Canada's policy towards China is worse than ever
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Justin Trudeau's China policy is worse than ever, and we're here to tell you why. Today, we're taking a break from our own battles to talk about the battles Canada is losing to the Chinese Communist Party. We'll start by reading a tweet written in Chinese by a Trudeau senator, and then we'll see some more examples from Parliament of Canada's dealings with China. And we'll also hear from Sheila Gunn-Reed, who was at the Grace Life Church on the weekend.
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Hello, my rebels. Today, I'm going to take a break from talking about our own battles
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to talk about the battles Canada has against the Chinese Communist Party, and my friends were
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losing. I'll kick it off by reading to you a tweet written in Chinese by a Trudeau senator
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taking China's point of view against Canada. It really is shocking. And I'll show a few more
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examples in the same vein. We'll also interview Sheila Gunn-Reed, who was out there at the Grace
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Life Church protesting weekend. I'd like to invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus
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Netflix. All right, here's today's show. Tonight, Canada's policy towards China is worse than ever.
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I'll give you some examples. It's April 13th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government, the why I publish it, is because it's my bloody
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Look at this tweet. It's written in the Chinese language, even though it's by a Canadian senator.
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His name is U.N. Powell Wu, and he was appointed by Justin Trudeau. You can see the translation
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Unless the British Columbia High Court decides to release Ms. Meng, the final settlement of the
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case will be political. Everything that happened before this was just a long tug-of-war. This
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interference also applies to the detention cases of Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig. If both
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parties do not recognize the legitimacy of each other's judicial system and do not allow both
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parties to find a solution under their own systems, it will not be possible to finally
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solve the problem. Do you understand what he's saying there? He's a Canadian senator, but he's
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saying Canada must respect the Chinese dictatorship's fake sham trial. And we must let Meng Wanzhou,
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the CFO Huawei, go. And we must interfere politically. We can't let our independent court be independent.
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That is, word for word, the party line of the Chinese Communist Party, but it's being
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elocuted by a Canadian senator. The fact that it's in the Chinese language is just the icing
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on the cake. You have a Trudeau senator arguing the Chinese dictatorship's case against our court
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system. And that's just fine. Look at this. This is also from Parliament. It's an order paper question.
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With regard to scientific research and experimental development support, including tax credits,
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provided to Huawei since 2016, what is the total amount of SNR and ED support provided annually
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to Huawei, broken down by year and by type of support? So that's a member of Parliament.
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They don't just have oral questions. They have written questions. An MP named John Nader is saying,
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how much money have we given Huawei, one of the world's largest high-tech companies,
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China's rival to Google, Huawei, a company that really stole its intellectual property from Nortel?
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Well, here's the Canadian government's answer from Diane LeBoutilier, the Minister of National Revenue.
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She says, Mr. Speaker, the CRA is unable to respond in the manner requested as confidentiality
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provisions of the Income Tax Act prevent the disclosure of taxpayer-specific information. In
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other words, the money that the Canadian government gives to Huawei is a Canadian secret from Canadians.
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Well, it just gets worse. Remember in December when I had the scoop of a lifetime,
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when the government of Canada accidentally gave me a 34-page top-secret document, but instead of
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blacking out the secret parts, they just shaded it a little bit. Every word was still readable. We
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called it the China Files, and it was an amazing roadmap to the battle within the Canadian government,
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the military that didn't want to do joint exercises and joint training with the Communist
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People's Liberation Army of China, versus Trudeau and the foreign ministry that still did.
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It was incredible. And I actually had a great interview with Aaron O'Toole of the Conservative
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Party. That sort of blew up when he was embarrassed that we published the interview. I don't really know
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what went on. But anyways, that was a very important scoop, I think the biggest of my life.
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And look at this. This is an exchange in Parliament now, on this same subject, not back in December,
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but now because Harjeet Sajjan, the defense minister, was before the committee.
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So it was an opportunity for opposition MPs to put questions about this to the defense minister.
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I want to show you the first one. This is by the conservative critic James Bazan.
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By the way, I invited James Bazan to come on my show three times to talk about it,
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but he hasn't been given permission to do so by Aaron O'Toole. It's too bad.
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Here, take a look at this question to Harjeet Sajjan.
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How many troops and what were their ranks that were from the PLA?
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Mr. Chair, for the exercise that Mr. Bazan is referring to in February 2018, there were five
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members of the PLA that were present as observers. They ranged in ranks from the lowest rank was a
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sergeant. The highest rank was a major general, Mr. Chair.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. We know from documents accidentally released by Global Affairs Canada
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that the decision by the CDS to cancel the winter training exercise with the Chinese troops only
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happened after our five I partners warned us there could be a dangerous sharing of military
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information and sensitive doctrine if it went ahead a second time in 2019.
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So, Minister, were you prepared to go ahead with this exercise up to that point because Global
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Affairs Canada and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs told you to?
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Or did you allow the military itself to actually make the decision to cancel it?
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No, Mr. Chair, as I stated in my earlier testimony,
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after the rebels were arrested, I gave direction that we were not to have any further involvement
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Well, that's pretty good. Even if James Bazan doesn't want to talk to Rebel News,
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I'm glad he's at least using our research to put a question to Harjeet Sajjan.
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I was also impressed that the Bloc Québécois asked a question in the same vein.
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Let me go back to the question that was put by Mr. Bazan at the outset.
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To better learn, what has led the Minister of Defense to accept a joint exercise with the
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And what are the reasons for which the Minister of Foreign Affairs, from what you have heard,
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Let me make it very clear, Mr. Chair, that it wasn't the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
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We never actually had any discussion about this.
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I mean, I can't talk about whatever internal discussions that might happen at the lower
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levels of global affairs, but one thing I can tell you when it came to defense,
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this exercise, I wasn't aware that it was actually taking place.
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It was based on the agreements that were done, as I stated, signed by the previous government,
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Obviously, after our two Michaels were arbitrarily detained, I gave direction that we were not
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to continue with any type of further relationship, and that's exactly what we have right now.
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Harjit Sejan is pretending that the decision to train Chinese troops on Canadian soil in the last
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couple of years was a decision made by Stephen Harper.
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It's a bit of a stretch, and it's a bit embarrassing, but I'd be embarrassed too if it happened under my watch.
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But it's important to know that there were 18 different joint projects between the Canadian Forces
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and the People's Liberation Army in that year done with China and Canada.
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So one of them was winter warfare training at an Ontario base, but there were also training of
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I simply don't believe that all of those have been canceled, because if you remember the China
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Files, and you can see them at thechinafiles.com, the government specifically ordered the military
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not to cancel any more joint projects with China's army without explicit permission from Trudeau First.
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I want to show you one more thing that goes to Harjit Sejan's shredded credibility.
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And it's namely that he was either covering up for or willfully blind to sexual misconduct at the
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highest level of military brass. Here's an article by Global News that shows that Harjit Sejan was
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blaming everyone but himself, claiming he simply didn't know that General Vance was accused of sexual
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misconduct, even though he gave him a raise, even though the ombudsman didn't have power to act
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alone, they had to have the minister take action. I won't get into the details of that sordid story,
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but it goes to the point that when Justin Trudeau and Harjit Sejan talk about being a feminist army
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and a feminist government, they don't really mean it if it affects their senior leadership,
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the liberal team. They get a free pass for sexual misconduct, as indeed Justin Trudeau himself has
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after sexually harassing Rose Knight back in Creston, BC. My point is not about sexual harassment. We know
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male feminists are that way. My point today is about China and whether it's Chinese-Canadian senators
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unfortunately taking China's side against Canada, or grants to Huawei that are a secret from Canadian
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taxpayers, or the defense minister making excuses for training Chinese troops, looks like Justin Trudeau
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has learned nothing in the last five years. Stay with us for more.
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Well, of course, a huge story, at least the dramatic story that we've been focused on for several days
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is the foiled police raid on the Rebel News houseboat Airbnb out in Montreal. 17 of us,
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the cops held us hostage, really, for 10 hours while they tried to get a search warrant to inspect our
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rooms and our belongings. So bizarre. But while we were involved in that drama in Montreal, thousands
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of kilometers away in Edmonton, our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed, was at the site of another and much
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more important drama, namely that of the Grace Life Church in Parkland County, just outside of Edmonton.
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It was the first Sunday service time since the government occupied and expropriated the church.
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Here's a clip from Sheila's report, which we just broadcast today.
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Because people are finally waking up and unifying. And right when we start to wake up, we do something
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like this. This will be looked at as if the U.S. Capitol building. If we rip this thing down,
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we'll be no better than them. And you know how far back that'll push our cause?
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All we've done for nine months will be gone. Because some yahoos decide to rip down a fence.
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I believe it's very important in this country that we have the freedom to worship. It's paramount.
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I came because there's enough tyranny. It's time to end this nonsense. This is just total overreach.
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To seize the land and the church. That's what happened with my grandfather when they seized
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his land. And they seized the right to go to church. And they turned all our priests into
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Sometimes when you listen to Pastor Pawlowski, you can think, wow, like, isn't he just a little bit
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too far calling those policemen, Nazis and Gestapo? Unfortunately, that's what we learned
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from history. And joining us now via Skype is our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed. Sheila, I watched your whole
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report and you certainly emphasized that actual people affiliated with the church, they didn't
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want to tear down the fence. The tearing down of the fence was by people who came there for a
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political protest. But the folks at the church, they sort of said, well, look, we could have torn down
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that fence if we wanted to. Explain the two different camps. And I think I might be a little
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bit more belligerent on this than you. But why don't you explain the two different points of view
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that were at that protest of nearly a thousand people on Sunday? Sure. And I don't even know where I sit
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on this. I might, depending on the day, be in the pull the fence down camp. But at the same time, it's
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also the church's facility and belongs to the congregation. So I guess, you know, you have to sort of
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follow their lead. But on Sunday, so it was the first Sunday, as you say, after the church itself
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had been seized, really, and then militarized by the province of Alberta. And so there was a protest
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staged at the same time as the congregation was meeting off-site. And I think this is a very interesting
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side story. So the majority of the congregation of Grace Life were meeting elsewhere, off-site.
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They've basically gone underground the same way the churches in China have gone underground. Because
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for them, it's not about the building. It's not about the bricks and mortar or the land. For them,
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all they want to do is gather together unrestricted by the government. That's what this has always been
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about. That's why Pastor James Coates went to jail and turned himself in. And that's why he remained
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in jail, is because he would not agree to bail conditions that required him to limit his congregation
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to 15% of capacity. So while the fight for religious freedom is, you know, symbolized by the fences put
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up by the province, for the church themselves, they are meeting elsewhere because all they want to do is
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gather. And as you rightly point out, they could have pulled those fences down at any time. The farmer
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next door is sympathetic to the church. He's got equipment. He can yank the fence down at any
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time. They never did. But people came to the church to protest. And there were a few different
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camps. There were some highly religious Christians that were there. People came in with a cross.
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People were singing. People were praying. People were praying for the police. They were praying for
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the government for a peaceful resolution to all of this. There were some people who were angry with
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the government and angry with the police. And then there were others who felt like they had to do
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something. And I understand how people get there. I do. But that what that has never been the church's
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viewpoint. Those people who were angry and felt like they had to do something walked up at one point
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and pulled the fence down. And as quickly as it happened, people who were sympathetic to the church,
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and I know there was one lady who was actually a congregant at the church, started leading a chant
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to leave the fence alone. And the fence went back up as quickly as it came down. And again, as I say,
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for the congregation, it's not about the building at all. The state can seize the building. The state seized
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their pastor. Another one was in his place. That's not what this is about for them. It's not about the
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fence coming down. Well, you know, what was so bizarre to me was that the government's response,
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and it was their planned response, because you've been covering it from the beginning,
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was to have scores of heavily armed SWAT style police there. And when the fence came down,
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they deployed dozens, maybe, I don't know, I've seen reports as varying from 50 to 200. And what are
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you going to do if you've got moms and kids pushing a fence down? I mean, and all you have
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are police with guns. Are you seriously going to shoot someone because a kid or a mom pushed a fence
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down? Like, like it implied, you touch this and we will be deadly violent to you. What an absolute
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disgrace. I wonder what they would have done. I think they would have loved to have put a bullet
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into someone. When you mustered dozens of police and build an armed garrison, which is what they've
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done to this church, presumably you want to use the weapons. When generals buy new weapons, it's like
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a kid with toys. You want to play with them. When you turn a church into a government fortress,
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there's an implication that you want to use that for it. I thought it was super gross.
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But I want to get back to something you said. I think you used the word underground churches.
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I first heard the phrase house church in regards to China. Christians who could not have an actual
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church they would meet in their house because they would hope it would be undetected by the Chinese
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secret police. There were some underground churches, secret churches. That is a very China
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thing. Yeah. That's a very Arabia thing. The fact that you have a secret underground church
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in Canada that is being held in secret to evade the secret police is something that I don't think
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most Canadians know is happening because the media party certainly isn't saying it.
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We are at the stage where Christians are running away and hiding to practice their religion
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because of all people, Jason Kenney, in all places, Alberta, is hunting them.
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Yeah. I mean, and Jason Kenney fancies himself to be a Christian. I think he's Roman Catholic,
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just like me. But this is the sort of thing that, as you point out, happens in, you know,
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parts of the Middle East in China. But it also was very much a part of the early Christian church
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that Christians scattered off to house churches and worshipped in secret and worshipped in caves.
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And what's happening here is actually the same thing that happened with the early church.
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When you force Christians to scatter and hide, what it does is it perpetuates the church
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and it spreads the church. And because of what's happening to Grace Life, their congregation has
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never been more committed and has never been bigger and has never been more vigorous in their faith.
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I could go to the Grace Life congregation next week. I've heard through the grapevine that I'm invited
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to their secret location. But at the same time, it's their church. The fact that they have to run away
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and hide, that's a story in and of itself. But at the same time, it's their church. The fact that they
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have to hide away to just hold services unconstrained by the state is an absolute catastrophe. It flies in
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the face of everything that Jason Kenney ever presented himself to be. And again, this story
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will be at the church site because people are continuing to gather because they're outraged and
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other people can't even believe what they're seeing because it's so abnormal for anything that
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has ever occurred in the Western world in recent memory.
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Yeah. You know, I read some pundit in the UK, I can't remember who, say the reason why these liberal
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democracies are succumbing to totalitarianism and police states so easily is because so many people
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just can't believe what they they're seeing. I think there's some truth to that. But I think that's
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another way of saying we were never really as brave as we claim to be. We never really believed as much
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as we claimed we did. And, and aren't we so easily given excuses to accept and compromise and
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tolerate the intolerable. I find it interesting, I've observed both on video and personally attending
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a great number of these gatherings across the country, including in Montreal on the weekend.
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And I note the number of new immigrants to Canada who came from formerly totalitarian regimes. And
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there's this one clip in your video of a woman who I think came from Poland. And she talks about how
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the priests were criminalized by the communist state. Here, take a quick look at that.
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It's, it's, it's more than just the church. It's, it's about our freedom of rights. It's about being
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free to, to be who we are. And then what happened with the church, it's above the law, in my opinion,
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because I came from a communist country and to seize the land and the church. That's what happened with
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my grandfather when they seize his land and they seize the right to go to church. And they turn all our
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priests into traders, you know, for the government. And this is more about, it's more than COVID. It's more
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about the mask. It's about the rights to seize the land, which doesn't belong to the government. It's a
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private land. What's next? Are they going to come and take my car and my business and my house? That is
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the question we have. I am here today for the freedom. I came 37 years ago to Canada for freedom.
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And here I am fighting again for freedom. I think that you have to have seen it once or maybe lived
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at once to be that brave, to ready to fight back. Now, obviously most of the people who were rallying
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at the church location were not from Poland. We're not from the former Soviet bloc. We're not from
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other communist regimes. But I think if you ever came from a place like that, you don't need a warm
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up. You don't need to be told 10 times. You've seen this before. You know how it ends. And you
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know what happens if people go along to get along. I just, I can't believe it's happening quickly in
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democracy. My reaction is to fight harder. I think other people, their reaction is just to cover their
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eyes. Yeah. There were actually two ladies that I spoke to that were down at the protest site. And I
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just spoke to them randomly. I didn't have a clue who they were. One lady was Romanian. And she said,
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what is happening to the church with the property being seized is exactly what happened to, I think
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it was her uncle in Romania, because he wouldn't go along to get along with the government at the
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time. And then the lady who was from Poland, she was a member of the Polish solidarity movement. And I
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thought she had some very important things to say, because as you know, much of the Polish
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solidarity movement was fostered and fomented by the Catholic church and by St. Pope John Paul too.
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And she said, back then the church with the church and the priests, they were the leaders
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of the movement toward freedom. And now she called the priests and the pastors who are going along with
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the government right now, collaborators in what's happening to the Christians and our religious
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freedom. You're so right. I mean, Pope John Paul II, who's now being sainted, he was born with the name
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Karol Wojtyla. He was the first Polish Pope. And what a lucky coincidence that was, because when he went
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to Poland, the government couldn't very well say, no, the first Polish Pope can't come to Poland,
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it was a very difficult thing for the Soviets and the communists and their, you know, colonial
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dictator in Poland to handle. And when Pope John Paul II went to Poland and had a mass with over a million
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people there, he was very careful with what he said. And he said, be not afraid. And they just
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stopped being afraid. And you're exactly right. The church, the Pope, Margaret Thatcher and Ronald
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Reagan, it took all three of them to bring down the Soviet bloc. But I guess let me close by asking
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you a question. Put aside the Pope, where are the bishops, the pastors, the rabbis, the imams, where is
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any religious leader in Canada standing in solidarity with the Grace Lab Church? Like, is there even one?
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There are nobody from, I would suggest from the mainline Catholic Church that has spoken up.
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Against what's happening at Grace Life. And that's a great shame of my own. I was at church last
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night, in fact. And I'm watching our faith leaders oversee the immediate death of the church. Because
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the only people who are in attendance at church these days, with the limited capacity, are the people
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too elderly to use Zoom or YouTube. Nobody else is there. It's instantly aging and killing
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the church. And on the flip side, we've seen people from the United Church and other
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evangelical leaders, even, speaking out against Pastor James, saying, why can't he just go along
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with the government? It's not the Christian thing to do, to be disobedient to the government.
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Yeah. Unbelievable. And I also would add the media in there, too. Most of the media that care about
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this are outside Canada. Most of the media inside Canada are cheering on the police. It's shocking.
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Sheila, thanks for covering that story. I know you will continue to do so. Frankly, you're the only
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journalist they trust. And it's easy to see why. Thanks very much. And let me invite viewers to watch
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the entire report that Sheila did. You can find that elsewhere on our channel. Thanks, my friend.
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All right. There you have it. Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter. Stay with us more.
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Hey, welcome back. On my show last night, Gene writes,
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You guys are my new heroes. Long live Rebel News. Thanks, Gene. I hope we do live long. It's always
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dangerous when you holler at an armed police force with the corruption issues that Montreal's police
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have. That's a dangerous police force. I wouldn't want to be governed by them because I think they
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really are lawless. Ryan writes, Ezra, your team is gutsy. You're one of the only Canadian news outlets
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who are exposing the truth. Well, that's why the police hate us. That's why the other media hate us.
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We are dissenters in this whole pandemic society. We're the only ones willing to call it out.
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Not the only ones, but certainly the media party is in CTV, CBC, Global, Global Mail, Toronto Star,
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all the big media. They're all on one side. I think that's why the establishment hates us. They've
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always disliked us. But on this pandemic, we simply are dissenting. And they hate that.
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Barb writes, You know you're doing something incredibly important when it comes up with such
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resistance. I feel so proud of the whole team. Way to go. Well, thank you very
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much. And we still don't know the damage done to us because we understand they're going to send
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massive fines in the mail. They didn't tell us that. They told La Presse, a left-leaning newspaper
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in Montreal. We also have to defend David. So the battle's not done, but I'm glad everyone is
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physically safe. If you want to see more about that, we're uploading new videos that we were
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working on all weekend. You can see those at lockdownreports.com. Well, that's our show for
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today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,