CBC propaganda： Child actors tell other kids they’re going to die from global warming
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The SNC-Lavalland scandal is spinning even further out of control for Justin Trudeau, and now he s being threatened with a libel suit by Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer. Why would he do that?
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Hello, my rebels. Oh, I got a show for you today and you're going to get a lot of out of it from
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the podcast. But really, I think you guys got to watch the video because I've got I got some vids
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from this new CBC propaganda channel called CBC News Kids. And you've got to see the vids because
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you've got to see these nine year old and 11 year old kids saying these things. So, yeah,
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I think you're going to love the podcast, if I may say so. I think it's a fun one.
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and you help us keep keep the company going here. But you get the video. And I think today's video
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got to see these kids. This is one kid from, I think, Holland or something. And you got to see
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her eyes. You got to see the eyes. All right. I'll stop beating a dead horse. Here is my podcast
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about climate kamikaze kids. Take a look. Tonight, CBC hires child actors to tell other kids
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they're all going to die from global warming. It's April 8th. And this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know? There's 8,500
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customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the government
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about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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The SNC-Lavalland scandal is spinning even further out of control for Justin Trudeau. Now they're just
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shooting pucks into their own net. Yesterday, Andrew Scheer, the conservative leader, revealed
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that he received this letter from Justin Trudeau's lawyer threatening to sue Scheer for his comments
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about Trudeau's corruption. As in a defamation suit. As in to have the truth of the whole matter
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determined in a court of law. That Trudeau doesn't control like he controls parliamentary committees.
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Where Trudeau will have to answer real questions under oath and he won't be able to skip them
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as he often does with question period or give non-answers or give untrue answers.
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Not just that, but Trudeau would have to provide all of his records on the matter.
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Any emails, texts, memos, notes, minutes of meetings. And those of his staff that touch on
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the SNC-Lavalland matter and they could be subpoenaed to testify to his staff. Why would Trudeau do that?
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Well, he wouldn't do that. So why would he threaten to do that? I just don't get it. I don't get it.
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Andrew Scheer had a press conference about it and sent his own letter back by lawyer saying he stands
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by every word he said. And then if Trudeau really does want to sue him, well, he should get on with
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the lawsuit as soon as possible, given the matter is of great public interest. Now what's Trudeau going to
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do? If he goes ahead with the lawsuit, it's just nuts. Do you really think Trudeau knows how to
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answer direct questions under oath, being cross-examined by an experienced lawyer, where
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he can't give just some trite cliche where the judge will say, order the question, Mr. Trudeau.
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I mean, the kind of answer that the CBC accepts is a bit different from the kind that a judge will require.
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Each of these interactions was a conversation among colleagues about how to tackle a challenging
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issue. Each came at a time when my staff and I believed that the former minister of justice and
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attorney general was open to considering other aspects of the public interest. However, I now
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understand that she saw it differently. Yeah, there's no way he's going to sue. So he's got to back down,
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which is Shear noted in his lawyer's letter, can reasonably be taken to mean that he does indeed
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accept that what Shear and the rest of the country believe happened is actually true. If you threaten
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to sue a guy and then don't go ahead, that's what you're saying. So weird to make a threat like that
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and then back down, just really, really bad decision-making over there in the PMO these days.
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Here's Trudeau's director of communications, just furious with how this whole thing, how this whole
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threat was taken by the public. Kate Purchase said, funny how the Conservative Party of Canada
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has had the libel letter outlining their over-the-top language for a week, but chose to
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release it today. It takes a while to figure out how to use your own bad behavior as a media strategy,
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I guess. What? What? What? I don't even get it. So you receive a libel threat from a fancy lawyer.
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So you call your lawyer. You send him a copy of the letter. He considers it. He looks at it. Then he
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calls you up. He consults with you. Maybe he meets with you. He drafts a reply. You have a press
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conference. You do all of that in a week. That's pretty quick. But even if it weren't, what did her
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tweet even mean? Does it mean, how dare the opposition oppose? How dare they try and embarrass
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my boss? How dare they object publicly to a legal threat to be sued by the prime minister? I don't
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even understand it. I don't get it. Other than it must truly, truly be a difficult time in the prime
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minister's office for the first time ever. And they don't know how to handle it. And it looks so good
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on them, doesn't it? So that's a legal threat. And it has backfired huge. It has only ensured that
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the story will continue more and longer. And journalists will be curious when Trudeau doesn't
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sue. And it's just given this thing a little bit more life. And we still don't know what the next
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move is from Jody Wilson-Raybould herself. Here's a story in the Toronto Star about a couple of opinion
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polls in Vancouver, where Wilson-Raybould is from. According to the April 4 to 5 survey, 33% of her
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riding's voters would cast their ballot for her as an independent, trailed by the Liberals' 24% support,
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the NDP's 21%, and Tories' 15%. So that's in Vancouver-Granville, Wilson-Raybould's own riding.
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And look at this. The larger 514-voter sample of the city found that Wilson-Raybould enjoys 68%
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support among Vancouverites, more than double the 28% who side with Trudeau. Wow.
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I absolutely believe that, by the way. It rings true. Here's a tweet by John Nunziata. Remember him?
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He was a liberal who was kicked out of the party a couple decades ago for opposing the GST.
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He's tweeting the front page. You see there, he's tweeting the front page of the newspaper
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when he was turfed, Kretchen expels MP, and then the front page when Wilson-Raybould was turfed.
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I went on to win as an independent in 1997, forcing Jean-Cretchen to eat crow.
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Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott should run as independents and force pseudo-feminist
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I bet there's a lot of that support out there. This lawsuit threat by Trudeau is so, so funny.
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I just can't believe they did it. Funny is the wrong word. Amateur, desperate, ill-considered,
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I'm frankly surprised that Julian Porter, the senior lawyer Trudeau hired to write the letter,
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didn't try harder to convince Trudeau not to do it.
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I mean, just because your client wants you to do something and offers to pay you to do something
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doesn't mean you should do it as a lawyer if you actually care about your client and giving him
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the best advice. When you have so much of the government run through one guy, though,
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and I'm talking about Gerald Butz, the master, the power behind the throne, the de facto government,
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the guy with all the phone numbers, and then he's forced out, you really have decapitated the
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whole regime. Butz is a smart guy, to be sure. But there's no one human being smart enough to run
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everything. No one person has enough hours in the day to run everything. I think the concentration of
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the whole government in Gerald Butz's hands, you know he was intimately involved in everything
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important. He had a veto over everything. He was up to his eyeballs in the NAFTA deal,
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and the China schlamazel, and the carbon tax, and all important appointments. I think that
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Butz is a competent man. I disagree with him on everything, but he's a competent man. He's not
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a genius per se, but he's smart, and he's hardworking. But no one human being can run a
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government of a country of 35 million people with hundreds of projects and moving parts. There are
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200,000 civil servants for a reason. But Butz had to control everything, and he's blown himself up,
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and the whole government is adrift now. And it's so weird and pitiful, and it's so good that it
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happened before the election, not after, don't you think? Anyways, that's the big, big problem for
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Trudeau. So what does Trudeau do? Well, normally when he's in trouble, like after his India fiasco,
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he goes to his safe space, which is high school kids, who are dazzled that a politician would visit
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them. And, you know, he doesn't use big words. That's great. Talks about a lot of cliches. It's
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why he and his family are so closely associated with the Kielberger brothers and their youth
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indoctrination sessions called We Day. Here's Trudeau's mom at the last We Day in Toronto.
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I'm so proud to be part of We as well. Now, We, I love it the most because it is neither a political
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movement nor a religious one. We encompasses all politics, all political parties, all faiths,
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all beliefs, because we feel that together we can change the world. And we know we can.
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What? Jeez. Yeah, normally kids love Trudeau. But that didn't happen last week. Remember when the
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so-called daughters of the vote attended parliament? 338 of them, well, 50 of them stood up and turned
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their backs on Trudeau when he was speaking. That's never happened to Trudeau before. He doesn't know
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what to do. So he's gone even grosser. Look at this story in the state broadcaster. Trudeau brings
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son on Toronto Charm Offensive amid slumping poll numbers. This is them really starting to campaign,
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says University of Windsor professor. So he's taking his 11-year-old boy and using him as a
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campaign prop, as political fodder. Trudeau, Justin Trudeau is hated. Seriously, he's hated. If you look
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at the latest Angus Reid poll, look at this. People who like Trudeau, they like him enough.
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They moderately approve. But the people who dislike Trudeau, they don't just casually dislike
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him. Look at that. 47% of Canadians hate him. Trudeau is using his 11-year-old boy as a sort of
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political human shield. Now, Trudeau's wife Sophie doesn't really show her face in public that much
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anymore. When Melania Trump steps out of the spotlight for a few days, the media goes insane.
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They went on this weird speculative tear that she was divorcing Trump. Yeah, no, she was in the
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hospital, you macabre freaks. Sophie Trudeau isn't seen with Trudeau in months. It's seen without her
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wedding ring. Well, oh, it's not polite to report on family business like that. So Trudeau has gone to
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his safe place, kids. And if other people's kids turn their back on him, he can always parade out
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his own 11-year-old. Well, what have the rest of the Liberals been talking about these past few
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disastrous months without Gerald Butts to guide them? They haven't been talking about foreign affairs,
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not the renegotiated NAFTA that has not been ratified. It's not going well. Not the economy.
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I showed you on Friday how Canada lost thousands of jobs last month while America gained 200,000.
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Liberals don't like to talk about industry or pipelines, not the military where Trudeau is
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trying to scapegoat an admiral and the admirals fighting back and winning. Trudeau's team is not
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talking about China that still holds hostages of ours. Trudeau's team is not really talking about
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anything real that I can think of. I mean, what's the good news politically in Canada? Can you think
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of anything? Even the carbon tax, they've sort of dropped mentioning the carbon tax. They know it's
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a political disaster. So they've all just started talking about global warming, or as they call it
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now that the globe just hasn't actually warmed in two decades, combating climate change, fighting
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climate change. So you see bizarre things like this.
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So really thrilled to be here. A great example of how we can work together to tackle climate change,
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to save money, to make life more affordable, and really practical solutions. I didn't think I would
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be so excited to be talking about replacements of chillers, but it's a great, great opportunity,
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and thank you very much. So that's Catherine McKenna giving your tax dollars to Loblaws.
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The government is investing up to $12 million subject to a funding agreement to help the company
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convert the refrigeration systems in approximately 370 stores across Canada over the next three years.
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Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Investing, they've got a lot of investors.
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The stock market, you can invest in, why is the government investing in Loblaws? We're buying
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370 new fridges for Loblaws? You know they're a big company, right? Have you heard of Loblaws?
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You know they're owned by billionaires, Canada's second richest family, right? The Westons.
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I checked the stock market capitalization for Loblaws today. It is worth more than $25 billion on the
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stock market. They buy fridges all the time. It's sort of their business, selling groceries.
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They can afford to buy their own damn fridges. Why are we buying fridges for a billionaire company?
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Why would we buy fridges for anyone, other than maybe for a bona fide charity? I don't know,
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like maybe for a food bank or something. I can understand the government buying a fridge for a
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food bank. Speaking of food banks, speaking of which, Loblaws is pretty much the opposite of
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a food bank. They actually steal bread from the mouths of the poor. I don't know if you remember
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because the media party doesn't like to talk about it, but Loblaws confessed to engaging in a criminal
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price fixing scheme to jack up the price of bread for more than a decade. Billions of dollars stolen
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from the poor. You're rich. You spend an extra buck for a loaf of bread. It's no skin off your nose.
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That was stealing money from the poor. And Catherine McKenna is giving those bread stealers free money to buy
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bloody fridges because global warming, guys. Well, now I think that's just sad. And I think she knows
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it. I mean, I just can't get this shouty moment out of my mind. This is someone flailing around
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just as bad as Trudeau is, just as desperate. You know what I'm talking about.
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So let's talk about climate change for a second. Who believes it's real?
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We got a report last year that said we have 12 years to take serious climate action. We are all in
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this together. We need to act. So because there was a fire caused by arson in British Columbia last
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summer, I'm going to give $12 million to buy a new fridge for the billionaire Weston family that
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was confessed to stealing bread from the poor. And if you don't like it, you're a climate criminal.
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Yeah. Now, I'm used to that. And the media is pumping out propaganda stories, as you might expect.
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Here's Trudeau tweeting out a panicky story about global warming from the Toronto Star here
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with a terrible picture of a forest fire. Doesn't that look bad? And he says,
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this is why we need climate action now, caps, just in case you didn't know when you needed it.
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And a price on pollution is a key part of that. Our kids and grandkids are counting on us.
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Yeah. Well, that, that, that fire they showed there, it wasn't caused by global warming.
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It was caused by accident when construction workers accidentally caused a fire.
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Construction workers, by the way, they were building wind turbines. I know that. So you won't even
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believe the coincidence that that's what they were building. It doesn't matter what they were
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building. Obviously it was accidental. So yeah, it wasn't, wasn't global warming. It was an industrial
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accident. Now, I don't think any of this weird stuff is clicking. I can't imagine anyone saying,
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yeah, you gave my money to buy fridges to the country's second richest family. Woo. I'm forgetting
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about that Jody Wilson-Raybould stuff. I think the reason Kate Purchase, the communications director,
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is so mad that Andrew Scheer had a press conference is because none of this is working. People aren't
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going back to their normal submissive cult-like following of Justin Trudeau. And most of all,
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the media itself is deeply disillusioned because they realized they've been played for chumps
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better late than never. But let me show you something new, something new and bizarre.
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Speaking of kids, look at this today. This is from CBC today. Many kids in Toronto skipped school for
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yet another school strike for climate. Check out what nine-year-old Serafina Bennett had to say at
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Toronto's first Fridays for Future protest from March 15th. What do you think? Climate change,
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climate strike. So this is from a new propaganda department of the CBC. I've talked to you about
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it before. It's called CBC Kids News. They have adults write political commentary in simple language
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and they have child actors read the lines and it's targeting your children. Their main issues,
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I've been following this site fairly closely, are child sexuality. They're for it. Marijuana
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legalization. They are obsessed with it. And global warming. So they've been in full damage control
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more for Trudeau for a while now. And Serafina Bennett, she's a child actor. She's an actor
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reading lines. That's what she does. She's nine. She's been served up as, well, I don't quite know what.
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She's nine years old. When she's done doing this little video for the CBC, I'm guessing she'll go
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for ice cream if she's been a good girl and then maybe a birthday party and then maybe some drawing
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and homework stuff and then in bed by 830. But the CBC is putting her forward as some moral leader
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and spokesman. Now that obviously could not happen with the cooperation and permission of her parents
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who obviously are using her as a political battering ram. She's nine. Do you think the nine-year-olds go out
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on strike from school on their own? Or like her reading scripts on TV that grown-ups write for her,
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do you know that it's been manipulated by adults, by teachers unions, by the CBC itself, and by her parents
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too. Whoever they are, we're never told. But listen to what she says. Listen to this clip
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that actually is being viewed more than one million times on Twitter. Take a listen.
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A lot of people are like, oh, what about the people in the oil industries and the electronic
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industries and the paper industries? Well, it doesn't really matter what job you have if you're dead,
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so. We're all going to die. We're all going to die. Who told her that? Is that science?
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Well, another CBC kids propaganda show tells you, look at this cult. You say you love your children
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above all else, and yet you're stealing their future in front of their very eyes.
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A 15-year-old in Sweden has missed class every Friday since August to sit outside her country's
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parliament, and she's been calling on others around the world to do the same.
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Adults keep saying we owe it to the young people to give them hope.
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But I don't want your hope. I don't want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic.
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I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act.
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What a little cultish monster. It's like that Stephen King movie, Carrie.
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But I don't blame her. I mean, she's a young girl with thousand-yard stare eyes.
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But do you really think she made any of the decisions in her life to skip school on her own?
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Do you think that happens? To write those bizarre, psychologically trippy comments about fear and
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panic on her own? Do you think she wrote any of that on her own?
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She is actually a victim here. Maybe a perpetrator too, but a victim primarily. I don't know who her
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victimizers are in particular. Her parents, probably. School extremists, teachers unions,
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probably. Politicians, surely. And of course, the CBC is trying to spread that child abuse here.
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Of course, it's child abuse. Children deserve a childhood. You don't tell children of tender years
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that the world is going to end and that you need to panic. That's crazy. That's maybe how
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Catherine McKenna talks, but she's just a politician just doing it to get votes. You don't raise an
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actual child that way. It is fake news, of course. Of course it is, but it's worse. This is deliberately
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using children, child actors, reading lines written by adults to cause panic in your children. Look at
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this insanity. People and animals have died, are dying, and will die because of the climate crisis.
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No more coal! No more oil! Keep your carbon in the soil!
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No more coal! No more oil! Keep your carbon in the soil!
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So, time to panic. Did you see that? You're going to die like dinosaurs. Did you see that?
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People are dying. We have 12 years to stand up to the grown-ups. We have to do something. I want you
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to panic. These kids are 9, 10, 11 years old. Mainly girls, it seems. Who knows? Maybe they're
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more eager to please their manipulative parents and teachers, whereas boys just say, yeah, whatever.
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Can I go outside and kick a ball now? I don't know. Or maybe this is some gender action thing too. Who
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knows? But this is what I do know. These kids are being abused psychologically, including at the
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instruction of Justin Trudeau's state broadcaster. And they're trying hard to recruit your own
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children into the abuse. Stay with us for more.
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One week ago, I received a letter from a lawyer representing Justin Trudeau threatening to sue
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me for my criticisms of his actions in the SNC-Lavalin corruption scandal. Upon receiving
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Mr. Trudeau's letter, I immediately consulted with my legal team. And after careful consideration,
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I was advised that Mr. Trudeau's complaints were without merit.
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I stand by every single criticism I have made of Mr. Trudeau's conduct in regards to the scandal,
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including those Mr. Trudeau's lawyer cites in his letter.
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Well, that is a clip from Andrew Scheer's press conference yesterday, where he surprised a lot
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of people, I think maybe even surprised a lot of liberals, that Justin Trudeau had hired a lawyer
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to try and shut up the leader of the opposition. Is that a normal thing for a Prime Minister?
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What is the Prime Minister to do to file a lawsuit in defamation against the leader of the opposition?
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It sounds unusual to me, especially when the subject matter in question is something
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that is in a genuine public debate that the entire country is gripped by. Joining us now is a lawyer who
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once represented a Prime Minister, namely Stephen Harper. I'm talking about our friend Manny Montenegrino,
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the head of ThinkSharp. And he joins us now via Skype. Hey, Manny, it's great to see you again. Welcome back.
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Nice seeing you, Ezra. Manny, I know that you carefully read
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the demand letter, the libel notice, I think it's styled as, by Julian Porter, who is a fairly
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accomplished defamation lawyer. And I know you've read the reply, which is more succinct,
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from Andrew Scheer's lawyer. What do you take on both documents? Why don't we start with the threat
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letter sent by Julian Porter? Well, I'll start even before that. I can't see how any lawyer would take
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that file on. You have incredible facts. This is a defamation case that is taken on by a Prime
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Minister who has been cited by his own Attorney General as some form of pressure towards obstruction
00:26:33.600
of justice. This is a Prime Minister who has had five Attorney Generals write to the RCMP to
00:26:41.280
investigate for obstruction of justice. You have an ex-Attorney General of Ontario, Michael Bryant,
00:26:48.320
who said it's clear obstruction of justice. You have a Prime Minister who is let go indirectly
00:26:56.560
over a period of time, the Attorney General that was trying to protect him. And if that person came
00:27:02.560
into my office, the last thing I would do is say, let's start a defamation case. You know, particularly,
00:27:09.920
Ezra, when you've gone through all the trouble of keeping people quiet. You've silenced the Attorney
00:27:19.040
General Jody. You silenced Jane Philippot. You silenced the committees. There are two committees
00:27:25.120
that we're looking into. So you're trying to silence everybody, yet you want to commence an action
00:27:31.520
where you can no longer seek any silence. It is absurd. Ezra, you asked me a long time ago,
00:27:38.400
what advice would you give to the Prime Minister? And my advice at that time was, whatever you're
00:27:43.440
thinking of doing, do the opposite. Well, he's not taking my advice. I would have, if he came to my
00:27:49.120
office, I would have said, you are not sending a libel or a libel or defamation letter to the official
00:27:57.360
opposition when so much has happened since in the last five, six months. Right. It's absurd.
00:28:02.720
Well, and that's the thing. Julian Porter is a fairly well-known defamation lawyer. It's really
00:28:08.480
his specialty. I know, for example, I watched him work with McLean's Magazine on some very important
00:28:15.600
defamation. He's sort of famous for that. He's, I think he's been practicing probably 50 years.
00:28:23.200
So surely he knows how this is going to end. If it would go to court, Trudeau would have to give
00:28:30.960
real answers under oath. He couldn't bob and weave like he does in question period. He'd have to give
00:28:36.880
his records unredacted. He couldn't just unilaterally deny them. He would really be putting himself
00:28:43.840
through a colonoscopy, to use a medical term. Where was Julian Porter to say, whoa, boss,
00:28:50.240
I know you're mad, but we're not going to proceed. Well, that's what I think that's what he should
00:28:55.840
have done. I have done that with the prime minister on one occasion a long time ago. Julian Porter,
00:29:03.840
I believe is 83 years old right now. I do understand that he's got a great reputation in this field.
00:29:11.040
And sometimes lawyers do that. Sometimes it's about the lawyers and not necessarily about the client.
00:29:16.880
Um, I would have instruct, I would have certainly given the, given the evidence and then, and then
00:29:22.480
who comes into my office? I, you know, that's the one thing that I used to do. And I used to sit there.
00:29:27.920
Now I have a prime minister who has been found guilty five times of ethics breaches. I have a prime
00:29:36.720
minister who refused to recuse himself when he gave millions of dollars to a lobbyist. I have a prime
00:29:42.240
minister who accepted a gift from a lobbyist equating to somewhere around one to two hundred
00:29:49.360
thousand dollars these occasions. He's been cited five times for unethical practice. He's been found
00:29:54.720
guilty by the ethics commissioner. I have a prime minister who the ethics commissioner said you are
00:30:01.680
not credible in your assertion that the lobbyist or the Aga Khan is a family friend. When you have a
00:30:12.000
judge as, as, as prime minister Trudeau calls the ethics commissioner, a judge, when a judge says you're
00:30:18.080
not credible, uh, in your claim that the person is a friend and makes that as a finding in her report.
00:30:25.760
And you have basically, uh, all lawyers. I mean, you have, you have Warren Kinsella, who's also a lawyer,
00:30:33.920
saying this is obstruction of justice. And he worked in the, in the war room with the liberals. You have
00:30:38.560
basically a lot of attorney generals saying this is obstruction of justice. What are you doing putting the
00:30:45.760
case forward? That's the last thing that he should be doing. You have a McLean's article, uh, that basically calls
00:30:51.520
him an imposter. So I, I, I think this is probably that, well, you can't say the biggest mistakes
00:30:57.280
because he said it's just one of the many mistakes that he's doing. He's got a very, very weak legal
00:31:02.720
team. Um, when, when the attorney general said, I'm protecting you, uh, Mr. Prime Minister, there were
00:31:10.720
lawyers in the PMO's office that failed to protect the prime minister under rule of law. And they are,
00:31:16.960
and in my opinion, these people should step forward and say no. And the problem is, in my opinion,
00:31:23.120
is nobody has ever said no to Justin Trudeau. Well, that's such a key observation, his whole life.
00:31:30.240
I mean, I remember, I don't know if you remember in the 2015 campaign, Justin Trudeau was telling a
00:31:35.360
little family anecdote about, uh, one of his brothers who, uh, marijuana joints were found
00:31:42.320
on him by accident and his dad just picked up the phone and called some friends and made the problem
00:31:47.760
go away. So Justin Trudeau was boasting about how connected his dad was. Now he was trying to say,
00:31:53.920
I don't think anyone should be, you know, uh, uh, criminalized for having a joint, but
00:31:59.040
he accidentally told about how life is growing up as a Trudeau, you know, nothing, nothing,
00:32:05.040
nothing connects. And, and I think he thought he could just pull this one out of the bag too.
00:32:10.000
Yeah, no, I think the problem is he's not listening to great legal advice or he's not
00:32:15.280
getting great legal advice. He had the best lawyer in the world, in the world in Canada,
00:32:20.640
advising him. Jody Wilson-Raybould understood what was happening and tried to protect the prime
00:32:26.720
minister from himself. She actually stood up and said, no, this is not good for you. You should not
00:32:33.680
be interfering, obstructing or doing anything with respect to my decision. And she stood up
00:32:41.040
and what's happened to her. She's gone. She's out of the caucus. So you don't say no to the,
00:32:46.000
to Justin Trudeau and he needs more people around him to say, no, this was an insane. Now I love,
00:32:53.440
I read the letter from, from Andrew Scheer's lawyer. I don't know who this lawyer is.
00:32:58.160
I have never read such a great reply. Uh, just brilliant. Uh, if you can put up as the last
00:33:05.040
paragraph and I, I mean, what a, what a way to, to respond by saying, if you don't bring this case
00:33:12.480
forward, we will deem and assume that every statement made by Andrew Scheer is correct. And
00:33:18.320
you are accepting that. I mean, that is just exact. That is now another test that Trudeau
00:33:24.560
has to, has to jump over. Now he, what does he do? Does he drop the claim? If he drops the claim,
00:33:31.760
he's deemed to admit what was said. If he continues the claim, he's going to be cross-examined by very
00:33:37.360
sharp lawyers. And it will be, it will probably lead to criminal charges. If he gets examined,
00:33:44.000
he's been doing a good job of trying to avoid, uh, and I will say this, they've done a pretty good
00:33:50.960
job of trying to avoid criminal charges, uh, because of their hide and seek. But I tell you,
00:33:57.040
the, they better be very, very careful in this civil claim. Um, you know, they'd be very,
00:34:03.040
very careful that they don't invite that into their world as well. Yeah. Now you said something
00:34:07.440
a few minutes ago, and I just was imagining what it looked like when you said, you know, when someone
00:34:12.720
would come in and ask me for advice. Do you think in this case, Justin Trudeau personally
00:34:18.640
met with Julian Porter and said, I want to. No, no, not at all. Not at all. I mean,
00:34:23.760
and the reason, let me just add one more layer to the question. Then I'd love to hear your answer
00:34:26.880
because I, Gerald Butts was not a lawyer. I don't think, uh, chief of staff, um,
00:34:33.760
Katie Telford's a lawyer. I don't think so. No, no. Um, and, and I, Kate Purchase,
00:34:39.040
communications director. I don't think she's a lawyer. And like you say, Jody Wilson-Raybould
00:34:44.080
was sort of sacked for giving advice. He didn't want to hear. So I'm wondering who around Trudeau
00:34:49.120
would have said, this is a really good idea. Hey, Julian Porter, will you do this for us?
00:34:53.920
Because I, do you think Trudeau himself was actually warned? How do you think this went down?
00:34:59.920
I know this is speculation. I'm just curious. Well, yeah, no, I think the same people that
00:35:04.400
are making the same mistakes as he did with the instruction of justice that spent four months,
00:35:09.600
uh, uh, did the same mistake by calling, uh, uh, Julian Porter and saying, we want to begin that.
00:35:16.320
Now, Julian Porter didn't sit there and say, well, wait a minute. I don't know what he said,
00:35:21.600
but I certainly would have said no. I have said no, uh, to prime minister Harper, uh, on certain
00:35:27.360
occasions. So he, and he takes the answers. I mean, he, he, he's a, he's a very smart man.
00:35:32.720
That's guided by, by good advice. You can't say no, uh, to, uh, uh, Justin Trudeau. I'm surprised
00:35:39.920
that they didn't call. And according to the testimony, their friend quote Bev McLaughlin to
00:35:46.480
give an, to give an opinion. I mean, they don't respect the law. They do not respect, uh, what,
00:35:53.920
what it means or the risks related to it. And it's evident you have a back to back case like,
00:36:00.160
like, like to, to do now as well, there's two tests in adapt. Yeah. And you know,
00:36:04.960
this in, in, in defamation case, the defense could be truth or the defense could be fair comment.
00:36:10.560
I mean, clearly it, you know, to find truth, you'd have to get, uh, the prime minister under
00:36:16.560
cross-examination to get exactly what he said and when he said, and it could be proven to be true.
00:36:21.040
We don't know that, but certainly fair comment when you see all the commentary by, by attorney
00:36:26.480
generals, by lawyers, by the attorney general herself, Jade, uh, Jody, uh, Wilson Rolo.
00:36:32.400
She's already said it. You have, uh, you have everyone that's part of it saying it. So that's
00:36:37.760
where the defense is. And then you go to damages is the next test. I mean, if you, you have to go
00:36:43.680
through the whole case, what can the prime minister get in form of damages when his reputation worldwide is
00:36:50.960
already solid. When you have McLean's calling them an imposter, when you have two senior ministers,
00:36:57.840
the best ministers quit because they don't have trust in them. They're like, like, so why are you
00:37:03.120
beginning the claim? It's certainly not for damages. It's certainly not for, uh, and it's trying to stop
00:37:09.600
them from talking, but that just backfired on them. Yeah. I think so. Now, of course, whatever is said in
00:37:16.800
parliament itself has an immunity to defamation suits, it's called parliamentary privilege,
00:37:22.720
or, uh, you can really say, you could even theoretically call someone a murderer. Now,
00:37:27.920
of course, the speaker of the house is going to weigh in and say, please withdraw that. Yeah,
00:37:32.160
right, right. But defamation suits can't stop a leader of the opposition from raising things in the
00:37:38.880
house. But right. So I don't even know how this could even possibly work. Maybe it was to scare
00:37:47.440
other people like other journalists. But I mean, that's the thing, because everything Andrew Scheer
00:37:53.840
said has been said by columnists in a variety of publications. Absolutely. And the idea of suing,
00:38:00.320
I don't know, it just looks like they're scared. It doesn't look prime in the stereo when you're confident,
00:38:05.120
when you're on the march, you laugh off critics, you say, oh, yeah, you could just shout into the
00:38:09.920
wind, buddy. But when you stop, hire a fancy lawyer and threaten someone, you're all of a sudden
00:38:15.600
feeling a little smaller. That's, that's how I feel about. Well, yeah, there are cases where you,
00:38:21.920
you should and can use a defamation lawsuit. And either for the prime minister or the leader of
00:38:28.320
opposition, I handled three in those circumstances. There are cases and it makes sense. But in this
00:38:36.000
case, when the facts are just overwhelmingly against you, when you have a prime minister who has been
00:38:42.800
found unethical five times, when you have a prime minister who's been found not credible once by a
00:38:48.640
quasi judge, when you have when you have three months of attorney generals and lawyers of both stripes,
00:38:56.080
liberals and conservatives say this is this is obstruction of justice. This is borderline
00:39:02.880
criminal. This meets the test of one section, section 139 one of the criminal code. When you
00:39:08.640
have all that happening, I mean, you certainly don't say, hey, let's test this. I mean, you know,
00:39:15.360
every case that's happened before, and I do recall Prime Minister Harper used it because it was it was a
00:39:21.120
credible time to use it. It was the right time to stop allegations that were untrue. And he was
00:39:27.280
successful in it. And there was times when the prime minister or Mr. Prime Minister Harper was in
00:39:32.080
opposition. But in this case here, you have to be somewhat delusional to think that the facts support
00:39:39.920
a defamation case, particularly when every pretty well, every lawyer, you have a law society, you
00:39:49.280
have the law societies are commenting on this when pretty well everyone in the legal field is not on
00:39:56.960
your side. It's not a smart thing to begin a libel or slander suit. Let me ask you one last question,
00:40:03.600
because, of course, we think about censorship a lot over here. We've been the target of censorship
00:40:11.120
many times, even before the rebel started when I was at the Sun News Network at the Western Standard.
00:40:18.880
And what I've seen, Manny, is that government censors who used to come at you with the human
00:40:25.120
rights complaint or a hate speech complaint or even a defamation complaint, I think a lot of them are
00:40:31.200
moving to behind behind the scenes, talking directly to a Facebook or a YouTube or Twitter
00:40:37.360
and whispering, can you shut this guy down? And I see Facebook and other groups are talking about
00:40:45.280
cracking down on fake news in the run up to the election. And I'm worried, Manny, and I'd like your
00:40:51.440
thought on this. It's obvious that this is backfiring. This is blowing up in Trudeau's face,
00:40:56.880
this legal threat letter. But if Trudeau is able to whisper in the ear of his friend, Kevin Chan,
00:41:03.200
who runs public policy at Facebook, or whoever runs Twitter or YouTube in Canada, and get them to
00:41:09.840
throttle criticisms of him. Remember Trudeau's first remarks when this whole Jody Wilson-Raybould scandal
00:41:16.640
came out, he said it was completely false. So his first answer was it was false. Basically,
00:41:22.640
he was saying it was fake news. If he could have got Facebook, Twitter, YouTube to shut it down,
00:41:28.400
we wouldn't have known about it. And we wouldn't see what he's trying to do ham fistedly through a
00:41:33.680
lawyer. So my question to you, I'm sorry, I'm rambling a bit is, I think this defamation threat
00:41:39.760
is a laugh. And I think most people do. But what's not funny is that there's probably 10 other attempts to
00:41:46.640
squelch criticism of Trudeau that we don't even know about, that will never be put through the
00:41:52.320
rule of law. That'll just be him talking to friends in Silicon Valley. That's what I'm worried about.
00:41:57.040
But I it's hard to have evidence because it's behind the scenes. Well, it's already starting as well.
00:42:02.400
That's a very good point. I trust the courts. I like because when you take a process to the court,
00:42:08.800
as the prime minister tried with this defamation lawsuit, you are going to get incredible scrutiny.
00:42:14.960
You are going to be cross-examined and the truth will come out. And that's why this was a very
00:42:21.200
foolish move by the prime minister to commence a defamation lawsuit, especially when you're on
00:42:26.640
the brink of probably a criminal charge. But with respect to the underhanded, it's already started.
00:42:32.400
You had, and Ezra, it's good of you to point that out. And I think your listeners and your viewers
00:42:37.760
should know what's happening. You had the clerk send the first shot across the bow when he said,
00:42:44.040
you know, there's some, some terrible media out there, some, some, some, you know,
00:42:50.200
he called it some interference. And we are going to look into that to get rid of the, the fake news.
00:42:56.280
Then you had Christopher Freeland just say, well, there's going to be interference into our election.
00:43:01.320
They're setting up the premise to stop legitimate contest of this government, any legitimate,
00:43:10.040
a legitimate rebuttal. So it's already happening. And what, and that's the best way for liberals to do
00:43:16.200
it away from the scrutiny of a court or the objectivity, but through their underhanded channels,
00:43:24.120
you can stop any form of debate, any form of criticism, and you only have your message going
00:43:31.160
forward. And you're right, Ezra. I think it's going to accelerate. We saw two examples right now.
00:43:35.720
We're going to see maybe some legislation, or we're going to see some action. And of course,
00:43:40.200
this is all in the good of Canada, because we want to stop the negative discourse. I mean,
00:43:45.080
I heard on, on CBC, Rosemary Barton say that, that, that this defamation suit is, is,
00:43:53.720
and the response is not in the proper discourse of Canada, which was the leader of opposition's
00:44:00.280
response. Now that's just wrong. We need to have a healthy debate by the opposition,
00:44:05.960
by people on Twitter, by people, by Canadians. We just can't have the government tell us what we
00:44:11.320
need to hear, or what we need to, what's available to be heard. But you're, you're, you're bang on
00:44:16.360
point. And it's very scary. I think the next six months, you're going to see more censorship
00:44:20.680
initiatives than we have in the last 60 years. And I, I'm not exaggerating when I tell you that's my
00:44:27.320
prediction. Manny, great to see you again. Thanks for your time and your smarts. Good to see you again.
00:44:33.320
All right. That's our friend, Manny Montenegreno. He's the CEO of Think Sharp,
00:44:38.440
based in Ottawa. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:44:41.400
Hey, welcome back on my monologue Friday about America creating almost 200,000 new jobs
00:44:56.800
last month while Canada lost almost 10,000 jobs. Bruce writes,
00:45:01.800
what a stark contrast between free market America and Canada. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? And the,
00:45:08.100
the biggest contrast to me is on the energy sector. And maybe that's because I'm an Alberta
00:45:11.860
boy and I wrote those books about oil sands or fracking and I follow it. But you know,
00:45:17.620
we have so much more oil in Canada than America. And they're now a net exporter. How did we let that happen?
00:45:24.980
It's such good jobs. I, did we just, I don't know how we let that happen. That's not even that we're
00:45:30.100
socialist. I think we are to a degree. It's just that we blocked everything through politics and
00:45:35.860
through protests and through regulation and gender analysis and carbon analysis.
00:45:41.780
I don't know. I just, I just feel like they came in, you know, there's an old Jewish proverb,
00:45:47.060
two argue and the third grabs the hat. Yeah. You know, well, two, I want the hat. I want the hat.
00:45:52.820
And the third just reaches in and grabs it. While we're quarreling in Canada, America just grabbed
00:45:57.380
four million barrels a day worth of oil exports. You know how much money that is a year and the jobs?
00:46:02.620
I'm jealous. What can I say? I'm jealous. That should have been us. John writes,
00:46:07.660
so frustrated that we can't prosper from our natural resources because of Trudeau's anti-business,
00:46:12.140
gender analyzed, fake feminist, eco hysteria politics. It's like we are sitting on a million
00:46:16.780
gold bars, but refuse to sell any of it. You are right. And I can't think of another country in the
00:46:21.420
world that would be that way. I just, what country does not unlock the riches at its feet? I can't think
00:46:29.900
of any other place that would do that. And by the way, you know, the Scandinavians and the Brits
00:46:35.660
and all these folks who are so, the North Sea, they pump oil like crazy. I don't know. I just,
00:46:42.540
I can't think of any other country that's so self-destructive.
00:46:47.180
My interview with Bernard the Roughneck Hancock, Liza writes,
00:46:51.660
Bernard Hancock has more intelligence and integrity than the entire NDP government. He will make a very
00:46:56.460
effective politician. Canada needs more like him. I like Bernard and I like how real he is. I like
00:47:02.620
that he's actually worked on a rig. I like that he's not afraid to stand up to the left. And he's
00:47:07.740
sort of got that hipster look to him. He's got the big hair, sort of a signature look. I like him.
00:47:13.180
And I noticed that there's not a single anybody with any ties to oil and gas in the entire NDP
00:47:19.900
government of Alberta. And I think it shows. And I don't think that mathematically Bernard is going
00:47:25.900
to win in his riding. I like the guy and it would be great to have him in his MLA. I just don't think
00:47:30.300
being a member of the Freedom Conservative Party is going to punch through. That's just my prediction.
00:47:34.620
But I'm sure I'm glad he's running and I look forward to seeing what he does next because I hope
00:47:39.820
he continues to speak out. And by the way, I'm quite convinced Jason Kennedy is going to win the Alberta
00:47:44.700
election coming up on the 16th. Some new polls out show it's going to be huge. I think I predicted
00:47:49.660
earlier it was going to be maybe 20 seats for the NDP. There's 87 seats in the province. I think I said
00:47:57.260
20 for the NDP. I'm going to lower that. I'm going to say maybe 17, maybe even less than that. So it's
00:48:03.420
going to be important to have critics keeping the conservatives conservative, don't you think?
00:48:09.740
Margaret writes, I'm noticing too much fluff and fuss coming out of you guys.
00:48:14.300
Last month it was David and this week Kian. The focus is turning away good directed reporting
00:48:19.420
to creating a rebel focused issue altercation. It may not look like this to you, but from our side,
00:48:24.140
it's getting tiresome. Please put more effort into clean, concise reporting. No more self-focusing
00:48:29.020
events in the process, please. And a little more respect when interviewing will go a long way to
00:48:33.660
elevate the rebel to the respect it also deserves. Margaret, I thought about your letter very much
00:48:39.100
because I know it came from a good place. And I know that you are someone who cares about the rebel.
00:48:44.300
So I thank you for being so honest and constructive in your criticism.
00:48:49.420
That said, I'm going to disagree with you, at least in part,
00:48:54.140
because there are some times when a confrontation is necessary. And I think that if you're referring
00:49:00.540
to Kian going toe to toe with that actual real life communist who's running for the NDP in Alberta,
00:49:06.940
Anne McGrath and asking her if she regrets being a communist, I think you've got to have that
00:49:11.500
confrontation. I think so. And her reaction calling 911, yes, it was particular to Kian. And yes,
00:49:19.740
he became part of the story. But don't you think it's an important story to know that after
00:49:24.940
maybe 90 seconds worth of questioning on a public street, she calls police and not just like the
00:49:30.700
non-emergency numbers, she called 911. Don't you think that smoked out real interesting news? It was
00:49:37.100
entertaining too, I grant you that. But it's also real news, I thought. And I'm not sure exactly what
00:49:43.420
you're referring to from David, because he's always got a sense of humor. Look, David, I mean,
00:49:47.820
his nickname gives it away, the Menzoid. He's always had a great sense of humor to him. And so
00:49:52.780
you didn't mention it in your email, what you're talking about. Yeah, sometimes David becomes fun.
00:49:56.460
If you're talking about the altercation a few months ago, where he went on the hotel in Toronto,
00:50:02.220
that's been used as a refugee camp. And the manager came up and pushed him and his cameraman. Again,
00:50:07.660
David didn't stimulate that. The hotel manager didn't. As you may know, we're suing them for assault.
00:50:14.540
So unless there's another David story, I don't mean. So I think, yeah, listen,
00:50:18.700
the rebel is going to be spicier. Look at our name, the rebel. We're going to be a little spicier.
00:50:23.420
And I acknowledge once in a while, maybe we cross the line into too spicy. We go habanero pepper
00:50:28.780
instead of just Tabasco. But I tell you, there's so much vanilla out there occasionally to step into
00:50:35.580
habanero territory. You know, I don't, I'd rather do that than be vanilla all the time. You let me know
00:50:43.820
what you think of that, Margaret. Anyways, um, yeah, these, maybe you're thinking about the
00:50:49.100
lawn signs or Stop Notley lawn signs, but that's just plain fun. All right, folks, until tomorrow,
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on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.