Climate activism and the Great Reset
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In this episode, my guest is Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science. She talks about the Great Reset, climate alarmism, media blackouts, and how climate activists are stifling free speech. And she sets the stage for an upcoming event with Donna La Framboise.
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Hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my weekly Wednesday night show,
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The Gun Show. However, this of course is the internet, so you can listen to this whenever
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you feel like. Tonight my guest is Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science, and we're
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talking about the thing that everybody is talking about all of a sudden now that Trudeau has
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actually used the words, and that's the Great Reset. But we're also talking about how climate
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alarmism has become an excuse to limit the free expression of not just skeptics, but really
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Free speech, media blackouts, and the great reset. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching
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Our friends over at Friends of Science, that little upstart organization that tries to give
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a more science-minded assessment of just how much us pesky humans affect the weather, is
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hosting an online event that discusses how climate activism undermines free thought and
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free speech. And speaking of which, some Canadian filmmakers are experiencing a bit of a media
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blackout when they tried to promote their documentary that tried to give a more balanced take on the
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global warming debate. And everyone is just now talking about the Great Reset now that Trudeau
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used those words. The Great Reset is really using the pandemic to rewrite our economies in a more
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green way, which of course means a less efficient way with more centralized control by people who don't
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know what they're doing. But Friends of Science has been talking about the Great Reset for months
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because they are regular watchers of the World Economic Forum. Now today's interview runs a little
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longer than my interviews normally do, so I'm just going to get right into it. Here's my interview
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with my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science that we recorded yesterday afternoon.
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Joining me now from her home in Calgary is good friend of the show, my friend Michelle Sterling
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from Friends of Science. Michelle, thanks for joining me. Before we get going, it's the days of the
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COVID and we aren't allowed to do a lot of big events in person anymore, but that hasn't stopped
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Friends of Science from organizing an event with Donna LaFramboise. You've got an upcoming event
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about how climate activism is stifling free speech. That's right. Donna LaFramboise was our speaker in
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2012 when she exposed the IPCC as being a delinquent teenager, you know, unwilling to clean up its act
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and filled with all kinds of nasty habits. And she was a big hit back then. And she's gone on and done
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another book and she runs a great blog called bigpick.com. But we decided to invite her and she
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was supposed to be speaking live last year in April, of course, and our event was canceled. So we moved it
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online. It's going to be December the 8th at 7pm Mountain Standard Time. And people can either take
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out a membership which will give them free access to this event and others, or they can just buy the
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one-time ticket for $15. So I think the membership is a better deal because you also get the whole
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package of Friends of Science membership, extracts, CLI-Sci, reports, press releases, and you can
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subscribe or unsubscribe according to what your preference is on those. But it's a good deal. And
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Donna is a free speech advocate. She's the former vice president of the Canadian Civil Liberties
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Association. And she really believes firmly that, you know, no matter what your position is on climate
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change, there should be an open debate about it. There should be open civil debate on these things,
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and people should not be run out of academia or denigrated, called deniers. So she's got a very
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interesting methodical presentation that I think will really enlighten a lot of people about what's
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wrong with attacking and denigrating somebody who disagrees with you. So we really look forward to that
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December 8th, 7pm Mountain Standard Time. And if all goes well, we will have her presentation and then
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a live chat with Donna. So registered guests can send in questions, which will be fielded to Donna.
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And I think it'll be a great evening. It's our first online event. So we are doing our best and
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You know, I'm very excited because Donna is one of the civil libertarians of old. You know,
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in the times of the COVID, civil liberties are really being stomped on and yet we're hearing a lot of
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silence from the so-called civil liberties organizations outside of, I guess, the Justice
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Center for Constitutional Freedoms. They're really on the front lines of a lot of this.
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And it's strange how far, and I know this isn't really climate change related, but it's strange how
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far things have fallen away since Donna left the organization.
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Oh, the civil liberties. Well, I don't know all the history there, but I do notice that they are
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pretty quiet about a lot of different civil liberties issues where you'd think that people
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in that capacity would speak up. You'd think that most journalists would speak up for freedom of the
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press. But in fact, I'm not going to give away too much of the show here, but one of the key points
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she brings out is the Winnipeg Free Press wrote an op-ed that, you know, deniers should be denied
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the right to speak. And she followed up with the editorial staff there because it was, you know,
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the perspectives editor had put it together. But it was really an editorial from the whole
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editorial department and they were like, no, that's our position. And it's like, how can that be?
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Yeah. You know, you're supposed to be in newspaper. You're supposed to be in favor of
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free speech and open debate, different points of view. Guess not. So very odd.
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Yeah. Especially at a newspaper called the Winnipeg Free Press.
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And we've seen this sort of crackdown on free speech from within the media. We've seen it with
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Rex Murphy, where his own colleagues at the National Post sort of spoke out against him
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because, you know, he expresses opinions that are not woke enough for that, for, you know,
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for the rest of the National Post colleagues. And instead of, you know, arguing these things
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out on the editorial pages of a newspaper, they'd just much rather shut you up. It's very
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fascinating to watch, but also sort of frightening to watch that this is the state of journalism in
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this country. Yes. No, it's terrifying to watch because once you don't have freedom of speech,
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then you have tombstones. If you ever read the book called Tombstone about Mao's era in the
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Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward in China, where 36 to 48 million people died,
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mercilessly died in horrible circumstances in the same kind of struggle sessions we see now in the
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media, where people glom on and attack an individual and relentlessly go after them until
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they comply or submit. You know, that's what we're seeing. We're not seeing open civil debate.
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And when you look at Amartya Sen, who was a UN envoy, and he's an economist, and he did a study,
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I think it was 1995, I can send you the clip. But he studied all, he and his group studied all
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countries in the world. And they found wherever there was a free press, there was no famine. But
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when there was no free press, there was famine in the land. So that's how serious it is.
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Speaking now of the state of the media, that's pretty great segue because you folks at Friends of
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Science have done some work promoting the, I guess it's a movie documentary, but it's pretty balanced.
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It's called Global Warning, and it's by Matthew Embry. And there's been pretty much a media blackout
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about his movie. And I think it's because it actually provides some balance to the climate change
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debate, as opposed to the Greta Thunberg, one side, we're all going to die. We've got, I don't know,
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what is it, nine, 10 years left to live? That sort of hysteria. He doesn't do that. And so again,
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there's sort of this cone of silence falling over top of his movie.
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Yes, well, Matthew Embry is a Calgary filmmaker. He's got a great track record. He's done a number of
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award winning films. He's been publicized all over the world for his film work. And last year,
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he did this film called Global Warning with Super Channel. And they sent out all kinds of press
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releases and got one interview. Wow. So, you know, he just really had a media blackout. So
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they asked us if we'd like to promote the film. And just so you know, we do get a small percentage of
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the video on demand fee, but their, their fee is like $6. So yeah, you know, it's a nominal portion
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of that. But we did some interviews with him to meet the filmmakers. So people could get to know
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the person behind the film. What an interesting young man. He really throws himself right into
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these topics. And in this film, he made every effort to interview everyone from every side of the story.
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And so, you know, he does it from the point of view of a Calgarian watching his city crumble,
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and trying to find out why, and trying to find out, well, where's the valid argument. And he found
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valid arguments on many sides. And you see that in the film, it's really touching. And it's very
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powerful. But what the thing I found most interesting is that he actually has Catherine Abreu,
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who is one of the top 100 most influential people in the world on climate change. And he follows her
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around at COP24. And he 24, yeah, 24. And, and she allows him to come to a meeting where she gets to
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meet face to face with the climate change negotiator just before they go into negotiations. Like, would
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anyone in Alberta, for instance, ever have that opportunity? Anyone from, say, Cody Battersell,
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would he be able to go in and advocate for Canada Action and all the unemployed people? I don't think
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so. But anyway, that was that just blew my mind. And the fact that he was able to do that on camera
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was fantastic. So it's really a great film. And, you know, I understand we may be going into another
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lockdown. So it's a good way to spend an evening, start a little discussion with your family and friends,
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maybe a good gift. Well, I, you and I were talking off camera, I'm going to reach out to
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Matthew, because first off, I don't like media blackouts on opinions that the mainstream media
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doesn't like. Because usually when it's an opinion that the mainstream media doesn't like, it means
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it's actually a mainstream opinion held by the public. And, you know, the fact that he's a Calgarian
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talking about the destruction of his city, because of these weird climate policies. What a great
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firsthand account, but also the fact that he went to the UN Climate Change Conference COP24 and had
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access. He probably won't have that ever again, just based on personal experience. They probably won't
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have him back. So I would love to talk to him. So yeah, I will definitely reach out to him.
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Yeah. And another person that they ran into was Dr. Fritz Varenholt, who was also in Germany,
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and he made time available for them to come and interview him. Now, Dr. Varenholt has a long
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background as an environmentalist. He was really one of the first environmentalists over there back
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in the 70s, an advocate for wind and solar. But as time has gone on, he's found he was an expert
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reviewer for the IPCC. He found that there were many errors in the IPCC reports that he sent to them.
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They did not correct them. And he's also found over time that really, you know, there's a true
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limit to renewables on the grid. They may be complementary, but they cannot be 100%. And he
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explains that in the film. But you know, this is from the voice of experience. This is a really
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incredibly well-rounded person who's gone through the whole gamut of environmentalism and industry
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activity. So he really, really knows his stuff. So great film in that regard, too.
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It's funny how many people are, for lack of a better term, aging out of the environmental movement.
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And I think it's because they've seen one too many doomsdays come and go. And then they've seen
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the practical application of the ideas of the environmental movement and have seen the devastation
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that they've caused or the ineffectiveness of the ideas of the environmental movement, like how green
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energy is simply complementary. It's not something that could ever power our economy. Because really,
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that's what we're talking about when we're saying the energy grid. You don't just need something that
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keeps the lights on in your house. You need to be able to power and fuel a robust, active, reliable
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economy that continues to grow and grow and grow. And that just can happen with renewables.
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Yeah. And oddly enough, the University of Calgary just put out this paper based on the IEA report
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claiming that now solar and wind are cheaper than natural gas. Oh, okay, but they just don't work.
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Yeah. But you know, here's a group of economists at the U of C public school of public policy,
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who just know zero about energy. It's astounding that people in that position are able to publish
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these kind of reports, get press in the Calgary Herald. And yet, this film, which exactly tells the
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story of energy and the collapse of the German economy because of their efforts to try and go
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in that direction. And it's the voice of experience of someone who actually worked in that industry
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and is knowledgeable on climate. He's also a professor of chemistry, you know, so
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Varenholt has all this background, author of many peer-reviewed papers on climate change.
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You know, it's funny because it seems that Germany was the ground zero for a lot of these
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bad ideas. And it's also ground zero for a lot of the, for lack of a better term, coming
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to Jesus for a lot of these climate activists. I mean, we've, we've seen Ryan Pools who, you
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know, he, he was working in Germany, although he's a Dutch filmmaker. You know, he talked about
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how in one of his movies, how, you know, the push towards green energy is actually causing
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food insecurity, you know, and it, and it was, it's a feel good idea to move to biofuels
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and look, we can actually just grow electricity. Like we grow food, but then it's like, well,
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you only have so much arable land. Where do you, where are you going to grow the food now?
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Yeah. Oh, well, we'll make it in a lab. See? So now we have a whole new industry of lab
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Isn't, isn't that fascinating? You know, we used to be able to farm food and animals on
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the land. Now we've decided to use that land to grow biofuels, corn, not to feed the animals
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or to feed the people, but to feed the cars when we used to just get that out of the ground
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underneath the land and then grow food on top of that. And now we have to grow our steaks
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in a lab. What have we done? What have we done? I wanted to talk about one of the recent reports
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or no, you know what? We'll get to that in a second. I wanted to talk to you first about
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new contributor that you guys have. Kate Wand. Usually we just, we just see Michelle Sterling's
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smiling face over at the Friends of Science YouTube page, but you've got a new girl on staff.
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Well, no, she's not on staff. She's a contributor, but she's a wonderful young woman who I ran across
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because she had done a piece on Drew Godafridi's book, The Green Reich. And Drew is from Belgium.
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So, Drew actually sent me a clip saying, well, look at this. Do you know this girl? You know,
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which is always so funny for someone in Canada because Europeans, you know, always kind of tend
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to think that if they know someone in Toronto and we're in Calgary, we probably know them too.
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So, anyhow, but she's down east and she's done quite a bit on aviation.
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And she's followed the track on aviation and noted that the climate movement is now hijacking
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the aviation industry. And Robert Lyman had written a number of reports about that for us
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late last year, noting that they were trying to impose carbon offset regulations on airlines,
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which, you know, most airlines already struggling were like, please stop hurting me. So, now what
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they've done is, you know, the great reset COVID lockdown has completely cratered the airline
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industry and they're all desperate. They're all just like hanging by a thread. So, now she's reporting
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that in Europe, governments are coming in with a bailout, but they are imposing these formerly
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voluntary carbon offset arrangements and taking a portion of the company in return for the financial
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contribution, which you might say would be fine if it were, you know, a limited time frame, like for,
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I don't know, five years till we can bail you out, you know, you pay us back, but that doesn't seem
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to be the case. But anyway, she did a whole big collection of pieces on airline hijacking,
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hijacking of airlines, aviation, I think it's called. You know, that's one of the pieces that
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we saw. And then she, since she's in Ontario, she went and interviewed Robert Lyman, which was
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fantastic of her own volition. And they continued talking about how climate change has now become
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this kind of messy umbrella that's covering every single thing in public policy. But it's actually
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destroying almost every single thing in public policy as well, because it's completely unbalanced
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and, you know, the objectives desired are not being met by any of these policies.
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You know, it's that speaking about aviation, that's a really quite a neat scam the government's
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pulling there. They close your industry by order of the government, then they offer to bail you out
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with, I guess, your own money. A little bit of water. Yeah, it's good. I like the water. Okay,
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you want a full cup? Well, then you're going to have to do this. Yeah, they offer to bail you out
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with your own money. Then you have to give them an ownership stake in the company that they have
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ruined through an act of their own government. Oh, and by the way, you have to run it exactly how
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they say. And I can't even think of anything more inefficient than a government run business.
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It's insane. Well, yeah, the other thing that goes with that, if you've ever read George Monbiot's,
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here's the plan from 2006, one of the things that he advocated for was a personal carbon ration
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that you could use to, you know, apply to your heating bill, your travel by car or airline flights.
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And if you run out of these carbon rations, then you just buy more from someone who has
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some they aren't using. Well, who would that be? Al Gore, perhaps. So, but, you know, you can see
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how this is a step further down that slippery slope, because now if the airlines are forced to deal in
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carbon offsets, well, now it's an easy slide to say, well, if you want to fly, you know, then you're
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going to cash in some of your ration. So. What a scam. Huge scam. Now, I alluded to a report that
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Friends of Science has done rebutting Gerald Butts, because Gerald Butts, although he's no longer in
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the prime minister's office, he's not gone away, and he's never going away. I think he's going to
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plague this nation for a very long time. And you folks have a report rebutting his five bold moves.
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That's right. We did this just shortly after the, the speech from the throne. But if you look at the
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five bold moves report that the task force on resilient recovery, which is made up of a number
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of people in smart prosperity, and also Mr. Butts, if you look at that five bold moves report, which is
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its subtitle, and you look at the speech from the throne, there's curious confluence there. And
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so we did an analysis of the task force report. And it's in it. Our report is called penury or
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prosperity. What is Canada's future? And we also have a short video overview of it. One of the things
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we found, first of all, is that the whole thing is fraught with conflicts of interest, foreign money,
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just like the tar sands campaign. And Parker Gallant did a lot of that research.
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Then we also went through the task force report, they did kind of a geopolitical overview saying,
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well, look, this is what France is doing. They're putting lots of electric cars, we should too,
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you know, and here's how much money the UK is spending, we should too, you know, let's retrofit
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all our buildings too. So the you know, they're kind of doing this copycat thing, like those guys
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are leaders. And if we want to be a climate leader, we better copy them. So we went through and did a
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geopolitical analysis, showing that in every one of these countries, there are factors that might be
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relevant for that country. And the best example is probably France. France has lots of nuclear power.
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So for them to go all electric vehicle, it's not such a big deal. And it's fairly temperate climate.
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It's a fairly small country compared to Canada. And it is also quite well wired already with
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infrastructure, high voltage infrastructure, and a very dense population. None of those things apply
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in Canada, none of them, not one. So you know, their big pitch was like, let's go all EV and let's
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electrify Canada. So that's one of the things we debunk there. And then the second part of the
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report, Canary or Prosperity, we go through step by step and look at things like hydrogen.
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And one of the people we work with quite closely is Professor Samuel Fafari, who's from the University
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of Free University of Belgium. And he's, he was working on hydrogen for the past, I don't know, 30,
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40 years. He's been a chief advisor or a key advisor to the EU on energy issues. And he's just published
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a book called the hydrogen illusion. Because hydrogen is not the next thing. Sorry, but it's not. And he's
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done all the hard work on it. So we detail that in our report as well. And there's another one, we found
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out one of the people who's a contributor to this group of the task force. She had been advocating for
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more First Nations renewables projects. And she cited the Coeces band, First Nation in Saskatchewan,
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and how they put up a wind farm with battery, and how great it was. And it only cost a couple of
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million bucks. Well, it turns out it costs more like $9 million. It turns out that the power from it is
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about three times the cost of regular power. And by comparison, you know, she had said, it's too bad we
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didn't do more of these, because think of how wonderful it would be for First Nations people.
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Well, we found that the Taltan people in BC, by comparison, they were the beneficiaries of $150
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million power line that was criticized at the time. But this power grid transmission line went to the
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mines in BC. And now, more than half the band is employed at these mines. They're making great money.
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It's bringing in $8 billion to the BC economy from this one crazy power line. So you know, that's a
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great infrastructure investment that has yielded multiple benefits, whereas the Coeces band experimental
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wind and battery farm, it's money down the drain, because it's, you know, this is not suitable for
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for Canada didn't create any jobs for them to speak of. And you can't export that energy,
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you can't make more money from it. You know, it's not an exportable product. So that's what our
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report does. It looks at all these things, breaks them down and debunks a lot of the ideological views
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of Mr. Butts and crew. You know, it's funny. And exposes the conflict of interest. It's funny to see
00:28:15.400
people still pursue these weird wind farm dreams when over and Edmonton is doing it right now using 50
00:28:24.120
plus acres in the River Valley to put up tens of thousands of solar farm panels to provide I think
00:28:35.600
it's one one fifth of the power on the best of days for the water treatment facility there and they raise
00:28:43.500
the money by overcharging rate payers for the last few years for it. And they're doing this after
00:28:49.420
Medicine Hat decided our solar panel, our city run solar panel facility has been an absolute boondoggle.
00:28:58.220
I think theirs cost almost 10 million dollars and they're ripping the thing out and then you just
00:29:01.860
can't throw it in the garbage because it's toxic waste. When if we want to talk about indigenous
00:29:07.320
prosperity, pipelines, pipelines, oil sands development, we only have to look at Fort Mackay to
00:29:15.240
see the success or the recent partnership between TC Energy. They're the owners of Keystone XL Pipeline
00:29:23.520
and, you know, they've joined together with Natural Law Energy, which is a First Nations conglomerate
00:29:31.160
from Treaty 4, Treaty 6, and Treaty 7. They're investing one billion dollars into that pipeline.
00:29:38.000
Here's how it goes forward and, you know, Joe Biden doesn't cancel it.
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Mm-hmm. Well, you know, the thing that people don't realize is that you want exportable products.
00:29:50.220
Like minerals can be exported, oil, gas, coal, all these forestry products. These are exportable
00:29:58.760
things that other people buy and when they buy them, the country gets money. But if you're just
00:30:04.080
putting your money into renewables here, then actually you're paying money probably to China
00:30:09.860
because that's where most of the renewables are made. And it's just a drain on the taxpayer's purse
00:30:16.440
and even more so, as you say, it's the one in Edmonton is subsidized by taxpayers. We did a paper that
00:30:22.820
you and I talked about in our last interview where the U of A was advocating for wind and
00:30:28.820
what a fantastic thing it is. Well, we showed how millions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies are going
00:30:35.520
to wind farms. Millions of dollars. And we're never getting that money back in energy and it's
00:30:40.900
not an exportable product. Well, except in Ontario where they give it away. Yeah.
00:30:45.520
At taxpayer's expense. Right. While people there are doing their laundry in the middle of the night
00:30:53.180
to avoid the peak usage charges. Now, I want to talk to you about one thing that I noticed the
00:31:00.800
other day when I was poking around on the Friends of Science YouTube channel, as I tend to do,
00:31:06.220
you folks were on the case of the Great Reset way before everybody else is talking about it.
00:31:13.580
And, you know, that's the language of the World Economic Forum. But now it's also the language
00:31:17.840
of Justin Trudeau. He's used that phrase, the Great Reset, even though the mainstream media is
00:31:23.980
saying that's a vast right wing conspiracy, this Great Reset. But it is the language of the World
00:31:30.540
Economic Forum. And you folks had a video months ago talking about it when the rest of the world is
00:31:36.940
just catching up now. Yes. Well, we've been tracking the World Economic Forum for some time
00:31:42.780
and actually in part because of our working with Clintel. Because quite a few months ago,
00:31:49.540
Clintel sent a note to Dorge Bende, who is the CEO of the World Economic Forum, telling him,
00:31:57.820
hey, there's no climate emergency, like cut it out. So we started looking into more and more of what
00:32:03.560
the World Economic Forum was advocating for. You know, we've done quite a few videos on them.
00:32:08.880
One of them was about Davos depopulation. Like just before COVID hit, these guys had
00:32:15.340
one of their Davos fests as usual. And Jane Goodall was talking about how if only the world had only
00:32:22.520
500 million people. You know, like these really ridiculously small numbers and everyone's like
00:32:30.420
really engaged on that. They think that's a great idea. You know, like, let's reduce the population.
00:32:36.860
Well, you know, and what's happening right now is that population is being reduced. And it's very
00:32:42.980
creepy. But when you look at the World Economic Forum website, you can find all these things. And
00:32:48.800
if this is a conspiracy theory, then there is a Danish MP who is right in on it, because she wrote an
00:32:56.160
article blog for the World Economic Forum saying, I've forgotten what shopping is. You know, I live in an
00:33:01.960
apartment. I have nothing. When I go out in the morning, my living room is used by business people
00:33:08.240
for a meeting. And I don't mind that. Weird. I'm too bad about all the people we left behind who live
00:33:13.500
in the country. And they, you know, I know that surveillance follows me everywhere. And I have no
00:33:19.400
privacy. And I hope they don't use it against me. She actually says that in this article. You're
00:33:25.240
thinking this is a member of parliament? This person represents real people? Like who would think of that?
00:33:30.940
But, you know, this, this is Klaus's book, The Fourth Industrial Revolution. And he's got a couple of
00:33:38.620
other books. And one is called COVID-19, The Great Reset. That's the name of the book. Wow. And in that
00:33:47.540
book, actually, it was Winter Oaks Press that did a great article about how crazy this guy is. But in that
00:33:55.500
book, he says, this is the least deadly pandemic of the past 2000 years. And he's really excited that,
00:34:05.500
for instance, well, we're talking on Zoom right now, he's very excited in one passage in the book,
00:34:11.460
he says, you know, look, Zoom's market cap is bigger than that of a US airline. Isn't that fantastic?
00:34:18.760
Well, not really. Zoom is very useful. I'm enjoying it right now. I would rather have the
00:34:25.020
real experience of flying to Edmonton and seeing Sheila Gunn-Reed, or flying to Europe and meeting
00:34:32.020
Drew Godafridi. I would like to have all those people in the airline industry employed. I would
00:34:38.320
like to have that supply chain of food and all those little packaged items. I would like that to be in
00:34:44.780
action. I would like to have the joy of traveling to a tiny, you know, island and nation where my trip
00:34:52.680
there is going to be a big portion of their GDP. I think that's way more important than Zoom having a
00:34:59.940
fantastically high market cap in a couple of weeks. Yeah, I mean, like you, I don't have a problem with
00:35:08.100
our economies evolving as technology changes, but I want it to happen organically. I don't want it to
00:35:14.580
happen by the hammer of the government and their hand of intervention, where we've just decided that
00:35:20.720
certain industries are no longer going to exist because they're inconvenient for us with what we
00:35:26.540
want to do with the economy. These command and control economies never work. They always collapse
00:35:32.820
at some point. And in the meantime, there's utter economic devastation faced by the worker that the
00:35:39.480
people making the decisions never have to come to terms with. Yeah, yeah, they don't really care. I
00:35:45.540
mean, actually, and Kate Wand has just done a really great video about the morality of lockdowns, which is
00:35:52.640
basically on that same point. So might be good to look that up as well. Definitely. Now, Michelle,
00:36:00.880
you've been very generous with your time. I want to give you a chance to let everybody know again,
00:36:06.140
how they can support the work that Friends of Science does. And maybe give us the information
00:36:11.040
for your event with Donna LaFramboise one more time. Okay, so Donna's event is Climate Activism
00:36:19.080
Undermining Freedom of Speech, Free Thought and Free Choice. And that's going to be on December the 8th
00:36:28.040
at 7pm. And it's online. So we'll have our registration website up soon. Just keep an eye
00:36:34.820
out for it. We are running an ad on YouTube so that you can get a, you know, a sense of what it
00:36:40.760
will be about. And it will be $15 per viewer. Or if you get a membership, which could either be one year
00:36:49.720
for $40 or three years for $80, then you will be able to access these events free of charge. Because
00:36:57.180
we will have a subsequent event in January with Dr. Roy Spencer. And he'll be talking about the main
00:37:03.400
reasons why there's no climate emergency. And we're planning to do some more events with Clintel
00:37:09.400
over the course of the year as well. So you know, you'll have access to a lot of good material.
00:37:15.420
And you can find memberships on our website, just go to our website, friends of science.org. And
00:37:24.300
you'll find up in the corner, a donate membership button, just click on that. And you can go in
00:37:28.420
and become a member and or donate as you see fit. And we'd love to have you. And if not, you know,
00:37:34.860
we've got lots of free material on our Facebook, our LinkedIn, our Twitter feed, our YouTube channel,
00:37:41.000
our blog. So, you know, join us. You know, friends of science is one of those organizations that
00:37:48.440
stretches every penny. You're, you're a small organization, you don't have big foreign funded
00:37:56.020
backers like the environmental movement, very science focused, you take these big, complex,
00:38:02.180
scientific and economic ideas and break them down into digestible ways that people can consume the
00:38:09.420
information and not just consume the information and understand it, but then use it in the world
00:38:14.940
in, you know, in arguments, take those arguments out into the world and easily communicate them. And
00:38:20.340
for, you know, for 40 bucks a year, boy, people sure get their money's worth.
00:38:27.120
Thank you. Yes. Well, we hope so. We think so. Yeah, we do our best.
00:38:31.700
Well, Michelle, thank you so much for coming on the show. We'll have you back on again real soon,
00:38:35.740
definitely before your January event and maybe even after your December event to just see how
00:38:42.420
everything went. I'll probably be lurking in the Zoom call for that too.
00:38:46.940
Okay. Well, and I just want to say to you, Sheila and to all the viewers, I hope everybody
00:38:52.180
keeps their spirits up in these difficult times and Merry Christmas to everyone. Happy Hanukkah
00:39:00.340
and hang in there, everybody. It's tough times, but you know, people went through World War II,
00:39:07.520
World War I, the Great Depression, you know, read some of the biographies and autobiographies and
00:39:15.040
diaries of our forefathers and get some strength from it. So hang in there, everyone. Merry Christmas,
00:39:21.060
Happy New Year. May 2021 be way better than 2020. What a great way to leave the show. You know,
00:39:30.580
at times are tough, but as you know, Albertans are tougher. Thanks for coming on the show, Michelle.
00:39:36.260
You know, thank goodness for Friends of Science and the work that they do on their little shoestring
00:39:53.220
budget because boy, oh boy, they are often very ahead of the curve on so many issues where climate
00:40:01.360
change becomes the excuse to do so many things to us like tax us, put us out of work or limit our
00:40:08.900
free expression. Imagine what Friends of Science could do if they had the budget of the big foreign
00:40:15.420
funded environmental movement. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much
00:40:20.500
for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week. And
00:40:25.520
remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
00:40:36.280
America caught a cheating attack and said, I'm coming up his head on the same topic,
00:40:41.060
but unfortunately I won't make any detto in this starting point. Although I'm a new
00:40:43.420
fan of farming, when I don't dance between Samsung and Samsung and Samsung will have to be
00:40:48.100
successful in the same time in advance the competition and this season came with me,
00:40:50.940
a group of new CEO. It was a special lesson and we'll do not do on how to deal with that made
00:40:55.420
The info on that show started in, which we made today's fun, whereplayed activity was