Rebel News Podcast - October 07, 2020


Catherine McKenna's Indonesia adventure


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

160.24817

Word Count

5,691

Sentence Count

443

Misogynist Sentences

35

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Catherine McKenna ate a dog, watched a cockfight, and attended a forced marriage in her 20s. And it's all caught on video. Here's the story of how she did it, and why it's a big deal.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today's podcast, you're going to find it stomach-turning, literally.
00:00:07.160 So maybe I shouldn't ask you to get a video subscription.
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00:00:18.220 Today I talk about Catherine McKenna's trip to Indonesia in her 20s,
00:00:23.320 where she did some gross things. Yeah, gross is just gross, though.
00:00:27.320 She did some immoral things, and it's all on video.
00:00:30.820 I wish you could see the video. I'll describe it as best as I can.
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00:00:42.820 All right, here's the podcast.
00:00:57.320 Tonight, Catherine McKenna ate a dog, watched a cockfight, and attended a forced marriage.
00:01:05.400 No, this is not a joke. It's October 6th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:09.620 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:15.400 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:19.480 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:25.360 Great scoop the other day by the website The Post Millennial.
00:01:35.220 They found an old travel video featuring Catherine McKenna, the disgraced Trudeau cabinet minister,
00:01:40.740 back before she was in politics, and she was one of four stars, I guess, of a reality-style travel movie.
00:01:48.160 An early version of a travel blog or those Instagram travelers, but it was turned into a movie, 45 minutes.
00:01:55.960 It was sort of like a reality TV show before those were a big thing.
00:02:00.100 McKenna and three young men traveled together, lived in tents together,
00:02:05.400 really spent every waking and sleeping moment together for 60 days as they went through Indonesia.
00:02:10.660 That's a quirky arrangement, don't you think? But let's put that aside for now.
00:02:14.680 The Post Millennial clipped a few moments from the video, and obviously it got under McKenna's skin
00:02:20.480 because she responded publicly this way.
00:02:23.960 She said,
00:02:25.420 Conservatives seem to think a 25-year-old documentary that ran on Discovery's Travel Channel for years is a gotcha moment.
00:02:33.440 So here it is. Watch for yourself.
00:02:36.000 Then back to this century so we can keep helping people through COVID-19 and build a better Canada.
00:02:42.200 Well, I'm actually glad she tweeted that because I hadn't seen the original video.
00:02:48.440 I couldn't find it. I just saw the clips that the Post Millennial had published.
00:02:52.320 So I did what McKenna said, and I did watch the whole thing.
00:02:56.800 And it's pretty bad.
00:02:59.180 Here, I'll take you through some of it now.
00:03:00.780 As I mentioned, McKenna and three young men went hiking through Indonesia for two months.
00:03:05.900 Better known for its political and social unrest than its surf and sand,
00:03:11.360 Indonesia is one of the most diverse and exciting countries to travel.
00:03:15.140 With the prospect of fun and adventure, our group of four set out to travel from Jakarta to Flores in 60 days,
00:03:21.640 covering a span of 1,500 miles through some of the most remote regions in southern Indonesia.
00:03:27.540 And here's our star.
00:03:29.660 Catherine was the diplomat and the bravest one in the group.
00:03:31.980 But how she managed to keep her sanity with three other guys, we'll never know.
00:03:35.880 I'm going to tell you, it's torture being beside build-up.
00:03:38.340 I should mention that in the credits rolling at the end of the film,
00:03:41.820 McKenna is listed as a producer.
00:03:43.760 So she helped shape the message.
00:03:45.840 I mean, she lived it, obviously.
00:03:47.620 She was one of the stars.
00:03:49.000 But what she published, what they broadcast, had her approval.
00:03:52.940 This is her message.
00:03:54.560 Take a look.
00:03:55.000 All right, lots of it was boring.
00:04:00.280 Shots of McKenna sleeping on buses is not riveting TV.
00:04:04.340 But pretty soon it got a bit too exciting.
00:04:07.180 It even got criminal.
00:04:08.640 Here, watch this.
00:04:10.840 We picked up a hitchhiker named BMO who invited us to a Balinese cockfight.
00:04:15.160 We jumped at the opportunity.
00:04:17.000 This was going to be an adventure.
00:04:18.260 Before we entered the fight, BMO explained that everyone who watched
00:04:30.020 had to donate 5,000 Indonesian rupiah, or three U.S. dollars, as a bribe to the police.
00:04:35.760 Apparently the police would show up and threaten arrest if they didn't receive any money.
00:04:39.000 So to be clear, cockfighting is a crime.
00:04:42.980 It's pitting two animals against each other to the death.
00:04:46.480 It's the kind of thing that Michael Vick did to dogs, the disgraced NFL quarterback who
00:04:51.680 forced his own pets to fight and injure each other.
00:04:55.020 He also did extremely cruel things like drowning his pets alive.
00:04:59.400 He's sick.
00:05:00.840 People who abuse animals are sick.
00:05:03.480 They often go on to abuse people.
00:05:05.760 So that's what's going on here, except that these local peasants,
00:05:09.000 were actually affixing blades to the claws of these birds.
00:05:13.480 I mean, birds can hurt each other naturally.
00:05:15.460 Birds do fight with each other in nature.
00:05:18.180 But these men wanted it more violent, more painful,
00:05:21.040 and they insisted the fight be to the death.
00:05:25.400 So they attached these blades to these birds to wound and hurt each other,
00:05:30.960 and they forced the fight to go on until one animal died.
00:05:35.140 It was illegal.
00:05:35.920 So they collected money to pay bribes to any police who happened to come by.
00:05:43.380 And Catherine McKenna paid those bribes.
00:05:48.080 This wasn't something she hid.
00:05:50.460 They boasted about this in the documentary.
00:05:53.080 It was aired on TV, and McKenna, presumably, as a producer, got paid for this.
00:05:58.320 So they filmed illegal animal cruelty.
00:06:02.300 They filmed an illegal cockfight.
00:06:04.280 They filmed themselves not only breaking that law,
00:06:07.640 but putting together money to break another law, bribing the police.
00:06:11.660 And that shocking footage was so salacious,
00:06:15.280 it was bought by the Discovery Channel, apparently.
00:06:18.760 They paid for that, and McKenna made money off it.
00:06:22.480 Here's some more.
00:06:23.200 When the cocks were armed and ready for battle,
00:06:30.820 they were brought into the arena.
00:06:34.740 Only minutes before the duel to death,
00:06:36.720 people were given a last chance to bet.
00:06:41.040 And then the cockfight began.
00:06:42.760 As luck would have it, BMO's cock won,
00:06:57.420 and I was a few dollars richer.
00:06:59.840 And in tradition, the winner of the fight brought home the loser for dinner.
00:07:04.220 It's fun.
00:07:05.320 Yeah, it's fun.
00:07:07.240 The loser!
00:07:08.500 The loser!
00:07:09.520 The winner!
00:07:10.560 BMO's family would be eating well that night.
00:07:13.140 I suppose Indonesia is a cruel place,
00:07:15.760 but you don't have to engage in it.
00:07:17.920 You don't have to subsidize it.
00:07:19.700 You don't have to romanticize it, worsen it, with such joy.
00:07:23.620 Here's another scene where McKenna is eating dogs.
00:07:28.840 I found out one of the most popular dishes in Flores was dog.
00:07:33.640 Guess what we had for lunch?
00:07:38.040 Now, I don't know how the dogs were killed for her meal.
00:07:41.140 Were the dogs killed Michael Vick style?
00:07:44.520 I don't know.
00:07:45.560 Maybe they were killed painlessly.
00:07:46.980 I have no idea.
00:07:48.340 I understand that some places in the world eat dogs,
00:07:50.780 just like some places eat rabbits.
00:07:52.940 Some places eat horses.
00:07:54.040 But would you eat a dog?
00:07:57.160 I mean, would you?
00:07:58.620 Don't just think of the question.
00:07:59.820 Think of your answer.
00:08:00.680 If you were literally starving, you probably would.
00:08:04.760 But what if you were just on a vacation for kicks?
00:08:07.700 Would you eat a dog?
00:08:09.960 Catherine McKennell did.
00:08:11.200 Oh, did I call her McKennell?
00:08:13.480 I meant McKenna.
00:08:15.660 McKennell talks about dogs a lot.
00:08:17.680 I wonder if she's ever had any regret over eating a dog.
00:08:22.080 I wonder what kind of dog she ate.
00:08:24.660 Here's a tweet by her.
00:08:26.580 If only dogs could vote a total liberal.
00:08:29.920 Yeah, I don't think so, Catherine.
00:08:32.600 Dogs for Catherine.
00:08:34.980 Yeah, I know one dog that wouldn't be.
00:08:36.740 I don't know about you, but dog content is some of my favorite content.
00:08:42.080 Yeah, what was the dog content of your last meal?
00:08:44.980 That's what I want to know, McKennell.
00:08:47.740 My awesome seat companion, Brady.
00:08:50.060 A gorgeous Golden Lab guide dog.
00:08:53.020 Awesome, gorgeous.
00:08:54.860 Just don't say delicious, you creep.
00:08:57.800 I guess once you've paid to watch an illegal cockfight,
00:09:01.220 where abusing animals is literally the whole point of it,
00:09:04.300 merely eating a boiled dog might not seem so bad.
00:09:09.580 Although later in the movie, McKennell moans about missing steak.
00:09:13.320 I presume she means beef, but you never know with her.
00:09:17.300 I can name about a hundred things that I miss.
00:09:21.820 Miss cheese.
00:09:23.160 Miss milk.
00:09:24.640 I miss cereal.
00:09:26.620 I miss barbecues.
00:09:28.340 I miss steak.
00:09:30.300 Yeah, poor dear.
00:09:31.440 But there's one scene near the end of the movie about a wedding she attended.
00:09:35.760 Now, I understand arranged marriages.
00:09:38.560 It's when a bride's family and a groom's family make an agreement about a wedding,
00:09:43.020 and falling in love is not the key component, but rather the two families' compatibility.
00:09:48.140 There are very many successful arranged marriages.
00:09:51.600 The compatibility of both families is indeed important in life.
00:09:55.000 And many couples in such arranged marriages do fall in love.
00:09:59.520 In the romantic Western concept of the word, but that's not the primary purpose of it.
00:10:05.300 Arranged doesn't mean forced, by the way.
00:10:07.700 Many arranged marriages have the support of the bride and groom.
00:10:11.400 But what you are about to see is not that.
00:10:15.200 This is not two families agreeing to join together.
00:10:19.760 This is an auction.
00:10:24.260 This is the sale of a woman.
00:10:26.680 Not two families merging.
00:10:28.200 It's a young woman put up for sale to the highest bidder.
00:10:31.280 Men bid for her.
00:10:33.360 We don't know her age.
00:10:34.720 She might be a teenager.
00:10:36.080 It's hard to tell.
00:10:37.740 Both families do seem supportive, so the documentary claims.
00:10:41.280 But they say the brutal fact of it, she was bought and sold.
00:10:46.080 She was traded for a few animals and some cash.
00:10:49.920 She was sold like property.
00:10:52.920 We have a word for that.
00:10:55.280 Trafficked.
00:10:56.000 She was subject to human trafficking.
00:10:58.740 Take a look.
00:11:04.340 Looks like a traditional wedding feast here.
00:11:07.460 Should be good.
00:11:08.400 I think I've taken a little too much, though.
00:11:09.840 The bride price was three buffaloes and four and a half million rupees.
00:11:15.420 And we're eating two of the buffaloes tonight.
00:11:18.200 I've heard of dowries before.
00:11:20.360 It's like a pre-inheritance.
00:11:22.340 But I don't think that's what this was.
00:11:24.440 You heard them.
00:11:25.600 It was whoever paid the most got the woman for himself.
00:11:30.680 That's not an arranged marriage with a dowry.
00:11:33.560 That's not consent.
00:11:35.320 That is a woman for sale.
00:11:37.660 As the evening wound down, our hosts opened up a pink velvet honeymoon room.
00:11:44.220 This was where the bride and groom were to consummate their wedding.
00:11:47.560 But by the looks of the groom, maybe not.
00:11:50.260 Who knows?
00:11:52.480 Who knows?
00:11:52.820 Maybe that girl was actually 18.
00:11:54.960 Maybe it was all voluntary.
00:11:56.740 Maybe she wasn't really sold for some cash and two buffaloes or whatever it was.
00:12:01.940 Maybe this is what Catherine McKennell means when she says, she's a feminist.
00:12:06.140 Go, girl power.
00:12:07.740 Just like Justin Trudeau is a feminist.
00:12:09.560 Just like Harvey Weinstein is a feminist.
00:12:11.960 Just like Gian Gomeschi is a feminist.
00:12:14.280 Just like Jeffrey Epstein was a feminist.
00:12:18.080 I believe in traveling.
00:12:19.440 I believe in traveling to places where their cultures are different from our own.
00:12:23.640 I've been to Iraq.
00:12:25.640 Not exactly a feminist bastion.
00:12:27.560 I've been to China.
00:12:28.920 Not a place to let your dog off the leash.
00:12:31.400 I was a guest in both countries, though.
00:12:33.180 I didn't go to scold them.
00:12:34.780 But neither did I go to participate in things that are morally repugnant to me.
00:12:39.460 Eating dog meat is not illegal.
00:12:43.580 And it is culturally acceptable in some countries.
00:12:46.420 I just don't think I could eat a bite without my body making me gag and throw up.
00:12:50.640 My gag reflex would take over.
00:12:52.420 How could she do that as a professed dog lover?
00:12:56.200 Just how on earth could she do that?
00:12:59.240 But the cockfight.
00:13:01.000 To deliberately cheer and lust for the painful death of an animal.
00:13:04.980 Imagine the people gathered there.
00:13:07.660 Where's her moral compunction?
00:13:10.460 And I'm not sure if it's worse.
00:13:11.820 I think it is to pay into a bribe fund.
00:13:15.420 So if the Indonesian government, you know, they were trying to stop cockfighting.
00:13:19.240 It was against the law.
00:13:19.940 They had police trying to enforce the laws against animal cruelty.
00:13:23.040 But a bunch of rich Westerners put in some real cash to corrupt the local police.
00:13:27.660 To stop them from cracking down on animal abuse.
00:13:30.540 Indonesia was trying to do the right thing.
00:13:33.380 Catherine McKenna just wanted her documentary and she wanted to film the blood.
00:13:37.100 But what about that marriage?
00:13:40.480 We don't know enough about it to judge for sure.
00:13:44.420 I don't think we can trust much that the narrator of this strange documentary says.
00:13:50.100 But if we take them at face value, this was not two families agreeing to join together.
00:13:56.220 This was not two families who believed that their children was a match.
00:13:59.820 And that lust or romantic love was just less important in compatibility.
00:14:02.920 I can respect an arranged marriage.
00:14:06.680 This was not an arranged marriage like that though.
00:14:09.320 Going by McKenna's movie, she was a producer, not just a star of it.
00:14:13.700 That young woman was sold for the highest price.
00:14:17.680 Sold.
00:14:19.020 If someone had offered more cash in the auction, she'd be with him.
00:14:23.920 It wasn't really arranged at all, was it?
00:14:26.060 The only arrangement was the paying of the price.
00:14:29.360 We don't sell women.
00:14:31.180 We certainly don't sell girls.
00:14:32.940 That's a form of slavery.
00:14:34.360 That's the definition of trafficking.
00:14:38.160 I think Catherine McKenna owes us an explanation for these things.
00:14:42.100 She wasn't a child when she went there.
00:14:43.880 She wasn't a teenager.
00:14:45.320 Catherine McKenna, I mean, she went there as a grown woman.
00:14:47.660 She was in her mid-twenties already.
00:14:49.560 She was sophisticated already, educated.
00:14:51.460 Even if the decision to do these things was made in the spur of the moment, the decision
00:14:56.660 to participate in a cockfight and bribe police, to eat dog meat, to celebrate a woman being
00:15:01.540 sold, she had time to contemplate them, to think about them.
00:15:04.720 The movie was made and produced and broadcast long after the fact.
00:15:08.520 As a producer, she would have helped choose what was in the final cut.
00:15:12.720 She approved of the messages after reflecting on the whole thing.
00:15:16.880 This is who she is, and presumably she got paid for it.
00:15:23.000 Catherine McKenna is an immoral, unethical woman.
00:15:27.380 And if you've got a dog, do yourself a favor and keep it on a leash when McKenna is nearby.
00:15:33.080 What do you think?
00:15:34.960 I think Catherine McKenna has to answer for these things.
00:15:37.860 There is an answer.
00:15:39.380 Does she regret them?
00:15:40.860 Does she regret eating dog meat?
00:15:43.040 But that's the least of it.
00:15:43.920 Does she regret in attending a bloody, deathly cockfight that abused animals?
00:15:49.560 Does she regret bribing police?
00:15:51.880 And does this feminist have any compunction about attending the wedding of someone who
00:15:57.080 was sold for the highest price?
00:15:59.760 You know, there's not a lot to laugh at here, but we've got to have a sense of humor about things.
00:16:04.540 We decided to sell this t-shirt that says,
00:16:08.160 Don't Eat Me!
00:16:09.000 A gentle reminder of what Catherine McKenna did, the least of what she did.
00:16:15.280 If you want a copy of this shirt, go to Catherine McKenna, spelt the right way,
00:16:21.260 Catherine, M-C-K-E-N-N-E-L dot com.
00:16:27.420 Stay with us for more.
00:16:28.440 Welcome back.
00:16:42.240 Well, it's about a month to the U.S. election.
00:16:44.760 Extremely exciting.
00:16:45.800 I tell you, there's more news jammed into a day than into a month, into a year in the past.
00:16:52.480 It's hard to believe that it was just a week ago that Trump and Biden were squaring off in the
00:16:57.840 presidential debate.
00:16:58.740 Since then, Donald Trump has been diagnosed with COVID, gone to the hospital, come back.
00:17:04.600 And it's amazing.
00:17:06.480 Joe Biden has done town halls with sympathetic journalists, and he's brought out the age-old
00:17:12.240 slur that Donald Trump is a Nazi sympathizer.
00:17:17.900 It's laughable.
00:17:19.160 In fact, as you may know, his daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism, married another Jew named
00:17:24.980 Jared Kushner.
00:17:25.880 Their family is Jewish.
00:17:27.540 The kids call him Zaydi, which is the Yiddish word for grandpa.
00:17:32.800 Not just that, but Trump has done what I personally thought was impossible, namely bringing peace
00:17:38.680 to large swaths of the Middle East.
00:17:40.740 Forget about small symbolic things like moving the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem,
00:17:46.060 but actually brokering peace.
00:17:48.760 Is he the best president ever for the Jews?
00:17:52.440 That's something that's not just of interest to Jews.
00:17:55.080 It's of interest to anyone who wants an election where you don't throw the word Nazi at someone
00:18:01.460 just because they're a conservative.
00:18:02.740 Joining us now via Skype is our friend Joel Pollack.
00:18:05.140 Joel, great to see you again.
00:18:07.120 Good to see you too.
00:18:08.480 Joel, I think there are Jews who are interested in this subject.
00:18:13.180 There are Zionist Christians who are interested in Israel and being pro-Israel.
00:18:18.680 And there's conservatives who aren't motivated by religion who just support the West's ally
00:18:25.040 in the region.
00:18:25.720 I think of how I think of Taiwan.
00:18:28.480 I have no ethnic or religious tie to it.
00:18:30.400 I just know it's the good guy.
00:18:31.560 But larger than the case of Israel itself, I'm just sick of the left and the media and the
00:18:38.860 professional hate finders using the word Nazi to demonize anyone on the right.
00:18:43.640 What do you think?
00:18:44.200 Well, it's shorthand for a bad person.
00:18:49.200 So I don't know that it necessarily convinces anyone who doesn't already dislike Donald Trump,
00:18:55.320 but it is effective in making it harder to support him publicly, especially because so
00:19:02.040 much of the media agree with what the left is telling the public.
00:19:07.060 They are, in fact, the vehicle and the authors, in many cases, of many of these negative messages.
00:19:13.800 So the word Nazi has been cheapened to the point where even Jewish organizations no longer
00:19:19.820 complain when someone misuses an analogy to the Holocaust.
00:19:25.120 When Joe Biden compared Donald Trump to Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister who was
00:19:31.240 Hitler's right hand man and chief anti-Semite, nobody complained.
00:19:38.080 The Anti-Defamation League offered a weak statement several days later, but they didn't
00:19:42.480 mention Biden by name.
00:19:44.460 In contrast, when Donald Trump was asked to denounce white supremacists at the first presidential
00:19:49.180 debate, and he did so, they said he didn't do so strongly enough.
00:19:52.720 And they circulated a petition to get Jewish organizations to oppose Donald Trump.
00:19:58.280 Now, they watered it down significantly after we blew the lid off it, when we got a leak
00:20:04.000 from someone who was given the petition and they had to water it down.
00:20:09.420 They removed the name Trump from the petition, but they retained the substance.
00:20:14.140 There is a real kind of self-destruction going on among Jewish institutions that have been
00:20:20.460 unwilling to stand up against this sort of desecration of the Holocaust because so many
00:20:25.160 of them are owned essentially by the Democratic Party, that they understand the task for them
00:20:31.580 is not to protect the community.
00:20:34.260 The task for them is to try to push for a change in administration without risking their
00:20:39.780 tax-exempt status as apolitical organizations.
00:20:42.980 I find it very frustrating, and I see it in Canada, too, to a lesser extent.
00:20:48.500 I mean, the ADL, which stands for the Anti-Defamation League, we have sort of a branch of that
00:20:53.120 in Canada, but it's more independent.
00:20:55.420 The ADL is actually run by a former senior Obama aide.
00:21:01.300 So I don't think they're even pretending to be nonpartisan.
00:21:03.900 Up here in Canada, about a decade ago, I was actually on the board of our version of
00:21:09.720 AIPAC, it was called the Canada-Israel Committee, and it morphed into other things, and there
00:21:14.940 was at least an attempt to have people of the conservative and the liberal and even other
00:21:21.140 stripes on it just to avoid the groupthink and in the knowledge that, you know, there
00:21:28.640 are changes in party and the opposition today may be in government next time, and it's a good
00:21:34.200 idea to have all parties sympathetic to Israel and fighting against anti-Semitism.
00:21:39.720 I find it odd that so much of the official Jewish establishment, or at least the so-called
00:21:45.620 anti-Semitic establishment, is on one side.
00:21:49.480 You'd think they would want to have friends in all parties and make this an issue about
00:21:53.540 which there is no partisan disagreement.
00:21:57.280 So it's important to understand that the money in politics right now is largely on the left.
00:22:02.240 The reason so much of what is happening, which seems unsustainable, if it were, to support
00:22:09.000 itself from its own fundraising, continues to occur, is because there are millions and millions
00:22:14.240 of dollars pouring in to the budgets of far left-wing organizations, pouring into the coffers
00:22:20.080 of far left-wing candidates who would have no chance in an ordinary time.
00:22:24.920 The money is on the left, and these organizations go where the money goes.
00:22:29.000 It's not, and let me just say this as a Jew, not because they're Jewish organizations, because
00:22:33.440 all organizations are doing the same thing.
00:22:36.040 And it is part of what might be called the racism industry.
00:22:41.120 That's another aspect of this, where organizations like the ADL have to hype the dangers of white
00:22:48.760 supremacy so they can cough up or get donors to cough up the money to keep these organizations
00:22:56.320 going in an age where actually the need for an ADL is less than it's ever been before.
00:23:01.220 Jews are widely accepted in society.
00:23:03.740 Jews are very prominent within the president's own family, even though he's very out about his
00:23:08.580 Christianity. This is an era where Jews have never enjoyed wider acceptance within American
00:23:13.880 society, and so this is a problem for the ADL. American society is also more tolerant in general
00:23:18.880 toward all minorities, blacks, immigrants, gays, and what have you. So the ADL has to manufacture
00:23:24.860 this crisis to some extent. That's why when there were 200 hoax bomb threats back in 2017,
00:23:31.180 the ADL still included the hoaxes in their annual statistics of anti-Semitic attacks, even though
00:23:37.620 they were fake. And the ADL uses those annual reports to go to donors and members of the public
00:23:44.200 asking for money. And other organizations work the same way, not just in the Jewish community,
00:23:49.340 in the black community, particularly also Catholic community. The Southern Poverty Law Center works
00:23:55.040 the same way. There's an interest financially in hyping the danger of these threats, and that's part of
00:24:01.180 the other part is that politically the money's on the left. Conservative donors are very, very bad
00:24:06.560 at funding the kinds of organizations that would sustain conservative politics outside of the normal
00:24:13.200 election cycle. What you see in terms of Donald Trump and the Republican Party is almost exclusively
00:24:19.420 related to grassroots fundraising, and there are some mega donors and so forth, but those are people
00:24:25.900 who focus on electing politicians and on promoting issues. There are very, very few billionaires on
00:24:34.120 the Republican side who invest in what might be called the institutional right, whereas the
00:24:37.920 institutional left is an entire ecosystem. Yeah, you know, we've gone through the Open Societies
00:24:43.120 Foundation. That's George Soros' own foundation. It's such an interesting website because it's not shy.
00:24:51.080 I mean, they use words to fudge what they're really up to, but they're quite boastful, and they,
00:24:56.860 right on their front page, acknowledge that Soros has given and pledged over $30 billion to these
00:25:06.240 institutional battles on the left. There's, I mean, I think of the families on the right, the Koch
00:25:12.780 Foundation, the Koch Industries. Richard Mellon Scaife was the, if I'm getting the name right, was the
00:25:20.100 fellow in the past. You know, they might give $100 million. They might give a billion over a lifetime,
00:25:26.320 but here's Soros personally in for $30 billion. I think it's not just in the Jewish community. I
00:25:32.600 think it's in the black community, radicalizing that community through Black Lives Matter. I think
00:25:37.460 it's in the environmental movement, which has been radicalized. I think it's in the Hispanic
00:25:43.280 movement, La Raza. I think that, ironically, it's the left with the dough. I think if you ask the
00:25:50.460 ordinary person, they'd say, oh, no, big companies have the dough. Yeah, but they're leftists these
00:25:54.180 days.
00:25:56.980 Yeah, and again, the money on the right doesn't go into these kinds of permanent, agitating
00:26:03.200 organizations. I mean, the reason you have pro-life organizations is because there are a lot of
00:26:07.360 Christians. That's an organic source for pro-life activism. But the reason you have so much Antifa
00:26:13.400 is not because there are so many Americans who hate America. It's because there's a way of doing
00:26:19.060 this that fits in with the budgets of left-wing organizations. We showed several years ago how
00:26:26.020 many of the original Black Lives Matter protests back in 2014, 2015 were being supported in part by
00:26:34.140 Soros-funded organizations. At a recent riot in Louisville, Kentucky, after the announcement that
00:26:40.200 police officers wouldn't be directly charged in the death of Breonna Taylor, there was a woman who
00:26:44.360 showed up in a U-Haul truck, and people ran to the U-Haul truck and pulled out shields and signs and
00:26:50.040 weapons. And this woman turned out to be affiliated with a bail reform organization that I believe was
00:26:56.380 also Soros-funded. So, again, you have this kind of regiment or reserve of these left-wing soldiers
00:27:05.360 who are given gainful employment, if you can call it that, during the interim between protest actions.
00:27:11.200 And when things go nuts, then they're always there. You know, they're able to support themselves
00:27:17.020 financially. Conservatives don't do this. And I think most people would prefer this part of our
00:27:24.480 political world fade away. It hasn't contributed anything positive. It doesn't increase civic
00:27:29.400 engagement. Quite the opposite. I mean, George Soros calls his foundation the open society, but often
00:27:34.200 it's the opposite. George Soros is now synonymous with shutting down free speech, eliminating conservatives
00:27:40.600 from political discourse, and turning our cities upside down, which is exactly the opposite of how most
00:27:46.680 people want to live in an open society. Yeah. Ironically, if you mention that, that's called
00:27:52.660 anti-Semitic. Even here in Canada, a conservative MP didn't even allude to anything other than Soros
00:27:58.980 money causing strife, and she was denounced as anti-Semitic. The irony there being, of course,
00:28:05.640 Soros himself was born Jewish, but has expressed his antipathy towards the religion and is hostile to
00:28:13.580 the modern state. So it's very crazy times when a defender of Israel and Jews like Donald Trump
00:28:18.860 is called the word Nazi, but it shouldn't surprise us. I'm sure you are called that too, and you're
00:28:24.400 a practicing Jew. I'm not as observant as perhaps I should be. We're called that. It doesn't even mean
00:28:30.380 anything when it's thrown against us, but it cheapens the phrase. I wish we weren't called Nazis
00:28:36.600 because we have to keep that word like a sharp knife that's not dulled by overuse. Once in a while,
00:28:42.180 you really do have an anti-Semite or a Nazi. You need that word to mean something by calling Trump,
00:28:47.420 you, me, whatever, Nazis. The word doesn't have any meaning. Last word to you, Joel.
00:28:52.520 Well, I think that we have also arrived at the point where there's a larger problem
00:28:58.740 with the way the public has been taught about the Holocaust. Especially in the United States,
00:29:04.780 we've taught about the Nazis and the Holocaust as sort of a subset of a larger problem of racial
00:29:10.440 prejudice. So the idea is that there's a slippery slope. Once you start disliking a certain group of
00:29:16.560 people or if some people are discriminated against or if some people merely have less than others,
00:29:21.260 there's a slippery slope to the death camps. And to some extent, I think Jewish people in a well-meaning
00:29:28.940 way have also played into this. But if you actually look at what Nazism was about, Nazism was about the
00:29:34.960 idea that society is defined by races and that races have a place in a hierarchy and that institutional
00:29:44.700 arrangements have to be redone so that each race can occupy its appropriate place. And you start to
00:29:54.080 get into a philosophy that looks a lot more like what the left wants to do to American society than what
00:29:59.360 the right wants to do. I'm not one of those who thinks that national socialism is a left-wing
00:30:04.360 ideology. I don't think we can really describe the Nazis as being left. But I do think that today's
00:30:09.780 left is fascist in some of its ideology and their insistence on the importance of race, which goes
00:30:17.720 against everything in the liberal small L tradition, goes against the best of the American civil rights
00:30:24.760 movement. That insistence on race has a lot to do with the racial theories that really did lead
00:30:30.680 ultimately to the isolation of Jews within Europe, which preceded their extermination. I'm not saying
00:30:36.580 that we're in danger of exterminating anybody in the West. But just this morning, the Associated Press,
00:30:44.000 for example, did an article about how Trump's prosecutors, his U.S. attorneys, are overwhelmingly white,
00:30:52.180 or they're more white than Obama's was. Now, you're not asking the important questions, which is,
00:30:57.880 are they better at fighting crime? Do they get better results? Do they protect people's rights
00:31:03.160 better? Are they an effective check on local and state corruption? I mean, you're not looking at
00:31:09.520 what these attorneys do or what these prosecutors do. You're basically judging them on the basis of
00:31:14.840 race. And this is a rule that the Associated Press only applies to one group. You can't use the word
00:31:20.560 illegal aliens or the phrase illegal aliens. You have to use undocumented immigrants, even though
00:31:24.480 they're not immigrants. They're aliens, according to the law and according to common English.
00:31:28.120 You can't use the word riots anymore. AP came out a few days ago saying people shouldn't use the word
00:31:32.300 riots because of its negative connotations. So the AP is exquisitely sensitive when it comes to
00:31:37.840 everybody except white people. But when it comes to white people, it has no problem publishing articles
00:31:43.120 that are syndicated everywhere about the problem with Trump's prosecutors being their race.
00:31:47.300 And we are creating a situation where we're disadvantaging and impoverishing American society
00:31:54.180 as a whole by reintroducing race into our political discussion. If you ask people how we will know
00:32:00.120 when our society is no longer systemically racist, they'll say things like, well, when every race is
00:32:05.880 equally represented in some institution or another. That's the idea the Nazis had. The Nazis had the idea
00:32:11.080 that Jews were disproportionately represented in the professions and in business,
00:32:14.720 and they had to make way for Germans to take those spots, at least as regards their proportion of
00:32:20.700 the population. This is the same logic that's being used by some on the left, but they call it
00:32:25.080 socialism. But it's, you know, it's national socialism. It's essentially fascism. It's a form of
00:32:32.240 racism that sees our demography as our destiny. And it's such a regression that I think, at least I hope,
00:32:42.560 historians will look back one day at this moment and wonder how we possibly could have lost our collective minds
00:32:47.460 and lost touch with all the reasons we fought, all the struggles we did in the 20th century,
00:32:51.780 only to repeat the mistakes in the 21st. I hope it doesn't come to that, and I hope that our history isn't erased
00:32:56.780 if it does. But that's where we are right now. And I think that the lesson of societies that introduce race,
00:33:05.920 whether it's apartheid South Africa or post-liberations in Babu, you might even say
00:33:11.320 post-apartheid South Africa, but let me be at least generous there, any society that reintroduces race
00:33:16.660 is a society on the path to self-destruction.
00:33:20.900 We learn so much from you every time, Joel. What a pleasure to hear from you. Thanks for taking the time with us.
00:33:26.060 Thank you.
00:33:26.580 There you have it, Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at Breitbart.com. A lot to think about there.
00:33:30.540 Stay with us. More ahead.
00:33:35.920 Hey, welcome back. On last night's monologue, Phil writes,
00:33:48.360 Doug Ford is high in the polls, so why not continue restricting civil liberties?
00:33:51.940 That's what's so terrifying. There are a lot of politicians going back to elections right now.
00:33:56.700 There was just one in the Atlantic. Now, of course, Saskatchewan's going to the polls.
00:34:01.580 B.C.'s going to the polls. And I believe that people are afraid, and so they're just, well,
00:34:05.600 let's just stay with the government we have. I think Doug Ford, if he called an election now,
00:34:10.160 I think he would win. I think if Justin Trudeau called an election right now, I think he would
00:34:13.740 win. I think people are afraid, and they're giving up their civil liberties too easily.
00:34:19.280 Dad Zacharias writes, Doug Ford has turned out to be an idiot that follows the perceived vote wind.
00:34:24.660 How sad. Rob must be rolling in his grave.
00:34:27.760 We don't know what two brothers would have said about each other, and may Rob rest in peace,
00:34:31.900 but I think Rob truly believed in the grassroots wisdom. Doug, he just, I think he's more of a
00:34:38.440 schemer, and I think in many ways, Doug Ford has shown that he'll switch course if it profits him
00:34:44.840 politically. And on my interview with Andrew Lawton, P.J. Smith writes,
00:34:49.940 Andrew Lawton, net positive, I disagree. Biden is still hiding in this basement,
00:34:54.620 and this gives Trump time to come out to rallies at the end of the cycle.
00:34:58.700 Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, we hear that Trump says he will attend the debate next week.
00:35:05.060 So, things are so fluid. Things are happening so crazily. A year in a day. That's how fast the
00:35:11.920 news is moving. Well, that's our show for today. Hey, if you want that Catherine McKennell
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