Rebel News Podcast - September 07, 2019


CENSORED: YouTube pulls Rebel video critical of Trudeau, saying it “violates guidelines!”


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

162.68263

Word Count

8,076

Sentence Count

623

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

YouTube deletes a clip from a Rebel Media video, and I ask if this is the beginning of a new war on free speech in Canada, and who's behind it? Plus, a story about why Palestinian refugees in Lebanon want asylum in Canada.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. In today's podcast, I show you some unfortunate news. We have had a video
00:00:05.120 taken down by YouTube that claims it's against community guidelines. Of course, they don't tell
00:00:09.540 us what words in the YouTube video violate it, what guidelines we violate. They don't show us
00:00:14.560 the complaint or tell us who complained. They really don't tell us anything. And I take you
00:00:19.160 through the four-minute clip that they deleted. I take you through their rules, and I ask you the
00:00:24.200 question, is this the sign of more censorship to come? So I hope you'll pay attention to this,
00:00:28.900 because I fear this is the beginning of a new war on free speech in Canada, and I wonder who's
00:00:34.420 behind it. Maybe you have a view on that. By the way, I'd like to invite you to become a premium
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00:00:49.520 relevant to today's story, for example. You get access to Sheila Gunn-Reid's show, David Manzi's
00:00:54.580 show, other premium contents, and you get the satisfaction of knowing that you help pay our
00:00:59.260 bills. Okay, here's today's show about censorship.
00:01:04.040 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:01:07.240 Tonight, YouTube starts to clamp down on the rebel. Is this how they're going to run interference for
00:01:12.120 Trudeau in the election? It's September 6th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.
00:01:15.840 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:21.620 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:25.700 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody
00:01:30.580 right to do so.
00:01:36.580 Something strange and disturbing happened to us this week. We were censored by YouTube in a way
00:01:41.700 we never have been before. You'll remember I did a lengthy monologue earlier in the week about a
00:01:46.880 story in the Jerusalem Post that quoted a Lebanese newspaper that reported a Hamas leader saying
00:01:52.960 that Canada had offered to take 100,000 Palestinian migrants from Lebanon and Syria. It was part of
00:02:00.300 Donald Trump's deal-of-the-century peace plan, but the details of that plan would not be revealed
00:02:06.480 by Trump until after the Israeli elections. Now, my understanding of the idea was that Lebanon wanted
00:02:12.860 these Palestinians out of their country. Obviously, Israel's not going to take them. So the idea was
00:02:19.400 that Canada would take 100,000, and a couple other European countries would take them too. It had the
00:02:25.880 ring of truth to it. That does sound like the kind of deal-making Trump would do, and we know that
00:02:32.000 Trudeau rushed in 50,000 Syrian migrants, not from Syria, mind you. They were already safe in Lebanon,
00:02:39.140 Turkey, and Jordan. So the idea of taking 100,000 more actually sounds exactly like something Trudeau
00:02:45.600 would want to do, along with his Muslim immigration minister, Ahmed Hassan. Now, I did note that an
00:02:51.780 unnamed liberal spin doctor said, nah, that's not true. Okay, that sure sounded plausible.
00:02:58.420 And then I saw this story in the mainstream Canadian media. Palestinian refugees in Lebanon
00:03:05.280 want asylum in Canada. It's in City News. You can see that carefully staged protest sign written in
00:03:12.460 English. I have a right to live in a country that respects my right as a child. He sounds perfect,
00:03:17.800 doesn't he? The moment he lands in Canada, he'll probably have some human rights complaint, and then
00:03:21.240 a $10.5 million payoff from Trudeau. Let me quote a little bit from that story in City.
00:03:25.680 We want to immigrate. We want to go to Canada for a better life. There is no work or money
00:03:31.160 or anything here. I got a stroke and did open-heart surgery. No one helped me, said
00:03:37.060 Hanaya Mohammed, one of the protesters. Oh, good. Let's bring in someone who just had a stroke and
00:03:43.400 needs open-heart surgery. Hey, fella, go straight to the front of our line of our free health care
00:03:48.180 system. So that actually sounds like a pretty well-organized protest, pretty clearly focused on
00:03:54.080 talking to English language foreign media. So as I noted in my monologue, there was that vague denial
00:04:00.300 from some anonymous liberal spin doctor the other day, but then there's a report in a Lebanese
00:04:05.620 newspaper quoting a Muslim leader, and then there's these protests. Yeah, who are you going to believe?
00:04:11.020 So that was my monologue. I think my main point was, it does sound like the kind of deal-making that
00:04:15.820 Trump might try to do, and it does sound like something Trudeau would go along with.
00:04:20.780 And right now, we only have these competing lines of gossip, but it is a legitimate question
00:04:26.080 to ask Trudeau, and one you can bet Trudeau does not want to be asked, at least until after the
00:04:31.900 election. And luckily for him, he never will be asked that question by the media party that's all
00:04:36.980 on his payroll now. So that was that. And as I think you know, every day we put a short video clip
00:04:42.200 from my monologue up on YouTube for free as a sample or a teaser, as they're called in TV,
00:04:48.100 encouraging people to become subscribers to the premium show like you are. Now, we've done this
00:04:52.840 hundreds and hundreds of times. As you know, we've published more than 13,000 free videos
00:04:57.740 on YouTube over the last five years, but this time, YouTube banned it. They blocked it. They took it
00:05:05.960 down, and look what they wrote. They said, we've removed this video because it violates our community
00:05:12.160 guidelines. You'll be able to view this video for seven days from when it was removed. This period
00:05:17.960 allows you to review the content and decide whether you wish to submit an appeal.
00:05:23.580 Well, of course we're going to appeal, and of course we'll surely lose. It's not a legal appeal
00:05:28.020 like in a court. It's pretty funny that they pretend that it is. We don't know who the accuser is who
00:05:33.660 complained. We don't know what the actual complaint was. We don't know what we've allegedly done wrong.
00:05:38.860 We don't know what rule we've allegedly broken. We don't know who the judge of this appeal is.
00:05:43.720 It's really a joke. Now, maybe you saw that the words community guidelines were a clickable link
00:05:49.880 there, and if you click it, you get sent to this page on YouTube called Policies and Safety. And
00:05:57.020 you see right there at the top, it says, when you use YouTube, you join a community of people from all
00:06:03.120 over the world. Every cool new community feature on YouTube involves a certain level of trust.
00:06:07.700 Millions of users respect that trust, and we trust you to be responsible too.
00:06:11.880 Review the guidelines below. Following the guidelines below helps to keep YouTube fun
00:06:16.280 and enjoyable for everyone. Yeah, no, I'm actually not interested in producing editorial commentaries
00:06:24.280 that are fun and enjoyable for everyone. I'm sorry, that's not what we do here. I'm interested
00:06:28.420 in giving my political point of view on current events, including on controversial issues.
00:06:33.520 I criticize people in good faith, people in the public eye. It's legitimate. In this video,
00:06:40.160 I criticized a terrorist named Yasser Arafat. He's dead now. I criticized a terrorist named Omar
00:06:47.280 Khadr. He's rich now. And a politician named Justin Trudeau. I don't really care if they found the video
00:06:53.600 to be fun and enjoyable because it wasn't meant to be fun or enjoyable. You might not like everything
00:06:58.940 you see on YouTube if you think content is inappropriate. I'm reading here from their
00:07:05.280 rules. You might not like everything you see on YouTube if you think content is inappropriate.
00:07:09.540 Use the flagging feature to submit it for review by our YouTube staff. Okay, so what do they define
00:07:15.200 is inappropriate, right? Well, let's click on that link. Nudity or sexual content. Other than the fact
00:07:23.280 I'm enormously attractive, obviously it's not that button. Harmful or dangerous content. Don't post
00:07:31.820 videos that encourage others to do things that might cause them to get badly hurt, especially kids.
00:07:36.440 Videos showing such harmful or dangerous acts may get age-restricted or removed depending on their
00:07:40.460 severity. All right, obviously not that, right? I'm just going through the list here. Violent or
00:07:44.760 graphic content. Obviously not that. You can see a few of the other categories. Spam, copyright,
00:07:51.320 cyberbullying, threats, stalking. Obviously none of that applies. Now they didn't say which rule
00:07:58.480 applies, but if I had to guess, they're trying to shoehorn us into this one. Hateful content. Our
00:08:05.580 products are platforms for free expression, but we don't support content that promotes or condones
00:08:11.160 violence against individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender,
00:08:16.440 age, nationality, veteran status, or gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or whose primary
00:08:23.020 purpose is inciting hatred on the basis of these core characteristics. Well, we do the opposite of
00:08:29.800 promoting and condoning violence. I rail against violence. Primary purpose of inciting hatred based on
00:08:36.660 those characteristics. Obviously that's not our primary purpose. It's not our purpose at all.
00:08:42.280 I think Palestinian Arabs should stay in the beautiful Arab city of Beirut. That's actually
00:08:48.800 the marina in Beirut. These Palestinians have been in Beirut for three generations. They're not actually
00:08:55.260 refugees by any definition. There is no civil war in Lebanon. There hasn't been in decades.
00:09:00.480 The civil war in Syria is pretty much done too, other than a few tiny pockets of exception. There's
00:09:06.180 no promotion of violence or anything like that in our video. It was a political discussion of a Trump
00:09:11.460 proposal and Trudeau's possible willingness to go along with it and be the fall guy here. I've just
00:09:17.340 gone through the warning we've received. I went through the community guidelines. And again, we don't
00:09:22.420 know what we're accused of doing, what word or words are allegedly wrong, who complained, who will hear the
00:09:27.960 appeal as if it's a court. But in light of all of what I just showed you, I want you to watch the
00:09:33.320 entire clip that we uploaded to YouTube that was taken down almost immediately by then. So my monologue
00:09:38.680 was probably 20 minutes and we put four minutes of that on YouTube. Here's the four minute or so clip
00:09:44.680 they removed. And you tell me if we violated any of the rules I just read to you. And doing a deal in
00:09:52.220 the Middle East, I can't think of anything more complicated. Again, less Western in thinking. Remember Israel?
00:09:57.220 Israel had already offered the Palestinians everything. All the land, all the money, all, even weapons.
00:10:03.200 Israel offered to give the Palestinians weapons. Seriously. And Yasser Arafat just rejected him.
00:10:09.460 Because end of the day, he didn't want peace. He wanted to get rid of the Jews.
00:10:14.520 Look at the Gaza Strip. Israel unilaterally just left the Gaza Strip and just gave it back to the
00:10:19.140 Palestinians, who just turned it into an armed base camp to shoot rockets into the rest of Israel.
00:10:24.340 So I'm skeptical of any deal, even by the grand deal maker, Trump himself. But the main point is
00:10:29.140 this. What do Palestinians in Lebanon have to do with anything? How is that an issue at all,
00:10:33.660 let alone an issue for Israel or America or Canada? Why would we, why should we take them in Canada?
00:10:40.180 They're not in jeopardy. They have no ties to Canada. They have no English skills. They have no job
00:10:45.080 skills. They have no cultural skills to fit here. They're Arabs living in Arabia. Why would we have a mass
00:10:50.260 transfer of Palestinians from Lebanon to Canada just as some sort of bargaining chip for someone
00:10:55.700 else's chess game? Why would Canada have anything to do with this at all? I don't even get it. Maybe
00:11:01.320 it went like this. Maybe Lebanon insisted these Palestinians get out and go to Israel. Israel
00:11:08.280 obviously objected. Maybe Trump, the deal maker, said, well, give them to Canada. They'll take anyone.
00:11:13.640 Look at that Trudeau. They'll take anyone. Let's have Trudeau solve our problem here. And so it was a fake
00:11:18.820 problem. But Trump knows Trudeau loves Muslim immigrants. So he had a solution to a fake
00:11:23.720 problem that didn't cost America or Israel a thing. And Trudeau is just the man to do it.
00:11:28.100 Along with his immigration minister, Amin Hassan, who has jacked up immigration to more than one
00:11:32.960 million people over the next three years. This is insane, this report. Now, I don't know if this is
00:11:39.220 true. I believe that the Jerusalem Post actually reported what this Lebanese newspaper said.
00:11:44.100 And I believe that the Lebanese newspaper actually accurately quoted what the Palestinian leader said
00:11:51.640 from Hamas, it sounds like. And that Palestinian leader might have even been accurately quoting
00:11:58.100 some suggestion, some brainstorm, some idea that's bouncing around in diplomatic or political circles.
00:12:03.440 Now, whether that moves from the level of gossip and brainstorming to a plan is quite a different
00:12:08.640 thing. But as you saw in the Jerusalem Post item, Trump is holding off on his peace plan details
00:12:14.120 till after the Israeli elections, which is just two weeks from now, actually. Now, I don't know if
00:12:19.280 this is real. I see that Anthony Fury says the Canadian government has denied it. But I don't know
00:12:26.300 if I trust that denial, to be honest. First of all, we know that Trudeau lies to Canadians. He's a
00:12:30.820 politician, whether it's about SNC-Lavalin or about some Muslim issues. He lied and tricked us
00:12:36.520 about Omar Khadr. He set up the $10.5 million payoff to Khadr in a secret manner, deceiving the public
00:12:42.960 to avoid the family of Khadr's victims suing to get the money. So Trudeau has tricked us for his
00:12:47.960 Muslim extremist friends before, in that case, an actual terrorist. And we're talking about Hamas here
00:12:52.180 now. Now, that Omar Khadr thing was just money, but 100,000 Muslim migrants that Hamas chooses to
00:12:59.040 send here? Well, who knows? I mean, if Donald Trump is holding off on the details till after the
00:13:03.620 Israeli election, maybe he might hold off until after the Canadian election, too. Because if Trump
00:13:08.680 actually wants to dump a problem in Trudeau's lap, he's probably smart enough to wait until Trudeau's
00:13:13.820 back in office before announcing that. Now, I don't know if it's true or not. I'm absolutely sure that
00:13:19.240 Trudeau would approve of the idea if he could. He has an Islamophilic election strategy. He'll literally
00:13:26.020 take anyone. So where was the call to violence there? Where was the cyberbullying against some
00:13:33.660 kid at school? Where was the attack against people based on race or whatever? Well, obviously, there
00:13:38.520 wasn't one. It's just politics. And the censorship of it is political, too. But by whom? Who was the
00:13:45.440 censor? Who was the complainer? Was it Hamas, the terrorist group that was quoted in the original
00:13:51.020 Lebanese story? Probably not. I think they like this story. They're the ones who first talked about
00:13:56.220 it in the Lebanese newspaper. Was the complaint from Trudeau or a liberal censor who doesn't want
00:14:02.500 to look like an idiot and wants to have this story smothered before the election? It's more likely.
00:14:09.260 So I'm censored for talking about a news story that has appeared in a Muslim newspaper in
00:14:13.340 Lebanon, a Jewish newspaper in Jerusalem. It's appeared in a Canadian mainstream network, City
00:14:21.580 News. But I can't talk about it on YouTube? Well, look at this. Look at this. Look, look, look, look,
00:14:27.540 look, look. This is from the official Muslim Brotherhood terrorist website called Iquanweb. Did
00:14:35.540 you know that the Muslim Brotherhood actually has a website? And this is their video page. And if you
00:14:41.840 click on any of these, you'll see they're hosted by YouTube. So a literal terrorist group can use
00:14:51.060 YouTube to promote their terrorism. But I can't talk about a report about an official peace plan. Oh,
00:14:57.520 by the way, all these terrorist groups have various social media accounts. Here's the official English
00:15:03.620 language Twitter page for the Hamas terrorist group. This is real. You don't find it odd? We're a news
00:15:14.080 company. We're talking about the news. We're censored by someone we don't know who. Well, we know it's
00:15:20.340 YouTube. Was it someone at the Liberal Party also? Maybe it was someone in Hamas or maybe just some
00:15:24.840 extremist woke activist working at YouTube itself? We don't know. We know from other staff who work at
00:15:33.740 Google and YouTube that they have internal blacklists in the company. One Google YouTube insider leaked
00:15:40.220 that information to the media, including an official blacklist from Google for one of their products
00:15:45.620 called Google Now. Here's the list of all the blacklisted companies. And ta-da, you can see the
00:15:51.300 rebel is on the blacklist. Now, just last week, actually, just this week, on Tuesday, I asked an
00:16:01.120 executive at Google what it meant to be on this Google Now blacklist. They said, oh, no, no, no, no,
00:16:07.020 don't worry about it. It was just some viewer feedback. Really? That's an internal Google document.
00:16:14.820 You know, we haven't had censorship problems with YouTube lately. I mean, they have throttled
00:16:18.640 traffic and they cut off our ability to sell ads by 90 percent. But at least they've been letting us
00:16:25.780 publish our videos. I fear that the censorship of this very vanilla commentary by me about a peace
00:16:32.500 deal, I fear it's the beginning of a new wave of censorship crackdowns. What do you think?
00:16:38.400 Stay with us for more.
00:16:48.640 We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly without a serious plan for environmental
00:16:59.500 remediation in the first place. So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there
00:17:05.180 should be another another route for a pipeline, because the real alternative is not an alternative
00:17:11.580 route. It's an alternative economy.
00:17:13.600 Just an incredible statement there. He's not interested in route number one, route number
00:17:19.880 five, route number 10. He doesn't want a pipeline on any route. He doesn't want a pipeline. He
00:17:24.560 doesn't want the oil sands. You've seen me play that clip a dozen times before. That's Gerald
00:17:28.900 Butts, best friend, senior advisor, former principal secretary and campaign Rasputin to Justin Trudeau.
00:17:37.200 Gerald Butts, an extremist. There he was in his capacity as president of the World Wildlife
00:17:43.120 Fund campaigning against pipelines and oil sands. Are you surprised at all that he has continued
00:17:49.560 that campaign? Obviously, the work of a true believer in Justin Trudeau's PMO. And so comes
00:17:55.740 news that the Federal Court of Appeal has approved a variety of lawsuits against the Trans Mountain
00:18:03.040 pipeline, a pipeline that Trudeau bought with your taxpayers' dollars off of the Kinder Morgan
00:18:10.560 company that was running it. He bought the existing Trans Mountain pipeline upon which the expansion
00:18:17.000 might one day be built. But my theory was also paying $4.5 billion for the existing pipeline. And
00:18:25.560 everyone says that was an overpayment of about a billion dollars was not because Trudeau wanted to
00:18:30.260 own it. He was paying $4.5 billion to shut up the owner because he knew that if he ran the pipeline,
00:18:37.020 owned the pipeline, well, no one would complain to him because he would be the one. And explaining the
00:18:42.780 reasons that, putting this together, helping figure this out, is our friend Manny Montenegrino,
00:18:48.800 a lawyer and political advisor who now runs a ThinkSharp strategy out of Ottawa, our friend,
00:18:55.640 Manny Montenegrino. Manny, great to see you again.
00:18:58.360 Manny, great to be with you as always, Ezra.
00:19:00.580 Manny, I don't think I connected the dots there. There was a Federal Court of Appeal ruling
00:19:04.320 that allowed a bunch of challenges to go through. But the shocking news, why don't you tell our
00:19:08.820 viewers, what was it that Trudeau and Butts did that is so unusual, so shocking, so radical
00:19:15.640 for a government and owner of a pipeline when facing lawsuits?
00:19:21.100 Ezra, I will. I'll get to that right at the end. What I'd like to do is give a history of what has
00:19:29.260 happened with this Trans Mountain pipeline. And I think it's important because we know now with absolute
00:19:38.160 certainty that we cannot trust what the Prime Minister says. The Prime Minister will say absolutely
00:19:45.720 anything to please a certain segment of Canadians. And we know that he has been found not to be
00:19:55.580 credible by the ethics commissioner. So what I will do is look at the facts and then come to a
00:20:02.680 conclusion, because you can't listen to the rhetoric. And let's start. In May of 2017, there was a BC
00:20:10.840 election. And everyone, of course, was paying attention. And in that election, two parties,
00:20:17.720 the Greens and the NDP, were strongly opposed. And they said they were running on the premise that
00:20:24.440 they will block Trans Mountain Pipeline. Well, if we were paying attention, we'd know, okay,
00:20:29.540 that's their position. Well, they won. The Liberals lost. And the Greens and NDP formed a coalition.
00:20:37.400 So as early as 2017 in May, we knew Trans Mountain Pipeline was going to see some trouble. Now,
00:20:47.660 the Prime Minister at that time could have said if he was seriously concerned about Trans Mountain
00:20:53.900 pipeline, he could have acted, he could have met, he could have done something. Nothing happened for a
00:21:01.180 year. To the point that a year later, King Kinder Morgan, around May, trying to deal with the issue a
00:21:10.640 whole full year without the support of the federal government, found itself frustrated and gave
00:21:17.080 ultimatums. Now, you know, a prime minister with all the powers it has under its constitution could
00:21:24.260 have helped, did nothing. Kinder Morgan was at a peril and said, we are going to leave. What does then
00:21:33.920 Justin Trudeau do? He buys it. He takes $4.5 billion and buys a pipeline under the pretense he's going to
00:21:44.240 build. And you heard the finance minister say, we will have shovels in the ground in August of 2018.
00:21:51.720 Well, that $4.5 billion purchase didn't have a standard condition. And any first year lawyer would
00:22:01.020 put in a condition that it gets the approval to build the pipeline from federal court. That only
00:22:07.480 happened three weeks later, Ezra, three weeks later, the federal court of appeal strikes down the
00:22:14.160 permit after spending $4.5 billion. So that tells me, well, wait a minute, they can't be that inept,
00:22:22.280 their lawyers that didn't understand that this hearing, this decision was going to happen three
00:22:27.020 weeks after doling out $4.5 billion. Well, let's assume they made that mistake and they didn't know.
00:22:34.200 What did Justin Trudeau direct at that decision? This is a federal court of appeal making a decision.
00:22:43.060 Did Justin Trudeau appeal to the Supreme Court? And the caliber of lawyers, the caliber of judges at the
00:22:49.920 Supreme Court of Canada that understand the nation and understand would have been a greater review.
00:22:56.240 they did not appeal. Justin Trudeau spends $4.5 billion to buy a pipeline and doesn't appeal to
00:23:06.840 the Supreme Court of Canada when they have thousands of lawyers sitting at justice that would have been
00:23:13.500 very happy to argue the case. That should tell you something.
00:23:19.040 Well, and here's the thing. When you're the government, you have a duty to defend your interests,
00:23:24.380 your projects, your laws. If you lose, you have a duty to appeal unless there's a very
00:23:29.280 sharp policy reason why you choose not to. But when you are now the owner of a pipeline,
00:23:36.280 surely you have another duty, a fiduciary duty, some sort. I mean, it's the government in general
00:23:42.240 should appeal when it loses a case unless it is just utterly wrong on something and has an
00:23:48.860 about face, which they don't say here. And then when you buy something and you let it wither, you let
00:23:54.880 it waste and you don't lift a finger. That's my point about the only reason they bought it, Manning.
00:24:00.540 My theory is because if it was owned by the private company called Kinder Morgan and if this had been
00:24:06.720 left to die this way, Kinder Morgan would be screaming bloody murder. They're owned by an American company.
00:24:12.640 They would probably be filing a NAFTA complaint of some sort. So if this were a private pipeline that
00:24:18.560 was so obviously mistreated, that private owners would go nuts. But the treatment basically said,
00:24:25.220 here's $4.5 billion. Just shut up, take the money and do not comment on anything we're about to do
00:24:30.860 because it's going to get ugly. So Ezra, you're absolutely right. In August of 2018,
00:24:37.500 after the federal court struck down the permit, the prime minister had three fundamental duties.
00:24:47.020 Number one, he had a legal obligation to appeal to the Supreme Court. He had a constitutional
00:24:53.660 obligation because we are asking, Canadians are asking, what is the rules with respect to
00:25:00.860 trans-provincial pipelines and jurisdiction? Only the Supreme Court of Canada can
00:25:07.480 lay out the rules and say, who champions the cause? Is it the feds? Is it the province?
00:25:12.360 It's a tricky area of law. So he had a constitutional responsibility to bring to the Supreme Court.
00:25:18.900 And then he had a fiduciary responsibility to taxpayers because we spent $4.5 billion.
00:25:24.660 So there are three duties. But Ezra, it goes on. He chooses not to. And he tells the Canadian people,
00:25:31.660 although he says he's in favor of the pipeline, we will go back and do consultations. We'll discuss,
00:25:39.740 we'll go back and listen to what the federal court gave in its decision, and we will cure the problem.
00:25:48.120 Now, that will take another year. Now, a year, as you know, Ezra, on $4.5 billion is about $225
00:25:56.740 million worth of buried, sunken, lost interest costs. Now, you can say, well, all right, all right,
00:26:05.340 well, the prime minister wants to listen to the federal court without appealing to the Supreme
00:26:09.820 Court. So we spent a year, and my humble estimation, nothing was done. We don't know what
00:26:17.880 has happened. But let's assume that the government acted good in faith. Well, one year later,
00:26:23.180 after we have consulted and tried, the government of Canada tried to meet the conditions that were put
00:26:30.220 on by the federal court of appeal a year ago, we now go before the court to say, well, what happened?
00:26:36.760 We go before the federal court of appeal. And as you said at the opening, the decision of the court was,
00:26:43.380 well, we're going to let these interveners give them status. And yes, they have a legitimate complaint,
00:26:49.160 even though the government of Canada spent a year consulting and meeting their obligations.
00:26:55.920 You know what happened, Ezra? The government didn't even send its lawyers and produce a case
00:27:02.380 in rebuttal. I mean, can you imagine the madness that we have a court case, federal court dealing with
00:27:11.240 trans-provincial pipelines, where the government spent $225 million in lost interest costs, spent
00:27:19.040 thousands and millions of dollars consulting, and doesn't go to the court and say, here's what we
00:27:24.820 did? I mean, it's just amazing. It's almost a million dollars a day. It's about $600,000,
00:27:32.100 $700,000 a day, and not even showing up. And what could the judges but think if the government wasn't
00:27:42.360 even there to defend? Then a judge, any normal commonsensical person would say, oh, well,
00:27:48.080 the government's fine. They're just, they want to be tipped over here. They're not even here to make
00:27:53.720 the case. You know, I want to show you, I think you alluded to it, or maybe I was remembering from your
00:27:58.640 Twitter feed how this has been excused by the mainstream media, including the CBC. Look at
00:28:04.600 this incredible headline in the CBC. Why did Ottawa fail to defend its trans-mountain process in court?
00:28:12.640 And then the CBC has the answer, oh, blame politics. Oh, gee whiz. You know, it's just that
00:28:20.000 there's no person to blame. There's no decider. It's not the prime minister. It's just politics,
00:28:26.680 guys. I mean, I've never seen such a pitiful explanation or excusology, but even they know
00:28:33.860 it was a shock, even the fact that they felt they had to have that excusology published
00:28:37.740 shows they know it was a shocking dereliction of duty by Harper. Excuse me, Harper, by Trudeau.
00:28:43.700 Sorry. I'm thinking of only Harper, although this has been going on since the Harper years.
00:28:48.160 Manny, this pipeline was proposed in 2012. It filed with the NEB in 2013. We're coming up on seven years.
00:28:56.380 For this pipeline. And there's no shovel in the ground. Exactly. So so there there's the that's
00:29:02.420 what infuriated me the most is when I read the CBC saying, well, you know, just blame politics.
00:29:08.860 The government spent four point five billion dollars to bury a pipeline, not to do anything,
00:29:14.120 spent two hundred twenty five million dollars, spent a year consulting and doesn't send lawyers in.
00:29:19.260 Well, that's just politics. I mean, we Canadians were put through hell when a senator spent ninety
00:29:27.040 thousand dollars now proven legally of his own expenses. And Canadians were put through hell over
00:29:34.780 a year because there was no excuse at that time. But here we're talking in the billions,
00:29:41.440 in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And they just slough it off as, well, it's just politics.
00:29:46.360 Of course, the prime minister can't defend the pipeline because he might look bad with some
00:29:52.740 environmentalists. Well, the law is a law in this country. And you know what's what's offensive,
00:29:58.360 Ezra, and we have seen it is the diminution of the rule of law under this prime minister.
00:30:05.740 We know what happened with we know what happened with the obstruction of justice and
00:30:12.280 and the report of the ethics commissioner. We know what's happening with China looking at us and
00:30:17.780 saying you have no rule of law because the prime minister was found to direct by a judge.
00:30:23.160 Ethics judge was found to direct a obstruction of justice and fire the attorney general.
00:30:28.600 We see the prime minister. And so the rule of law, I mean, I cannot, Ezra, I'm lost for words to sit
00:30:36.600 there and see one of the biggest projects Canadians ever brought. And we don't send in lawyers after a
00:30:42.340 year of negotiations and just say to the court, here's what we did. Here's how we met your conditions
00:30:48.800 a year ago. We feel we met that burden. And please give us a pipeline and not even make those
00:30:54.780 representations. It is it is it is it is more than the four point five billion. It is a destruction of
00:31:03.080 the rule of law because we expect our government to be protecting us in the courts. And, you know,
00:31:09.060 Ezra, so when I look at the totality of it, I can only come to one conclusion. And the conclusion is
00:31:15.040 there's absolutely no intent of this government to have the Transatlantic pipeline going. And I
00:31:21.900 am absolutely certain, given the facts I gave you over two years, that if the liberal government gets
00:31:29.640 reelected, this pipeline will not even see a shovel for four years and it will be just, you know, as
00:31:36.360 everything else, just just just hidden away. So, yeah. So we've we now have a prime minister that
00:31:44.060 fails his ethical duty to appeal, fails his constitutional duty appeal, fails his his financial
00:31:52.080 fiscal duty to appeal and now fails the whole rudimentary. I mean, I've never been to a court
00:31:59.580 where the other side doesn't appear and let counsel counsel just have the day. It's it is enough. It
00:32:05.620 is an affront to the to the rule of law. Well, and the thing is, and I maybe I've overemphasized this
00:32:11.380 already. If this pipeline were still a privately funded project of Kinder Morgan, they would have
00:32:18.140 raised bloody hell. They would have had their own lawyers there. They would have said to the federal
00:32:22.640 government, you've got to. There would have been someone watching the interests of the pipeline, but
00:32:27.920 they were bought out. They were bought off. Right. And and by the way, I don't blame if someone offered
00:32:32.220 me a billion dollars more than anything I had was worth. I'd take the money and shut up, too. You
00:32:39.200 can't blame Kinder Morgan. But the thing is, without Kinder Morgan, with them paid off, there was no one
00:32:44.500 looking out for it. I'm sort of surprised and disappointed that there wasn't another watchdog
00:32:49.300 that caught this. But let me ask you a question, because I I remember when Omar Khadr was captured by the
00:32:56.080 U.S. And that that happened under the liberal watch that was in the last years of
00:33:02.200 Chrétien and Martin. And then Harper took over sort of halfway through Omar Khadr's tenure in
00:33:09.080 Guantanamo Bay. And I checked, Manny, because I wrote a book about this. I checked and the Canadian Bar
00:33:14.740 Association did not complain about Omar Khadr's detention in Guantanamo Bay until a
00:33:22.080 particular date. And that is when Stephen Harper became prime minister. So when Chrétien and Martin were in
00:33:29.120 office, they didn't care about Omar Khadr. When Harper was in office, they suddenly cared. And let me bring
00:33:36.160 it to my point. I have not heard from the Canadian Bar Association on the ethics of this government, how they
00:33:43.280 sacked Jody Wilson-Raybould, how they tried to undermine the Department of Public Prosecutions,
00:33:51.240 how they have neglected this. Now, maybe I haven't seen it. I did look for the Wilson-Raybould stuff.
00:33:57.440 I think the Canadian Bar Association, which is supposed to be a lawyer's watchdog of sorts,
00:34:02.420 and I certainly haven't seen anything at any law society. I think that the legal profession itself
00:34:07.800 is giving Justin Trudeau a pass on his legal ethical breaches.
00:34:13.280 Right. You wouldn't be wrong to think that. Ezra, you raised Omar Khadr, and I'm going to try in a few
00:34:19.980 minutes to explain how that is consistent to what the prime minister, Justin Trudeau, did with
00:34:27.020 Trans Mountain. Omar Khadr, very simply, was abused, not had his rights read to him, his charter rights
00:34:38.900 under the Liberal government in 2000-2003. But at that time, the Liberal government was acting
00:34:44.980 properly because there was no law saying that a Canadian on foreign soil is entitled to charter
00:34:51.300 protection. That decision was made in 2010 by the Supreme Court and retroactively to 2003 when Omar Khadr
00:35:01.160 was detained. The great legal issue there, in my opinion, is are there damages arising from a decision
00:35:12.180 made from the Supreme Court 2010 to retroactively apply to conduct done by a government, then the Liberal
00:35:20.540 government in 2003, when they were at that time acting within the law? And the second question is,
00:35:28.940 would those damages be anywhere significant? Because Canada or any Canadian, not one Canadian
00:35:38.340 laid his hands on Omar Khadr and it was all done by the Americans. And you know, and I know,
00:35:48.380 the but-for test. And that is the test that the courts apply. And that says, if Canada understood and had
00:35:57.720 that decision of 2010 by the Supreme Court, let's say 1988, that says Canadians abroad are entitled to
00:36:05.760 charter protection and the Canadian government, the Liberal government in 2003 provided the charter
00:36:11.340 rights, would the American government have acted any differently? And the answer is absolutely not.
00:36:17.640 He was in Gitmo. The Americans dealt with him. And so the damages would have been zero. And here's why I
00:36:25.200 bring that to you. It's because, again, the Prime Minister did not allow that case to go to court
00:36:32.960 and didn't allow the rule of law to determine what happens in these rare, rare factual circumstances
00:36:40.960 when a Supreme Court decision was made in 2010, retroactively to 2003, over a Canadian that Canada
00:36:49.900 had no control over in Gitmo by the American government. That would have been a triable issue.
00:36:57.400 And in my opinion, the damages would have been zero. And that's why it did not go to court. And there's
00:37:03.900 that situation again. And I bring it back to Trans Mountain. Why didn't the Prime Minister let he says to
00:37:10.140 Canadians that he was offended and hurt by this decision and upset like every other Canadian? Well,
00:37:16.260 if you were, let's go to court. Let the judge decide. Let there be a full hearing. The decision
00:37:22.180 was made in secret and rule of law didn't apply. So this government under Justin Trudeau has a history
00:37:32.520 of abuse of rule of law with SNC-Lavalin, with the firing of the Attorney General, with the Omar Khadar
00:37:41.100 secret deal, with Trans Mountain not appealing and not sending lawyers in. It is, you know, as much as I care
00:37:48.160 about the 4.5 billion and the 225 million, Ezra, I see that this government uses the courts and the rule of law
00:37:55.260 as, we'll say what CBC says, blame politics. It's just politics.
00:38:01.080 It's just, it's in the air. It's like, you know, who can blame? Who knows why the wind blows? You
00:38:07.060 know, Manny, you and I have talked about ethics and law and fiduciary duties and what a lawyer's
00:38:14.320 duties are. But if you pull the camera back, if you were some global oil and gas or pipeline company,
00:38:20.560 and it's one of the biggest industries in the world. And by the way, there's not a single
00:38:24.560 authoritative forecaster who doesn't see the demand for fossil fuels continuing to grow
00:38:31.560 for the foreseeable future, especially as people in the third world get lifted up by oil and gas
00:38:38.560 in the modern economy. Oil and gas will remain king along with coal. It's a huge industry, Manny,
00:38:46.520 and it's dominated by international players. If you were a big oil, gas pipeline company based in Texas,
00:38:55.600 based in London, based in Germany, you wouldn't dive into the minutiae as you and I have just been doing
00:39:03.060 for 15 minutes. You would just say, oh, Canada, risky. You can't trust anything. Nothing happens.
00:39:10.040 They always find an excuse for not doing something. Let's not put a new mega project in Canada.
00:39:16.140 Let's put it in the States under Trump. Let's put it in Australia. Let's put it in Poland.
00:39:21.560 But let's not put it in Canada. You know, whatever the details are, the headline is,
00:39:27.340 you should not invest in Canada. That's what I think. If I was a foreign investor.
00:39:33.540 Well, Ezra, you got it wrong. It's not risky. It's known. I mean, you're saying risky. Risk
00:39:41.760 means that there's an element of hope and chance that a project goes through. Ezra,
00:39:48.520 the facts are clear. We have Gerald Butts, who is the director of ideology of this government,
00:39:57.820 who resigned in disgrace and is back at it. And the media don't care whose primary purpose in
00:40:05.000 government we saw in Ontario and in Canada is to keep oil in the ground. You saw that clip. So we
00:40:13.180 have and they have maneuvered successfully to kill all pipelines and pretend to keep a pipeline by
00:40:21.360 killing it with buying it and doing nothing. There is no risk. If I were advising and listen,
00:40:30.120 it's not a surprise. They've already left. Yeah. I mean, they've already left Canada. There is no
00:40:36.140 risk in Canada. It is a completely verboten that oil and gas under this government, this federal
00:40:44.120 liberal government will not see the light of day. And that is just a fact. And people are going to move
00:40:52.400 their dollars and they are moving their dollars and they're moving out of Canada.
00:40:57.560 Manny, I want to leave you with one image and I'll email you this whole document because I know
00:41:02.100 you'll find the whole thing interesting. Here is something dated 2008. It's called the Tar Sands
00:41:08.140 Campaign. This is an official document by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund in New York. And you can
00:41:14.320 see on the participants page, the logo page, there's the cover of it. But on the logos page, you can see
00:41:21.920 the World Wildlife Fund. And that is, of course, Gerald Butts' group. So Gerald Butts' group was taking
00:41:28.340 money from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. You can see Greenpeace is on there too. You can see
00:41:34.240 Sapporo Berman's Forest Ethics. But look at the map. The map, and this is 11 years ago, shows all the
00:41:43.080 proposed pipelines. Northern Gateway was one of them. They had the McKenzie Valley Pipeline.
00:41:47.780 They had a kill map. They had a map of targets. And here we are 11 years later, and Gerald Butts is
00:41:54.980 no longer an outsider. Look at that. McKenzie Valley Gateway Pipeline, tanker trade. You can see the map
00:42:00.720 there. Mission accomplished. 11 years later, Manny, they're no longer on the outside protesting.
00:42:09.120 They're on the inside. And in fact, it wasn't just Gerald Butts. Two other organizations there.
00:42:14.440 Marlo Reynolds, who headed up Pembina, is now Catherine McKenna's chief of staff. And there
00:42:19.780 are other organizations. The Sierra Club, their president, works for the liberal government.
00:42:25.180 The people who wrote that attack plan carried out the plan under Gerald Butts and Justin Trudeau.
00:42:31.820 That's why there hasn't been a pipeline built. And that's why there never will be,
00:42:35.840 as long as Trudeau's in office. Last word to you, Manny.
00:42:38.040 Yeah, absolutely right. And, you know, it's not a shock to the outside investment community outside
00:42:45.400 of Canada. They know it clearly as I know it clearly. The problem with Canadians, many of us
00:42:52.720 are good and we want to believe the word of our leader. And so we believe, you know, you know,
00:42:59.380 as I recall that motion that was done a few months ago, where the government of Canada was big news,
00:43:05.860 the government of Canada, the cabinet voted in favor of the Trans Mountain Pipeline.
00:43:13.180 I mean, that was just to get votes. I mean, can you imagine they bought the pipeline for 4.5 billion?
00:43:20.940 Seven months later, they have a cabinet discussion on whether they should approve the pipeline.
00:43:26.560 You approved it with our dollars. So it is just amazing. It is very clear to the world.
00:43:32.640 It is not clear to Canadians. You are not understanding or go through the facts,
00:43:39.860 go through what happened in two years. There will not be a pipeline in Canada, period.
00:43:45.860 I hate to say it. You're right. And we have to hear it because we have to know that's the situation
00:43:53.040 we're in. Manny, as always, it's great to have your legal political analysis. Thank you for being
00:43:57.300 so generous with your time. You're a fan favorite with viewers because you really help us think things
00:44:01.340 through. I appreciate that. Thank you, Ezra. Thank you for having me on your show.
00:44:06.440 You're always welcome, my friend. Have a great weekend.
00:44:09.140 Take care.
00:44:09.660 All right. There's Manny Montanagrino. He's the CEO of ThinkSharp. And he joined us today
00:44:14.560 via Skype from Ottawa. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:44:17.980 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the McKinnon report. Sheldon writes,
00:44:33.280 anywhere the NDP have been, they leave a path of financial disaster. And someone else always has
00:44:38.520 to clean up their mess. That's true. It was absolutely true in Ontario. It's absolutely true
00:44:43.640 in Alberta. It's going to be true in BC when the NDP are done. Interestingly enough, Janice McKinnon
00:44:49.600 and Roy Romano's NDP government in Saskatchewan, they actually ended with a small surplus.
00:44:56.300 Jamie writes, it's not cuts that are needed, it's chops. Entire ministries and a horde of government
00:45:02.400 agencies could disappear overnight and no one would miss them. That's a great point. I mean,
00:45:07.540 if you shut down half the departments in Edmonton, or for that matter, in any province or the federal
00:45:12.940 government, would anyone even notice? On my interview with Sheila Gunn-Reed, Tim writes,
00:45:19.820 I'll bet my bottom dollar those terrorists set those turkeys free. Five miles down the road,
00:45:23.880 you'll find five defenseless turkeys completely unprepared for the wild are now on their own,
00:45:28.120 if they're still alive. That is abandonment. They should be arrested and charged for that.
00:45:32.420 If I was there, I'd be on the lookout for a few stray turkeys.
00:45:36.280 You know, I went through the criminal code this morning, and there's all sorts of specific sections
00:45:40.540 about animal cruelty. There's all, it's not just someone who abuses an animal directly,
00:45:46.580 there's all sorts of animal protection laws in our criminal code. I'm not even talking about
00:45:53.040 other laws like the Entangered Species Act or whatever, not that turkeys are endangered, but
00:45:57.600 there's a lot of laws protecting animals that aren't in the criminal code. There is no way
00:46:02.720 that this home invasion, because remember, Hutterites live on the farm, it's their home.
00:46:06.820 There's no way that this home invasion didn't check at least five boxes. Let's just go through
00:46:12.580 them again. Trespass, obviously. Extortion. When you say, I'm only going to leave if you do A,
00:46:20.660 B, and C, that's extortion. Mischief. That's meddling with someone's property or other ways.
00:46:27.660 And the cruelty. And I don't know what else they did, if they did other damage, if they did,
00:46:32.080 theft. Obviously, the turkeys are valuable. And if they actually did give it to a sanctuary,
00:46:38.560 maybe they had stolen property. I don't know. But there are many, many criminal offenses that
00:46:45.820 immediately come to mind. And there's probably other offenses too, from traffic offenses. I don't
00:46:51.240 know. There's about 20 ways you could throw the books at these people. But as I quoted that one RCMP
00:46:56.920 officer, well, we talked it down and we all had a happy ending. No, no, no. It's not your job.
00:47:00.960 Your job is to uphold the law. Betty writes, this turkey story is a hard one. If the Hutterites
00:47:06.400 won't defend themselves because that's the way they want it, who else can help them? Well,
00:47:11.360 you know, the logo, the motto, excuse me, for the RCMP is maintien le droit. It's French. I think
00:47:19.420 it's almost the same in Latin. It means uphold the law. Uphold the law. That's the RCMP's motto. So
00:47:25.180 that's your answer. Yeah, sometimes it's sort of sick to watch someone. Like, it would be like
00:47:29.440 encountering someone in the street, having their face slapped and slapped and slapped. And you're
00:47:34.500 saying, defend yourself, man. Don't let them hit you. And the guy on the ground said, no, no.
00:47:41.020 It's what the Bible says. Turn the other cheek. So he hit me on my right cheek. I got to turn the
00:47:44.940 left cheek. I'm doing it. All right. If you want to live that way, obviously I'm not going to be able
00:47:52.860 to persuade you otherwise. Like, you're literally enduring your face being slapped. You're not going
00:47:57.620 to find it hard to resist me arguing with you. But as I explained to Sheila, there are certain
00:48:04.480 offenses against a person and other offenses against the queen herself. That's why all criminal
00:48:10.560 prosecutions are styled as the queen versus so-and-so, RV so-and-so. In America, it's the
00:48:14.500 people versus so-and-so because the people have an interest in upholding the law. You can't consent
00:48:21.500 to every sort of crime. Right? That's what I'm talking about. And shame on the RCMP for letting
00:48:27.240 go. And shame on Doug Schweitzer, the left-wing justice minister in Alberta who shouldn't even
00:48:31.780 be in cabinet. All right. I'm mad about that how to write thing. We're not done on that story yet,
00:48:35.480 by the way. I've been talking to Sheila every day about it since we did that story. And I think we're
00:48:38.920 going to go further on this. Well, that's our show for today. May I invite you to watch some of our
00:48:44.660 YouTube videos in addition to this show, including Kian Bexte went to the grand opening of a Chick-fil-A
00:48:50.380 restaurant in Toronto. The only other place in Calgary, in Canada, where I know they had Chick-fil-A
00:48:55.700 before was at the Calgary airport for a while. So it's, it was a magnet for protesters. Kian went
00:49:01.220 there. And I should tell you, he brought us some chicken sandwiches here to the office when he was
00:49:04.720 done. So check that video out elsewhere on our page. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at
00:49:10.700 Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.
00:49:13.880 Well done, that's it.
00:49:16.880 There we go, Alright.
00:49:18.880 Thank you.
00:49:20.200 There you go.
00:49:32.840 Even the explosion are on track of the people who there is.