Rebel News Podcast - April 24, 2019


CBC boss lashes out at taxpayer “nobodies” who complained about Omar Khadr's Easter Sunday TV appearance


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

Words per Minute

162.77956

Word Count

5,893

Sentence Count

490

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Part 2 of the Omar Khadr CBC Love Affair. The entire country is revolted by the CBC and their celebrity welcome of him, and their reaction to his appearance on their show in Quebec. I don t think they ve ever faced that kind of pushback before.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, Rebels, I got a show today about Omar Khadr again.
00:00:03.400 This time, it's not so much about his appearance on the CBC show in Quebec called Tout Le Monde en Palo.
00:00:09.160 It's more the public reaction to the CBC treating him like a celebrity and their reaction to that reaction.
00:00:16.220 I don't think they've ever faced that kind of pushback before.
00:00:19.440 It's quite something.
00:00:20.560 I take you through some.
00:00:21.340 I hope you enjoy it.
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00:00:56.260 All right, without further to do, here is part two of the Omar Khadr CBC Love Affair.
00:01:03.300 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:01:06.500 Tonight, the CBC is stunned to find the entire country is revolted by Omar Khadr and their celebrity welcome of him.
00:01:12.860 It's April 23rd.
00:01:13.960 And this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:15.740 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:21.520 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:25.600 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:36.780 Yesterday, we showed you the depths to which Justin Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster has fallen.
00:01:42.420 They turned Omar Khadr into a glittering celebrity, the terrorist.
00:01:48.560 They treated him like a star.
00:01:50.080 It was sick.
00:01:51.900 Well, the public reaction in the last day or so has been quite something.
00:01:55.140 And the CBC just doesn't know what to do with it.
00:01:57.920 But first, let me remind you a little bit of just how deep Trudeau is into Omar Khadr.
00:02:04.060 As you know, Trudeau gave Khadr a secret $10.5 million payment and an apology.
00:02:09.860 Now, I say it was secret because Trudeau conspired with Khadr's lawyers to make the massive payment to him
00:02:15.000 without it coming to the knowledge of Tabitha Speer or Lane Morris,
00:02:20.220 who were suing Omar Khadr for murdering Tabitha's husband, Christopher Speer,
00:02:25.500 and for blinding Lane in one eye.
00:02:29.360 Now, this was not a court-ordered payment that Canada was compelled to make.
00:02:34.440 This was a voluntary payment made willingly, made happily, made lustily by Trudeau,
00:02:41.660 who has never met a terrorist he didn't like.
00:02:43.580 Trudeau has ties to the cottage we don't even know about.
00:02:46.340 Remember when Joshua Boyle, who took his pregnant wife to Afghanistan to join up with the Taliban,
00:02:51.260 and who, by the way, is now on trial for very serious violent offenses against his wife,
00:02:56.380 offenses that were being investigated by police when Joshua Boyle met, again, secretly, with Trudeau.
00:03:04.040 The only reason we found out about it was his tweet by the Boyles, by Boyle himself.
00:03:09.160 This picture, published boastfully by Joshua Boyle, reveals the secret.
00:03:15.460 You know, he's not as smart as Omar Khadr, who's quite good at keeping secrets,
00:03:18.980 but look at what Boyle says.
00:03:22.000 It's not his first meeting with Justin Trudeau.
00:03:23.760 That was in 06, in Toronto, over other common interests.
00:03:28.060 Ha-ha.
00:03:28.680 That sounds like a reference to the fact that Boyle used to be married
00:03:33.260 to Omar Khadr's disgraceful, horrific, satanic sister, Zainab Khadr, this bestial woman.
00:03:42.760 Why does nobody say you killed three of his friends?
00:03:45.000 Why does everybody say he killed an American soldier?
00:03:47.080 Big deal.
00:03:47.720 Yeah, so Trudeau and the Khadr sound like they go back quite a while.
00:03:54.120 Lots of secrets that we don't know about yet.
00:03:57.000 So we know that about Trudeau, and we know that the country was outraged by his payoff.
00:04:02.140 I think Trudeau was a bit shocked, though, because everyone in his circles,
00:04:05.960 everyone he knows and talks to, love Khadr.
00:04:08.880 Media elites, legal elites, diplomatic elites, he's the perfect symbol, Omar Khadr is, for the left.
00:04:13.620 He lets the left hate America, blame America.
00:04:17.420 He lets the left sympathize with terrorists.
00:04:19.780 He lets them hate our own country, Canada.
00:04:22.600 He plays the victim, even though he is a murderer.
00:04:25.720 Anyways, Trudeau, I think, was a bit surprised by the public reaction.
00:04:30.200 He even said, in what was probably his least credible lie since that old chestnut,
00:04:36.140 I think she experienced it differently than me.
00:04:39.540 Trudeau said that he really didn't want to give Khadr the money.
00:04:42.620 He's just as angry as you are about it, people.
00:04:46.580 Anyway, so that's the background.
00:04:48.500 Trudeau's a Khadr lover, evidently has been for many years, at least a decade, a dozen years.
00:04:53.560 What do you think Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster thinks of Khadr?
00:04:58.020 Well, obviously the same.
00:04:59.600 Look at this star-studded entrance again.
00:05:02.800 Take a look.
00:05:03.420 Omar Khadr.
00:05:04.860 They had music.
00:05:23.260 They had disco lights.
00:05:25.240 They had disco lights in there.
00:05:27.980 The warm handshake.
00:05:29.400 That's a warmer handshake than the CBC would give to most businessmen, than to many elected officials.
00:05:37.620 That's the handshake of admiration and gratitude and excitement.
00:05:42.440 And look at the look on the face of that journalist.
00:05:45.060 Admiration to happiness.
00:05:46.060 I'm talking about the CBC hack.
00:05:47.400 Of course, Khadr just can't believe he's living in such a clown world where the state broadcaster of Canada, a country he tried to destroy, a country whose soldiers he tried to kill with IEDs.
00:05:59.260 This is an Al-Qaeda video of Omar Khadr making IEDs in Afghanistan.
00:06:05.860 He was planting them in Afghanistan, and for all we know, he did, in fact, kill Canadians with those IEDs.
00:06:13.580 He can't believe that the country he tried his best to murder made him a millionaire and is now treating him like a millionaire rock star.
00:06:22.500 Treating him like they treat his friend, Justin Trudeau.
00:06:25.820 I want to show you a bit more from that show.
00:06:28.700 It's called To Le Monde en Parle.
00:06:30.100 It's French CBC.
00:06:31.200 So you understand the public reaction since then.
00:06:33.500 And remember, this aired on Easter Sunday.
00:06:36.760 Shocking in itself.
00:06:37.680 But then remember that Islamic terrorists murdered more than 300 people, Christians, on Easter Sunday in Sri Lanka that very day.
00:06:46.940 And the CBC thought this was a good idea.
00:06:49.680 Yesterday I played you this absurd clip.
00:06:51.980 I think this settlement is not only for me.
00:06:55.840 It's for every Canadian to a degree to ensure that our government does not participate in torturing its citizens.
00:07:04.080 So I know some people might be offended by it, but I think it's for all of us.
00:07:12.980 Yeah, they were nodding along.
00:07:14.500 No, no, no.
00:07:15.240 That was Trudeau giving a special gift to his terrorist friend and his terrorist friend's lawyers.
00:07:19.560 And he hid it from the real victims.
00:07:22.980 He secretly transferred the money so it wouldn't go to the widow, Tabitha Speer, and to Lane Morris.
00:07:27.960 There were other lies that night, none of them challenged by the CBC, of course.
00:07:32.060 Like this one.
00:07:32.600 Well, there's what I remember, or what I thought I remember, and then there's what the evidence was.
00:07:40.080 So I, from the time I regained consciousness, I was told that I had killed an American soldier.
00:07:48.680 And for the eight years, I believed that I must have done it because I was told that I was the only survivor and that I had done it.
00:07:58.660 So I believed in that all the way up to the trial.
00:08:03.320 And then I started hearing alternate scenarios and different testimonies.
00:08:10.460 So I can't tell you exactly what's the true story.
00:08:16.440 That's a lie.
00:08:19.180 In fact, Omar Khadr made a very detailed, multi-page confession, approved, signed on every page by his very zealous lawyers.
00:08:30.400 His confession went into meticulous detail as to what he did on that fateful day that he murdered Christopher Speer,
00:08:36.180 and before then, how he hated Jews and Americans, how he was paid a bounty to kill them,
00:08:42.380 how he was trained in everything from spying to using poison.
00:08:48.000 But the CBC accepted the Al-Qaeda lie that, oh, I didn't do anything.
00:08:52.080 At least I don't remember.
00:08:53.020 And they just told me later and I bought their lies.
00:08:56.160 That he was just a translator there, kids.
00:09:00.580 I don't think my dad knew the extent of what I was doing.
00:09:03.880 That was not the first time I was sent, me or my siblings were sent to translate.
00:09:11.420 Yeah, just an interpreter.
00:09:13.100 As you can see in this video I just showed you, he's translating.
00:09:18.220 He's translating his hatred for infidels into making IEDs, improvised explosive devices here.
00:09:24.680 That's his translation.
00:09:26.720 He said he was just a youngster doing what adults told him to do, but that's not true either.
00:09:30.320 Before the U.S. attacked the little fort that Cotter was holed up in,
00:09:34.340 they called out on loudspeakers through translators for any women and children to leave the bunker before the Americans attacked it.
00:09:41.020 And the women and children did leave, but not Cotter.
00:09:45.620 He was just a few weeks shy of his 16th birthday, and he wanted to murder an American.
00:09:50.500 And in fact, when he was captured, the first thing he said, looking up at the Americans, he swore at them,
00:09:56.120 and then he said, kill me now so he could go be a martyr and get his 72 virgins.
00:10:01.180 And when he was in Guantanamo Bay, he told guards that murdering Sergeant Spear was the greatest day of his life.
00:10:08.320 What's the greatest day of your life?
00:10:09.580 Was it when you graduated from school?
00:10:11.000 Was it when you got married?
00:10:12.320 Was it when you had your first child?
00:10:13.660 For Omer Cotter, the greatest day of his life was when he murdered an American.
00:10:21.100 But now he tells the CBC, no, no, no, no, no.
00:10:23.620 I didn't do that.
00:10:25.100 It's just some false memory that was put in my head.
00:10:28.140 I didn't do it.
00:10:29.140 And he actually suffered.
00:10:30.720 And he suffered for our sins, he said on Easter Sunday.
00:10:34.120 And he took the money on behalf of all Canadians.
00:10:36.440 That's why he took it.
00:10:37.660 And the CBC loved it.
00:10:40.540 More than loved it.
00:10:41.740 Look at this guy.
00:10:43.600 This can only be described with the word erotic.
00:10:48.540 I've been listening to you since the beginning.
00:10:50.580 And how can you be so mentally strong?
00:10:54.700 Because, like, you seem so zen after everything that happened to you.
00:10:59.100 You seem so accepting of life.
00:11:01.360 I'm super positive.
00:11:02.360 But I know I wouldn't be where you are right now.
00:11:05.840 And how do you do it?
00:11:07.720 That's Woody Belfort, who's a wheelchair athlete.
00:11:11.980 Someone who's actually overcome something and being a role model for good.
00:11:16.000 He actually seems like a good guy.
00:11:17.480 I'm not going to come down on him too hard.
00:11:19.340 He's just a normal guy who by chance was stuck on a variety show the same day as a terrorist was.
00:11:26.620 Everyone was treating the terrorist like a hero in that room.
00:11:29.120 And Belfort actually had the last comment of the day.
00:11:31.620 All the smart people were, all the informed people, all the powerful people were gushing over Qatar.
00:11:37.760 So I think he was just copying them, just articulating what they were showing by their deference, by their cheering, by their applause.
00:11:44.840 Hey, Omar Khadr, what's it like to be so awesome?
00:11:48.240 Can I be more like you?
00:11:49.620 Well, I showed you my tweets about this yesterday.
00:11:54.840 I have to say, it started a firestorm.
00:11:57.980 And I don't think the CBC was used to criticism like that.
00:12:01.660 I mean, like Trudeau giving Qatar 10.5 million bucks.
00:12:04.440 I think they were surprised that not everyone has a crush on a war criminal and a murderer.
00:12:10.200 My first tweet about their gross welcome for the murder, where I said, imagine clapping for a murderer.
00:12:15.200 They clap for him.
00:12:15.860 They play music.
00:12:16.500 That tweet, look at this, this is Twitter statistics, has been seen nearly 650,000 times it's been read.
00:12:27.300 And the video on it, 200,000 times.
00:12:31.660 I imagine that that's pretty much as many people as actually watched the actual TV show, the actual interview on the CBC.
00:12:40.940 As many people read my criticism of it.
00:12:42.820 That's pretty cool.
00:12:44.480 And that was just me.
00:12:45.220 And thousands of other people were talking about how gross this was on the CBC.
00:12:49.200 They were overwhelmed.
00:12:50.340 But look at how the CBC's boss of that TV show responded again and again.
00:12:55.680 You are nobody.
00:12:56.720 You're nobody.
00:12:58.440 I can't answer.
00:12:59.160 You're nobody.
00:12:59.680 No face.
00:13:00.260 No name.
00:13:00.480 I'm not answering you.
00:13:01.480 You're nobody.
00:13:03.300 To countless critics.
00:13:04.560 Now, he blocked me altogether.
00:13:05.980 But to so many others, he calls them nobodies.
00:13:09.880 Nothings.
00:13:10.480 Non-people.
00:13:12.180 Nothing but a tirade of insults.
00:13:14.040 He's a government journalist at the state broadcaster talking this way to taxpayers.
00:13:18.520 Like I say, he greeted the terrorist like he was meeting a head of state.
00:13:23.660 Someone of great honor.
00:13:25.940 But mere citizens who pay for the CBC and thus for his own salary.
00:13:29.160 They're nothings.
00:13:29.940 They're nobodies.
00:13:30.800 Know your place.
00:13:31.780 The CBC is so gross.
00:13:35.420 But wow, was the public mad.
00:13:36.900 And it actually became U.S. news, too, with so many prominent American pundits linking to the issue.
00:13:43.100 And I'd say it was a bit of an international incident, you might say.
00:13:47.660 In fact, that's what the big newspaper in Montreal said.
00:13:52.280 In international, that's my terrible French accent.
00:13:57.140 That means an international shame.
00:13:59.740 But if you read the story, and I won't read it for you, you can guess what it says.
00:14:04.420 It's a total love-in for Omer Cotter.
00:14:06.300 Total love-in for the CBC.
00:14:08.120 And a hatred for any bigots who don't see Cotter that way.
00:14:11.960 The press is actually saying, their headline there, they're saying that the criticism of Omer Cotter and the treatment of Omer Cotter, that's the international disgrace.
00:14:21.380 I'm serious.
00:14:21.900 That's what they said.
00:14:24.220 Hey there, Quebec, I love you.
00:14:25.700 I really do.
00:14:26.460 No, I do.
00:14:27.100 I do.
00:14:27.720 How can you not love Quebec?
00:14:28.660 Quebec, it's an amazing place.
00:14:31.660 But remember just a week ago, this senior Muslim activist in Quebec threatened to burn down Montreal's ancient cathedral.
00:14:40.280 Remember that?
00:14:41.780 There are terrorist plots all the time in that province.
00:14:45.620 We just talked about the other day, the murderer of Nathan Cirillo.
00:14:48.800 He was a Quebecer.
00:14:50.340 The Villarail plots, Quebecers.
00:14:52.520 There's a huge Muslim population in Quebec that came from French-speaking North Africa.
00:14:56.460 Many of them are extremists.
00:14:58.380 Some are violent.
00:14:59.400 So yeah.
00:15:01.080 You like to virtue signal in Quebec.
00:15:03.520 I get it.
00:15:04.060 You're with the CBC.
00:15:05.080 I get it.
00:15:06.020 You pervert convicted murderers to the taxpayers who pay your bills.
00:15:08.960 I get it.
00:15:09.460 I know.
00:15:11.040 It's so gross.
00:15:12.120 But I don't want these CBCers to die because of it.
00:15:18.140 I don't want them to be killed.
00:15:21.140 But when you turn devils into angels, when you turn murderers into victims, when you hate citizens but love Al-Qaeda, as surely as night follows day, death will come to you.
00:15:31.780 Now, I don't want that for the CBC.
00:15:34.880 I don't want that for Quebec.
00:15:35.900 I hope it doesn't happen.
00:15:37.380 But they played with death on Sunday night.
00:15:40.960 They bought death himself a cup of tea.
00:15:43.580 They greeted death.
00:15:44.900 They sat down with death himself.
00:15:48.620 Don't be surprised if death comes back again with sound, not music this time, but with explosions.
00:15:56.940 Stay with us for more.
00:15:57.980 Welcome back.
00:16:13.260 Well, it has been a week since Alberta's accidental NDP government was reduced to an opposition party.
00:16:21.080 Granted, one of the largest oppositions Alberta has had in memory.
00:16:24.420 Normally, that place operates rather like a one-party state.
00:16:28.420 Jason Kenney, the new premier who will be sworn in in about a week, says that he will make rekindling the oil patch and building pipelines his obsession.
00:16:39.360 That's the word he used, and I think people are glad to hear it.
00:16:42.580 Or at least Albertans are.
00:16:43.960 But what about the rest of the country?
00:16:45.860 Within hours of Kenney's victory, the Quebec legislature, which they somewhat presumptuously called their National Assembly, passed a motion unanimously rejecting oil sands oil.
00:17:01.200 Well, it wasn't just the parties of the hard left.
00:17:03.660 It was the alleged conservative party, the governing party, the CAC, the Coalition Avenir Quebec, led by Francois Legault.
00:17:10.640 And now you hear voices including those of, well, for example, this guy, Jamie Carroll, former director of the Federal Liberal Party, saying Justin Trudeau shouldn't just block any pipelines.
00:17:23.760 He should block them as a rebuke to Alberta to punish Alberta voting for Kenney and canceling the carbon tax.
00:17:30.200 The website itself is owned by Bruce Cameron, the father of Justin Trudeau's director of communications.
00:17:37.080 So this is the kind of talk they actually have in those circles.
00:17:41.420 Joining us now to talk about what all this means is our friend, Lorne Gunter, senior columnist with the Edmondson Sun.
00:17:47.180 Lorne, great to see you again.
00:17:48.960 Good to see you.
00:17:50.280 Am I overreacting to that column by Jamie Carroll?
00:17:53.920 I think it's just a liberal getting his two minutes of hate out on Alberta.
00:17:58.720 But he he calls Albertans the usual racist, bigot, homophobe.
00:18:03.180 Like he basically has one final go at Kenny in the style that the liberals were all campaigned.
00:18:08.660 Didn't work in the campaign.
00:18:09.920 But he he's he poses as giving advice to Justin Trudeau.
00:18:14.340 And he's telling Trudeau to to basically write off Alberta and use it as judo to to hate Alberta.
00:18:21.940 And you're probably going to lose the handful of seats there.
00:18:25.160 But hate it to the delight of B.C. and Quebec to to officialize and normalize the policy of hate the oil patch, hate the oil sands, hate Alberta and triangulate that way to win.
00:18:38.240 That's the that's the prescription on this official liberal page.
00:18:41.340 Yeah. And I and I don't and I don't dismiss that easily or or even well.
00:18:50.940 This could easily be what they're thinking of.
00:18:53.000 You have to remember, as I'm sure you do, in the 1980 campaign, this is the one after the very short lived Joe Clark government.
00:19:00.880 And Keith Davey, who was the longtime national campaign director, made a senator so that he could work full time on liberal reelections.
00:19:10.860 His motto inside the war room, the liberal war room at the time was screw the West.
00:19:17.480 We'll take the rest. Yeah.
00:19:19.100 And I can easily see that happening now.
00:19:22.020 They they don't think they have any chance at all of holding on to three of the four seats that they won in Alberta in 2015.
00:19:30.140 And they're not very confident they have much of a chance on the fourth one, which is Edmonton Center, held by a guy named Randy Boissoneau, who, if if you were watching really carefully at the Justice Committee during the SNC-Lavalin investigations, was in charge of killing the questioning into SNC-Lavalin.
00:19:49.360 So if Edmonton voters have been paying attention, he's out, too.
00:19:53.500 So they don't think they have many chances of winning any seats in Alberta.
00:19:58.640 And even if they did, the top number they would get would be four.
00:20:02.800 By contrast, they have 18 in B.C. and they have over 40 in Quebec.
00:20:08.400 And they need to hold on to all of those if they have any hope at all of winning, especially with the damage done by SNC-Lavalin in that ring around Toronto.
00:20:17.820 I mean, this all starts to sound very esoteric and and sort of like playing Tetris.
00:20:22.560 But, you know, they've lost much of that ring around Toronto, at least temporarily.
00:20:27.980 So they have to hold Quebec.
00:20:29.940 They have to hold B.C.
00:20:31.340 And one of the ways they could do that easily would be to kill Trans Mountain.
00:20:37.720 And as you will recall, because I've said it many, many times on your show, I one of the reasons I was convinced they bought Trans Mountain, the federal government bought Trans Mountain back.
00:20:48.620 Not quite a year ago now was so that they could kill it if they wanted to.
00:20:54.100 So they could hold off on getting it built until after the federal election, at the very least.
00:21:00.200 And if they needed to, they could kill it entirely.
00:21:03.840 And and so I still think it's all very plausible scenario.
00:21:07.040 Mm hmm. Very interesting.
00:21:09.340 I I it you're you mentioned SNC-Lavalin and that there's there's so many aspects to it.
00:21:16.740 But even putting aside the corruption aspect and and the actual interference with criminal prosecution, what it's done is it's taken the bloom off the roses, finally scraped the Teflon off Trudeau.
00:21:28.780 And it's taken away his running on sizzle because all the dreaminess, it's the feeling is gone.
00:21:35.120 The romance is gone.
00:21:36.420 And his feminism.
00:21:39.020 I mean, he's just loses women candidates every week now.
00:21:42.300 Like so there's not a lot of there there after you strip away the superstructure.
00:21:48.600 You you you tossed off your accountant husband because he was dull and a little controlling in favor of the pool boy.
00:21:56.000 And now you wake up and find the pool boys going through your purse.
00:21:59.400 And that's basically what's happened.
00:22:01.760 Well, and here's my point about that is they can't run on.
00:22:05.400 I'm fresh.
00:22:06.320 It's 2015 gender equity like they can't run on that.
00:22:10.340 And although they love to bash Stephen Harper, I don't even think that's connecting anymore.
00:22:15.240 But there's two things I've heard from the liberals since February when the SNC-Lavalin bombshells started exploding.
00:22:23.460 One of them was they've gone so hard on climate change, global warming, carbon tax.
00:22:28.840 They've just let Catherine McKenna loose, Trudeau himself.
00:22:32.240 So they've gone so nuts on that.
00:22:34.820 And the other is they've been trying out you're a Nazi.
00:22:38.740 You're a Nazi.
00:22:39.700 There's Nazis everywhere.
00:22:40.680 Nazi, Nazi, Nazi.
00:22:41.340 And both of those elements are in this op-ed by Jamie Carroll calling Albertans, thugs, Nazis, right-wing fascists and saying we have to punish them because they're climate criminals.
00:22:54.940 I have to say, I don't know what else these guys are going to run on, Lorne, because they can't run on the economy.
00:23:01.820 It's starting to falter.
00:23:02.640 They can't run on foreign affairs.
00:23:04.240 That's a disaster.
00:23:05.200 They can't run on harmony with the provinces.
00:23:07.400 I think they're going to run on those two hateful things we see in that article, call their enemies racist and push the green agenda.
00:23:15.720 Sorry, I interrupted you.
00:23:16.440 Go ahead.
00:23:17.220 No, no, no.
00:23:17.640 I think that's absolutely right.
00:23:18.760 And I think that's because both of those appeal to younger voters who don't have as much connection with economic decision making as middle-aged and older voters do.
00:23:32.460 And that might impassion those younger voters to come out in greater numbers and vote liberal.
00:23:40.260 You know, as well as I do, better probably than I do, that the instant you say something that isn't politically correct 100%, you get lambasted for being a racist.
00:23:53.460 Well, that's all because on social media, the majority of people who drive that agenda are under 30.
00:24:00.500 And so Trudeau needs the under 30s to come out.
00:24:03.560 They are also the people who are most passionate about climate change because they are the first full generation to have had nothing but climate change propaganda in school for 12 years and then in university after that.
00:24:17.480 And so, sure, I can easily see those two being the pillars of the Liberals' re-election bid and cancelling Trans Mountain would be it.
00:24:26.440 And so you notice that in the last few days, Justin Trudeau announced that the decision on whether or not to re-approve Trans Mountain, which was cancelled, the construction permits for which were cancelled last year by the federal court in August,
00:24:41.700 the decision now that they've had the National Energy Board say, yes, it's still OK environmentally, and they're in the middle of consultations with the indigenous group.
00:24:52.180 The decision was supposed to be done by the end of May.
00:24:54.960 It's now not going to be done until late in June.
00:24:57.700 And I can easily see them coming out and saying, you know, we're very concerned about the southern resident killer whale population that will be affected by this.
00:25:08.800 And we've heard from a lot of indigenous groups that this will disrupt their traditional way of life.
00:25:15.760 And so, you know, as much as we'd like to get this built, we simply can't see any way to do it.
00:25:22.500 And I can easily see that as a launch for them into the fall federal election.
00:25:28.340 Yeah.
00:25:28.820 Well, and that's the thing is, I mean, I never believed for one second that Justin Trudeau was for any pipeline.
00:25:36.660 The only pipeline he pretended to support was the Keystone XL pipeline because he thought that it was already dead because Obama and Clinton had killed it and Clinton would win again and it would be dead, dead, dead.
00:25:48.760 He did not expect Trump to come back and revive it.
00:25:51.220 So that was the only pipeline he publicly mused he might support.
00:25:54.460 He was against Energy East.
00:25:56.020 He killed Northern Gateway.
00:25:57.880 He's against Transplant.
00:25:58.940 I never believed for a second he had Alberta's interests in mind ever.
00:26:03.000 I never believed it about Rachel Notley either.
00:26:05.140 I think it took a lot of effort for people to pretend to believe it or to force themselves to believe it.
00:26:12.480 But that kind of raw demonization, like you say, screw the West, we'll take the rest.
00:26:18.780 That's the opposite of sunny ways.
00:26:20.620 Do you think he's going to do it?
00:26:21.780 And more importantly, do you think the media political establishment will embrace him as enthusiastically being nasty as they did when he was being nice?
00:26:32.060 Yeah, I do, unfortunately.
00:26:34.700 I think that the same outlets that have fawned all over him for his sunny ways are going to chomp big time on the bone that he's offered, the two bones he's offering now, the climate change and right-wing extremism or white nationalist extremism.
00:26:54.940 Because they live in that world.
00:26:57.800 I mean, you had on your side, I think it went up yesterday, the city TV news panel in Edmonton on the night that Kenny was elected, being absolutely astonished that he'd won.
00:27:12.120 Because every panelist was someone who didn't know anyone voting UCP.
00:27:19.180 They were all people who were aghast by the UCP stance on gay-straight alliances.
00:27:25.740 They were aghast on the economic side of it, the environmental side of it.
00:27:29.760 And the only people they ever talked to were people who were equally aghast.
00:27:33.820 And then when Kenny won a huge majority, a very resounding majority, everywhere but Edmonton is completely blue with a few little tiny microscopic pixels of orange, that just flabbergasted them.
00:27:50.420 They'd never seen that coming because they don't understand Alberta.
00:27:54.680 They don't know anybody beyond their own little circles.
00:27:57.300 And I think that you're going to see that sort of strategy or that sort of reaction from the mainstream media based in Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa in the upcoming election.
00:28:10.500 Sure, they love the sunny ways.
00:28:12.420 Yes, they were quite happy to embrace Trudeau and his positive nature.
00:28:16.700 But they also see these boogeymen that the federal government claims to see, that the federal liberals claim to see.
00:28:23.300 And so they'll be just as happy to be nasty as they were to be sunny ways.
00:28:28.420 Yeah.
00:28:28.780 Well, my last question, and thank you so much for being so generous with your time, Lorne.
00:28:33.440 Jason Kenney is an interesting character, and I've known him for more than 20 years.
00:28:39.480 He's smart.
00:28:41.080 He's a good debater.
00:28:43.220 He's a quick thinker.
00:28:44.800 And when he wants to, he can be a tough fighter.
00:28:48.260 How do you think he will react?
00:28:52.360 On election night in Alberta, he spoke a lot in French, which sounded like an attempt to offer a fig leaf to Quebec.
00:28:59.360 It was immediately slapped out of his hand.
00:29:01.920 I think he has big dreams of being the grand reconciliator or something.
00:29:07.080 I don't think the other side is going to let that happen.
00:29:09.880 So how does Jason Kenney, who I think harbors ambitions to be prime minister one day, he's bilingual, he has a good national footprint, why not?
00:29:18.880 I think that he wants to remain popular in Ontario and Quebec and other places, but his job now may involve fighting at least Ottawa.
00:29:29.240 How's he going to handle the coming six months?
00:29:31.820 I see it slightly differently.
00:29:34.700 I mean, I agree with all of those things that you said, that those are all things that have played out in his mind at one time or another.
00:29:41.320 But I see another one, too, and that is he has to put out the fig leaf.
00:29:45.240 He has to show that he's tried to be conciliatory because then when he comes down like a ton of bricks on using the Constitution and pushing the federal government really hard, then he can at least say, look, I tried the peaceful way.
00:30:00.460 I tried to be Mr. Nice Guy, but no one wanted to listen.
00:30:04.520 And so now we have to play tough.
00:30:06.180 And it's a tough position to be in because as Alberta premier, you know what has to be done in order to better the Alberta economy, which also will better the national economy.
00:30:18.380 But we are now finding with the B.C. government, the Quebec government and certainly with the federal government, people who live in Fantasy Island and cloud cuckoo land and who just think that, well, if we don't have oil, we'll have bug burps and we'll all get rich making apps for alternate energy that we can put onto our smartphones.
00:30:42.580 And no one understands the practical side or the impractical side of that.
00:30:47.500 They just magically think there'll be wands waved and we'll all we'll all have great, well-paying jobs in a prosperous economy without any connection to reality.
00:30:58.700 Yeah. You know, I it frustrated me to see that unanimous vote in the Quebec legislature.
00:31:04.140 They've never had such votes against American oil imports, which is actually a huge source of oil in Quebec now by rail.
00:31:12.540 That's what blew up in Lac-Mégantic.
00:31:14.620 I've got nothing against American oil.
00:31:16.260 I just don't understand why Quebec despises Canadian oil but loves American oil by rail that's fracked, by the way.
00:31:23.760 Again, I love fracking, but Quebec says it doesn't.
00:31:26.780 And they love the OPEC oil imports.
00:31:29.180 I just think there's a grave moral injustice here.
00:31:32.920 And for too long.
00:31:33.820 Quebec could.
00:31:34.740 Quebec could probably raise about two billion dollars for its own government coffers if it allowed fracking in Quebec, which it will not do.
00:31:44.580 But it doesn't have any trouble bringing in fracked oil from the United States.
00:31:47.880 I mean, there's just so many incongruities and inconsistencies and hypocrisies in environmental thinking that some days I laugh and other days I wake up and I just want to spit barbed wire.
00:32:01.080 Well, we'll see.
00:32:02.800 It's very interesting days.
00:32:04.340 And we've enjoyed covering the election.
00:32:06.060 And I think in some places we actually made a small difference.
00:32:08.900 We certainly had a lot of fun.
00:32:10.380 Very interesting days ahead.
00:32:11.600 Lauren, I hope we can keep in touch with you as this story evolves.
00:32:13.780 You bet.
00:32:14.300 All right.
00:32:14.740 There you have it.
00:32:15.060 Thanks for your time, my friend.
00:32:16.020 There you go.
00:32:16.380 That's Lauren Gunter, senior columnist for the Edmonton Sun.
00:32:19.500 I think it's about to get very interesting.
00:32:22.020 Stay with us.
00:32:22.680 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:32:23.380 Hey, folks.
00:32:35.020 On my interview with Pamela Geller, Keith writes,
00:32:38.160 It was good to see Pamela Geller again.
00:32:39.500 She and Robert Spencer were two of the best commentators on YouTube, and I think they know more about Islam than many Muslims do.
00:32:46.040 Well, Robert Spencer is a scholar, and he wrote very interesting history about Islam and the jihad, very, very interesting.
00:32:55.100 And Pamela Geller is a fighter.
00:32:56.880 I've talked to Pamela many times, and before 9-11, she says, she was a normal New York gal.
00:33:02.160 I think she liked to party and go to clubs and restaurants and loved her city.
00:33:05.680 That event transformed her into a warrior princess.
00:33:08.740 And I agree with you.
00:33:10.720 On my monologue yesterday about Omar Khadr receiving a hero's welcome, we followed up on it today.
00:33:16.040 I mean, it was on Easter Sunday.
00:33:17.480 Can you imagine?
00:33:18.020 Robert writes, This is a new low for the CBC.
00:33:22.160 Ah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
00:33:23.660 When they hit rock bottom, then they keep on digging.
00:33:26.600 You've seen nothing yet.
00:33:29.040 The election's coming.
00:33:30.060 Watch.
00:33:30.580 The next six months will be the worst six months in history at the CBC.
00:33:34.780 Mark my words.
00:33:37.020 Peter writes, That's the first time I ever heard you use the word satanic.
00:33:43.320 Yeah, you know, I don't reach for that word a lot.
00:33:46.040 Because I'm not trying to say supernatural.
00:33:50.020 I'm not trying to say, you know, I'm not referring to God as a supernatural being or, you know, a devil or a fallen angel.
00:34:00.140 I'm saying, when you invert all of morality, when you turn man's nature inside out and our culture upside down, that is, I think that's Satanism.
00:34:12.700 I think the symbol of the upside down cross, which sometimes is exactly it.
00:34:18.640 Everything's upside down.
00:34:21.320 It's upside down when you greet a war criminal with a strobe light and a sparkle disco ball and music and clapping like that.
00:34:32.920 And when that fellow at the end said, you're so amazing.
00:34:37.080 That, that, they're not, that's Satanic.
00:34:41.100 Yeah.
00:34:41.640 In the, in, even in the secular meaning of that.
00:34:44.600 And I'm sure there's a supernatural or religious or theological meaning of that too.
00:34:49.140 Oh, this is terrible.
00:34:49.840 Kennedy writes, the CBC are a disgrace of an outfit.
00:34:55.560 I really wonder who is running this organization.
00:34:57.860 I would vote for any party that's got defunding the CBC on this platform.
00:35:02.080 Yeah.
00:35:03.300 Don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
00:35:06.020 Stephen Harper, who is probably the most right wing prime minister we'll see in our lifetimes, did not privatize the CBC, let alone shut it down.
00:35:14.560 And if he didn't, in his, what was it, three terms, don't expect the new guy to.
00:35:19.060 If it's Andrew Scheer, he's never even hinted that he would do that if elected.
00:35:22.900 Never even hinted at it.
00:35:25.300 You know what, though?
00:35:26.200 I think not only was that one of Harper's two greatest mistakes, the second was not packing appointments like to the Supreme Court.
00:35:33.080 He just absolutely gave all the courts to the left.
00:35:35.920 But I think not shutting down the CBC was a strategic historical legacy error by Harper.
00:35:42.000 Harper, not only would he have shaped the country, but he would have probably saved himself in an election.
00:35:51.500 I'm not saying Harper would have won a majority, but he probably would have eked out a minority.
00:35:55.180 The CBC came to kill him because he didn't kill them first.
00:35:59.300 I don't actually mean kill.
00:36:00.960 That's an Omer Cotter phrase.
00:36:02.180 I mean, you know, privatize.
00:36:05.060 That's our show, folks.
00:36:06.620 Until tomorrow.
00:36:07.840 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.
00:36:09.980 Keep fighting for freedom.