Rebel News Podcast - Coronavirus lock-down： Why gender studies professors aren't listed as “essential services”

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today on the podcast, I'm going to take you through Ontario's list of official

00:00:06.220 essential services. These are companies and workers who are allowed to go to work during

00:00:12.040 the lockdown, which by inference means if you're not on the list, you're not considered essential.

00:00:19.900 I can't find any gender studies professors on the list. Maybe it was left off my copy.

00:00:24.480 Anyway, so I'll go through it and I'll give you my thoughts on it. Let me invite you to become a

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00:00:59.100 Tonight, why are there no gender studies professors on the list of essential services

00:01:11.320 during this coronavirus lockdown? It's March 26th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:16.620 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:22.420 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:26.500 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:31.360 right to do so.

00:01:37.900 Much of Canada is a ghost town. Much of the world, too. I mean, there are still cars on the

00:01:43.020 street, but just a fraction, no traffic jams. It's not quite like those TV shows like The

00:01:48.900 Last Man on Earth or that Will Smith movie where it's so barren you can race your car down what

00:01:55.160 used to be traffic jam streets, but it's definitely quieter. Airports, of course, are practically

00:02:01.340 empty. Although, again, Trudeau is still allowing direct flights from China every single day. Like

00:02:09.180 this one from Xiamen, China to Vancouver. It lands. There's no one taking anyone's temperature when it

00:02:16.460 lands. They get brochures in English and French. Hopefully, people from Xiamen speak one of those

00:02:21.980 two languages. It reminds me of when we sent David Menzies to the airport and he interviewed those

00:02:27.680 families getting off the plane from Pakistan. Remember this? Did anyone at border control take

00:02:33.640 your temperature, for example?

00:02:34.740 Yes, they did. When we first landed in Lahore a month ago, they had like a gun that they checked

00:02:39.200 our foreheads.

00:02:40.120 But that was in Pakistan, not here.

00:02:41.720 But not here, no.

00:02:43.160 Is that surprising? Because that's what I heard from people from Karachi, that the airport there

00:02:47.740 was far more strict than it is here.

00:02:50.240 They're just asking questions and people would just lie and say, no, no, no. But over there,

00:02:54.600 they actually checked you. And if anyone had a fever, they would put you to the side.

00:02:59.420 Actually, when we went around 18 days ago, Pakistan with very limited resources, you know,

00:03:06.300 they did check us there at the international airport in Islamabad. They did check our temperatures

00:03:12.500 as well.

00:03:13.880 They actually seemed very conscientious, those passengers, didn't they? They explained how

00:03:18.180 Pakistan, a poor third world country, disorganized, crowded, they're actually more meticulous there

00:03:24.280 than we are here. They're more prepared. They're taking it more seriously than Trudeau is.

00:03:28.920 And really, how hard is it to get some thermometers to take people's temperature? It's not like

00:03:33.100 the olden days where you had to put a mercury thermometer under your tongue and hold it there

00:03:38.500 for a few minutes and squint and try and see the number. These days, you can put a thermometer

00:03:43.980 on someone's head, an electronic thermometer, and push a button and it's almost instant to

00:03:48.760 get a fever reading. How hard is that to hand those out? Why have we not done that yet

00:03:54.500 at any of our airports? Don't ask. So while we let in more flights from China and the world

00:04:00.620 every single day, well, the rest of us are under a version of house arrest. That's why

00:04:06.420 the streets are empty, the schools are empty, even though they don't have to be empty, as

00:04:10.860 Taiwan shows. In Taiwan, they just make their kids wear face masks all day, except lunch where

00:04:16.420 they eat behind those little screens. The whole country of Taiwan, and it's very integrated with

00:04:22.400 China, just two fatalities in all of Taiwan. I mean, of course, each of those deaths is a tragedy,

00:04:29.580 but only two? So yeah, we're hurting ourselves more than the virus is hurting us. I've come to

00:04:36.280 that opinion. So last night at midnight was when the Ontario curfew kicked into effect. It really is

00:04:42.380 like a curfew, but for grownups, for responsible people. And instead of a curfew for teenagers

00:04:48.260 limiting what they can do for fun, this curfew limits what responsible people can do to earn a

00:04:53.480 living. So yeah, the government basically fired everybody, whether they're sick or not, at risk

00:04:58.620 or not, because we haven't screened anyone. We're not stopping foreign flights. We're not even wearing

00:05:03.640 masks. So we're just firing everyone. The opposite of what Taiwan did. Except in Ontario, as with

00:05:10.500 elsewhere, there are lists of exemptions. Funny enough, we're on the list in a few different

00:05:16.500 ways. They allow online services. That's what we do. They allow TV production. That's what we do.

00:05:22.000 Those are considered essential, I guess. But I got to thinking, I sure could use a barber.

00:05:27.700 I know that I could use a barber most of the time. And when I could get a haircut, I hated it and I

00:05:33.200 never went. So this is a tiny bit of karma for me. The one time I want a haircut, I can't get it.

00:05:38.040 But I understand that a haircut is actually a pretty intimate thing in terms of being very

00:05:42.320 close to someone, close to their face, touching them for 20 minutes, being in the range of their

00:05:46.880 breath. And I can imagine that would really be a way to spread the virus. And I can imagine that

00:05:51.580 people could generally go without a haircut for a few weeks. Except the barbers, of course, they can't

00:05:57.540 go a few weeks without haircuts now, can they? I started looking through the list of exemptions

00:06:03.820 of people who are called essential. Let me read it. List of essential workplaces. Essential workplaces

00:06:10.240 in response to COVID-19. If you have questions about what will be open or impacts to your business

00:06:15.580 or employment, call the Stop the Spread business information line at 1-888-444-3659. Now, I phoned that

00:06:23.960 number twice. And neither time I got through. Was it because thousands of people were calling?

00:06:32.780 Who knows? But who's actually even answering on the other end of that line? And what expertise do they

00:06:38.800 have to immediately render a judgment on the phone for a company or a worker to effectively decide whether

00:06:45.400 they live or die? What's the training for that phone answering position? What's their authority? I imagine that

00:06:51.400 different people could describe what they do in two totally different ways. And one would be allowed

00:06:56.700 to live and one would be told to die. By live and die, I don't mean death by the virus. I mean an

00:07:02.440 economic death. Could you send documentation to this line? Could you have a lawyer call for you?

00:07:09.980 If they tell you you have to shut down your business, could you appeal? Come and think of it,

00:07:15.580 who would actually call this line to ask? If you want to work, why not just keep your business open

00:07:21.140 and ask for forgiveness rather than permission? I mean, only if you need to work for a living.

00:07:25.940 I showed you this clip yesterday. Take a look.

00:07:30.440 Chicken in village.

00:07:36.000 Boris Johnson said this. So when Boris Johnson says something, he means it.

00:07:44.600 Boris Johnson said this.

00:07:46.560 Boris Johnson said this. You're not allowed.

00:07:52.520 You can't be serving food anymore.

00:07:56.140 Quarantine. Finish. Close.

00:07:59.720 Close now.

00:08:02.000 Quarantine. Quar-ing-fucking-teen.

00:08:06.260 Not teen porn. Quarantine.

00:08:10.480 Finish.

00:08:10.800 Who was that angry man telling those people to close up their shop?

00:08:16.120 A man who happened to bring a camera crew with them, or at least a friend with a phone,

00:08:20.200 and said, film this.

00:08:22.040 A man who himself didn't have a mask on, but claimed to really, really care about this.

00:08:26.360 And what were those lads inside doing wrong exactly?

00:08:29.160 They didn't have tables and chairs out.

00:08:30.920 It was clearly just a takeout chicken shop.

00:08:33.720 Can people not eat? Can people not serve people who want to eat?

00:08:40.460 Where did that busybody get his lunch or dinner from?

00:08:44.120 Is he a farmer or something?

00:08:46.740 My feelings are shifting on this story, but today my point is,

00:08:50.740 who is considered essential and who isn't?

00:08:53.780 Who is really important and who isn't?

00:08:56.020 I know that a bunch of celebrities made a really cringeworthy, no-make-up, out-of-tune sing-along

00:09:03.060 of John Lennon's Imagine Terrible Song, and they sung it terribly,

00:09:07.300 but they were so pleased with themselves.

00:09:09.220 It was so weird.

00:09:09.920 There was no message to it, no donations for the cause,

00:09:13.140 not even advice like an admonition to stay quarantined,

00:09:16.480 just a giant, please look at me, please pay attention to us moment,

00:09:19.900 because those celebrities, most of them B-listers, C-listers,

00:09:23.660 realized that they're not essential.

00:09:27.000 Am I right?

00:09:28.380 Same with Greta Thunberg, who felt the need to tell us that,

00:09:32.020 no, she doesn't have the virus.

00:09:34.620 She didn't even go to the doctor to check.

00:09:36.380 In fact, her symptoms are very mild.

00:09:38.420 She barely even noticed them, but hey, everybody, look at me.

00:09:41.120 Hey, look at me.

00:09:42.160 No, no, Greta, you're not essential, are you?

00:09:45.380 We all sort of forgot about you.

00:09:47.900 No one cares.

00:09:48.640 Here's a video that was broadcast at a Super Bowl a while back,

00:09:53.860 a few years ago.

00:09:54.660 It's a video built around an old Paul Harvey radio short.

00:09:57.940 I think it was an ad for pickup trucks,

00:10:00.480 but the point is, you can see the point in a second.

00:10:03.260 Now, you tell me, who is more essential?

00:10:07.600 Those actresses and singers, Gal Gadot and Jimmy Fallon

00:10:10.860 and Greta Thunberg, or these anonymous people in this little ad?

00:10:17.440 And on the eighth day, God looked down on his planned paradise

00:10:23.760 and said, I need a caretaker.

00:10:26.200 So God made a farmer.

00:10:30.580 God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn,

00:10:33.360 milk cows, work all day in the fields, milk cows again,

00:10:36.000 eat supper, then go to town and stay past midnight

00:10:38.300 at a meeting of the school board.

00:10:39.680 So God made a farmer.

00:10:42.100 God said, I need somebody willing to sit up all night

00:10:44.340 with a newborn colt and watch it die,

00:10:48.180 then dry his eyes and say, maybe next year.

00:10:51.360 I need somebody who can shape an axe handle

00:10:53.360 from a persimmon sprout,

00:10:54.940 shoe a horse with a hunk of car tire,

00:10:57.120 who can make harness out of hay wire feed sacks

00:10:59.100 and shoe scraps,

00:11:00.640 who planting time and harvest season

00:11:02.280 will finish his 40-hour week by Tuesday noon

00:11:04.480 and then paint in from tractor back,

00:11:06.000 put in another 72 hours.

00:11:07.500 So God made a farmer.

00:11:09.740 God said, I need somebody strong enough

00:11:11.820 to clear trees and heave bales,

00:11:14.020 yet gentle enough to yeen lambs and wean pigs

00:11:16.520 and tend to pink-combed pullets

00:11:18.100 who will stop his mower for an hour

00:11:19.700 to splint the broken leg of a meadowlark.

00:11:22.420 So God made a farmer.

00:11:25.360 It had to be somebody who'd plow deep and straight

00:11:27.940 and not cut corners,

00:11:29.200 somebody to seed, weed, feed, breed,

00:11:31.380 and rake and disc and plow and plant

00:11:33.100 and tie the fleece and strain the milk,

00:11:35.480 somebody who'd bale a family together

00:11:37.180 with the soft, strong bonds of sharing,

00:11:39.840 who would laugh and then sigh

00:11:41.980 and then reply with smiling eyes

00:11:46.300 when his son says

00:11:48.860 that he wants to spend his life

00:11:51.540 doing what Dad does.

00:11:56.220 So God made a farmer.

00:11:58.480 Yeah, I know who I could live without

00:12:01.080 if it came down to choosing

00:12:02.800 between celebrities or farmers.

00:12:07.180 I'm not going to go through everyone

00:12:09.440 on the list of essential workers.

00:12:11.800 It's a very long list.

00:12:13.360 Here's a summary of them.

00:12:14.540 I'll sort of go through it

00:12:15.440 and I'll read some details.

00:12:16.680 Supply chains.

00:12:17.720 What's that?

00:12:18.540 That's basically getting everything

00:12:20.080 from where it's made to us,

00:12:22.380 from farm to fork,

00:12:23.640 as it's sometimes said,

00:12:24.720 from factory to you.

00:12:25.940 Trucks, trains, warehouses,

00:12:28.040 hardworking guys, packages,

00:12:29.980 that whole thing.

00:12:32.240 Retail and wholesaling.

00:12:34.520 This is detailed later on

00:12:36.500 on the memo as food,

00:12:38.800 household items,

00:12:39.580 including pet food, smart.

00:12:41.920 Things like consumer products

00:12:44.340 necessary to maintain the safety,

00:12:46.560 sanitation, and essential operations

00:12:48.240 of residences and businesses.

00:12:50.820 They also include liquor and marijuana

00:12:53.160 in the list.

00:12:54.040 Things like hardware stores,

00:12:55.180 obviously.

00:12:56.820 Auto mechanics.

00:12:58.920 Obviously gas stations.

00:13:01.640 Businesses that supply

00:13:02.760 office products and services,

00:13:04.360 including providing computer related,

00:13:06.560 sorry, computer products

00:13:07.580 and related repair

00:13:08.220 and maintenance services.

00:13:09.020 Makes sense.

00:13:10.040 And we all need those things

00:13:11.100 to operate.

00:13:12.880 Food services and accommodations.

00:13:15.000 Pretty self-explanatory.

00:13:17.220 Institutional, residential, commercial,

00:13:19.260 and industrial maintenance.

00:13:20.560 Yeah, exactly.

00:13:21.540 You can't have things break down.

00:13:22.880 You want things to be clean?

00:13:25.280 Isn't that the case?

00:13:26.100 These days, a janitor

00:13:27.600 who knows how to do a deep clean

00:13:31.040 to disinfect something

00:13:32.940 is more useful than,

00:13:34.980 oh, say, a gender studies professor.

00:13:39.220 It's actually a huge list

00:13:40.740 because it's so particular.

00:13:42.160 I'll just skim some of the headings.

00:13:44.320 Telecommunications and IT infrastructure

00:13:46.780 service providers.

00:13:48.280 Transportation.

00:13:49.880 Manufacturing and production.

00:13:51.140 Agriculture and food production.

00:13:54.040 Construction.

00:13:54.720 It's a good point.

00:13:55.560 Construction is a huge industry.

00:13:58.200 We need to build things.

00:13:59.200 Places to live.

00:14:00.240 Places to work.

00:14:00.880 Road construction.

00:14:01.720 Mines, whatever.

00:14:02.460 It's just too important

00:14:03.360 to shut it down.

00:14:04.200 Some construction projects

00:14:05.240 can't be shut down

00:14:06.520 without doing devastating damage

00:14:08.380 to the progress of the building.

00:14:09.660 And more to the point,

00:14:10.320 imagine how many families

00:14:11.280 depend on those workers

00:14:12.260 to earn a living.

00:14:14.220 Financial activities.

00:14:15.180 Fair enough.

00:14:16.320 Resources.

00:14:16.860 I like this one.

00:14:18.540 Mines, oil, gas, forestry, etc.

00:14:20.480 It's all systems go for those.

00:14:22.220 Of course it is.

00:14:23.280 Do you think we'd even be able

00:14:24.240 to survive in Canada

00:14:26.060 without natural resources?

00:14:27.640 Without oil and gas

00:14:28.580 and fossil fuels?

00:14:29.540 You know, you can't spell

00:14:30.600 pandemic without the word panic, right?

00:14:33.160 If you look at it.

00:14:35.000 You want to see what real panic

00:14:36.420 would look like?

00:14:38.380 Imagine no cars.

00:14:40.100 No natural gas

00:14:40.900 to heat your home or cook.

00:14:42.380 No fossil fuel generated electricity.

00:14:44.500 No gas-fired power plants.

00:14:45.860 That would be a panic.

00:14:46.820 Even though that's the future

00:14:49.640 that the Gretas of the world want.

00:14:52.860 Environmental services.

00:14:54.280 That's like cleanups of spills.

00:14:57.540 Utilities and community services.

00:14:59.280 That's everything

00:14:59.760 from your garbage collector,

00:15:02.080 garbage man,

00:15:02.740 to water and power companies,

00:15:04.440 to your home.

00:15:04.940 It specifically includes

00:15:06.220 things like prisons and courts.

00:15:09.340 Communications industries.

00:15:11.680 They say communications industries

00:15:13.460 are essential.

00:15:14.080 And I think they're right.

00:15:15.980 How do we know

00:15:16.440 what's going on in the world?

00:15:17.260 How do we know the news

00:15:18.020 about the virus,

00:15:18.680 about the response to it,

00:15:19.600 and about how our politicians

00:15:20.860 are failing?

00:15:21.740 It's no surprise

00:15:22.700 that Justin Trudeau

00:15:23.740 just announced a new

00:15:24.660 multi-million dollar bribe

00:15:26.040 for journalists.

00:15:27.900 Even liberal journalists

00:15:29.160 are starting to see

00:15:29.840 how awful he is

00:15:30.800 at actually leading

00:15:31.700 during a time of crisis.

00:15:33.360 Better slop a little bit more cash

00:15:35.480 on them in another bailout.

00:15:38.460 Research.

00:15:39.500 This includes medical research.

00:15:40.940 I can imagine that

00:15:41.880 just stopping any medical research

00:15:43.820 midstream could wreck it.

00:15:45.660 More to the point,

00:15:46.320 we probably need research now

00:15:47.680 more than ever about the virus.

00:15:49.980 Healthcare and seniors' care

00:15:51.560 and social services.

00:15:53.260 Obviously, healthcare is exempt

00:15:54.780 from the work ban,

00:15:56.460 including seniors' homes.

00:15:58.180 Interestingly,

00:15:58.800 they emphasize exemptions

00:15:59.920 for emergency healthcare

00:16:01.840 of all sorts,

00:16:02.900 but not routine

00:16:04.220 or elective medicine.

00:16:05.840 Let me read.

00:16:06.640 Healthcare professionals

00:16:07.540 providing emergency care,

00:16:08.760 including dentists,

00:16:10.280 optometrists,

00:16:11.140 and physiotherapists.

00:16:13.040 Hmm.

00:16:14.540 Let me read the justice sector.

00:16:16.280 The courts are still open,

00:16:17.360 of course.

00:16:17.880 We can't descend

00:16:19.060 into utter lawlessness,

00:16:20.240 but only urgent matters,

00:16:22.260 which suggests that perhaps

00:16:24.220 we have a few too many lawyers

00:16:25.500 and a bit too much litigation

00:16:26.900 in regular times.

00:16:28.500 I believe that.

00:16:30.200 Then they have a catch-all

00:16:31.280 that I find interesting.

00:16:32.340 Let me read this.

00:16:33.380 Other businesses,

00:16:35.140 car rentals, couriers,

00:16:36.440 laundromats,

00:16:36.880 and dry cleaners and laundries.

00:16:39.320 I say again,

00:16:40.020 I don't see any peace

00:16:41.160 and conflict studies groups there.

00:16:42.940 I don't see any

00:16:43.540 transgender lobbyists there.

00:16:45.840 I don't see any of the things

00:16:47.240 that our society is obsessed with

00:16:48.900 in peacetime.

00:16:51.100 But if you're a security guard,

00:16:53.240 of course you're important

00:16:54.660 in the real world now.

00:16:56.060 If you're a check cashing company

00:16:58.080 on the corner,

00:16:58.640 of course you're important

00:16:59.520 in the real world.

00:17:01.940 There were a few government agencies

00:17:03.680 on the list,

00:17:04.600 as well there should be police.

00:17:05.960 Police and courts

00:17:07.680 are the instruments of the state

00:17:09.480 and we need them.

00:17:11.500 But really the list

00:17:12.400 is a comprehensive description

00:17:13.860 of most blue-collar jobs

00:17:16.980 and a few truly necessary

00:17:19.480 white-collar professions.

00:17:22.340 I don't mean to say

00:17:23.340 that anyone should

00:17:24.420 be ordered not to work.

00:17:27.700 If you work in a retail clothing store

00:17:29.700 selling high fashion in a mall,

00:17:32.020 you have as much right

00:17:33.720 to work as anyone.

00:17:35.040 Any work is dignified,

00:17:36.360 as the good book says,

00:17:37.380 in the sweat of thy face

00:17:39.240 shalt thou eat bread.

00:17:41.500 Any work is good.

00:17:43.940 But it's a reminder

00:17:44.860 of what's a luxury

00:17:45.860 and what's essential

00:17:47.420 when the chips are down

00:17:49.020 and who we really need

00:17:51.160 to make our civilization work,

00:17:53.800 especially in a crisis,

00:17:54.940 and who we really don't need.

00:17:56.800 Not a lot of politicians

00:17:59.420 on the list, is there?

00:18:01.480 But I do see in the news, though,

00:18:03.380 that Canada's MPs and senators

00:18:05.440 managed to give themselves

00:18:06.340 a $2.5 million pay raise

00:18:07.980 that will just coincidentally

00:18:10.060 kick in next week.

00:18:13.580 929,000 Canadians

00:18:15.420 who aren't on the list above,

00:18:17.020 or more likely,

00:18:18.780 who want to work

00:18:20.060 but were laid off,

00:18:21.320 whether they're restaurant waiters

00:18:22.980 or flight attendants

00:18:24.240 or hotel staff.

00:18:26.020 Yeah, they'd like a raise, too,

00:18:27.600 because they're getting

00:18:28.160 zero right now.

00:18:31.180 Alas, they're just not

00:18:32.160 the ultimate essential workers

00:18:34.280 in the minds

00:18:35.320 of our politicians,

00:18:36.480 the politicians themselves

00:18:38.580 who will always,

00:18:40.120 always take care

00:18:41.800 of themselves first.

00:18:43.700 Am I right?

00:18:45.260 Stay with us for more.

00:18:52.980 Hey, remember a few weeks ago

00:18:59.880 when we had an author on

00:19:01.560 who's got the authoritative book

00:19:04.580 on Ilhan Omar?

00:19:07.060 She, of course,

00:19:07.840 is the radical Islamist Democrat

00:19:11.080 from the state of Minnesota

00:19:13.320 who's taken the country by storm.

00:19:15.080 She's part of The Squad,

00:19:16.840 the book,

00:19:17.420 and I just finally received mine

00:19:18.840 from Amazon.

00:19:19.760 It's called American Ingrate,

00:19:22.560 and I tell you that

00:19:23.400 because I recommend it

00:19:24.520 if you're looking for something

00:19:25.900 to while away the time

00:19:27.240 in self-isolation

00:19:28.680 and you're getting a little sick

00:19:30.480 of watching Netflix.

00:19:33.060 It is the definitive takedown

00:19:35.680 of Ilhan Omar,

00:19:36.980 very timely.

00:19:38.180 And the reason I mention that today

00:19:39.600 is because the author

00:19:41.140 of that book,

00:19:41.840 Benjamin Weingarten,

00:19:43.280 talks about other things, too,

00:19:45.700 and, of course,

00:19:46.340 I follow him online

00:19:48.480 at thefederalist.com

00:19:50.180 where he has a new essay

00:19:51.900 called Five Major Paradigm Shifts,

00:19:55.940 The Wuhan Flu Crisis

00:19:57.740 Has Revealed Americans' Need.

00:20:00.360 And he joins us now

00:20:01.660 from his home via Skype.

00:20:04.060 Well, Benjamin,

00:20:04.700 thanks very much

00:20:05.320 for seeing us again

00:20:06.280 and congrats again

00:20:07.060 on the book.

00:20:08.060 I recommend it.

00:20:09.240 It's, you know what,

00:20:10.380 after a while,

00:20:10.840 you get sick of watching movies

00:20:12.000 and you want to have something

00:20:13.760 that's not a screen

00:20:15.200 and something that makes you smarter,

00:20:16.960 not dumber,

00:20:17.740 like a lot of the movies

00:20:18.820 I've been watching.

00:20:21.040 Well, Ezra,

00:20:21.820 I really appreciate it.

00:20:23.660 And the book's thesis

00:20:25.000 is actually playing out

00:20:26.240 in real time right now

00:20:27.520 because Ilhan Omar

00:20:28.980 is trying to use,

00:20:30.180 on top of all the other things

00:20:31.420 that those on the left

00:20:32.320 are trying to use,

00:20:33.180 the Chinese coronavirus crisis

00:20:35.060 to advance,

00:20:36.520 to advance lifting sanctions

00:20:38.080 on Iran

00:20:39.580 under the guise

00:20:40.540 of this crisis.

00:20:41.740 So the book's thesis

00:20:42.500 is playing out in real time

00:20:43.700 and she's proving to be

00:20:44.880 a danger to this country

00:20:46.140 and putting America last

00:20:48.280 and our worst adversaries first.

00:20:50.380 Yeah, that's no surprise.

00:20:52.700 Well, I want to shift gears.

00:20:54.340 I mean, I wanted to mention

00:20:55.100 the book because it's,

00:20:56.360 and as I said to you

00:20:57.500 when we spoke last time,

00:20:58.700 it's just the perfect title.

00:21:00.200 She absolutely

00:21:01.400 is the definition

00:21:03.520 of ingrate,

00:21:04.440 her treatment of America

00:21:05.620 and her fellow Americans.

00:21:08.760 But this coronavirus,

00:21:11.920 or as Donald Trump calls it,

00:21:13.060 the Chinese virus,

00:21:14.240 or as you call it,

00:21:14.840 the Wuhan flu crisis.

00:21:17.040 And I think all of that

00:21:18.140 is appropriate.

00:21:19.240 I think it's terrible.

00:21:22.420 It's devastating to the economy.

00:21:24.020 So far, it has not yet

00:21:25.560 been devastating

00:21:26.920 in terms of health

00:21:28.500 and loss of life.

00:21:29.480 I'm not saying that any

00:21:30.700 quantum of deaths

00:21:32.400 is acceptable,

00:21:33.340 but I mean,

00:21:35.280 every death is a tragedy,

00:21:36.700 but it has not yet

00:21:37.900 been the devastating pandemic

00:21:40.640 many have feared it would be.

00:21:42.020 Hopefully it won't.

00:21:43.340 But it has revealed

00:21:44.280 a lot of problems

00:21:45.340 in the way we do things.

00:21:47.900 And you've made a list

00:21:49.020 of five changes

00:21:50.460 to how Americans,

00:21:52.140 and I think most of these

00:21:52.940 apply to Canada too,

00:21:54.440 have to think,

00:21:55.100 can we bang through them?

00:21:56.580 You got five of them.

00:21:57.620 The first one,

00:21:58.540 I think is sort of obvious,

00:22:00.180 and I know you do too,

00:22:01.100 but a lot of people

00:22:01.760 have been in denial.

00:22:02.520 It's communist China

00:22:04.460 is a global menace.

00:22:06.360 How would a paradigm shift look

00:22:08.400 now that we know that's true?

00:22:11.200 Well, I think the first point

00:22:12.960 would be that we essentially

00:22:14.800 need to unwind

00:22:16.380 the integration of China.

00:22:19.760 And when I say China,

00:22:21.160 I mean the Chinese Communist Party

00:22:22.800 and the entities

00:22:23.520 that it controls,

00:22:24.460 which is essentially

00:22:25.060 all of the entities

00:22:26.020 in that country.

00:22:26.800 from the global political system,

00:22:30.440 the global economic system,

00:22:32.160 we essentially need to undo

00:22:33.580 the globalist paradigm

00:22:34.900 in particular

00:22:35.860 when it comes to

00:22:37.080 putting ourselves

00:22:38.620 at the mercy

00:22:39.580 of this adversarial,

00:22:41.940 hostile regime.

00:22:42.880 And so this goes for America

00:22:44.140 and the rest of the free world

00:22:45.580 as well.

00:22:46.240 That starts with decoupling

00:22:48.340 from the Chinese Communist Party

00:22:50.260 in every strategically

00:22:51.660 significant sector.

00:22:52.960 And that has been shown

00:22:54.160 in most crystal terms,

00:22:55.780 in this case,

00:22:56.740 in terms of the Chinese

00:22:57.640 Communist Party

00:22:58.340 through one of its

00:22:59.180 English-language propaganda

00:23:00.840 publications,

00:23:02.020 threatening to cut off

00:23:03.040 the availability

00:23:03.700 of essential medical supplies.

00:23:05.880 In other words,

00:23:06.620 we're putting our life

00:23:07.760 and limb,

00:23:08.260 our fate,

00:23:08.900 in the hands

00:23:09.320 of a hostile adversary.

00:23:10.640 And that is simply suicidal.

00:23:12.740 Yeah.

00:23:13.040 I think they poisoned us

00:23:14.460 and now they're threatening

00:23:15.380 to withhold the medicine

00:23:16.520 to that same poison.

00:23:18.880 It is insane

00:23:20.240 that China produces

00:23:21.960 so many of the meds

00:23:22.840 for the West.

00:23:23.460 And I see that

00:23:24.040 American pharmaceutical companies

00:23:25.460 are squawking

00:23:26.640 about Trump's

00:23:27.960 strong suggestion

00:23:29.760 that they repatriate

00:23:30.900 their factories.

00:23:32.780 Why?

00:23:33.620 I mean,

00:23:34.140 really,

00:23:34.520 are they saving

00:23:35.260 5% or 10%?

00:23:37.080 It's so trivial,

00:23:40.500 the financial savings

00:23:41.700 per pill,

00:23:42.480 let's say,

00:23:43.460 and the devastating costs

00:23:45.260 of this virus

00:23:46.460 and everything else

00:23:48.220 ought to make us realize

00:23:49.780 that that's a fool's errand

00:23:51.780 to try and save

00:23:52.640 a few bucks

00:23:53.320 but invite all these

00:23:55.280 other Chinese

00:23:56.060 communist problems

00:23:56.940 into our own homes.

00:23:57.660 Let me move on

00:23:58.080 to the next point

00:23:58.620 that's very closely related.

00:24:00.740 Coronavirus starkly illustrates

00:24:02.560 globalism's downside.

00:24:05.300 You have a special emphasis

00:24:06.180 here on the World Health Organization.

00:24:08.660 They've been liars

00:24:10.560 on this

00:24:11.240 the whole time through.

00:24:13.200 Give us a bit

00:24:13.760 of a rundown

00:24:14.620 of their boss,

00:24:16.360 Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

00:24:19.660 I don't know

00:24:20.000 if I'm saying that right.

00:24:21.500 He's the boss

00:24:22.220 of the World Health Organization.

00:24:23.780 He was chosen by China,

00:24:25.140 wasn't he?

00:24:26.740 It appears that China

00:24:28.340 backed his campaign

00:24:30.740 to run the WHO,

00:24:32.520 which it bears noting

00:24:33.340 is an organ

00:24:34.860 of the United Nations,

00:24:36.600 the globalist institution,

00:24:39.160 our excellence.

00:24:40.740 And he not only

00:24:41.960 has been tied to China

00:24:43.380 through its backing

00:24:44.280 of him at the WHO,

00:24:45.340 but he previously served,

00:24:46.880 I believe,

00:24:47.460 as health minister

00:24:48.320 in Ethiopia.

00:24:50.020 Ethiopia,

00:24:50.980 and in particular

00:24:51.800 its health sector,

00:24:52.900 are inextricably

00:24:54.160 intertwined with China,

00:24:56.160 it's my understanding,

00:24:56.940 their substantial relations

00:24:58.520 between the two countries.

00:25:00.240 And consequently,

00:25:01.340 I would suggest

00:25:01.960 all you have to do

00:25:02.680 is look at the statements

00:25:03.640 that come out of the WHO,

00:25:05.740 favorable toward

00:25:06.700 the Chinese Communist Party

00:25:07.980 and Xi,

00:25:09.220 claiming,

00:25:09.860 appraising them

00:25:10.700 for their leadership

00:25:11.720 during this crisis,

00:25:13.160 saying originally

00:25:13.980 that it appeared

00:25:14.720 this was not

00:25:15.380 a human-to-human

00:25:16.240 transmitted virus,

00:25:17.320 essentially propagating

00:25:19.700 Chinese Communist Party

00:25:20.920 propaganda,

00:25:21.920 which directly correlated

00:25:23.520 with the spread,

00:25:24.740 the metastasization

00:25:25.780 of this pandemic

00:25:26.700 the world over.

00:25:28.580 So again,

00:25:29.220 the corruption

00:25:29.840 of global institutions

00:25:31.220 by their work

00:25:32.580 with the Chinese Communist Party

00:25:34.060 has real consequences

00:25:35.520 for the life

00:25:36.500 and limb of the West.

00:25:37.980 On top of,

00:25:38.860 of course,

00:25:39.300 again,

00:25:39.860 these global supply chains

00:25:41.320 that put us

00:25:42.340 at the mercy

00:25:42.920 of the Chinese Communist Party,

00:25:44.400 and even the open borders

00:25:45.780 strategy,

00:25:46.720 and in many instances,

00:25:48.060 and Secretary of State

00:25:49.220 Pompeo said this,

00:25:50.960 the Chinese Communist Party

00:25:52.060 threatened those countries,

00:25:53.460 for example,

00:25:54.140 I believe in Europe,

00:25:55.360 not to impose

00:25:56.400 travel bans from China

00:25:57.840 when, of course,

00:25:58.540 this was being spread

00:25:59.480 from China.

00:26:01.120 So again,

00:26:01.620 we see the corruption

00:26:02.540 of every aspect

00:26:03.580 of our lives,

00:26:04.300 essentially,

00:26:05.220 by this inextricably

00:26:06.380 intertwined relationship

00:26:07.500 with the Chinese Communist Party

00:26:09.200 that has proven

00:26:09.940 disastrous

00:26:10.600 to the West.

00:26:11.300 Yeah,

00:26:12.160 you know,

00:26:12.980 it's ironic

00:26:14.020 that one of the countries

00:26:15.240 most marginalized

00:26:17.000 and abused

00:26:18.280 by the United Nations

00:26:19.640 and its constituent agencies

00:26:21.500 like the World Health Organization

00:26:22.880 is Taiwan.

00:26:24.580 As you know,

00:26:25.260 some decades ago,

00:26:26.260 Taiwan,

00:26:27.020 or the Republic of China,

00:26:28.820 was thrown out

00:26:30.000 and Communist China

00:26:31.120 was welcomed in.

00:26:32.540 And because of that,

00:26:34.520 Taiwan has been sidelined

00:26:36.220 from the World Health Organization.

00:26:37.720 And that was disastrous

00:26:38.720 in the past,

00:26:40.140 the SARS outbreak,

00:26:41.380 et cetera.

00:26:42.040 But they learned

00:26:43.320 to get along

00:26:44.140 without the World Health Organization.

00:26:46.160 They learned not to trust

00:26:47.840 the World Health Organization.

00:26:50.120 They knew they had to do it

00:26:51.420 on their own.

00:26:52.480 And I put it to you,

00:26:53.740 and I'm just thinking of this

00:26:55.120 as we're discussing this,

00:26:57.000 that perhaps the fact

00:26:58.080 that Taiwan

00:26:58.680 was forcibly ejected

00:27:01.480 from the central globalist instrument,

00:27:04.100 the United Nations,

00:27:05.180 is the reason why,

00:27:07.200 last I checked,

00:27:07.960 they only had two deaths

00:27:10.320 from coronavirus,

00:27:11.620 very few infections,

00:27:12.940 even though they're

00:27:13.520 right next to China,

00:27:15.280 integrated with China

00:27:16.320 in a number of ways.

00:27:17.300 800,000 Taiwanese people

00:27:19.560 live in China,

00:27:20.720 almost half a million

00:27:21.460 work in China,

00:27:22.520 and yet they managed

00:27:23.840 to stop the virus

00:27:25.240 because they knew

00:27:26.520 you can't trust

00:27:27.840 the World Health Organization.

00:27:29.200 I think that's proof

00:27:30.720 that...

00:27:32.480 You're absolutely right.

00:27:34.540 Taiwan's response

00:27:35.560 has been the model

00:27:37.000 for what the global response

00:27:38.920 should have been.

00:27:40.260 Taiwan understands

00:27:41.240 the nature of the

00:27:41.980 Chinese Communist Party

00:27:43.140 and those bureaus

00:27:44.920 around the world

00:27:45.640 that it has,

00:27:46.980 in some cases,

00:27:48.340 poisoned.

00:27:49.020 At your core point,

00:27:50.480 I think bears reiterating,

00:27:52.420 which is,

00:27:53.060 all of these countries

00:27:53.840 around the world

00:27:54.480 were put to a choice.

00:27:56.280 Do I have diplomatic relations

00:27:57.720 with Taiwan

00:27:58.620 and then no relationship

00:27:59.720 with China

00:28:00.360 and be shut out

00:28:01.180 of China's market,

00:28:01.940 or do I choose China

00:28:03.420 over what would have been

00:28:04.600 the right choice?

00:28:06.100 And even the U.S.

00:28:07.020 doesn't have formal

00:28:08.220 diplomatic relations

00:28:09.560 with Taiwan

00:28:10.140 because of the China relationship.

00:28:11.740 It, again,

00:28:12.100 just shows you

00:28:12.680 how they poison,

00:28:14.440 really,

00:28:15.040 our global peace

00:28:15.960 and prosperity

00:28:16.560 in many ways.

00:28:17.260 And I think you're

00:28:17.740 absolutely right.

00:28:18.760 Taiwan is far better off

00:28:19.980 because it is more independent

00:28:21.220 of these very organizations

00:28:22.600 that China has been influencing

00:28:24.360 for all these decades.

00:28:25.740 Not just more independent,

00:28:26.940 but they know

00:28:27.740 the World Health Organization lies.

00:28:30.460 They know it.

00:28:31.220 They know they're malicious.

00:28:32.800 We in Canada

00:28:33.960 and probably in the United States

00:28:34.920 think,

00:28:35.240 oh,

00:28:35.400 World Health Organization

00:28:36.280 sounds like good guys

00:28:37.840 because we don't know

00:28:39.280 how political,

00:28:40.800 partisan,

00:28:41.220 and malicious they are.

00:28:41.980 Taiwan knows.

00:28:42.660 Okay,

00:28:42.820 let's keep cracking.

00:28:44.040 Number three,

00:28:44.620 we must establish principles

00:28:45.960 for dealing with crises.

00:28:47.880 Now,

00:28:48.180 that's a pretty general statement.

00:28:51.220 Explain what you mean.

00:28:52.300 It's the longest point,

00:28:53.980 I think,

00:28:54.260 in your essay.

00:28:55.960 My main point here

00:28:57.400 is simply this,

00:28:58.720 and I'm saying this,

00:28:59.700 and I wrote this piece

00:29:00.660 before we found out

00:29:01.980 that the Imperial College study

00:29:04.500 out of the U.K.,

00:29:05.940 which projected that

00:29:06.960 in the best-case scenario

00:29:08.220 with the most draconian measures,

00:29:10.280 we'd have something

00:29:10.820 on the order of 1.1

00:29:12.060 to 1.2 million deaths

00:29:13.440 in the U.S.

00:29:14.900 and hundreds of thousands

00:29:15.740 of deaths in the U.K.,

00:29:16.700 has now been completely

00:29:17.780 revised downward.

00:29:19.320 Yet that study

00:29:20.180 was the basis,

00:29:21.200 largely,

00:29:21.800 of the dramatic response

00:29:23.140 that we've seen

00:29:23.720 in the United States

00:29:24.780 and elsewhere.

00:29:25.260 My point being,

00:29:26.780 we have made

00:29:27.300 these massive

00:29:28.160 societal sacrifices,

00:29:30.200 knowingly doing

00:29:31.360 devastating economic damage

00:29:34.020 that is going to last

00:29:35.160 many months

00:29:36.260 and probably years

00:29:37.400 beyond this crisis

00:29:39.040 on the basis

00:29:39.940 of flimsy data,

00:29:42.440 shoddy data,

00:29:43.440 much of which

00:29:44.080 has come from China,

00:29:45.900 which, of course,

00:29:46.580 has sought to cover this up

00:29:47.680 and been dishonest

00:29:48.560 with numbers

00:29:49.080 in every realm

00:29:50.080 historically.

00:29:51.060 And that shoddy data

00:29:53.220 has led, consequently,

00:29:54.620 to garbage out

00:29:55.960 of the models

00:29:56.780 that use that data

00:29:58.100 to project deaths

00:29:59.380 and casualties

00:30:00.100 and symptomatic

00:30:01.600 versus asymptomatic population.

00:30:04.100 Is it a rational thing

00:30:05.820 for us in the West

00:30:07.000 to be making these

00:30:08.660 potentially catastrophic decisions

00:30:10.980 where our governments

00:30:12.160 essentially break the legs

00:30:13.680 of business owners

00:30:14.620 and then have to bail

00:30:15.720 all of them out

00:30:16.440 on the basis

00:30:17.280 of shoddy data

00:30:18.860 and thus the garbage

00:30:20.260 that comes out

00:30:20.960 of the models

00:30:21.480 on which the data

00:30:22.220 is based?

00:30:23.040 That just does simply

00:30:24.020 not seem like

00:30:24.960 a rational policy

00:30:26.000 for the West

00:30:26.620 or anyone for that.

00:30:27.900 Yeah, and every word

00:30:29.560 you said there

00:30:30.220 about the pandemic

00:30:31.280 could equally be applied

00:30:32.940 to the theory

00:30:33.560 of man-made global warming,

00:30:34.660 I put it to you.

00:30:36.080 Point four,

00:30:36.960 the GOP,

00:30:37.800 the Republican Party,

00:30:38.600 needs a real response

00:30:39.920 for Democrats' games.

00:30:41.820 I presume that the,

00:30:44.580 I mean,

00:30:44.900 you mean the procedural games,

00:30:46.840 the trying to salt bills

00:30:50.020 with all sorts of perks

00:30:51.340 for friends

00:30:52.220 and constituent groups,

00:30:53.420 is that what you mean?

00:30:55.180 I think it is stunning to me

00:30:57.880 how befuddled so many,

00:31:00.100 both elected officials

00:31:01.240 in the Republican Party

00:31:02.320 and even commentators as well

00:31:04.500 are so stunned

00:31:05.380 that Democrats

00:31:06.280 would cynically

00:31:07.020 and shamefully

00:31:08.340 extort the country,

00:31:09.620 essentially,

00:31:10.520 to try to put forth

00:31:11.420 as temporary measures

00:31:12.720 their most leftist policies

00:31:15.020 so that ultimately

00:31:15.940 when we get out

00:31:16.700 of the crisis mode,

00:31:18.180 they can then make them

00:31:19.060 permanent and impose

00:31:20.120 the agenda that they want

00:31:21.340 in environmentalism,

00:31:23.080 in criminal justice,

00:31:24.660 in the healthcare system,

00:31:25.880 in every other facet

00:31:26.900 of our lives,

00:31:27.420 in immigration.

00:31:28.920 So what I suggest is

00:31:30.620 this reflects the fact

00:31:31.640 that many on the right

00:31:33.380 do not fundamentally

00:31:34.900 understand the nature

00:31:36.020 of their political opponent,

00:31:37.440 which seeks to use

00:31:38.360 every possible avenue

00:31:40.180 it has

00:31:40.920 to impose its agenda

00:31:42.360 upon us.

00:31:43.100 And my response would be

00:31:44.980 where is the Republican response

00:31:46.980 in kind of,

00:31:48.520 okay,

00:31:48.660 if you're going to try

00:31:49.260 to foster your leftist agenda,

00:31:51.180 well,

00:31:51.340 where's our agenda

00:31:52.180 in terms of completely

00:31:53.120 opening up the economy

00:31:54.180 so that when we do

00:31:55.040 recover from this,

00:31:56.280 we not only return

00:31:57.140 to the kind of economic growth

00:31:58.380 we had seen,

00:31:59.160 but economic growth

00:31:59.900 actually accelerates

00:32:00.860 far beyond it.

00:32:01.980 The fact that Republicans

00:32:02.880 wouldn't even think that way

00:32:04.540 shows you that Democrats

00:32:05.800 are going to eat our lunch

00:32:07.080 most of the time.

00:32:09.060 Yeah.

00:32:09.680 I was just thinking

00:32:10.860 earlier today

00:32:11.460 about how the list

00:32:13.520 of essential services

00:32:14.580 to Ontario,

00:32:15.380 where we are,

00:32:16.400 is on lockdown

00:32:17.200 as are other jurisdictions.

00:32:18.880 I think one of the

00:32:19.620 more hopeful things

00:32:21.180 that could come from this

00:32:22.400 is a gazillion parents

00:32:24.060 and students

00:32:24.860 can realize

00:32:25.780 that they can learn

00:32:26.860 either at home

00:32:29.640 or by remote

00:32:30.400 or from a YouTube-based school

00:32:33.720 and that a lot

00:32:34.980 of the government-run schools,

00:32:37.640 the student loan debt,

00:32:39.080 the super-priced colleges

00:32:41.300 may be something

00:32:42.080 that we don't quite need.

00:32:43.460 I don't know,

00:32:43.800 that's a little bit

00:32:44.380 of hopefulness on my part.

00:32:45.760 Your last point

00:32:46.640 is basically getting

00:32:49.140 the fiscal situation

00:32:51.780 in order.

00:32:53.000 I see talk of the U.S. bailout,

00:32:56.060 three, four, five,

00:32:56.920 six trillion dollars,

00:32:58.280 a staggering sum of money.

00:33:00.220 My first thought was,

00:33:01.020 are you going to borrow

00:33:01.640 that from China?

00:33:04.020 Are you really just

00:33:06.080 enriching China again?

00:33:07.640 What do you mean

00:33:08.840 with your fifth point?

00:33:11.920 Very simply,

00:33:13.520 everyone's known

00:33:14.460 in America,

00:33:15.460 we've long been

00:33:16.160 on a trajectory

00:33:16.900 where in the very near term,

00:33:19.240 the interest

00:33:19.980 on U.S. national debt

00:33:22.080 alone

00:33:22.640 was going to be

00:33:23.920 the biggest budget item

00:33:25.520 outside of entitlement spending.

00:33:28.740 That is just

00:33:29.260 a stunning economic fact.

00:33:31.720 This completely blows out budgets

00:33:33.540 that were already trending

00:33:34.800 that way.

00:33:36.160 And so I pose

00:33:37.040 the rhetorical question,

00:33:38.420 so what happens

00:33:39.160 when the next pandemic hits

00:33:40.720 and it's 10 times as bad?

00:33:42.580 Or there are massive

00:33:43.660 terrorist attacks

00:33:44.500 around the country

00:33:45.200 or cyber attacks

00:33:46.300 from China

00:33:47.140 or some enemy unknown?

00:33:49.240 Then how big is the bailout

00:33:50.560 at that point?

00:33:51.900 And of course,

00:33:52.420 we'd already be

00:33:52.960 in a much worse

00:33:53.560 fiscal situation

00:33:54.660 at that point.

00:33:55.420 So clearly,

00:33:56.600 at the federal level,

00:33:57.840 and while there does not

00:33:58.660 seem to be any will for it,

00:34:00.500 we are in for a reckoning

00:34:02.120 if we do not act now.

00:34:04.100 What we will witness

00:34:05.060 down the road

00:34:05.680 will be catastrophic.

00:34:07.220 But incidentally,

00:34:07.920 I argue that the same goes

00:34:09.080 for the fact that,

00:34:10.400 granted,

00:34:10.780 this is a completely extreme shock

00:34:12.460 and this was a government-induced

00:34:14.440 shock to our economy

00:34:15.560 and basically shutting it down.

00:34:17.500 The fact that so many businesses

00:34:19.040 immediately required a bailout

00:34:21.540 and also even that

00:34:22.700 so many households

00:34:23.400 are in such fiscal shambles

00:34:25.480 as a consequence of this

00:34:26.780 all indicates,

00:34:28.220 and it goes the same

00:34:28.860 for government,

00:34:29.340 that we are very short-term oriented

00:34:31.360 and debt-based.

00:34:33.100 We value debt over savings.

00:34:34.760 There are even tax reasons

00:34:35.820 built into our code

00:34:36.980 why that is the case.

00:34:38.860 But we need prudence

00:34:40.080 because tough times do hit.

00:34:42.440 And how prepared will we be

00:34:43.680 for the next pandemic

00:34:44.940 given the sacrifices being made now,

00:34:48.580 what is going on

00:34:49.200 at the federal level now?

00:34:50.840 So prudence is not something

00:34:52.540 that's often viewed favorably,

00:34:54.700 but I think this crisis

00:34:56.120 should cause us

00:34:57.000 to re-examine the fact

00:34:58.260 that we ought to build savings

00:34:59.580 at every level

00:35:00.660 and that we should not be

00:35:01.640 so reliant on short-term gains

00:35:04.180 and a debt orientation as well

00:35:06.400 at all levels of our society.

00:35:08.560 Let me ask you one last question.

00:35:10.260 I put this to Joel Pollack

00:35:11.500 of Breitbart.com the other day.

00:35:13.820 I see that there is a lawsuit

00:35:15.700 in China against Donald Trump

00:35:19.520 accusing Trump

00:35:21.260 of spreading the virus to China.

00:35:22.940 It's absurd.

00:35:23.560 It's a conspiracy theory.

00:35:24.920 But of course,

00:35:25.760 the courts in China

00:35:26.620 are not independent.

00:35:27.260 This is the express view

00:35:28.760 of the Communist Party

00:35:30.180 and their diplomats,

00:35:30.940 for example.

00:35:32.000 So I thought,

00:35:32.620 well, what about suing China?

00:35:35.680 Americans, Canadians suing China,

00:35:37.880 not for the virus itself,

00:35:40.360 but rather the cover-up,

00:35:41.900 the negligence,

00:35:42.720 the malice,

00:35:44.160 what they intentionally did.

00:35:47.160 Let's assume that the virus

00:35:48.640 had a natural origin

00:35:49.960 and was not cooked up

00:35:51.500 in their Wuhan virology lab,

00:35:54.040 which just is such a huge coincidence,

00:35:55.880 but let's just leave that alone.

00:35:58.740 Their cover-up,

00:35:59.620 their lying,

00:36:00.180 their destruction of samples,

00:36:02.300 their refusal to let the Centers

00:36:03.520 for Disease Control on the ground,

00:36:05.580 their refusals to warn

00:36:07.140 or limit travel.

00:36:10.220 There's a lawsuit,

00:36:11.140 but there's also the possibility

00:36:12.340 of reparations.

00:36:14.980 Muammar Gaddafi paid reparations

00:36:16.780 to people he murdered

00:36:18.820 through terrorism.

00:36:19.880 Sudan is looking to pay reparations

00:36:21.700 right now

00:36:22.280 to get back

00:36:23.340 in the good graces

00:36:24.260 of the world.

00:36:26.460 Do you think

00:36:27.300 there is any way

00:36:28.820 that through politics

00:36:30.840 or diplomacy

00:36:31.460 or litigation,

00:36:33.640 Americans, Canadians,

00:36:34.860 will ever see

00:36:35.860 any sort of reparations

00:36:37.260 from China,

00:36:38.060 or is it sort of the opposite?

00:36:39.880 The main reparation

00:36:40.820 is just to stop giving them

00:36:42.240 power and money over us.

00:36:44.120 Stop giving them power

00:36:46.840 over us

00:36:48.200 as well as underwriting

00:36:50.200 their malevolent,

00:36:52.480 ambitious agenda

00:36:53.780 to be the dominant world power

00:36:55.660 would certainly be

00:36:57.140 one part of a rebuke

00:36:59.060 to the Chinese Communist Party,

00:37:00.520 but I do think

00:37:01.120 there ought to be

00:37:01.660 a real effort,

00:37:02.420 and I know that

00:37:03.200 there are some in Congress

00:37:04.220 who are trying to work

00:37:05.560 on measures

00:37:06.600 towards this point

00:37:07.680 of reparations.

00:37:08.980 There actually was

00:37:09.540 a lawsuit filed,

00:37:10.520 I think,

00:37:11.160 out of Las Vegas

00:37:12.020 trying to hold

00:37:13.080 the Chinese Communist Party

00:37:14.480 liable,

00:37:15.120 and there was

00:37:15.380 a great article

00:37:15.980 in War on the Rocks

00:37:17.520 as well saying

00:37:18.200 that actually

00:37:18.580 under international law

00:37:19.680 standards,

00:37:20.620 China is clearly liable.

00:37:22.720 So I don't hold out

00:37:23.860 a lot of hope

00:37:24.540 that China will necessarily

00:37:26.260 make concessions,

00:37:27.800 but look,

00:37:28.220 America has a lot of leverage

00:37:29.480 in this instance,

00:37:30.680 not only in the fact

00:37:31.660 that it's a symbiotic

00:37:32.760 relationship

00:37:33.340 in terms of all this trade

00:37:34.580 that we have with them

00:37:35.560 and these supply chains

00:37:37.060 that are interconnected,

00:37:38.180 but also them

00:37:38.760 holding our debt.

00:37:39.960 I mean, look,

00:37:40.360 do you think

00:37:40.700 if the roles were reversed

00:37:41.860 that China wouldn't

00:37:42.760 seriously be floating,

00:37:44.060 for example,

00:37:44.960 just saying,

00:37:45.480 we're going to cancel

00:37:46.060 the debt,

00:37:46.620 we're going to stop

00:37:47.200 paying interest

00:37:47.900 until you stop

00:37:48.620 this hostile information

00:37:49.740 operation against us?

00:37:51.460 Those in the financial sector

00:37:52.740 here would say,

00:37:53.480 that's crazy,

00:37:54.060 you're talking about

00:37:54.680 America defaulting.

00:37:56.120 But I would say,

00:37:56.760 look,

00:37:57.160 the other side

00:37:57.820 has completely defaulted

00:37:59.080 already,

00:37:59.840 and they're the ones

00:38:00.620 who are responsible

00:38:01.220 for this.

00:38:02.040 So what are our levers

00:38:03.100 of power?

00:38:03.720 One of them is economic,

00:38:04.800 and one of them

00:38:05.380 is in the form of the,

00:38:06.460 I believe,

00:38:06.900 over a trillion dollars

00:38:08.080 in U.S. debt

00:38:08.780 that they hold.

00:38:09.360 Yeah.

00:38:10.680 If you owe the bank

00:38:12.180 a thousand dollars

00:38:13.440 and you can't pay,

00:38:14.860 you're in trouble.

00:38:16.060 If you owe the bank

00:38:17.200 a trillion dollars

00:38:18.300 and you can't pay,

00:38:19.780 the bank's in trouble.

00:38:20.840 And I think maybe

00:38:21.520 that's what you're

00:38:22.140 talking about with China.

00:38:24.540 It looks like

00:38:25.360 they're powerful

00:38:25.960 because they hold

00:38:26.620 all this American debt,

00:38:27.660 but maybe,

00:38:28.580 and of course,

00:38:29.200 America's reliability

00:38:31.620 as an honest dealer

00:38:35.540 is paramount.

00:38:36.960 But I think you're

00:38:37.780 exactly right

00:38:38.500 if the shoe

00:38:39.140 were on the other foot.

00:38:40.820 And I think of Canada.

00:38:42.160 I mean,

00:38:43.540 Canada

00:38:43.960 and other

00:38:45.660 Commonwealth countries

00:38:46.760 led a boycott

00:38:48.140 of South Africa

00:38:49.900 until its apartheid

00:38:51.480 regime

00:38:52.340 was dismantled.

00:38:54.120 Wouldn't it be something

00:38:54.980 if there was some

00:38:56.060 coalition of democracies

00:38:58.160 that it,

00:38:59.600 if not quite

00:39:00.260 an economic boycott,

00:39:01.400 because I don't think

00:39:01.920 that's feasible,

00:39:02.920 but at least just

00:39:03.640 had some moral

00:39:05.360 statement

00:39:06.400 about China.

00:39:08.040 Impossible,

00:39:08.760 again,

00:39:09.020 through the UN structures.

00:39:10.400 They have a veto

00:39:10.900 on everything.

00:39:11.900 I just hope

00:39:13.720 that the realignment

00:39:15.420 you talk about

00:39:16.160 in this essay,

00:39:17.220 we might see it.

00:39:18.420 One last point.

00:39:19.980 I'm putting on the screen

00:39:20.920 right now

00:39:21.380 a chart

00:39:22.040 by Pew Research.

00:39:24.780 They interviewed people

00:39:26.240 in dozens of countries

00:39:28.480 asking if they have

00:39:29.820 a favorable

00:39:30.580 or unfavorable

00:39:32.460 view of China.

00:39:35.320 Canada,

00:39:36.340 Sweden,

00:39:36.900 and Japan

00:39:37.640 were the three countries

00:39:39.780 that were most

00:39:40.600 opposed to China

00:39:42.320 a year ago,

00:39:43.500 and that's partly

00:39:43.960 because China

00:39:44.620 still has two

00:39:45.500 Canadian hostages,

00:39:46.720 believe it or not.

00:39:47.720 I would love

00:39:48.820 to see an updated

00:39:50.120 version of this survey

00:39:51.940 in 2020

00:39:53.440 after the virus.

00:39:55.040 I imagine

00:39:55.860 every country

00:39:57.740 is more hostile

00:39:58.580 to China

00:39:59.220 and we need

00:40:00.580 to see that

00:40:01.120 reflected

00:40:01.740 in our national

00:40:02.560 politics

00:40:02.980 and maybe

00:40:03.380 our global

00:40:04.260 institutions.

00:40:05.440 Ben Weingarten,

00:40:06.080 last word to you.

00:40:07.720 If there's one thing

00:40:09.280 that's realistic

00:40:11.440 that could come

00:40:12.420 out of this whole thing,

00:40:13.260 what would that be?

00:40:15.100 One change.

00:40:15.960 Well,

00:40:16.920 let me say

00:40:17.840 the most important

00:40:18.940 thing would be

00:40:19.660 that every country

00:40:20.740 that has gone along

00:40:21.840 with the idea

00:40:22.580 of allowing

00:40:23.500 the Chinese

00:40:24.100 Communist Party

00:40:25.100 via Huawei

00:40:26.360 or other parties

00:40:27.360 to build

00:40:27.920 your 5G

00:40:28.720 infrastructure

00:40:29.480 to control

00:40:30.380 global telecommunications,

00:40:32.260 backtrack.

00:40:33.160 Back out of the deal

00:40:33.920 just as fast

00:40:34.680 as the Chinese

00:40:35.240 Communist Party

00:40:36.000 would back out

00:40:36.960 of a deal

00:40:37.320 that put them

00:40:38.240 at our mercy.

00:40:39.420 It is absolutely insane.

00:40:41.520 It would be

00:40:41.840 the most impactful

00:40:42.760 thing we could do

00:40:44.260 to stop the rise

00:40:45.620 of this hostile power

00:40:46.720 and ultimately,

00:40:47.500 hopefully someday,

00:40:48.700 see the Chinese

00:40:49.260 Communist Party fall.

00:40:50.700 Yeah,

00:40:51.280 I agree.

00:40:51.980 Well, listen,

00:40:52.400 great to have you

00:40:52.960 here today.

00:40:54.140 We've been talking

00:40:54.940 with Benjamin Weingarten.

00:40:56.280 His essay was

00:40:57.000 in thefederalist.com

00:40:58.140 and his book,

00:40:58.700 which I have in my hand,

00:40:59.980 is American Ingrade,

00:41:01.460 Ilhan Omar

00:41:02.140 and the Progressive

00:41:03.320 Islamist Takeover

00:41:04.920 of the Democratic Party.

00:41:06.980 Ben,

00:41:07.140 thanks for your time today.

00:41:08.600 Stay safe,

00:41:09.220 stay healthy.

00:41:09.800 We'll talk to you again.

00:41:11.900 Likewise.

00:41:12.420 Thanks so much, Ezra.

00:41:13.060 Appreciate it.

00:41:13.840 All right.

00:41:14.300 Cheers.

00:41:14.620 Stay with us.

00:41:15.120 More ahead on the level.

00:41:15.720 On the show yesterday

00:41:25.200 about our campaign

00:41:26.320 HelpRebelNews.com,

00:41:28.240 Bruce writes,

00:41:29.740 Rebel News is worth supporting.

00:41:31.040 The reporting is professional

00:41:31.920 and the presentation

00:41:32.500 is top quality.

00:41:33.740 Hey,

00:41:34.200 thank you very much.

00:41:35.560 You know,

00:41:36.240 our production values

00:41:37.880 are lower

00:41:39.120 than those gazillionaires

00:41:40.860 at the CBC.

00:41:41.740 By production values,

00:41:42.600 I mean,

00:41:43.020 we often use little cell phones

00:41:44.460 on a selfie stick.

00:41:45.200 We're running around

00:41:46.000 on our own.

00:41:47.020 We don't have,

00:41:48.060 I don't know if you've ever

00:41:48.780 been to a news event

00:41:50.320 or a sports event,

00:41:51.380 but mainly,

00:41:51.940 like a news convention,

00:41:52.920 you'll see like five CBC trucks

00:41:55.220 and 20 CBC staff.

00:41:57.620 We show up at an event

00:41:58.900 with one or two people,

00:42:00.160 but it's not the bells

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00:42:02.300 It's are you telling

00:42:03.120 the story honestly?

00:42:04.500 Are you telling

00:42:05.120 the other side of the story?

00:42:06.740 Are you telling the stories

00:42:07.680 the other guys ignore?

00:42:09.220 So we have one one thousandth

00:42:11.380 the budget of the CBC,

00:42:13.180 but I think we compete with them

00:42:14.520 at least in telling the truth

00:42:16.180 the politicians

00:42:16.700 don't want us to hear.

00:42:19.320 Elke writes,

00:42:20.580 thank you for all

00:42:21.300 your amazing news reporting.

00:42:22.700 Your bravery astounds me

00:42:23.820 in every way.

00:42:24.500 Your mission to reveal

00:42:25.220 the truth behind

00:42:25.880 packaged information

00:42:27.060 when we receive

00:42:27.500 through the mainstream media

00:42:28.280 is a powerful one.

00:42:29.280 Well, thank you,

00:42:30.140 and I thank you

00:42:30.700 on behalf of

00:42:31.540 my fellow reporters,

00:42:33.340 the on-air talent,

00:42:34.980 Sheila,

00:42:35.600 David,

00:42:36.220 Kean,

00:42:36.620 and of course,

00:42:37.160 our behind-the-scenes people too.

00:42:39.680 On my interview

00:42:40.460 with James Dellingpole,

00:42:41.720 Andrea writes,

00:42:42.980 thank you for having

00:42:43.520 James on your show.

00:42:44.420 I listen to his podcast

00:42:45.260 all the time.

00:42:46.020 He's a man of reason.

00:42:47.560 Yeah, he's a very

00:42:48.200 interesting character,

00:42:49.400 isn't he?

00:42:49.920 He's what I like to think

00:42:51.540 of as a classic Brit,

00:42:53.260 a little bit quirky

00:42:54.300 and eccentric,

00:42:55.520 loves his country,

00:42:57.060 loves the heritage

00:42:58.460 of the UK,

00:42:59.400 which is law

00:43:00.680 and freedom

00:43:02.220 and ingenuity

00:43:04.300 and, I mean,

00:43:05.220 makes me think

00:43:05.780 of all the finest things

00:43:07.060 of the UK,

00:43:08.240 things that I hope

00:43:09.620 they rediscover

00:43:10.480 in this crisis.

00:43:11.820 I hope we rediscover

00:43:13.020 some basic truths too.

00:43:15.080 Well, my friends,

00:43:15.920 that's the show for today.

00:43:16.900 Until tomorrow,

00:43:17.860 on behalf of all of us

00:43:18.860 here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:43:20.140 stay healthy

00:43:20.620 and keep fighting

00:43:22.260 for freedom.

00:43:22.880 and, as I encourage you

00:43:34.780 and I'm here

00:43:36.320 to catch up with the

00:43:37.200 esto of Washington Industries.

00:43:37.800 Thank you.

00:43:37.920 Thank you.

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Coronavirus lock-down： Why gender studies professors aren't listed as “essential services”

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