Rebel News Podcast - DAILY ｜ Reactions to the Ontario leaders' debate; CBC hiring trauma therapists for journalists

00:00:00.000 good afternoon ladies and gentlemen you have tuned into the rebel news live stream on this

00:00:21.040 a tuesday may the 17th 2022 i'm david menzies and my co-host well let me tell you a little bit

00:00:28.640 about my co-host you know today is national cherry cobbler day and my friend would take a cherry

00:00:36.460 cobbler over doug ford's cherry cheesecake any day of the year she is the she devil with a slingshot

00:00:45.220 she is the calese of coberg she is tamara ugolini how you doing there tamara well david i am just

00:00:55.200 great after that fantastic introduction for a moment there i thought you were going to conflate

00:00:59.180 me with sheila she's she's traditionally the she devil in your introduction references so i'm

00:01:05.340 humbled by this context you provided this morning or this afternoon rather thank you david well of

00:01:10.780 course sheila is the she devil with a sword i said slingshot for you because i figured with all your

00:01:15.520 kids you must have ample access to slingshots and uh and don't feel bad uh my namesake david he took

00:01:23.480 down the big guy the prohibitive favorite with a sling and uh there you go nothing to be ashamed

00:01:29.920 of that you don't have a show a sword like sheila does that's right david you're doing god's work out

00:01:35.640 here in the journalistic field especially last night so i think before we get into where we're going with

00:01:42.440 our live stream topics we have to do a formal introduction and i'm rusty on this topic so david do

00:01:49.100 you want to take that away oh well uh thank you for putting me on the spot because this is usually

00:01:53.980 sheila's job basically in a nutshell folks um we are of course uh live streaming on youtube amongst

00:02:02.080 other platforms but if we get into dangerous territory on youtube well uh what can i say the

00:02:09.280 sincere censorious thugs of silicon valley they don't like talk about um contrarian views to the

00:02:16.320 coronavirus of which tamara ugolini has many uh they don't like um talk about election fraud in the

00:02:24.600 u.s in 2020 oh election fraud discussions of 2016 that's okay you fill your boots um so if we're

00:02:33.080 getting into treacherous waters we have to bail but you can see us on super u odyssey oh gosh i'm

00:02:42.600 forgetting a few rumble rumble thank you so much uh getter i believe and um there are ways in which

00:02:50.180 you can do i think we call them a super chat or a library uh you can uh weigh in with a comment if

00:02:57.820 you make a small financial donation that's how we keep the lights on we're not the cbc we we don't you

00:03:03.980 know or for that matter tv ontario we don't take a direct deposit or a direct withdrawal i should say

00:03:10.280 from your bank account every two weeks and force you to uh pay for our broadcast facility so we

00:03:17.720 really do appreciate your your financial support that way and uh i think that in a nutshell very

00:03:24.460 abbreviated is uh is it now speaking of tv ontario uh tamara you and ace uh cameraman lincoln jay

00:03:34.680 we're down at the tv ontario studio uh first of all uh before we get into it what everyone you know

00:03:42.940 certain politicians namely pierre polyev leslund lewis on the federal level of course get amazing

00:03:49.780 standing ovations when they talk about defunding the cbc why does tv ontario um you know slip by

00:03:59.120 anyone's attention why does a government have its own ministry of propaganda a tv studio and my theory

00:04:08.020 tamara is that so few people tune into tv ontario even though it's been around for decades that um

00:04:16.940 it's simply an afterthought but you know uh do you have any thoughts on why we have a provincially

00:04:23.940 funded tv network you know i had actually forgotten about tv ontario so i'm glad that you pointed that

00:04:31.500 out and and it got me thinking too yeah why does this still exist what good is it bringing the

00:04:37.000 canadian public what kind of content did they even come out with um and so i did a little i i was

00:04:42.640 reading up on their website yesterday and the day prior before the debate so for anyone who doesn't

00:04:48.940 know this uh last night the final uh ontario leaders debates took place at like we're saying

00:04:54.920 tv o ontario at their headquarters in toronto um and they're actually partly they're like an arm of

00:05:01.860 the ministry of education the ontario ministry of education and so that i guess at this point

00:05:07.380 unsurprising that the government is just funding all of these it's like a spider web and you have to get

00:05:13.100 back to who the core builder of these things is and it's of course the government um but yeah it was

00:05:20.380 definitely really interesting to be there intertwined in with the mainstream media party and kind of get

00:05:28.520 a firsthand feel for for at least me personally that was my first time being really uh submersed into

00:05:34.000 that situation what that was like in to be with the insiders the quote-unquote mainstream media

00:05:41.980 and um it's really just a big a small echo chamber of like-minded views and ideologies and uh you can

00:05:52.720 really tell that they're all working for these supposed to be independent outlets but they're all doing the

00:06:00.460 exact same work and it was so repetitive and you could see that everyone was you know doing doing their

00:06:06.740 work but it was all the same and uh and so it just really drives home further the need to have

00:06:13.760 independent media that's critical of all parties regardless of their political stripe and um you know

00:06:22.900 hold hold feet to the fire ask some real relevant to the real canadian public questions not these fluffy

00:06:31.840 how do you feel and did were you attacked in the debates kind of thing fluff questions that i mean

00:06:38.800 i don't personally care about i don't that's not what i think uh the media is there to do

00:06:44.720 but obviously it gets them so they think the the hits and the views that they need so desperately need

00:06:52.200 yeah the utter weakness of the questions the ultra lameness of the questions from so many members of

00:06:59.320 mainstream media tamara was just jaw-dropping but let's um you know unpack the debate and uh it's

00:07:06.820 especially prudent i ask you because you were there live and in person to see it i was outside

00:07:11.180 um speaking to various uh protesters and demonstrators i did hear clips of it on the radio

00:07:18.040 i have a two-prong question for you uh tamara um a did anyone in your opinion actually win the debate and

00:07:28.040 b did any leader say anything so profound that it might have swayed somebody to actually change

00:07:37.100 their uh their vote for the upcoming june 2nd election i don't think so i don't think there

00:07:43.220 was a clear winner or uh maybe there was a loser but um i don't think there was a clear winner in

00:07:50.240 terms of you know the strength of the argument or the strength of the platform or policy i was really

00:07:56.420 my jaw dropped when andrea horvath the leader of the ndp announced that they were going to do a 20

00:08:03.020 minimum wage i thought wow that's really uh aiming the bar high there and where does that money come

00:08:11.260 from all i heard throughout the whole debate was just more money pouring more money more funding more

00:08:17.940 funding more funding and nowhere really apart from i guess mostly doug ford you know building

00:08:23.700 infrastructure and and building and bettering areas namely the construction sector i didn't hear

00:08:30.600 a lot of initiatives there um in terms of how we were going to maintain this you know fiscal

00:08:37.920 responsibility where we're going to pour all these funds and money into all these these things but

00:08:42.960 where does the money come from you know and so that's pretty typical i think uh tamara i think i heard

00:08:48.560 a soundbite of doug ford saying uh to the other candidates um had they been in power you wouldn't

00:08:55.520 have built nothing which means either he used a double negative or he's implying you will you would

00:09:03.380 have built something because that's grammatically incorrect right but i guess um uh the if the rules

00:09:11.120 of spelling don't apply i guess neither do the rules of grammar one thing i found annoying and i bet

00:09:17.560 you many viewers tuning in change the channel because it is so annoying uh tamara but when i was

00:09:24.640 listening on the radio the amount of over talking was really appalling and because it you can't hear

00:09:33.340 what anyone's saying it's it's bad tv and bad radio for that matter and i understand that at tv

00:09:40.340 ontario uh not the moderator steve pakin but somebody in the studio had a silencer button

00:09:47.000 and i don't think well you tell me was it ever used because with all the over talking i am telling

00:09:53.820 you not only was that terrible debate etiquette but you were losing audience because people go the

00:10:00.860 hell with this i can't even hear what they're saying yeah at one point all four of them were just

00:10:05.780 trying to talk over one another and i think at that point is when the mics were temporarily cut i

00:10:10.500 think that might have happened twice i did notice that one other time when uh doug ford went to

00:10:15.580 respond to someone i don't remember at what point it was but his mic was off and so you missed the

00:10:21.660 first i don't know 10 15 seconds of what he was saying but you know david it was really hard to get a

00:10:26.500 feel for what was happening in the debate itself because we were in a separate room so i don't think

00:10:32.260 people realized that that the media party was actually set up in a separate room from where

00:10:37.960 the debates were happening and so we were watching it from a screen just like everybody else at home

00:10:43.580 so that was really strange to be you know covering a debate from another room uh that was a first for me

00:10:52.500 as well you know some of the debates that i've been to recently in terms of the conservative leadership

00:10:58.240 debates um and it was it was a way that you didn't feel as engaged with the debate and i mean in and

00:11:05.320 of itself it was a giant snooze fest in my opinion apart from the points that they're talking over one

00:11:10.860 another um so yeah i did notice at least once twice that the mics were turned off but it definitely

00:11:17.940 could have been better moderated and the questions you know again they're yeah they're topics that that

00:11:25.720 matter in in the political landscape but they could have been a lot tougher and they could have pressed

00:11:31.100 the candidates a lot more which again is where i think that the media come in after the fact right

00:11:36.120 the media scrum in my opinion should be there for the the leaders to face further scrutiny to have

00:11:44.940 harder questions hit and of course to cover some of the areas that the debate in of itself might have

00:11:50.740 missed so we didn't hear anything about covid response or or the injections or the reactions

00:11:57.100 that are happening or anything about gun control um and so you know the the mainstream seems to lose

00:12:03.500 a lot of opportunity there to really hone in on more politically relevant topics wasting their

00:12:12.160 questions on feeling fluff but you know tamara not to make this about rebel news i think last night was a

00:12:20.040 significant victory for us in that we did get in to the debate we did get to ask questions and we did

00:12:26.880 so without getting a federal court order like we had to in 2019 and 2021 for the federal debates so um

00:12:35.140 that is uh well i'm going to give myself a very horowitz uh pat on the back uh right there there you go

00:12:41.260 you did the same and speaking of uh question period or the q a um why don't we run a few videos i

00:12:48.700 understand you got to uh query uh the green the green party leader and lincoln got some questions

00:12:55.140 out to liberal leader stephen del duca uh yeah let's run some of those and see what went down

00:13:00.540 shiner thank you for being here tonight uh there is a canadian entrepreneur who has a patent pending

00:13:08.680 on a inexpensive and effective retrofit to utilize um on existing vehicles using ammonia fuel

00:13:17.080 as an environmental party why haven't you investigated this cheap and safe alternative

00:13:23.860 fuel yeah i think i know the entrepreneur you're talking about i've met with him on more than one

00:13:28.300 occasion and certainly we've talked about uh the importance and viability of not only ammonia but

00:13:34.140 also green hydrogen are two effective technologies that ontario should be a global leader in especially

00:13:40.640 as we look at the eu uh and just this horrific senseless invasion uh putin's invasion of ukraine

00:13:48.960 and how it's disrupted international energy markets and ontario is well positioned uh to supply the

00:13:55.160 european union both with green hydrogen and ammonia and those are technologies that we should be

00:14:00.540 developing because they're huge job and prosperity opportunities for the province

00:14:04.600 and of course tamara uh you were referring to um our story from a few months ago roger gordon

00:14:12.440 uh in ontario with his modified ford f350 a pickup truck that uh runs on uh ammonia as well as

00:14:21.920 uh traditional fuel gasoline um and that got a a huge response uh from our viewers i understand

00:14:30.460 um but that's interesting that unlike justin trudeau who loves virtue signaling about um alternative fuels

00:14:39.480 but has never uh returned roger gordon's calls since uh he got into office at least um uh mike schreider

00:14:48.280 uh went out and uh visited them what what do you make of that well i was really shocked that he

00:14:54.100 immediately deflected back to hydrogen because if i remember the report correctly and i mean you were the

00:15:00.300 journalists that reported on it so correct me if i'm wrong here if you have additional details to

00:15:04.220 add but roger the gentleman who did this retrofit he specified that the ammonia is much more cost

00:15:12.660 effective and a lot safer than hydrogen and so i found it interesting that schreiner lumped these two

00:15:23.280 uh fuel alternatives together when it it appeared from the report who we heard from roger directly

00:15:31.340 that ammonia is actually the superior alternative to be using and he really didn't answer my question

00:15:39.600 at all he just deflected about hydrogen and how we have a an opportunity to be you know supply the

00:15:46.440 european union with some alternatives here but i don't hear anything i don't hear any word from

00:15:51.560 anyone in the mainstream or anyone in the government talking about ammonia i would be really interested

00:15:57.600 to hear roger's perspective on that response from schreiner and if they have you know what their

00:16:03.840 conversations have actually looked like yeah i know that's a good point um and as always it's always

00:16:10.800 about the distribution of these alternative fuels tamara i.e when can you and i go to a shell

00:16:17.720 or a petrol canada station or an so station and say fill it up with hydrogen fill it up with ammonia

00:16:23.800 uh that is a huge piece of the puzzle but you know billions are being invested um by uh some of the

00:16:32.060 automakers like honda and toyota and hyundai in looking at hydrogen roger gordon he says hydrogen is still

00:16:40.960 too unsafe a fuel source i'm not a fuel expert so i'm not going to weigh in with my opinion but um

00:16:47.300 i do know in terms of ammonia i think roger said it was about twelve hundred dollars to convert his

00:16:55.140 truck which isn't a lot of money and you're going to make it up in fuel savings to accept ammonia and

00:17:01.120 when you do the mathematics um ammonia fuel works out to 25 cents a liter now tamara the only way you're

00:17:09.180 going to get 25 cent a liter gasoline is to buy a delorean dmc12 with the flux capacitor option

00:17:17.020 and go back uh to oh i don't know 1978 you know and then you can get gas at uh uh 25 cents a liter so

00:17:26.740 i think the upside given that when i drove into work today in the gta gas was around two dollars and

00:17:34.800 eight cents a liter wow a quarter is the deal of the century yeah on the way home last night i filled

00:17:43.280 up i was driving uh we have commuter car and so it's diesel and that was a dollar 25 and i thought

00:17:49.880 that was rough but that's on the outskirts of the city and diesel um so yeah two dollars above two

00:17:56.540 dollars this is just insanity and i mean i'm okay with using fuel and oil but hey if there's

00:18:04.780 an alternative that's cheaper and going to bring that cost down especially for us who you know

00:18:08.780 we travel to cover stories and be on the ground and deliver the reports as they happen in real time

00:18:14.220 hey i'm all for having a cheap and safe alternative um but of course it's also not lining the pockets

00:18:20.120 of the bureaucracy and so that i assume is why we're also not investigating or looking into this even

00:18:26.500 despite having this virtuous green party member who continually spoke of the climate emergency and the

00:18:33.860 next pandemic is going to be the climate crisis and just using this very alarmist language that you

00:18:41.640 know it's just so extreme and and really at the end of the day too it's important to note here that

00:18:47.580 the green party is a fringe party the we have these other parties polling higher than the green party

00:18:54.480 and yet they're not being welcomed into any of these mainstream debates and i'm sure you heard a lot of

00:19:00.260 that yesterday actually david maybe before we we go further into the questions asked i would love to

00:19:06.860 hear what your your view on how the protest outside of tbo canada or ontario went yesterday afternoon

00:19:16.540 with i guess it was namely the new blue party yes indeed uh well there were two demonstrators

00:19:22.520 i was about to call them dueling demonstrators but really they're on the same page because they were

00:19:27.440 espousing abd anybody but doug uh there are the nurses in purple at first i thought the ppc was

00:19:36.160 in town uh but they were um complaining that their wages only went up one percent um during the pandemic

00:19:44.640 and uh then of course jim carahalios um basically the rules for getting into the debate and i think

00:19:54.380 jim's got a really good case is that you had to have candidates running in every riding in ontario

00:20:02.280 that is true of the new blue party you have to have an existing uh mpp that is true of the new blue

00:20:10.900 party namely belinda carahalios uh she is running for re-election and then uh tamara the organizers of

00:20:20.300 the debate um the people that um uh jim carahalios calls the uh mainstream media consortium they basically

00:20:29.000 said to him uh hey sucker read the fine print that uh sitting mpp that's got to be somebody that ran

00:20:38.580 under the current banner but here's the thing uh tamara and i don't even know why that's a big deal

00:20:45.260 why that should be um a point to kick jim out of the debate but even if it is well wait a second

00:20:51.880 the other caveat as i just said was you have candidates in every ontario riding and i believe

00:21:00.640 the liberals are three short of that so by the consortium's own rules and fine print

00:21:07.240 nitty-gritty regulations stephen del duca should have been disqualified he failed to meet the

00:21:14.000 benchmark why is del duca in and jim carahalios is on a sidewalk it's a disgrace and what we should

00:21:20.740 do i think right now uh before we go to some of your other uh questions and lincoln's questions

00:21:25.900 why don't we see jim carahalios try to unpack that and then i'd welcome your comments on what he had

00:21:33.180 to say tamara we got a great party platform the new blueprint we got 124 candidates we were expecting

00:21:40.300 that the media was going to do the best to ignore us and our candidates out there canvassing putting

00:21:45.080 up signs every day and spreading the message thank you very much and every step we take we gain

00:21:50.940 momentum there's no elevator there's no shortcut but the numbers are going up and they've consistently

00:21:56.000 gone up for a year and a half for us and we're only a week and a half into this election campaign

00:22:01.940 and we're doing very very well and belinda's doing very well in her own riding at cambridge going to

00:22:06.820 re-election we've got two and a half weeks left and every day more signs go up more ontarians pick

00:22:11.520 up and say what's going on there's a new option here finally doug doesn't want to be held accountable

00:22:16.020 he made a series of promises to the north and to all of ontario on what he was going to do as

00:22:21.460 premier and and he reversed course and betrayed everybody his entire 2.3 million voters and not just

00:22:27.340 on covet policy largest deficits ever no tax relief um hydro rates have gone up wind turbines the

00:22:36.140 largest wind turbine project in eastern ontario and of course voting in favor of critical race theory

00:22:40.440 he is the exact opposite of what he said he was going to do and of course he wouldn't want to take

00:22:44.760 questions and not have a debate against me to hold him accountable and i think um tamara jim is correct

00:22:52.100 jim is the kind of guy who's going to ask insensitive impolite prickly questions he's the ultimate

00:23:00.240 insider when it comes to queens park chatter the stuff that the parties um as part of i guess a

00:23:06.960 gentleman's or gentlewoman's agreement don't get into uh live on the stage and they're afraid of that

00:23:13.860 what do you take what's your take tamara well that is exactly what the debates are missing

00:23:19.720 they're missing someone who's going to ruffle the feathers who's going to ask the real tough

00:23:26.760 pertinent questions of the leaders point out their hypocrisy point out the fallacies and get some real

00:23:34.660 accountability going that's the whole point it's not to just stand up there and pat each other on

00:23:38.980 the back and oh i agree just a little bit less or a little bit more and it's really just a yawn fest i

00:23:45.620 can't i mean if i wasn't getting paid to sit there for an hour and a half and listen to that

00:23:50.140 absolute garbage where they just talked about making it rain fiat um i think i probably would

00:23:56.800 have opted to just go home and go to bed and like you said people were tuning out because then they

00:24:02.240 just talk over each other and no one's getting anything tangible accomplished so i'm left thinking

00:24:08.460 why aren't we bringing these other voices to the table we're all about diversity and inclusivity and

00:24:13.960 and freedom of thought and freedom of exchanges well hey if they're such a fringe party and they don't

00:24:19.980 matter at the table well then debate them and and shut them down and then let the people decide for

00:24:25.520 themselves who they think represents their best interests the most i mean i don't know why we have

00:24:32.340 to engage in such in such strong censorship of anyone at this point let the public decide the people are

00:24:39.140 going to speak for themselves they're going to think critically they don't need the media to think

00:24:44.200 for them they just need clear presentation of facts and then they can make up their own choices i think

00:24:50.640 that the media really thinks that people are stupid they think that they're not able to critically think

00:24:57.060 and formulate their own thoughts and so they're up there with these fluffy questions that maybe some

00:25:03.020 people eat up but i'm over there going when is this this over when can i ask some questions and get

00:25:09.100 hopefully some real answers but as we see the polito speak uh runs pretty rampant as well probably

00:25:14.520 because these leaders are not used to being pushed and pressed for answers you know i agree with you

00:25:22.000 tamara and i also think that with the political parties especially the progressive conservative party of

00:25:28.740 ontario which is the sitting government there was this undercurrent of arrogance you know uh the

00:25:35.480 and it starts from throwing mpps out of caucus i think they're up to seven or eight i've kind of lost

00:25:42.220 count for having the temerity to disagree with anything that this super majority government does

00:25:47.980 uh to the fact that um doug ford um used that term a bunch of yahoos to describe those anti-lockdown

00:25:58.720 protesters going back more than two years ago appearing on the lawns of queens park you know

00:26:04.840 tamara a lot of people said that was doug ford's hillary clinton basket full of deplorables moment and i

00:26:11.980 said no absolutely not hillary clinton was directing her ire at donald trump supporters

00:26:18.640 doug ford was directing his shot at people the vast majority of whom because i i would ask them this

00:26:26.620 i would say if you don't mind me asking who did you vote for in 2018 and the yahoos almost universally

00:26:32.960 said the pc party so he was turning his guns inward by calling his own base yahoos and you know i think

00:26:42.360 i mean i'm going to personalize this the writing i live in is aurora oak ridges richmond hill when i

00:26:47.620 walk around tamara by far the most signs i see are liberal uh by the way the uh this is held by a pc

00:26:57.800 mpp michael parsa this writing but i also see a smattering of new blue party of ontario signs

00:27:06.460 and ontario party signs and i gotta think if i'm mr parsa the incumbent uh pc mpp i am a little

00:27:16.780 unnerved by this because if someone's voting liberal i never had that person to begin with

00:27:21.380 but someone voting ontario somebody voting new blue that means four years ago they were almost a hundred

00:27:28.380 percent uh online in terms of voting pc and so it's a double whamming not only have i lost their vote

00:27:36.200 but they're going to another uh right-leaning party what is the um i guess the the landscape

00:27:42.680 in the coburg area when you are out and about tamara yeah i'm seeing a similar pattern so i

00:27:48.820 definitely see primarily uh pc so my local candidate here in northumberland peterborough south

00:27:54.600 is conveniently enough the shadow minister of the environment david pacini so i do see a lot of his

00:28:01.440 signs out and about but i'm surprised at how more i'm seeing the other two parties the new blue and

00:28:07.800 the ontario party and i agree with you i think that the right it's it's it's kind of a double-edged sword

00:28:14.200 because we're so engaged in being able to debate and have our own opinions and having these discussions

00:28:20.960 that it leads to when you see that that's not being upheld by the main party so the the

00:28:28.440 conservatives obviously as you mentioned doug ford kicks uh mpps and who disagree with him out of

00:28:34.660 caucus so then of course they're gonna they're going to splinter and split off and they will

00:28:39.640 take their views which they strongly hold and they have been representing their constituents to uphold

00:28:45.900 they're going to splinter and fraction off and develop their own parties based on their convictions and

00:28:51.400 their principled conservative values and views uh so it's not surprising and it makes you wonder where

00:28:58.080 the main party's leader where doug ford's head is at when he takes this approach instead of listening to

00:29:04.580 everyone's views and engaging in robust debate and scrutiny and conversation because that is the

00:29:10.340 foundation of the democratic process he just wants to silence and disregard anyone whose view may be

00:29:17.000 contrary to i guess the ontario science table who are a bunch of unelected self-proclaimed experts

00:29:23.160 and that's who he primarily chose to listen to throughout the covid pandemic when he was yeah

00:29:29.380 condemning his own base for protesting the very restrictions that he was putting in place

00:29:34.480 based on advice at the time of some backdoor secret expert panel because at that time in the spring of

00:29:41.700 2020 he was claiming in the news and in the media to be listening to the experts but wouldn't name them

00:29:49.700 citing privacy concerns i remember that very clearly and then i don't know a month later

00:29:55.440 out rears its head the ontario science table which is mostly just a bunch of bureaucrats from not

00:30:02.220 bureaucrats but uh career students and teachers professors from the dalai lana school of public health the

00:30:10.820 the university of toronto and we know that they're embedded in big pharma and the world health

00:30:17.780 organization and all these global conglomerates and the big pharma conglomerates and um is that

00:30:24.140 really trusting the science or is that just trusting those who are going to profit off of this very

00:30:30.460 response no uh well said tamara and you know i'm the polls indicate that the doug ford pcs are in the lead

00:30:39.640 uh the margin varies from pollster to pollster i gotta tell you something tamara i'm getting this

00:30:45.980 weird vibe regarding this election and i'm going back to 1990 in this province when absolutely nobody

00:30:57.280 predicted that the bob ray ndps uh were going to form the government and boy they did and to this day

00:31:04.960 i've only found one person who admits voting for the bob ray ndp government um i'm not saying i would

00:31:11.560 put money on such a regime change but there's something in the air and especially when i drive

00:31:17.920 to the um south of bluer uh writings in the city of toronto uh the sob writings for short

00:31:25.440 anyway uh i see a avalanche of liberal red and ndp orange i see virtually no blue pc signs

00:31:35.280 i'm just thinking could it be that going back to 1990 tamara we're going to be in for a big surprise

00:31:44.200 on june 2nd yeah i mean i was a toddler in 1990 but i definitely have some i have some contacts there

00:31:53.120 with the ray days right we all know that the ray days were were a hard time for canadians there was

00:31:59.740 no fiscal responsibility and i think that people just need to look to history to find out what some

00:32:06.300 of these parties actually do and it sounds all gravy when you're throwing money at all of these uh supports

00:32:15.460 and having funding and funding and funding but i people i don't know why they don't question

00:32:21.960 or wonder where does the money come from and what kind of deficit are we going to be in and

00:32:27.540 how does the balance the the budget balance itself um and so i think that the conservatives typically get

00:32:34.380 a bad rap obviously because they tend to be more fiscally responsible and that sadly comes alongside

00:32:40.140 with cuts because we see the changeover of governments and so one will just hike up everything

00:32:45.040 and increase the deficit and the other one will come in and try to rein that back in and gain control

00:32:49.180 and it's just this never-ending cycle of deficit and cuts deficit and cuts and that's why i think it's

00:32:56.380 so important to have maybe some of these these lesser-known parties bring them into the table and into

00:33:02.640 the discussion um and start to get some policy that makes sense long term that ontarians and i mean of

00:33:09.320 course canadians as a whole can start to have more of a say in and then you know as soon as they're elected

00:33:15.800 the other thing is is that they just disregard their constituents and they don't listen anymore

00:33:20.600 so we need some a better way to have accountability in that sense that you elect someone to do something

00:33:26.740 and do a job and when they don't follow through and they don't perform in that job

00:33:30.120 and then then we need to have a way to have a check and balance in place to stop that from

00:33:34.800 always that cycle always happening oh i totally agree tamara i just think that

00:33:39.100 fiscal responsibility even for conservatives these days is a mere afterthought yes um you know it's

00:33:44.980 tax and spend and print money but you know i'm basing my quasi prediction of what might happen on

00:33:52.060 june 2nd based on members of ford nation ex-members of ford nation i should say who i meet every day

00:34:00.000 almost who have realized over the last four years that contrary to popular belief doug ford is not

00:34:07.820 the late great rob ford that this whole image of oh you know folks i'm just the common man driving a

00:34:15.440 common van uh actually it's a lincoln luxury navigator suv but anyway i guess he's got to get around on some

00:34:24.400 side of wheels um as i said earlier demonizing his base as being a bunch of yahoos for just saying

00:34:30.860 we want to be open we want to cut hair we want to uh serve people at our restaurant uh him turning the

00:34:37.740 thumb down to that unless you were part of a mega chain like costco or walmart or the ford family

00:34:44.460 business deco labels i understand business has never been better and they never closed a single day

00:34:50.060 people have seen through that i think at least these are the people i'm meeting almost on a daily

00:34:55.440 basis tamara and i think they would rather stay home they would spoil their ballot decline their

00:35:01.780 ballot go new blue ontario you name it then support this regime i think it's going to hurt them

00:35:08.200 at the ballot box we're going to see on june 2nd for sure why don't we get to your second question

00:35:14.040 uh with the green party uh leader and um see how he uh managed his answer

00:35:20.780 you spoke a lot about farmers and preserving farmland uh and yet farmers hate the carbon tax

00:35:30.280 how do you reconcile that yeah well first of all uh rebating uh the our our carbon fee and dividend

00:35:38.480 rebates uh and recycles those revenues back to individuals so most individuals including farmers

00:35:46.320 actually will end up with more money in their pocket and also we've created a fund that will help farmers

00:35:53.040 uh reduce their their uh fossil fuel use helping them save money in a variety of ways here's the bottom

00:36:00.960 line is we are losing 175 acres of farmland in ontario each and every day five family farms a week

00:36:09.760 it is completely unsustainable to continue to lose the land that feeds us i think the disruption we're

00:36:17.520 seeing in international food supply chains right now the disruptions we saw in all supply chains but

00:36:24.400 also food supply chains during the pandemic highlights the fact that we have to prioritize our

00:36:30.400 our own food security and that means protecting the land that feeds us and we know that we can address

00:36:36.880 the housing that we that we can address the housing affordability crisis without paving over that land

00:36:44.560 that feeds us well tamara uh on the plus side i can say that mike isn't as extreme as the leader of

00:36:53.360 there's believe it or not a vegan party of ontario and not only do they want to ban fossil fuels

00:37:00.240 they want to shut down ontario's nuclear plants i'm just wondering how do they think the greenhouses

00:37:07.840 in the province are gonna get the power you know to you know grow those cucumbers and tomatoes they so

00:37:17.040 favor um it's just amazing but anyways what do you make of uh the answer you received well uh first

00:37:27.760 and foremost he laughed at farmers and and maybe hate wasn't the right word that i should have used

00:37:33.280 um but i wasn't even sure if i was going to get a follow-up question so i was really glad that i was able

00:37:37.920 to sneak that in there but farmers they do they hate the carbon tax because farming is becoming so

00:37:45.760 unsustainable for them financially they can't afford gas for their vehicles i mean tractors and combine

00:37:51.520 harvesters these these things don't run on little engines that take you know 50 of gas to fill up

00:37:59.360 now they're probably spending in several hundreds of dollars a fill up on just one piece of equipment

00:38:05.920 and they have to run multiple um so yeah he he mentions that it's unsustainable to lose the land

00:38:12.400 that feeds us but it's also unsustainable for farmers who are trying to

00:38:17.440 sow and harvest and grow on the land that feeds us and so if we don't have that in place then

00:38:24.560 the land doesn't matter anymore because there's no one left to farm it we're losing five family farms a

00:38:30.160 week i'd love to see the actual stats on that if that's accurate here in ontario but i imagine that

00:38:35.120 that's probably due to the rising cost of living and inflation and gas not because you know ford wants to

00:38:42.400 come in and make a highway and then to recycle you're absolutely right tamara and in your um

00:38:50.160 list of things adversely affecting farmers don't forget the cost of fertilizer if you can get it

00:38:56.080 because i understand in some regions there are shortages uh pending and of course when you get

00:39:01.840 the products to market well guess what diesel fuel i think is around two dollars and thirty cents a

00:39:07.360 liter it you know i'll have to get dan mctaig on one day the show to explain that because

00:39:13.680 traditionally diesel fuel is about 10 cents a liter cheaper than regular gas and suddenly it's

00:39:20.960 like 25 cents more expensive i don't know what the market dynamics are there i do know this when you

00:39:27.680 and i go shopping at the grocery store uh we're getting sticker shock because all these costs are passed

00:39:35.760 on to the consumer exactly and i think a lot of the supply chain issues that we're starting to see

00:39:41.120 as well which i'm no economist but uh could have called it beginning of 2020 by the middle of 2020

00:39:48.320 that this is the result of those lockdowns and those restrictions it doesn't take long to disrupt

00:39:55.360 and dismantle a supply chain as soon as the demand's not there anymore then you're going to

00:40:00.000 start seeing the fallout and sadly it's just taken this long to start to finally see the fallout

00:40:05.360 of those lockdowns and those restrictions and people their memories seem to be very short-lived

00:40:11.200 they don't remember that this is a direct result of the government response to a seasonal respiratory

00:40:19.120 virus we're seeing the supply chains now under intense pressure we can no longer get items that

00:40:25.040 previously were readily available and we're just going to see more and more of it especially coupled

00:40:31.440 with the inflation and the rise in gas prices and people don't realize that this is a direct result

00:40:37.760 of that response and let's not forget to mention uh tamara those on the left the way they vilified

00:40:44.960 and demonized the trucker convoy i'm just going to use a tucker carlson quote if you are alive thank

00:40:52.960 a trucker and what he meant by that is when you go to the grocery store how do you think uh the produce

00:40:59.120 and the fruit and everything else got there when you go to a pharmacy how do you think your lifeline

00:41:05.840 medicines got there by truck and yet these people were so vilified and demonized for their peaceful

00:41:13.600 protests in ottawa uh that was an absolute disgrace but we should move on to our colleague uh lincoln he

00:41:20.720 had a question uh regarding the housing plan for canadians fighting inflation let's check that out

00:41:28.640 jay with uh rebel news you plan to address the housing crisis by building a hundred thousand new

00:41:34.320 affordable units so how does this help people trying to buy into the housing market with the record level

00:41:40.960 inflation that we're seeing yeah well i mean first of all the ontario greens put forward a very

00:41:45.760 comprehensive uh housing affordability strategy last june that some have called a master class

00:41:51.920 plan in delivering the solutions we need it clamps down on rampant speculation in the housing market

00:41:57.920 because we believe homes should be for people not speculators and so putting first-time home buyers

00:42:03.680 on a level playing field especially if you look at the number of corporations and speculative real estate

00:42:10.880 uh investment entities that they're having to compete against secondly we're the first party

00:42:17.440 that called for removing exclusionary zoning rules that prevent people from rapidly increasing housing

00:42:25.920 supply and providing more choice through duplexes triplexes quadplexes making it easier for people to

00:42:32.320 build laneway housing tiny homes secondary suites we think that's the fastest pathway to building the 1.5

00:42:39.120 million homes that i know all parties have have have endorsed um but we actually have policy to back

00:42:46.160 it up and finally the third critical component is uh the federal and provincial governments got out of

00:42:51.520 investing in housing in the mid-1990s and the crisis has been getting worse ever since then obviously now

00:42:56.960 it's at a at a breaking point and a whole generation of people are wondering one will they be able to

00:43:01.600 afford to buy a house and two even pay rent and so our commitment to supporting non-profit and co-ops and

00:43:07.840 other community-based uh affordable rental homes uh will help ensure that we provide housing along

00:43:14.400 a continuum and i want to be clear the 60 000 permanent supportive housing spaces we've committed

00:43:20.320 to with wraparound mental health uh addictions and other supports numerous study or not numerous

00:43:27.040 quality studies i'll say show that for every ten dollars invested in permanent supportive housing

00:43:32.320 returns 21.72 back to government in reducing other costs particularly health care costs uh criminal

00:43:39.680 justice costs uh social service costs etc and it was one of the reasons i brought that issue up in the

00:43:45.600 health section because so many doctors now are recognizing the connection between pressure on

00:43:51.440 our health care system and the lack of safe uh stable housing uh supply for people

00:43:56.400 well tamara yeah i certainly agree with them on one point and that is the removal of red tape

00:44:03.520 to get alternative housing belt laneway housing for example that is indeed a viable alternative uh

00:44:09.840 if people want to live in a small unit that borders on a laneway well why not i mean why do we have

00:44:17.680 these rigid i guess nimbyism laws in urban environments uh that prevent this so i think uh there is um you

00:44:28.240 know there's grist for the mill there what are your thoughts yeah i agree and i liked you know the

00:44:32.800 secondary suites building additions onto your own home um i'm i'm a big proponent of uh intergenerational

00:44:39.920 homes and i think that it's important to be able to take care of your elderly and i think that

00:44:43.840 that was another huge debate topic that they touched on was the crisis in long-term care and

00:44:48.720 the absolute abysmal treatment of our elderly our seniors who paid into this system all their lives and

00:44:54.560 are now just hung out to dry or left to die alone neglected in their uh boxed rooms but that's another

00:45:03.440 topic in and of itself i just want to highlight as well here on shriner's comments did he say in

00:45:08.560 there that he wants the federal and provincial governments to invest in back into housing and

00:45:15.040 what do you think about something like that david well you know what um it can be a sinkhole um and

00:45:22.080 you know i think one of the issues is that when you have government funded housing um there is a delinquency

00:45:32.400 by some people who live in those units if you're going to go that route i suggest you make a system

00:45:41.600 in which there is at least um a percentage of a mortgage payment where people put into their

00:45:49.120 subsidized housing unit so that it's home ownership because studies have proven around the world i i in

00:45:55.520 in britain for example i think it's called council housing when you have a rent to own program

00:46:01.120 um suddenly guess what the trash gets picked up suddenly people are planting flowers uh in their

00:46:08.640 front yards so if we're going to go down that route that is the way to go i.e in embracing the idea

00:46:16.880 of private property even though of course private property has never been a constitutional right in

00:46:22.800 this uh uh country to the government shame but that would be my caveat if we're going to go down that

00:46:29.120 route uh tamara yeah and i thought it was interesting too he kept also bringing up this

00:46:33.920 prescription for housing and that so that's why he he referenced back to how he brought it up in the

00:46:39.200 health discussion the doctors are i guess one have a longing to be able to give people a prescription

00:46:45.840 for housing because there is a housing crisis i don't disagree there i know how completely impossible

00:46:52.720 it is to get into the market either to rent or especially for anyone who hopes to one day own a

00:46:58.000 home um but then maybe that can lead us into one of the next topics that we were hoping to get to in

00:47:04.080 this hour-long live stream that we've gobbled up quickly with the debate recap is uh that article

00:47:09.520 by black locks where they uh they they question the immigration claims um where we don't have the

00:47:18.720 resources available to be able to house more immigrants coming in to and they did talk about

00:47:26.480 this in the debates as well to allegedly fill the gaps of employment in in ontario and also canada as a

00:47:34.240 whole um they they want to bring they've raised the the quota so here the second or sorry the third

00:47:41.360 paragraph the cabinet's immigration levels plan raised quotas from just uh shy of forty uh four thousand four

00:47:50.560 hundred and ten thousand to a record of four hundred and thirty one almost four hundred and thirty two

00:47:57.440 thousand uh for this year and where it always makes me wonder especially when we're talking about this

00:48:07.040 housing crisis where are we going to put everyone we can't get everyday canadians everyday ontarians

00:48:14.800 into stable affordable housing where are we going to put more immigrants coming in i mean just in my

00:48:21.680 backyard here we had two ukrainian families welcomed locally a very generous family opened up their home

00:48:30.240 to these two families each family has a child and one family is also pregnant with a second child

00:48:36.400 on the way i think in the next month or two and uh so the the families were eventually placed with

00:48:41.920 within another home so one family went to another home and the other family stayed at the original home

00:48:46.640 that first welcomed them and the guy gave them one month and he said hey after a month you have to find

00:48:52.880 somewhere to live because i'm moving my son or whatever the family dynamic changed and he needs the the

00:48:59.600 basement apartment now for a family member and this poor family i mean they're they're coming from ukraine

00:49:06.320 and they they fled war allegedly um and and now they have nowhere to go they're going to be on the

00:49:13.360 streets here in ontario promised hey you can come to canada and have a safe haven and now they're going

00:49:20.480 to be homeless well you know uh tamara it seems that uh they might have made a strategic error in that

00:49:26.160 they didn't cross into canada illegally at rocksham road where the rcmp turned from police officers to

00:49:32.880 bellhops and carry your luggage and uh it looks like the vast majority of those people uh 60 percent

00:49:38.960 of whom plus are not vaccinated so they can come into the country but the likes of you and i can't

00:49:45.440 get on a uh an airplane um they seem to be well housed so it's kind of like um a philosophy of this

00:49:54.000 federal government of uh reward the takers penalize the makers and um i mean i guess i'm being um semi

00:50:02.640 facetious here but you know it's it is a problem i'm not saying i have the solution i do know that

00:50:09.680 given our pathetic birth rate and of course i'm excluding you um from this uh conversation uh tamara

00:50:16.640 you're doing more than your fair share with your growing family but with our birth rate in canada

00:50:22.400 we don't have enough for even replacing the population so you don't want to get into a

00:50:27.600 demographic nightmare where it's the pyramids upside down with the young people at the bottom

00:50:33.600 and older people at the top which is a huge tax on our health care system of course because we're

00:50:39.520 living longer i mean it used to be that the reason the retirement age was 65 was they figured

00:50:45.280 i only got about three or four more years left well now we have people who are like 75 climbing mount

00:50:50.880 everest for goodness sake so um it has to be addressed and the other issue too is that as you know when

00:50:58.160 you look at where new immigrants are going um it tends to be the gta the greater toronto area montreal

00:51:06.080 vancouver and and we have um we're the second largest country in the world and yet we are not populating

00:51:14.640 it as we should so maybe that is a a caveat to immigration that you can't settle in already

00:51:23.600 overdeveloped overpopulated areas um those are my two cents but uh well and not to mention as well that

00:51:31.920 the fact that there are a lot of shortages here in ontario is because anyone who wasn't vaccinated

00:51:37.920 lost their job they were put on unpaid leave they were terminated you know all the atrocities

00:51:44.160 that faced ontario workers and other i mean provinces across canada who implemented the same

00:51:49.840 let's maybe end that mandate and get those people back into work i mean my family was directly affected

00:51:55.040 by that mandate that came down heavy-handed and even if you so much as did not wish to disclose your

00:52:01.200 personal and private medical information you were reprimanded and and you lost your employment so um why are

00:52:07.360 we you know why do we have all these these gaps in the workplace let's fill them with the people who

00:52:14.720 lost their jobs due to these silly nonsensical mandates now i know we're running out of time here

00:52:20.720 and we do oh and tamara if i can because we should show this um because it's sort of uh what are you

00:52:26.720 were under the main tent in the debate as it was lincoln jay for uh uh the leader debate yesterday uh but

00:52:34.320 outside the main tent tent we saw a little circus sideshow that's uh isabel my camera woman and i

00:52:41.200 on a side street near tv ontario because your first question to green party leader uh was about

00:52:47.520 alternative fuel sources but guess what uh the ndp likes to play the green card too when it comes to this

00:52:54.240 file and yet we discovered that oh lo and behold say it ain't so andrea horwath is really down with

00:53:02.480 fossil fuels it turns out check this out folks here is the andrea horwath campaign bus it's hard to

00:53:10.240 miss and if you can hear i'm not sure if the mic's picking it up the engine is still running now this

00:53:20.320 is one of these perfect days in toronto you neither need the heat nor the air conditioning running it's

00:53:27.680 about 17 degrees celsius so why is this bus idling i mean what's coming out of this tailpipe i don't

00:53:36.080 think it's dilithium crystals i think it's good old fossil fuel carbon emissions so again isn't andrea

00:53:45.120 horwath and the ndp aren't they all about going green and reducing our carbon footprint etc etc and yet

00:53:52.240 here is this massive coach that has been idling um for at least 25 minutes since we got here

00:54:01.680 so once again as we saw during the pandemic uh ad nausea um tamara do as i say not as i do and by the

00:54:10.000 way why in blue hell does she need a vehicle of that size i think those coaches seat 53 if i'm not

00:54:17.760 mistaken you're telling me that bus is packed to the rafters i'm sure it's andrea uh her inner circle

00:54:25.840 maybe some media flax along for a free ride but there's no way there's 53 people in there

00:54:33.040 no actually it was surprising andrea horwath horwath had the second largest entourage accompany her into

00:54:41.440 the media scrum i think she probably had about oh 12 to 17 people with her when she came into the

00:54:48.880 scrum surprisingly ford had just a massive entourage follow him and he had security supporters um i can

00:54:57.040 never remember his media spokeswoman's name lily's brian lily's girlfriend oh that's how i refer to her

00:55:03.280 these days but ivana yelich uh brian lily's mistress yeah yeah you know i always wondered how brian

00:55:10.240 lily was always getting these scoops but i guess it it helps if you um engage in horizontal jogging

00:55:16.560 with the premier spokeswoman anyway continue so so yeah it was it was interesting to see what

00:55:24.240 leaders brought what kind of entourage with them into the scrum um and i also just want to point out

00:55:29.760 too that when we were in the scrum so the media consortium the ones who were helped or facilitated

00:55:35.920 the event they were granted the first six questions um so i just want to let our viewers know quickly

00:55:42.720 that each leader was allotted 15 minutes to engage in the scrum and then the media consortium so the

00:55:50.400 approved media were were granted the first six questions and then each media person also had a

00:55:58.560 follow-up question so there was 12 questions to be asked in a 15 minute period which left very little

00:56:06.080 time for us to engage thereafter if the leader even chose to continue to engage in or go out in the hall

00:56:13.040 which was suggested and so we were able to catch uh liberal leader del duca out in the hallway i don't

00:56:19.440 think he knew who we were which organization we were with originally which is why he probably engaged with

00:56:24.800 us but he did nonetheless stop to answer our questions horwath uh skirted completely she would

00:56:31.360 not stop to answer any additional questions uh green as you saw i think that the media wasn't as

00:56:37.440 interested in in questioning him or pressing so we did get some questions in the scrum lineup the formal

00:56:43.120 scrum lineup and then ford of course uh skirted questions from us as well so we'll have the full report

00:56:48.720 on that but it leads me into sheila's quick uh report that she did that the cbc is hiring trauma therapists

00:56:58.320 for their journalists i mean how absolutely privileged do you have to be to get 24 7 access to a therapist

00:57:10.320 or critical incident and trauma support sessions for cbc journalists um if you we can pull up

00:57:18.560 the yeah there's the article there so you can see the point number two if you scroll down a little bit

00:57:24.160 uh the request for information identified suppliers i guess they're looking to hire these these support

00:57:30.480 so if you look at number two they're globally available in field in person online and by telephone 24 7 365

00:57:40.880 critical incident and trauma support pre-deployment sessions and this is the media that as i saw with my

00:57:48.480 own eyes last night literally has the red carpet rolled out to them to scrum with leader perspectives

00:57:57.040 at a debate they somehow need to have this critical incident and trauma support to them i mean we have

00:58:06.560 everyday canadians sitting on lengthy wait lists to receive those very same supports like months if not

00:58:14.160 a year wait time if you're suicidal we have the kids help phone that is backlogged so far from the

00:58:21.600 pandemic fallout that these kids can't even access any sort of supports to help their ailing and failing

00:58:28.720 mental health because they've been so isolated due to government response and the media party that sat there

00:58:36.320 and rejoiced it all and pressed for more and more and now our tax dollars are going to go to trauma

00:58:42.560 support for those very same people how absolutely privileged do you have to be to sit up on a high

00:58:48.880 horse and think that you deserve something like this and tamara i mean it's a great it's unbelievable

00:58:54.800 yet it isn't but when we talk about trauma cbc journalists are enduring i imagine it's maybe slurs

00:59:04.640 thrown their way by people who don't like the cbc maybe it's nasty things said online but you know i'm

00:59:11.520 just doing an inventory of what i've endured in the last few years uh in kingston having a bottle

00:59:17.120 thrown off my head uh at trinity bellwoods park in toronto having a 120 pound bull mast of sink its

00:59:25.040 teeth into my thighs um last december uh justin trudeau's royal canadian mounted henchman um beat

00:59:33.360 literally beating me up uh throwing my head off a fence for standing on a public sidewalk and as it

00:59:40.160 turned out uh infecting me with covid um so and and that's just a short laundry list of what i've

00:59:47.920 been through other rebels unfortunately have been through this too like sheila gun reed getting punched

00:59:53.520 in the face by dion buse at a woman's rally in edmonton no doubt so you have the audacity as a cbc

01:00:02.880 taxpayer sucking parasite to say oh my feelings got hurt i was in ottawa and somebody you know called me

01:00:12.160 a mother you know what you know i need a psychiatrist give me a break try try out you know some of the

01:00:19.680 stuff that some of the garbage that we encounter out in the field you know if anyone needs a a what

01:00:27.360 what are they called a a trauma therapist it would be one of us but we're built of sturdier stuff i

01:00:33.680 should say uh tamara uh so that that's that's my take when i saw that article i went give me a break i mean

01:00:41.360 whatever happened to sticks and stones that old right well and it's their journalists with

01:00:47.680 just ego fragility on full display i mean grow a tougher skin here maybe that needs to be a prerequisite

01:00:54.880 for the job moving forward or maybe you can just be on the ground and get out of your zoom room

01:00:59.360 and speak to canadians and see how they're actually feeling and represent them in an accurate

01:01:04.560 honest way and then you won't have to be seeking therapy because someone called you a virus

01:01:10.960 like um so i think that just before we're one minute over here we're just going to go through

01:01:16.480 our super chats quickly thank you to everyone who has donated so far uh we have five dollars

01:01:22.240 from fraser mcburney hi fraser i remember we covered your story um gosh i guess about a year and a half

01:01:27.760 ago so i hope you're well um he writes last sunday's rally at hamilton's city hall it was a beautiful sunny

01:01:34.400 81 degree day as i stood alone educating the passing cars many beeps and conversations that's great

01:01:41.680 fraser talk about a one-man gang yeah that's right there's some bravery for you i don't think he suffers

01:01:47.920 from ego fragility um to verify i might add i hope fraser in the days ahead is not going to get

01:01:54.960 a email or rather was it email or yes an email ticket or a mail ticket for hamilton bylaw because

01:02:02.880 what they do fraser uh based on my experience is they don't even approach you to give you a ticket for some

01:02:10.720 made-up nonsense they simply send you an amps ticket through the mail for 360 dollars which i received

01:02:19.760 and the egregious thing about it tamara and i only got it because i was practicing journalism which is

01:02:25.440 against uh the rules apparently in hamilton with an amps ticket you cannot fight it you um you cannot have

01:02:34.640 a day in court saying this is ridiculous i was on a public square asking people questions how is this

01:02:41.680 a bylaw infraction you can only go to the bylaw department and ask for leniency and they say no

01:02:48.560 and shockingly tamara because we were gonna do a court challenge of this and lo and behold we

01:02:54.800 researched this and in 2016 it went before the supreme court of canada and it was upheld

01:03:01.840 this is mind-boggling the idea that you are ticketed convicted and there's no day in court

01:03:10.720 for you goes completely against our justice system and yet the supremes are it's fine

01:03:17.920 yeah so much for innocent until proven guilty exactly um g melinda g60 she's gives five dollars

01:03:25.440 thank you texan here at least our media stands together every american citizen knows that joe biden

01:03:30.880 loves ice cream chocolate and chocolate chocolate chip lockstep they are shallow and hollow paid for

01:03:38.000 by pfizer honk yes oh frazier mcburney by the way another one if i may say it um uh thank you so much

01:03:47.200 for that donation and the great state of texas uh it's texas and florida if ever i had to move to the

01:03:52.880 u.s as far as i'm concerned but i um urge our viewers tamara to google the phrase brought to you

01:04:02.240 by pfizer there's like a five minute plus clip uh on the internet and it is rapid fire like eight to ten

01:04:12.880 second uh clips of every major media organization in the united states and it is proceeded with

01:04:21.200 brought to you by pfizer it's really something to see yeah when you start recognizing that more and more

01:04:28.080 you see just how deeply embedded big pharma is with all of our institutions it's actually very

01:04:33.200 unsettling um frazier mcburney gives another five dollars thank you frazier congratulations on your

01:04:38.720 coverage on the debate just like any other politician political debate boring no one on the stage is

01:04:44.720 worthy of my vote i'm hearing that often you know tamara i gotta tell you and that's why you uh should

01:04:54.240 get out and talk to your new blue representatives and ontario party representatives and any other

01:04:59.280 party who's not getting the coverage that they may deserve in uh the lead up to the election uh adam

01:05:05.920 ottawa two dollars thank you the ontario debate was lame oh why did the media party waste valuable

01:05:12.960 questions on ford's use of a binder as an aid memoir fluff-o-rama completely agree we were debating what

01:05:19.440 the color of the binder might be like what what was that tamara you know by a certain point your brain

01:05:27.280 just goes blank because you're tired of listening to the just absolutely useless and senseless questions

01:05:33.440 and it's just another giant eye roll um so i don't even know how many times that was asked but i'm

01:05:40.240 over there saying like i'm looking at the clock i'm going okay i know we have 15 minutes i know that

01:05:44.640 there's six people in front of me and each six gets two questions so there's 12 and i'm looking going i'm

01:05:50.720 not going to get a chance to ask him my actual relevant question and so i had to like go over to the

01:05:56.400 side and kind of skirt around everybody and just interject uh he didn't answer my questions but i

01:06:01.440 was still able to pose it and so we'll have the full report on that coming i think later today or

01:06:06.160 tomorrow once we compile all the clips together but um ford looked absolutely shocked i don't know if he

01:06:12.160 was shocked that i just kind of jumped at him to uh to get a quick question posed or if he was shocked

01:06:19.600 at the nature of my question but he looked like a deer and had lights immediately when he saw someone

01:06:25.760 come into his face and ask a quick question because the media only cared about him having

01:06:31.280 a binder unbelievable um world's worst gamer oh sorry about that world's worst gamer one dollar

01:06:40.000 thank you here's one dollar to help the menzoid pay for that lottery ticket he lost on recently

01:06:44.240 you know what world's worst gamer uh thank you so much finally one person taking my side it's a long

01:06:52.880 story it's where i offered to buy um isabel my camera woman a brand new mini cooper if she gave me

01:07:01.040 the correct numbers for lotto max not a single number came through and by the way the offer went from

01:07:08.160 a mini cooper to a house so um that was on the insistence of lady manzoid uh not a single number

01:07:16.640 came through i thought at the very least she could refund the five dollars uh nobody agrees with that

01:07:22.160 position except you world's worst gamer and if we ever meet i'll tell you my pac-man miss pac-man joke

01:07:29.840 it is not suitable for broadcast

01:07:31.840 that's a private conversation all right alberta dawn three dollars thank you why is mass migration

01:07:40.160 never discussed when the topic of the housing shortage is raised yeah um i know that we're

01:07:46.960 seeing mass migration who knows if those people are holding their houses to hope you know this is

01:07:52.320 pure speculation but i would hold on to the house for a little bit and hope that things take a turn for

01:07:56.880 the better in ontario and canada so um yeah i'm not sure about that david do you have anything to weigh

01:08:02.960 in a you know what i'm not saying i have all the solutions because you know as i said earlier we need

01:08:08.960 immigration because of our pathetic birth rate domestically uh but in terms of housing um the one

01:08:16.880 thing i do agree with the green party leader is the idea of uh cutting some of the bureaucratic red tape

01:08:22.960 uh getting rid of some of the nimbyism regulations so that um if immigrants are coming to already dense

01:08:32.000 urban areas we can build there uh and think outside the box i know that's a cliche saying but laneway

01:08:40.400 housing you know that is an outside the box uh thought that was never up for a conversation in

01:08:46.800 toronto of yesterday decade and there are areas that have pulled this off successfully so i think there

01:08:52.720 are some urban planners that might have some ideas as to how to uh fix this problem but um it's a rock

01:09:01.600 and a hard place in a certain way isn't it tamara well in this alberta don he sorry if i read it too fast

01:09:07.760 it was mass migration so we know that people are fleeing and leaving ontario and canada in record numbers

01:09:15.760 that they have previously and so he was wondering why mass migration is never discussed when the topic of

01:09:21.920 housing shortage is raised i see you know what i'd be interested to see how what the numbers are

01:09:28.720 very frequently i'll see in our comment section for our videos uh tamara uh ex-canadian now living in

01:09:36.000 costa rica that's a popular one costas yeah we got out of dodge so sorry to see how horrible it is there

01:09:43.040 but i don't know what the numbers are um especially with the two years of hell we went through

01:09:48.480 uh with the uh pandemic in um full throttle mode it'd be interesting to find out

01:09:55.440 yeah i agree maybe something to look into um and then last one is another one from adam ottawa one

01:10:01.120 dollar thank you don't you remember jt's seamus oregon who was the minister of veterans affairs who

01:10:07.600 claimed he had ptsd so he could connect with vets wow i personally don't you know i don't remember

01:10:17.200 that i'm going to look it up uh so that uh i'm not uh as ignorant as i appear right now but um what a

01:10:24.800 condescending thing to say i mean it's like if you were speaking to somebody who was disabled um would

01:10:31.600 would you plop yourself into a wheelchair and say i can empathize with you now uh what is your story

01:10:38.160 i mean that seems ridiculous to me right yeah wouldn't surprise me though coming down from the

01:10:43.920 liberal government for sure anyway we're 10 minutes over here now thank you everyone for your super

01:10:49.360 chats and for listening to our uh rants about how the debates went the ontario leaders debates went

01:10:56.160 last night i'm hopeful that we will see your full report soon david when you're out there with the

01:11:02.400 protesters out front and definitely mine and lincoln's report will be published uh shortly as

01:11:08.560 well so stay tuned and follow along as always rebelnews.com support our merch like this cool rebel

01:11:14.960 mom hoodie at the rebelnewsstore.com david do you have anything to say for sayonara well you look

01:11:21.040 resplendent in that beautiful pink rebel mom uh sweatshirt tamera and thank you so much for

01:11:26.960 filling in for the she-devil in the meantime there will be a couple of other uh rebel news personalities

01:11:34.720 at 12 noon eastern standard time and until i see you again with uh sheila on thursday stay sane

01:11:45.520 massive lineups at airport security passengers being held on the tarmac

01:11:50.800 missed connections costly delays outdated covid testing and many canadians still can't even travel

01:11:57.920 canada's airports are getting a reputation and it's not a good one the reason according to the

01:12:02.960 minister canadians have forgotten how to travel and they are out of practice unbelievable is the

01:12:08.960 minister going to take responsibility for his government's failure or will he continue to blame

01:12:14.240 canadian travelers the honorable minister of transport mr speaker it's not a surprise that a

01:12:22.400 conservative member of parliament repackages and misinforms the canadians about what i said

01:12:27.760 having said that it is really important today to acknowledge the good news mr speaker more and

01:12:33.920 more canadians are traveling and that's good news having said that we're seeing that the surge for

01:12:40.800 demand to travel is putting a lot of pressure on our airports on our uh security system we are making

01:12:48.640 sure that we increase resources we're working with airports we're working with airlines to address this

01:12:54.720 issue this is a priority mr speaker thank you

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DAILY ｜ Reactions to the Ontario leaders' debate; CBC hiring trauma therapists for journalists

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