Commission on every per second minute.

00:09:30.300 Go ahead, it's a, it's just a bit of a false start.

00:09:39.200 It was so funny to see his face when he entered and everybody was going to stand and maybe

00:09:44.600 do something and it was just like looking at everybody like, and it was like, do you realize

00:09:50.880 you're late and everybody was waiting for you?

00:09:53.380 Oh, of course he realized he was late.

00:09:55.380 He doesn't care.

00:09:56.380 He doesn't care about anybody's time.

00:09:58.380 He doesn't care about respecting the Commission's time.

00:10:00.380 He knows that these guys are on a tight timeline.

00:10:03.380 By him being late, uh, a lawyer didn't get to ask an extra question because he's got to keep

00:10:08.680 her on a tight timeline and he, Trudeau doesn't care.

00:10:10.880 Yeah.

00:10:12.880 Well, here's the thing though.

00:10:14.880 Trudeau was at the Commission 40 minutes before the beginning of the inquiry.

00:10:19.880 He snuck in the back.

00:10:20.880 We saw the three government SUV go in the front, stop at the front.

00:10:25.380 I thought, oh, well, he's going to enter in the public entrance and we'll be able to actually

00:10:29.380 film him.

00:10:30.380 But no, those three same SUVs continued.

00:10:33.380 Surprisingly, a few minutes afterwards, he was inside the commission, but he was there

00:10:36.880 40 minutes early and he still found a way to show up in the actual room 20, about, about

00:10:45.180 40 to 40 seconds to a minute late, uh, later than he wants it.

00:10:49.380 Then he was supposed to, that's our, that's cause that's our national drama teacher.

00:10:53.380 I think it's a, his version of a power move to make sure that, you know, everything's running

00:11:00.380 on his time.

00:11:01.380 I'm going to skip ahead, Olivia, and we're going to go to clip four.

00:11:04.380 Cause I know we have a gazillion clips.

00:11:06.380 And, um, as I said, I don't have the psychic energy for this today.

00:11:11.380 I had to listen to Justin Trudeau talk for like eight hours straight.

00:11:14.380 Um, let's go to clip four.

00:11:16.380 I know you guys did too.

00:11:17.380 Uh, let's go to clip four.

00:11:19.380 Um, Justin Trudeau said the quiet part out loud, and then he realized that he had said

00:11:24.380 something stupid and, uh, since he is a buffoon, he tried to fix it by making it worse.

00:11:30.380 Um, let's go to clip four.

00:11:33.380 But in terms of, uh, responding to their demands, uh, or, or legitimizing them by engaging, I'm

00:11:42.380 highlighting that I'm worried about setting a precedent, uh, that a blockade on Wellington

00:11:46.380 Street can, can lead to changing public policy.

00:11:49.380 People need to be heard.

00:11:50.380 Uh, but we need to get that balance right.

00:11:53.380 Uh, and then, uh, she agreed that I need to be cautious and I don't want to set any bad

00:11:57.380 precedents.

00:11:58.380 Okay.

00:11:59.380 So fairly self-explanatory.

00:12:00.380 There's, there's a, a willingness to, to discuss, but you, you were concerned about

00:12:05.380 setting a precedent where, uh, a blockade could equal a, a, a change in public policy.

00:12:11.380 Is that fair?

00:12:12.380 Yeah.

00:12:13.380 Uh, I mean, I think we, we have, uh, a robust functioning democracy and, uh, protests, public

00:12:21.380 protests are an important part of making sure we're getting messages out there and Canadians

00:12:26.380 are getting messages out there and highlighting how they feel about various issues.

00:12:29.380 Uh, but using protests to demand, uh, changes to public policy, um, is something that, that

00:12:39.380 I think is, is, is worrisome.

00:12:41.380 Okay.

00:12:42.380 Thank you.

00:12:43.380 Well, sorry, to a certain.

00:12:44.380 No, no, please go on.

00:12:45.380 Yeah.

00:12:46.380 Protests.

00:12:47.380 If you're out protesting that the government is, you know, shutting down a, a safe injection

00:12:50.380 site or something, you are asking for changes in, in public policy.

00:12:53.380 But there is a difference between, uh, occupations, uh, and, and, and, you know, saying we're not

00:13:02.380 going until this has changed, uh, in a way that is massively disruptive, uh, and potentially

00:13:08.380 dangerous, uh, versus just saying, yeah, we're protesting because we want, uh, we want public

00:13:14.380 policy to change and we're trying to convince people to get enough of them that politicians

00:13:18.380 will listen to enough people saying, okay, uh, I'm going to lose votes if I don't change

00:13:22.380 this.

00:13:23.380 Uh, that's the usual way, uh, protests, uh, uh, can be effective in, in our democracies.

00:13:32.380 What an idiot.

00:13:33.380 What a, what an absolute idiot.

00:13:35.380 Like he, first he says, you shouldn't, you shouldn't protest to change public policy.

00:13:41.380 That's literally the, the main reason people protest, especially the government is for a

00:13:48.380 change in public policy.

00:13:50.380 And then when he goes to correct himself, cause even he realized, Hey, that's a really

00:13:54.380 stupid thing I just said, but when he tries to fix it, he does something extra because

00:14:01.380 then all of a sudden he says, um, not all protests are bad, just the ones that disagree, that disagree

00:14:09.380 with my progressive viewpoint.

00:14:11.380 And you can come to that conclusion based on the example that he gives.

00:14:14.380 So first he says, no, you can't be protesting for a change in public policy out there.

00:14:18.380 What do you people think you're doing?

00:14:19.380 And then he says, Oh no, wait, that's a bad idea.

00:14:21.380 If you want to protest, um, let's say, uh, because the government's closing a safe injection

00:14:27.380 site where you can give yourself poison, uh, to put yourself in an early grave, that's fine.

00:14:34.380 So as long as you're protesting for things that Justin Trudeau disagrees or that he agrees

00:14:39.380 with, that's not worrisome.

00:14:41.380 Um, so yeah, when he tried to fix it, he made it worse.

00:14:44.380 But I think that's the story of the prime minister in general.

00:14:49.380 And by the way, I don't know if you realize, but through the old commission, everybody have

00:14:58.380 different date where the emergencies act was actually bring it up for maybe a potential

00:15:05.380 strategy.

00:15:06.380 Some people have like, uh, say that it was on the 4th of February.

00:15:10.380 Today, Justin Trudeau, we're talking about the 10th of February that really begin to talk

00:15:15.380 about the emergencies are saying that in the same day, he say that it was at the beginning,

00:15:21.380 an idea to stop the blockade.

00:15:25.380 So who is lying or who is not telling the truth there?

00:15:30.380 They're like, they are, um, contradicting themselves.

00:15:36.380 The more they talk.

00:15:37.380 So Justin Trudeau says the 10th, but then he said it was an idea from the very beginning.

00:15:41.380 I think that's a clip six.

00:15:43.380 We can throw to this.

00:15:45.380 And then I have just some quick notes about what some of the other, uh, snake cabinet

00:15:50.380 ministers said throughout the week, what their timelines were.

00:15:53.380 And it's so weird because they're all sitting in the same cabinet meetings and all saying

00:15:57.380 different things.

00:15:58.380 So, um, let's go to clip six if you wouldn't mind, Olivia.

00:16:02.380 Et cetera.

00:16:03.380 And I'm wondering if you can describe if someone asked you, um, when did the emergencies act

00:16:09.380 come into play as a possibility?

00:16:11.380 Uh, how would you answer that?

00:16:13.380 Oh, as, as an idea, um, it would have been from the very beginning in the back of our minds.

00:16:20.380 As you see a situation that, um, is an emergency, is out of control, is, has a potential for real impact

00:16:30.380 on citizens, potential for violence, uh, real concerns about what's going on, not just in Ottawa,

00:16:36.380 but right across the country, uh, at the Coutts blockade that started up, uh, on the same first weekend, uh,

00:16:43.380 that the Ottawa, uh, occupation did.

00:16:46.380 These are the things that, um, you say, okay, as we look at a whole range of potential outcomes in this,

00:16:57.380 there might be a moment where we have to invoke the emergencies act.

00:17:04.380 That, that made me almost laugh because afterwards he was talking about, uh,

00:17:09.380 but we needed to have the emergencies act for accompanying the toy truck.

00:17:14.380 And I was just like, did you, did you use that?

00:17:16.380 Because nobody wanted to comply to the fact that you wanted them to do the dirty job,

00:17:23.380 but nobody wanted to do it. So you had the trouble to make them compelling to what you asked.

00:17:29.380 Yeah. And so you decided to take the emergencies act.

00:17:32.380 Well, well, well, not only that, that, that's what I was just looking at on my phone.

00:17:36.380 I was trying to find section two, the CSIS Act.

00:17:38.380 And Justin Trudeau mentioned the potential for violence or the potential for...

00:17:42.380 It's not potential, is it?

00:17:44.380 ...activities. Well, that's what I was just looking at, the CSIS Act.

00:17:47.380 And I see section A, escenario sabotage.

00:17:50.380 Uh, the B, foreign influence activity.

00:17:53.380 C, activities within or relating to Canada directed towards

00:17:57.380 or in support of a threat or use of acts of serious violence.

00:18:01.380 And D, activities directed towards undermining by a covered, unlawful act

00:18:06.380 or directed towards or intended ultimately to lead to destruction

00:18:09.380 or overthrowing of the government.

00:18:12.380 Nowhere here you see the potential for an unlawful or violent activity.

00:18:18.380 Smart young man.

00:18:20.380 Because then, as soon as, as soon as someone walks around in the street

00:18:24.380 and I see a car coming at me, but I know there's a red light.

00:18:28.380 I guess I'll just call Justin and I'll tell him, Justin, can you please invoke the emergency?

00:18:32.380 Because I feel there's a potential for me to be hurt by the car.

00:18:36.380 The car might run me over.

00:18:38.380 Justin Trudeau is not a lawyer, even though he tried to act like a lawyer.

00:18:42.380 Justin Trudeau did a lot of, said a lot of false things.

00:18:44.380 The drama teacher.

00:18:45.380 Yeah.

00:18:46.380 He's our national drama teacher.

00:18:48.380 He said a lot of false things today at the commission.

00:18:51.380 I don't think he had a proper understanding of the law.

00:18:53.380 And I think the way he was trying to phrase this, he tried to reframe the law to make it fit his narrative.

00:19:00.380 But whenever Chipyuk or Brendan Miller or Alan Hawner, who I see is in the RBNB right now,

00:19:05.380 go on the stand and actually ask questions.

00:19:08.380 They're able to set the record straight.

00:19:10.380 And those are the cross-examinations that I feel are most relevant for you to watch.

00:19:14.380 Yeah, I mean, Justin Trudeau said it was a consideration from the beginning.

00:19:17.380 Then he said it was February 10th.

00:19:19.380 Bill Blair told Global News before forgetting that he told Global News that he wanted to invoke from the very beginning.

00:19:25.380 Yeah, it's Bill Blair amnesia and it was contagious.

00:19:28.380 Everybody caught it in the cabinet meetings.

00:19:30.380 It's worse than COVID.

00:19:32.380 Then we've got David Lamedi about 30 hours into the convoy.

00:19:38.380 He was saying, maybe we should use the Emergencies Act on these people.

00:19:43.380 Or a tank.

00:19:44.380 You forgot that tank.

00:19:45.380 Or a tank.

00:19:46.380 Why not?

00:19:47.380 Maybe we could drive over them with a tank.

00:19:50.380 There was a lot of peaks into Justin Trudeau's mind.

00:19:55.380 And nobody wants to do that.

00:19:57.380 But we got paid to do it today, so we did it.

00:20:00.380 I think it's clip 13, where he is going through, in obscene minutiae, just the soul-sucking conversation that he made us all sit through, that he was having with himself.

00:20:14.380 So he's having this internal back and forth with himself.

00:20:18.380 But hey, Justin, should we do this?

00:20:20.380 I don't know, dude.

00:20:21.380 Would it be cool?

00:20:22.380 Why don't we skateboard to work?

00:20:24.380 Just nonsense.

00:20:26.380 It's clip 13, where he's going through the internal struggle he would have us believe that he had to put up with before he invoked the Emergencies Act, like anybody believes any of this BS.

00:20:37.380 Anyway, it's 13.

00:20:39.380 You felt bad.

00:20:40.380 And I reflected briefly on, first of all, the reassurance that it gave me that the entire system, all the inputs in the system, had come up to the clerk of the Privy Council, the top public servant in Canada, impartial, professional public service, making the recommendation to move forward on this was essential to me.

00:21:07.380 But I also reflected on, okay, what if I don't sign it?

00:21:14.380 What if I say, okay, we now have advice from the professional public service to invoke a public order emergency?

00:21:21.380 And I decide, you know what, let's give it a few days, where the professional public service had made a determination that the thresholds were met, that the use of it was appropriate and, you know, responsible, and the measures were the right ones that we were going to put in it.

00:21:45.380 And I said, no, you know what, let's wait and see another few days, another week to see if we really need to do it.

00:21:54.380 As if it will have done that.

00:21:59.380 Right.

00:22:00.380 Right.

00:22:01.380 I wonder what I would do.

00:22:03.380 You know, Justin, let's sleep on it.

00:22:06.380 Let's pray on it, Justin.

00:22:07.380 Like, nobody thinks that he had a serious internal conversation, an internal dialogue with himself about invoking the Emergencies Act.

00:22:15.040 He said it was something he wanted to do from the very beginning.

00:22:17.500 He did it.

00:22:18.400 And now he's trying to rewrite the law to make it fit what he did.

00:22:21.840 That's what this, the whole 31 days comes down to.

00:22:25.660 31 days.

00:22:26.520 The government said at the very beginning, we're going to do this to these people.

00:22:30.900 Why?

00:22:31.640 Because we don't like what they're saying and they're embarrassing us.

00:22:34.820 And then now they're trying to gaslight us and rewrite history and make us think that the Emergencies Act says something that it definitely doesn't so that they can get away with invoking a wartime law on peaceful dissidents in the nation's capital like he's Hugo Chavez.

00:22:49.980 Yeah, well, I think rewriting history, because I know I only have a few minutes on, and I just want to touch on one point before I let Alan Hodder join the live stream.

00:23:00.940 Talking about writing history, rewriting history, the government of Canada, this is definitely what they're trying to do, and they're trying to do it in an unfair manner.

00:23:10.520 We keep seeing the pages of redacted documents.

00:23:14.660 We see literally complete pages of redacted documents.

00:23:18.080 For what reason?

00:23:18.880 Well, we see S-39, parliamentary privilege, S-37.

00:23:24.100 But the worst one out of all of them, in my opinion, is irrelevant.

00:23:29.300 Who are you to decide whether or not information is relevant?

00:23:32.460 And even if it's irrelevant, why should it not be put at the commission?

00:23:37.280 Today we saw Rob Kitteridge bring that point up.

00:23:40.120 There's the government of Canada who deemed a section of a document prior to today as being irrelevant.

00:23:46.320 And then today Rob Kitteridge brought that up, showed what they actually thought was relevant, and they were talking about tow trucks and about strategies to get more tow trucks and things in relation to tow trucks, which means that it was in direct relation to the emergency exact inquiry, to the emergency exact itself.

00:24:04.440 So the government is playing unfair games, and they're trying to rewrite history in an unfair manner.

00:24:09.400 And I'm sorry, just because of the redacted document that we're saying, I actually love so much when the lawyers say, you will agree that you want us to read the plan,

00:24:29.000 but you will also agree that we cannot read it, because it was just a big square blank.

00:24:39.760 There was more to that.

00:24:41.500 So that was the lawyer for the CCF, so the Canadian Constitution Foundation.

00:24:46.720 Justin Trudeau had said, I think it was, right? Is that right?

00:24:49.900 I think it was Rob Kitteridge from the GCCF.

00:24:52.600 No, there's another one.

00:24:53.880 No, there's another one.

00:24:55.100 We're talking about the police plan.

00:24:57.180 So Justin Trudeau had said earlier in his testimony, everybody should really read this police operational plan.

00:25:05.760 But then Justin Trudeau goes on to dismiss the operational plan as no real plan at all.

00:25:11.480 And then so the lawyer, I think it was for the CCF, could be the CCLA, but I think it's the CCF.

00:25:17.020 It's clip 22.

00:25:19.240 Yeah, it's clip 22.

00:25:21.320 Let's show that, because it's really something else.

00:25:23.860 Justin Trudeau says everybody should read this plan, but guess who didn't read the plan?

00:25:27.440 And there's no possible way he could have, because it's completely redacted, and he dismissed the plan as no plan.

00:25:36.100 And it's like, you didn't even read it.

00:25:37.520 What do you mean?

00:25:38.160 Like, it was just crazy.

00:25:39.960 But good for, I think, I'm 99% sure the lawyer for CCF.

00:25:44.640 Good for him for producing that and noticing that Justin Trudeau lied through his teeth earlier in the day.

00:25:49.500 It's clip 22, if you wouldn't mind.

00:26:01.220 I certainly had not read it on the 13th.

00:26:03.420 Okay.

00:26:03.980 And so I'd like to just, Mr. Registrar, I'd just like to walk the Prime Minister through the pages, not so he could read it because we don't have time, but just to point out that this is a heavily redacted document.

00:26:14.160 So page one is the cover page.

00:26:16.880 Page two is this signature page.

00:26:21.200 If we could go down.

00:26:22.140 Page three is a description of the situation and the mission.

00:26:25.880 And then, Mr. Registrar, if you could please scroll down.

00:26:28.520 The rest of this document has been redacted.

00:26:31.580 So that's page four, page five, page six, page seven, page eight.

00:26:37.820 So, Prime Minister, you said we should read this plan.

00:26:40.040 We can't.

00:26:41.500 It's within your legal authority to instruct your council to remove these redactions.

00:26:47.460 For the sake of the transparency of this commission, sir, would you consider that request?

00:26:52.120 I object to that.

00:26:53.120 On behalf of the Government of Canada, it's Brian Gover once again.

00:26:56.880 This is putting the Prime Minister in an odious position.

00:27:00.520 Prime Minister, can I put it to you this way?

00:27:02.080 You said we should read the plan, but I think you would agree we can't.

00:27:06.640 Indeed.

00:27:08.660 As I said, I haven't read the plan.

00:27:10.820 But we're in a situation where, as can be imagined, I have access to unredacted information.

00:27:20.720 And what I know and my understanding of this plan was, and I'm happy to testify to that,

00:27:26.340 that it was not a complete plan of engagement.

00:27:30.960 But he also didn't read it.

00:27:32.380 But he also didn't read it.

00:27:34.500 He's like, everybody should read the plan.

00:27:36.280 Okay.

00:27:37.080 Can we?

00:27:37.600 No, we're not going to remove those redactions.

00:27:41.380 Oh, also, you didn't read the plan?

00:27:42.840 No, but I understand it's incomplete.

00:27:44.640 And I'll testify to that.

00:27:45.880 How the hell do you know that?

00:27:47.820 It just touches on the whole unfairness and a completely absurd and ridiculous way that

00:27:56.140 the Government of Canada is conducting itself.

00:28:00.660 The DOJ is redacting those documents because they're irrelevant.

00:28:04.880 And we're seeing this plan.

00:28:06.800 That's a super important plan.

00:28:09.020 That's huge.

00:28:10.740 And we saw at least four pages of it.

00:28:13.800 Absolutely blank.

00:28:15.400 We're not able to read anything about it because our corrupt government is redacting all of it.

00:28:22.200 It's unbelievable.

00:28:22.780 And did you see the face of Justin Trudeau trying to not, like, starting to laugh out loud?

00:28:28.460 Like, he's just like...

00:28:30.420 He...

00:28:30.900 You know what?

00:28:31.980 I was just...

00:28:32.980 I was watching his face as, like, the lawyer is like, okay, we'll go on the first page.

00:28:37.800 Oh, and here's the table of contents.

00:28:39.840 Here's the cover page.

00:28:41.580 And then it rolls up to black.

00:28:43.340 Like, but, like, Justin Trudeau, when he's like, okay, well, here's the cover page.

00:28:46.680 And he's like, yep, yep.

00:28:47.960 Here's the...

00:28:49.060 Yep.

00:28:49.600 You know, as though he had seen it before, but he totally didn't.

00:28:53.100 And, like, here's the table of contents.

00:28:54.780 He's like, yep.

00:28:56.300 Again, as though he had seen it before, which he totally didn't.

00:28:59.860 And then there's just black pages.

00:29:04.280 He's so stupid.

00:29:05.760 He's so stupid.

00:29:07.020 I feel better now laughing at him.

00:29:09.420 Oh, yeah.

00:29:10.080 Better to laugh than cry.

00:29:11.780 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:12.240 I think it's a situation to laugh at a little bit.

00:29:15.280 Alyssa, I know that we have Alan Hawner on.

00:29:17.220 Yeah, let's get Alan.

00:29:18.680 In a few minutes.

00:29:20.080 But just before Alan comes on, I want to touch on the closing statements.

00:29:24.780 Because I don't think that a lot of people have seen it.

00:29:27.180 And I think that you left right before those happened.

00:29:29.440 Yeah, unfortunately.

00:29:29.980 And the closing statements were very interesting.

00:29:31.880 You saw, basically, the parties taking position on whether or not the use of the emergency

00:29:36.240 sector was necessary or not.

00:29:37.780 And there's some parties, like the city of Ottawa.

00:29:41.300 I'm not sure what their position was.

00:29:43.180 They didn't really specify a specific position.

00:29:45.920 Same for Windsor or the Ottawa police.

00:29:51.000 Yeah, Windsor Police Service as well.

00:29:52.900 However, the OPP said they would stay impartial.

00:29:56.000 Freedom Corp.

00:29:56.720 We all know what their position was.

00:29:58.140 They were against the emergency act.

00:29:59.920 And I suggest that everyone go take a look at Eva Chippieck's closing statement.

00:30:05.540 Yeah, I think we're going to post it in full on the website.

00:30:09.040 It was incredible.

00:30:10.180 You could tell she was starting to choke up a little bit.

00:30:12.700 She was the perfect bookend to Brendan Miller running hot all the time.

00:30:17.720 She was thoughtful.

00:30:20.000 She really spoke for the people who just wanted their prime minister to listen to them.

00:30:27.720 And she spoke to the hurt that caused them to go there.

00:30:32.520 And she said, these people were coming to Ottawa to protest the government's overreach.

00:30:40.000 And you know what the government did to them?

00:30:42.740 Overreached again on them.

00:30:44.620 She said the government chose force.

00:30:47.900 State violence.

00:30:50.320 Instead of peaceful engagement.

00:30:54.160 Every time.

00:30:55.400 Don't forget what Mr. Trudeau said.

00:30:57.560 Oh, I moved.

00:30:58.620 And I was moved.

00:30:59.920 And I was like, no, you're not moved.

00:31:03.200 He moved out to the cottage.

00:31:05.800 That's what he did.

00:31:06.500 As soon as they got there, he's like, I'm going to the cottage.

00:31:10.280 We're out of here.

00:31:10.820 Oops, I got COVID again.

00:31:12.040 It's that time again.

00:31:13.420 I got COVID.

00:31:14.380 And he moved out of town.

00:31:16.200 Yeah, he said that during the last cross-examination.

00:31:20.140 But yeah, to come back to the closing statements.

00:31:22.140 Government of Alberta firmly stated that they were against the use of the Immersion Act.

00:31:26.520 Government of Saskatchewan firmly stated against the use of the Immersion Act.

00:31:30.540 Government of Canada all in favor of the Immersion Act.

00:31:33.580 Because according to them, Keith Wilson admitted during his testimony that the protest quote-unquote attracted, what did they say, violence, ideologically motivated violence and violent group to Ottawa.

00:31:47.720 So according to them, it was all justified because of this alleged accusation.

00:31:51.920 Of course, well, as we said, the Immersion Act was not necessary, according to Freedom Corp.

00:31:56.260 And one last person that I want to touch on is the Indigenous group from British Columbia.

00:32:02.240 Well, I missed part of their cross-examination.

00:32:06.660 But in the part that I remember, they said that the use of the Immersion Act, the consultation that the government did prior to invoking the Immersion Act, they didn't take into consideration the Indigenous community.

00:32:23.960 And they had, quote-unquote, a lack of respect for the Indigenous community.

00:32:27.540 And here's the reason why that's funny.

00:32:29.740 Justin Trudeau keeps saying that he's the biggest purveyor of DEI.

00:32:33.180 He's the biggest feminist out there.

00:32:34.700 He's the most inclusive prime minister we've ever seen.

00:32:37.780 He loves Indigenous communities, even though he's not providing clean water to them.

00:32:41.680 He loves the Indigenous people.

00:32:43.420 And I've got the chief of the Indigenous chiefs, something like that, from British Columbia, who says that he had a disrespect for Indigenous communities.

00:32:53.960 So anyway, that was my rundown of the closing statements.

00:32:57.100 And I think shortly we'll be able to move on to Alan Hodder.

00:32:59.780 And I just need to specify that they got, like, some representatives from Saskatchewan and Alberta government take a cross-examination.

00:33:09.560 Like, they were there.

00:33:10.260 They asked questions.

00:33:11.400 But they were there, like, there when the Emergencies Act was deployed.

00:33:19.580 Either Ontario, Quebec, the ones who were there the most providing police and supporting the Emergencies Act, none of them came and talked.

00:33:35.280 Well, and they also, in the case of Quebec, they didn't invoke a state of emergency on their own.

00:33:45.640 So they didn't bother to take – again, the whole point of the Emergencies Act is you've ran out of tools.

00:33:53.200 Quebec didn't use the tools at their disposal.

00:33:55.380 They didn't use their level of emergency.

00:33:58.260 They just hit the nuclear button.

00:34:01.340 Well, seven out of all the provinces didn't use the Emergencies Act.

00:34:07.300 Yeah.

00:34:08.000 Seven of them.

00:34:08.980 Yeah.

00:34:10.160 So now I think it's time for changing guests.

00:34:14.120 Yeah, Alan Hodder.

00:34:15.020 Yeah.

00:34:16.020 Are you – which one of you is swapping out or are you both going?

00:34:19.400 I'll go sit on the couch and listen to you guys.

00:34:23.300 It was a long day, a long six weeks.

00:34:25.440 I believe it.

00:34:25.740 I've just recovered from my little sickness.

00:34:28.020 I'm able to speak today.

00:34:29.140 Yesterday, I wasn't able to.

00:34:30.640 And my throat is starting to hurt a little bit right now again.

00:34:33.100 So, yeah, it's been a fun, long, and interesting six weeks.

00:34:37.060 Yes, it has, William.

00:34:38.120 And thank you very much for your hard work.

00:34:40.320 You are a working journalist twice your age and holding some of the most powerful people in this country to account.

00:34:47.200 So, I'm really proud of the work that you've done over the course of the Trucker Commission.

00:34:52.500 But even before that, when you were cutting your teeth, doorstepping politicians to the point where now I think they're going to build a tunnel to get away from you.

00:35:02.040 They're going to burrow through the city streets.

00:35:03.820 I know, like a mole.

00:35:05.080 I'm like, that's William.

00:35:06.200 William did that.

00:35:06.900 Well, in all fairness, they started building the weird thing that's going to take more than 15 years to build prior to me starting to question Omar al-Jabra.

00:35:16.680 But they are actually building a tunnel between all the government building there.

00:35:20.600 But thanks for your words, Sheila.

00:35:22.460 Yes.

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00:38:29.820 Well, hello, Alan.

00:38:31.140 How's it going?

00:38:33.020 Hi, Sheila.

00:38:33.840 Great to be here.

00:38:35.640 Are you as glad as me that this is all over?

00:38:37.740 It is a relief.

00:38:41.220 It'll be a weekend off, and then I guess we'll move into drafting submissions.

00:38:46.460 Now, since you're a lawyer, I want to ask you, what was the one legal thing that stood out for you today?

00:38:52.140 I watched this through a layman's set of eyes.

00:38:55.080 For me, shocking once again that they're releasing documents in the middle of testimony of Justin Trudeau.

00:39:02.240 Documents related to his testimony were being released an hour into his testimony.

00:39:07.480 What was the one thing for you that really stuck out today?

00:39:10.560 Well, what I thought stuck out the most, it happened in the cross-examination of Justin Trudeau by the lawyer from the Canadian Civil Liberties Association.

00:39:18.740 And what she managed to do is to nail Justin Trudeau on the test, and on the test he considered when invoking the Emergencies Act.

00:39:28.460 Because, Sheila, as you might recall, we all thought we knew the test that was being used to invoke the Emergencies Act.

00:39:36.100 And then we got a surprise when we heard from the director of the National Security Intelligence Advisor and the clerk from the Privy Council.

00:39:46.660 And then, I don't know about you, Sheila, but I was quite surprised when I heard the director of CSIS say that he recommended the invocation of the Emergencies Act when he was simultaneously saying that it didn't meet the threshold under Section 2 of the CSIS Act.

00:40:03.280 So, we were all confused by that test, and we wanted an explanation, and what were they considering?

00:40:11.940 And I think that lawyer nailed down for the first time that, you know, whatever else, whatever, you know, maybe the context is the same, maybe the purpose is...

00:40:21.280 Sorry, the context might be different, the purpose might be different, the decision maker might be different, but the test is the same whether you're getting a wiretap under the CSIS Act or whether you're invoking a public order emergency under the Emergencies Act.

00:40:37.100 And that was the big breakthrough that we've seen today.

00:40:40.280 Yeah, because for the last, I would say, two weeks, they've really tried to sort of blur the lines between what we all thought the bar or benchmark was to invoke the Emergencies Act.

00:40:53.360 I think it was probably universally understood that it was Section 2 of the CSIS Act, and then that changed, didn't it?

00:41:02.620 Once we heard, okay, CSIS said, no, it didn't rise to that benchmark, then all of a sudden we're trying to change the definition of the Emergencies Act to fit what the Liberals had done after the fact.

00:41:17.220 Right, and, you know, you would read the CSIS Act, and then you would read the Emergencies Act,

00:41:22.000 and then you'd try and figure out, is there some contrary intention in this emergency act that I'm not seeing, and you read it over, and, you know, it's not just that, Sheila.

00:41:32.000 You're trying to figure out exactly what is their position, right?

00:41:34.900 You're trying to pin them down, and if you remember David Lamedi, the Minister of Justice, when he was testifying,

00:41:43.540 he wouldn't talk about the evidence that he gave to Cabinet, which we talked about before, and that's fair enough,

00:41:50.920 but how are we supposed to know what they really considered if we don't know that?

00:41:55.680 Yeah, and that was one of the things that I thought was really odd, and it came, I think the lawyer, we talked about it just briefly,

00:42:01.700 but I'll get your sort of legal opinion on it.

00:42:05.400 I think it was the lawyer for the CCF who showed Justin Trudeau that entirely redacted document,

00:42:12.340 that he told everybody earlier in the day, you should read it, except he also admitted that he didn't read it,

00:42:20.940 and then, you know, so the lawyer for the CCF says, well, if we should read it,

00:42:24.900 could you have your lawyer just remove those redactions?

00:42:28.120 And no, they opposed the release of that document.

00:42:35.340 Right, I mean, that was a masterful moment by the lawyer from the CCF.

00:42:39.980 Are you playing the clip, or should I comment on it?

00:42:43.560 No, you just go ahead and comment on it.

00:42:45.100 We played it already, but it was kind of funny because it's scrolling slow,

00:42:48.840 and then, oh, oopsie-daisy, there's all the black.

00:42:51.020 Right, so, and I believe that one was redacted for, well, it was redacted for, I'm not even sure,

00:43:05.320 I can't recall the privilege, it was perhaps, it was most likely solicitor-client privilege,

00:43:11.580 or, you know, to be honest, Sheila, I just don't remember, it's been such a busy day,

00:43:17.040 but it was a type of privilege that I think Trudeau could waive, and he refused to do it,

00:43:22.100 and, you know, and his lawyer objected, and objected rightly, but it was a,

00:43:27.360 it did send a certain message, and it was one of those fun moments at the commission.

00:43:34.780 Yeah, you know, let's show clip four, another fun moment in the commission,

00:43:39.280 if you think that your prime minister lying to you is fun.

00:43:42.220 And so, clip 24, it's in and around the time that a deal had been struck with the convoy

00:43:49.780 to alleviate some of the pressures on downtown.

00:43:53.280 And Justin Trudeau claimed that he became aware of it,

00:43:57.300 we've heard previous testimony that he was well aware of it, cabinet knew about it,

00:44:01.300 several people have testified to that, including, you know, his inner circle, but also police.

00:44:05.680 And he said that he was advised that the agreement wasn't holding.

00:44:12.980 But we didn't hear any testimony at all that the agreement wasn't holding.

00:44:16.520 In fact, we heard from, you know, city managers, Steve Kenilakos, from OPP,

00:44:22.680 that indeed they had moved 100 trucks in good faith, or 100 vehicles, sorry,

00:44:26.860 in good faith, out of the downtown core.

00:44:29.500 So the agreement definitely wasn't, or was holding, but Justin Trudeau just decided it wasn't,

00:44:35.840 and decried it as fake news.

00:44:38.480 Let's throw the, let's show that clip, because it's really something else,

00:44:41.480 because he's literally the only person who was saying that those trucks weren't moved.

00:44:45.640 Even the craziest councillor said those trucks were moved.

00:44:48.140 Let's go to clip 24.

00:44:49.500 And at the IRG meeting, you were advised that there were breakthrough,

00:44:54.880 there was a breakthrough agreement between the mayor of Ottawa and the convoy organizers

00:44:59.920 to move trucks out of the downtown residential areas.

00:45:02.840 Isn't that correct?

00:45:04.740 That is not how I remember it, no.

00:45:07.360 Okay, well, I can advise you that at the inquiry,

00:45:10.020 it was confirmed by the documents your officials filed here,

00:45:14.200 and by witnesses, namely Jody Thomas,

00:45:18.520 she confirmed that at that IRG meeting,

00:45:20.680 you were briefed that there was an agreement with the mayor.

00:45:23.920 Does that, do you recall that?

00:45:26.320 With whom?

00:45:28.320 With the mayor and who?

00:45:30.160 Some of the convoy organizers.

00:45:32.240 Which ones?

00:45:33.580 Well, Tamara Leach, who's present here in this room,

00:45:36.300 signed a letter, it was made publicly available

00:45:38.660 on the news

00:45:40.400 on Sunday, February 13th,

00:45:43.200 and you were advised of that agreement

00:45:46.760 at the IRG meeting.

00:45:48.640 And we were also advised

00:45:50.740 that that agreement wasn't holding

00:45:54.020 and that many of the convoy

00:45:56.020 had decried it as fake news

00:45:58.560 and not actually an agreement

00:46:00.520 that they would abide by.

00:46:01.720 And you learned that on Twitter, is that correct?

00:46:04.180 No, we learned that at the IRG.

00:46:06.560 By whom?

00:46:07.780 By our collected officials.

00:46:09.800 Thanks.

00:46:10.100 That's not what the officials said, is it?

00:46:17.160 Why don't you tell us, Sheila?

00:46:18.600 You've been following this so closely.

00:46:22.760 Well, it's true.

00:46:23.760 That is, the officials never said that.

00:46:25.460 They said,

00:46:26.540 Steve Canaleco,

00:46:27.660 people from the OPP said,

00:46:30.100 nope, they actually did move

00:46:32.080 a hundred vehicles,

00:46:33.600 some of the big trucks

00:46:34.680 and smaller vehicles.

00:46:35.800 And I think

00:46:36.420 one of our Airbnb friends

00:46:38.720 there today,

00:46:40.020 Tom Maratzo,

00:46:40.900 was instrumental

00:46:42.220 in doing those things.

00:46:43.560 And it was, in fact,

00:46:44.500 the invocation of the Emergencies Act

00:46:46.180 itself

00:46:46.780 that put an end to that

00:46:48.100 because it caused a redeployment

00:46:49.400 of police to the protest.

00:46:51.480 That's right.

00:46:52.800 You know,

00:46:53.120 it's really striking that,

00:46:55.260 you know,

00:46:56.640 in Ottawa,

00:46:57.960 things were really starting

00:46:59.240 to settle down.

00:47:01.100 Trucks were moving out

00:47:01.860 of the residential areas

00:47:02.900 onto Wellington.

00:47:03.720 Some of them moved,

00:47:04.620 some of them just left.

00:47:06.340 Right.

00:47:06.700 You'll recall that evidence.

00:47:07.660 And there was a plan in place.

00:47:12.400 Why was the Emergencies Act

00:47:13.940 invoked at that time?

00:47:16.200 It doesn't make sense.

00:47:17.740 It doesn't make sense

00:47:18.620 that it was invoked

00:47:19.480 when that was happening

00:47:20.380 in Ottawa,

00:47:21.540 when things had settled down,

00:47:24.020 the bridge had been cleared

00:47:25.300 in Windsor.

00:47:25.880 We all know that.

00:47:26.580 We've heard that many times now.

00:47:29.100 The situation in Cootes was,

00:47:31.960 we know from

00:47:34.080 the first minister's meeting

00:47:34.980 that it was about to resolve

00:47:36.060 as well.

00:47:36.520 They were about to take action

00:47:37.540 and it did resolve

00:47:38.260 the next day.

00:47:39.740 Right.

00:47:39.980 So why then?

00:47:41.500 That's sort of

00:47:42.620 an unanswered question,

00:47:43.660 isn't it?

00:47:45.260 Yeah,

00:47:45.800 it sure is.

00:47:46.760 And in fact,

00:47:47.540 you know,

00:47:47.880 we know the situation

00:47:49.040 in Windsor had resolved

00:47:50.240 right then

00:47:52.440 because all those

00:47:53.740 additional OPP officers

00:47:55.120 were redeployed

00:47:56.160 to Ottawa

00:47:57.000 to deal with the convoy

00:47:59.020 because Windsor had resolved.

00:48:01.620 Nobody is even

00:48:02.760 disputing that fact.

00:48:03.920 Everybody acknowledges

00:48:05.480 that the situation

00:48:07.160 in Windsor

00:48:07.820 had resolved.

00:48:09.200 You saw the note

00:48:10.560 from the first minister's

00:48:11.820 meeting today.

00:48:13.320 Justin Trudeau

00:48:13.980 was commenting

00:48:15.920 on what an amazing job

00:48:17.460 the police did in Windsor.

00:48:18.580 It was a complete success story.

00:48:20.500 Dana Early,

00:48:21.280 who was the superintendent,

00:48:22.640 who was also

00:48:23.860 a superintendent early,

00:48:25.360 she's a member

00:48:26.140 of the OPP.

00:48:27.040 She was the critical incident

00:48:28.100 commander in Windsor.

00:48:28.920 she received an award

00:48:31.200 for the job she did.

00:48:36.440 And, you know,

00:48:37.220 and afterwards

00:48:37.880 they had all those

00:48:38.660 concrete barriers

00:48:39.720 in place,

00:48:41.320 you know,

00:48:41.620 along,

00:48:42.300 I think it's called

00:48:43.180 here on Church Road.

00:48:45.320 And so I don't think

00:48:46.140 they had to be

00:48:46.740 too worried about,

00:48:48.520 they certainly didn't

00:48:49.700 have to be worried

00:48:50.220 about trucks

00:48:50.940 blocking the

00:48:52.620 Ambassador Bridge.

00:48:54.440 No.

00:48:54.940 And that was one

00:48:55.580 of the things

00:48:55.980 Justin Trudeau said.

00:48:57.000 Oh,

00:48:57.420 even though these

00:48:58.220 things were resolving,

00:48:59.820 we still needed

00:49:00.760 the Emergencies Act

00:49:01.700 to make sure

00:49:02.160 that they didn't

00:49:02.760 re-manifest

00:49:03.740 somewhere else.

00:49:05.720 He seemed to think

00:49:07.260 that the situation

00:49:08.380 wasn't improving,

00:49:10.220 which was,

00:49:10.840 to me,

00:49:11.580 that was contrary

00:49:12.340 to the evidence.

00:49:13.240 I think it was improving.

00:49:15.420 And, you know,

00:49:15.940 the biggest concern

00:49:17.020 was undoubtedly

00:49:18.500 the Ambassador Bridge.

00:49:20.280 And nobody is contesting

00:49:21.740 that that situation

00:49:23.220 hadn't resolved,

00:49:24.980 or at least

00:49:25.440 the crux

00:49:26.820 of the crisis

00:49:27.420 was passed.

00:49:30.000 Right.

00:49:30.760 Which leaves us

00:49:31.740 with revoking

00:49:32.800 or invoking

00:49:33.740 the Emergencies Act

00:49:34.700 because of inconvenience

00:49:36.040 in Ottawa.

00:49:37.500 Really.

00:49:40.440 Right.

00:49:41.160 And, you know,

00:49:41.580 I think that

00:49:42.180 it's very troubling.

00:49:45.400 You know,

00:49:45.620 we heard

00:49:46.080 a lot of evidence

00:49:47.560 early in the Commission

00:49:48.420 about how

00:49:49.260 the powers

00:49:52.060 from the Emergencies Act

00:49:53.200 were useful

00:49:54.580 but not necessary.

00:49:56.480 And a lot of this

00:49:57.500 is just because

00:49:58.100 of timing constraints,

00:49:59.380 but nobody really

00:50:00.360 challenged those witnesses

00:50:02.620 on how awful

00:50:03.640 that was.

00:50:05.120 You know,

00:50:05.240 it is quite useful

00:50:06.480 to take away

00:50:07.280 people's charter rights.

00:50:08.960 Yeah.

00:50:09.660 You know,

00:50:09.920 or, you know,

00:50:10.660 I always think

00:50:11.180 of the truck drivers

00:50:11.840 because I think

00:50:12.280 they were very much,

00:50:13.400 the tow truck drivers,

00:50:14.300 I think they were

00:50:14.700 so overlooked

00:50:15.320 because they were

00:50:16.220 compelled

00:50:16.720 to do something

00:50:18.140 that they didn't

00:50:19.280 believe in.

00:50:20.440 You know,

00:50:20.760 it was against

00:50:21.220 their moral beliefs,

00:50:22.100 it was against

00:50:22.580 their political beliefs,

00:50:23.540 they were compelled

00:50:24.120 into servitude

00:50:25.000 and that is so degrading.

00:50:26.660 But it was very useful

00:50:28.000 to be able to compel

00:50:28.940 those tow truck drivers.

00:50:30.580 And maybe that didn't happen.

00:50:31.760 You know,

00:50:31.940 we heard that

00:50:32.460 it didn't actually happen.

00:50:33.700 They didn't actually

00:50:34.320 have to compel anyone.

00:50:35.640 But that's beside the point.

00:50:37.600 That's what the measure

00:50:38.860 allowed for, right?

00:50:40.140 And that's what's

00:50:40.720 so offensive.

00:50:41.940 And I think it'll be

00:50:42.700 a stain

00:50:43.280 on our history.

00:50:45.140 That's something

00:50:45.740 that we just,

00:50:47.080 you know,

00:50:48.500 we thought,

00:50:49.440 well,

00:50:50.460 it would be,

00:50:51.180 you know,

00:50:51.460 there's something

00:50:51.860 that Trudeau said today.

00:50:52.780 He said it would be

00:50:53.480 useful to be able

00:50:54.700 to compel tow truck drivers.

00:50:56.840 And at one point

00:50:57.520 when he said that,

00:50:58.180 he said,

00:50:58.560 you know,

00:50:58.880 to fulfill their contracts.

00:51:00.380 But it wasn't just

00:51:02.280 to compel people

00:51:02.900 to fulfill their contracts.

00:51:04.640 It was more universal

00:51:06.440 than that.

00:51:07.820 Yeah,

00:51:08.180 he was,

00:51:08.720 it was to indenture

00:51:09.940 those people

00:51:10.920 as tools of the state.

00:51:12.240 And I know

00:51:14.040 Hatim Kare

00:51:15.200 from the JCCF

00:51:16.780 really hammered

00:51:18.080 the ministers

00:51:19.380 the other day

00:51:20.040 on that issue

00:51:21.000 of,

00:51:22.520 did you ever have

00:51:23.280 any consideration

00:51:24.200 for the charter rights

00:51:25.320 of tow truck drivers

00:51:26.220 that you

00:51:27.260 press ganged

00:51:29.440 into servitude

00:51:30.360 against their will

00:51:31.660 and often against

00:51:32.620 against their conscience?

00:51:34.520 That's right.

00:51:35.320 He and I were talking

00:51:36.000 about that

00:51:36.400 throughout the inquiry

00:51:37.060 and we were trying

00:51:37.480 to figure out,

00:51:37.960 well,

00:51:38.060 where can we get this in?

00:51:40.260 And,

00:51:40.500 you know,

00:51:40.880 you only have

00:51:41.920 so much time

00:51:42.620 with every witness

00:51:43.440 and when,

00:51:44.720 and he did such

00:51:45.460 a good job of that

00:51:46.280 and was so happy

00:51:47.180 to see him

00:51:47.940 bring that point

00:51:49.720 home very clearly.

00:51:51.800 So,

00:51:52.440 what's left

00:51:53.500 to do

00:51:54.180 with this commission?

00:51:55.680 What,

00:51:55.900 what are the next steps?

00:51:57.020 Who's doing what now?

00:51:58.780 Well,

00:51:59.260 so the next,

00:52:00.400 there are two major steps.

00:52:02.140 So,

00:52:02.400 for the parties,

00:52:03.960 like the Democracy Fund,

00:52:05.760 the JCCF,

00:52:06.640 Citizens for Freedom,

00:52:08.200 we're going to be

00:52:09.320 concentrating on

00:52:10.220 written submissions.

00:52:10.880 Now,

00:52:11.960 you've,

00:52:12.200 you,

00:52:12.400 perhaps you've heard

00:52:13.540 some submissions today.

00:52:14.800 They were five minutes each.

00:52:16.400 Those aren't the real submissions.

00:52:17.860 The parties were just asked

00:52:18.920 to put something together

00:52:19.940 to assist the commissioner

00:52:22.060 because he has a huge amount

00:52:24.220 of work to do.

00:52:25.520 And this,

00:52:26.480 the written submissions

00:52:27.120 are not due until the night,

00:52:28.420 but I think this will help him,

00:52:30.300 help him to stay quite productive

00:52:33.120 in that interim period.

00:52:35.440 And there will also be

00:52:36.500 a policy phase.

00:52:38.520 And,

00:52:38.800 you know,

00:52:40.160 Sheila,

00:52:40.460 I think I'm,

00:52:42.200 myself,

00:52:42.960 I'm quite worried

00:52:43.780 about the policy phase.

00:52:45.320 Me too.

00:52:45.680 I think,

00:52:46.360 you know,

00:52:46.660 I think even if we

00:52:48.940 had a favorable result

00:52:51.200 in the commission

00:52:51.800 and if the commissioner said

00:52:53.000 this,

00:52:54.720 you know,

00:52:55.380 the invocation was not justified,

00:52:57.740 we could get some very bad

00:52:59.180 policy

00:53:00.020 recommendations

00:53:02.580 coming out of this,

00:53:03.640 this commission.

00:53:05.440 We've,

00:53:05.740 we've seen some of the things

00:53:07.100 that the other parties want,

00:53:08.500 right?

00:53:08.780 They want to clamp down

00:53:09.880 on what they say

00:53:10.620 is misinformation.

00:53:12.260 But that's,

00:53:13.080 that's a dangerous thing

00:53:14.200 because who determines

00:53:15.040 what is misinformation?

00:53:17.840 I think they're probably

00:53:19.000 going to want to make,

00:53:20.500 some people will probably

00:53:21.540 want to make the

00:53:22.520 emergencies act more flexible

00:53:24.680 and easier to invoke.

00:53:26.500 And I don't think

00:53:26.980 that should happen either.

00:53:28.880 No,

00:53:29.460 I think it should,

00:53:30.220 I think it should be

00:53:31.120 even more clear

00:53:32.020 and more difficult.

00:53:34.500 And that is my concern too,

00:53:36.420 is they're going to see

00:53:37.300 the recommendations

00:53:37.980 of the commissioner,

00:53:38.840 the findings of the commissioner

00:53:40.000 and then change

00:53:41.640 the law itself

00:53:42.860 to make it easier

00:53:44.500 to invoke.

00:53:45.280 And we've,

00:53:45.860 we're bordering

00:53:46.740 on normalizing

00:53:47.900 invoking this thing.

00:53:49.340 We heard today

00:53:49.920 that Justin Trudeau

00:53:50.780 wanted to invoke it

00:53:52.020 to deal with the pandemic

00:53:52.960 and the first minister

00:53:53.940 sort of talked him out of it

00:53:55.780 and he couldn't be talked

00:53:57.260 out of it

00:53:57.660 this next time around,

00:53:58.960 it sounds like.

00:54:00.120 And so I'm very concerned

00:54:01.860 about making this thing

00:54:04.720 easier to invoke

00:54:06.480 because they don't,

00:54:08.440 they haven't had

00:54:09.000 even a moment

00:54:09.860 of sober second thought.

00:54:11.560 There's not even

00:54:12.320 a single person

00:54:13.000 expressing any sort of regret

00:54:14.620 for how Canadians

00:54:16.060 were treated

00:54:16.580 in all of this.

00:54:19.920 Yeah, yeah, that's right.

00:54:21.660 And, you know,

00:54:22.060 I would like to see,

00:54:23.400 I would actually like to see

00:54:24.440 the act clarified.

00:54:26.800 Yeah.

00:54:27.060 You know, because when,

00:54:27.840 when you read that section

00:54:29.120 of the Seasons Act,

00:54:30.420 when you read section 2C,

00:54:31.980 which we've been so focused on,

00:54:34.100 you know, it talks about,

00:54:35.520 you know,

00:54:36.160 acts of serious violence

00:54:38.300 and threats

00:54:39.820 of serious violence.

00:54:42.180 But it's really,

00:54:42.980 it's quite close

00:54:44.220 to the definition

00:54:45.040 of terrorism

00:54:45.740 and set out

00:54:46.360 in the criminal code.

00:54:48.240 Right.

00:54:48.320 And that's a very high threshold.

00:54:49.920 And when we think about

00:54:51.100 what happened in Ottawa,

00:54:52.780 we don't think about

00:54:54.020 that as terrorism,

00:54:55.240 do we?

00:54:55.700 Most people don't.

00:54:57.540 And if that was,

00:54:58.680 if that's,

00:54:59.480 you know,

00:55:00.120 there were documents,

00:55:01.220 there were Seasons documents

00:55:02.120 and that's how they kind of

00:55:03.280 referred to that area.

00:55:05.000 You know,

00:55:05.420 they,

00:55:06.140 I'm guessing here

00:55:07.360 that they just have

00:55:08.040 their own convenient way

00:55:09.260 of referring to it

00:55:10.140 and they call it terrorism

00:55:11.400 and extremist violence.

00:55:16.440 Right.

00:55:16.500 But that's not what was happening.

00:55:18.040 We didn't see that.

00:55:19.800 No.

00:55:20.340 And I would,

00:55:20.960 I would like to see

00:55:21.800 even that section itemized.

00:55:24.560 It even feels a little

00:55:26.140 just too vague

00:55:27.020 as it is right there

00:55:28.320 when threats of serious violence.

00:55:29.740 I've listened to people

00:55:30.780 tell me that honking

00:55:32.060 is violence

00:55:32.740 during this commission.

00:55:35.200 So I would like to see

00:55:36.220 that just tightened up

00:55:37.460 with a little,

00:55:38.400 a few more specifics.

00:55:39.560 Right.

00:55:42.620 It is,

00:55:43.240 there's,

00:55:44.440 it doesn't really help

00:55:45.780 when we,

00:55:47.420 we take a word

00:55:48.960 and it sort of changes

00:55:50.220 its meaning,

00:55:51.900 right?

00:55:52.200 It really waters down

00:55:53.680 the concept

00:55:55.060 and we,

00:55:56.260 you know,

00:55:57.020 we've been doing that

00:55:57.880 for a long time

00:55:58.600 but now we see

00:55:59.480 the effect it can have

00:56:01.580 in real life.

00:56:03.600 Yeah.

00:56:04.100 The real life consequences.

00:56:05.840 Yeah.

00:56:06.140 I think,

00:56:06.700 I think you're right.

00:56:07.500 We should clarify that.

00:56:08.320 And you know,

00:56:08.800 I,

00:56:09.340 there is a case

00:56:10.240 from the,

00:56:10.660 the Ontario Court of Appeal.

00:56:12.900 It came out

00:56:13.340 a little while ago

00:56:14.440 and I can't remember

00:56:15.400 exactly right now.

00:56:17.640 The name of the case

00:56:18.580 escapes me

00:56:19.960 and part of the reason

00:56:20.940 is because I'm just

00:56:21.520 thinking about it

00:56:21.960 on the spot

00:56:22.400 but they,

00:56:22.960 they looked at the,

00:56:23.840 the definition

00:56:24.300 of free expression

00:56:25.440 and you might be aware,

00:56:26.900 Sheila,

00:56:27.220 that violence

00:56:27.720 is an exception

00:56:28.540 to free expression.

00:56:30.460 Expression protects

00:56:31.380 anything that conveys meaning,

00:56:33.280 right?

00:56:33.520 That falls within the ambit

00:56:34.500 but not violence.

00:56:35.960 But the,

00:56:36.420 the Court of Appeal judge

00:56:37.620 in that case

00:56:38.180 who wrote the decision

00:56:39.080 made this distinction

00:56:39.960 and he said,

00:56:40.320 no,

00:56:40.440 no.

00:56:40.980 But when we're talking

00:56:41.560 about violence,

00:56:42.060 we're talking about

00:56:42.580 physical acts

00:56:44.020 of violence.

00:56:45.040 We're not talking

00:56:45.920 about words.

00:56:47.940 Right.

00:56:48.560 Right.

00:56:48.760 So there's,

00:56:49.240 there is some good precedent

00:56:50.240 out there

00:56:50.580 but we got to make sure

00:56:51.480 that it stays that way.

00:56:55.080 Right.

00:56:55.780 Right.

00:56:56.060 I don't think we need

00:56:57.020 the university humanities

00:56:59.180 student definition

00:57:01.320 of violence

00:57:02.520 creeping into

00:57:03.220 our legal system.

00:57:04.720 Alan,

00:57:05.020 I want to thank you

00:57:05.680 so much for the hard work

00:57:06.580 that you've been doing

00:57:07.280 and hopefully

00:57:08.880 you can take

00:57:09.300 a little bit

00:57:09.680 of a breather

00:57:10.280 as we move

00:57:11.180 into this next phase

00:57:12.180 and just thank

00:57:13.920 your family

00:57:14.420 for letting us

00:57:15.760 borrow you

00:57:16.440 in the fight

00:57:16.860 for freedom

00:57:17.320 for so long.

00:57:18.840 Well,

00:57:18.980 thanks,

00:57:19.320 Sheila.

00:57:19.540 It's a pleasure

00:57:19.920 to be here.

00:57:21.180 Yeah,

00:57:21.460 thanks.

00:57:22.620 Olivia,

00:57:23.080 let's go to an ad

00:57:23.780 so we can let

00:57:24.360 Alan lead the set.

00:57:25.420 Please,

00:57:25.680 and we'll bring on Tom.

00:57:26.700 Thanks,

00:57:27.060 Alan.

00:57:27.220 Thanks,

00:57:27.300 Alan.

00:57:27.320 Good morning.

00:57:42.740 Thank you.

00:57:43.740 Thank you.

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00:59:12.740 Oh, hi, Tom.

00:59:16.740 How's it going?

00:59:17.740 I am a little sad that our fast friendship over the convoy will be sort of...

00:59:26.740 I don't want to say it's going to be put on ice, but we're not going to see you every day.

00:59:30.740 No, no.

00:59:31.740 This is my last show.

00:59:33.740 I hope we can figure out something else to keep you around.

00:59:37.740 Yeah, I hope so, too.

00:59:39.740 I guess that's my job.

00:59:40.740 That was a lot of fun.

00:59:41.740 You guys are a lot of fun.

00:59:43.740 Now, I want to talk to you about the final day of the commission.

00:59:47.740 And as I was saying to the kids, I say kids because William's involved.

00:59:53.740 But it felt longer than 31 days, but also shorter than 31 days somehow simultaneously.

01:00:01.740 Honestly, it's very strange.

01:00:03.740 But I think today the star of the show, as I said at the beginning, was Eva Chipiak.

01:00:08.740 Yes.

01:00:09.740 The perfect tone.

01:00:11.740 And she decided that she was going to take her time to make sure that the people who

01:00:16.740 went to Ottawa to be heard by their prime minister were at least able to be heard by

01:00:21.740 him.

01:00:22.740 And he couldn't squirm, he couldn't run away, and he couldn't call them names.

01:00:26.740 He couldn't...

01:00:27.740 Yeah.

01:00:28.740 And the worst part was he tried to say, I didn't call them names, which he definitely

01:00:31.740 did every opportunity that he had.

01:00:33.740 But I mean, Eva really put it to him, these are the people you hurt.

01:00:39.740 Yes.

01:00:40.740 And he decided to do an ad for Pfizer instead of actually listening and acknowledging the

01:00:45.740 pain he caused.

01:00:47.740 Yeah.

01:00:48.740 And you know what, we were all so proud of Eva at the end of that.

01:00:53.740 Yeah.

01:00:54.740 And I can speak from, you know, I'd like to be able to say I'm speaking as her client,

01:01:00.740 right?

01:01:01.740 But it's not that.

01:01:02.740 It's a deep friendship that I've been fortunate to be part of with Eva and Keith and a lot of

01:01:11.740 other people that were part of the convoy.

01:01:13.740 And every day, Keith and Eva were there with us during the convoy, you know, when they

01:01:18.740 got involved.

01:01:19.740 And I'm so proud of Eva for how she did that.

01:01:24.740 And she was the perfect person to go and deliver that message today.

01:01:29.740 Like, we kind of looked at the whole legal team today and said, okay, who's the best to

01:01:35.740 go and deliver a message on behalf of Canadians that we didn't get to deliver to Justin Trudeau

01:01:42.740 last February when we were begging for it.

01:01:45.740 And Eva was the perfect person to go and deliver that message.

01:01:49.740 And that's why, you know, the team as a team, we all decided that, you know, today is not

01:01:55.740 about the legal arguments because Brendan Miller had done a great job.

01:01:59.740 He brought us to the one yard line, but it took somebody like Eva to really put the ball

01:02:05.740 into the end zone and she delivered it like a master.

01:02:10.740 Well, we know how Justin Trudeau feels about, you know how he feels about smart, powerful

01:02:15.740 women that he can't control, right?

01:02:17.740 They tie him in a real knot.

01:02:19.740 Absolutely.

01:02:20.740 And I'm sure he was excessively uncomfortable today.

01:02:22.740 He prides himself on being a feminist except until he runs up against a woman who's far smarter

01:02:28.740 than him.

01:02:29.740 And that's what happened to him today.

01:02:31.740 So that's exactly what happened to him today.

01:02:34.740 And you know what I, what I loved about it is that Eva really made him confront the harms

01:02:40.740 that he had done in, in the most limited amount of time possible too.

01:02:43.740 Right.

01:02:44.740 Uh, I had seen her statement.

01:02:46.740 We all, we had all seen her statement.

01:02:48.740 They were working on it pretty late last night and her questions.

01:02:51.740 Sorry, not the statement, but her questions to him.

01:02:55.740 And, uh, she rehearsed it at lunch, timed it and everything.

01:02:58.740 And, you know, with only 10 minutes, she had 10 minutes in this entire 10, almost 11 month

01:03:07.740 ordeal to make Justin Trudeau confront, uh, the, the names and the faces of the people that

01:03:13.740 he deliberately and solely impacted the decisions rest at the top.

01:03:20.740 They, you know, like it or not, whether you voted for Justin Trudeau or not, he is the

01:03:24.740 final decision maker in the government of Canada.

01:03:27.740 It was his determination to see that the emergency act was invoked against Canadian taxpaying citizens

01:03:34.740 and voters.

01:03:35.740 And she got 10 minutes to make him really look at the human cost of, of what he put, has

01:03:42.740 been putting Canadians through.

01:03:44.740 And it was pretty disgusting and disingenuous the way he said, you know, that final question

01:03:50.740 she asked him, you know, that final one at the end.

01:03:53.740 And his smug answer was, I'm not afraid and neither is my government.

01:03:58.740 It's like, yeah, you know what?

01:04:00.740 I'm sure Herman Goebel said the same thing.

01:04:02.740 Yeah, exactly.

01:04:03.740 We have that at clip 27.

01:04:05.740 Maybe we'll show that it was really something else.

01:04:08.740 Um, because it was truly a question that Canadians do want answers to.

01:04:12.740 And she took the opportunity to ask it.

01:04:14.740 And, uh, he just sort of this smug little smirk, just, he just so smug.

01:04:21.740 Anyways, I'm at a loss for words.

01:04:23.740 Let's roll this.

01:04:24.740 Minister Blair, Public Safety Minister, Minister Mendicino, National Security Intelligence

01:04:33.740 Advisor Jody Thomas, and RCMP Commissioner Brenda Luckey, and today you, testified that

01:04:39.740 the federal government was committed to exhausting all alternatives to a resolution prior to making

01:04:44.740 a decision to invoke the extraordinary powers of the Emergencies Act.

01:04:49.740 Do you agree that that accurately describes your government's position?

01:04:53.740 That the invocation of the Emergencies Act was a measure of last resort, was not something

01:04:58.740 to be taken lightly.

01:04:59.740 Thank you.

01:05:00.740 And something to do when other options were not effective.

01:05:04.740 And you are aware that the OPP, along with others, developed an engagement proposal,

01:05:10.740 and you were advised of that proposal at the IRG meeting on February 12th, correct?

01:05:16.740 Um, it was a proposal, but we had, and it was presented to us.

01:05:21.740 We had more questions, uh, about, uh, how it would actually work.

01:05:26.740 Uh, there, it was not a complete proposal.

01:05:28.740 My last question, Mr. Prime Minister.

01:05:30.740 When did you and your government start to become so afraid of your own citizens?

01:05:35.740 That's a very unfair.

01:05:38.740 I am not.

01:05:39.740 And we are not.

01:05:40.740 Those are my questions.

01:05:42.740 Get a stupid face.

01:05:46.740 Oh.

01:05:47.740 It's already cringy.

01:05:49.740 That's, that's for sure.

01:05:50.740 Right?

01:05:51.740 I, you know, she asked a, uh, an important question that he had to have known that she

01:05:57.740 would have only asked if it, if it, if she wasn't representing at least 6 million Canadians

01:06:04.740 in this country.

01:06:05.740 And his immediate go-to was to grin in, in pure defiance.

01:06:10.740 And then to, to use words to say, you know, I'm not, and we're not basically.

01:06:15.740 I, yeah, it's, it's very grotesque to see.

01:06:19.740 Uh, and you know, one thing I noticed with him, unlike any other witness that we had seen,

01:06:26.740 there were several times that he would actually turn and face the audience and lecture the

01:06:32.740 audience.

01:06:33.740 He's performing.

01:06:34.740 He was performing.

01:06:35.740 Um, I, I was almost expecting to hear his father's eulogy that, you know, basically put

01:06:41.740 him on the map.

01:06:42.740 Um, you know, I, I was expecting to hear a tear or see a tear or something.

01:06:47.740 I thought he was going to be going for, you know, a Juno award to be perfectly honest.

01:06:53.740 Um, it was, it was, I, I, it's a very surreal thing to sit in the room.

01:07:00.740 That's the first time I've ever actually been in, in, uh, the same room as him.

01:07:04.740 Um, yeah, yeah, I've, I've, I've been, I'm going to go have a shower tonight.

01:07:11.740 Anyway, I, I find, um, he was so incredibly well-prepared for that.

01:07:18.740 And, and I heard other people say that, you know, in the back room today to say how surprised

01:07:23.740 and how comfortable he was in that room, he had a smugness and arrogance about him that

01:07:32.740 was different than I noticed than the other two, the previous days, Mendocino and, um,

01:07:37.740 uh, the, the attorney general.

01:07:40.740 Yeah.

01:07:41.740 He's an actor though.

01:07:42.740 He's an actor.

01:07:43.740 He's just a stage.

01:07:45.740 Yeah.

01:07:46.740 I'm sorry.

01:07:47.740 I've still got the cold.

01:07:49.740 The Ottawa hack.

01:07:50.740 I get it every time I come here.

01:07:52.740 Apparently.

01:07:53.740 Oh, uh, sorry.

01:07:55.740 I don't want to cut you off.

01:07:56.740 I'll give you a little break here.

01:07:58.740 Uh, let's go to clip 25 because this is after Eva reads those statements about people who

01:08:07.740 are saying the people are so whipped into a frenzy that they're saying that I should be

01:08:12.740 denied healthcare, that I should die.

01:08:14.740 Friends and family are divided from each other based on government rhetoric.

01:08:18.740 She lists all, she goes through these statements and Justin Trudeau doubles down and says that

01:08:23.740 he wishes he could have done more.

01:08:25.740 This is Pfizer salesman routine to get people vaccinated.

01:08:29.740 What the hell?

01:08:30.740 Anyway, let's roll clip 25.

01:08:32.740 What a ghoul this guy is.

01:08:34.740 Yeah.

01:08:35.740 You have now heard the statements from some of the many concerned Canadians who felt compelled

01:08:41.740 to support the protesters.

01:08:43.740 Do you now understand the reason so many Canadians came to Ottawa with such resolve in the midst

01:08:52.740 of a harsh, cold Canadian winter because of the harms caused by your government COVID mandates

01:09:00.740 and they wanted to be heard?

01:09:02.740 Uh, I am moved, uh, and I was moved as I heard, uh, these testimonies, as I saw the depth of

01:09:12.740 um, hurt and anxiety about the present and the future expressed by so many people.

01:09:24.740 That COVID pandemic was unbelievably difficult on all Canadians.

01:09:31.740 And my job throughout this pandemic was to keep Canadians safe.

01:09:37.740 And the way that I chose to do that was to lean on public health officials, lean on experts

01:09:44.740 and science on the best way to keep Canadians safe.

01:09:48.740 And because Canadians got vaccinated to over 80%, we had fewer deaths in Canada than places that

01:09:59.740 didn't reach that.

01:10:00.740 And every heartbreaking story I hear of a family who sat beside the bed of a loved one dying because

01:10:09.740 they had believed that the vaccines were more dangerous than the disease.

01:10:17.740 I take personally because I wish I could have done more to convince people to get vaccinated.

01:10:28.740 Eva is somehow the most patient person on the face of the earth.

01:10:34.740 I don't know how she stood there and listened to him make the cries of Canadians about himself,

01:10:41.740 about how he takes things personally.

01:10:44.740 As I said to William and, um, Alexa, Trudeau just loves to be the bride at every wedding

01:10:50.740 and the corpse at every funeral.

01:10:52.740 And he did it there too.

01:10:53.740 Yes, absolutely.

01:10:55.740 And I, you know, I've often joked and said, yeah, the, the best way for human, the human

01:11:01.740 species to get back to the moon is if they get vaccinated, right?

01:11:04.740 Somehow getting vaccinated just solves every challenge, every problem.

01:11:08.740 He's a one trick pony with that line.

01:11:10.740 And he just, it's, it's, you know, wash, rinse, repeat, wash, rinse, repeat.

01:11:17.740 It's the same talking points.

01:11:19.740 And he, he's, he was born into this line of business, right?

01:11:24.740 I mean, from his father, he's been around politics since he was, you know, a child.

01:11:31.740 So he understands what it means to spin into reframe.

01:11:36.740 Like he's been doing it probably as his whole entire life.

01:11:39.740 And you just saw like a master, like he should be doing master classes on how to spin things

01:11:45.740 towards your own advantage.

01:11:47.740 And you're right.

01:11:49.740 He's, he's always the bride, never the bridesmaid.

01:11:52.740 That's for sure.

01:11:53.740 In terms of, um, somehow this making himself the benevolent leader of all things, uh, good

01:12:02.740 and wholesome.

01:12:03.740 And it's, it's frustrating to watch because he completely ignores the central point of what

01:12:09.740 Eva was saying.

01:12:10.740 You now just heard all of the reasons why Canadians endured a, uh, hard, cold Canadian

01:12:17.740 winter.

01:12:18.740 They didn't do it because they, they needed a vaccine.

01:12:21.740 What they did it for was because they lost their jobs.

01:12:24.740 They were demonized by him and everyone who followed his rhetoric demonized by the media.

01:12:30.740 I lost my job.

01:12:31.740 I lost my job.

01:12:32.740 You know, why?

01:12:34.740 Because the judicial system in this country, the doctors and the lawyers, and, and I say

01:12:39.740 with exception, of course, failed, failed to follow basic principles of their professions

01:12:45.740 and to abide by informed consent, which is criminal code stuff.

01:12:50.740 When you violate, uh, informed consent, it's actually criminal assault.

01:12:53.740 Where were the lawyers when this happened?

01:12:55.740 How is it that all of a sudden a host or hostess in a restaurant is now able to with impunity

01:13:02.740 violate the privacy act of this country?

01:13:04.740 You know, these people leadership started at the top with the prime minister and with impunity,

01:13:11.740 every level, every institution in this country took the lead from the prime minister of Canada

01:13:17.740 and they violated every single law and institution that was meant to protect us.

01:13:22.740 So if people believe for a minute that this had anything to do with COVID-19,

01:13:27.740 why we were protesting had nothing to do with COVID-19.

01:13:30.740 It had everything to do about the rule of law in this country and how COVID was the symptom

01:13:36.740 that proved that it was easy, flawlessly easy in this country to just violate your rights.

01:13:43.740 Because now our rights, COVID was the test.

01:13:47.740 And the test proved that our rights were easily violated by the government.

01:13:51.740 Why?

01:13:52.740 Because when the government gets cornered, they just reframed the definition of what laws are supposed to mean.

01:13:57.740 Like we saw between the Emergency Act and CSIS Section 2.

01:14:01.740 They just reframed the whole narrative and give themselves extraordinary powers to violate our rights.

01:14:08.740 So to me, it never had anything about to do with the shot or COVID or lockdowns.

01:14:13.740 It had everything to do with the fact that the rule of law in this country is paper thin.

01:14:18.740 And that premise is supported by the actions of all the courts and all the cowardly lawyers and doctors in this country.

01:14:25.740 It was a large scale ash conformity test.

01:14:29.740 And if you've ever been in a room alone with Ezra for about 20 minutes,

01:14:33.740 he'll open up his phone and make you watch an ash conformity test video.

01:14:37.740 And the ash conformity test for people who don't know it is,

01:14:41.740 it's really based on an appeal to authority.

01:14:45.740 So will you go along to get along if everybody else in the room is saying one thing,

01:14:56.740 but you 100% know that another, that it's wrong.

01:14:59.740 This is the ash conformity test.

01:15:01.740 Yes.

01:15:02.740 And so these guys are being shown, I forget what they're being shown here,

01:15:06.740 but basically there's one guy in the room who's not part of the test.

01:15:10.740 Everybody else is part of the test.

01:15:12.740 Like they're actors in the test.

01:15:15.740 And he, I think it is.

01:15:16.740 Okay.

01:15:17.740 Can you tell me which one is the shortest?

01:15:19.740 And so everybody else is picking one that is not the shortest and you know,

01:15:23.740 that's the shortest, but will you go along because everybody else is,

01:15:27.740 or are you the kind of person who says, I'll, I won't go along.

01:15:33.740 And what happens is in some of these tests is they'll have one or two people

01:15:37.740 who are also not part of the actors in the test.

01:15:40.740 And once somebody breaks, everybody starts breaking.

01:15:45.740 And that's what the convoy did.

01:15:46.740 The convoy was a nationwide ash conformity test where you knew you,

01:15:51.740 you believed a certain thing.

01:15:52.740 You knew certain things to be true, but until the trucker said, no, this is BS.

01:15:57.740 We don't have to live like that and we don't have to get forcibly injected against,

01:16:03.740 as you say, unemployment and not a disease.

01:16:06.740 Once they stood up, everybody else stood up.

01:16:09.740 And that's what's happening here.

01:16:11.740 It was a nationwide ash conformity test.

01:16:14.740 And you know what?

01:16:15.740 I want to say something and I, please, I don't mean to make this about me,

01:16:18.740 but I want to draw on an actual experience I had with this exact same thing.

01:16:23.740 Cause I'm, I'm very aware of this phenomenon.

01:16:26.740 Usually the story I've heard is about a bunch of monkeys in a cage with a ladder,

01:16:29.740 but I'll leave that one alone.

01:16:32.740 Here's the thing.

01:16:33.740 When I got fired from my teaching job, the college I belong to put out an email

01:16:39.740 from the president of the college and she used, you know, language,

01:16:43.740 like let me be clear, very aggressive language in her, in her letter.

01:16:48.740 And I looked at that and I said, well, because of my army pension,

01:16:52.740 I'm a little bit less financially vulnerable, but even if that didn't matter,

01:16:56.740 I still would have said, no, that's wrong.

01:17:00.740 So I stood up and I actually sent an email to the entire, as many faculty,

01:17:04.740 the president herself, HR VP, and all the deans that I personally knew,

01:17:09.740 and all the faculty saying, this is wrong.

01:17:13.740 I don't know how you're getting around all these Canadian laws.

01:17:16.740 This is immoral, illegal, and unethical.

01:17:19.740 And funny, I got fired the same week as Julie Panessi.

01:17:22.740 And she did the same thing in her school.

01:17:25.740 And so there was people that, you know,

01:17:27.740 they were the ones that were the non-actors inside the test.

01:17:30.740 And you know what?

01:17:31.740 I fully expected, truthfully, I fully expected all of the other people

01:17:36.740 to come out of the, out of hiding and back me up and say, you know what, Tom,

01:17:41.740 you're right, because I put my personal email on the email to all the faculty.

01:17:46.740 We're talking like 250 people.

01:17:48.740 I expected them to all back me up.

01:17:50.740 And you know what happened?

01:17:52.740 The exact opposite.

01:17:53.740 The horde actually turned on me, all of them, including my own boss,

01:18:00.740 the dean that I worked for, and a bunch of people.

01:18:03.740 And somebody said, you know what, let's kind of speak out against this guy.

01:18:07.740 One of the PhDs said, no, I think we should speak out against this guy personally.

01:18:12.740 And this was the test that the college I belong to in Barrie failed miserably.

01:18:19.740 Right?

01:18:20.740 And I hate to say it, but I hope someday in the future I run it.

01:18:24.740 And I've lost friends.

01:18:25.740 I lost good friends that I worked with.

01:18:26.740 They all turned on me.

01:18:28.740 But that's not unusual given this time.

01:18:31.740 But I think this test is bigger and more serious than we all think it is because, you know,

01:18:37.740 it's like you're going, now you're doubling down with hypnosis.

01:18:41.740 Yeah.

01:18:42.740 Or mass formation psychosis is what it's now popularly phrased as.

01:18:47.740 It's disturbing.

01:18:49.740 I expected people to back me up, but they didn't.

01:18:52.740 There's, you know what though, there's another experiment.

01:18:54.740 And I think about this all the time.

01:18:56.740 Every time I see one of these public health officers, I call the Milgram, the Milgram one.

01:19:01.740 The Milgram.

01:19:02.740 Yeah.

01:19:03.740 The Milgram experiment, because it, it, we all went through exactly that.

01:19:08.740 When we have our public health officers, I call them public health necromancers because they use the dead and dying to control the living.

01:19:16.740 Yeah.

01:19:17.740 But the Milgram experiment for people who don't know is, well, what will you do if somebody in a lab coat tells you to do it?

01:19:23.740 Would you shock another person until you maybe think they're dead?

01:19:28.740 Would you do it if a guy in a lab coat told you to do it?

01:19:31.740 And a surprising number of people you think are smart would do it because a guy in a lab coat, you don't even know he's a doctor.

01:19:40.740 Like literally, they never even told these people that guy's a doctor.

01:19:43.740 He just wore a lab coat, which gives off the perception of that he's someone of authority, someone who knows better.

01:19:52.740 And the, basically they said, would you keep shocking this guy?

01:19:55.740 Now, nobody was actually shocked.

01:19:56.740 I think the guy was an actor, but a substantial amount of people would do whatever a guy in a lab coat told them.

01:20:02.740 And if you've been on Twitter lately, you know that those people are real and they are wearing masks in their profile pictures.

01:20:10.740 Yes.

01:20:11.740 Yes, absolutely.

01:20:14.740 I think we should go to, we should wrap up because these guys have had a very long day.

01:20:21.740 I bet you guys all want to go for beers together.

01:20:23.740 Let's.

01:20:24.740 Sorry.

01:20:25.740 It's okay.

01:20:26.740 Let's go to clip 26.

01:20:27.740 It's Eva reminding the prime minister what his role is as the prime minister and it's not to divide the country into medical status.

01:20:40.740 People have testified in this inquiry referencing your widely published comments and calling the unvaccinated racists and misogynists.

01:20:50.740 And we have heard testimony in this inquiry about how some of your officials wanted to label protesters as terrorists.

01:20:57.740 Would you agree with me that one of the most important roles of a prime minister is to unite Canadians and not divide them by engaging in name calling?

01:21:05.740 I did not call people who are unvaccinated names.

01:21:12.740 I highlighted there is a difference between people who are hesitant to get vaccinated for any range of reasons and people who deliberately spread misinformation that puts at risk that life and health of their fellow Canadians.

01:21:33.740 And my focus every step of the way and the primary responsibility of a prime minister is to keep Canadians safe and alive.

01:21:46.740 Small fringe minority with unacceptable views is what he called them.

01:21:49.740 And that's not he didn't preface that with saying, oh, but these are people who are spreading disinformation about vaccinations.

01:21:55.740 He didn't say that. That's what he called the convoy.

01:21:58.740 Well, fun fact. How many Canadians ever heard the word misogynist until it was uttered by that man?

01:22:07.740 How many people honestly ever used that word in this country until Justin Trudeau?

01:22:12.740 So basically he should he should literally Rob Kittrich is a patent lawyer.

01:22:17.740 Maybe, you know, talk to him about helping Justin Trudeau out on that one.

01:22:22.740 Right. He's like the whole room like Rulo at one point had to threaten to clear the room on our side of the room because the crowd was really having a hard time, you know, choking down his lies.

01:22:37.740 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is absolute gaslighting.

01:22:41.740 I he's they're extremists. They don't believe in science.

01:22:44.740 They're often misogynistic.

01:22:46.740 It's a small group, but that takes up space.

01:22:49.740 So what do you want to do with them, Justin? What do you want to do with them?

01:22:52.740 This sounds this is genocide talk, by the way, like when they're like, oh, they're just taking up space.

01:22:57.740 What do you want to do with them? Where should they go?

01:22:59.740 Like you want to follow the science. Things take up space when they exist.

01:23:03.740 They exist. So what do you want them to do not exist?

01:23:06.740 Yeah, you know, and add that to the level of fear.

01:23:10.740 So if we go back a year ago in this country, let's talk about the level of fear that we had.

01:23:15.740 We had Quebec, who is now threatening to not let unvaccinated people get groceries.

01:23:20.740 We had rolling, slow rolling.

01:23:25.740 I'll use that as a joke. Slow rolling lockdowns.

01:23:28.740 We had mask mandates. We had vaccine passports.

01:23:32.740 We had quarantine hotels.

01:23:34.740 And you guys covered it extensively in the GTA, where in the early days of the quarantine hotels, I remember a story you guys did where there was a woman taken by law enforcement right off the plane and ushered to a quarantine hotel.

01:23:49.740 And they refused to tell her husband or speak to her husband of the location she was going and she was in a suburban for well over an hour traveling to an undisclosed location.

01:23:59.740 And as far as I'm concerned, that's kidnapping.

01:24:02.740 If I was her husband, I would have been on the phone calling the RCMP to say that my wife had been abducted because it's exactly what it was.

01:24:10.740 And, you know, you look at combine that with all the rhetoric coming from the mainstream media, that newspaper article that came out last year, all the tweets, the quoted tweets on the front page of one of the mainstream newspapers, vilifying unvaccinated people.

01:24:26.740 If you look at the level of fear that people in this country were going through a year ago, no wonder, no wonder that convoy rolling across this country was, A, humongous, and B, so well supported by millions of Canadians and Americans and Europeans in this country.

01:24:44.300 And so they're all sitting here as if, though, these benevolent leaders, you know, were protecting their and not doing enough to protect their children.

01:24:53.600 Well, I'm sorry, you disgusting people set the conditions for a level of fear that nobody has ever seen on this continent, other than maybe the Japanese that were interned in World War II.

01:25:08.260 Yeah.

01:25:09.020 That's how bad it was.

01:25:10.340 Or let's say Indigenous people that have been interned in this country.

01:25:15.020 This is how we all felt.

01:25:16.640 We all felt like this was 1933 and Adolf Hitler had just been put into power as the Chancellor of Germany.

01:25:24.900 This is how people that were unvaccinated felt in this country.

01:25:27.940 And why?

01:25:28.920 Because of Justin Trudeau in his cabinet.

01:25:32.200 And they didn't know when it was going to end.

01:25:35.020 You know, there was no end in sight.

01:25:36.380 They kept saying, follow the science.

01:25:37.940 But anybody who was looking was thinking, they're not following the science.

01:25:42.420 So what is going to happen to me next?

01:25:44.640 And so, yeah, there was a substantial portion of Canadians.

01:25:47.940 Six million of nearly 40 million Canadians were basically othered from society, abandoned by their friends, put out of work, abandoned by their family, not allowed to travel, disconnected, couldn't celebrate holidays, couldn't go work out, couldn't watch their kids play hockey.

01:26:05.000 And Justin Trudeau just sort of shrugs it off and says, no, I didn't play any sort of role in doing that to those people.

01:26:12.720 And I didn't do enough, which means I didn't finish the job.

01:26:17.160 Why?

01:26:17.800 Because a whole bunch of truckers came to Ottawa and put a stop to his plan.

01:26:23.320 And that's the reality, right?

01:26:25.680 There's people that started this convoy, you know, and then you can't do anything without the support of this.

01:26:36.740 And all of the people that came to the convoy on weekends, like we spoke about the other night, they were the perfect examples or sample of everything that is Canadian.

01:26:48.660 From every province, they came to this country and every territory was represented at the convoy in Ottawa and other locations.

01:26:57.440 So, you know, that's the big question that really I don't think was explored nearly enough by any of the legal teams.

01:27:03.320 It's like, why did all of these protests pop up all over Canada and then all over the world?

01:27:10.460 Why?

01:27:11.020 Because free citizens were terrified of their own governments and they took it upon themselves to push back, which we all believed was our Section 2 Charter right, the right to peacefully assemble.

01:27:22.560 And again, I still have yet to hear, the commission's over, but I've yet to hear at what point did the convoy become illegal?

01:27:31.000 They still can't answer that question, but they just say it's an illegal occupation, a blockade.

01:27:39.120 These are all military terms, by the way.

01:27:41.100 They're not meant for your citizens.

01:27:43.360 We were not an occupying army, which is the definition of the word.

01:27:47.240 But I understand the context.

01:27:49.600 But in reality, let's talk about how much fear occupied all of our minds as 6 million unvaccinated Canadians.

01:27:58.180 It was overwhelming at times.

01:28:02.620 And, I mean, do we really want to talk about the number of small communities that have popped up all over this country in more rural areas?

01:28:13.320 People are walking away from society because they realize how disgustingly corrupt it is in this country.

01:28:20.260 Right?

01:28:20.840 They don't want to be governed anymore.

01:28:22.240 They're taking steps to form their own independent communities.

01:28:27.060 They're homeschooling.

01:28:27.900 They're finding medical needs.

01:28:29.540 They're getting out of the system.

01:28:31.120 And I can't say I blame them because that's the exact reason why I bought all my land.

01:28:35.600 Because I'm done with this crap.

01:28:38.580 Well, as they say, the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.

01:28:44.000 And I think the natural human inclination is to be free.

01:28:49.720 People will only be caged birds in fancy cages for so long until they've had enough.

01:28:57.680 And, you know, while Justin Trudeau, as you say, wants to be a benevolent leader, I'm just looking out for my people.

01:29:02.180 I'm keeping them safe.

01:29:03.220 You're keeping them caged.

01:29:04.560 And sometimes, you know what?

01:29:08.120 I'll be an ugly seagull flying free before I'm a fancy little parakeet in a gilded cage.

01:29:13.740 That's for sure.

01:29:14.960 Agreed.

01:29:16.600 Well, you know what, Tom?

01:29:17.820 I think we should leave it on that note.

01:29:20.460 I think probably my friends in the studio there, both in Toronto, but also in the satellite studio of the Airbnb, would probably like to go and get something to eat and maybe a beer and celebrate the end of 31 long days of work.

01:29:34.080 So, Tom, thank you so much for your stand for freedom from the very beginning, but also for your expert analysis from the inside of both the commission, but also from inside the convoy from the very beginning.

01:29:46.180 You know, you don't have to come hang out with us every night in the Airbnb, but you do, and we appreciate it.

01:29:52.420 And you always bring a very unique perspective.

01:29:54.540 And like I said, I'm sort of sad that it's coming to an end.

01:29:56.840 This is probably the one of the good things that came out of the commission.

01:29:59.900 Yeah.

01:30:00.100 I'm going to have to go get a job as a Walmart greeter.

01:30:02.340 So, if Walmart, you're listening, I'm looking for a job now.

01:30:06.460 Does having a master's degree qualify me to say hi to people at Walmart?

01:30:10.320 I hope so, because I'm tired.

01:30:13.780 Olivia says we have one chat.

01:30:18.060 I'm not sure where it is, though, Olivia.

01:30:20.000 Maybe we should get to it, because someone was generous with us.

01:30:23.180 I'm looking.

01:30:24.600 Oh.

01:30:24.860 Where they're pinned in the main thread.

01:30:29.080 Okay.

01:30:29.720 Well, I don't know where that is, and I'm looking right now on my phone.

01:30:33.120 I have one from Annalisa1964.

01:30:36.820 Sorry if we can throw to that one first.

01:30:40.040 Because that's the only one I have.

01:30:41.280 Perfect.

01:30:44.100 Annalisa1964 gives us $10.

01:30:46.200 Says, I must send a big shout out to William, you manly man.

01:30:49.780 Don't worry, Sheila.

01:30:50.780 My sweet Menzies still has my heart.

01:30:52.740 This is Annalisa.

01:30:54.500 David Menzies in the bloodstream like an AstraZeneca clot with her.

01:30:57.880 Anyway, she says, you're all amazing.

01:31:00.320 And then we've got Shauna Marie, G83, $10.

01:31:02.300 This is for Alan Hawner.

01:31:05.940 Alan, you did an amazing job.

01:31:07.220 I think it was very wise to have you speak last, as you're articulate and very matter-of-fact,

01:31:11.620 but your demeanor is thoughtful, and therefore you represent the truckers very effectively.

01:31:15.280 Yeah, he does a great job.

01:31:16.780 And Shauna Marie, G83, gives us another $5.

01:31:19.520 I can't believe Trudeau had the audacity to swear on the Bible and blatantly lie.

01:31:25.100 I have lots of things to say.

01:31:26.400 I'm just going to keep them to myself.

01:31:27.540 So, if in the end justice is not served, he will have to meet his maker and experience

01:31:32.080 the full wrath of God for his actions.

01:31:33.720 You know what?

01:31:34.200 From your lips to God's ears, Shauna Marie.

01:31:36.300 And another one from Shauna Marie, G83, 5.

01:31:39.080 God love Eva.

01:31:40.740 She brought heart into a void of ship.

01:31:42.740 It was fantastic.

01:31:43.940 The perfect bookend.

01:31:45.660 It says, I truly believe that Trudeau doesn't have a compassionate cell in his body.

01:31:49.020 It's a battle between those with integrity and those without.

01:31:51.960 Like everything, Shauna, I think it's a battle between good and evil.

01:31:54.360 And the good news is that in the end, and it might be long, but good always wins.

01:32:01.040 Can I give one last final thought?

01:32:03.660 Of course.

01:32:05.900 So, I started watching Rebel at the beginning of the pandemic.

01:32:10.900 I didn't watch any mainstream media, nothing.

01:32:13.920 And you know why I watched you guys?

01:32:15.480 Because your segments were always so long, and you guys never gave yourselves an opportunity

01:32:22.160 to edit the story.

01:32:25.040 It was always raw, and it was always as truthful as you could possibly make it.

01:32:28.900 And you covered all of the stories that people needed to hear.

01:32:33.700 The stories that were not getting out, that were being literally stonewalled by all the

01:32:40.200 mainstream media and the government.

01:32:41.680 And you guys went out and you fought at a lot of personal cost.

01:32:45.600 You know, you got Alexa that got shot in the leg by a projectile.

01:32:49.300 People were pepper sprayed.

01:32:50.720 You guys covered all the stories.

01:32:52.340 You got arrested.

01:32:53.780 You know, you guys fought to get the truth into the hands of the people.

01:32:58.340 And so, you know, to have the opportunity to participate with Rebel News and to come here,

01:33:06.180 I mean, my time for you guys is a thank you for you guys.

01:33:14.900 It's not, you know, it's not taking away time for me.

01:33:18.260 It's actually me giving back to what you guys did for me personally in the two years and a

01:33:24.680 half now leading up to this commission.

01:33:26.800 So I really want to thank everybody at Rebel News for everything you guys have ever done,

01:33:31.720 fighting for the stories and telling the truth to Canadians, because without you guys,

01:33:36.520 nobody would have ever had a fair chance at learning what the hell was really going on

01:33:40.220 in this country, because you guys were the first and the only true ones out there digging

01:33:44.420 for the truth.

01:33:45.360 So thank you guys so much.

01:33:47.580 Well, Tom, I really appreciate those kind words.

01:33:49.960 You've spent some time with us, you know, that we're all just normal, average people.

01:33:53.940 And I think that's what I strive to do here at Rebel News is give a voice to the normal,

01:33:58.700 average person that the mainstream media generally looks at like they're a zoo animal.

01:34:03.380 But at the end of the day, none of this is possible without the support of our viewers

01:34:07.780 at home.

01:34:09.320 You know, we see it all the time when we're out on the streets.

01:34:12.220 There are people who are cheering for us to just keep going and keep fighting and telling

01:34:15.740 the stories that matter every day.

01:34:17.040 So while you're thanking me, I'm going to thank our viewers at home and everybody who

01:34:20.800 supports us, particularly at TruckerCommission.com.

01:34:24.820 We don't rely on Justin Trudeau.

01:34:26.640 We rely on the support and love of our viewers and we feel it and we're grateful for it.

01:34:32.140 And so on this very last day of the Trucker Commission, I just want to thank everybody

01:34:36.280 at home for their ongoing support of us here at Rebel News.

01:34:39.360 And with that, love fest, let's wrap her up.

01:34:44.840 And as David Menzies always says, stay sane.

01:34:50.240 What do you say, sir, to the suggestion that the decision to invoke the Emergencies Act

01:34:56.980 on February 14th of this year was politically motivated?

01:35:01.520 My motivation was entirely about ensuring the safety of Canadians.

01:35:11.740 My secondary motivation was making sure Canadians continue to have confidence in their institutions

01:35:19.260 and in our society's ability to function and enforce the rule of law when it's not being

01:35:27.400 respected.

01:35:29.260 Politics was not a motivation at all in the invocation of the Emergencies Act.

Rebel News Podcast - November 25, 2022

BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Day 31 ｜ Trudeau testifies on final day

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