In December of 2013, a new virus was discovered in Wuhan, China. It was a new SARS-like virus, but it looked a lot like a coronavirus, a virus that causes people to get sick and then die. The problem was that it was a pandemic, and China was covering it up.
00:17:23.360Patty Hydu doesn't know how to do anything.
00:17:25.140If anything, Trudeau will find a way to enrich his friends with grants and subsidies, as he usually does.
00:17:33.360I guess the best summary of the whole thing is what that young man in Hong Kong told our reporter who was working with us on a freelance basis last year, Avi Yamini.
00:17:44.980Remember we sent Avi over to Hong Kong during the democracy protests?
00:18:41.760Well, that is President Donald Trump answering a question from the White House press corps about why he uses the phrase China virus.
00:18:50.540No one's asking him why he says Spanish flu or German measles or Ebola or Zika, which are also named after geographical locations.
00:19:01.820It's a line propagated by the Chinese Communist Party, which is trying to shift the blame for this virus, which first was discovered in the Chinese city of Wuhan, onto America.
00:19:14.620In fact, very senior Chinese diplomats have actually circulated conspiracy theories that the virus is a creation of the United States.
00:19:25.320Well, this and other curiosities came to the attention of one of our favorite legal observers and analysts, our friend Manny Montanagrino.
00:19:35.500And he joins us now via Skype from Ottawa.
00:25:41.480These wet markets should be shut down.
00:25:44.220There's been a movement for 10 years to shut down because wet markets cause these.
00:25:49.400So not, and what China did, it expanded the wet markets because it's easy, it feeds a lot of people, and it's hard.
00:25:58.800And of course, there are people that want it and lobby it and say that it helps them and whatever reasons.
00:26:05.120But so we have a 30-year history of an intentional, what I'll call malfeasance by the government taking a Russian roulette.
00:26:17.320Basically, you know, you have one chamber, one gun in the chamber, you roll around, does the coronavirus, a new one, be created in these wet markets that will eventually kill millions?
00:26:32.120And so this happens and happens and happens and happens and it continues.
00:26:37.820So this is, you know, we were outraged when Iran shot down a plane that were civilian.
00:26:45.220There was no intent to shoot down civilians.
00:26:48.560But we were outraged and we want compensation.
00:26:51.380We want that government of Iran to act like a first nation and take responsibility and pay for the losses of the people.
00:27:01.400Well, in China, it's worse, in my opinion.
00:27:03.860I mean, legally, let me put it to you, Ezra.
00:27:07.200Let's assume that America had wet markets or whatever you want to call them that created these pandemics.
00:27:13.540And the president, Trump, hid and removed doctors and hid it and the media hid it.
00:27:21.680And all of a sudden you created a worldwide $5 trillion of damage, collapses to people's families, destruction.
00:27:29.860And you don't think that America will be held libel.
00:27:32.840You don't think Trump will be held libel.
00:27:34.460Trump is trying to stop this and people are upset that he's using language to defend a what I'll call a country that's using terrible manipulative tools to avoid responsibility.
00:27:51.320And Trump is not only on the front line of trying to save his economy, trying to save his people, trying to save the virus from spreading, but he's also trying to prevent China from doing this again by obfuscating its responsibility and taking its own actions to stop this from future pandemics.
00:28:12.960But, Manny, you raised some great points.
00:28:15.420If it came from these wet markets, that was a risk that they allowed.
00:28:19.220And I think you're right, in a North American legal setting, that would be litigated out of existence.
00:28:25.320There are some who wonder, and I'm one of them, if it's merely a coincidence that China's most secure and secretive biological research site for weapons is in Wuhan.
00:28:40.960So, I'm not going to indulge in conspiracy theories, but it is possible that the virus came from there.
00:28:48.260Both of those, I think you could call them negligent or accident, but what we know China did wittingly, thoughtfully, purposefully, strategically, was cover it up.
00:29:00.060Like you say, arrest the doctors for rumor mongering, delay information getting out to the world, blocking American centers for disease control staff who wanted to go to Wuhan.
00:29:12.360So, even if it was accidental or merely negligent at first, when China knew the truth, it covered it up, it arrested the whistleblowers, and it did not stop its infected people from traveling around the world, including to America and Canada.
00:30:51.900China is a nation that when we declared a global warming crisis, in the last 30 years we've heard it, and certainly the last 10 years it ramped up.
00:31:01.360Canada, U.S., and the EU reduced its CO2 consumption, production, and China increased it by 200% to 300% in that same year.
00:31:11.140This is a nation that doesn't listen to the world.
00:31:29.820What concerns me, because right now I'm talking to you through Skype, we are still communicating, we are still connected.
00:31:40.020My wife is having a Zoom lunch with her girlfriends as we speak.
00:31:44.060She's upstairs having a Zoom lunch, because we can do it through it.
00:31:48.680But my fear is this nation that is not at all responsible to anyone in the world that's trying to avoid its responsibility for what it's done is now building a 5G platform in Canada.
00:32:04.880Or still, it might build it in Canada, and it's still around the world.
00:32:08.720So if we lose our technology, just think, just think how bad our world would be today if our technology is under assault.
00:32:20.360I mean, I hope that I'm not alive when that happens.
00:32:25.740But I am fearful that if we accede to a nation, I mean, just think about this, Ezra.
00:32:32.100How could we even consider a country who's not taking responsibility for what's happened with this coronavirus, who's trying to lie and say it's the Americans' fault, who is not doing anything?
00:33:10.140But they haven't stepped up with our, you know, we declared the world in a climate emergency and China keeps increasing its CO2 production.
00:33:23.180We destroy Alberta and China continues to increase its production of CO2.
00:33:30.260Now, so how do we sit there and think that this nation is going to come to the table and discuss and be, as you say, responsible to the world on a class action?
00:33:41.900Well, I mean, I know there's tricky laws about suing countries.
00:33:47.480There's something called sovereign immunity.
00:33:49.400You can't really settle political, international squabbles in a court of any one country.
00:33:56.400But there have been some lawsuits that have been accepted in the past.
00:34:01.800And I hope that American lawyers, who are amongst the most voracious lawyers in the world, I hope that some really smart lawyers, really motivated, put a lawsuit out there.
00:34:14.320Because the thing about Chernobyl is it was devastating and it was a cover up and it was lies, but it really only affected people in the Soviet empire, including, unfortunately, Ukraine, which was part of the Soviet empire by force back then.
00:34:29.560But it didn't really impact the rest of the world.
00:34:33.460This is like a Chernobyl that affected the entire world.
00:34:38.180And the same cover up and lies and culpability as Chernobyl, except for it's all of us, not just one geographic region.
00:37:39.200When the Harper government repealed the censorship provision, there was no public opposition to that repeal at all.
00:37:46.420You could shut down every Human Rights Commission in Canada, and the only people who would notice or care are the bureaucrats and lawyers who would have to get a real job.
00:37:56.660On my coverage of Tommy Robinson's latest appearance in court, Zuzanna writes, Boris Johnson needs to clean up the British judicial system, ASAP.
00:38:02.820Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen, it's not just the judicial system, it's everything.
00:38:08.800It's what Daniel Pipes called the 5P professionals, the press, the prosecutors, the police, the professors, and the politicians themselves.
00:38:18.200It's the whole establishment that is not only covering up the British rape gangs, but prosecuting Tommy too and depersoning him.
00:38:29.000Bruce writes, until we normal folks rise up on ass and tell the lunatic left where to stick their socialist crap, we'll all end up in gulags.
00:38:37.080Well, you know, that's the thing, I'm not quite sure what Justin Trudeau has planned next.
00:38:42.680His father, as you know, invoked martial law, the War Measures Act, but that was in response to terrorist bombs and kidnappings, an actual violent paramilitary force called the FLQ.
00:38:53.840But don't think that Trudeau would have any compunction about reining in our civil liberties, just if he could, not even if it would fix the problem.
00:39:03.340Keeping out foreign flights is not a violation of anyone's civil rights.
00:39:06.580Foreigners don't have the civil right to come to our country.
00:39:09.600So Trudeau won't actually solve the problem, but he'll use the crisis as a fig leaf for justification to do what he really wants to do and grab more power.