Rebel News Podcast - March 03, 2021


CHILD ABUSE: Ontario requires young children to quarantine by themselves, with zero contact from parents!


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

170.69133

Word Count

6,324

Sentence Count

480

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Ontario requires young children to quarantine by themselves with zero contact with their own parents. It's called child abuse, and I'll show you what the public health authorities have to say about it, and why it's gross.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Some incredible child abuse discovered in Ontario. Rampant.
00:00:06.640 Every health authority you can shake a stick at has given the same cruel advice.
00:00:12.000 The children sent home from class or child care have to isolate within their own home,
00:00:17.480 solitary confinement at home, even if they don't have any symptoms, like no symptoms.
00:00:23.280 14-day solitary confinement in their own home.
00:00:25.640 So, it's gross. And I'll show you what the public health authorities have to say about it.
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00:01:21.700 Tonight, Ontario requires young children to quarantine by themselves with zero contact with their own parents.
00:01:42.580 It's child abuse.
00:01:43.700 It's March 2nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:46.260 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:52.180 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:56.260 The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:02:06.800 Let me tell you about an interesting story.
00:02:08.800 It started on Twitter with some mums and grandmas.
00:02:11.580 They had received some propaganda from various government public health agencies in Ontario that I think a lot of people see and tune out.
00:02:20.100 Maybe that's just me.
00:02:21.200 It's endless government public service messages.
00:02:24.520 I think they're engineered to be boring.
00:02:27.400 And after a while, it's all just the same droning background noise like an old air conditioner or flying on a plane or a detuned radio.
00:02:36.780 It's just a hum.
00:02:37.720 But these moms and grandmas read it.
00:02:40.400 I suppose that's what moms and grandmas do.
00:02:42.780 And they started to tweet about it to their few dozen followers.
00:02:47.300 The story had been ignored by big shots in the media, CBC, CTV, the Globe and Mail.
00:02:51.720 Those guys are 100% in favor of lockdowns.
00:02:54.180 The harsher, the better.
00:02:55.520 For the little people, not for themselves.
00:02:58.940 These days, the media is in favor of most things that Trudeau wants because they pretty much all work for him in one way or another.
00:03:05.500 But this, or versions of this, is what the moms were tweeting about.
00:03:14.560 What to do if your child is dismissed from school but doesn't have any symptoms.
00:03:21.460 So nothing.
00:03:22.540 Maybe someone else in the class was sick, but your child has no symptoms.
00:03:27.560 Your child is not sick, but your child is being sent home from school healthy.
00:03:32.100 So what should you do?
00:03:35.380 Normal parents or a normal doctor would probably say, oh, just keep an eye on things, but don't be weird about it.
00:03:41.720 The Peel region, which is a large area outside of Toronto, says, and I quote,
00:03:46.580 The child must self-isolate, which means stay in a separate bedroom, eat in a separate room apart from others, use a separate bathroom if possible.
00:03:59.760 If the child must leave their room, and why would they?
00:04:03.220 I mean, they're a child.
00:04:04.320 Stay there for two weeks in your room.
00:04:06.280 They should wear a mask and stay two meters apart from others.
00:04:09.420 Hang on, do you have to do both, a mask and two meters apart?
00:04:15.040 It is strongly recommended to test for COVID-19 on or after the date listed in your letter.
00:04:22.200 I'm serious.
00:04:23.060 They recommend two weeks of solitary confinement in the child's own home.
00:04:27.380 Wear a mask in their own home.
00:04:29.000 Don't get within six feet of anyone in your own home, even if you're wearing a mask.
00:04:32.420 Don't see other family members in your own home, even if no one here has any symptoms at all, including the child.
00:04:40.320 Oh, and that's not all.
00:04:41.200 Look at the next column in this flyer.
00:04:43.480 For other kids in the same address, any other children who live in the same address should stay home from school
00:04:49.860 until the child who is a close contact returns to school.
00:04:52.800 Oh, so the whole family is knocked out of commission.
00:04:56.240 And the last point, should not go out to play with friends or see family who don't live with you.
00:05:02.720 So not only does a child who has no symptoms have to stay at home in quarantine,
00:05:07.980 but all the other kids in the same home who don't have any symptoms and don't even know someone who had symptoms,
00:05:15.000 they have to stay home too, and they can't visit anyone else either.
00:05:19.640 And remember, this is all for a kid sent home with no symptoms.
00:05:23.400 This is madness.
00:05:25.080 Now, as you can see, this is a fancy poster that was obviously planned and laid out and reviewed and edited.
00:05:30.680 It's not just some slapdash comment.
00:05:32.420 It's not just some email written by somebody.
00:05:34.780 These are the official rules published by the official people.
00:05:38.560 And folks follow these rules because people are scared.
00:05:42.100 They're scared of the virus, I think.
00:05:43.600 But I think by now we all know that kids really don't get this virus.
00:05:46.780 And if they get it, they recover.
00:05:48.140 If they even know they had it.
00:05:49.320 And I think people are really scared of the government more than anything.
00:05:54.360 The government is fining people thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.
00:05:58.060 So I think some people are doing terrible things to their own children out of fear,
00:06:02.820 like turning them into prisoners in solitary confinement.
00:06:04.940 One of the few lockdown skeptics in the mainstream media is Anthony Furrier, the Toronto Sun.
00:06:12.200 He wrote about these tweets and this cruel policy.
00:06:16.400 I'll read a bit from his great article in the Toronto Sun, and I salute Anthony for this.
00:06:20.440 Experts call Peel guidelines to place children in solitary quarantine cruel punishment.
00:06:26.700 Drastic measure not supported by science and could have long-lasting psychological effects.
00:06:31.960 Peel Health has issued guidelines to parents instructing them to keep any children who have been sent home
00:06:37.020 because a classmate has tested positive for COVID-19 isolated in a separate room from all other family members for 14 days.
00:06:45.300 You read it.
00:06:45.940 The severe guidelines, which apply even to small children who are dismissed from child care.
00:06:51.080 I didn't even read that part.
00:06:52.440 I read it as if it was school.
00:06:53.700 It included child care.
00:06:55.220 We're talking children of tender years.
00:06:58.700 They're being criticized by experts as harmful and not supported by science.
00:07:02.920 This is cruel punishment for a child, especially for younger children 4 to 10 years old.
00:07:07.660 Dr. Susan Richardson, a microbiologist and infectious disease physician,
00:07:12.260 who is also a professor emerita at University of Toronto,
00:07:15.660 wrote in an email to the Sun.
00:07:18.460 Shutting a child off from their parents and siblings for up to 14 days in this manner
00:07:22.500 could produce significant and long-lasting emotional and psychological effects.
00:07:27.740 Can you imagine having a 4-year-old locked in their room for 2 weeks with no contact?
00:07:32.340 Are you freaking mad?
00:07:35.200 And then Anthony quotes some of the mums and grandmas
00:07:38.560 who had more common sense than 10,000 health bureaucrats.
00:07:41.680 Here's one grandma.
00:07:46.020 My 10-year-old daughter was sent home from school today because one kid in her class tested positive.
00:07:52.220 Public health instructed her mom to keep her in her room with no contact with the rest of the family for 14 days.
00:07:57.820 Sounds like child abuse to me.
00:07:59.520 There's a $5,000 fine for noncompliance.
00:08:03.100 Well, that one grandma did more investigative journalism than anyone at the CBC or the Toronto Star.
00:08:07.600 Anthony Fury wrote about her tweet, wrote about the story.
00:08:10.820 The story went viral and everyone realized how stupid the government is.
00:08:14.760 So Fury actually managed to put a question to the government's public health officials.
00:08:19.240 I'm going to play the whole exchange for you unedited.
00:08:21.640 Take a listen.
00:08:22.640 Anthony Fury, Post Media.
00:08:24.540 Please go ahead.
00:08:26.560 Hi there, Dr. William.
00:08:28.220 Peel Region Health has apologized for telling parents they need to quarantine children
00:08:32.400 who may have been exposed to the virus in isolation from all family members.
00:08:36.700 However, there are still multiple public health units that offer similarly worded guidance
00:08:40.920 for when kids are dismissed from school.
00:08:42.940 And all those public health units, they say they are simply following provincial guidelines.
00:08:46.540 So can you clarify for all those frustrated and, well, outraged parents that we're hearing from,
00:08:51.840 what the province-wide position actually is on this matter?
00:08:55.560 Okay.
00:08:56.020 I'm going to hand that over to Dr. Yaffe to answer that one.
00:08:58.900 And she does a lot of the case contact management issues.
00:09:01.440 Thank you very much.
00:09:04.900 I mean, we know that if somebody may have COVID-19 or they've been a close contact of somebody
00:09:12.120 with COVID-19, we would like them to be isolated for up to 14 days, which is the maximum incubation
00:09:21.640 period, because they may develop the infection and become infectious to others.
00:09:26.220 However, we obviously understand that you can't leave a child alone in a room.
00:09:31.440 for that period of time.
00:09:33.900 And so you have to use basically common sense and say, you know, if your child had had measles
00:09:40.460 or some other infectious disease, how would you handle the situation?
00:09:44.880 And you would make sure that the child, obviously, you're caring for the child,
00:09:48.760 but you use proper infection prevention and control.
00:09:52.300 If possible, you wear a mask, you wash your hands well, you make sure the child is obviously
00:09:58.460 not exposing others in the family as much as possible.
00:10:02.120 Hopefully, one, only one or two people need to care for the child during that period.
00:10:06.460 But you do not leave the child alone in a room for 14 days.
00:10:10.720 So I think perhaps it was just the choice of wording was probably not optimal.
00:10:17.020 But it is important to try to minimize the spread of infection.
00:10:21.620 And there are instructions for that on the Public Health Agency of Canada website, Public Health
00:10:28.420 Ontario, and so on.
00:10:30.080 And if in doubt, you consult your health unit or your health practitioner in terms of how
00:10:37.140 you would deal with it.
00:10:38.040 But use common sense.
00:10:40.280 Try to prevent transmission of infection.
00:10:42.840 But take care of the child.
00:10:44.960 Follow-up?
00:10:45.760 Okay, but you've said many times that the contact tracing reveals that there has hardly
00:10:51.840 been any in-class transmission at all throughout the province, and that is one reason why schools
00:10:56.800 are safe.
00:10:57.720 So why then does a child who was simply in the same room as another child who later tested
00:11:02.240 positive, and therefore, based on what you've been saying, is extremely unlikely to later test
00:11:07.480 positive for the virus, why does that child even need to be kept indoors for 14 days straight
00:11:12.440 and separated from pretty much all other family members except for a caregiver?
00:11:18.080 Well, I mean, it isn't common to have transmission in schools.
00:11:22.160 But unfortunately, as you've heard, we are now dealing with variants of concern, and in
00:11:28.680 some instances in the school setting, and they are at least 40 to 50 percent more transmissible
00:11:34.660 than the usual normal variant of COVID-19.
00:11:39.820 So we need to be extra cautious.
00:11:42.520 This can spread very quickly.
00:11:44.680 And so we want to be extra careful and make sure that we minimize spread.
00:11:50.620 Did you hear that?
00:11:52.120 Well, the choice of the wording was probably not optimal.
00:11:55.780 And come on, guys, just use common sense.
00:11:57.960 You know what we mean.
00:11:59.860 Well, which is it?
00:12:01.560 Follow your stupid rules or follow common sense, because those are two very different things.
00:12:06.780 And by the way, if a cop comes with a $5,000 fine, can I say, hey, copper, can I point them
00:12:15.200 to this embarrassing press conference by some public health bureaucrat?
00:12:18.500 Is that enough to get a mom or a grandma out of a fine just showing a TV clip there?
00:12:24.380 Does that trump the actual law or the health order?
00:12:27.140 Does that actually change anything, that embarrassing admission by some public health drone?
00:12:31.680 Or did it just get the government through an uncomfortable tight spot and the rules remain?
00:12:37.140 Because actually the rules remain.
00:12:38.660 Even on their own terms, though, choice of wording, not optimal.
00:12:42.740 But it's not the wording, it's the meaning of the words.
00:12:45.460 It's not a turn of a phrase.
00:12:46.700 There wasn't one word that was hard to understand.
00:12:49.100 Either children of tender years in child care or schools,
00:12:52.720 either those children with no symptoms have to be quarantined away from the family or not.
00:12:56.740 It's not the use of the words, it's the meaning.
00:12:58.680 Do they mean it or not?
00:13:01.920 It wasn't a mistake.
00:13:04.160 Here's another story from today's Toronto Stun by Brian Passifume
00:13:08.240 that shows the city of Toronto, Canada's largest city, has the same rules.
00:13:13.880 Top Toronto doc, doc's child COVID isolation issue.
00:13:17.080 No clear answer from city's health agency on isolating school-aged children
00:13:20.580 potentially exposed to COVID-19.
00:13:23.100 Okay, so here's the key paragraph in today's story.
00:13:25.100 When asked by the Toronto Sun about Toronto Public Health's stance
00:13:28.120 on isolating asymptomatic and untested children
00:13:31.780 based on a potential COVID exposure at school,
00:13:35.080 Davila, that's the public health tyrant in Toronto,
00:13:37.600 gave no clear answer, even after two other journalists asked
00:13:41.020 she clarify her response.
00:13:43.480 The goal is to try and reduce the spread and transmission
00:13:47.000 from one person to the next, but to do so in a manner
00:13:49.880 that's safe for all those involved, she said.
00:13:52.420 So she just wouldn't answer.
00:13:55.040 We know what the goal is, you fool.
00:13:57.120 We're asking about your methods.
00:14:00.260 Clearly, with young children, they're going to need the support
00:14:03.600 of their parents and caregivers to make sure
00:14:05.980 they've got the necessities of life
00:14:08.000 and that they're properly and well cared for
00:14:10.240 and the manner in which that is done
00:14:12.120 will help to ensure the safety, yes, of the child
00:14:15.280 and all those in the household.
00:14:17.440 So that's still not a no.
00:14:19.120 So there's no change in the policy.
00:14:21.940 They really want children to be put in solitary confinement
00:14:25.160 even in their own homes.
00:14:27.160 And by the way, I say again, no one involved here
00:14:29.280 has tested positive or has any symptoms.
00:14:31.700 Children who have no symptoms, children who are not sick.
00:14:35.980 This is not a matter of a poor choice of words.
00:14:38.720 They all say the same thing.
00:14:40.140 Here's good work by anti-lockdown lawyer Ryan O'Connor.
00:14:43.440 I'm just going to read a series of his tweets.
00:14:45.420 He did some research.
00:14:46.200 Sudbury, public health Sudbury requires children
00:14:50.180 who have one symptom of COVID, i.e. a runny nose,
00:14:53.440 even without a case contact, to remain home from school
00:14:55.900 and the sick child must self-isolate
00:14:58.440 away from other household members.
00:15:00.380 How does an eight-year-old cook dinner alone?
00:15:03.220 Here's another.
00:15:05.400 Lambton County tells parents of child
00:15:08.540 in dismissed cohort last autumn
00:15:10.300 that the child had to, quote,
00:15:12.140 stay in her home room at all times, including meals.
00:15:15.260 It was against best practice
00:15:17.240 for the child to eat meals with their family,
00:15:19.560 even if they were six feet apart.
00:15:21.500 Who's making up these lies?
00:15:22.820 Here's another one from Wellington County,
00:15:24.780 one of the worst counties.
00:15:27.400 Tell children in dismissed cohort
00:15:29.360 to isolate within the home.
00:15:30.920 Your child should follow these guidelines,
00:15:32.660 limit interactions with household members
00:15:34.140 as much as possible.
00:15:35.400 Isolate in a separate room.
00:15:37.600 Here's another one.
00:15:38.620 I mean, it's all over the place.
00:15:39.600 This is York Region, huge municipality outside Toronto.
00:15:42.240 Public Health tells children in dismissed cohort
00:15:44.600 to isolate within the home.
00:15:46.280 Self-isolation for children can be challenging.
00:15:48.780 Parents are asked to do their best
00:15:50.220 to keep their children isolated from others,
00:15:52.460 including from those in their own family.
00:15:54.920 These people are child abusers.
00:15:56.840 This is child abuse.
00:15:57.860 That's what this is.
00:15:59.000 Child abuse, but no more than terrifying children
00:16:01.560 the rest of the past year,
00:16:03.260 forcing them to wear masks.
00:16:04.760 Children no longer even remember
00:16:06.280 what it was like in the before times.
00:16:08.560 See their mom smile.
00:16:09.720 See other people smile.
00:16:12.200 See people talk when they talk to you.
00:16:13.960 This is child abuse.
00:16:14.760 That's what this is.
00:16:16.180 Yeah, when some public health tyrant says,
00:16:18.480 oh, guys, just use your common sense
00:16:20.760 that isn't allowed, that's illegal,
00:16:23.560 that's subject to fines.
00:16:24.660 Just use your common sense.
00:16:25.540 But even if it wasn't subject to a $5,000 fine,
00:16:28.260 I know what common sense means to me,
00:16:30.620 and I'm pretty sure it has the same meaning
00:16:32.920 for most people, and I'm pretty sure
00:16:34.700 it has nothing to do with what these control freaks
00:16:37.160 consider to be common sense
00:16:38.860 in their bizarre, dystopian, cruel world.
00:16:42.120 Stay with us for more.
00:16:42.960 Hi, just checking in.
00:17:03.600 Sorry?
00:17:04.240 Can I help you?
00:17:05.060 Yes, I have a room.
00:17:06.220 Here?
00:17:06.840 Yeah.
00:17:08.440 This is the quarantine place, right?
00:17:11.340 You will be assisted over here, sir?
00:17:16.100 Yeah, by Omkar.
00:17:19.460 By?
00:17:20.060 Omkar!
00:17:21.280 Yes?
00:17:22.640 I have someone checking in.
00:17:25.060 I can help you.
00:17:27.880 Is this form for you guys or for the government?
00:17:30.920 For us.
00:17:34.100 February 28th, hey?
00:17:37.880 Yep.
00:17:38.940 So I can't go to the hot tub?
00:17:40.100 Yes.
00:17:41.340 But you get four fresh air breaks.
00:17:44.800 Four fresh air breaks.
00:17:45.880 Yes.
00:17:46.220 Four fresh air breaks.
00:17:47.320 Just call the front desk and schedule a time with them.
00:17:50.540 Per day.
00:17:51.300 Per day, yeah.
00:17:52.600 Eight zero, I call someone?
00:17:54.400 Yes.
00:17:55.660 So that you can place an order for the snack
00:17:57.860 and for the dinner for tonight.
00:17:59.520 Okay.
00:17:59.700 And they will also take your order for next day breakfast.
00:18:02.720 Okay.
00:18:07.240 Go ahead.
00:18:07.840 I'm so sorry.
00:18:10.140 It's a strange situation these days.
00:18:12.280 It's not your fault.
00:18:13.000 It's Justin Trudeau's fault.
00:18:16.480 Thinking he can put Canadians in jails.
00:18:20.180 This is basically jail.
00:18:21.560 Yeah, it sounds like that.
00:18:22.520 But we'll treat you in a...
00:18:23.360 Oh, I'm sure he will.
00:18:24.980 But I should be allowed to go home, see my partner.
00:18:30.600 And I was told that the locks had been removed from the doors.
00:18:36.520 Did you hear that?
00:18:37.160 I'm sorry?
00:18:37.600 The locks have been removed from the doors?
00:18:39.980 Locks.
00:18:40.680 Locks.
00:18:41.320 Like deadbolts?
00:18:43.220 Not really.
00:18:44.420 So that hasn't been the case here?
00:18:46.760 No.
00:18:47.020 Okay.
00:18:51.420 And yet, one thing has to go inside the slot here.
00:18:55.240 Okay.
00:18:55.720 And it stays here for the light.
00:18:57.820 Sure.
00:18:58.280 Okay.
00:18:58.580 Awesome.
00:18:59.340 Thank you.
00:18:59.960 Well, that is footage from our own Kian Bexty
00:19:02.060 at one of Canada's federally mandated quarantine detention centers
00:19:08.460 set up by Justin Trudeau at hotels across Canada.
00:19:12.360 That one was in Calgary.
00:19:13.920 Kian had just returned from a brief news gathering mission to the United States.
00:19:19.300 And it was a comedy of errors and no one wanting to take responsibility for things.
00:19:24.560 A shambles.
00:19:26.740 Kian is now out of that quarantine detention center.
00:19:29.880 He is at home finishing his quarantine there, having received a negative test.
00:19:36.260 He joins us now via Skype to talk about a Kian.
00:19:39.940 It looked sort of like a minimum security experience.
00:19:43.660 I mean, you had food, you were given time in the yard, you had to stay in your room 90%
00:19:48.560 of the time.
00:19:49.560 You could have broken away if you wanted to, except for we don't charge prisoners for their
00:19:55.520 minimum security incarceration.
00:19:58.760 You were charged hundreds of dollars.
00:20:01.840 Yeah, you're absolutely right.
00:20:02.960 We were supposed to stay in our hotel room, jail cell, whatever you want to call it, all the time,
00:20:09.500 no matter what, unless a security personnel came to escort us to our yard time.
00:20:15.860 And, you know, you mentioned that I did partake in some yard time.
00:20:19.380 We got a lot of emails from folks and even someone who works at a federal maximum security prison
00:20:27.840 and said that even his prisoners were treated better than us, given more yard time, given
00:20:32.620 more time to work out.
00:20:33.600 And they were also given better food than we were given, which wasn't a surprise to me
00:20:38.020 because if you saw the breakfast that I ate, it was pitiful.
00:20:43.320 And the fact that we were paying for it even made it worse.
00:20:47.980 You know, luckily, we have a lot of donors that support the work that we do.
00:20:52.680 But many people who are traveling are traveling because they were going to a funeral or they
00:20:57.980 were going to visit their dying brother, one individual is mentioning to me in San Francisco.
00:21:03.520 They are being forced to pay this money.
00:21:05.720 And sometimes they don't even have to stay in the hotel as long as they were made to pay
00:21:10.360 for it.
00:21:10.740 So it just it's it's a comedy of errors and really it needs to be put to an end.
00:21:16.600 This needs to stop and it needs to stop now.
00:21:18.620 Yeah.
00:21:18.900 You mentioned, for example, someone visiting dying family.
00:21:22.820 We've heard cases of people who have a medical emergency they need to travel for.
00:21:26.900 We heard a case of a victim of crime who was coming to testify had to quarantine.
00:21:32.180 But you know what?
00:21:34.120 Section six of our Charter of Rights guarantees mobility for any reason.
00:21:39.640 And it doesn't have to be a depressing reason or a cataclysmic reason.
00:21:44.900 And if you've ever read the first page of your passport, and I encourage people to do
00:21:50.640 so, it's basically a letter from the Queen to the world saying, hey, this is a Canadian
00:21:55.780 citizen.
00:21:56.720 Please give them all rights and privileges you can.
00:21:59.380 And they can come back to Canada anytime.
00:22:02.120 That's basically what a passport is.
00:22:04.700 So the fact that you can't come back into Canada, the country of your citizenship, and
00:22:10.720 go home and that you're forced to incarcerate, it's, you know, it's extra bad when it's an
00:22:17.060 important reason.
00:22:18.080 But even if it's just for a casual reason or vacation, a lot of people want a vacation.
00:22:23.640 Some people spend maybe $1,000 on a week-long vacation getaway.
00:22:27.720 They come back and then they have to spend $2,000 on their own incarceration.
00:22:32.560 It's an attack on so many basic freedoms that we used to take for granted until just a few
00:22:38.000 minutes ago.
00:22:39.520 Yeah, you're totally right about that.
00:22:40.780 It doesn't have to be this depressing story about why you left.
00:22:43.100 And everyone has this fundamental right to come and go from this country.
00:22:46.960 And frankly, you know, while I was in the COVID jail, there was, I've never actually
00:22:51.900 received such, so much vitriol from the left, from Justin Trudeau supporters, you know, people
00:22:57.900 with pronouns in their bios, saying that, oh, I shouldn't have been traveling.
00:23:01.780 And they say that I deserved it, staying in the hotel.
00:23:05.280 And, you know, I mean, that was, we knew it was going to happen.
00:23:07.700 I wasn't upset that I was in it.
00:23:08.760 I just wanted to document this story to show Canadians what other Canadians had to go through.
00:23:14.000 And it's just not fair to put them through it.
00:23:16.520 You know, Canadians have a right to go on vacation.
00:23:18.880 We were, you know, we were hard on the pro-lockdown cabinet ministers that went to Hawaii hypocritically
00:23:26.460 while they were governing this province, saying we should be locked down.
00:23:29.660 But that doesn't mean that we're opposed to other Canadians enjoying their lives, right?
00:23:33.660 Like, we support their right to leave.
00:23:35.360 We support the right to return.
00:23:36.860 But Justin Trudeau is using them as a scapegoat, right?
00:23:39.700 Like, he's using them almost to punish them, to, actually, it's not almost to punish them.
00:23:45.600 This is basically a fine.
00:23:47.160 It's a $2,000 fine for any travelers.
00:23:50.440 It's a travel fine.
00:23:51.740 And he's doing that almost to distract, I think, from the catastrophic failure that he's
00:23:56.540 had of managing this pandemic and the recovery of the pandemic.
00:24:00.480 The vaccine procurement schedule that has gone completely bonkers.
00:24:04.900 He's using third world countries to supply Canada with vaccines right now to pretend like
00:24:10.500 he's doing a good job.
00:24:11.440 And he's using these Canadians, these good Canadians who are in sometimes desperate situations
00:24:16.100 as scapegoats.
00:24:17.180 And it's really unfortunate.
00:24:19.160 Yeah.
00:24:19.640 One of the things most frustrating is the Kafkaesque feeling that no one knows what's going on,
00:24:25.680 but you have to comply anyways.
00:24:26.940 No one knows what the rules are, but you'd better follow them.
00:24:31.620 When you landed at the Calgary airport, there were some very officious, busybody-style health
00:24:37.700 authorities there.
00:24:38.960 But when you pointed out, look, Section 14 of the Quarantine Act says you can't put anything
00:24:43.900 in my body to poke and prod me.
00:24:45.900 They say, oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
00:24:48.940 We don't have the right to do so.
00:24:51.560 But if you don't do it and if you leave, we're going to call the cops on you.
00:24:54.700 And by the way, there's a $750,000 fine.
00:24:57.720 Here's a quick clip of that exchange.
00:24:59.820 So this is who you would ask the questions to.
00:25:01.940 Great.
00:25:02.460 Hello.
00:25:03.120 Hi.
00:25:03.620 We're in for public health.
00:25:04.600 Great.
00:25:05.440 Just the people I wanted to talk to.
00:25:07.100 I've been told that I have to get a test.
00:25:09.200 Yep.
00:25:09.400 And I understand the Quarantine Act says that I can refuse a foreign body being put, foreign
00:25:17.760 object being put in my body.
00:25:19.020 It's Section 14.1 of the Quarantine Act screening technology.
00:25:22.740 It says any qualified person authorized by the minister may, to determine whether a traveler
00:25:27.120 has a communicable disease or symptoms of one, use any screening technology authorized
00:25:32.500 by the minister that does not involve the entry into the traveler's body of any instrument
00:25:36.900 or other foreign body.
00:25:40.040 So I would like to not.
00:25:43.560 Not do the test?
00:25:45.040 Yeah.
00:25:45.240 Okay.
00:25:46.260 Right.
00:25:46.620 That's your prerogative.
00:25:47.640 We just, we put it out to local law enforcement to see if they're going to take any action for
00:25:52.700 non-compliance that we put that in their hands.
00:25:54.980 Sure.
00:25:55.280 All we do is just then flag you as being non-compliant with the current laws that are
00:25:59.800 in place, but we are in no way able to force anything like you said that's into your body.
00:26:07.340 We never have, never will be able to do that.
00:26:10.040 But that's the law.
00:26:10.900 So why would law enforcement be able to penalize me for following the law and practicing my rights
00:26:16.060 to not accept this?
00:26:17.220 Well, because this is a public health emergency order put in place that to protect the public
00:26:22.240 health, we are testing all international travelers.
00:26:25.280 It says you have the right to do that.
00:26:27.040 You just don't have the right to do it with an object going into my body.
00:26:30.900 If there's any, you know, way to.
00:26:34.320 Currently, we don't have any non-invasive tests.
00:26:37.600 Okay.
00:26:39.100 You don't have any non-invasive tests?
00:26:40.900 No.
00:26:41.680 That's not my problem.
00:26:46.960 I don't know what else I can say to you.
00:26:50.080 You've read the Quarantine Act.
00:26:51.640 Yeah.
00:26:51.800 I mean, you are, if you've read the Quarantine Act, you are also aware of the enforcement
00:26:56.340 actions that can be taken in non-compliance issues.
00:26:58.760 So really, your actions are in your hands.
00:27:03.420 And whatever you do decide to do, we just follow up as per our operations.
00:27:08.840 So if you are non-compliant, then we do have to flag you up.
00:27:13.380 Well, would I be able to call my lawyer then before we do, before we make a determination?
00:27:21.240 I will not be speaking with your lawyer.
00:27:22.780 No, I'm calling my lawyer.
00:27:25.400 So Kian, they're saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
00:27:28.320 You don't have to take this test, but we'll call the cops if you don't.
00:27:31.580 You don't have to go to this hotel and pay two grand, or there's a $750,000 fine.
00:27:37.540 No helplines available.
00:27:39.160 The hotel didn't have answers.
00:27:40.580 They're not a law firm.
00:27:42.420 Public health numbers ring busy.
00:27:44.960 I heard of someone who made 15 repeated phone calls to the health department, every single
00:27:51.380 one of them cut off.
00:27:54.060 Part of me thinks that this is by design, as you say, to make such a mess of travel that
00:28:00.500 people say, yikes, I'm not going to travel anymore.
00:28:02.700 But part of me thinks, no, no, no.
00:28:04.400 This is just the typical incompetence of Justin Trudeau and his regime, who have never actually
00:28:11.180 really done anything in life besides pose for selfies.
00:28:13.920 They've never managed anything or run anything.
00:28:16.840 So I don't know.
00:28:17.320 Is it malice?
00:28:18.300 Is it stupidity?
00:28:19.700 I'd say probably both.
00:28:21.820 It's a mix of malice and incompetence, I think.
00:28:24.360 And you're right.
00:28:25.080 When I told the bureaucrats, and this was a story in its own right, right?
00:28:29.120 Like I said, well, Section 14.1 of the Quarantine Act says that you don't have a right to stick
00:28:33.940 anything in my body.
00:28:34.980 You can test me.
00:28:35.980 You have that right to test me to see if I have a communicable disease, which, of course,
00:28:39.920 I obviously didn't, because I took a test when I was in Florida to come back, that this
00:28:45.780 would have been my second test that wanted me to partake in.
00:28:48.120 And now I'm going to have to take a third test.
00:28:49.720 But the point is, they didn't have a right to stick something in my body, and they acknowledged
00:28:52.800 that.
00:28:53.380 But they said, oh, we don't have any non-invasive tests.
00:28:56.620 So my options were to comply with their unpreparedness and to let Justin Trudeau stick something in
00:29:03.160 my body, which sounds horrendous, but that is what it is.
00:29:07.660 So it was either comply or risk a three-quarter million dollar fine, $750,000 is the maximum
00:29:15.220 penalty.
00:29:16.040 And it could be as much as that, right?
00:29:17.340 Like whether you have a profile or not, Justin Trudeau is vindictive, and his prosecutors
00:29:22.280 are vindictive when it comes to this, and they want to make an example out of people.
00:29:26.720 So what are your options, really?
00:29:28.840 Sure, they kept saying, you won't be arrested.
00:29:31.400 We can't force you to stay here.
00:29:33.040 We're not going to pin you down and make you take this test.
00:29:35.700 But your alternative is something that is a fine that is so staggering that it could be
00:29:40.020 life crippling.
00:29:40.880 It could be life altering.
00:29:41.900 You'd go bankrupt.
00:29:42.720 You'd lose your house.
00:29:43.400 You'd lose your car.
00:29:44.560 Your family would fall apart if you got a fine like this.
00:29:47.300 So really, what's the difference if a cop comes and steamrolls you and puts you in handcuffs
00:29:51.900 versus the threat and the lack of understanding of what that fine actually could be?
00:29:58.200 Of course, you're going to comply.
00:29:59.760 And of course, I did because I wanted to go to the hotel and see the quarantine facilities
00:30:04.040 and see what was going on.
00:30:05.740 That was the primary reason.
00:30:07.800 Yeah.
00:30:07.920 So it's interesting because you had to pay for your own incarceration to comply.
00:30:11.780 But if you didn't comply, theoretically, you would be arrested and thrown in jail courtesy
00:30:17.000 of the taxpayer.
00:30:18.880 It's so strange.
00:30:19.760 It reminds me of an Edmonton where Pastor Coates is now, I think it's into his third week of
00:30:25.360 imprisonment at the maximum security facility at the Edmonton Remand Center.
00:30:29.400 So he's been in prison for more than two weeks, but actual violent criminals have been led out
00:30:36.120 of that prison because of COVID.
00:30:38.480 So it's just complete upside downism.
00:30:41.160 And I don't see law professors or civil liberties groups other than the Justice Center for Constitutional
00:30:47.340 Freedoms caring.
00:30:48.760 Now, we have started discussions with a law firm to make a constitutional challenge the
00:30:55.040 way you were handled.
00:30:55.940 Now, obviously, you're out of the COVID jail, but being forced to go in and being forced
00:31:01.860 to go through that, I think, gives you standing to make a charter challenge.
00:31:06.880 When we have finished our consultations with the lawyers, we'll make a public announcement
00:31:10.620 and let people know.
00:31:11.460 I would love it if your well-documented experience served as the catalyst to have this law thrown
00:31:20.400 out as unconstitutional.
00:31:21.800 Frankly, I think it's a winner.
00:31:23.840 There's so many things that are breached.
00:31:25.560 Your freedom and mobility, your security of the person, due process, you know, you're
00:31:33.960 basically thrown in jail without a trial.
00:31:37.740 Jailing the innocent, quarantining the healthy, none of it makes sense.
00:31:41.940 And how is any of it better than the quarantine program beforehand when you just went home?
00:31:47.360 Makes no sense to me.
00:31:48.640 But hopefully we can get something good to come out of this in the form of a charter challenge.
00:31:52.100 That's a really good point.
00:31:54.020 I wanted to elaborate on that.
00:31:55.100 I mean, the risk of the spread, say this virus was like the Ebola that they're pretending
00:32:00.680 it is.
00:32:01.620 And, you know, if I was to go to this hotel, which I did, the likelihood of that spread
00:32:06.780 is much higher with me being in that hotel.
00:32:09.140 I mean, were these hotels built with hospital-grade filters?
00:32:12.000 I don't know.
00:32:12.640 My guess is the old hotels that they're using in Montreal and in Toronto that are 40, 50 years
00:32:19.100 old, they're probably, you know, not equipped with the most latest HVAC filters and requirements
00:32:26.580 and systems that they need.
00:32:27.900 But besides that, I mean, if you watch the video, which you can see at NoCovidJails.com,
00:32:32.320 of me actually being received by this quarantine site, there was several instances when I was
00:32:38.440 within two meters of hotel staff, I was standing in an elevator, not just once, but three times
00:32:45.340 actually with hotel staff, especially when I went out to go experience my yard time.
00:32:49.900 I was in very close quarters with these people touching the same buttons.
00:32:52.560 They actually came into my room.
00:32:54.280 We walked within, you know, a foot of each other when I walked into my room.
00:32:58.940 They obviously aren't concerned about it.
00:33:00.840 They're just, this is all a show.
00:33:02.100 So when Canadians look at this, they see, well, what is really, and I'm glad we were
00:33:06.100 able to expose this because they see this and they see, well, they're obviously not taking
00:33:09.540 it super seriously at these hotels, at these quarantine sites.
00:33:12.760 So it's obviously just a show.
00:33:14.560 If I just went home, I wouldn't have talked to anyone.
00:33:16.800 I wouldn't have been in close contact with anyone.
00:33:18.480 And the risk would have been zero of me spreading it to anyone because I'm going to comply with
00:33:22.600 the quarantine when I'm here.
00:33:23.920 I mean, it would have been nice if the Alberta program, the pilot program that only required
00:33:28.300 a seven-day quarantine was still in effect, but Justin Trudeau canceled that and steamrolled
00:33:33.100 the province, which, you know, is another story in its own right.
00:33:36.840 But I'm going to comply with my quarantine.
00:33:38.920 It just, I could have just gone, now I've been at two places and seen dozens of people.
00:33:44.680 It just doesn't make sense.
00:33:46.000 So what is the reasoning here?
00:33:47.980 Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:33:49.480 You know, after 9-11, we went, we built this whole expensive infrastructure around air travel
00:33:55.220 that I don't think in 20 years has ever got a terrorist.
00:33:58.240 I call it security theater.
00:34:01.840 And I think what you went through is public health theater.
00:34:06.160 I don't think it would have stopped an infection if you had it.
00:34:10.500 I don't think it made any scientific sense.
00:34:13.360 But it was just for show, for theater, to scare people, to punish people, and probably
00:34:19.100 to reward liberal cronies, who I'm sure are amongst those who've received these fat contracts.
00:34:24.240 We'll look forward to the rest of your reports.
00:34:26.880 I know you're going to be in quarantine at home now, but hopefully something good will
00:34:31.260 come from this.
00:34:31.940 And if we do file a constitutional challenge, we'll let the world know.
00:34:35.960 You're at home now, so, you know, I guess my advice wouldn't be stay safe.
00:34:39.840 It would be try not to get too bored, but keep up the work from home.
00:34:44.180 Try not to lose my mind.
00:34:45.300 Thanks, Ezra.
00:34:45.840 Okay, see you later.
00:34:46.820 There you have it.
00:34:47.560 Ian Bexty, you can see all our vids on this topic at NoCovidJails.com.
00:34:52.420 Stay with us.
00:34:52.860 Hey, welcome back.
00:35:05.620 On my show last night, Robert writes, CBC has triggered that people would rather hear
00:35:09.700 what Trump has to say than their love pieces over Trudeau.
00:35:13.260 Yeah, I just keep laughing at Alex Panetta who says, oh my God, people are listening to
00:35:16.600 Trump instead of our life-saving reports.
00:35:19.520 Life-saving.
00:35:20.420 You know, I like a guy with high self-esteem, and I guess if you're in the journalism business,
00:35:25.560 you have to have a bit of arrogance.
00:35:27.240 I mean, you're writing something, and you have to assume people really want to read what
00:35:31.440 you have to write.
00:35:32.160 I get it.
00:35:32.940 You need some narcissism to be a journalist.
00:35:35.260 But, mate, I don't think you're saving any lives with your listicles about, you know,
00:35:39.980 the top 10 cool ways that Rihanna is reacting to the lockdown.
00:35:44.420 Yeah, I just don't think you're saving lives, mate.
00:35:47.400 Julie writes, was amazing to see and hear President Trump.
00:35:50.560 Again, his talk wasn't long enough.
00:35:52.320 I could listen to him all day long.
00:35:54.180 Well, you can find his whole speech on YouTube.
00:35:56.080 It was 90 minutes.
00:35:57.840 I thought it was a pretty good speech.
00:35:59.780 Debbie writes, Trump is the news.
00:36:01.600 He tells the truth, and people know it.
00:36:02.980 Well, I come back to that Alex Panetta tweet.
00:36:06.600 He was really mad that people wanted to hear directly from Trump, or even about Trump on
00:36:11.360 the CBC.
00:36:12.320 No one cares about Joe Biden, because I think we all know that Joe Biden isn't really the
00:36:16.520 decider, is he?
00:36:18.120 That's the show for today.
00:36:19.240 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:36:22.860 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
00:36:32.980 We'll be right back.