“Cancel culture karma”： Harvard grad threatens to stab people — and she’s shocked when she loses her job
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A Harvard grad threatens to stab anyone who disagrees with her, and she s shocked when she loses her job. What do you think of cancel culture karma? Subscribe to Rebel News Plus to get immediate access to all our new shows and listen to them wherever you get your news.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I talk about young Clara Janover, a Harvard grad who went on TikTok to say she wanted to stab people who said the phrase,
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all lives matter instead of black lives matter. Oddly enough, she was fired by the company that said they'd hire her later this year.
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What do you think of that? I'll give you my thoughts on cancel culture karma.
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In this case, I really wish you could see Clara Janover. She is the luckiest gal in the world.
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I mean, young, pretty, healthy, on her way, woman, Harvard grad. The world is hers.
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And she throws it away for a TikTok. I want to show you that TikTok.
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But I also think she's having the time of her life. That's today's show.
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Tonight, a Harvard grad threatens to stab anyone who disagrees with her.
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It's July 2nd, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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Here's a lovely young lady named Clara Janover.
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The luckiest, richest, most privileged 1% of society.
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She's young, she's healthy, she's pretty, and a Harvard grad.
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Being a Harvard grad isn't just a ticket for life, for financial success.
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The United States doesn't have an aristocracy the same way the UK does,
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but you get a Harvard degree and you're as close to royalty as they come in America.
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I would normally not point out this fact, but it's relevant to today's discussion.
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She's obviously not white, and I don't think she's black.
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So on the first point, not being white has obviously not held her back in the land of opportunity.
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I wonder if she got into Harvard as part of their affirmative action program for visible minorities,
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basically taking a slot that was traditionally meant for black people.
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We'll never actually know because Harvard is very cryptic about who it lets in and for what reason.
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Many Ivy League schools actually discriminate against Chinese Americans.
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So a sheer meritocracy would see a disproportionate of Chinese kids in these schools,
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just like at Canada's University of British Columbia, where Asian kids are actually a majority.
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Clara Janover has a lot of privilege, regardless of her race or how it helped or hurt her to get into Harvard.
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So this 0.01 percenter who just graduated from Harvard this spring was hired by Deloitte,
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She took to TikTok, the social media app, to post a rant about Black Lives Matter.
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Clara is sick of people saying all lives matter, you see.
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You could say she gets furious about it, even a bit stabby.
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The next person who has the sheer nerve, the sheer entitled caucasity to say all lives matter,
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And while you're struggling and bleeding out, I'm going to show you my paper cut and say,
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Now, Clara says that was metaphorical, as in, I think the point she was trying to make was that
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anyone else who says their lives matter, well, sure they do, but it's not as urgent or critical
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Now, I've seen that argument before, that black lives matter must be said because black
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There's some truth to that, and there's some logical flaws in that too.
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My real beef with black lives matter is that it's not just three words.
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It's a corporation, really a lobby group, that has very specific goals and agendas.
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It's like they've trademarked those three words, black lives matter.
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It sounds like plain English, but when you say them, it's taken as an endorsement of the
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whole political agenda of that organization, defunding police and increasingly anti-Semitism.
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It's pretty hardcore, and it's got nothing to do with black people.
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And then there's this, in case you're in any doubt.
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So yeah, I think people do believe that black lives matter, but they want to say that all
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lives matter because most people believe that all lives matter, and they don't want to be
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tricked or co-opted into a whole movement that is questionable, and they don't want to be
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By the way, I think black lives matter very much.
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If you're a student of history, you know that there is indeed some systemic racism against
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One of her most passionate projects was specifically aborting black babies.
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She insisted on setting up abortion clinics in black neighborhoods, in promoting abortion
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You can see that too in global programs for population control today.
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So I'm actually happy to talk about that all day, instead of defunding police, which actually,
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if you were to defund police, that would disproportionately hurt, you guessed it, black communities in low-income
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Anyways, so this Harvard grad talked about stabbing people.
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And so Deloitte, when her video went viral, Deloitte let her know that she was not actually
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I'm guessing people who work there would be worried about, you know, being stabbed or
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So here's what she said when she got that bad news.
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I know this is what Trump supporters wanted, because standing up for Black Lives Matter put
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me in a place online to be seen by millions of people.
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The job that I had worked really hard to get and meant a lot to me, just called me and fired
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Um, I don't know if everyone's seen, but it's been circulating a lot.
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Um, my Black Lives Matter TikToks were picked up by conservatives and spread and shared, and
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people were demanding that I be fired, which I just got.
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Even though they claim to stand against systematic bias, racism, and unequal treatment, so do
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the thousands of Trump supporters sending me hate messages, death threats, and violent
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I'm still not going to stop talking about and defending Black Lives Matter.
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You can't take away my spirit and my devotion towards human rights.
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Yeah, what's wrong with those racist Deloitte people?
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Who wouldn't want an extremely emotional young woman talking about stabbing people?
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Now, Janover herself, I don't think she's Black, but Deloitte must be anti-Black for not hiring
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I think Andy Warhol was the one who said everyone will be famous for 15 minutes.
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In the age of TikTok videos, it's more like 15 seconds, but Clara got her moment, and she
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Trump supporters just took my job away from me.
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I've gotten death threats, rape threats, violent threats.
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My future is entirely compromised because Trump supporters have decided to come for my
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It sucks, but it doesn't suck as much as systemic racism, and I'm not going to stop using my platform
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to advocate for it, and I'm sorry, Deloitte, that you can't see that.
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That you are cowardice enough to fight somebody who's going to make an indelible change in
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Yeah, those mean conservatives who are spreading her video around.
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She's the one who gets to spread her video around.
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Well, I'm sorry if that actually did happen in any real or serious way.
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It's odd, though, coming from someone who just threatened to stab people and watch them
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But still, now, don't worry for this young lass.
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I think she'll probably be hired by Black Lives Matter.
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Maybe she'll even claim that she is black, like Rachel Dolezal and Sean King do.
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A couple of white kids pretending to be black activists for the street cred.
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I have to tell you, Clara Janover may be a Harvard grad, and she may have secured a position
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But I think she actually wants to be internet famous.
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I think right now she's actually having the best moment of her life.
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Like a teenage girl trying to get attention to some boy.
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Except she's a Harvard woman in her 20s, and she demands to be taken seriously.
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You know, that all looks bad on her, but it looks pretty bad on Harvard, too, if this
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There are a number of Clara Janover crowdfunding pages out there already.
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And I'm not exactly sure what the money is for, other than for her being famous.
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You know, I've fought against cancel culture for years.
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We've been the target of cancel culture over here.
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Here's a young woman with everything going for her, and she threatened to stab people who
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And I'd say it's a bit tough to muster any support for her.
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Would you actually want to work in a cubicle next to this stabby young lady?
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The thing is, I bet this is the first time in her life that anyone has ever said no to her.
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But she believes, I guess, in stabbing people who are disagreeable.
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The first time she was ever said no to, and she is shocked, or at least shocked for the
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And look at the mess she's in, all lovingly recorded for the cameras.
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Yeah, come to think of it, Clara Janover is exactly.
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What an Ivy League university education is in 2020.
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Hey, parents, save your three, four hundred grand and send your kids to community college
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Well, Justin Trudeau and ethics and secret deals are back in the news again.
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I don't know if you've been following it, but nearly a billion dollars in a private soul-sourced
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no competition deal have been agreed to by Trudeau to his favorite PR group called We Day.
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It's basically huge liberal-style rallies in stadiums where Trudeau or his wife or other
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liberal celebrities are introduced to young high school kids.
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It's basically conditioning them to support liberals.
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Trouble is, Trudeau has sent them close to a billion dollars to manage a volunteer program.
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There's so many iffy and sketchy things here, including the fact that We Day just happens
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to have paid for Sophie Trudeau and the kids and the mother-in-law to have an all-expense-paid
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It reminds me, and we should remember, that Trudeau is a serial convict under the Conflict
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of Interest Act as ruled by a quasi-judge, the Federal Ethics and Conflict of Interest Commissioner.
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You know, we have a number of fan-favorite guests.
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And you'll immediately know who I'm talking about when I start to describe him.
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He's a very senior hand who likes to take the wide view.
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And when you take the wide view, you see not just the politics, but also the economics,
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And it helps to have that wide view sometimes, especially after we go so deep on some particular
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And it won't surprise you that our guest today is a former managing partner of a national
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law firm, former lawyer to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and he's now the boss of ThinkSharp.
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I'm talking about our friend, Manny Montenegrino, who joins us now via Skype from Ottawa.
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And you've compiled another one of your master's theses on politics and Trudeau.
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And we're going to sit back and learn and listen.
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What I'd like to talk about today, and thank you for the opportunity, is the two Michaels,
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Michael Sporver and Michael Corbett, who are now, I think, 560 days in a Chinese lockup.
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And there's been a lot of media with respect to that and how do we deal with it and our independence
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And you know that I have been, at least on your show, every opportunity I get is to talk
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about the two Michaels and how they've been ignored.
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And recently, you've seen that there's a lot of media about the government having the ability
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to, under the Extradition Act, we've got a brilliant decision by Brian Greenspan that
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the Justice Minister can intervene, and Trudeau's holding out that he will not intervene because
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So it's a tough issue, and, you know, clearly the human part of me wants these two Michaels
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The legal aspect of it, clearly we should not monkey around with our independence of the
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That's what keeps Canada by far one of the greatest countries in the world.
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And I've gone through the last little while and last three years of how do we make a decision
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I mean, Ezra, first of all, I'm no fan of the communist China.
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They have been doing as much illegality around the world as they can, when and if they can.
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And we're seeing what's happening in Hong Kong.
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Six million people have lost their rights, their human rights, and 300,000 of them are
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Canadians, and the world is pretty silent about it.
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How do I square the fact that these two young, these two Michaels, these two Canadians should
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be back in Canada and observe the rule of law that is so important to Canada, and there
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should never be any interference by political interference?
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Well, you know, in this case here, you look at the totality of it, and it's quite simple.
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There has to be an admission by the prime minister that his conduct must compel these
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two young men back home and must, in this specific fact situation, must have the minister
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Brian Greenspan made a wonderful argument that in law, there is the legal ability for the minister
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And the compelling reason why, in this case, points directly to the prime minister.
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He has conducted himself in such a way, many times, and you referred to it in your open
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mind log, his breaches of ethics, his breaches of obstruction of law, that gives the right
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And you might recall, Ezra, September, it goes back to September 2018, five months, 10, 11 people
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at the PMO obstructing and putting pressure on the attorney general to, on criminal matters
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That led to his best friend, his parliamentary secretary resigning, buts, the clerk of the
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Privy Council resigning, the firing of the attorney general and all that.
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And what offends me the most is that there is no discussion in the media that a huge precedent
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was created by this particular prime minister that can't no longer hide behind, we cannot
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interfere with legal matters before the courts.
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And so, for those reasons, I think, and China watched it, China watched the unraveling of
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our justice system with the firing of the attorney general, the quitting of the MP, and all that
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happened underneath, and as well, as you put it, you know, the ethics commissioner, Mario
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Dion, does a very detailed review and finds that there's a second conflict of interest in
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an obstruction of justice, the prime minister personally trying to help a criminal matter.
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In my understanding, you're right, you're saying, and I want to make sure I get this,
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you are saying, are you, that Canada should do what Brian Greenspan and the 19 senior ex-judges
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and lawyers and professors and diplomats are saying?
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Are you advocating that Trudeau have the justice minister set Meng Wanzhou, the Chinese CFO and
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executive, free in return for the two Michaels?
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Okay, I am, I'm getting to the same conclusion.
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But they are not brave enough or honest enough to get to the conclusion on how I got to the
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So, so, so they're coming, you know, it offends me to see that a bulk of our ex-liberal cabinet
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ministers and even the ex-prime minister is now on retainer with China.
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It bothers me that there's, China gave $200,000 to the Trudeau Foundation.
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It bothers me that China is so infiltrated within our government that it uses its funds and ability
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I am coming to the same conclusion as they are, but I'm coming to it honestly.
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I'm coming to it with great difficulty, but with using the law and the facts of this particular
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There's no instance, almost never should the government be involved in the, involving itself
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But in this rare and exceptional case where you have the prime minister of Canada found
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guilty by the ethics commissioner of, of conflict of interest in the guise of an obstruction
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When you have the prime minister taking money or his family trust or his family fund taking
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When these facts are there and the Chinese communist government is watching and the Chinese government
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is watching and saying, we see what you have done.
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And my point is, if I were arguing for the Michaels, I wouldn't be arguing that.
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I mean, the law is there, but where is the opportunity, where are the facts to find itself
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And the opportunity, in fact, is that the prime minister of Canada personally, personally
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was found to be in conflict of interest with the SNC-Lavalin, removed the attorney general.
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And there's a, you know, we see what's happening with the commissioner today.
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We know now why, but there is enough legal jurisprudence by the decision, as you put
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it, by the commissioner, Mario Dion, where he finds an obstruction.
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So when I look at, should the law be applied, should the exemption be applied under the
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So I would be always saying never, never get yourself involved.
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But in this particular case, because of the facts, where the prime minister personally
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obstructed justice, where the prime minister was found to be in conflict of interest for
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obstruction of justice, where the prime minister acted so recklessly that the clerk of the Privy
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Council had to resign, where the principal secretary had to resign, where the attorney general
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was removed from her post, where another, the minister of, at that time, the minister of
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health quit and resigned, Jane Philippot, because of the obstruction.
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When all these facts are there and the world knows it, and China knows it, China is saying,
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hey, we took these kids because we thought you'd understand.
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So for their case, I would argue the facts that are so egregious and offensive and should
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be offensive to every Canadian that believes in rule of law, the facts in this case here
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Manny, I agree with you in one way, which is that China senses Trudeau is weak and corrupt,
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So I accept your thesis that Trudeau's history of corruption, his history of interfering with
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the justice system, may have given China courage to do this kidnapping.
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But the second part, Manny, I don't think I've ever disagreed with you in the two decades we've
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But I have to disagree with you here in such a friendly and respectful way.
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Because just because China thought our whole system was corrupt, because Trudeau tried
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to corrupt it once, doesn't mean we should make that true and make it correct.
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I'll be brief, and I want to hear from you because I want to give you a chance to respond
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One is, I think it is morally inappropriate to interfere with our justice system.
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Other politicians will do it at other levels of the government.
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We'll change the public civic duty in this country if we be so brazen about it.
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I'm worried it'll ruin our reputation for rule of law morally.
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And number two, we'll send a message to every would-be kidnapper thug around the world that
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all you have to do is kidnap someone and we'll break our own laws for it.
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So it's not just the moral reasons we don't want to corrupt our system.
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It's, you know, as Rudyard Kipling said, once you pay the Dane geld, you'll never get
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rid of the Dane talking about paying ransom to Vikings, well, they'll keep coming back.
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So what do you, so I hear what you're saying as a strictly as a thought exercise, but in
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real life to actually say, hey, release the prisoner, even though a court just ruled she
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should stand trial, is not only damaging to the rule of law, but it sends a signal to
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What do you make of those two objections, Manny?
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Those are, I agree, Ezra, 100% of what you said.
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I'm talking about the specific facts of this case here.
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The specific facts, we've never had a prime minister, ever, and we will never have a prime
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minister, ever, found in conflict of interest, obstruction of justice.
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And he continues to do it, as you, you know, with his conflicts, he's now, I think, 13 charges
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were found on this section, on two different, very lengthy legal opinions by the ethics, or
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But where you have that, and Ezra, here's where I, Ezra, I struggled as much as you did with
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But in this case here, I liken it to the fact where you have a bad cop, or a bad, yeah,
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investigator that comes in and breaks one's charter rights.
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And the charter rights, and let's say they go in without a warrant, and they find guns,
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But they break the charter rights of that individual.
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So what's more important to me is where you have here, in this case here, and if there's
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such a concept, the prime minister of Canada breaching the charter rights of these two individuals
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by acting so negligently and forcefully creating obstruction of justice to allow rogue regimes
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like China to act upon it, there's where the exemption falls.
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I mean, it's the facts in this case that drive me to that conclusion.
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Forever and a day, we protect our justice system.
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But when the prime minister abuses the justice system and two young men are in jail because
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of his conduct and his acts, those men stand above because of the egregious acts of the
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If the prime minister's egregious acts had touched the Meng Wanzhou case, I could understand
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If a cop breaks a rule during an arrest, the perp walks free, even if they really shouldn't.
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But Trudeau's shenanigans didn't have anything to do with Meng Wanzhou.
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And I just, and actually, I have to tell you, I mean, I criticize Trudeau so full-time.
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My last three books in a row, Trumping Trudeau, the Libranos, and now China virus, they're
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When he was presented with this 19 signatures, including a former Supreme Court judge saying,
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do the prisoner swap, he actually, to my shock, rejected it.
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That's the first thing I can think of in five years that not only is he right, but he did
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And I, I don't know, I just feel like I see you want them back and you're trying to, like
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a good lawyer, come up with some thread to do it.
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But just from a principled reason, and I tell you, you do that.
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Not only does China crow, we, we handle Canada, we boss Canada around, we won the staring contest
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with Canada, but they're going to take another hostage the next day and see what they can
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And before you know it, everyone knows you can, under Justin Trudeau, you can take a hostage
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And that's the risk that you put yourself when you have what I'll call an errant prime
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If you honestly believe, and Ezra, you're way too smart for this.
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If you honestly believe that Justin Trudeau has now found a spine and a dose of honesty
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to reject what was presented to him to stand for justice, you know that's not true.
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This is all staged to make Justin Trudeau undo the damage that he did for 10 years, for
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This is to do, to build the re-reputation of Trudeau, pretend that he is a defender of
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Because you cannot be a defender of justice, even to this day.
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Ezra, I mean, come on, you're better than this.
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Even to this day, the guy's giving a billion dollars to the We Foundation after he's gone
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through the whole affair and found in his first conflict of interest when he went to
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He gave $50 million, $40 million, should have recused himself.
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So he is not concerned about justice, ethics, or duty.
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He's now going to be reported again for this issue.
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And I'm sure the We Foundation, the commissioner, will find that he breached his duties again.
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This is a reputation building by his, what I'll call the liberal gang, the liberal elite,
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I'm still thinking of those two young men that were put in this position because directly
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And for that reason, the Prime Minister, here's what should happen, Ezra.
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In my view, what should happen, our media should at least, and I say media excludes Rebel
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and you guys because you're doing a job that is incredible.
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But the rest of the 99% paid media, what they should be doing is be honest.
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These two young men are in trouble because the Prime Minister acted recklessly with the
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and there should be a call for him to say, I screwed up.
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Honestly, there is a decision by the ethics commissioner that says, I obstructed justice
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These two men are there and I have to get them back.
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It's through his direct actions that these two young men are found and now charged.
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I'm sure China is just beside themselves saying, hey, why isn't this guy doing it?
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So this is not a man that's concerned about justice.
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If he was concerned about justice, there wouldn't be 15 guilty pleas under the 15 different
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He wouldn't have members of cabinet that were also found guilty in conflict of interest.
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You know, with respect to another issue, we are in a pandemic and the pandemic, we slammed
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When was the last time anyone talked about, when did this minister, this Prime Minister,
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talk about the Charter of Rights of Individuals?
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Well, he's all holed up and I call it self-hiding.
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It's not even self-quarantity, he's just hiding from the world, living like a reculus.
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Well, Manny, listen, I appreciate you making the case.
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I myself have to tell you, I am not convinced, but it was an excellent exercise.
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You would make an outstanding law school professor because you certainly make students think.
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I'm going to invite our viewers to weigh in with their thought on your approach.
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Send me a note to Ezra at rebelnews.com and I'll read some of the replies on tomorrow's
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In the meantime, Manny, always an education, always a thought-provoking conversation and
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we love you and we can hardly wait to talk to you again soon.
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Manny Montenegreno, the CEO of ThinkSharp, joined us via Skype from Ottawa.
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Well, I didn't expect that from Manny Montenegreno.
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I think he was trying to make the intellectual case that Justin Trudeau should confess that
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he's a corrupter of our legal system and let Meng Wanzhou go on that basis.
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I was surprised that he wanted to let Meng Wanzhou go.
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I think his point is Trudeau is just so corrupt he should come clean about it.
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Well, I agree with that part of it, but I don't see the linkage to letting an actual accused
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I tell you, every young person wants to be internet famous.
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I'm not such a young person and I suppose I value internet fame, but not fame for itself.
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If I look at TikTok before I deleted it from my phone, there's countless people who just
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I think Clara Janover much prefers her TikTok fame than an actual hard work job at Deloitte.
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Well, let me know what you think on all these subjects.
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Do you think he was just speaking as a thought exercise, an imagination exercise?
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.