Rebel News Podcast - October 27, 2023


DAILY Roundup | Trudeau caves on carbon tax, Rebel's call to Deport Hamas, Poilievre slams Liberals


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

150.48964

Word Count

8,575

Sentence Count

580

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

49


Summary

Join us on a week-long Caribbean cruise in March with your favorite Rebel News personalities, including myself, Sheila Gunn-Reed, Alexa Lavoie, David Menzies, and many more, plus the Woman of the Year, Tamara Leach.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 It's summertime now, but the cold Canadian winter will be here soon enough.
00:00:05.060 So I am planning a week-long Caribbean cruise in March with your favorite Rebel News personalities,
00:00:11.960 including myself, Sheila Gunn-Reed, Alexa Lavoie, David Menzies, and many more,
00:00:16.920 plus the Woman of the Year, Tamara Leach.
00:00:20.000 Want to come with us?
00:00:21.380 We're going to sail out of Fort Lauderdale, Florida on March 23rd.
00:00:25.120 Our first stop will be the beautiful Half Moon Cay in the Bahamas,
00:00:29.760 then on to Ocho Rios, Jamaica, then the Cayman Islands, and finally Cozumel, Mexico.
00:00:36.000 Talk about a great winter getaway.
00:00:39.220 It's going to be beautiful and relaxing and a little bit luxurious.
00:00:42.880 We're going on Holland America Line, so you know it's going to be good.
00:00:45.820 But the real fun is that we're bringing some of the most interesting thinkers and doers on the cruise with us
00:00:51.720 for a series of special Rebel News-only events on the cruise ship when we're at sea,
00:00:56.620 including panel discussions where you can get intimate and interactive with some of the smartest public policy minds around.
00:01:03.680 It's not just Rebel News staff.
00:01:05.360 It's newsmakers we love to interview on our shows.
00:01:08.640 That's what makes this cruise so special.
00:01:10.440 Over the course of the week, you'll have countless opportunities to talk one-on-one with your favorite Rebel News personalities in a casual setting.
00:01:18.340 We'll have private Rebel News-only receptions and a series of panel discussions with a question-and-answer session
00:01:24.460 where you can really dig into the issues.
00:01:26.740 And this is my favorite part.
00:01:27.920 Every night, we're going to have dinner together, and we're going to rotate tables at dinner each night
00:01:32.780 so you'll be with a different Rebel celebrity every night and your fellow Rebel enthusiasts.
00:01:38.300 So, for example, one night you'll have dinner with me.
00:01:40.560 The next night, you'll have dinner at Tamara Leach's table and so on.
00:01:43.720 How much fun is that?
00:01:45.800 I can hardly wait.
00:01:47.360 If you like cruising already, well, this is truly something unique.
00:01:51.020 And if you've never been on a cruise ship before, this is the perfect way to start
00:01:55.200 with a group of like-minded Rebels from coast to coast.
00:01:58.940 You can find out all the details, including the different cabin prices, at rebelnewscruise.com.
00:02:06.100 I know you're going to look back on it as the vacation of a lifetime.
00:02:09.520 We've reserved a limited number of Rebel News cabins, so book yours today at rebelnewscruise.com.
00:02:18.660 We'll see you there.
00:02:26.400 Sorry to disappoint you.
00:02:27.800 It is not David Menzies.
00:02:29.020 It's me, Ezra LeVance.
00:02:30.580 My good friend David is doing something very exciting right now.
00:02:34.960 He is right now in perhaps the most exciting place in the world, namely Times Square, New
00:02:41.880 York City.
00:02:42.720 What a hustly, bustly place.
00:02:45.660 What is David doing down there?
00:02:47.180 Well, he's with our friend Lincoln Jay, and they have launched an international campaign
00:02:52.100 crowdfunded by Rebel News called Deport Hamas.
00:02:56.720 What do we mean by Deport Hamas?
00:02:58.360 They're a terrorist group.
00:02:59.200 They're not here, are they?
00:03:00.420 Well, actually, they are in a way.
00:03:02.520 What I mean by that is all the protests and rallies in support of Hamas, now we believe
00:03:08.140 in freedom of speech, even for odious speech, but let's say it's a foreign national who is
00:03:13.800 in New York, Washington, Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Ottawa, and they're here to study.
00:03:22.040 They said, hey, we're from some faraway country.
00:03:26.140 We're not American citizens, but can we please go to school there?
00:03:29.340 Can you give us a student visa so we can go to university in the United States or Canada
00:03:34.960 or Britain?
00:03:35.800 And we say yes.
00:03:37.280 And then they come here, and instead of adding to our society, instead of just spending time
00:03:42.720 studying, they go to these Hamas hate rallies.
00:03:47.220 Well, like I say, one of the values of Western countries is our belief in freedom of speech.
00:03:52.360 But if you are a foreign national, you don't have the right to be here.
00:03:58.200 It's like a house guest.
00:04:00.320 And if you invite a house guest over and he starts telling you what a Nazi he is and starts
00:04:05.160 quoting Hitler and starts talking about the final solution, you have the right to kick
00:04:11.460 him out of your house because he's just a guest.
00:04:13.600 He doesn't live there.
00:04:14.500 And so the theory behind DeportHamas.com, which is our new campaign, is that in the
00:04:22.240 Western countries, if there are people who are foreign nationals who are here to cause
00:04:29.400 social division, to promote violence, to aid terrorist groups, and God forbid to even
00:04:36.240 replicate some of that terrorism here, well, they should be sent home.
00:04:40.540 Now, you can see there's obviously some Canadian-born folks there, and there are some naturalized
00:04:47.360 citizens.
00:04:48.520 And I don't propose that someone who merely attends a hate rally be denaturalized.
00:04:55.060 And obviously, what do you do with someone who was born and raised here?
00:04:58.240 I think you do a few things.
00:05:00.160 You denormalize Hamas.
00:05:02.380 You demonize them because they are demons.
00:05:05.740 They're demonic, certainly.
00:05:06.740 But for those who are foreign citizens here on a visa, I think you—I mean, look at these
00:05:14.460 folks out here chanting outside the Israeli embassy.
00:05:18.940 Now, it's fine to chant outside the Israeli embassy.
00:05:21.720 By the way, when you're blocking roads like this, it's a good thing you're not a Canadian
00:05:24.920 trucker, or you might be stomped by riot horses, thrown in jail, and have your bank account
00:05:29.680 seized.
00:05:30.020 But if you're a foreigner who has come to Canada to sow dissent, hey, how about get the
00:05:35.440 hell out?
00:05:37.300 I remember when I was in university way back in the day, there were foreign students from
00:05:42.500 Syria—I remember a number in particular—who would be at the University of Calgary.
00:05:47.260 They would take one course.
00:05:48.940 So they were a registered student.
00:05:50.820 Just take one course a semester.
00:05:52.240 So 90% of their time was free.
00:05:55.340 And they would basically stir up anti-Semitism full-time on campus.
00:06:00.260 And then they would go back to Syria five or 10 years later and do whatever project, or
00:06:04.620 who knows?
00:06:05.040 Maybe they would even stay in Canada.
00:06:06.520 But they were basically foreign agents.
00:06:09.620 And that was—you know, it's been some 30 years since I was at the University of Calgary.
00:06:15.560 Now the problem is so much more massive.
00:06:18.920 Back then, the number of Jew-haters on campus was very small.
00:06:24.420 It was wonderful growing up in Canada in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
00:06:28.620 It was a very peaceful and placid place.
00:06:31.540 We didn't have people chanting death to the Jews or Intifada Revolution or from the river
00:06:37.040 to the sea, all of which are different ways of saying kill the Jews.
00:06:41.020 Now, do we have any viz of our friend in New York?
00:06:46.640 Or is it going to—yeah?
00:06:48.200 Here, let me show you a little bit of what the lads are up to in New York City.
00:06:54.720 Take a look.
00:06:59.520 David Menzies for Rebel News here in New York City with my ace cameraman, Lincoln Jay.
00:07:04.960 And folks, we are fighting back.
00:07:07.480 We are fighting back against foreign nationals in cities like New York,
00:07:12.400 cities all around the world in which thousands of demonstrators have come out
00:07:18.140 in support of Hamas, in support of terrorism.
00:07:23.140 And this is all in light of the barbaric atrocities that occurred in Israel on October 7th.
00:07:30.860 More than 1,400 dead in many in savage and brutal ways.
00:07:36.480 Why is it that foreign nationals are here supporting that?
00:07:40.880 Why is it that so many people on student visas are advocating this kind of hatred?
00:07:48.200 We are also going to be taking this truck to other cities—Washington, D.C., Ottawa, Toronto—
00:07:54.260 and we want you to go to our new petition.
00:07:58.520 That's DeportHamas.com.
00:08:01.320 DeportHamas.com.
00:08:02.260 If you can put your name there, and also if you can make a donation,
00:08:06.900 these trucks cost about $2,000 a day.
00:08:09.800 We think it is indeed money well spent to deport these foreign nationals,
00:08:15.140 who, by the way, should consider themselves lucky that they are not being charged
00:08:20.700 under various laws that prohibit the support of terror groups in the first place.
00:08:26.420 Once again, folks, please go to DeportHamas.com.
00:08:31.020 Well, there you have it.
00:08:34.660 David and Lincoln in New York City with the billboard truck, the LED truck that shows some
00:08:43.560 of the Hamas hate rallies.
00:08:47.680 They're down there doing what we call streeters, man-on-the-street interviews, and they'll be
00:08:52.280 bringing attention to the vehicle.
00:08:54.860 They will be off to other cities.
00:08:56.340 They're going to Washington, and they're coming back up to Canada.
00:09:01.520 In my mind, this is a campaign that should be across various democracies.
00:09:06.420 I know for a fact that both the British and the French immigration and foreign ministers
00:09:11.980 have said things in this vein as well, that if you are not a national, but you've come
00:09:16.660 to those countries to whip up hatred, that is not what we're about.
00:09:21.860 It would be like in 1930s having German nationals strutting about in brown shirts with Nazi flags.
00:09:31.360 Go home.
00:09:32.720 There were some indigenous British people who were Nazi.
00:09:36.960 There were some Americans who supported the Nazis.
00:09:39.920 I saw a headline the other day that some, I think it was Georgetown, had like some student
00:09:45.300 election, and Hitler won the election in the 30s.
00:09:49.380 There absolutely was some support for Hitler in the West amongst Americans, Canadians, Brits.
00:09:57.940 That's for sure.
00:09:59.660 But the idea that German nationals would hold mass street rallies denouncing the West and
00:10:08.460 praising Hitler was unthinkable, and it should be unthinkable today.
00:10:13.140 So that's what our DeportHamas.com petition is about, and we just started it in earnest today.
00:10:22.300 Now, I understand that earlier today, Pierre Polyev was asked what he would do.
00:10:29.840 Because one of the bills that Stephen Harper talked about, I don't know if it ever came to
00:10:34.780 a vote, was to make it against the law to glorify terrorism.
00:10:40.800 And it's, I mean, and that's where you're getting to the issues of, well, do we believe
00:10:45.440 in freedom of speech or not?
00:10:46.520 My point of view is that you do believe in freedom of speech, even for odious speech.
00:10:50.420 I think you have to.
00:10:51.860 I think freedom of speech is something that you have to give to your opponent if you want
00:10:55.660 it for yourself.
00:10:57.860 Obviously, there's a line beyond which the speech is no longer just about speech.
00:11:03.220 It's about other things.
00:11:03.860 For example, I've shown you several times before, the criminal code provisions against
00:11:08.620 helping terrorist groups.
00:11:11.180 And it doesn't say praising terrorist groups.
00:11:14.340 That's not a crime.
00:11:15.920 But if you participate in, if you facilitate, if you instruct, or if you harbor, there's four
00:11:25.680 different things that are a crime.
00:11:27.020 And then there's a list of these terrorist entities.
00:11:30.740 Hamas is obviously one of them.
00:11:32.300 Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, there's a ton of them.
00:11:36.200 So if you are going to a hate rally, are you instructing Hamas?
00:11:44.480 Probably not.
00:11:45.720 Are you harboring Hamas?
00:11:49.320 Probably not.
00:11:49.940 But are you facilitating them?
00:11:55.700 Maybe.
00:11:56.940 If you're raising money for them.
00:11:58.600 There was some student groups in Florida who said, we are part of this terror project.
00:12:05.220 We have a terror toolkit.
00:12:06.980 They didn't say terror.
00:12:08.160 They just said, we're part of the Hamas project.
00:12:10.140 And we have a toolkit you can download.
00:12:11.840 Well, Ron DeSantis said, ah, you're facilitating.
00:12:13.960 You're participating.
00:12:14.640 Of course, the law in Florida uses slightly different language than in Canada, but it's
00:12:20.700 the same thing.
00:12:21.220 You cannot assist a terrorist group because at that point, the pith and substance of what
00:12:28.040 you're saying is not speech, it's terrorism.
00:12:30.640 I mean, theoretically, you could say, well, forging a check is freedom of speech.
00:12:35.680 Well, yeah, on the face of it, you know, it's artistic.
00:12:38.240 You're forging someone's signature.
00:12:39.800 But the pith and substance, as a lawyer would say, that the essence of what you're really
00:12:46.340 doing is not the artistry of forging someone's signature.
00:12:50.600 It's a financial fraud.
00:12:53.220 So at what point do words transform from being just words, even odious words, into a real crime?
00:13:02.320 Right now, the criminal code says if you participate, instruct, harbor, or facilitate
00:13:08.380 terrorist groups.
00:13:10.200 Stephen Harper said you shouldn't be able to glorify terrorism.
00:13:14.220 Alas, that did not become law.
00:13:16.060 Here's Pierre Pauly, the leader of the Conservative Party, when pressed on the subject.
00:13:21.060 Given concerns that you and others have voiced over pro-Palestinian rallies, demonstrations
00:13:26.440 that some argue have amounted to support for Hamas, if you form the next government, would
00:13:32.040 you introduce laws that were in place under the Harper government that criminalize the advocacy
00:13:36.900 or promotion of terrorism offences?
00:13:41.720 So we would, let's distinguish.
00:13:44.660 People can protest any cause they want.
00:13:47.680 They can state any opinion they choose.
00:13:50.240 And that will not change when I'm Prime Minister.
00:13:52.220 I am running for Prime Minister to make Canada the freest nation on earth.
00:13:55.360 So people are free to disagree with me on the Middle East or anything else.
00:13:58.400 I have condemned people with my words, not with any proposed censorship, who have glorified
00:14:08.200 the genocidal attacks by Hamas on Israeli civilians, which was the worst attack on Jews since the
00:14:15.240 Holocaust.
00:14:15.520 We have already a criminal prohibition on providing material support to listed terrorist organizations
00:14:24.840 like Hamas.
00:14:26.440 That should be enforced.
00:14:28.580 If you donate, raise money, coordinate, recruit for Hamas, it is already a crime and you should
00:14:36.000 be arrested and prosecuted if you do that.
00:14:38.060 At the same time, people are free to express any opinion they want, even when I find those
00:14:44.660 opinions appalling.
00:14:46.940 Finally, I don't agree with you conflating Palestinians with Hamas.
00:14:52.120 They are completely different.
00:14:53.620 The Palestinian people are not responsible for the evil of Hamas.
00:14:58.420 Hamas is a terrorist dictatorship.
00:15:01.280 It opposes itself on Palestinians.
00:15:04.500 Palestinians are, the Palestinian people themselves are innocent, their lives are precious, and
00:15:12.220 we should do everything we can to protect them and their families during this difficult
00:15:16.920 time.
00:15:17.560 And the Conservative Party expresses total solidarity with Canadian Jews and Canadian Muslims, both
00:15:23.780 of whom are suffering because of this horrendous war that Hamas has unleashed and the evil that
00:15:31.240 that organization represents.
00:15:32.760 And in conclusion, we do believe Israel, like any other country, has the ability and the
00:15:37.320 right to defend itself.
00:15:38.340 Thank you.
00:15:40.020 There's a lot that he said in there, and it's actually a thoughtful answer.
00:15:44.660 He says he will not make glorification of mass murder and terrorism, horrific crimes, he
00:15:52.120 will not make the glorification of crime into a crime.
00:15:54.360 And that's the principal position of a free speech supporter, which is how he identified himself.
00:16:03.340 And you can see he referenced there that he used his speech to condemn the odious hate
00:16:09.660 rallies that he has seen.
00:16:10.740 I think it's also wise for him to differentiate between Palestinians and Hamas, although I'm
00:16:18.820 troubled by how many Palestinians and other Muslims and Arabs do support Hamas.
00:16:23.380 I think it's very troubling.
00:16:25.500 I think he's correct to talk about the criminal code provisions about providing material support
00:16:31.900 to terrorist groups.
00:16:34.660 But I think it's beyond material support.
00:16:36.960 If you look at the criminal code, it's harboring, instructing, participating, or facilitating.
00:16:41.700 And if there is a Hamas organized event, or if you are in league with Hamas, at what point
00:16:49.980 are you participating and facilitating?
00:16:52.000 I think that he was not asked about, and I think he should be asked, what he thinks about the idea of
00:17:02.900 deporting non-citizens who engage in these hate rallies.
00:17:09.520 Because it's one thing to say you support freedom of speech, and Canada's both freedom of speech, and I agree
00:17:14.800 with that.
00:17:15.280 But do we accept foreign nationals who have no tenure here, who are not citizens, and who, like I observed
00:17:26.460 when I was a student, come here for the purpose of sowing hatred and fomenting, really, I mean,
00:17:35.580 when you're calling for an intifada, that's the Arabic word for pogrom.
00:17:39.640 When you're calling for from the river to the sea, you're saying kill every Jew in Israel.
00:17:43.500 When you're calling for an intifada revolution in Canada, well, that's a violent revolution
00:17:50.460 you're calling for.
00:17:53.360 And I'm not sure why Canadian citizens, including Canadian Jews, have to be abused by foreign
00:17:59.840 nationals who have no right to be here, who are here as our guests.
00:18:04.320 So I think that he was not asked that question, the question that is behind our Deport Hamas campaign.
00:18:11.620 I hope our Deport Hamas campaign gets some support.
00:18:17.760 So, but I'm glad he's talking about it, I'm glad he's thinking about it, and I should point out that the first
00:18:22.920 instinct of the Liberal Party is to demand more control over the Internet.
00:18:29.140 And I know that because the Justice Minister, Arif Virani, when he attended a anti-Semitism conference a couple weeks ago,
00:18:36.260 and I used my finger quotes there, because the Liberals don't care about anti-Semitism.
00:18:39.780 The worst anti-Semites in Canada are in their caucus, Omar al-Gabra, Ikra Khalid.
00:18:44.300 But Arif Virani, who I don't believe is anti-Semitic, by the way, he said, oh, and I'm very concerned
00:18:58.100 about anti-Semitism, and so I'm going to, what, ban glorifying terrorist groups?
00:19:04.820 What, crack down on these hate rallies?
00:19:06.620 No, no, no, no, no.
00:19:07.220 Well, I'm going to reintroduce some online censorship, which will be used against the Liberal Party's critics.
00:19:14.860 So, I much prefer Pierre Polyev's approach than Arif Virani's approach, which will do nothing to stop the hate marches on the streets,
00:19:24.280 but will absolutely be used to silence the people who criticize those hate marches.
00:19:30.680 And do you doubt for a second that it'll be used against, say, Rebel News?
00:19:35.760 So, that's an interesting start to the show, and I hope you think so, and it's nice to have you here,
00:19:43.420 and I appreciate you.
00:19:44.280 We were a few minutes late because we were doing a special recording.
00:19:47.700 We were doing a special recording that we're going to play at our Rebel News Live conference,
00:19:56.740 which is being held in a few weeks in Calgary.
00:20:02.140 In fact, it's coming up quite quickly.
00:20:03.580 I'll be there, Alexa LaVoie, David, Menzies, Drea, Humphrey, Adams, so Sheila Gunn, Reed,
00:20:12.180 John Carpe from the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms,
00:20:15.720 Harrison Faulkner from our friends at True North,
00:20:20.920 Heather Mason, I don't know if you can see her.
00:20:22.820 She's in that little hexagon on the bottom left there.
00:20:25.640 She is very interesting in some ways.
00:20:31.260 I mean, listen, I've heard everyone here speak, so maybe I'm slightly immune to the charms of people who I've seen 10 times.
00:20:41.700 We have some amazing, Billboard Chris is coming, for example.
00:20:44.300 How much fun is that?
00:20:45.120 But Heather Mason, who's a very interesting person, who I had the chance to meet a few months ago,
00:20:51.580 she is the founder of something called Canadian Women's Sex-Based Rights.
00:20:56.700 Okay.
00:20:58.260 What does that mean?
00:20:58.960 Well, let me read her official biography.
00:21:01.180 Heather Mason, a former inmate at a women's penitentiary, will share her compelling personal story
00:21:06.340 that sheds light on pressing issue of male trans prisoners being placed alongside female prisoners.
00:21:11.440 Heather isn't merely an observer.
00:21:13.420 While in prison, Heather encountered men, including many sexual predators,
00:21:17.220 being placed with women and even babies in women-only facilities.
00:21:23.120 Can you imagine that?
00:21:27.760 There are, I don't know if you know this, and Efron, stop me if I've told this anecdote before.
00:21:33.680 Well, you're not going to stop me.
00:21:34.600 I'll tell it again.
00:21:37.380 I didn't know this, but as soon as you hear it, it makes sense to you.
00:21:40.180 Did you know that in Canadian prisons, women's prisons, if there's a woman who was a new mum,
00:21:49.600 the baby actually goes in prison with the mum.
00:21:53.740 Now, if that sounds weird to you, just stay with me for a second.
00:21:56.640 Let's say you've got like a three-month-old or a six-month-old, probably still breastfeeding.
00:22:02.860 They need almost round-the-clock attention from their mum.
00:22:06.900 And if you sent the mum into prison, now, first of all, it's got to be a pretty serious offense
00:22:12.020 to be sentenced to time in custody, to be incarcerated.
00:22:17.140 Very few criminals are jailed, and very, very few women are jailed.
00:22:24.160 But even if you are jailed, if you are a mum of a very small baby, the baby goes into jail with you.
00:22:33.860 Now, it's not, you know, big iron bars like Shawshank Redemption with a cop who takes, you know,
00:22:40.920 his baton and goes tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick on the bars.
00:22:43.600 It's not like that for women's prisons where kids are.
00:22:47.180 It's more like a dorm.
00:22:49.620 It's more like a common area with, like, it's more like a college dorm experience from what I've been told.
00:22:59.600 Okay, but here's my point.
00:23:03.420 Who are the men going into women's prisons?
00:23:05.660 Well, first of all, what man wouldn't prefer going into a woman's prison than a men's prison?
00:23:14.380 You're less likely to be killed or beaten up if you're in a women's prison.
00:23:20.000 It is easier living.
00:23:22.280 It is gentler surroundings.
00:23:24.300 It's a little bit less of that Shawshank Redemption prison.
00:23:27.400 But most importantly, if you are a sexual predator who is convicted, if you're a rapist,
00:23:38.280 God forbid, if you're a child rapist or a child molester,
00:23:42.300 there are several good reasons that you will say, I'm trans.
00:23:46.360 Let me in with the gals.
00:23:47.900 Reason number one is even amongst prisoners, even amongst murderers and thieves and robbers and terrorists,
00:23:57.080 there is a moral code.
00:24:00.540 And someone who abused a child is often at risk in a prison of being beat up or even killed
00:24:07.100 because other prisoners, even they have a sense of right and wrong.
00:24:13.040 So if you are a child molester, convicted pedophile, you don't want to be in a male prison because you may be killed.
00:24:23.700 You do want to be in a women's prison because it's gentler.
00:24:29.380 But that's where the women are, too.
00:24:31.640 So if you're a rapist, a convicted rapist, you want to be where the women are.
00:24:36.200 And as I just told you, there are children, there are young children in some of these prisons, too.
00:24:43.580 Our friend David Menzies actually attended a protest led by Heather Mason.
00:24:48.620 Let's play a little bit, just to get a little bit of a feeling for what the issue is.
00:24:54.860 Let's turn the sound up and play a bit.
00:24:57.040 And what it is that they're protesting is an absolutely egregious thing that is occurring in the penal system in Canada,
00:25:05.260 namely, going back to 2017, the Justin Trudeau Liberals and Correctional Service of Canada
00:25:12.360 thought it was a perfectly good idea to have male prisoners who identify as females
00:25:19.340 be incarcerated in female institutions.
00:25:23.580 And we are talking murderers.
00:25:25.640 We are talking rapists.
00:25:27.280 We are talking pedophiles.
00:25:29.400 And naturally, I know what you're thinking.
00:25:31.780 What could possibly go wrong?
00:25:33.360 Well, a lot can go wrong.
00:25:35.400 A lot of the women who are here, that is to say, the real biological women,
00:25:40.360 are at risk to their personal health and safety because they are in the same institution as biological males.
00:25:49.540 This is crazy.
00:25:52.240 And so it is that this group who is assembling here today is trying to create awareness of a truly egregious situation.
00:25:59.780 Let's hear what it is they have to say of radical transgenderism run amok.
00:26:06.720 I don't even know how to.
00:26:08.920 I lived with one of them in my unit for about six months.
00:26:13.680 And to witness how he, I will not, I will not call him a woman because he was not,
00:26:22.760 how he victimized women throughout the compound over that period of time absolutely floored me, disturbed me.
00:26:30.000 He sexually assaulted a woman in my house when we were there.
00:26:34.840 And when I first got here, I was told right away by some of the women to watch out for a certain prisoner.
00:26:41.420 And I said, wait, we have men here?
00:26:44.100 And they're like, yeah, we do.
00:26:45.660 But you're not allowed to call them men and you have to use she, her pronouns.
00:26:49.640 That was the beginning of when I realized that we were supposed to lie and go along with things and just remain silent.
00:26:58.240 That same person was sexually harassing multiple women on compound.
00:27:03.920 I experienced it.
00:27:05.680 Several of my friends experienced it.
00:27:07.520 And we all just stayed quiet about it because we thought that because we were criminalized and in prison,
00:27:14.480 that it was our fault for being here in the first place.
00:27:18.440 And we deserved what happened to us.
00:27:20.380 Well, I'm with Heather Mason of Canadian Women Sex-Based Rights.
00:27:25.680 And Heather, I mean, this is an incredible issue.
00:27:28.640 And I wonder how many people in the general population know that this is a thing that a male offender can simply say he identifies as being a woman
00:27:39.520 and suddenly he's in a female correctional facility such as this here, Grand Valley Institution for Women.
00:27:47.760 How did this become a thing in the first place?
00:27:51.540 I don't think a lot of people are really aware of what's going on.
00:27:54.960 But so Ontario passed their own human rights code in 2012 and the provincial jails started implementing it in 2015.
00:28:05.500 And that's when I first ran across like sex offenders that were not transitioned, who were trying to get into the women's prisons.
00:28:12.360 And then federally with Bill C-16 in 2017, they added gender identity and self-expression.
00:28:19.420 And then they started transferring in.
00:28:21.320 So they no longer required surgery because before the bill was passed, they had to have surgery in order to be in our institution.
00:28:29.260 You know, it sounds like public safety is no longer the underlying factor anymore.
00:28:34.280 It's we don't want any hurt feelings.
00:28:37.140 Even if you are, God forbid, a murderer or a rapist, we don't want to hurt your feelings if you identify as a female.
00:28:43.760 But hasn't anyone in the Correctional Service of Canada figured out that there might be men gaming the system, which is to say, I'm a heterosexual man.
00:28:54.800 If I got into trouble and got incarcerated into a male facility, are you telling me, Heather, I can just deviously say, hey, I'm a woman all of a sudden and I'm here?
00:29:05.400 Yes, you could. You could identify as a woman and then apply for a transfer.
00:29:10.820 Transgender men, so those are females that transition to be men, they are denied transfer due to overriding health and safety concerns because they'll be raped in a men's institution.
00:29:21.800 But that same courtesy isn't extended.
00:29:24.340 So they're not even considering that we'll be raped here.
00:29:28.560 They just get the entitlement of transgender status.
00:29:31.540 They get to apply for transfer and there's no scrutiny to it.
00:29:34.380 I can't believe what I'm hearing.
00:29:36.500 And yet when you stand up to this madness, and that's what I think this is, Heather, you are, I would imagine, and I'll be labeled this too, a transphobe.
00:29:47.060 That you cannot say anything wrong.
00:29:50.160 And yet all those dangerous male offenders are suddenly identifying as female.
00:29:55.280 The very fact that they're dangerous offenders mean they don't play by the rules.
00:30:01.720 Why doesn't Correctional Service of Canada think that maybe these are people that are, like I said before, gaming the system?
00:30:08.960 They're trying to get into an environment with vulnerable women.
00:30:13.320 I mean, who could possibly support this?
00:30:16.560 It blows my mind because there is documented proof of them gaming the system, especially Stephen Melbacher.
00:30:23.760 So he was in a men's institution for two decades.
00:30:27.260 And then while he was out, he ended up getting revoked on his parole.
00:30:31.180 Started identifying as a woman transferred into a woman's institution.
00:30:35.000 He was in Fraser Valley.
00:30:36.240 There was stuff that went on there.
00:30:37.360 He got transferred to Edmonton.
00:30:39.300 They involuntarily transferred him to Grand Valley.
00:30:42.260 He continued his shenanigans.
00:30:43.620 Now he's on criminal charges for sexual assault and harassment.
00:30:48.320 And he has an upcoming trial in the fall of this year.
00:30:52.040 But, you know, Heather, that's a lie, I'm sorry to say.
00:30:55.840 Trans women are real women.
00:30:57.860 We just, for example, published a book about transgenderism in sport.
00:31:02.160 And despite the discipline, whether it's cycling, weightlifting, mixed martial arts,
00:31:07.460 you have men now identifying as women cleaning the floor with their opponents and with good reason.
00:31:16.140 More muscle mass, greater respiratory, you know, systems.
00:31:21.660 It was ever thus that we always segregated male and female sport with the exception of equestrian and auto racing.
00:31:29.860 You know, the horse and the car being the difference.
00:31:33.640 So how can they possibly chant trans women are real women when we know by looking at elite sports that isn't the case?
00:31:43.140 Well, and it's the same when we start looking at the stats.
00:31:45.860 Who is more involved with sex crimes and violent crimes?
00:31:50.460 And, like, we have, for history, it shows the same, right?
00:31:55.060 And looking at the dangerous offender numbers.
00:31:56.860 So all that information and the stats are there.
00:31:59.420 They're just blatantly ignoring it now.
00:32:01.420 And there's actually nothing to prove that trans women are women.
00:32:05.560 And that if they identify as women, that means that they still have the same criminal patterns and behavior,
00:32:11.360 offending style, as actual females.
00:32:13.340 Like, it just, it all blows my mind.
00:32:15.020 I don't get it.
00:32:15.900 Hi.
00:32:16.420 Hi there.
00:32:17.720 How are you doing?
00:32:18.580 I'm good.
00:32:19.300 There was an understanding that the protest would be on the side of the...
00:32:23.300 Oh, I'm not a protester, ma'am.
00:32:24.620 I'm David Menzies of Rebel News.
00:32:27.120 Say, how many males pretending to be females do you have in this institution?
00:32:31.540 I have no response.
00:32:32.760 You have no response?
00:32:33.840 What do you think about women, real biological women, like you two, who are at risk?
00:32:39.460 On the sidewalk, please, sir.
00:32:41.040 It's fine.
00:32:41.680 You can talk all you want on the sidewalk.
00:32:44.580 What harm are we doing here on this private property?
00:32:47.540 We meant...
00:32:48.020 Okay, then.
00:32:48.580 Well, we're not springing out on anyone.
00:32:50.040 But what...
00:32:51.000 Why don't you have anything to say about male...
00:32:54.360 Males falsely passing themselves off as females and engendering real women, real women like you two?
00:33:00.680 No comment, sir.
00:33:01.180 No comment.
00:33:01.760 No comment.
00:33:02.620 Why can't you comment on that?
00:33:03.980 I mean, you are with this institution, are you not?
00:33:06.600 If you could go to the side of the institution, on the curb side, that would be great.
00:33:10.420 Is the reason for no comment, is that if you speak out against transgenderism, will you be fired or disciplined?
00:33:16.400 Is that why you won't comment?
00:33:18.300 No comment.
00:33:18.860 Thank you.
00:33:19.040 Do you not think that this is an egregious thing against the health and safety rights of women in this institution?
00:33:25.920 No comment, sir.
00:33:26.880 No comment?
00:33:27.600 Yeah.
00:33:28.360 Okay.
00:33:29.020 It's sorry to see real women, like yourselves, throw women inmates under the bus because of males pretending to be females.
00:33:37.280 Like I said, sir, their agreement was for the protest to be on the curb side.
00:33:42.440 This is Federal Reserve now.
00:33:43.960 Okay.
00:33:44.380 You're on Federal Reserve.
00:33:45.820 Okay.
00:33:46.180 So if you could go on the side of the curb, that would be great.
00:33:49.760 Well, I'll tell you what, if you're going to phone the police and charge me, I hereby identify as a female, so I want to be incarcerated in there.
00:33:57.060 What do you think about that?
00:33:59.040 Wasn't that a funny line?
00:34:00.400 You knew that was coming.
00:34:01.880 You absolutely knew that was coming, wasn't it?
00:34:04.440 David's saying, if you arrest me, I want you to put me in with the gals.
00:34:08.600 I'm laughing, but it's not very funny.
00:34:11.200 I've heard Heather Mason speak at some length.
00:34:14.300 And if you, in prison, if you didn't call the men ma'am or miss, if you didn't use their fake names, Chrissy or whatever they would have called themselves, the guards and the warden would punish you and you would have privileges taken away.
00:34:31.060 And, by the way, these trans prisoners, as you heard there, they don't actually go through any, you know, they're not, I mean, some of them may be on hormones or have surgery, but it's absolutely not required.
00:34:46.180 You just have to identify as a woman and you're put in a women's prison.
00:34:51.560 You can have a beard.
00:34:52.520 You can have your twig and berries.
00:34:54.560 In fact, most of them do.
00:34:56.460 What's so insane is that if you simply identify as a woman, even though you're full-blooded male, you can demand that your strip searches in the prison are conducted by the same gender, which would be women.
00:35:16.660 Let me say that again.
00:35:17.440 And let's say you're a sexual predator, convicted rapist, and molester.
00:35:22.020 You say, oh, I don't want to be in with the fellas.
00:35:24.700 Put me in with the gals.
00:35:25.920 I'm trans.
00:35:27.980 You don't have to do anything.
00:35:30.380 You don't have to go on hormones.
00:35:31.700 You don't have to get it cut off.
00:35:33.080 You just have to say, I'm trans.
00:35:34.880 And then you can say, and for my cavity search and my body search, I want a woman to search me because I'm trans.
00:35:43.920 And that is how it is at Corrections Canada.
00:35:46.320 That is a fact.
00:35:49.480 And you can just imagine the insane world.
00:35:52.380 You know, I think I might have told you this story before.
00:35:54.160 When I would visit Tommy Robinson in prison in the United Kingdom at HMP Belmarsh, a very strict prison facility, it's really their Guantanamo Bay.
00:36:05.820 Dogs sniff you.
00:36:07.280 When you go in, they search inside your mouth, which I've never had before.
00:36:13.220 You know, they search you in a number of ways.
00:36:16.680 They look in your mouth, or at least they looked in my mouth.
00:36:19.980 I don't know what they thought I was bringing in.
00:36:24.160 You had to take off your watch.
00:36:26.200 You had to take off your belt.
00:36:27.460 You had to, like it was, my point is the feeling, the number one feeling I had in prison was helplessness.
00:36:36.820 You were completely at the mercy of the guards and the warden.
00:36:41.920 And if they liked you, your life might be easier.
00:36:45.300 And if they didn't like you, your life would be terrible.
00:36:47.880 It was comparable to being an infant, to being a baby, that a parent could pick you up and do literally anything.
00:36:55.560 And so you've just got, you're totally helpless.
00:36:57.960 Obviously, you're not a little baby, but they have total authority over you.
00:37:02.960 And to me, that was the most terrifying thing about prison.
00:37:08.500 Obviously, other inmates who were murderers and terrorists and gangs, that's terrifying.
00:37:14.020 But just as terrifying was the whimsy of the guards.
00:37:17.180 And if, for whatever reason, the guards didn't like you, you would be at risk of anything, any sort of violence to you, any sort of mishap.
00:37:29.200 And I tell you that because imagine being a female prisoner and this child molester male rapist says, I'm trans.
00:37:39.720 And you can't ask for help.
00:37:41.960 And you can't fight back.
00:37:43.480 And you can't say, get him away from me.
00:37:45.520 Oh, you said him.
00:37:47.240 You misgendered him.
00:37:51.180 That's got to be absolutely terrifying.
00:37:54.080 Absolutely terrifying.
00:37:56.000 Hey, let's take a short break.
00:37:56.920 Let's run some ads, and we'll come back in a couple minutes, okay?
00:38:01.080 Here we go.
00:38:07.560 David Menzies for Rebel News here in downtown Toronto.
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00:41:23.400 There's a lot going on.
00:41:28.500 It's 1.50, so I want to hurry up a little bit.
00:41:31.220 I want to show you a video that's not got to do with...
00:41:34.360 I thought that was an interesting video about men and women's prisons.
00:41:37.420 Did you know about that?
00:41:38.180 I sort of knew about it, but I didn't think, well, what would it be like to be a woman in prison if a man was pushed in there with you?
00:41:47.040 And the nation tells us, so she's one of the guests at Rebel News Live, which will be in Calgary in about three weeks' time.
00:41:54.620 Hey, I want to show you a new video released by the Israel Defense Forces.
00:41:59.800 It's a very interesting video.
00:42:01.260 Where is Hamas' headquarters?
00:42:02.820 In some ways, the answer is, it's not in Gaza.
00:42:07.960 It's in Doha, Qatar, the capital city where the leadership of Hamas lives under the protection of the Qatari dictator.
00:42:18.200 I understand they actually live in the Four Seasons, which is quite a posh hotel.
00:42:25.520 And it makes sense, because if they actually lived in Gaza, they would probably be taken out by Israeli Special Forces.
00:42:32.820 But what about the actual commando, commanders for the terrorists on the ground?
00:42:42.660 I mean, it's one thing to make the big strategic moves and to order the big operations from Qatar.
00:42:49.460 But who's going to do the middle management of the actual terrorists on the ground in Gaza?
00:42:56.480 Well, those people would be in Gaza.
00:42:58.720 So where is that headquarters?
00:43:00.220 There are thousands of Hamas terrorists.
00:43:05.040 I saw one estimate of 20,000.
00:43:08.260 Okay, that's a lot of people.
00:43:09.660 So where's their command center?
00:43:12.180 Surely Israel could take it out, right?
00:43:15.100 Well, take a look at this.
00:43:16.420 Here's a video of where Israel says the command headquarters is.
00:43:20.840 Take a look.
00:43:21.280 Where are Hamas headquarters?
00:43:24.480 Are they under a school?
00:43:26.240 A university?
00:43:27.440 A mosque?
00:43:28.500 A hospital?
00:43:30.020 All of the above.
00:43:32.080 Based on a wide range of intelligence from the Intelligence Directorate and the ISA,
00:43:36.380 we have located Hamas' headquarters.
00:43:38.320 Underneath the Shifa Hospital compound.
00:43:42.440 Here you can see multiple underground complexes along with an access point located inside of a mosque
00:43:48.540 to a complex spiderweb of terrorist infrastructure used to plan and conduct terrorist activities.
00:43:56.160 Hamas has blatantly placed their own civilians as their shields.
00:43:59.640 Not only do they hide underneath it,
00:44:02.340 they also abuse the hospital's electricity and fuel supply that should be used for the people of Gaza.
00:44:15.000 Hamas controls the energy resources of Gaza.
00:44:17.980 Hamas has chosen to divert these vital resources for terrorism at the expense of Gazan people.
00:44:25.060 This is a tragic reality for Gazans, and Hamas is responsible for it.
00:44:34.360 So how do you handle that?
00:44:36.020 What do you do if they literally build an underground bunker beneath a hospital?
00:44:42.580 And of course they do.
00:44:44.980 Because that's the safest place.
00:44:48.020 Why?
00:44:49.920 Because if the opponent was Vladimir Putin,
00:44:52.680 or if the opponent was the Pentagon,
00:44:58.100 if the opponent was any other army in the world,
00:45:01.780 they would bomb it.
00:45:03.700 And I know that because I am unaware of any other war in history
00:45:08.740 where every single casualty,
00:45:12.660 including fake casualties trumped up by Hamas,
00:45:15.620 is international news.
00:45:17.000 Do you know how many people the United States and the U.K. killed in the war against Saddam Hussein?
00:45:26.960 And by the way, that's how wars are.
00:45:30.580 There's casualties.
00:45:32.280 The estimates are around a million.
00:45:34.020 And you know that in World War II,
00:45:38.520 there were tens of millions of civilian casualties.
00:45:41.480 Tens of millions.
00:45:43.080 Including the most obvious cases,
00:45:46.220 Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
00:45:47.880 Two civilian cities that were targeted,
00:45:52.240 not for a particular military base,
00:45:55.280 but the cities themselves were targeted.
00:45:58.080 The fire bombings of Tokyo,
00:46:00.880 the fire bombings of Dresden.
00:46:05.360 And I'm not saying I like any of that.
00:46:07.980 I'm just saying,
00:46:09.080 do you think for one second
00:46:10.760 that if Hitler put his bunker
00:46:14.700 underneath a hospital,
00:46:17.940 a church,
00:46:19.260 a playground,
00:46:20.080 a school,
00:46:20.700 do you think for one second
00:46:22.360 the Soviet Union
00:46:25.100 and the other allies
00:46:27.500 would have hesitated to bomb it?
00:46:30.080 Are you kidding?
00:46:32.560 I mean,
00:46:33.100 the Red Army itself
00:46:34.140 just ground into powder
00:46:35.920 everything in front of it.
00:46:38.860 Here, let's look at some more.
00:46:40.320 Are those new images here?
00:46:41.860 So these are produced
00:46:43.040 by the Israeli Defense Force.
00:46:44.260 They're hidden under the guise of a hospital.
00:46:45.640 Hamas uses 1,500 beds
00:46:46.980 and approximately 4,000 staff
00:46:49.160 as cover to plan terrorist attacks.
00:46:51.600 They hide convicted murderers
00:46:53.320 and store weapons for terrorism,
00:46:55.100 endangering thousands of patients
00:46:56.380 and staff at the hospital.
00:46:59.080 Well, we know,
00:46:59.820 I mean,
00:47:00.060 and this isn't news.
00:47:01.380 I think it's a new release
00:47:03.360 that the IDF has put out,
00:47:06.080 but I think it's been
00:47:07.220 pretty well known for years.
00:47:10.360 And it's acknowledged
00:47:12.200 by many other authorities.
00:47:15.180 I mean,
00:47:15.480 I don't even think
00:47:16.260 that's controversial.
00:47:18.200 In fact,
00:47:18.620 last I saw it
00:47:19.300 was actually in the Wikipedia page.
00:47:21.600 For the Al-Shifa hospital,
00:47:23.940 not that Wikipedia means anything,
00:47:25.800 anyone can edit Wikipedia,
00:47:27.480 but like it's,
00:47:28.740 it's even the pro-Hamas
00:47:30.980 left-wing editors of Wikipedia
00:47:33.180 acknowledge that it happened.
00:47:36.480 So how do you go about that?
00:47:39.940 Do you think any other army
00:47:41.640 in the world would hesitate
00:47:42.640 to take out
00:47:43.940 the command headquarters
00:47:46.540 of a terrorist group?
00:47:53.720 So anyways,
00:47:54.600 I want to take,
00:47:55.560 it's 156 Eastern time,
00:47:57.540 so we're almost done anyways,
00:47:58.560 but I do want to
00:47:59.520 switch towards
00:48:01.000 a Canadian topic.
00:48:05.400 A couple of Canadian topics,
00:48:07.020 maybe.
00:48:07.360 I'm not sure how much time we have.
00:48:08.800 Let's go to
00:48:14.520 Danielle Smith.
00:48:16.200 And I know I'm just
00:48:16.800 completely shifting gears here,
00:48:18.320 but Israel and Hamas
00:48:20.100 and the war
00:48:20.600 is not the only thing
00:48:21.300 in the world.
00:48:21.660 We're interested
00:48:22.140 in other things too.
00:48:24.780 So here's Danielle Smith,
00:48:27.160 who is actually attending
00:48:29.560 like a lefty
00:48:30.940 environmentalist event,
00:48:32.740 which I guess
00:48:34.420 I give her credit for doing.
00:48:36.320 I mean,
00:48:37.300 they hate Alberta.
00:48:38.180 They're funded.
00:48:38.820 It's the Pembina Institute.
00:48:40.500 They're funded by foreign sources
00:48:42.080 to shut down
00:48:43.920 Alberta's oil patch
00:48:44.940 for the benefit of OPEC
00:48:46.420 and Russia.
00:48:47.740 I mean,
00:48:48.180 they're pretty,
00:48:49.040 it's like Greenpeace.
00:48:50.240 When was the last time
00:48:50.960 you ever saw Greenpeace
00:48:52.100 complain about
00:48:52.960 an OPEC country?
00:48:55.380 Saudi Arabia,
00:48:56.060 Iran,
00:48:56.360 Iraq,
00:48:56.740 Nigeria,
00:48:57.240 Venezuela,
00:48:58.300 Qatar.
00:48:58.780 You just never do,
00:48:59.860 which is really,
00:49:00.740 really noticeable.
00:49:01.480 Once you say it,
00:49:02.620 you can't unnotice it again.
00:49:04.980 I mean,
00:49:06.260 they're against
00:49:07.380 North American energy
00:49:08.540 and the UK actually
00:49:11.520 has some North Shore
00:49:12.480 offshore oil.
00:49:14.980 But you would think,
00:49:16.380 I mean,
00:49:16.720 Venezuela and Saudi Arabia
00:49:18.080 are the number one
00:49:18.860 and number two
00:49:19.860 oil reserves
00:49:21.880 in the world.
00:49:22.460 Canada is number three.
00:49:23.360 Depends on how you measure
00:49:24.240 Canada's number two
00:49:25.520 or number three.
00:49:27.700 Why are they silent
00:49:28.500 about Venezuela?
00:49:29.060 Why are they silent
00:49:30.080 about all those
00:49:31.000 other OPEC regimes?
00:49:31.900 And so if you've got
00:49:34.040 a group like
00:49:34.600 the Pembina Foundation,
00:49:37.080 the Pembina Institute,
00:49:38.460 that just craps
00:49:40.200 on Canadian ethical oil,
00:49:42.820 it's obvious
00:49:43.480 that they're
00:49:44.440 either with full knowledge
00:49:46.920 or unwittingly
00:49:48.060 in the service
00:49:49.480 of Russia,
00:49:51.360 Saudi Arabia,
00:49:52.160 Iran.
00:49:53.300 And that's not
00:49:53.940 just speculation.
00:49:54.840 What's the world's
00:49:55.700 largest natural gas company?
00:49:58.460 There's different ways
00:49:59.480 of measuring.
00:49:59.960 You could say
00:50:00.420 that Qatar is up there,
00:50:01.480 but Gazprom
00:50:02.300 is probably the answer.
00:50:04.200 That's the Russian
00:50:05.380 state strategic company.
00:50:11.100 So there is
00:50:11.720 some private sector
00:50:12.480 ownership of it,
00:50:13.180 but the Kremlin
00:50:14.220 controls it.
00:50:15.160 It cannot enter
00:50:16.100 into any foreign contracts
00:50:17.320 without the approval
00:50:18.840 of Putin.
00:50:21.420 And that's a long way
00:50:22.200 of saying
00:50:22.560 Danielle Smith,
00:50:23.460 the premier of Alberta,
00:50:24.300 attended a conference
00:50:26.540 put on by these
00:50:27.760 oil patch haters.
00:50:29.400 Is it a good idea or not?
00:50:30.700 I'm not sure.
00:50:31.980 This is a version
00:50:32.900 of the video
00:50:33.600 with the countersignal
00:50:35.040 logo on it,
00:50:36.040 but it's not their video.
00:50:36.980 It was, I think,
00:50:37.700 published by Max Fawcett.
00:50:40.200 But let's take a look
00:50:41.600 at Danielle Smith
00:50:43.880 sparring
00:50:45.520 with an environmentalist.
00:50:49.540 I think she gets
00:50:51.160 the better of them.
00:50:51.760 You take a look.
00:50:53.100 Does anyone think
00:50:53.840 that would be possible
00:50:54.720 to get that built
00:50:55.960 in 12 years
00:50:57.000 starting now?
00:50:58.640 I mean,
00:50:59.060 you talk to,
00:51:02.060 you go ahead,
00:51:02.920 you go ahead
00:51:03.440 and talk to
00:51:03.880 Jonathan Wilkinson
00:51:04.720 then,
00:51:04.900 because I can tell you,
00:51:06.000 I can tell you
00:51:07.020 Site C began in 1954.
00:51:09.400 Site C began in 1954.
00:51:12.920 Fine.
00:51:13.400 Do you think I can get,
00:51:14.600 do you think I can get
00:51:15.600 an equivalent amount
00:51:17.260 of nuclear rolled out
00:51:18.120 in 12 years?
00:51:19.140 Do you think I could do that
00:51:19.960 in an environment
00:51:21.080 that we've never had
00:51:21.800 nuclear before?
00:51:22.820 I don't want to interrupt
00:51:23.780 the two of you.
00:51:25.860 What do you know?
00:51:28.640 What do you know
00:51:29.540 that my industry experts
00:51:30.780 don't know about?
00:51:33.760 Well, you know,
00:51:34.640 and what do I do
00:51:35.360 when there's no sun
00:51:36.140 and there's no wind?
00:51:38.240 Batteries?
00:51:38.720 Let's talk about batteries
00:51:39.720 because I've talked
00:51:40.500 to somebody.
00:51:41.360 I want to talk about
00:51:42.500 batteries for a minute
00:51:43.280 because I know
00:51:43.940 that everybody thinks
00:51:44.740 that this economy
00:51:45.480 is going to be operated
00:51:46.420 on wind and solar
00:51:47.220 and battery power
00:51:48.060 and it cannot.
00:51:48.960 There is no industrialized
00:51:51.040 economy in the world
00:51:51.820 operating that way
00:51:52.640 because they need
00:51:53.400 baseload.
00:51:54.440 And I'll tell you
00:51:54.920 what I know about batteries
00:51:55.760 because I talked to somebody
00:51:56.720 who was thinking
00:51:57.260 of investing in it
00:51:58.080 on a 200 megawatt plant.
00:52:00.340 One million dollars
00:52:01.720 to be able to get
00:52:02.920 each megawatt stored.
00:52:04.600 That's 200 million dollars
00:52:05.980 for his plant alone
00:52:06.920 and he would get
00:52:07.940 one hour of storage.
00:52:09.860 So if you want me
00:52:10.440 to have 12,000 megawatts
00:52:12.780 of storage,
00:52:13.340 that's 12 billion dollars
00:52:14.600 for one hour of storage.
00:52:16.160 24 billion dollars
00:52:17.360 for two hours of storage.
00:52:18.600 36 billion dollars
00:52:20.100 for three hours of storage.
00:52:21.900 And there are
00:52:22.360 long stretches
00:52:23.380 in winter
00:52:24.440 where we can go
00:52:25.240 weeks without wind
00:52:26.040 or solar.
00:52:26.620 That is the reason
00:52:27.600 why we need
00:52:28.660 legitimate,
00:52:29.820 real solutions
00:52:30.900 that rely on
00:52:32.040 baseload power
00:52:32.880 rather than
00:52:33.420 fantasy thinking.
00:52:34.540 And I am not going
00:52:35.520 to engage in
00:52:36.080 fantasy thinking
00:52:36.920 and say something
00:52:38.020 is possible
00:52:38.700 when I know
00:52:39.540 that my principal job
00:52:40.680 is to have
00:52:43.280 a reliable energy grid.
00:52:44.700 That's what
00:52:45.020 I'm trying to do.
00:52:45.740 I think I understand
00:52:48.000 that got interesting,
00:52:50.200 didn't it?
00:52:51.580 So there she was
00:52:53.160 sparring
00:52:53.860 with some
00:52:55.100 environmental activists
00:52:55.920 and good for her.
00:52:57.520 What did she call it?
00:52:58.080 Fantasy thinking.
00:52:59.040 Yeah, I remember
00:53:02.300 when I published
00:53:03.460 my book
00:53:03.800 Ethical Oil,
00:53:04.560 The Case for Canada's
00:53:05.400 Oil Sands
00:53:05.820 and then I did
00:53:06.280 a follow-up
00:53:06.840 called Groundswell,
00:53:08.060 The Case for Fracking.
00:53:10.040 I said that
00:53:11.220 the test for
00:53:13.360 energy ethics
00:53:14.880 is not
00:53:15.980 oil
00:53:16.800 with all
00:53:17.800 of its problems
00:53:18.800 versus some
00:53:20.200 fantasy fuel
00:53:20.880 of the future
00:53:21.320 that's perfect
00:53:21.800 in every way
00:53:22.400 other than it
00:53:22.880 doesn't exist.
00:53:23.620 like dilithium
00:53:25.100 crystals
00:53:25.600 in Star Trek
00:53:26.520 or if you ever
00:53:27.660 watched the
00:53:28.380 Insufferable
00:53:29.420 Avatar series,
00:53:31.080 I only watched
00:53:32.480 the first one,
00:53:33.440 they were looking
00:53:34.160 for an element
00:53:35.080 called unobtainium
00:53:36.800 which is pretty
00:53:38.680 on the nose,
00:53:39.480 isn't it?
00:53:40.760 Unobtainium.
00:53:41.640 It's perfect
00:53:42.600 except we just
00:53:43.320 don't have it.
00:53:44.480 So if you're
00:53:44.980 comparing oil
00:53:46.360 or gas
00:53:47.660 or nuclear
00:53:48.660 against some
00:53:50.100 fantasy fuel
00:53:50.780 of the future,
00:53:51.260 of course it's not
00:53:51.920 going to measure up.
00:53:54.240 But if you are
00:53:56.260 in real life,
00:53:57.500 you have to
00:53:58.240 say serious things
00:54:01.540 and saying,
00:54:02.480 oh, we'll just
00:54:03.060 have solar
00:54:04.140 and wind
00:54:04.640 and then these
00:54:05.240 giant batteries
00:54:06.340 and that'll work.
00:54:08.440 Maybe one day
00:54:09.640 it will.
00:54:10.680 I mean,
00:54:11.040 never say never.
00:54:12.000 I mean,
00:54:12.120 there's some smart
00:54:12.780 guys out there
00:54:13.580 like Elon Musk
00:54:14.460 really trying
00:54:15.460 to make it work
00:54:16.140 but Elon Musk
00:54:17.320 is not against
00:54:18.160 oil or gas
00:54:19.360 or nuclear.
00:54:20.700 In fact,
00:54:21.040 he says it's
00:54:21.520 all essential.
00:54:22.440 How are you
00:54:22.660 going to power
00:54:23.040 the electrical?
00:54:23.620 Solar ain't
00:54:24.700 going to do it.
00:54:25.080 Maybe one day.
00:54:27.120 I mean,
00:54:27.660 could be.
00:54:30.160 I mean,
00:54:30.760 they've been
00:54:31.000 trying to make
00:54:31.480 alchemy work
00:54:32.200 for a few
00:54:32.720 centuries,
00:54:34.220 turn lead
00:54:34.980 into gold.
00:54:36.540 Maybe one day
00:54:37.400 they can.
00:54:38.060 Who am I
00:54:38.480 to say otherwise
00:54:39.220 but so far
00:54:39.820 they haven't.
00:54:40.920 Maybe one day
00:54:41.960 the unreliables
00:54:43.180 as Alex Epstein
00:54:44.140 calls them.
00:54:44.660 He says,
00:54:45.820 don't say
00:54:46.640 renewables
00:54:47.060 and non-renewables.
00:54:48.000 Say
00:54:48.200 reliables
00:54:49.460 and unreliables.
00:54:51.940 Solar
00:54:52.300 don't work
00:54:52.840 when it's
00:54:53.260 dark out.
00:54:54.940 Wind
00:54:55.160 don't work
00:54:55.640 when it's
00:54:55.940 not windy
00:54:56.320 or
00:54:56.740 when it's
00:54:57.740 too windy.
00:54:59.660 And
00:55:00.080 by the way,
00:55:01.120 the amount
00:55:01.440 of space
00:55:02.040 taken out
00:55:02.600 by solar
00:55:03.060 and wind
00:55:03.460 is enormous
00:55:04.600 compared to
00:55:05.560 the tiny footprint
00:55:06.600 of a nuclear
00:55:07.140 plant or even
00:55:07.980 oil and gas,
00:55:08.820 most of which
00:55:09.400 is under
00:55:09.720 the surface.
00:55:10.240 so
00:55:12.560 if someone
00:55:15.140 says,
00:55:15.600 no,
00:55:15.760 no,
00:55:15.940 no,
00:55:16.160 I've got
00:55:16.480 just around
00:55:17.140 the corner
00:55:17.500 we've got
00:55:17.780 this perfect
00:55:18.300 techno future.
00:55:19.700 Okay,
00:55:19.960 let me know
00:55:20.340 when that's
00:55:20.720 here but
00:55:21.040 in the meantime
00:55:21.520 I think
00:55:22.100 I've got
00:55:22.380 to fill
00:55:22.660 my car
00:55:23.120 up with
00:55:23.440 gas
00:55:23.720 today
00:55:24.040 or
00:55:24.220 tomorrow.
00:55:25.460 So
00:55:25.600 while you
00:55:26.200 guys
00:55:26.520 are
00:55:26.720 daydreaming
00:55:27.240 about
00:55:27.480 your
00:55:27.680 fantasy
00:55:28.180 Star Trek
00:55:28.940 fuel
00:55:29.280 source,
00:55:30.480 I've got
00:55:31.300 to fill
00:55:31.520 up my
00:55:31.800 car
00:55:32.100 with
00:55:32.280 gas
00:55:32.580 and
00:55:32.720 the
00:55:32.860 choice
00:55:33.340 back
00:55:34.260 here
00:55:34.460 in the
00:55:34.640 real
00:55:34.820 world
00:55:35.120 is
00:55:36.600 either
00:55:36.780 between
00:55:37.140 conflict
00:55:37.980 energy
00:55:38.660 from
00:55:40.100 Saudi
00:55:40.460 Arabia
00:55:40.800 Venezuela
00:55:41.280 Nigeria
00:55:41.800 Russia
00:55:42.320 or
00:55:43.940 ethical
00:55:44.320 energy
00:55:44.860 from
00:55:46.000 it's a
00:55:46.340 very
00:55:46.600 short
00:55:46.940 list
00:55:47.160 of
00:55:47.300 countries
00:55:47.800 Canada
00:55:48.520 the
00:55:49.460 United
00:55:49.740 States
00:55:50.320 North
00:55:51.400 Sea
00:55:51.740 oil
00:55:52.060 which
00:55:52.420 you know
00:55:53.280 Norway
00:55:54.160 UK
00:55:54.760 that's
00:55:56.020 about
00:55:56.560 it
00:55:57.200 it's
00:55:58.880 not
00:55:59.040 from
00:55:59.180 the
00:55:59.300 chocolate
00:55:59.560 making
00:55:59.840 superpowers
00:56:00.520 of you
00:56:00.880 know
00:56:00.980 Switzerland
00:56:01.340 and
00:56:01.640 Belgium
00:56:01.960 those
00:56:02.480 are
00:56:02.560 good
00:56:02.700 places
00:56:03.080 but
00:56:03.400 they
00:56:03.580 don't
00:56:03.700 have
00:56:03.820 any
00:56:03.960 oil
00:56:04.260 so
00:56:06.420 good
00:56:06.680 for
00:56:06.920 her
00:56:07.120 for
00:56:07.360 going
00:56:07.680 into
00:56:08.020 the
00:56:08.220 lion's
00:56:08.620 den
00:56:08.860 and
00:56:09.920 saying
00:56:10.360 you know
00:56:11.240 back
00:56:11.460 here
00:56:11.660 in
00:56:11.800 reality
00:56:12.240 what
00:56:12.740 you're
00:56:12.940 talking
00:56:13.200 about
00:56:13.560 is
00:56:14.240 a
00:56:14.400 fantasy
00:56:14.840 all
00:56:16.640 righty
00:56:17.040 well
00:56:17.340 it
00:56:17.680 is
00:56:18.220 2
00:56:18.720 0
00:56:19.080 4
00:56:19.500 PM
00:56:20.120 thank
00:56:20.780 you
00:56:21.040 for
00:56:21.440 staying
00:56:21.800 with
00:56:22.020 us
00:56:22.340 I'm
00:56:22.600 going
00:56:22.660 to
00:56:22.780 sign
00:56:23.000 off
00:56:23.340 I'll
00:56:23.520 be
00:56:23.620 back
00:56:23.940 at
00:56:24.100 8
00:56:24.280 PM
00:56:24.500 Eastern
00:56:24.760 time
00:56:25.180 with
00:56:26.320 my
00:56:26.720 monologue
00:56:27.240 and
00:56:28.300 we'll
00:56:29.300 have a
00:56:29.540 special
00:56:29.980 video
00:56:30.760 from
00:56:31.020 Aviyamini
00:56:31.620 who is
00:56:32.080 in
00:56:32.320 Israel
00:56:32.760 apparently
00:56:33.220 there's
00:56:33.520 an
00:56:33.660 enormous
00:56:34.320 aerial
00:56:35.160 bombardment
00:56:35.880 of Gaza
00:56:36.340 going on
00:56:37.000 right now
00:56:37.580 which may
00:56:39.000 be the
00:56:39.700 preliminary
00:56:41.700 round
00:56:44.540 of a land
00:56:45.580 invasion
00:56:46.020 who knows
00:56:47.100 until
00:56:48.820 tonight at
00:56:49.340 8 PM
00:56:49.920 Eastern
00:56:50.300 on behalf
00:56:50.820 of all
00:56:51.100 of us
00:56:51.360 here at
00:56:51.800 Rebel
00:56:52.180 World
00:56:52.540 Headquarters
00:56:53.100 to you
00:56:53.420 at home
00:56:53.760 goodbye
00:56:54.780 and keep
00:56:56.040 fighting
00:56:56.300 for freedom
00:56:56.840 you