Rebel News Podcast - BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Rebel wrap-up with Ezra Levant & special guest Eva Chipiuk

00:00:00.000 welcome to a daytime version of our live stream talking about the trucker commission even great

00:00:19.520 to see you again how you doing oh nice to see you nice to be home a little bit tired but uh

00:00:25.380 just the beginning i think yeah well we just wrapped up the public hearings as in the sworn

00:00:32.820 witnesses and the subpoenaed documents and the cross-examinations but the trucker commission is

00:00:37.860 not yet done there's going to be a public policy phase and and other things but the drama of the

00:00:46.220 last month has come to a close even you were one of a number of lawyers from the justice center for

00:00:50.740 constitutional freedom and other freedom oriented groups including our friends at the democracy fund

00:00:55.860 um how long was it i mean you were out there half of the civil liberties lawyers in canada by which

00:01:03.600 i mean democracy fund jccf canadian constitution foundation and even the liberals at the canadian

00:01:11.860 civil liberties association finally thought they'd wrap up their two-year vacation and uh and engage

00:01:18.180 in the freedom file thankfully uh tell me what it was like actually being a lawyer associated with

00:01:24.600 the commission you were granted standing you were given access early access to privileged documents you

00:01:30.020 were given interactions with the judge and of course you cross-examined witnesses what was it like

00:01:36.340 i don't know where to start i can't believe it's all come to an end it feels like it it just started

00:01:43.300 and then it it was just a daily grind it was 31 days non-stop of evidence and you know when we are

00:01:50.800 having long days like we did and then you're still preparing for the next day and of course my clients

00:01:56.960 were a huge focal point in all of this um the protesters the reason uh everything came to head

00:02:04.740 as these protesters came to ottawa to hear from their federal government and we know how the federal

00:02:10.700 government responded so this was all about whether or not this was justified um you asked a few

00:02:16.920 questions and quickly in the intro and i you know getting all these documents like you said

00:02:23.180 we did but the the way this was set up and how quickly this all transpired it was hard almost to

00:02:32.020 assess everything that was happening as it was happening i think i'll be decompressing and we're all

00:02:37.840 going to be thinking about this for months and possibly years to come um let me ask you do you

00:02:44.140 think it was i mean we we'll see what the report says we'll see what the judge's findings are and what

00:02:50.520 any recommendations are so of course we don't know how it's going to end i mean it could go a number of

00:02:56.500 ways but the process itself is an outcome a sort of outcome having police answer questions under oath

00:03:04.980 and i think generally the police told the truth having politicians under oath and i frankly think

00:03:09.980 generally the politicians lied i'm sorry i just that's just what it looked like to mean lied or at least

00:03:15.760 evaded avoided um talked out the clock i suppose that's different than lying but there was lying too

00:03:23.580 i think in general the process was positive and anyone who looked at it uh directly or through

00:03:31.300 the filter of rebel news or other freedom-oriented groups probably learned a lot but there really are

00:03:37.520 two solitudes reading the coverage in the toronto star or the cbc or global news which has just become

00:03:43.760 the worst media outlet in the country it's hard to believe um they're engaging in revisionist history

00:03:49.640 of this trucker commission just like they engaged in revisionist history the trucker convoy itself

00:03:54.260 so although i think the trucker commission was very useful if your only source of info about it was a

00:04:00.620 toronto star or global news you remain in the dark about what was really happening that's my thoughts what

00:04:06.900 do you think yeah no it's unfortunately still the same um people are watching two different movies and

00:04:13.760 that's how it was since the beginning of the protest in ottawa truckers going to ottawa if you looked at

00:04:21.040 some of those mainstream media outlets you were talking about versus social media it was a completely

00:04:27.120 different story and then it's unfortunately still the same so what we've learned i hope is that you really

00:04:33.360 need to get firsthand information number one be way more involved be way more active really investigate

00:04:41.480 things for yourself and i really hope at least that is something that people have learned throughout the

00:04:47.540 process and i agree with you very much it was really interesting to see um the police give evidence and also

00:04:55.480 senior officials so not the politicians but senior levels in government at least on a municipal scale

00:05:01.980 it was quite different to see what they had to say well listen we have a half dozen clips of your own

00:05:10.040 involvement and i'd like to show that uh like i say you were granted standing uh you and other civil

00:05:15.820 liberties lawyers so there were a lot of lawyers there and sometimes the cross-examination of

00:05:22.000 politicians or police was you know you had five minutes or 10 minutes and frankly you ask one question

00:05:28.860 for a minute every politician worth their salt can give a four minute evasive maneuver um

00:05:35.520 let's let's let's go through we've got it we've got a half dozen clips let's just belt through them

00:05:41.000 the first one was when you were asking justin trudeau the prime minister that must have been exciting

00:05:45.820 first of all that you you uh not every lawyer had a chance to have a go at trudeau you asked him

00:05:52.040 i think questions i mean you sort of knew he was just gonna duck speak his way through things

00:05:57.800 so you put more thematic questions less sort of legal cross-examine things here let's show the

00:06:04.860 first clip and i'll show people what i mean people have testified in this inquiry referencing your widely

00:06:11.480 published comments and calling the unvaccinated racists and misogynists and we have heard testimony

00:06:18.940 in this inquiry about how some of your officials wanted to label protesters as terrorists would you agree

00:06:25.600 with me that one of the most important roles of a prime minister is to unite canadians and not divide

00:06:30.680 them by engaging in name calling uh i did not call people who were unvaccinated names i highlighted

00:06:41.560 there's a difference between people who are hesitant to get vaccinated for any range of reasons

00:06:50.380 and people who deliberately spread misinformation that puts at risk that life and health of their fellow canadians

00:07:00.980 and my focus every step of the way and the primary responsibility of a prime minister

00:07:07.180 is to keep canadians safe and alive

00:07:10.400 i'm not sure if the primary job of the prime minister is to keep me alive i think if that was his job i'd be dead by now

00:07:18.180 um he's really not good for much uh even being a substitute drama teacher he didn't finish his full term

00:07:24.120 um he's a wicked liar of course he called people names in english and in french uh he even said should

00:07:31.240 we tolerate them i um i think you've got to be a bit of a sociopath to tell a bald-faced lie like that

00:07:37.320 uh your next one again it it it didn't go to the technical legal matters of the emergency act

00:07:44.020 but i think it it summed up um their insane response to oh my god working class people they're

00:07:53.060 so grubby and dirty maybe they have guns in their trucks uh deploy their tanks these people you know

00:07:58.780 here in king's landing we only have sophisticated people with fine silk suits and expense accounts

00:08:04.500 for lunch here come the walmart people here come the gun owning people the peasants are storming the

00:08:10.000 capital um you know trudeau despises ordinary people he's a an elite son of an elite son of an elite

00:08:17.220 um three generations since the last trudeau actually worked for a living and here's your question why are

00:08:22.520 you so afraid of people here take a look minister blair public safety minister minister mendicino

00:08:31.000 national security intelligence advisor jody thomas and rcmp commissioner brenda lucky and today you

00:08:37.500 testified that the federal government was committed to exhausting all alternatives to a resolution prior

00:08:43.420 to making a decision to invoke the extraordinary powers of the emergencies act do you agree that that

00:08:50.120 accurately describes your government's position that the invocation of the emergencies act was a

00:08:56.160 measure of last resort was not something to be taken lightly thank you and something to do when

00:09:01.020 when uh other options uh were not effective and you are aware that the opp along with others developed

00:09:08.800 an engagement proposal and you were advised of that proposal at the irg meeting on february 12th correct

00:09:15.500 um it was a proposal but we had and it was presented to us we had more questions uh about uh how it would

00:09:24.820 actually work uh there it was not a complete proposal my last question mr prime minister when did you

00:09:31.000 and your government start to become so afraid of your own citizens

00:09:34.900 that's a very i am not and we are not those are my questions i think he is i think he is afraid of

00:09:44.980 people he deployed they talked about deploying the army they talked about tanks they deployed hundreds

00:09:51.540 maybe thousands of riot police they stomped people with riot horses they invoked martial law for the first

00:09:57.760 time in 50 years of course he was afraid of people i think he was actually more to be precise he was

00:10:02.700 afraid of what the people were doing uh that they were politically finding their voice i don't think he

00:10:07.780 was afraid of them physically i don't think he was afraid of them you know um as a danger to sovereignty

00:10:14.780 like like the emergencies act is built for when the prime minister is afraid are you afraid of danger to

00:10:20.360 groups of people are you afraid of revolution it is uh for prime ministers who are afraid for the country

00:10:26.580 i don't think justin trudeau was actually afraid for the country i don't think he was afraid of an

00:10:31.220 insurrection he was afraid that these working class people were embarrassing him because they

00:10:35.840 weren't obeying him so he was afraid of losing face not afraid of them i very much agree and his own

00:10:43.680 evidence says that he said there was a threat or a potential for the violence so he confirmed in his

00:10:51.420 own evidence there was no violence there was a potential for it of course there's a potential

00:10:56.860 for violence any day any anywhere you are and then if you heard christia freelance evidence too

00:11:02.840 somebody was mean to her they weren't violent towards her they said mean things to her and maybe an

00:11:09.980 expletive um body language and it was a woman trucker all in addition so um when you hear the evidence

00:11:19.060 that they were giving it goes exactly to your point there it it was an embarrassment for them

00:11:26.700 more so and a threat of um losing control which they did yeah clearly you know i want to get through

00:11:33.380 a few more clips you had some great little exchanges with him here's one where trudeau says i wish i

00:11:38.820 would have done more well what more was there i mean he actually shot our reporter um alexa

00:11:44.260 lavois his bodyguards physically beat up our other reporter david menzies i mean the only thing that

00:11:50.000 they did not do was actually deploy the tank though they certainly seem to talk about the canadian

00:11:54.220 forces a lot let's play clip number three you have now heard the statements from some of the many

00:12:01.620 concerned canadians who felt compelled to support the protesters do you now understand the reason so many

00:12:10.020 canadians came to ottawa with such resolve in the midst of a harsh cold canadian winter

00:12:19.300 because of the harms caused by your government coveted mandates and they wanted to be heard

00:12:28.340 i am moved and i was moved as i heard uh these testimonies as i saw the depth of um

00:12:36.740 um hurt and anxiety about the present and the future expressed by so many people that covid pandemic

00:12:49.940 was unbelievably difficult on all canadians and my job throughout this pandemic was to keep canadians

00:12:59.380 safe and the way that i chose to do that was to lean on public health officials lean on experts and

00:13:07.700 science on the best way to keep canadians safe and because canadians got vaccinated to over 80 percent

00:13:17.060 we had fewer deaths in canada than places that didn't reach that and every heartbreaking story

00:13:25.300 i hear of a family who sat beside the bed of a loved one dying because they had believed that the

00:13:33.620 vaccines were more dangerous than the disease i take personally because i wish i could have done more

00:13:45.860 more and i don't convince people to get vaccinated i wish i could have done more to save lives i saved

00:13:55.700 so many lives of course that doesn't talk to the use of the martial law i don't know if martial law

00:14:01.220 would save one life i i don't know if it would save any lives i think um you know you could shoot

00:14:07.460 more people eat more easily you can deploy more guns um i think he's a sociopath um i don't know

00:14:15.700 what what did he make of him he's got that when he starts talking his sexy voice

00:14:21.780 and he hopes that people can feel the raw emotion of the substitute drama teacher and this is an

00:14:29.700 opportunity for us to all reflect on being women respecters and respecting visible minorities and

00:14:36.660 this is an opportunity for you to learn not to wear blackface this is an opportunity for you

00:14:40.580 to learn not to grope rose knight in creston bc this is really an opportunity for all canadians to

00:14:47.220 improve themselves like like he just gets in this drama teacher mode and he changes from being the

00:14:53.380 decider who made a terrible decision to like some third-party observer as if he's not the central

00:14:59.860 decider he has this really gross way of doing things and it seems to work for seven years he's

00:15:04.580 skated i'm worried eva is it eva i like saying eva but how do you say it it's eva eva sorry about

00:15:11.380 that eva um i'm worried he's going to skate i'm worried that that dramatic thespian voice of his

00:15:21.780 and the the media party they just they're lapping it up i i'm worried that no matter what the judge

00:15:26.420 is i think the judge is going to say he had no legal basis for it i think the judge unless this

00:15:32.180 judge is so completely in the tank for trudeau there simply was no evidence that this met the

00:15:37.940 the legal requirement from marshall just there was none there was none every cop every every person

00:15:45.460 who knows security like there was no security threat there were no

00:15:50.420 violence threats there was just none of it the all he has was well there was a potential

00:15:56.420 i don't think the judge is going to come back with anything other than there was no legal basis for

00:16:00.740 it but i think trudeau's going to skate because he's going to roll out his heartfelt message track

00:16:06.820 like he just did there eva yeah i don't know what to say about that it like watching it back now um

00:16:14.260 i didn't imagine that he would go on a tangent like that but i guess i should have seen it coming what

00:16:19.540 else was he going to say and and we knew that this was just for him to he was going to be trying to score

00:16:24.820 political points like it wasn't going to be about the law because that's not something that he's

00:16:30.900 really qualified to speak on anyway um but i do hope that the commission like we were talking about

00:16:37.540 earlier is an opportunity to for people to see firsthand what was going on and maybe they can

00:16:44.260 start to see the disconnect between this government and what they're doing and their talking points and

00:16:49.540 reality it was very much um fiction over facts in my opinion feelings over facts is what we learned

00:16:58.740 the reasons behind invoking the emergencies act yeah well unfortunately most of the media in this

00:17:04.340 country is very feelings oriented and they're feeling grateful to trudeau for bailing out their failing

00:17:10.100 tv stations radio stations and newspapers so uh they're all about feelings also and and trudeau makes

00:17:16.580 some feel warm and fuzzy eva i'm grateful to you and your fellow lawyers there was some great

00:17:21.140 lawyering done i really believe that if the freedom lawyers that you and the rest of the team from the

00:17:26.260 justice center for constitutional freedoms if the freedom lawyers and the democracy fund were not there

00:17:30.820 this would have been a very very different commission um it really would have not had so many

00:17:36.500 important interactions with with the this the national security deep state which is very rarely

00:17:42.580 subjected to scrutiny so on behalf of canadians let me thank you and your team for that eva great to

00:17:47.380 catch up with you and thanks for joining our live stream so many uh days over the last month as you

00:17:52.420 and the rest of your team did i really appreciate it my pleasure it was great to be on and getting the

00:17:56.980 truth out so happy to and so happy to be part of the team right on well thank you for that we're going to

00:18:02.180 take a short commercial break and we'll be back with our chief reporter sheila gun reed eva great to see

00:18:07.780 again thank you thanks so much all right the collective of many diverse groups across can

00:18:15.220 across the country the protest in ottawa brought so many canadians from all different walks of life

00:18:22.020 together it was an opportunity for reconciliation for unit uniting and forging friendships despite so

00:18:30.580 many differences the protest in ottawa gave people hope and it humbled all of us what we saw in

00:18:39.300 ottawa is emblematic of what it means to be canadian and that is what terrifies the current government of

00:18:46.820 canada yes there was honking and diesel and noise and that was not only challenging for residents in ottawa

00:18:54.980 but also for protesters but the protesters were not extremists or terrorists they are fellow canadians

00:19:04.420 neighbors and each person is the thread that holds us together in a peaceful and loving society we have

00:19:12.980 all suffered in our own unique way because of the pandemic the virus the sickness the lockdowns the job

00:19:22.500 losses loss of livelihood the mandates and mental health on the first day of this public order emergency

00:19:31.060 inquiry commissioner rouleau you said uncovering the truth is an important goal when difficult events

00:19:38.820 occurred that impact the lives of canadians the public has the right to know what happened

00:19:44.100 so the call of this common inquiry is to shed a light on this situation which occurred and to make

00:19:55.780 recommendations so that this situation will not occur again let this inquiry be the starting point for all

00:20:02.020 canadians and that means all canadians including government leaders to hold the executive branch of canada to

00:20:11.140 account if there ever was a time for a prime minister to step down now is that time

00:20:20.340 yeah of course trudeau will not step down why would he why would he step down now he's never stepped

00:20:25.140 down anything before he's been convicted multiple times of violating the conflict of interest act the first

00:20:30.660 prime minister ever but why would he step down he doesn't believe in stepping down he's not really a liberal

00:20:36.340 in the uh traditional term of that that's just the name of his party that he wins sheila how are you

00:20:41.060 doing i'm doing great i'm sort of happy that the testimony is all over you know trying to sift through

00:20:48.660 the lies can be exhausting but i'm so proud of our team for how hard they worked to fact check some of

00:20:54.980 these snakes in real time yeah uh now you covered it probably more than anyone other than um william

00:21:02.340 diaz berthium who's based in ottawa so he's right there this was the circus coming to his town we had

00:21:07.540 a number of reporters who cycled through our airbnb pop-up studio which was super fun you covered it from

00:21:13.380 out there but mainly you covered it from your home because one of the things i'll salute this commission

00:21:17.940 for doing they really made it easy for people around the country indeed around the world to follow

00:21:23.700 i've actually never seen a public proceeding that was so citizen friendly documents were made available

00:21:30.660 online the video was live streamed french english like you could show up and be in the room but

00:21:38.580 frankly there was no need to and in fact there were some times when the the physical room wasn't even

00:21:45.380 full because not because there was no interest in this but because people could cover this from the

00:21:50.340 comfort of their own offices or homes right yeah and i think the public nature of all of this

00:21:57.620 is really doing a number on the mainstream media as though the convoy didn't do a number on the

00:22:03.940 credibility of the mainstream media to begin with right um they couldn't come out of their office towers to

00:22:10.180 talk to the truckers that were in ottawa to find out why they came there so they just sort of made it up as

00:22:16.420 they went and i think the fact that this was live streamed in real time in both languages the documents as

00:22:24.900 soon as the lawyers were discussing them became available for you to leaf through you could see

00:22:31.140 how the media was purposefully twisting testimony again in real time i would see the tweets the

00:22:37.540 mainstream media were sending out and realizing you know i'm i'm literally watching the same proceedings

00:22:43.220 and they're taking things out of context but people didn't even have to believe me and my tweets this

00:22:48.100 time they could see for themselves just how much of a bunch of liars the mainstream media are

00:22:54.660 yeah you know what and that's what that's how we succeeded rebel news i think really was our our

00:23:01.220 finest hour covering the trucker convoy we had more eyeballs on that than anything else we've ever done

00:23:07.780 and it was simply because we turned our cameras on and pointed and i mean i i was in ottawa for

00:23:13.300 only a few days i was most of my time at our head office but we had teams i think in particular

00:23:18.340 alexa lavoie and lincoln jay 23 days straight just walking the streets with extra batteries in their

00:23:25.540 phone just live streaming and sometimes it was sort of boring but sometimes it was extremely exciting

00:23:32.180 but what it never was was filtered and so you literally felt like you were there uh i remember

00:23:38.260 watching our people encounter these whimsical east berlin style police check stops every corner

00:23:46.420 and filming their interactions oh boy was i mad sometimes i would call into the reporter also if

00:23:52.180 i felt they were they were being legally roughed up but the reason i could do that is i knew exactly

00:23:56.180 what was going on i had a personal interest because it was our reporters our company but millions of

00:24:03.060 people had a public interest and they were following along too and it's interesting that

00:24:09.220 when foreign news uh outlets wanted to know what was going on i'm sure the propagandists called up

00:24:15.140 cbc of course but so many and i'm not just talking about right-wing media like fox news like deutsche

00:24:22.020 well deutsche well as the name sounds it's a german it's actually a state uh broadcaster if you can

00:24:28.500 believe it why would a state broadcaster in germany why would sky news in australia why would um

00:24:37.300 yeah i think alexa did the french language state broadcaster also if i recall correctly

00:24:42.340 good memory there's so many i can't even keep track but why would they i mean there was this

00:24:46.820 great one of lincoln just standing in the street you know with this toucan because it was so cold

00:24:53.300 live live live broadcasting from the street well that gives you the answer why because even if

00:24:59.380 lincoln is not as seasoned a journalist as some of these superannuated you know regime journalists

00:25:06.020 at the cbc he actually was standing there he actually wasn't hiding under his desk in his uh tower

00:25:13.460 oh my god the peasants are coming the peasants are revolting who they most certainly are the truckers

00:25:19.300 are revolting and they certainly are revolting you know i mean the this i i i watched too much of that

00:25:27.540 show called game of thrones and the name of their capital city was king's landing and it was a squalid

00:25:33.780 corrupt incestuous capital and and that's what the good denizens of ottawa felt like when these

00:25:40.820 revolting truckers how dare they can't you keep your protest out out in the colonies why are you coming to

00:25:47.780 king's landing you know that's what it was like and uh and you you know the very first day of the

00:25:53.700 commission you had this low level government bureaucrat named zexy lee who was who was talking

00:26:02.180 about all the microaggressions and i worked for the government there was these truckers and they

00:26:05.780 honked and i really felt like i was assaulted oh my god zexy were you assaulted no but i sort of felt

00:26:11.380 like it well did anyone touch you no well were you afraid to go on the streets well no actually i spent a

00:26:16.500 lot of time out there and took a lot of photos and filmed them and talked to people but i was

00:26:19.700 terrified oh so you just thought they were low class because they were truckers not someone with

00:26:26.260 a fancy government unionized uh you know desk job doing it for services canada or whatever her job was

00:26:34.340 like it was such a classism thank you how dare you people don't know a know your place b don't you know

00:26:43.700 that your job is to listen to the media not be citizen media yeah and how dare you honk your

00:26:51.380 horns at us sure we have locked you in your homes for two years and now we're banning you from cross

00:26:56.900 border travel which is necessary for the truckers by the way we saw a minute ago justin trudeau lying

00:27:01.380 about 80 vaccinations i thought he said it was 90 he's changing his numbers now but we know that

00:27:06.420 christia freeland in her notes said with truckers it was less than 50 so they're lying they're lying to

00:27:12.660 you to try and make you feel like everyone's on board with this oh how dare you honk your horn

00:27:18.500 you honk your horn at me i mean i locked you in your house i banned you from cross-border travel i

00:27:23.220 banned you from taking airplanes or trains or boats in the second largest country in the world i banned

00:27:28.420 you from the public square i banned you from restaurants gyms and stores but how dare you honk your

00:27:33.540 horn sir do you not know who i am sir i am sexy lee was actually what who are you well i'm a 23 year

00:27:43.460 old who works for the government and i didn't like the honking not one bit sir yeah okay well better

00:27:51.060 throw the whole country into martial law because sexy lee heard a horn honk yeah she heard a horn honk

00:27:55.380 people where's your sense of compassion yeah you know that that line of classism and bigotry runs

00:28:03.220 through all of this they want those westerners that came to their fancy city to just stay away they

00:28:08.500 didn't like their trucks they didn't want to have to look at their trucks or the things that the

00:28:13.460 blue-collar people do for fun like have street parties play hockey and have hot tubs that grossed

00:28:18.580 them out what a boring city but also uh we saw in testimony and then it was supported in some

00:28:25.700 documents that black locks published today that they were really worried about having useful people

00:28:32.100 within the convoy and what i mean by that is they were frightened at the sheer number of caf canadian

00:28:39.700 armed forces active members and former members that were in the convoy they were sort of worried about

00:28:47.620 this insurrection which seems like absolute bigotry assuming that because you were in the caf you're

00:28:52.740 inherently um violent by nature but they couldn't get their heads around the fact that these people

00:28:58.900 who are willing to fight and die in a uniform with our flag on it would go to ottawa to defend freedom

00:29:05.460 here yeah you know what um true if you if you compare the hatred and fear that trudeau had for our

00:29:13.780 veterans with how he describes the people our veterans were fighting i if you how trudeau

00:29:20.260 talks about isis terrorists coming back to canary sorry to interrupt you mary montseff

00:29:25.620 the now former mp for peterborough she described them as her brothers the taliban remember they were

00:29:32.340 her brother yeah but our veterans are potential insurrectionists give me a break yeah um

00:29:39.060 um you know they despise the military except for as a pr i was just looking today i mean trudeau

00:29:46.180 was announcing billions more for foreign militaries in the indo-pacific he can't just he can't do a foreign

00:29:52.100 trip without spraying our money around uh he's given who knows how much to the ukrainian army but when

00:29:57.860 it comes to canadian soldiers um they're asking for more than he can give um it really is an eye

00:30:04.660 opener i um there was i think my if i had to name my favorite moment or least favorite moment in the

00:30:11.300 in the whole commissioner inquiry uh it's clip number seven and this trudeau does this sometimes

00:30:17.220 when he's had too much to to think and by himself without i mean he's used to having a script writer

00:30:23.140 around i mean he's a he's an actor i mean sometimes we think that actors are the personality they play in a

00:30:28.900 movie forgetting that no actors just read a script i mean occasionally some brilliant actors might ad

00:30:35.300 lib especially comedians they might ad lib some great movies are done that way but um generally

00:30:42.420 actors are uh as hitchcock said like cattle and they just do exactly what they're told which is why

00:30:48.740 you know the editor and the the script writer and the producer are so important um trudeau is like that

00:30:55.380 yes gerald butts writes a script for him katie telford writes a script for him he's very good at

00:31:00.660 memorizing a few lines um but whenever he but if you could ever get him to think about something new

00:31:06.900 he hasn't been briefed on then he says something really dumb like remember that question i guess it

00:31:12.580 was eight years ago now what country do you most admire there was no way he had ever been asked that

00:31:18.900 before in a formal setting so he actually thought about it and said well china because of their

00:31:24.980 basic dictatorship verbatim that's what he said so there's an actor free freelancing without a script

00:31:32.900 and that same thing happened this is clip number seven when he started thinking in a way that had

00:31:38.260 not been gamed out by his handlers and he says and he starts thinking yeah well maybe maybe you shouldn't

00:31:46.020 really be allowed to protest if if you're trying to change the world this is and then and then he says

00:31:51.140 did oh and then there's a little an alarm clock that went off in his head ring ring ring ring ring

00:31:56.340 you stepped in it you stepped in it alert alert alert or maybe who knows maybe actually had an earpiece

00:32:01.460 in it and he started walked it back like he did with the original china quote here take a look at clip

00:32:05.620 number seven but in terms of uh responding to their demands uh or or legitimizing them by engaging i'm

00:32:16.180 highlighting that i'm worried about setting a precedent uh that a blockade on wellington street

00:32:19.940 can can lead to changing public policy people need to be heard uh but we need to get that balance right

00:32:27.300 and then she agreed that i need to be cautious and i don't want to set any bad precedents

00:32:32.900 okay so fairly self-explanatory there's there's a a willingness to to discuss but you you were

00:32:38.660 concerned about setting a precedent where uh a blockade could equal a a change in public policy

00:32:46.020 is that fair yeah i mean i think we we have a robust functioning democracy and uh protests

00:32:55.060 public protests are an important part of making sure we're getting messages out there and canadians

00:33:00.420 are getting messages out there and highlighting how they feel about various issues uh but using protests

00:33:07.300 to demand uh changes to public policy um is something that that i think is is is worrisome

00:33:16.020 okay thank you mr although sorry to assert no no please go on you know protests if you're out

00:33:20.180 protesting that the government is you know shutting down a safe injection site or something you are

00:33:25.060 asking for changes in in public policy but there is a difference between uh occupations uh and and

00:33:33.460 and you know saying we're not going until this has changed uh in a way that is massively disruptive

00:33:41.220 uh and potentially dangerous uh versus just saying yeah we're protesting because we want uh we want

00:33:48.340 public policy to change and we're trying to convince people to get enough of them that politicians will

00:33:52.980 listen to enough people saying okay uh i'm going to lose votes if i don't change this that's the usual

00:33:59.220 way uh protests uh can be effective in in our democracies i don't think i've ever seen justin trudeau

00:34:07.220 condemn a protest from the left that's being disruptive black lives matter i don't know more

00:34:14.500 the tamil tigers greenpeace and other eco radicals against forestry against um the seal hunt against

00:34:25.540 pipelines against lng i don't think i've ever in my entire life seen justin trudeau speak out against

00:34:31.940 a left-wing protest disruptive or not shutting down the railroads in this country in fact they

00:34:36.820 literally sent negotiators to negotiate with the watsuitan um false tribal leaders not the real

00:34:44.740 ones um there is no protest on the left that trudeau won't bend the knee to and he realizes that he sort

00:34:51.060 of stepped in it there where he says right oh you know if you're if you're protesting to change public

00:34:55.140 policy and then something said oh but we do that too and he tried to draw a distinction they tried to

00:34:59.540 mop it up later didn't he yeah but he made it worse because then he hinted that it's not just

00:35:05.220 all protests that try to change public policy that are the problem it's just your protests that try to

00:35:10.980 change public policy that are the problem he said it's perfectly fine to protest the closing of a

00:35:16.580 safe injection site where people poison themselves into a slow death but he used a word occupation there

00:35:23.060 he said an occupation is not acceptable now i don't know about you ezra but i am old enough to remember

00:35:28.500 when he met with chief chicken noodle theresa spence who was occupying a park in ottawa and she

00:35:34.660 was lobbying to change public policy in fact she was lobbying for an end to a law that would have

00:35:40.660 brought accountability to her reserve that she was driving into the ground between her and her sticky

00:35:45.540 fingered boyfriend at the time um and he met with her he went into the occupation site went inside of

00:35:52.820 her tp and i don't know if they ate chicken noodle soup together what went on in there but he made it

00:35:59.380 of and he invited the media right to join him when he went to meet with her and he basically said why

00:36:06.340 isn't stephen harper meeting with her and and she was running her reserve at a wapiskat into the ground

00:36:12.580 there's mclean's there he is with chief theresa spence i forget the park that she was in in ottawa

00:36:18.580 but again this goes over to the point that actually that buffoon was making himself that

00:36:24.180 some occupations and protests are fine and some aren't and we're not allowed to have him but he is

00:36:29.460 yeah you know it's funny as eva was saying a moment ago um it's like we're watching two different

00:36:36.820 movies i mean the the regime media who we learned through this trucker inquiry were being managed on

00:36:42.020 a daily basis by the government um oh i'll i'll talk to this reporter she's really receptive i'll

00:36:48.900 talk to that like we need to get this reporter to use the word neo-nazi like you you could see that

00:36:54.740 you could see the orchestration of it as i said if there was a real national emergency you wouldn't

00:36:58.820 need to spin the media on it for the flq crisis which i acknowledge was an emergency 50 odd years ago

00:37:05.300 they were blowing up they were they were detonating bombs they were kidnapping people they were they

00:37:10.420 were murdering there was murder murder kidnapping um there there really was the flq really was

00:37:20.020 connected to cuba like there was a foreign meddler it was trying to cause a literal

00:37:26.900 insurrection in the province of quebec to destroy the sovereignty of the canadian government there

00:37:30.660 actually was i'm right now i think that the deployment of martial law was over broad over long

00:37:35.700 uh trudeau senior his rcmp took advantage arrested hundreds of people who had nothing to do with it

00:37:42.420 other than they were political enemies of pierre trudeau uh the rcmp famously burned down barns

00:37:48.980 of trudeau's political opponents in quebec so even back then the martial law was absolutely abused by

00:37:57.220 pierre trudeau and i'm sure that's how justin trudeau learned that you can really get away with

00:38:01.300 anything as long as you don't blink just don't blink just have your confidence and the other side will

00:38:08.260 huff and puff and you got a house of bricks they won't blow it down i think justin trudeau

00:38:13.380 learned from pierre trudeau that you can violate civil liberties and call yourself a liberal and the

00:38:18.900 media won't care if they didn't care 52 years ago when the only government media was the cbc they're

00:38:24.340 certainly not going to care today when all the media is on the government payroll well and that is the

00:38:30.260 reason the emergencies act was re rewritten from being the war measures act is because there was

00:38:35.860 an acknowledgement that it was over abroad it was used to attack political enemies instead of enemies

00:38:40.820 of the state and yet still even after all that even after that law had to be rewritten by the actions

00:38:46.580 of his father justin trudeau comes along and abuses the emergencies act against his peaceful opponents

00:38:52.900 and uh you know that the idea that these people were even remotely insurrectionist as keith

00:38:58.660 wilson lawyer for the convoy pointed out it's a hell of an insurrection when they don't even break a

00:39:03.220 window on the way out you know not even a window was broken in ottawa when every time that the convoy

00:39:12.180 was met with violence at the hands of the state that's one thing eva pointed out and i thought it was

00:39:16.340 very very poignant in her closing statement where she said at every opportunity the government chose state

00:39:23.540 force state violence instead of engagement and that was an act of choice every step of the way

00:39:28.500 but every time the government chose force the convoy didn't choose force when they were beaten with

00:39:34.980 clubs they never reacted and every step of the way the cops in the city of ottawa and a coots were

00:39:41.140 overwhelmed if those truckers and convoyers wanted to take the city of ottawa it was full of angry useful

00:39:49.380 people and they could have done it but they never did we saw how they peacefully ran off the rcmp and

00:39:55.060 coots they sang to them and they ran away these were not violent insurrectionists and shame on the

00:40:01.140 regime media for painting that them that way without a shred of evidence to the contrary yeah that's a

00:40:07.300 great point you know i i was down there on parliament hill and the center block of parliament that's the

00:40:13.300 that's the most famous one with the big peace tower that's right on the lawn um it was under

00:40:18.980 renovations and there was sort of a an eight foot high wooden fence the kind of thing you see around

00:40:24.260 a construction site sure um no one even touched it like you could have pushed that fence over and broken

00:40:30.980 through and stormed into the building i presume if you tried if you had a thousand people if you had a

00:40:40.020 hundred people maybe if you had 20 people who were dedicated but no one even touched the wooden wall

00:40:44.740 they didn't even touch it right and these are the kind of people who do things with their back in

00:40:49.140 their hands for a living they could take down a wall yeah like it's when i say wall it was just like you

00:40:53.780 you know around a construction site they put up a a fence with you know some two by fours and some

00:40:58.100 plywood yeah like it wasn't a riot wall it was a don't step here because you can get hurt as a

00:41:03.140 construction zone wall no one even touched that wall so the idea that they were like i saw pictures of

00:41:09.220 ray epps the fbi informant whipping up people to storm into congress and you know uh as a conservative

00:41:17.140 and a pro-trump conservative i acknowledge that they did enter into the actual buildings of congress

00:41:22.500 i also know that the police opened the doors and welcomed them in and there was a lot of funny

00:41:28.340 business but i i cannot dispute that they physically went into the congress itself they never even entered

00:41:35.860 a building in ottawa they never even tried to like like you say there was no window that was smashed

00:41:42.900 there was no unlocked door that was open nothing they were content to be in their trucks and on the

00:41:48.100 street well sheila i'm so glad you you helped us anchor our coverage on this for the past month i

00:41:54.500 appreciate that and you spent some of the time in ottawa but you like i say this was a very citizen

00:42:01.220 friendly project last question to you what was what was your impression of the airbnb pop-up studio

00:42:06.820 because we crowdfunded that we haven't received the final bill yet so for those who want to help out

00:42:12.100 not just for the airbnb cost us about 15 grand for the airbnb and then we were constantly flying

00:42:17.140 journalists in to the airbnb from uh they usually drive from toronto but we flew in some folks from

00:42:24.500 calgary and elsewhere so our total bill i haven't seen it yet it wouldn't surprise me if our total bill for

00:42:29.140 that pop-up studio for the month was 30 000 so we we made a big investment in it what was how was it

00:42:36.340 i mean just being in that house with the pop-up studio and the guys i it had a tiny bit of a

00:42:42.820 fraternity feeling not in that it was parties but you got a bunch of guys away from home having fun

00:42:47.620 working together um what was it like when you were there i thought it was great um you know it it's

00:42:54.740 modest it's very modest that's how we roll around here but you know it was great to have a fixed

00:43:00.020 location where we could bring the lawyers to help us analyze right what happened that day and it was

00:43:05.220 someplace warm instead of working out on the street which is new for our team that works in ottawa right

00:43:10.660 um so that was great but it was also as you say a place where you know it was collegial you know you're

00:43:15.860 working late you're leaving early when i was there selene and i were out of the airbnb like before

00:43:20.980 eight um but it was a place where you could save some money grab a coffee you know if you're working

00:43:26.500 late there was a little bit of food in the fridge um instead of having to constantly eat out so i

00:43:31.220 think it was it was a great way to help our team feel a little bit like they were at home while they

00:43:37.300 were gone for so long yeah you know i was there and in january february it was so bitter cold part of

00:43:44.020 my thinking was i don't know how cold it's going to be wasn't that bad but just to get out of the

00:43:48.580 cold just to warm your hands and feed up a bit and and of course batteries cell phone batteries

00:43:53.860 and camera batteries don't work as well when it's minus 20. so luckily it wasn't that brutal but

00:43:58.260 boy i wish we had that airbnb back during the convoy so well sheila thanks so much for joining us and

00:44:03.460 thanks for uh participating so uh deeply in the project over the last month we're going to take a

00:44:09.700 very quick commercial break and then we're going to come back with celine glass who started her work

00:44:15.700 with rebel news in the convoy she was embedded in the convoy as it made its way from calgary to ottawa

00:44:21.780 and she's been in ottawa for weeks covering it there when we come back we'll talk to sling glass

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00:45:07.940 common terrorist by justin trudeau's government for her role in the peaceful week's long street

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00:45:44.180 we started off this convoy calling it taking back our freedoms

00:45:48.260 but our freedoms are nobody's to take away so we're going to restore everybody's freedoms

00:46:02.820 you know lots of people came here wanting to only do a day and uh the word with all the truckers is

00:46:15.380 they're now staying for many days you know like a lot of people now are planning on days and days in

00:46:21.220 auto us so we are here to end them out i am not leaving so we get what we want we're not going to give

00:46:29.860 up

00:46:47.380 well very exciting i tell you the trucker convoy was what finally broke the fever of the lockdowns in

00:46:53.700 this country broke the group think showed that not everyone was being compliant and celine glass was

00:46:58.660 there from the beginning great to see you again you're back in alberta but you spent a lot of time

00:47:03.220 in our pop-up studio that's what i'm calling it in ottawa just it was very close to the to the hearing

00:47:08.900 like it really was like a three-minute walk or something i think that really made it useful so

00:47:13.940 you didn't have to take an uber you didn't have to take a cab and it wasn't brutally cold so i i thought

00:47:18.740 it was really convenient it was also convenient the other way around for lawyers and others and witnesses

00:47:23.620 from the commissioner inquired just to walk to our little airbnb i thought it worked out pretty well

00:47:30.100 yeah i did too i think it was fantastic yeah the the back and forth commute was super short um

00:47:35.140 especially for those early days getting to the commission and as you said it made it very convenient

00:47:40.020 a lot of the lawyers that we had for the the freedom corp organizers um as well as i guess um yeah we

00:47:47.060 have like andrew lawton on there too so any of our friends that we talked to they were all really really

00:47:52.020 close to it which worked out perfectly so yeah and the fact that it was sort of obviously in in

00:47:57.220 the kitchen i don't think anyone minds i mean everyone has conversations in the kitchen i thought

00:48:01.300 i had a homemade kind of feel to it uh so how long were you there all together

00:48:06.500 um i believe i was there for 22 days straight 22 or 23 days yeah i don't know if you had a chance to

00:48:13.460 see any of the city uh while you're out there i mean that that commit commission was pretty intense

00:48:18.660 it worked some weekend days too didn't it oh it did for sure and it's also post-production

00:48:23.620 as well right so wrapping up those reports making sure that we're planned for the week ahead

00:48:27.540 the daily content etc so yeah there wasn't a lot of downtime and i by the way i give the judge some

00:48:32.820 credit everyone's piling on him he he had a a very difficult job imagine herding all those cats

00:48:39.380 everyone has their own lawyer everyone's you know and all under a very intense time pressure from what i

00:48:45.300 saw i mean i didn't watch it as intensely as you did but from what i saw i'm going to give the judge

00:48:49.940 certainly the benefit of the doubt i mean um i thought he he certainly tried to to be even

00:48:56.020 handed that's how i felt i know there were some moments that it didn't quite seem that way i want

00:49:00.660 to play for you just a couple of clips and get your reaction um here's a funny one i know you're from

00:49:06.500 alberta like i am originally clip number five you know jason kenney who used to be a really close

00:49:13.220 friend of mine and used to be the one of the leading freedom politicians in this country he

00:49:17.460 he really fell down on this one and um he started talking like trudeau you know he was calling the

00:49:26.420 truckers crazies or conspiracy theorists he was using trudeau's ottawa language in alberta it just

00:49:32.980 sounded not just hollow it sounded like a kind of mutiny against albertans it was sort of crazy

00:49:38.820 clip number five that is i think i'm gonna miss clip number five um has kenny uh reportedly

00:49:46.580 describing the alberta truckers many of whom i've met and they're the most straight-up guys you'll ever

00:49:51.540 see play clip five i'd like your reaction this lee boldened or digging in uh to their illegal behaviors

00:50:01.700 and that enforcement of public order is actually a threat and this is actually something that

00:50:09.940 jason kenney brought up at the fmm highlighting that these are not rational actors there are

00:50:15.780 conspiracy theories and he was concerned as we were that the invocation of the emergencies act

00:50:22.180 could have people who are irrational overreact but at the same time um we had to balance that risk

00:50:30.740 against the risk that uh people who uh were already starting to get fed up and engage in

00:50:38.660 encounter protests uh would start taking more and more into their own hands which was a greater risk i

00:50:44.900 think you know jason kenney had decided that these people were the bad guys and uh and i'm sure he he

00:50:53.700 believed that i think he was surrounded uh with people who were sort of in a bunker mentality at that point

00:50:59.700 he wasn't getting outside opinions it was like the palace guard uh in you know cut off from the

00:51:05.620 world and they were probably relying on official i don't i just thought it was a it was sad to see a

00:51:11.460 freedom fighter like jason kenney become really trudeau's man in canada what do you think

00:51:17.220 i totally agree with you i think it's always really harsh um it's a harsh reality to come to

00:51:21.540 when you see that there's somebody that has the potential to really stand up for people

00:51:25.460 that like has those traits in the beginning um it was like the first time when when we saw

00:51:30.020 on video that he you know denounced the vaccine passport and he didn't even know what it was

00:51:35.060 allegedly and then you know what happened in alberta the same as everywhere else in canada so i think

00:51:40.900 that he could have been our greatest opportunity looking back to have a different reality when it came

00:51:46.020 to how the alberton government um handled the lockdown restrictions and mandates but gosh listening to

00:51:52.500 trudeau again i i'm not fully out of the ottawa mindscape i feel like i have hives after listening

00:51:58.580 to trudeau talk again but uh it's harsh it's really harsh and and i kind of think i mean trudeau's kind

00:52:05.460 of just throwing him under the bus as well like i kind of feel bad you know like just i i know that he

00:52:10.980 touched on a lot of other people's testimonies but i i dare say i don't think that it was as brutal or

00:52:15.620 harsh as that and regardless of what jason kenney did it's probably because trudeau knows he's from

00:52:21.380 alberta so why not right just salt to a little bit of extra pain alberta could have been the

00:52:27.060 florida of canada could have been especially since health care is so um clearly a provincial

00:52:32.580 jurisdiction under the canadian constitution section 92 it really is up to alberta and for

00:52:38.980 whatever reason and i think it's because jason kenney always had his eye on returning to ottawa

00:52:43.700 as prime minister so he didn't want to be too province oriented too he didn't he was worried that

00:52:48.980 in the future that would make him look too small time and too partisan and not national and grandeur

00:52:54.500 enough and he missed the opportunity well listen selene it's great to see you thanks again for uh

00:53:00.660 serving such a big tour of duty away from home we're going to play a very quick ad and when we come

00:53:06.500 back we'll have your colleague our montreal-based reporter alexa lavoie so selene we'll say thanks

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00:54:37.300 tamara leach as she is treated like a common terrorist by justin trudeau's government for

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00:55:11.620 remember free tamara well tamara leach is certainly on my mind as she is not anywhere near done her

00:55:22.740 entanglement with the law she's been charged with inciting mischief which is really the most minor

00:55:28.660 offense to be found in the criminal code it's the kind of thing that you know if you vandalize a sign

00:55:33.780 you're you know you're there's no time in custody there's likely no criminal record you're just told

00:55:38.740 to paint the sign um get rid of the graffiti and apologize to the owner that's what attempt incitement

00:55:44.660 to mischief is the fact that she served nearly 50 days in prison is outrageous but she's not the

00:55:49.700 only victim of overwinning police alexa lavoie joins us now alexa great to see you and you were

00:55:55.860 on my mind during the commission of inquiry because for all the talk of the potential violence of the

00:56:01.940 truckers there was no violence from the truckers there there was no shooting there was no smashing

00:56:07.140 there was no rioting but there was a person who was shot and it was you you were shot with a riot gun

00:56:15.620 you were hit by riot police and so the violence came from the government side and as you know we're

00:56:24.020 suing the government people who don't know what i'm referring to can go to stand with alexa.com in

00:56:30.500 fact i just want to show a brief clip of that and i'm sorry you probably hate to see it and i hate to

00:56:36.020 look at it but we can't forget it we can't let it be swept under the rug we can't let trudeau gaslight

00:56:42.020 us if you know what i mean here's a clip of that terrible moment and i'll come back and i'll share

00:56:46.820 some quick thoughts with people and then i'll bring you in alexa it's great to see you here's

00:56:50.260 here's a clip of that terrible day and i'm sorry to show this because it was a an atrocity that was

00:56:54.580 done to you but people have to see it take a look

00:57:03.060 what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing

00:57:06.580 what are you doing hold him

00:57:08.580 what are you doing oh

00:57:21.060 Oh!

00:57:23.060 Oh!

00:57:25.060 Oh no!

00:57:27.060 Oh!

00:57:29.060 There you go.

00:57:31.060 You all right?

00:57:33.060 Take care.

00:57:35.060 Bring it out. Bring it out. Come on.

00:57:37.060 Oh my God!

00:57:39.060 Yeah!

00:57:41.060 Oh!

00:57:43.060 Oh!

00:57:45.060 Bring it down there.

00:57:47.060 Bring it to the left.

00:57:49.060 Oh!

00:57:51.060 Oh!

00:57:53.060 Wait!

00:57:55.060 Someone got shot in the head!

00:57:57.060 Oh!

00:57:59.060 Oh!

00:58:01.060 Bring it to the left here.

00:58:03.060 Come on, man.

00:58:05.060 Just atrocious.

00:58:07.060 You were shot. You were hit

00:58:09.060 and you were shot with a kind of

00:58:11.060 anti-riot weapon

00:58:13.060 in your leg at point-blank

00:58:15.060 range. I'm very sorry

00:58:17.060 that happened to you. As you know, we're suing

00:58:19.060 the police and we've discovered

00:58:21.060 that the police knew who you were.

00:58:23.060 We discovered from the police

00:58:25.060 notes they knew who you were. They knew your name.

00:58:27.060 And one other thing we discovered

00:58:29.060 is that the police that day were

00:58:31.060 helping a lot of people with medical issues.

00:58:33.060 People, a heart attack.

00:58:35.060 Someone who slipped and fell.

00:58:37.060 Someone who had hypothermia.

00:58:39.060 Police shot you.

00:58:41.060 They obviously knew that they shot you.

00:58:43.060 And they did not offer you any help,

00:58:45.060 did they?

00:58:47.060 No, no.

00:58:49.060 So, I collapsed just like a couple of minutes after.

00:58:53.060 And no one came to me.

00:58:56.060 Only protesters came.

00:58:58.060 A former nurse who lost her job

00:59:02.060 actually took care of me.

00:59:04.060 And I remember another man that was there.

00:59:08.060 They washed my face with water

00:59:10.060 because I was full of,

00:59:12.060 I think it was cayenne paper

00:59:15.060 or something that was burning my face

00:59:17.060 and my body and my skin.

00:59:20.060 And I remember I had it in my mouth and my eyes.

00:59:24.060 And it's why I was like crying as much,

00:59:26.060 but I saw because I was hurt.

00:59:30.060 But thanks to these two

00:59:32.060 and all beautiful people

00:59:34.060 who actually helped me out

00:59:36.060 because probably without them

00:59:38.060 I would be like in the snow alone.

00:59:42.060 I'm so sorry that happened to you.

00:59:44.060 I have to say that in the nearly eight years

00:59:47.060 of Rebel News being a company,

00:59:49.060 that was the worst moment

00:59:51.060 in our entire company's history.

00:59:52.060 That was the worst thing that ever happened to us.

00:59:54.060 The worst thing anyone had ever done to us.

00:59:56.060 David Menzies was roughed up pretty badly

00:59:58.060 by Trudeau's bodyguards a few months earlier.

01:00:01.060 But to actually be shot and beaten.

01:00:04.060 And for the police, they knew,

01:00:06.060 the reason I say they knew who you were

01:00:08.060 is because we have, we're suing them.

01:00:11.060 And in the course of that lawsuit

01:00:12.060 we have received their notes

01:00:14.060 and they knew exactly who you were.

01:00:16.060 And there were thousands of people,

01:00:18.060 protesters, journalists, observers in the streets.

01:00:23.060 And there were thousands of police.

01:00:25.060 And the coincidence that you were the only one shot,

01:00:28.060 I do not believe that's a coincidence.

01:00:30.060 Like I say, they knew who you were.

01:00:32.060 And then once they committed the atrocity of shooting you,

01:00:35.060 they committed a second atrocity of literally not helping.

01:00:40.060 Like I said, they helped other people all day.

01:00:42.060 We see that in their notes.

01:00:44.060 But they refused to help you.

01:00:46.060 And we are seeking justice for people

01:00:48.060 who want to be involved in that.

01:00:50.060 They can go to StandWithAlexa.com.

01:00:52.060 I'm sorry to mention that.

01:00:53.060 It's just been on my mind.

01:00:54.060 Especially since clip number six.

01:00:56.060 Alexa, I'd like your reaction to this.

01:00:58.060 This is a clip of Trudeau saying,

01:01:01.060 he had to invoke martial law because what if

01:01:05.060 some little old lady got hurt?

01:01:07.060 And all I could think about was the police horses

01:01:11.060 stomping on that little old lady

01:01:13.060 and the police roughing up that short old man

01:01:17.060 and the police shooting you.

01:01:19.060 And Trudeau's making it like he was the one

01:01:21.060 standing against violence.

01:01:23.060 All the violence in Ottawa came from the government.

01:01:28.060 All the violence came from them.

01:01:30.060 Here, take a look at this clip of Trudeau.

01:01:33.060 When there's a national emergency

01:01:35.060 and serious threats of violence to Canadians

01:01:37.060 and you have a tool that you should use,

01:01:40.060 how would I explain it to the family

01:01:42.060 of a police officer who was killed

01:01:44.060 or a grandmother who got run over

01:01:47.060 trying to stop a truck

01:01:49.060 or a protester who was killed?

01:01:52.060 If I hadn't used the tools,

01:01:55.060 if one of the protestors,

01:01:57.060 one of the occupiers had been killed

01:02:01.060 in a violent clash with someone else,

01:02:04.060 getting this situation under control

01:02:07.060 and protecting the safety of all Canadians

01:02:10.060 is a priority.

01:02:11.060 What a sociopathic liar.

01:02:13.060 There were no serious threats of violence.

01:02:15.060 We know that because none were made

01:02:17.060 and all the police forces confirmed that.

01:02:20.060 The threats of someone being killed.

01:02:22.060 How would that possibly happen

01:02:24.060 if the only violence came from the government?

01:02:26.060 A grandmother trying to stop a truck

01:02:29.060 from running over her.

01:02:30.060 I don't even understand that weird hypothetical situation.

01:02:33.060 How about a grandmother being stomped on

01:02:35.060 by an RCMP horse for no reason at all?

01:02:38.060 Just absolutely outrageous.

01:02:39.060 How did it feel when you saw that prince of lies

01:02:44.060 take the witness stand?

01:02:46.060 Well, first of all, you used speculation

01:02:49.060 for make the situation worse than it was.

01:02:52.060 Just trying to create in the mind of people

01:02:56.060 like that maybe this will have happened

01:02:59.060 if I didn't have like invoked the emergency act.

01:03:03.060 But the only thing that I was thinking

01:03:05.060 when I was talking is like,

01:03:07.060 Candice Sarah was in the audience

01:03:11.060 watching him saying that in her face

01:03:14.060 when she was trampled by a horse

01:03:16.060 and the SIU dropped the case on her

01:03:20.060 because her injury was not enough severe

01:03:23.060 to continue the investigation on her.

01:03:27.060 The SIU, that's a kind of internal affairs.

01:03:30.060 That's the special investigations unit

01:03:32.060 whenever police are violent against someone

01:03:34.060 they come and investigate.

01:03:35.060 You're saying the SIU dropped the case

01:03:38.060 against the police who stomped on her

01:03:40.060 because her injuries weren't that bad.

01:03:42.060 That's what you said there, right?

01:03:44.060 Outrageous. Sorry to interrupt you.

01:03:45.060 I just want to explain to people what SIU was.

01:03:47.060 Keep going, Alexa.

01:03:49.060 So I had a talk and I have like a

01:03:54.060 interview with her that's coming up on

01:03:56.060 how she had been so far.

01:03:58.060 And I saw her.

01:03:59.060 She was crying about like she's still hurt.

01:04:05.060 She's hurt by also what the government did.

01:04:09.060 And she lost a lot of faith.

01:04:13.060 And it was really sad to see this

01:04:16.060 and the hypocrisy of Justin Trudeau's testimony

01:04:19.060 all day long.

01:04:21.060 But I was also surprised that

01:04:23.060 usually, you know, it takes so much time

01:04:25.060 to answer the question.

01:04:27.060 But I was surprised how fast

01:04:29.060 he was answering the question that day.

01:04:32.060 And that he answered actually really

01:04:36.060 mostly truthful for some of the question.

01:04:39.060 I think I think what was irritating to me was

01:04:44.060 he showed what was in his mind.

01:04:47.060 His you could sum up every one of his answers was

01:04:51.060 I think very low.

01:04:52.060 I have a low opinion of Canadians.

01:04:54.060 I'm afraid of Canadians.

01:04:56.060 I'm scared of them.

01:04:58.060 And I thought it was best to be as

01:05:01.060 firm as possible with them.

01:05:02.060 So when he says I was afraid of

01:05:05.060 a grandmother being driven over by a truck,

01:05:08.060 that's an absurd thing to say.

01:05:11.060 So is that true or false?

01:05:13.060 Well, I think if it's true,

01:05:15.060 it shows what he thinks of us.

01:05:17.060 It shows what he thinks of the peaceful protestors.

01:05:22.060 Violent protestors fighting with each other.

01:05:25.060 There was no violence amongst the protestors.

01:05:27.060 But but he thinks, oh, they're they're truck drivers.

01:05:29.060 Of course, they're violent.

01:05:30.060 They're just a bunch of drunk yobs.

01:05:33.060 And and and especially when he said I never called

01:05:37.060 unvaccinated names.

01:05:39.060 Yeah.

01:05:40.060 And I was like, this is such a lie because

01:05:43.060 we have so much proof of so many excerpt

01:05:46.060 of video where we saw him calling

01:05:50.060 unvaccinated names.

01:05:51.060 Yeah.

01:05:52.060 What?

01:05:53.060 Should we tolerate them?

01:05:54.060 They're racist, misogynist.

01:05:55.060 The things you said.

01:05:56.060 Well, Alexa, thank you for covering this.

01:05:58.060 And I'm so glad.

01:05:59.060 You really shined during the convoy itself,

01:06:03.060 especially you allowed us to talk to the Quebec truckers

01:06:07.060 because, of course, Ottawa is just across the river from Quebec.

01:06:10.060 So there were a lot of Quebec truckers there.

01:06:13.060 And some of them didn't speak English.

01:06:15.060 So you were able to talk with them.

01:06:17.060 And it was very encouraging for me as a English Canadian,

01:06:21.060 originally from the West, to see that Quebec truckers,

01:06:25.060 French speaking truckers were they cared about freedom, too.

01:06:29.060 I really was grateful for that.

01:06:30.060 So thank you not only for your coverage during the last month

01:06:33.060 of the Trucker Commission, but for your original work

01:06:35.060 with the trucker convoy itself.

01:06:37.060 Great to see you, my friend.

01:06:39.060 Great to see you, too.

01:06:40.060 Thank you.

01:06:41.060 All right.

01:06:42.060 Sandra Lavoie, who suffered greatly at the hands of Trudeau's riot police.

01:06:48.060 And we stand with her.

01:06:49.060 And as you know, we are seeking justice in the courts for her.

01:06:52.060 Well, this wraps up our recap of the last month's trucker commissioning of inquiry.

01:07:01.060 I should tell you that while the public judicial hearings are over,

01:07:05.060 there will be no more witnesses in the form there has been.

01:07:08.060 There will be another phase of the commission of inquiry

01:07:11.060 where they have sort of a public policy submissions section.

01:07:16.060 I'm not as familiar with it as I should be and as I will be.

01:07:19.060 But just because the court style inquiry is done, they are not yet done.

01:07:24.060 There will be more work.

01:07:25.060 And we'll cover that as it goes forward.

01:07:27.060 Thanks again to everyone behind the scenes who put...

01:07:30.060 Sorry, what's that?

01:07:32.060 We have a few super chats I hear in my ear.

01:07:35.060 Let me make sure I read those out.

01:07:37.060 I'm going to find those on my bat phone here.

01:07:44.060 And those are in live stream, are they?

01:07:50.060 Okay, I've got them in a number of formats.

01:07:52.060 Everyone wants to make sure I don't miss them.

01:07:53.060 Our friend, Fraser McBurney, who I had the pleasure of having dinner with a couple of months ago, says,

01:07:58.060 Fraser and all the crew of Rebel News, I want to congratulate you on the fine work you did to bring the world the truth.

01:08:02.060 Let's hope the commissioner brings the right verdict.

01:08:04.060 Yeah, well, I'm optimistic.

01:08:06.060 Maybe that means I'm a fool.

01:08:08.060 Construction cronies, $10.

01:08:10.060 Woohoo, came here from YouTube.

01:08:12.060 Glad we can donate here.

01:08:13.060 Hope Elon fixes YouTube next.

01:08:15.060 Well, I hope YouTube feels the need to become more free to compete with Twitter.

01:08:19.060 Or is he a five bucks?

01:08:21.060 Did you notice his distraction after Ava talked about testimony of harm to regular people?

01:08:25.060 He asked for repetition, appeared to have lost focus.

01:08:29.060 Yeah.

01:08:30.060 Well, thank you for those super chats.

01:08:33.060 And that is a source of income for us.

01:08:35.060 As you know, we've been demonetized by YouTube, but we fight on with the strength of your support.

01:08:41.060 If you want to help us in other ways, you can also go to trucker commission.com.

01:08:46.060 That way you can help us pay for the Airbnb and the travel.

01:08:50.060 I haven't received the final bill for that.

01:08:51.060 It wouldn't surprise me.

01:08:52.060 It's around $30,000, which sounds enormous.

01:08:55.060 But between the travel and the accommodation and the food and the gear, that's just how it is.

01:09:00.060 That's our show for today.

01:09:02.060 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home.

01:09:07.060 Goodbye.

01:09:08.060 And keep fighting for freedom.

01:09:11.060 So are you drawing a distinction there between, okay, the premiers may say it's under control here, but that doesn't mean it's under control everywhere.

01:09:20.060 So they would have had to come to you with something that would have solved the big problem as you saw it?

01:09:25.060 Is that?

01:09:26.060 I think there just would have been a sense that the measures I was proposing weren't going to be useful or effective.

01:09:39.060 And what I heard on the contrary was concerns that we'd shared that this might inflame the protesters to declare a public order emergency and bring in martial law, which was one of the concerns or that they would interpret it as that.

01:09:59.060 Of course, it wasn't martial law, and it did not suspend people's fundamental rights and freedoms.

01:10:04.060 I just want to go afterwards.

01:10:05.060 And let's go through to a situation.

01:10:10.060 I'm going to prepare for that process here!

01:10:13.060 What about the такой challenge doing?

Rebel News Podcast - November 28, 2022

BREAKDOWN： Trucker Commission Rebel wrap-up with Ezra Levant & special guest Eva Chipiuk

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