Rebel News Podcast - February 13, 2021


CBC Agrees： Erin O'Toole Must Distance From Jason Kenney Next


Episode Stats

Length

31 minutes

Words per Minute

169.55916

Word Count

5,354

Sentence Count

410

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

In this episode of The Ezra LeVant Show, I take you through a very unethical story at the CBC. The lies of omission and the lies of commission here are gross, even for the CBC, but the thing is, like the princess and the pea under 30 mattresses of lies, there's actually a little grain of truth. And it's about Aaron O'Toole's plans for the Conservative Party.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today, I take you through a very unethical story at the CBC.
00:00:03.700 Now, you're probably saying that doesn't narrow it down, but this one is special.
00:00:07.160 The lies of omission and the lies of commission here are super gross, even for the CBC.
00:00:13.040 But the thing is, like the princess and the pea under 30 mattresses of lies,
00:00:17.540 there's actually a little grain of truth, and it's about Aaron O'Toole's plans for the Conservative Party.
00:00:22.760 I hope you enjoyed today's show.
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00:00:56.140 All right, here's today's show.
00:00:57.880 Tonight, the CBC and left-wing lobbyists all agree,
00:01:16.200 Aaron O'Toole has to distance himself from Jason Kenney next.
00:01:21.340 It's February 12th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:25.860 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:29.520 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:33.620 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:39.500 You're not going to believe this, but the CBC actually seems to have some information about Aaron O'Toole's campaign strategy.
00:01:50.100 I wouldn't have believed it.
00:01:51.300 I didn't believe it at first, but now I think I do.
00:01:54.260 And the strategy involves throwing Alberta Premier and former Harbor Cabinet Minister, throwing Jason Kenney under the bus.
00:02:01.240 I'm not kidding.
00:02:03.060 I'll prove it to you in a moment, but first some necessary background, as we've been talking about recently.
00:02:07.820 Aaron O'Toole, I mean, last month, he ditched Rebel News.
00:02:12.060 It was weird.
00:02:12.680 He did an email interview with me about my big scoop about the China files.
00:02:16.400 Remember that one?
00:02:16.940 I thought he came across pretty well in the interview, but he panicked when the media party gave him flack for it.
00:02:23.260 And just literally hours after we published that interview, he distanced himself from us.
00:02:27.880 Okay, whatever.
00:02:29.640 And then there was the fake scandal about Derek Sloan.
00:02:32.840 You remember that one.
00:02:34.120 Someone calling himself Frederick P. Fromm donated about 100 bucks to Sloan's leadership campaign,
00:02:39.960 which had raised more than a million bucks.
00:02:41.660 So it was a small donation by an unknown person, but it turned out that Frederick P. Fromm was actually Paul Fromm,
00:02:48.360 a racist who had some notoriety in the 1990s.
00:02:51.540 No one detected that, not Sloan's campaign volunteers, and not the Conservative Party headquarters,
00:02:57.240 who issued Fromm a membership and took their cut of the donation.
00:03:01.520 As soon as Sloan found out about Fromm, he sent the donation back,
00:03:05.520 which, as far as I know, O'Toole hasn't done with his portion yet.
00:03:08.580 But O'Toole denounced Sloan for this fake scandal, denounced him as a racist with poor judgment,
00:03:15.040 which was absurd, which isn't true, which is extra absurd and untrue when you remember that
00:03:21.000 Derek Sloan's wife and kids are visible minorities.
00:03:23.720 Everyone knew this was a false accusation, bearing false witness, as some would say.
00:03:28.460 So two weirdnesses in a row.
00:03:30.080 And then the big one, throwing Pierre Polyev overboard, the main Conservative MP,
00:03:37.420 the only Conservative MP of note, I hate to say.
00:03:41.740 The only one you can name who's actually done any real political damage to the Liberals in the past year.
00:03:46.660 Ask Bill Morneau if you disagree.
00:03:48.780 That's right, you can't.
00:03:50.600 Bill Morneau resigned in a cloud of corruption, in part due to Pierre Polyev's excellent work.
00:03:55.080 So, yeah, he's a good guy.
00:03:56.600 As I showed you the other day, Pierre is much more popular with grassroots conservatives than Aaron O'Toole.
00:04:02.200 If Facebook followers and engagement is anything to go by these days, then I think it is.
00:04:06.340 So my first reaction, as I told you, was O'Toole is just jealous, tall poppy syndrome.
00:04:10.860 He hates the guy who is more impressive than him.
00:04:12.960 I thought it was just a rivalry thing, which is what I thought was about sacking his leadership rival, Derek Sloan.
00:04:18.740 But as I told you, I've changed my mind on that.
00:04:24.100 I now think it's part of an ideological strategy, and it makes me revisit a CBC story that I came across about two weeks ago
00:04:31.340 and didn't remark on at the time.
00:04:33.340 Let me, this is what I want to talk to you about today.
00:04:35.780 Look at this story.
00:04:36.960 And it's got a related podcast, which I listen to, but I won't punish you with.
00:04:40.240 But strategists say Aaron O'Toole must weigh if Jason Kenney is an asset or a liability.
00:04:46.980 I can barely read that without chuckling.
00:04:49.060 I mean, I couldn't believe that headline when I first read it.
00:04:51.080 Jason Kenney, even more than Pierre Polyev, is beloved by the conservative base,
00:04:56.160 at least in the eyes of the party base.
00:04:58.280 I think he's hated by liberals for the same reason, because he's good.
00:05:02.420 If Jason Kenney had run for the party leadership, he would have won overwhelmingly.
00:05:05.820 In fact, I don't think anyone else would even run against Kenney.
00:05:09.360 And you know, I think Kenney could have beaten Trudeau in 2019, but could have, should have, would have.
00:05:15.860 Anyways, Kenney is having a tough time in Alberta these days.
00:05:18.360 It's true, mainly because the province is in the toughest spot in Confederation.
00:05:21.820 The carbon tax, Trudeau killing three pipelines, and now Joe Biden killing the fourth,
00:05:26.580 plus recovering from the NDP policy time bombs planted by Rachel Notley, and now the pandemic.
00:05:31.980 But no doubt about it, Jason Kenney is still popular with the federal party base.
00:05:36.460 His endorsement of O'Toole over Peter McKay was very important.
00:05:41.060 I think it actually tipped the balance for O'Toole.
00:05:43.980 But look at the CBC story.
00:05:46.680 As O'Toole charts a course forward for the conservatives, and with Canadians divided over pipelines,
00:05:51.620 and Kenney navigating multiple simultaneous crises,
00:05:55.140 is the premier an asset or a liability?
00:05:58.240 Seriously, imagine O'Toole, or as I like to call him, O-Who,
00:06:01.960 thinking that Jason Kenney is a liability.
00:06:06.240 Well, that's what the CBC experts are saying to CBC journalists and to commentators.
00:06:13.140 Let me read.
00:06:14.280 Melissa Cowett, a political strategist with the Canadian Strategy Group,
00:06:20.060 told CBC's West of Centre podcast that conservatives are winning with massive margins
00:06:24.560 in Alberta and Saskatchewan, at the expense, apparently, of votes in the greater Toronto area and in Quebec.
00:06:32.520 It probably does make sense from an electoral math perspective for O'Toole to move a little bit more to the centre.
00:06:39.380 And I think there's still a path to victory if he does so, Cowett said.
00:06:45.040 Got it.
00:06:45.460 So, Aaron O'Toole has to hide Jason Kenney up in the attic if he wants to win in Ontario and the East, apparently.
00:06:53.680 That's what Melissa Cowett says.
00:06:56.600 Melissa Cowett, the name you know.
00:06:58.340 I mean, you know Melissa Cowett, right?
00:07:00.860 I mean, you just heard.
00:07:02.440 She's with the Canadian Strategy Group.
00:07:05.400 What, you don't know who the Canadian Strategy Group are?
00:07:08.500 Well, they do strategy for Canadians in a group.
00:07:13.480 You know.
00:07:15.060 And she was joined by this guy.
00:07:17.640 Former Conservative strategist Tim Powers, who is now chairman of Suma Strategies,
00:07:22.260 told West of Centre that holding the status quo won't secure O'Toole the win in the current climate.
00:07:29.220 O'Toole wants to win.
00:07:30.880 So he's got to take what some traditionalists describe as risks, Powers said.
00:07:34.480 I know this is one that causes tension, not just in Alberta and Saskatchewan, but also out East, is climate policy.
00:07:42.820 Powers said O'Toole would need to find common ground among younger millennial voters and urban voters in Ontario
00:07:49.600 for whom carbon pricing is a fact of life, unquote.
00:07:54.080 So you've got a strategist, Melissa Cowett, and a former strategist.
00:07:59.420 That's how they introduced Tim Powers.
00:08:00.860 What does it mean to be a former strategist?
00:08:04.480 And they both are in furious agreement.
00:08:07.740 They love the global warming stuff.
00:08:09.500 They love the carbon tax stuff.
00:08:11.060 The United Nations plan to shut down the oil sands.
00:08:13.820 They completely agree.
00:08:15.080 And you know, according to both Cowett and Powers, the kids these days do too.
00:08:21.580 The former strategist, he knows kids.
00:08:24.120 And he says that the kids love the carbon tax.
00:08:26.920 And you know it's true because he's a former strategist.
00:08:28.980 So what do we make of this story?
00:08:31.580 The first thing I want to mention is how deceptive, unethical, and dishonest this CBC report is.
00:08:39.080 Melissa Cowett is not a strategist.
00:08:41.940 She is a registered lobbyist.
00:08:46.180 It's different.
00:08:47.480 A strategist is whatever you want.
00:08:49.800 I don't know.
00:08:50.520 Someone who works for a political party and helps plan their campaign strategy,
00:08:54.700 helps decide what the party should say to win,
00:08:56.660 to campaign, what candidates to choose, what ads to run.
00:09:00.960 I think that's a strategist for a political party.
00:09:03.700 Melissa Cowett does not have that position in the Conservative Party.
00:09:07.640 I don't think she's a strategist.
00:09:09.720 She is a lobbyist.
00:09:11.900 Do you know what a lobbyist is?
00:09:13.020 A bought and paid for lobbyist hired by the hour
00:09:16.400 to do whatever a corporate client tells her to do?
00:09:20.440 Don't take my word for it.
00:09:21.720 Here is her website.
00:09:23.800 It is a lobbying firm.
00:09:26.960 She's the vice president of a group of lobbyists.
00:09:30.360 You can literally pay her to say anything you want.
00:09:35.360 And here's what you get when you type her name
00:09:37.520 into the Alberta government's lobbyist registry.
00:09:41.760 She is paid by so many people for or against this oil project or that oil project.
00:09:47.620 Incredibly, it looks like she's paid for by the people who own the Keystone Excel project,
00:09:53.320 but she seems to be arguing against that project.
00:09:56.640 I'm so confused.
00:09:58.140 Cowett said O'Toole should view Kenny as a liability,
00:10:02.220 but that could change, unquote.
00:10:04.960 That's really, really weird.
00:10:06.600 And Tim Powers, the other former strategist,
00:10:09.240 what about him?
00:10:10.280 Well, same exact thing.
00:10:11.720 He's not a strategist about anything that I can detect,
00:10:14.580 other than how to be a great lobbyist and make a lot of money selling influence.
00:10:20.160 He's an influence peddler.
00:10:21.440 He helps run a lobbying firm called Summer Strategies.
00:10:24.520 And again, not so much strategies as, you know, lobbying for hire.
00:10:29.660 Here's Powers' own lobbyist registration from Ottawa.
00:10:33.000 He works for a hydrocarbon recycling company called Origin International.
00:10:37.700 Here's their website.
00:10:39.000 So if he's doing any strategy for a living,
00:10:42.640 I think it's to get Origin International,
00:10:45.660 their goals achieved with the federal government.
00:10:49.500 That's who he's lobbying.
00:10:50.320 He's lobbying the Trudeau government for companies like that.
00:10:55.280 And Cowett is trying to get her various clients' goals achieved with government.
00:11:00.700 So why is it that they are being asked for their opinion about oil pipelines
00:11:06.580 and political campaigns when, in fact, they have personal interests,
00:11:12.160 hidden interests in those exact same subjects?
00:11:14.980 They are literally being paid by people to take positions on these issues.
00:11:20.840 Paid.
00:11:21.860 It's considered such a risk to our democracy to be a lobbyist
00:11:25.320 that we require lobbyists to disclose that relationship to any public office holder,
00:11:31.680 register online, disclose any communication with public office holders
00:11:35.480 because we want everything to be transparent.
00:11:37.560 We don't want people to be tricked or hidden.
00:11:41.000 We want to shine a light of public scrutiny on the lobbyists.
00:11:43.080 Now, we don't ban lobbying.
00:11:44.960 Lobbying can actually be quite noble.
00:11:47.020 It can be important.
00:11:48.600 Everyone should have the right to pester politicians
00:11:51.220 and ask for things and criticize things and suggest things.
00:11:54.600 And if someone isn't personally in Ottawa,
00:11:56.960 they ought to be able to hire someone who is, hire a pro.
00:12:00.580 Even, I think, foreign companies ought to be able to talk
00:12:02.880 to Canadian politicians about things.
00:12:04.400 Sure, sure.
00:12:06.060 But the whole reason we have lobbyist registries
00:12:08.860 is to disclose that to the public,
00:12:12.040 to show who's paying who to talk to whom.
00:12:15.840 So why didn't the CBC disclose that to their viewers?
00:12:19.400 Why didn't the CBC say that their two pundits
00:12:23.600 weren't, in fact, pundits?
00:12:25.480 They're not, in fact, strategists
00:12:27.040 in the normal meaning of that word.
00:12:29.120 They are paid, rented, hired lobbyists
00:12:33.420 taking cash to promote their clients.
00:12:37.720 And it's such a dangerous thing, if it's kept secret,
00:12:40.380 that they are forced by law to disclose it in a registry.
00:12:43.540 But the CBC didn't mention it to its viewers,
00:12:46.140 didn't even mention that they are lobbyists at all,
00:12:48.340 let alone who their clients are,
00:12:50.880 that Powers is actually the boss of a lobby group.
00:12:53.980 What the hell is going on?
00:12:56.280 And frankly, why would a Keystone XL lobbyist
00:13:00.200 trash Jason Kenney to the CBC?
00:13:02.900 What on earth?
00:13:03.480 Who's more unethical here?
00:13:06.240 These lobbyists for hiding their conflicts of interest?
00:13:09.540 Or the CBC for going along with the hidden conflicts of interest?
00:13:13.440 Hey, anything to bash Alberta and help Trudeau, right?
00:13:16.320 But then again, fair enough.
00:13:18.800 The CBC itself takes $1.5 billion a year in cash from Trudeau.
00:13:23.400 And they don't disclose that on the TV screen,
00:13:25.840 like a disclaimer, whenever they publish a love letter to Trudeau.
00:13:29.480 So corruption is the norm over at the CBC.
00:13:32.760 Being unethical is the norm over at the CBC.
00:13:36.220 It's a state broadcaster.
00:13:37.720 It's about political corruption and lies.
00:13:40.260 But I now believe, though,
00:13:42.880 there is a grain of truth under all these lies.
00:13:46.420 Tim Powers is lying by omission
00:13:48.300 when he hides his role as a lobbyist.
00:13:51.240 Melissa Kilwet is lying by omission
00:13:54.000 when she hides her role as a lobbyist.
00:13:56.060 The CBC lies by falsely describing these two lobbyists
00:13:59.680 as mere strategists or former strategists or pundits.
00:14:02.900 The CBC hates Alberta.
00:14:04.400 They hate oil.
00:14:05.480 They hate you.
00:14:06.700 Liars upon liars.
00:14:08.040 There's layers of liars.
00:14:10.900 But like the princess and the pea,
00:14:12.640 there is a grain of truth under all of it, I think.
00:14:15.920 I actually believe them, these liars.
00:14:19.580 I actually believe that Aaron O'Toole
00:14:21.500 really is going to throw out Jason Kenney.
00:14:24.640 He's just next.
00:14:26.500 After us at Rebel News and then Derek Sloan
00:14:28.720 and then Pierre Polyev.
00:14:30.860 Aaron O'Toole, I do believe,
00:14:33.440 is going to throw out Jason Kenney.
00:14:35.260 He's too embarrassing, too right-wing.
00:14:38.980 I actually think the CBC did not cook up this story
00:14:41.900 just with its two secret lobbyists.
00:14:44.080 I think Aaron O'Toole probably planted this story.
00:14:48.760 I think Aaron O'Toole likes this story.
00:14:52.200 I think he's shaping the battlefield.
00:14:53.780 I think he's prepping the media.
00:14:55.100 I think Aaron O'Toole believes
00:14:56.920 that if he purges every remaining scrap of conservatives
00:15:00.060 from the conservative party,
00:15:01.420 that he will win the next election.
00:15:05.500 He's very, very wrong on that.
00:15:08.140 But it's pretty incredible to watch him try it.
00:15:11.760 Stay with us for a moment.
00:15:12.860 Well, Donald J. Trump has not been president for some weeks,
00:15:27.680 and yet, strangely, he's being impeached.
00:15:30.380 I didn't know you could even do that
00:15:32.460 to impeach an ex-president.
00:15:34.740 Maybe Barack Obama should be impeached.
00:15:37.120 And heck, why not just ex-presidents?
00:15:39.540 How about ex-people, people who've passed away?
00:15:43.200 Why not impeach the deceased presidents?
00:15:46.640 I can think of one or two who deserve their day in court,
00:15:49.840 even posthumously.
00:15:51.180 All kidding around.
00:15:52.080 It really is happening, and I think it is absurd.
00:15:55.100 Joining me now via Skype from California
00:15:56.920 is our friend Joel Pollack,
00:15:58.880 the senior editor-at-large of brightbright.com.
00:16:02.060 Joel, I have in front of me your latest piece
00:16:03.440 called Nine Takeaways from the Impeachment Trial.
00:16:07.360 But before I jump into that,
00:16:08.440 can you even explain to me,
00:16:10.380 how do you impeach a president
00:16:11.900 that's not president anymore?
00:16:14.740 It's not clear you can.
00:16:16.460 The Senate voted to allow it,
00:16:20.540 and that's because it's not a matter of law
00:16:22.760 that they voted to allow it.
00:16:23.680 They can't change the Constitution,
00:16:25.860 but they can make procedural rulings
00:16:27.700 when they sit as an impeachment court.
00:16:29.140 So a majority of senators, 56,
00:16:32.160 decided they did have that power.
00:16:34.060 This has happened before,
00:16:35.320 where a majority of senators decided it,
00:16:37.240 but there were so many who still believe
00:16:39.840 that this was unconstitutional
00:16:41.040 that they acquitted in the past,
00:16:42.480 and it looks like that's what's going to happen here.
00:16:44.440 Regardless of the arguments,
00:16:45.620 there are 44 senators who don't think
00:16:47.300 the Senate should be hearing this case at all,
00:16:49.600 and that means Democrats are about 11 votes short,
00:16:53.280 right from the outset,
00:16:54.460 of where they would need to be
00:16:55.480 to convict Donald Trump of incitement.
00:16:59.160 But I have to tell you,
00:17:01.760 after watching the defense team
00:17:04.420 put on their first day of arguments
00:17:07.160 about the substance,
00:17:08.360 there's nothing left of the Democrats' case against Trump.
00:17:11.940 I was amazed.
00:17:13.600 I was proud.
00:17:15.480 I felt proud as an American,
00:17:17.180 not just as someone who supports Trump,
00:17:18.540 but I was proud as an American
00:17:19.760 of the defense that the Trump team put up
00:17:22.180 because not only did they show
00:17:24.360 the hypocrisy of the Democrats
00:17:25.740 who have used similar language to Trump
00:17:28.420 and who have questioned election results before
00:17:31.740 and who have tried to overturn elections before,
00:17:37.740 not only did they do that
00:17:39.240 with very effective video montages,
00:17:41.480 but they also provided a stirring defense
00:17:44.940 of the First Amendment,
00:17:46.120 the freedom of speech,
00:17:47.500 of political speech in particular,
00:17:49.200 and it was the antidote to cancel culture.
00:17:52.220 I felt like it wasn't just Trump they were defending.
00:17:54.360 They were defending every American
00:17:57.120 and really every Canadian
00:17:58.800 because I know the same issues arise in Canada.
00:18:02.240 They were showing how political speech
00:18:05.900 has always been protected
00:18:07.760 and deserves to be protected,
00:18:09.020 even objectionable speech.
00:18:10.360 And then they showed montages of Democrats
00:18:11.820 saying objectionable, violent things.
00:18:14.340 And they came back and said,
00:18:15.700 you didn't do anything wrong,
00:18:17.600 but if you did do something wrong,
00:18:20.260 you're guilty like Trump,
00:18:21.680 according to your standard.
00:18:23.500 I have to tell you,
00:18:24.860 it's the kind of speech you're going to watch
00:18:26.740 if you haven't seen it.
00:18:27.560 It needs to be replayed over and over again.
00:18:30.000 It needs to be shown in law schools
00:18:31.620 so that we don't turn out these left-wing robots
00:18:34.780 who think their real job as lawyers
00:18:36.600 is not to defend the Constitution,
00:18:38.360 but to suppress the views of people
00:18:39.920 with whom they disagree.
00:18:41.220 It was just incredible.
00:18:42.620 There's nothing left of the House Democrats' case
00:18:44.740 against Trump, nothing.
00:18:46.320 Wow.
00:18:46.840 Well, that's quite a categorical statement.
00:18:49.160 I have not been watching the impeachment,
00:18:51.940 partly because I feel it's so moot
00:18:53.580 and I feel it's yesterday's news.
00:18:56.500 It's not news, it's old.
00:18:57.740 It feels like a stunt for collateral purposes.
00:19:01.480 It feels like a positioning thing
00:19:04.540 where some Republicans are positioning themselves
00:19:07.200 as anti-Trump or post-Trump Republicans.
00:19:11.620 And I feel like it's got nothing to do
00:19:14.020 with the actual impeachment of an ex-president,
00:19:17.840 but everything else.
00:19:19.720 But let me say what's really on my mind.
00:19:22.820 You say this ought to be shown in law schools
00:19:24.740 and I hope you're right.
00:19:26.860 But how many people are actually watching it?
00:19:29.080 I mean, I saw Jim Acosta, the CNN reporter
00:19:32.120 who was obsessed by Trump for four years,
00:19:33.960 as we all were, I guess,
00:19:35.520 saying, our photographer spotted Donald Trump golfing.
00:19:39.320 And my first thought was, boy, you sure miss him.
00:19:43.760 He's an ex-president.
00:19:45.040 Golfing is sort of the thing to do,
00:19:46.900 especially he owns golf courses.
00:19:49.320 He loves golfing.
00:19:50.060 He lives in Florida.
00:19:51.120 And I thought, boy, they miss him.
00:19:52.880 Is anyone even watching this?
00:19:56.260 Do networks even have the ratings?
00:19:58.180 I think they miss Trump so badly,
00:19:59.860 they want to prop up his presidency after the fact,
00:20:04.080 just have something to talk about.
00:20:05.120 Well, you're right.
00:20:07.660 People aren't really watching it.
00:20:09.500 There is a lack of interest among Democrats
00:20:14.340 because they know that they hate Trump,
00:20:18.800 so it's not showing them anything new.
00:20:20.800 There's a lack of interest among Republicans
00:20:22.260 because they feel the whole thing is a show trial
00:20:24.360 that is designed to humiliate them
00:20:26.760 and punish the opposition.
00:20:28.620 And Trump's not president anymore,
00:20:30.120 so it's not consequential in any way
00:20:32.400 except for the future of his political career
00:20:35.540 and the disenfranchisement of people
00:20:37.520 who might want to vote for him.
00:20:39.420 But the opening argument,
00:20:43.340 the two hours of what the Trump defense team put on,
00:20:47.280 is required viewing.
00:20:48.780 And it's not just required viewing for Republicans.
00:20:52.460 You have to watch what they do
00:20:54.320 and how they defend the First Amendment and free speech.
00:20:56.380 We've never seen anything like it,
00:20:57.980 not since the Scopes Monkey trial, to be honest.
00:21:01.560 Have we ever seen a defense of First Amendment rights
00:21:04.640 as we've just seen?
00:21:05.780 It's that important.
00:21:06.720 It's an historically important argument.
00:21:08.880 Well, I'm blown away.
00:21:09.660 The fact that you're emphasizing that
00:21:10.900 tells me that we should find it in full on YouTube
00:21:14.240 and put a link to it,
00:21:16.100 and I'll ask our producers and editors to do that.
00:21:19.760 You've convinced me.
00:21:20.820 I did not want to waste a moment's time
00:21:23.040 because the whole thing felt like play acting.
00:21:25.120 Ignore the House impeachment manager's presentation.
00:21:28.240 It's not worth it.
00:21:28.900 It's just painful and awful.
00:21:32.180 Watch the first two hours of this House impeachment,
00:21:35.960 excuse me, of the Trump defense lawyers.
00:21:37.620 It's unbelievable.
00:21:38.560 Wow, I'm very glad to hear it.
00:21:39.780 Now, we've caught you in the middle of the hearings right now,
00:21:42.080 so I want to be very careful with our time.
00:21:44.180 I know out of the corner of your eye,
00:21:45.300 you're watching for when they come back from a break.
00:21:47.720 Now, you mentioned that 56 senators have voted to proceed,
00:21:51.500 but they would need, is it correct, 67 to actually convict the president.
00:21:58.880 Is my math correct?
00:22:00.060 I don't know my U.S. Constitution well.
00:22:02.180 That's correct.
00:22:02.860 You need two-thirds vote to convict the president.
00:22:05.180 In this case, convicting would mean,
00:22:07.940 because he's already out of office,
00:22:09.060 would mean that you have to apply the rest of the penalty.
00:22:12.780 I think they have some sort of procedural vote on it afterwards,
00:22:15.340 but basically it would mean barring Trump from running for any public office
00:22:18.320 of any kind, not just president.
00:22:20.160 He would be barred from any public office in future.
00:22:23.780 And, you know, that's why many people feel this is an attack on the opposition,
00:22:30.440 because it's not on a current office holder.
00:22:33.080 It's an attack on a future potential candidate for office.
00:22:37.140 You know, Iran rules people out from running for president.
00:22:40.360 We don't want to become Iran.
00:22:41.720 Now, if he had done something impeachable, if he were really guilty,
00:22:45.620 maybe that might be an appropriate remedy,
00:22:48.480 but it's not even clear that we can do that.
00:22:50.280 You know, the Constitution says impeachment is for current office holders
00:22:53.540 and results in their removal from office and their inability to run in the future.
00:22:59.620 But they say and, not or.
00:23:01.220 It's not a sort of an alternative penalty.
00:23:03.260 You have to be removed while you're in office, and then you can't run again.
00:23:07.360 The Democrats view it differently now.
00:23:08.560 They think you can just do removal separately from from barring people from from running.
00:23:14.340 Anyway, it's a mess constitutionally, but it's an attempt by the Democrats basically
00:23:19.500 to punish Trump, punish Trump supporters and to demolish the legitimacy of the opposition.
00:23:25.520 Instead, they were demolished today.
00:23:27.120 The Democrats were finally, finally.
00:23:29.640 I mean, I can't tell you how excited I am, actually, to have seen this.
00:23:32.080 The Democrats were finally forced in front of the whole nation to confront their own words
00:23:38.320 supporting violent riots.
00:23:42.460 And they had to sit there through it.
00:23:45.180 And they had to.
00:23:45.740 I felt heard as an American.
00:23:47.240 And I felt like the millions of Americans who had to deal with riots and boarded up stores
00:23:52.920 and intimidation and cancel culture finally got one back.
00:23:57.560 We finally somebody heard us today.
00:23:59.800 Well, people who impose this regime on us are forced to listen to what they said.
00:24:04.720 And they were told explicitly by Trump's defense lawyers.
00:24:07.060 You would all be guilty by your own standard.
00:24:10.280 Well, I've never seen you so effusive about a speech before.
00:24:13.140 So you've convinced me to watch it.
00:24:15.000 I have one last question, then I'll let you go, because I don't want to make you a minute
00:24:18.360 late for watching the rest of it.
00:24:21.700 I know that there are some wobbly Republicans, some never-Trump Republicans, like Mitt Romney
00:24:27.340 in the Senate.
00:24:28.080 But there's also some Democrats, like I think of Joe Manchin in, I think he's in West Virginia,
00:24:34.680 who I would call conservative, even though he's a Democrat.
00:24:38.640 Sometimes the squad and the radical elements of the Democrats get so far ahead of things
00:24:44.180 that the moderates in their party say, whoa, you're going to get us hurt.
00:24:48.260 Is this one of those things where you might even see some Democrats from, you know, who
00:24:53.720 want to be reasonable, who are maybe up for election in two years, say, yeah, I'm not going
00:24:58.120 to go along with this because it's just not who my state is.
00:25:02.320 Like, for them to succeed.
00:25:05.100 Go ahead.
00:25:05.300 I doubt it.
00:25:05.920 I think Democrats will all vote to convict the president, just like they did last time.
00:25:11.960 Okay.
00:25:12.900 And I think they'll do it again.
00:25:14.260 The question is whether some of those Republicans who were wavering, the five or six, whether
00:25:21.060 they will come back and vote to acquit Trump.
00:25:23.780 I think after today, some of them might.
00:25:26.360 Joel, I'm going to let you go, because I don't want you to miss a minute.
00:25:28.680 And I'm going to go and dig up the...
00:25:30.300 You've got to watch.
00:25:32.480 If nothing else, Ezra, if nothing else, you have to play the part where Doug Shane, one
00:25:39.440 of Trump's lawyers, debunks the Charlottesville fine people hoax in front of the entire world.
00:25:45.340 For the first time, the Democrats had to sit there and watch Trump say that he condemned
00:25:50.460 the neo-Nazis.
00:25:51.200 They played the whole relevant part of the video.
00:25:54.180 And it was glorious because those of us who've been fighting against this hoax have been waiting
00:25:58.480 for something like that for years.
00:26:00.540 Plus, he made another point, which is that the House impeachment managers had selectively
00:26:05.100 edited the video.
00:26:05.960 They had manipulated the evidence.
00:26:07.740 And that in a normal court, if a lawyer manipulates evidence, they can be subject to disciplinary
00:26:11.900 sanctions.
00:26:12.980 He really put them in their place.
00:26:14.840 You've got to watch that.
00:26:15.820 I've just tweeted it.
00:26:16.700 I've just done an article on it.
00:26:17.680 You've got to watch it.
00:26:18.280 It takes about two or three minutes.
00:26:19.760 Unbelievable.
00:26:20.880 And if your viewers haven't seen it yet, you've got to go watch it.
00:26:23.200 But you should watch the whole thing because it's really that good.
00:26:25.580 All right.
00:26:25.740 Well, we're going to tack on at this moment right here that three-minute clip you just
00:26:30.880 said.
00:26:31.120 So we're going to go find it and add it on right now for our viewers to watch at least
00:26:35.080 that three-minute highlight.
00:26:36.700 And then we'll have a link for them to watch the two-hour grand presentation.
00:26:40.560 Thank you, Joel, for this.
00:26:42.000 And thanks for the encouraging referral to this whole video, which, frankly, I would
00:26:46.460 never have watched without your encouragement.
00:26:48.360 I'll do so now.
00:26:49.540 Good luck and continue the great journalism.
00:26:52.300 Thank you very much.
00:26:53.320 All right.
00:26:53.740 Thank you.
00:26:54.200 Well, that's Joel Pollack, senior editor at Lodge of Breitbart.com.
00:26:56.600 And now let us show you the clip to which he referred.
00:27:00.660 There's that famous quote, like one of the House managers said,
00:27:03.620 A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its shoes
00:27:09.520 on.
00:27:10.540 Well, this lie traveled around the world a few times, made its way into the Biden campaign
00:27:15.440 talking points, and ended up on the Senate floor.
00:27:18.860 The Charlottesville lie.
00:27:21.380 Very fine people on both sides.
00:27:23.900 Except that isn't all he said.
00:27:25.800 And they knew it then.
00:27:27.260 And they know it now.
00:27:28.680 Watch this.
00:27:29.260 But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
00:27:36.240 You had people in that group.
00:27:37.680 Excuse me.
00:27:38.400 Excuse me.
00:27:39.080 I saw the same pictures as you did.
00:27:41.420 You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of to them a very,
00:27:47.520 very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
00:27:54.020 George Washington was a slave owner.
00:27:56.780 Was George Washington a slave owner?
00:27:59.440 So will George Washington now lose his status?
00:28:02.240 Are we going to take down?
00:28:03.800 Excuse me.
00:28:04.720 Are we going to take down?
00:28:05.940 Are we going to take down statues to George Washington?
00:28:08.780 How about Thomas Jefferson?
00:28:10.500 What do you think of Thomas Jefferson?
00:28:11.960 You like him?
00:28:13.140 Okay, good.
00:28:14.040 Are we going to take down the statue?
00:28:15.520 Because he was a major slave owner.
00:28:17.380 Now we're going to take down his statue.
00:28:19.480 So you know what?
00:28:20.560 It's fine.
00:28:21.420 You're changing history.
00:28:22.660 You're changing culture.
00:28:23.720 And you had people.
00:28:25.020 And I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should
00:28:29.320 be condemned totally.
00:28:30.540 But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?
00:28:37.080 And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
00:28:40.860 Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers.
00:28:45.980 And you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats.
00:28:53.100 You had a lot of bad people in the other group, too.
00:28:56.500 But the press has treated unfairly, sir.
00:28:57.880 I'm sorry.
00:28:58.080 I just don't understand what you were saying.
00:28:58.900 You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?
00:29:01.360 I just don't understand what you were saying.
00:29:02.400 There were people in that rally.
00:29:04.160 And I looked the night before.
00:29:05.880 If you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of
00:29:15.200 Robert E. Lee.
00:29:16.640 I'm sure in that group there were some bad ones.
00:29:18.400 The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists,
00:29:25.860 whatever you want to call them.
00:29:27.300 But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally
00:29:32.380 protest because, I don't know if you know, they had a permit.
00:29:36.200 The other group didn't have a permit.
00:29:38.280 So I only tell you this.
00:29:40.620 There are two sides to a story.
00:29:42.440 I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment.
00:29:49.360 But there are two sides to the country.
00:29:50.980 Does anybody have a final?
00:29:52.320 I have an infrastructure.
00:29:52.940 Does anybody have a...
00:29:53.900 You have an infrastructure.
00:29:54.660 What makes you think...
00:29:55.660 This might be today the first time the news networks played those full remarks in their
00:30:01.560 context.
00:30:02.920 And how many times have you heard that President Trump has never denounced white supremacists?
00:30:07.280 Now you in America know the truth.
00:30:21.620 Hey, welcome back.
00:30:22.540 John writes, if you could go to Walmart, then you can vote in person.
00:30:26.120 Exactly.
00:30:27.220 And if more than that, if someone can work at Walmart or work at the grocery store, a poll
00:30:32.780 worker can work at the polls.
00:30:35.360 Paul writes, one more example that this pandemic has nothing to do with the virus.
00:30:40.480 Oh, exactly right.
00:30:41.340 This is opportunism.
00:30:43.180 Never let a crisis go to waste.
00:30:44.600 That's a motto of the left.
00:30:46.460 Ryan writes, B.C. had an election in October.
00:30:49.580 No issues.
00:30:50.960 Yeah, I guess they just weren't clever enough.
00:30:53.780 They weren't rigging the rules enough.
00:30:55.880 And don't think for a second that Justin Trudeau isn't taking very careful notes about just
00:31:00.080 how easy this is for his liberal counterparts at the provincial level to get away with.
00:31:04.660 That's the show for today.
00:31:06.280 Until Monday, we're going to have a show on Monday on Family Day in parts of Canada.
00:31:09.740 We're going to have a show.
00:31:10.820 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rub World News, to you at home, good night.
00:31:14.660 Keep fighting for free.
00:31:15.520 We're going to have a show.