In this episode, Michelle Sterling from the Friends of Science Society joins me to talk about the Canada-France Climate and Environment Partnership, the Alberta inquiry into foreign-funded attacks on Alberta's oil and gas industry, and the Davos climate summit.
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00:01:27.460Did you know that there is something called a Canada-France climate partnership?
00:01:32.980The mainstream media hasn't had a lot to say about it, have they?
00:01:36.580I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:01:39.420The Canada-France Climate and Environment Partnership, as it's known, was signed in 2018.
00:02:02.500Under the partnership, the parties have committed to pricing carbon emissions and developing green finance initiatives.
00:02:11.460Now, I'm sure you, like me, you haven't heard a lot about this.
00:02:15.100While our largest trading partner, the United States, is busy repealing regulations and refusing to cripple their own economy with a carbon tax.
00:02:23.060Now, Canada instead is making green deals with small trading partners like France to cripple our oil industry back home with a carbon tax.
00:02:31.420While Canadians have rebelled against the imposition of a carbon tax, the Liberals in Ottawa were disregarding the will of the people and fighting non-carbon taxing provinces in court
00:02:42.140because the Liberals signed on to an agreement with France and no one's been talking about it in the mainstream media.
00:02:50.240The one really great analysis that I've seen about this climate partnership has been from our friends at Friends of Science Society.
00:02:58.420And given the focus on climate change at Davos at the recently concluded World Economic Forum, I thought, let's have them on.
00:03:06.060So joining me tonight to talk about the Canada-France Climate and Environment Partnership,
00:03:11.680all the weirdness at Davos, and several other really great reports being put out by the Friends of Science Society
00:03:19.740is my friend and good friend to the show, Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.
00:03:24.260So joining me now from Calgary is my friend, Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science Society.
00:03:38.880Michelle, it's been a while since you've been on the show, and I wanted to have you back on.
00:03:44.120There's so much in climate change news to talk about.
00:03:48.200The first thing I want to talk about is closer to home.
00:03:51.160We often talk about these climate change issues as, you know, this global scheme to control our lives, and really it is.
00:04:25.700But presently, we see many NDP people are speaking out against the Alberta inquiry.
00:04:32.080Lots of people are saying, oh, it's a waste of $30 million.
00:04:34.780They don't seem to notice that there are $19 billion in pipeline projects stopped in Canada because of the tar sands campaign.
00:04:42.020So last fall, we issued a report called Fear and Loathing, how Alberta went from being a prize, a precious jewel in the Canadian technological and engineering world, to a pariah worldwide.
00:04:57.000And in it, we simply go step by step through the development of this foreign-funded campaign, which also became a domestically funded campaign.
00:05:06.560But its roots are in the foreign funding and how it has incrementally damaged our reputation worldwide.
00:05:14.000And it's really just a green trade war.
00:05:17.540Like, you know, many Canadians are very geopolitically unaware because our closest geopolitical partner is the U.S.
00:05:24.560But, you know, if you were in Europe and you understood, oh, Europe buys all of its oil, gas, and coal from the Middle East and dictator nations, you know, funny they don't do business with us, you know, then things start to make a bit more sense if you look at the broader picture.
00:05:41.500We also did a video related to that about Sipora Berman at COP in Madrid, where she was claiming that she's going to get a fossil fuel, what did she call it, like injunction worldwide.
00:05:59.260So, you know, these are serious things because, you know, we need fossil fuels.
00:06:23.000So, anyway, those two items are out there.
00:06:26.500Hope people have a look at them, consider them.
00:06:28.400You don't have to agree with us, of course.
00:06:29.920But, you know, I think when you see the bigger picture drawn in those reports and that video, you'll get a sense of really what's going on.
00:06:38.840You know, when Berman was in Madrid for the UN Climate Change Conference, same time myself and Kian were, she was protesting the Tech Frontier Oil Sands Mine, which has agreements with every Indigenous group that it remotely touches, and even some that it doesn't.
00:07:00.180And yet Berman shows up there with people from Indigenous groups who are very obviously, based on their cultural garb, from the West Coast, i.e. Haida Gwaii.
00:07:11.040And they're protesting against the jobs of the Indigenous people in the Fort McMurray area.
00:07:28.140And, you know, we live in a society with many conflicting needs and demands, but a fundamental thing is that people do need energy and they need jobs, and there's nobody else in our competitors out there who are sacrificing themselves in the way that Canadians are over climate change.
00:08:08.060Yeah, you know, there are some people who are evil in this, and there are some people who are not evil but just wrong and sorely misled, and their opposition might come from a good place, but they don't have all the facts.
00:08:19.480Now, speaking of facts and attacks on a major Alberta industry, and I think this all ties together with that global push for veganism, this, like, this desire from, I don't know, from above, smarter people to have us all be malnourished and cold, and that we're all just supposed to eat bugs to change the climate.
00:08:46.560Robert Lyman has an incredible report out about the domestic cattle industry and how it is not the greenhouse gas criminal that the pro-vegan left would have us believe.
00:09:03.240Well, Robert goes through a lot of the sort of calculations of GHG emissions and such like.
00:09:09.100And again, a lot of the criticisms of things like agriculture and the cattle industry come from people who sit in a room and they do math and say, oh, look, these emissions come from there.
00:09:20.220But when you look at Albrecht Glatzel's work, and he's worked with the World Federation of Agriculture, he's from Paraguay, he's an agricultural expert.
00:09:29.980You know, he finds that the IPCC never ever did a baseline on the emissions, GHG emissions of feral wild stock.
00:09:38.680So, like, there used to be 60 to 100 million buffalo on the plains before European civilization moved in.
00:09:47.460Before we figured out how delicious they were.
00:09:49.700Oh, well, I think people were eating them then, and they were.
00:09:56.500But, you know, there wasn't a baseline ever done by the IPCC.
00:10:00.540So a lot of these calculations are, again, completely off base.
00:10:04.260And what people don't realize who are calling for veganism is that cattle consume lots of food that people can't eat, and they turn it into food that people can't can eat.
00:10:16.380I mean, this is always, and you can look at Jared Diamond's work on guns, germs, and steel.
00:10:22.340He shows how settled agrarian communities became so capable and powerful compared to some other more nomadic or primitive communities.
00:10:35.880Because they didn't have to work so hard for their source of food, and that food became, you know, domesticated animals.
00:10:44.720And fortunately for Western civilization, most of the domesticated livestock or domesticable livestock were in that fertile crescent.
00:10:53.840So things like pigs, goats, sheep, horses, cattle.
00:11:01.140And he compares it to the people in Papua New Guinea who, to get their protein, they have to cut down these huge trees, cut them in half, core them out, take that core, pound it into a powder, dry it, then mix it with water.
00:11:16.300By the time they're done, there's no, you know, the energy expended to do that is about equivalent or less than what they get to eat.
00:11:24.080So when you have cattle that can go and graze on pasture that you can't eat, you can't eat grass, you know, but they can eat it, then you can get milk, then you can get meat.
00:11:35.480So, and those are high-protein sources of food.
00:11:40.420And the cattle themselves actually return the grasslands to good health because they poop everywhere, you know, it's a self-fertilizing process.
00:11:50.780And, of course, you know, obviously you have to have some good management skills of the land, but most of our farmers are very well educated today.
00:11:58.580You know, they all have BAs and science degrees in agriculture and land management, soil management.
00:12:05.400So it's really a science now that's easily 100 years old.
00:12:09.720So, you know, the vegans are, if you want to be a vegan, go ahead.
00:12:15.080But, you know, I love it when people tell me, oh, well, I live in Norway and veganism is good, or that author from Sweden, Lund University, everyone should be a vegan.
00:12:23.840Well, where do you get your vegetables from in winter, girl?
00:12:26.900You know, they come on a container ship, on a truck, on a train, somebody's bringing them to you and they're being farmed in some warm place.
00:12:36.820You know, that's a great point because a lot of, well, I don't think I know a vegan who doesn't say, well, I am a vegan for this, this, this reason, and it's good for the earth.
00:12:53.540I mean, I don't care if my pineapple comes from somewhere.
00:12:56.020I don't think greenhouse gas emissions are bad.
00:12:58.200But if you do, then your pineapple that's coming from, you know, the tropics all the way to Norway, for your smoothie, you're supposed to care about those things.
00:13:11.700But they do care and they say that's one of the reasons they go vegan.
00:13:14.960And yet they can't make that connection.
00:13:17.640Perhaps they need more protein in their diet.
00:13:20.100And on that point, on that point of pineapples, Lush Cosmetics has always been a virulent hater of the oil sands.
00:13:27.760They even put together an Alberta wild rose bath bomb at one point and contributed all the money to these tar sands campaigners.
00:13:36.200Well, you know, where do they get their pineapples from to make their face mask?
00:13:40.940You know, how many eggs do they go through to make some of the things that they, you know, so self-righteously discuss about being natural and good to the earth?
00:14:08.680I think it was Robert Lyman that did this one also.
00:14:11.360And it is about how climate policies disproportionately affect rural Canada.
00:14:19.300Now, you know that, and I know that, and I think anybody who has to drive to town to get a jug of milk knows that.
00:14:24.300But the numbers were really broken down and using what I thought was an interesting choice, eastern Canadian communities, because eastern Canadian communities are tending to vote liberal.
00:14:36.640So, they're the ones choosing these climate policies, and yet they're the ones being disproportionately hurt by them.
00:14:43.640Well, you know, he did a very interesting report because he looked at three rural communities in the Atlantic region.
00:14:52.420So, he looked at Cet-Ile in Quebec, which has the Aluminier Alouette, and he looked at Iron Core Company of Labrador City in Newfoundland and Labrador, and he looked at the Greymont plant in Havelock, New Brunswick.
00:15:07.120And some of these communities don't have huge employment, not necessarily a big loss of employment, but, for instance, the Greymont plant is the third largest producer of lime, which is necessary for cement in North America.
00:15:22.060So, all of these types of production, aluminum, iron ore, and lime, are extremely CO2 intensive.
00:15:29.460And, at some point, these climate policies are going to go rolling into those little towns and crush them, and they will also destroy many of the coordinated industries that rely on these services and products in that region.
00:15:44.380So, it's something that people don't really think about, especially, you know, again, because of the Tar Sands campaign, everybody down east is going, yeah, well, you know, so what, Alberta?
00:15:54.100You made your own bed, now you have to lie in it.
00:15:56.320Well, guess what, gang, you know, you're in the same bed, because, effectively, the climate change policies in Canada are a threat to Canada.
00:16:06.580They will crush our economy and destroy regions, and we already see that all kinds of rifts are cropping up because of these policies that are destroying regional economies, but it's coming to your town, too.
00:16:21.820Yeah, and I think the beauty of Albertans is we probably won't say, I told you so.
00:16:27.860We'll probably say, okay, great, now join us in the fight.
00:16:31.960Yes, yes, we'll say it's not something that people should be happy about.
00:16:38.160We don't see it happening there yet, but nobody here will be happy to see other people lose their job.
00:16:43.800Yeah, it won't be long before some of the people who chose the feel-goodery of Justin Trudeau's Liberals, it won't be long until they're mugged by reality.
00:16:55.280And I don't take any pleasure or joy in it, but I do hope that they can make the connection that this is what you voted for, so let's never do that again.
00:17:07.400Right, and later on I want to talk about some of the faulty perceptions within the climate change debate that are driving these extreme policies, but, you know, once people understand them, they'll realize that we actually don't need to implement those policies to be good to the earth or to save the planet.
00:17:28.540Sure, I think the next thing I have on my list is the Canada-France climate deal.
00:17:38.780Most people outside of you and I and people who eat, sleep and breathe climate policy, because I don't want it to control my life, I don't think people know what this entails.
00:17:55.200The mainstream media has not reported on it, and can anybody explain to me the irony of Canada signing a climate deal with France when France is embroiled in protests from their people, violent protests, where people are showing up with torches and marching in the street because they are resisting the climate policies of France, and yet we're signing a deal with them saying, yeah, you know what, hand in hand, you and me, Canada and France, Trudeau and Macron.
00:18:25.200Yeah, well, you know, the climate deal was signed right about the time that Keystone XL suspended, or sorry, that Trans Mountain suspended operations.
00:18:37.200And possibly they knew this was coming or maybe the atmosphere was just too difficult for them anyway.
00:18:44.480So, you know, Justin Trudeau made a big speech in France about how, you know, his forefather came from France and, you know, found opportunity in Canada, la-di-da, that's great.
00:18:56.460But the climate deal actually requires Canada to push carbon trading and push carbon climate policies worldwide.
00:19:05.940Now, our biggest trading partner is the United States of America, which does not have a climate policy, and which pulled out of the Paris Accord.
00:19:18.420And, you know, I think our trade with France is about, you know, 4 billion or something like that.
00:19:25.000It's in our video, I just don't remember off the top of my head.
00:19:27.920But our trade with the states is something like 937 billion.
00:19:36.440But then when you look at what France also has, they have this organization called La Francophonie.
00:19:42.420And if you recall, there was some controversy some time ago about why are we paying for Michael John to be part of La Francophonie and, you know, coughing up all these expenses for past governor generals because of La Francophonie.
00:19:58.980It's a huge voting bloc at the UN, and Canada is part of it because we have French-speaking people.
00:20:05.180So it appears, it presents itself as a cultural thing about French language.
00:20:09.380But effectively, it's actually controlling a large part of the conversation on climate.
00:20:17.180And who does France buy all their oil from?
00:20:20.920Despot nations, other than a bit from Norway, you know, but if you look at who they buy oil from, they're buying it from all the people that Canada Action has been critical of, for instance.
00:20:49.620Now, moving on to more global things, because that was pretty global.
00:20:54.780Let's talk about another, I suppose he started off as a Canadian bad idea, Mark Carney.
00:21:02.280He was formerly of the Bank of Canada, and he wants to change the world currency to fight climate change.
00:21:15.660And this is going to cause chaos in economic markets across the globe, but I suppose the ends justify the means for these people.
00:21:23.820Well, we did a video about Mark Carney being appointed as the climate czar at the UN.
00:21:30.940Mr. Carney was with Goldman Sachs, a big carbon trading company.
00:21:34.620He was with them for 13 years prior to becoming the governor of the Bank of Canada.
00:21:38.780And during his time in Canada, his wife was part of Canada 2020 and issued various reports pushing for a carbon price, pushing for carbon trading.
00:21:50.720Then he moved over to the Bank of England.
00:21:54.640And at the Bank of England, he made a presentation to Lloyd's of London, which is quite famous about climate change.
00:22:00.780And it's based on this very scary report that was put out and funded by Thomas Steyer and Michael Bloomberg, two green billionaires who've been demarketing fossil fuels worldwide.
00:22:15.560At the same time, we understand that Mr. Steyer's Farallon Capital in the background has been buying coal stocks in Asia while in the front he's very green.
00:22:26.320Anyway, that can be read on Powerline, on the Powerline blog.
00:22:33.140Anyway, so Mr. Carney has recently proposed that perhaps we should move to a digital currency instead of the U.S. dollar as the reserve currency of the world, because he's trying to stabilize European markets.
00:22:50.880But this would probably destabilize the world economy.
00:22:54.420And particularly today, now that we see the tragic chaos in China regarding coronavirus.
00:23:00.780You know, the Chinese have been buying up gold and U.S. dollars for a long time.
00:23:07.720So they're certainly not going to be part of this digital currency party.
00:23:11.460And I believe the underlying method here is to facilitate carbon trading and perhaps even an energy dollar, if you like.
00:23:21.620And this all goes back to the ideas of, say, George Monbiot, where everyone gets a personal carbon credit every year, a ration.
00:23:30.100You know, when you run out of energy credits, you just buy more if you have money.
00:23:35.340Anyway, so, you know, I think it's important that people are aware of this move.
00:23:40.220And one of the things that Mr. Carney has actually promoted is Facebook's proposed Libra digital currency.
00:23:47.000And that was the only one that he singled out in one of his speeches in Kansas last year.
00:23:54.880So, you know, then it makes sense to me now why perhaps Facebook has been limiting and censoring any articles that say there's no climate emergency.
00:24:07.120Or articles that say that Australian bushfires are not caused by climate change, but rather poor forestry management.
00:24:15.100Because if your currency, digital currency's future relies on climate catastrophe, of course, you're going to promote that.
00:24:23.480And, you know, in a free society, you should be able to promote it, but you should be pretty transparent about it.
00:24:30.000No, that was one thing I learned from one of your videos.
00:24:35.280Sometimes there's so much Facebook censorship happening, it's hard to stay on top of who exactly is the target today.
00:24:42.260But I did learn that from one of your videos, that wildfire facts about the Australian wildfire were being censored by Facebook and Facebook fact checkers.
00:24:53.700Because it doesn't comport with the narrative that this is climate change induced and not arson and poor forest management.
00:25:05.080Right. Well, there's a group in the States called Poynter Institute, and they're supposedly dedicated to journalism, inquiry and free speech and how important it is.
00:25:15.860And they run this organization called the International Fact Checking Network, which is made up of various people around the world who supposedly check on facts.
00:25:34.540But of course, what's happened is in the climate feedback world, you've got a whole bunch of people who are on the climate change catastrophe mantra.
00:25:42.500And so when anything doesn't fit that parameter, they come out with that.
00:25:48.160Now, Facebook has partnered with them in a Facebook integrity project.
00:25:53.500The words don't mean anything anymore.
00:25:56.180And, you know, most major media, including CBC, we've also got an item on CBC on our blog.
00:26:01.760If the International Fact Checking Network says this is BS, then that's it.
00:26:17.160And you and I were talking off camera about how some of these reports just make it into the ethos.
00:26:22.180And then so the insurance companies will adopt a report that says, oh, you know, the world's going to end in 12 years or whatever the doomsday clock is at right now.
00:26:34.680And then then the banking industry will point at the insurance industry and say, see, the world's going to end in 12 years because the insurance industry says so.
00:26:43.820And then the governments will point at the banks and say, OK, see, the world's going to end now because the banks and the insurance agencies both say that the world's going to end.
00:26:56.640And they both care about mitigating the risk.
00:27:21.720And he's got a couple of articles on Forbes recently that are very good.
00:27:26.280And again, he talks about how Thomas Dayer and Michael Bloomberg co-sponsored these this risky business report, which used a some climate simulations, one of them being the Registrated Concentrated Representative Concentrated Pathway 8.5.
00:27:46.280And this you can see this on the cover of the IPCC SR 1.5 report that Greta Thunberg is always quoting.
00:27:55.040There's an artistic representation of it.
00:27:57.480And you'll see that there is this one line that goes way up.
00:28:01.200And then there's one sort of in the middle.
00:29:09.160Yeah, so now you can understand some of the implications of that.
00:29:13.140People like Extinction Rebellion, the Voluntary Extinction, Humanity Extinction Project.
00:29:19.080You know, people who are running around with signs saying, kill me, I want to save the planet.
00:29:24.300You know, this insanity is coming from these model projections that have nothing to do with reality and should never, ever be used this way.
00:29:32.880So that's on the front cover of the IPCC report.
00:29:36.140It's integral to this report that Bloomberg and Steyer put together or funded.
00:29:41.720And that has become embedded in scholarly documents.
00:29:48.060So now it's just part of mainstream media thinking when it has actually no relation to reality.
00:29:56.720And this is the report that Mark Carney used when he talked with Lloyd's of London, you know, that this tragedy of the horizon, we're not going to be around long enough to see this big catastrophe.
00:30:07.580So we have to change everything completely now.
00:30:10.740It's a catastrophe that's from someone's imagination.
00:30:17.040So, as you say, all these people have lent each other credibility by repeating and citing this.
00:30:22.220And, you know, there's now one group in the world, CLINTEL, the climate intelligence group out of the Netherlands, who they've now put together 800 scientists, more than 800 scientists, who say there's no climate emergency.
00:30:38.760And let's stop, take a step back and stop scaring our kids.
00:32:39.180Because, you know, first of all, I want to say I think that Greta herself honestly and sincerely believes this.
00:32:45.200I think that she is completely terrified of the potential for catastrophe.
00:32:50.900And, you know, that's thanks to Al Gore because in 2009, in the book Factfulness, Hans Rosling says Al Gore told him in 2009 we have to create fear.
00:33:06.440You know, and Rosling was a global medical specialist working on medical policy worldwide and a medical doctor.
00:33:14.980And he said, you know, fear is like the worst thing that you can use because it will drive you into making dangerous and really bad decisions.
00:33:22.560And he gives lots of examples in his book.
00:33:24.940So, you know, Greta, speaking there herself, I think she totally, sincerely, honestly believes it.
00:33:34.800You know, Kian did that report when he went to Sweden to try and find out.
00:33:38.920Well, there's this huge group of green billionaires and this woman named Cori Morgenstarr has done a fabulous investigative research on the manufacturing of Greta Thunberg.
00:33:51.120Like this little girl is being used and exploited, child exploitation by these green billionaires.
00:33:56.720That's how she gets on the stage there because those guys are part of the Davos clique.
00:34:02.060So, you know, what can be a better way to get the public to move toward a digital currency, to agree to have their freedoms totally eclipsed by climate policy, to agree to have their economies destroyed by climate policy, than having this young woman speak from the heart with all sincerity to a bunch of billionaires who just flew in on their private jets.
00:34:25.240You know, so, and again, the clintel group has said it's a crime to make children afraid of their future.
00:34:35.540And if you read the factfulness book by Rosalind, you'll see that everywhere around the world, things are better for everyone, much better.
00:34:42.420There's still lots of inequality, but much, much better.
00:34:48.260And so that's not something that Greta even knows about.
00:34:51.340So it is really a tragedy that we're being bamboozled by these people who put together that report that now has inculcated all of Western society with fear of an apocalyptic ending, something that's not going to happen.
00:35:07.420Because that's not what the evidence shows.
00:35:30.640Maybe not now, but in 12 years, you're going to drop dead if your mother takes your cell phone away.
00:35:35.940Rogers would sell a hell of a lot of cell phones to some young people if they were able to convince young people that they were going to die if their mothers took their cell phone away.
00:35:46.760That's very similar to what Greta is experiencing right now.
00:35:52.620And I know it sounds crazy, my comparison, but it's pretty much the same if you're a grown-up looking at it with clear eyes.
00:36:00.900Sure, and if you look at their perspectives for the group, we don't have time, that's what they named their organization.
00:36:10.460You find that they have attached themselves, you know, they've got a big global agency, they're doing a huge social engineering project, and the main thrust is that they're selling carbon offsets.
00:36:21.080So they're using Greta as a walking ad to sell their carbon offset trading deals.
00:36:25.540You know, and ironically, in the prospectus, they say, and advertisers may have sort of, you know, future opportunities with social media influencers like Greta when she grows up.
00:36:39.340Well, you know, if we're all going to die in 12 years, what?
00:36:42.800I thought you guys said we're all going to die in 12 years.
00:36:45.740Now you're saying when she grows up, you can cash in on Greta.
00:36:48.600Like, that is so sick, and also, you know, what a perverted thinking to put out there to the public.
00:36:56.820So, yeah, we do have time, you know, and that's what the Clean Health Group is saying.
00:37:12.540Now, I've taken up quite a bit of your time this morning, but I wanted to talk about the new event that Friends of Science Society is planning.
00:37:24.080And let me just say off the hop, friends and listeners at home, viewers at home, if you've never gone to a Friends of Science Society event, I cannot recommend it enough.
00:37:37.420And you're going to hear ideas that you will not hear in the mainstream media, because they're unafraid, and the science speaks for itself.
00:37:47.100Well, this year, it's going to be on April the 6th.
00:37:49.440It's at the Red and White Club in Calgary.
00:37:51.560And we're going to have Donna LaFranboise speaking on freedom of speech.
00:37:56.260And we're going to have Dr. Roy Spencer speaking on 10 reasons why there's no climate emergency.
00:38:03.080So, it's called Freedom of Speech, No Climate Emergency.
00:38:06.360And Donna will be addressing the fact that climate change activists really want all your freedoms, and they're incrementally employing new and new laws, new legislation, you know, more bins to compost, more restrictions on where your car can park, more restrictions on whether or not you can fly, and such, like, on and on and on.
00:38:29.240They're gradually taking your freedoms away.
00:38:31.900And actually, she just did an article rebutting the Winnipeg free press.
00:38:38.980Which wrote an article saying, it's time to silence deniers.
00:38:42.700Now, of course, that may be influenced by the fact that in Winnipeg, they have the Prairie Climate Center, which instead of pushing climate information, is pushing wind and solar, ironically.
00:38:55.760And is funded by one of the, used to be funded by Great West Life, which was owned by Power Corp.
00:39:08.840And Dr. Roy Spencer, he was with NASA, and he's an award-winning scientist.
00:39:14.700He's now a principal researcher at University of Alabama Huntsville.
00:39:19.000And he and John Christie run all the satellite data from there, and they're the ones who show that there's really no change in global temperatures, according to the satellite data.
00:39:37.060Because, you know, you're bringing in people who actually are studying the data that the climate change activists are distorting to push their own agenda.
00:40:01.840And, you know, and Donna, I may have mentioned, she also wrote the book, The Delinquent Teenager.
00:40:07.100So, it's kind of funny that we have Greta at Davos, because The Delinquent Teenager is about how the IPCC acts like a delinquent teenager, where, you know, they won't clean up their room.
00:40:17.280So, they've been criticized on many, many issues over the years, and they haven't fixed it.
00:40:22.260And when Donna was here, she showed that Greenpeace and World Wild Fund leading members, legends, are influencing the IPCC reports.
00:40:34.160And who funds Greenpeace and World Wild Fund for a lot of money?
00:40:38.660The Oak Foundation, one of the tar sands partners, you know, the Rockefellers.
00:40:43.020All these big foundations have been funding Greenpeace and World Wild Fund, and these guys are influencing the IPCC reports that your local, provincial, and federal governments base their climate policies on.
00:40:57.600So, I don't, I see a huge conflict of interest there.
00:42:40.840You're reaching a lot of people because I think you have sort of a bit of a rebel journalistic mission in that we say we like to tell the other side of the story.
00:42:49.580That's exactly what you guys are doing.
00:42:51.000So, I recommend everybody subscribe to Friends of Science YouTube channel.
00:42:57.280If you're looking for a place where you can get layman's terminology of complex scientific issues that environmentalists are counting on you not to understand, go to the Friends of Science YouTube channel.
00:43:10.240You'll get a ton of arguments that you can take out, take into the world with you.
00:43:14.780So, yes, well, we do try to present a plain language version.
00:43:19.000We also back it up with the scientific material.
00:43:22.000And so, you know, we're not trying to bamboozle people.
00:43:25.120We want people to understand sort of these fundamental principles.
00:43:28.360And, yeah, we're very happy with, you know, our YouTube audience is very responsive.
00:43:35.320And we also try to respond when we can to comments on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.
00:43:40.160So, you know, we advocate for open civil debate on climate and energy policies.
00:43:48.800Because I think if we had open civil debate, a lot of the hysterical rhetoric would calm right down and people would be making more thoughtful, incremental changes rather than some of these vast, sweeping changes that people are coming up with that are really detrimental, especially to middle class and poor people.
00:44:51.580The ever-growing choir of scientific minds dissenting from the theory of human-induced global warming are being shut out of the debate, which means it's really not much of a debate anymore when only one side is allowed to talk.
00:45:04.820The same thing is happening to those nerdy number crunchers who disagree with the concept that making people poorer through taxes will somehow change the weather.
00:45:14.860That's crazy when you say it out loud, isn't it?
00:45:17.200You know, you'll scarcely see these people with articles published in mainstream media outlets, even though their opinions, frankly, are pretty mainstream.
00:45:25.200And you will absolutely never see them on a panel as a counterbalance at the CBC.
00:45:31.060In fact, we know at the CBC, its official policy did not have so-called deniers on at all.
00:45:37.720And that's why I love what Friends of Science is doing.
00:45:40.140They're going completely around the gatekeepers of legacy media and speaking directly to the people through their YouTube channel.
00:45:50.240Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
00:45:52.320I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:45:56.620Thanks, as always, for watching the show.
00:45:59.700And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.