DAILY Roundup ｜ Trudeau meets Ukrainian Nazi sympathizer, NDP MPP says he was punched at protes
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Justin Trudeau met with Ukraine's most senior Nazi advocate and Holocaust denier, Andrei Melnick. Ezra takes a look at the details of the meeting and explains why he thinks Melnick is the leading Nazi in Ukraine.
Transcript
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Hi everybody, Ezra Levant here. What a pleasure to be here. I'm glad to be here for this live
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stream. Often my colleagues, Sheila Gunn-Reed and David Menzies sit here, but how can I stay
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away because of the crazy things that have been happening over the weekend? I will talk a bit
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about Justin Trudeau meeting with Ukraine's most senior Nazi advocate and Holocaust denier,
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Andrei Melnick. Now you might be saying, Ezra, are you throwing that term around lightly? Calling
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someone a Nazi, that's odious. That's defamatory. Don't do that. I know that Justin Trudeau calls
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people Nazi very casually. He called the truckers Nazis. He calls basically anyone who opposes him
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a Nazi. He's implied that anyone who met with Christine Anderson, the member of the European
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Union, who visited a few months ago was a Nazi. I don't do that. I'm a Jew myself and I don't often
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reach for the anti-Semitism word because I don't want to dull it by overusing it. There are some
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anti-Semites in the world. I don't want to throw the word around all the time. It's like the boy who
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cries wolf. You want to keep that word sharp like a rarely used knife. You don't want to dull it with
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overuse because when you finally do encounter a Nazi, you need that word to have meaning. Justin
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Trudeau profanes that word every time he calls a trucker a Nazi or a conservative a Nazi. So
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I think he does that on purpose, by the way. I want to take just a couple minutes on the Nazi
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because I'm going to do my whole show about it tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern. Justin Trudeau
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went to Kiev on a surprise trip. It's not surprising in a way because Trudeau's not having a lot of fun
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back in Canada these days. His special rapporteur resigned in disgrace. A new poll by Abacus shows only
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20 percent of Canadians think he deserves to be reelected. And Abacus is a Liberal Party pollster.
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Only 20 percent of Canadians, they say this is Abacus, only 20 percent think he deserves to be
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reelected. If you're Justin Trudeau, of course you're going to fly on your private jet, a luxury
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jet, to Europe and then show up in Kiev and give away half a billion dollars in cash
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and be treated like a rock star. I mean, if you're going to give half a billion tax dollars
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without a debate or vote in Parliament, whoever you're giving it to is going to make you feel
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pretty good as opposed to in Canada where Trudeau is mocked and despised. Here's that poll by David
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Coleto's Abacus. You can see the red bar there is, I think Justin Trudeau and the Liberals deserve to
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be reelected. Only 20 percent of Canadians say that. 50 percent say it's time for a change. 31 percent
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it's time for a change, but I'm not sure if there's a good alternative. But only 20 percent say no, no,
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no. Trudeau deserves to be reelected. Let me just play quickly. Do you have that clip? It's in my posted,
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my pinned tweet. I want to play for you a little bit of this Andrei Melnyk. I want you to know that
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when I say he's Ukraine's leading Nazi, I'm not saying that as an insult, although it should be
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insulting. I'm not saying that as hyperbole. He is the deputy foreign minister. And in this
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extensive interview, he explains why the Nazis did not, in fact, do atrocious things to the Jews.
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Ukraine's leading Nazi, Stepan Bandera, was not a bad dude. The Jews are lying about it.
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The Jews and Poland and Germany and Russia are all lying about it. No, no, no. There was no
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killing of the Jews. And the Jews are lying. And Stepan Bandera, the leading Nazi, was a good egg.
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And he was saying this at the time as Ukraine's ambassador to Germany. So this is not a nobody.
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When I say this is the leading Nazi in Ukraine, I mean, you can't get any higher on the pyramid than
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this guy. But the thing about Germany is they're so sensitive to their Nazi past. They're actually
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a liberal democracy in all ways except for one. When it comes to freedom of speech, they do not allow
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Nazis. It's against the law to express support for national socialism. You cannot fly a swastika.
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You cannot say Sieg Heil or Heil Hitler. You cannot promote Nazism. You can in Canada.
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You can fly a Nazi flag and it'll be odious and people will shame you and scorn you as it should
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be. But that's not actually a crime. In Germany, it is a crime. And here you have the Ukrainian
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ambassador to Germany giving the most bold defense of Nazism that I think has been said since 1945.
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Here, I'm just going to play two minutes. This is an excerpt from an extended pro-Nazi rant
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that got Andrei Melnyk fired, created an international diplomatic incident. He was denounced by the Polish
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foreign ministry, by the Israeli foreign ministry. And Germany said to Ukraine, either you take this guy
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voluntarily have him resign or we are going to fire him and declare him persona non grata. We are going
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to deport your Nazi. Come get your Nazi. Come take your Nazi back. And in fact, they did. This interview
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was so shocking that Germany essentially fired him. They let Ukraine withdraw him as opposed to,
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imagine, deporting a Ukrainian ambassador. They did Zelensky a favor by letting Zelensky take
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the sky back. This is less than a year ago. Take a look.
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It was, what you said. It was a massacre in Poland in the West Ukraine, which was
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carried out by the Banderas. Yeah. And it was on the same way the same
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massacre of Poland gegenüber Ukraine. That was not better.
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It was a war. That was a war. That was a war. That was a war. That was a war. That was a war
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a war. And so that was the Poles, also this Geschichte politisieren. Wir sind dagegen.
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Aber hat Israel Unrecht? Israel, der Staat Israel, dass 800.000 Juden auch von Banderas Truppen
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und Bandera umgehen? Also Israel, was heißt? Denken die sich das aus? Ich weiß nicht, was
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sie sich ausdenken, aber wir reden über Bandera. Und wir reden über Bandera. Und die ganze
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Welt erkennt an, dass Bandera an der Ermordung von hunderttausenden Juden beteiligt ist.
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Nein, das stimmt nicht. Außer die Ukraine. Es gibt keine Belege, dass Bandera Truppen
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hunderttausende Juden ermordet haben. Es gibt keine Belege. Das ist diese Narrative, dass die Russen
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bis heute durchsetzen und das in Deutschland und auch in Polen und Israel auch unterstützen
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können. Denken sich die jüdischen Gemeinden das alle aus?
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Ich weiß nicht, woher sie diese Daten nehmen, aber ich bin bereit, auch mit den jüdischen
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Gemeinden darüber sachlich zu reden, wenn sie wirklich nicht nur das wiederholen, was
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wir seit Jahrzehnten hören. Es gab Flugblätter, als die Deutschen reingekommen sind nach
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Reviv. Da hieß es, Volk, das musst du wissen. Moskowiten, Polen, Ungaren und Juden, sie
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sind deine Feinde. Vernichte sie. Das musst du wissen. Deine Führung. Dein Führer, Stepan
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Als die Deutschen gerade einmarschiert sind, da haben sie quasi an die Bevölkerung das verteilt,
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die ja noch unter anderer Herrschaft dann da waren. Die haben sich ja mit den Deutschen
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verbrüdert. Das ist doch ganz klar. Und ich frage mich halt, ich meine, ich verstehe...
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Also ich werde dir heute nicht sagen, dass ich mich davon distanziere. Und das war's.
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Ja, und das war's. Das ist ja deine Entscheidung.
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Ja, das ist meine Entscheidung und das kannst du nicht verstehen, aber weil...
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Ich verstehe nicht, wie man jemanden als Helden bezeichnen kann, der gleichzeitig Massenmörder
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Bandera war kein Massenmörder. Von Juden und Polen. Er war kein Massenmörder.
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That is the dictionary definition of Holocaust denial.
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That interviewer was literally reading Bandera's leaflets as one of, what, 10,000 examples you
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can give. It is a historical fact. In fact, I've actually never seen it denied this way.
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Could you imagine that was the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany defending Nazis, saying the Jews,
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I don't believe, I don't believe the Jews or the Poles or the Germans or the Russians.
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You know that Germany, it's against the law to propagate Nazi narratives.
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I frankly think that their laws are too strict.
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I believe that bad ideas should be chased out by good ideas.
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I believe that that interviewer just made Melnick look like what he is.
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That's how you take on a Nazi, by being prepared, by having your arguments, by having your facts.
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I think that Melnick was completely exposed there.
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In Germany, what that ambassador said was actually a crime.
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And I say again, I don't believe in criminalizing hate.
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So they basically said to Vladimir Zelensky, because this wasn't even a year ago.
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They said to Zelensky, come get your Nazi or we're going to kick him out.
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And they said, come get him or we're going to kick him out.
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And look at Andrei Melnick's tweet on Saturday.
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How did I learn that Trudeau was meeting with Andrei Melnick?
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He literally met Trudeau when Trudeau stepped off the train.
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But strangely, that wasn't mentioned by Trudeau or any of the regime media who were accompanying it.
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Welcome to Ukraine, Mr. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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And the guy shaking his hand is Andrei Melnick.
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You recognize him from the podcast we just saw.
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So half a million views, thousands of interactions there.
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The Nazi Holocaust denier who was kicked out of Germany gets to meet with Trudeau.
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And of course he's going to tweet that because it's validation.
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Look, here's a liberal prime minister, very woke, very progressive, very human rights sensitive.
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And I'm going to tour him around town and he's going to treat me with respect.
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I don't care what Germany or Poland or Russia says.
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Click on Trudeau's name handle there for a second.
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Scroll down to June 10th because that's when he rolled into town.
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And then, yeah, so there's Zelensky having a hug.
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Yeah, they're talking about the plane they seized.
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But he did not share a photo of him meeting with Andre Melnick.
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because Andre Melnick was having his reputation cleaned by Trudeau.
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Okay, so this picture was taken by Canadian press.
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So there's Trudeau in front of some, I think it's a burnt out tank.
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To his right, I believe that's Chrystia Freeland in the sunglasses.
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And you can see Andre Melnick on the left there.
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Like I say, Melnick was taking him around town.
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Can you show me the caption on the photo, if possible?
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Because this photo was used in the Globe and Mail as well.
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And they didn't, I read the entire accompanying story.
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So Trudeau, like, were they not curious who this man is,
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who's greeting Trudeau, who's shepherding him around Kiev?
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Like, it wasn't Zelensky who met Trudeau at the train.
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So it was the photo tweeted by Mark McKinnon in the Globe and Mail.
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My point is that the world, sorry, all the journalists knew.
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visits an exhibition of destroyed vehicles in Kiev, Ukraine,
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Saturday, June 10th, from Valentin Ogienko of Post via AP.
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So you'll notice that they name Trudeau and Freeland,
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And every photo I saw was silent on who that guy is,
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because they know he's a Nazi Holocaust denier.
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And Trudeau is pretty brazen about it, but they just, I don't know,
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maybe they're afraid of being jailed by Vladimir Zelensky,
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They're, maybe they're stunned that Trudeau would be hanging out with us.
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Like, let me just tell you, this is not my judgment that he's unacceptable.
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Imagine a diplomat being kicked out of a country.
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When was the last time Canada kicked out a Chinese diplomat?
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Or, you know, how often does it happen that you're kicked out?
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Germany kicked this guy out because he was so odious,
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Maybe not so much these days, but about a decade ago,
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I was on the board of the Canada-Israel Committee,
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which is like a Jewish advocacy group, a lobby group.
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It was later merged into a large thing called the CJA,
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C-I-J-A, the Canadian Institute for Jewish Fairs,
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or I forget it, Center for Israel and Jewish Fairs.
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So I was on the board of that when it was called the Canada-Israel Committee,
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So for a couple of years I was on the board of that.
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Like they tried to have some liberals and some conservatives,
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so they weren't just shilling for one party or the other.
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But why is CJA, which is all about fighting anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial,
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Can you, you know how to do a search on Twitter from colon CJA?
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No, I was thinking about the one where they condemned Christine Anderson.
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Yeah, so click on, you know, that's the Simon Wiesenthal one,
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So I just showed you that CJA is this Jewish lobby group.
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It used to be on the board of its predecessor about 10, 15 years ago.
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We are deeply concerned by Canadian Conservative Party of Canada MPs,
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known for Islamophobic and anti-immigrant views.
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We raised the issue directly with Conservative Party headquarters.
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It has 10% of the seats in the German federal parliament,
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They have 10% of the seats in the European parliament for Germany.
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but there are over 300 elected officials in Germany
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Like I say, it's illegal to be a Nazi in Germany.
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The one thing you know about Christine Anderson
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She can't be, because if she were, she'd be in jail.
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So CJ was on the warpath that some Conservative MPs
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met with a Conservative MEP, member of the European parliament.
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but I checked CJ's Twitter stream 15 minutes ago,
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So an actual bona fide Nazi, Holocaust denier, crazy man
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who was kicked out of Germany because he was so odious.
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By the way, I wrote an email to all three groups I mentioned,
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the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the B'nai B'rith and the CJ,
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saying, hey, you guys got anything to say about this?
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In fact, I'm leading another tour to Israel this September.
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I've taken 100 people to the Holocaust Museum in Israel, Yad Vashem.
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They call everyone Nazis except the actual Nazis.
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I'm going to move off that Andre Melnick thing, but I am just absolutely staggered by it.
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You know what? Let me just throw one more detail out to you.
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The president of the Simon Weaves and the Hall Center, which is a Holocaust memorial group,
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he used to be a liberal MP under Justin Trudeau named Michael Leavitt.
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He left Trudeau's caucus and he now runs his Holocaust memorial group.
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Is he still loyal to his old boss, Justin Trudeau?
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Or is he loyal to the essential mission of the Simon Weaves and Hall Center,
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And Michael Leavitt doesn't have a word to say about it.
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In fact, he was tweeting about golf over the weekend.
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So this is Simon Weaves and Hall Center disturbing that conservative MPs,
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would meet with a far-right member of Islamophobic.
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And hang on, that's almost exactly word for word what she just said.
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Our elected leaders shouldn't be courting an individual with such odious and hateful views
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Like I say, Christine Anderson is actually a Jew lover.
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And the head of the Holocaust memorial feels the need to attack her.
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He's silent when his buddy, Justin Trudeau, hangs out with...
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You know, I sometimes think about Kanye West because he's one of my favorite artists.
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And I think that was just for the shock effect.
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I think he was sort of frustrated by some things.
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I don't think that Kanye West is a scholar on European history.
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He's a musician and an artist and a creative thinker.
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But here is a guy whose entire life is European history and politics and morality and ethics and diplomacy and strategy.
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So, it's not a musician popping off some comments.
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Andrei Milnik has spent his life thinking and advocating for Ukraine and its history.
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How can the Simon Wiesenthal Center abide that?
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Well, when you realize that they're run by Trudeau's former aide, an MP named Michael Leavitt, then it all makes sense.
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I want to introduce you to a clown because we all need a good laugh.
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I mean, listen, if you look like me, you should never make fun of anyone else's appearance.
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Even if you're handsome and pretty, you shouldn't make fun of someone's appearance.
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And obviously, he's got some qualities if he was elected MPP.
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It looks a little goofy because he's wearing that full pride suit and his hair is a little funny.
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He's responding to this tweet by an NDP activist named Luke LeBrun, who says, this is absolute madness.
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This is happening, I think it was on Friday in Ottawa.
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The far-right mob is not even at a school anymore.
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They're just standing in the middle of a residential street in Westboro, chanting nonsense in the direction of random homeowners to leave our kids alone.
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So this is a clash between Antifa on the left, some NDPers on the center-left, Antifa on the far-left, NDPers on the left, and some various families opposed to trans ideology in the school.
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Some people chanting and basically standing still.
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But then Joel Harden replies and says, so Luke LeBrun says they're hollering.
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And then this guy, Joel Harden, who's a New Democrat member of the provincial parliament, says, and punching people in the face.
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But I'll take a punch for queer and trans youth any day.
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And scroll down a little bit just to, so he's got what looks like a cut under his eye.
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He says he took a punch for queer and trans youth.
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And I'm not going to refer to his appearance anymore because that's just mean.
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And maybe it's the juxtaposition of his funny face and that suit he's wearing.
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He was punched in the face by some pro-family anti-trans activist.
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I want to show that before I, yeah, pump that up a bit.
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And it's going to shock you to know she's got she and her as her pronouns.
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I saw my dear friend and MPP, Member of Provincial Parliament, get punched in the face.
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I saw my dear friend and MPP get punched in the face by haters, plural, by haters today.
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When I say the bigots, plural, are getting emboldened.
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I saw him get punched in the face by haters, not a hater, but haters today.
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And just in case you thought, well, they're partisan activists.
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Corne van Hoppen, who is a journalist with Yahoo News.
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Click on his first one, on the embedded one there on June 10th.
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He said, this is a journalist for Yahoo News, news, I'll take a punch for queer and trans
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Ottawa Center MPP Joel Harden assaulted by anti-trans protester while attending a rally supporting
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queer and trans rights in Ottawa Friday morning.
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Can we click on the, or scroll down a little bit?
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Then two days later, two days later, a little bit of a change.
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As further developments have emerged, we are closely dissecting new information brought
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to light and would like to reassure you that fact-driven journalism remains my top priority.
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I'm currently working with Yahoo Canada News team to provide updates as quickly as possible.
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I'll take a punch for queer and trans youth any day, Ottawa MPP, under scrutiny in wake
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His first report, and I don't know if we have a saved version, Ottawa MPP says he was allegedly
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rabbit punched, I don't know what that is, while attending rally to keep trans and queer
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But it would have been fun to get the original one where it was reported as an absolute fact.
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And there were plenty of adjectives to go along with it.
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But there were so many citizen journalists on the scene that it didn't even take two hours
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But, you know, when you get a punch, it doesn't have a little cut like that.
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You get a punch, you get a swelling, you get a bruise.
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Maybe you get an abrasion or a laceration, but you don't get like a little surgical nick
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But here's a citizen journalist who I would say is on the left, but she's actually a fairly
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And do we have the tweet in which this tweet, this video is embedded?
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Yeah, scroll down a little bit if we can find it, because she was one of the first debunkers.
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MPP, Joel Harden leads crowd chants with megaphone.
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Beside him, a counter protester wields an electronic whistle, 100 to 120 decibels.
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Not sure if the noisemaker is following Harden, my cameraman, or both.
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I don't think this was the one that I'm referring to, but it was interesting.
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And that weird guy with that 100 decibel noisemaker.
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But you see he has a little bandage on his face there.
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Scroll down from Kareem Asad's feet a little bit.
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I should Google that instead of just keeping saying that.
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A rabbit punch is a blow to the back of the head.
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It is considered especially dangerous because it can damage the cervical vertebrae and subsequently
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the spinal cord, which may lead to serious and irreparable spinal cord injury.
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A rabbit punch can also detach the victim's brain from the brain stem, which can kill instantly.
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Our alumnus, Kian Bextie, has a company called Counter Signal.
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But there is literally no footage of him being punched by anyone.
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He cut his face on, yeah, he cut his face on his camera.
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And all sorts of different camera angles were put online very quickly.
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And there was no footage that anyone had that he was punched.
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So Joel Harden realizes he's being caught in a Jussie Smollett moment.
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He realizes that his hoax and Ariel Troster saying,
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I saw it, I saw it, that the hoax was found out.
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So Joel Harden, oh, and by the way, Jagmeet Singh,
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the federal NDP leader and the provincial NDP leader,
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because I don't think I'll ever need to use it.
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They immediately jumped on this and assumed it was true
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In fact, I'm surprised they didn't use the word Nazi.
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There's a real Nazi over in Kiev meeting with Trudeau right now,
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Queer and trans people and kids are being targeted
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Governments must step up and protect the queer and trans community
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But despite Jagmeet Singh and the liar who said,
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and Joel Harden could feel that he was sort of losing the argument here.
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So then he put this up, a kind of alibi number two.
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The first alibi didn't work, so here's the second one.
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I would rather talk to her about why she needed to be violent
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and why she needed to protest outside public schools.
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If she's reading the statement, that offer still holds.
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they attacked him when he was going out for a subway sandwich,
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so now that Joel Harnden is changing his story,
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the code of conduct for Ottawa City Councilors,
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with integrity, accountability, and transparency.