Join David and his co-host, Tamara Ugolini, as they discuss the tragic event that took place in the town of Ottawa, Northumberland, Canada on the weekend of July 5th, 2022.
00:21:17.340we're just asking for you to remain peaceful
00:21:29.480we're peaceful they're the ones coming so have you seen this thing
00:21:33.360okay well why are you talking to them why aren't you talking to them we have been peaceful can you please start talking to those that have been putting their flags in our face
00:21:42.360that's pretty profound it's it's it sounded like flatulence
00:21:50.600really good i do a very good job ma'am are you not able to articulate your point while you're protesting here today
00:21:55.820okay then yes it's a very healthy looking tongue
00:22:04.820so can you give us an example of the lie sir
00:22:12.680well there you have it uh tamara the loving tolerant intelligent left here's the deal
00:22:30.380it reminded me the squeaky toys there's that clip in toy story the that movie and they have all those little
00:22:36.360those little aliens and the claw comes and they're like the claw and uh it really all those squeaks at the same time
00:22:44.300i guess we are the claw but here's the thing what i don't understand correct me if i'm wrong tamara but
00:22:48.860isn't the ostensible policy reason of having a protest or a counter protest
00:22:53.700to get media coverage because you want to spread
00:22:57.620i mean as much as you know maybe you know several dozen people or a few hundred will walk by
00:23:02.820and look at their signs and try to comprehend what they're protesting but
00:23:07.460our youtube audience is more than 1.5 million people so a much wider audience to uh see their message
00:23:15.640and yet they just say slurs uh they stick out their tongues that the squeeze toys i mean
00:23:23.160it's a zoo it's there it's a bunch of animals with their chew toys
00:23:27.600and and what is the deal increasing when you see the antipa types they're bringing the pride flag
00:23:33.660around what what is the deal with uh the lgbtq etc etc community yeah i don't even know how to say
00:23:42.580it anymore there's so many ways of uh referring to it by the way i think that was a very intolerant
00:23:47.380pride flag i i can't remember if it had the the the triangle the blm and the trend yeah the all the
00:23:54.520yeah kind of like new coke back in 1985 right that was a flop and look at the other signs
00:23:59.980holocaust denier what you know when has mr top ever denied the holocaust i i mean you know what's
00:24:10.260sad is that many of these people i presume went through post-secondary school um i would imagine
00:24:17.700many of them in gender studies or something like that in which the only job available for you is to
00:24:22.800become a oh i don't know a professor of gender studies philosophy exactly um what do you make
00:24:30.040tamara of the fact that they can't articulate their point and in fact i think if those cops weren't there
00:24:38.240um you had some in that crowd which i'm sure would have gotten uh violent with uh william and i
00:24:45.020what is it what why can't they make their points yeah that's that's a great question and i wonder how
00:24:53.480they would be received or vice versa if it was the mainstream media coming to cover their event you
00:25:00.000know the mainstream media doesn't cover and come out journalistically in the field as far as i've seen
00:25:05.620especially over the last two years to cover events like this uh but i always wonder what kind
00:25:11.020of would they be met with the same haste by the group if it was the mainstream media and then what
00:25:17.200kind of questions would be asked you know would they push on what they're standing for and point
00:25:22.560out holes in their logic or in their understanding and misunderstanding of what exactly is going on as
00:25:28.900you said the sign with the holocaust denial i mean where does that even come from here where where
00:25:35.240are you basing your signs off of if you're so tolerant and inclusive well then why are you
00:25:40.340displaying your behavior in such a fashion to people who maybe you disagree with politically
00:25:45.040but really probably have other things in common with if you were able to have that open honest
00:25:51.000dialogue and discussion so yeah i'm not i'm not sure it's it's kind of um like a like a bomb that's
00:25:58.920just going to go off at any time when you approach some of these these people and quote unquote
00:26:03.700these people it's like a ticking time bomb but uh yeah and it's infantile and they've been
00:26:10.960mollycoddled in a uh environment in school in which um a contrary opinion is akin to violence you know
00:26:20.640there's that phrase antifa has punch a nazi well my definition of a nazi is somebody uh hell-bent
00:26:27.020on world conquest and engineering a genocide um but their definition of a nazi is somebody
00:26:33.660that has a contrary opinion and you don't debate you use physical violence this is what they're
00:26:39.400being brought up with in post-secondary institutions it is atrocious but uh special treat for you now
00:26:46.540folks are um khaleesi of the khaleesi that would be sheila gun reed almost we're not quite there yet
00:26:52.920oh we're not quite there so we're going to go to a quick little ad break and then we are going to
00:26:57.140touch base with our colleague sheila gun reed who is covering the tamara leach bail hearing today and
00:27:02.300so we're hoping to get some updates from her but first and foremost here is a quick ad break
00:32:36.740What, if anything, does that have to do with Canada Day?
00:32:39.340She didn't organize any of those protests.
00:32:41.400She's not accused of organizing any of those protests.
00:32:43.920And if Canada Day had a cloud over it, maybe it has something to do with the fact that there was a woman in jail who's a political prisoner.
00:32:53.300And that's why people were out there protesting.
00:32:55.820The cop was complaining, oh, Canada Day, there were fewer families there, and it was, you know, it was less exciting or whatever.
00:33:03.740And you're thinking, well, yeah, that's because the cops threatened people for like a week in advance.
00:33:24.140I was there on Dominion Day weekend, and it was the politicians and the police officers that were putting a cloud over the weekend.
00:33:34.780I mean, even to the point, Sheila, we saw an ice cream truck vendor being told to move along because one of the key crimes is being stationary, evidently.
00:33:46.700And God forbid we have a weekend where it's 30 degrees centigrade and somebody is vending icy cold treats to appreciative customers.
00:33:59.860Because, you know, that one ice cream truck, maybe the good humor man is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to a whole bunch of 18 wheelers rolling in.
00:34:30.900It was just some technical delays when you're dealing with remote court, which it seems as though every time I'm remote reporting on remote court, there's some sort of technical delay or an audio delay.
00:34:43.420So they had some difficulty connecting Tamara's audio from the jail from remand to the courthouse where all the lawyers and the judge was.
00:34:54.800It's it's not wrapped up sounds like the defense is sort of rested or sorry, the the crown has rested.
00:35:04.520I think they're trying to kill the judge with paperwork, like 4000 pages in one submission, 1400 in another submission, trying to make us watch 36 minutes of Tamara's speech, which is fine.
00:35:18.440It's a very compelling speech, but I'm not sure it's worth the court's time when they are literally alleging that three seconds of this is the problem.
00:35:26.340So they've rested for the day after lunch, wherein I have to cram a whole workday into the lunch break here.
00:35:36.660They the defense is up and they're calling Tamara's surety.
00:35:41.260So the person who put up her bail and is responsible for making sure that she obeys all of her conditions, including this person goes through Tamara's electronic devices, her cell phone, her computer to make sure that she's not communicating with it.
00:35:56.960Again, they're treating her like a murderer or a sex offender, but it's to make sure that she's not communicating with any of her fellow convoy organizers and that person, their identity is protected through a publication ban.
00:36:11.600And I'm really I'm not mad about that, because could you imagine how that person would be harassed by the left for helping Tamara out?
00:36:19.400So and also I should note that the crown is also saying that it's called a treatment.
00:36:28.380A treatment means that they want the bail that the surety put up.
00:36:33.640They want that forfeited and right away.
00:36:36.880Sounds like they want it done right away.
00:36:38.600So they're really not only are they punishing Tamara, but they're also seeking to punish anybody who ever tried to help her in any sort of way.
00:36:47.220So we'll hear from the surety this afternoon.
00:36:50.240I'm going to have to be very careful with my reporting because of the publication ban there.
00:36:54.580And then there might might maybe depends on how long everything goes today.
00:36:58.900If there could be a judgment today on whether or not she will receive bail.
00:37:03.420But she's already been held in jail this time for nine days.
00:37:52.480And I would say if the cops did that to the most vile person that they were arresting, a serial killer, a mass murderer, there would be all kinds of charges of cruel and unusual punishment to the suspect.
00:38:13.340This was making an example out of her.
00:38:15.960How in the world could you not provide her with a blanket and a change of clothes?
00:38:20.280I'm surprised she didn't get ill from that.
00:38:23.120I mean, what do you make of that kind of treatment, Tamara?
00:38:25.960Yeah, well, as Sheila said, you know, not surprised that this is the treatment that you're met with simply for gathering peacefully in Canada to oppose the government's mandates and what they've done to the population as a whole throughout the pandemic.
00:38:41.720I call it pandemic pandemonium because of the government response, not because of anything to do with the virus.
00:38:51.100And I mean, the fact that she's been held for nine days waiting for this bail hearing over the course of the long weekend Canada Day, which is arguably very coincidental timing for someone like Tamara Leach to be arrested on these charges,
00:39:04.460which sound like they're really grasping at straws to even try to get anything here from it.
00:39:11.360I'm really interested to see how it will unfold, how the judge rules.
00:39:15.720And actually, what was the bail amount?
00:39:18.900Do we know what she was originally out on bail, what that amount was?
00:39:21.880I don't know what the bail amount is, but I'm sure it was substantial, given the conditions that they placed on her and the fact that they protected the identity of the surety.
00:39:34.660But I mean, just the the Gomer Pyle level of police work here is really quite outstanding.
00:39:40.840Um, for example, I heard from one of the Justice Center people this morning, all morning long, they've been saying that, you know, she was at a table with Rex Murphy and Maxine Bernier and Maxine Bernier's wife.
00:39:56.920Um, we also heard from Benson that he had no idea even who all the people were in the photo, the alleged photo that she took with Tom Marazzo.
00:40:08.900They know that they didn't even bother to identify two other people in this photo.
00:40:15.560Well, how do you know they're not Tamara's lawyers?
00:40:34.420No, but no, but the point that they were making was, um, you know, that they didn't even, they're saying that she is breaching conditions because she's talking to fellow, fellow convoy organizers.
00:40:45.960Although she's allowed to talk to them if her lawyers are present.
00:40:49.560But they didn't even bother to identify who is a lawyer, who is this person, who is that person.
00:40:55.220And even the people they thought they identified, they were getting wrong.
00:40:58.700For example, the lady that they keep saying is Maxine Bernier's wife, which it wasn't his wife.
00:41:03.780And in that photo, they don't know if those other two people in that photo are lawyers.
00:41:07.580They don't know who the Justice Center is.
00:41:10.340They don't know who any of the lawyers are.
00:41:12.200All they know is that she took a photo with Tom Marazzo and they breached her on those conditions and they issued a Canada-wide warrant.
00:41:18.240And that detective testified today when asked by, um, Tamara's lawyer, who was incredible, by the way, um, said, have you ever issued a Canada-wide warrant for, uh, like a breach of communications conditions?
00:42:13.420So any fear that the convoy is going to return on Dominion Day, that they're going to set up camps and tents and bouncy castles and a hot tub.
00:43:00.060To stop people from protesting the government.
00:43:03.440Canada Day is a day where we celebrate our rights and freedoms.
00:43:06.220And if you feel they're being taken away, where do you protest them?
00:43:10.040Except for at the place that houses our government.
00:43:13.280And if the mayor of Ottawa doesn't like it, then go be a mayor of a different city.
00:43:17.200If the Ottawa police, who are terrible, they're really giving Calgary police a run for their money in being the worst in the country.
00:43:23.260But if they don't like it, then go be a cop in another place.
00:43:27.080But this is a place where free expression should reign.
00:43:31.420By the way, please, Sheila, whatever you do, don't forget the Montreal Police Service when it comes to the worst law enforcement agencies in Canada.
00:43:39.200I don't know, these guys are arresting little tiny women in Calgary.
00:44:14.680It's a catch-all thing that when the cops don't know what to do with you, they charge you with mischief because you're just being annoying and they don't know what to do.
00:44:22.180But it's basically being criminally annoying and encouraging other people to be criminally annoying.
00:44:27.860They picked her up on a nationwide warrant for that.
00:44:30.720And they're treating, they're going through her cell phone like she is someone who deals in child pornography.
00:44:37.320That's how this poor little woman is being treated.
00:44:39.460And I keep saying she's little because it's shocking how small she is.
00:44:42.940Tamera, she's smaller than you and you can fit in a teacup.
00:44:45.900Like, she makes me look like an Amazon and I'm not a big woman.
00:45:36.200Sometimes when Lawrence Greenspan, one of the best lawyers in the country, objects to certain things, the judge is letting it come in, like asking for the or allowing the cops opinions about the impact of the freedom convoy on the Canada Day protests.
00:45:51.960Like, what has that got to do with anything?
00:45:53.480She was in jail during that time, you know.
00:47:28.560I mean, she's approaching four weeks in jail now.
00:47:31.080I think it was nearly three weeks before.
00:47:32.920And she's rolled over nine days right now for being annoying in public, for protesting the government when the government didn't want to hear from her.
00:47:40.740Really, that's what this is all about.
00:47:42.660And we've seen the unequal treatment of protesters, even in Ottawa, even over this past weekend.
00:47:49.240We had vegans getting a police escort up to Parliament Hill, holding their placards.
00:48:01.460We're not allowed anywhere near the Hill.
00:48:03.280No, we mentioned this earlier on the show.
00:48:06.260We also saw street preachers, people handing out religious pamphlets.
00:48:11.140The rule is you can walk around on the Hill.
00:48:14.380You can't be stationary because that might be the genesis.
00:48:17.460That might be the big bang of a convoy.
00:48:19.320So what the police were saying and the bylaw were saying, you can walk and talk, which is the language they use for prisoners at a penitentiary when it's exercise time.
00:48:30.300You know, you go in a circle, walk and talk.
00:49:45.140And then I think a supervisor out to Medicine Hat to grab Tamara Leach to fly her back to Ottawa.
00:49:53.460And this, I mean, I guess my takeaway is don't get murdered in Ottawa because Deputy Dog is not going to solve the case here.
00:50:00.800And, you know, Sheila, the perverse irony, as you well know, and you too, Tamara, is that contrary to the mainstream media narrative, crime went down in Ottawa when the Freedom Convoy was there.
00:50:22.580Where is this push of law enforcement when it comes to our beloved colleague, Alexa Lavoie, that got shot with some kind of cylinder right in her thigh and tear gassed?
00:50:33.440And thank God it was her thigh because if it was her head, I might be speaking about Alexa in the past tense.
00:50:38.600When I queried at the press conference, Chief, Acting Chief Bell, he hadn't even heard of this, even though this was international news.
00:50:49.320Where are the homicide investigators when it comes to looking at why a police officer discharged a firearm against a journalist?
00:50:58.800Well, and, you know, if we really want to just look at the unequal treatment here, let us not forget the Antifa maniac who allegedly drove his crappy Jeep into a crowd of convoy protesters in Winnipeg.
00:51:56.060Tamara, for the crime of mischief, has been in jail now three weeks and then nine more days for a three second breach, taking a picture with a fellow convoy supporter.
00:52:09.020Well, Sheila, I am sure in terms of the Justin Trudeau liberals mindset on the Jeep driver, he was doing what amounted to prudent public service, trying to get rid of some of the undesirables out there with the freedom movement.
00:52:24.920And if you think I'm exaggerating, we mentioned earlier in the show, our homegrown al-Qaeda terrorist, he's not behind bars.
00:52:32.280He gets to fly around the country, even though allegedly he's on a no-fly list.
00:52:37.160He got an eight-figure check, $10.5 million, for killing one of our allies and partially blinding another.
00:52:43.420So, real crime, real terrorism, that's okay with Justin Trudeau.
00:52:50.700Thought crimes, Orwellian crimes, that is something where you get the book thrown at you.
00:52:58.700Well, and, you know, I would think that, you know, I heard all morning about how Tamara Leach inspired all these Canada Day, I don't know, inconveniences.
00:53:09.660Like, they're talking about Canada Day like it was a 9-11 level event when it was, I think, just mostly inconvenient to some people.
00:53:18.440But, you know, they're talking about how Tamara inspired all these other people.
00:53:22.180Well, I think you can draw a straight line from the liberal and the police rhetoric about the convoy to the violence that happened in Winnipeg.
00:53:31.460That lunatic, allegedly, was weaponized to hurt those people because he goes through his life saying, punch Nazis.
00:53:39.960You know, if I ever see a Nazi, I'm going to punch them.
00:53:41.960And then the TV and the liberals are saying, yeah, these people are white supremacists.
00:53:46.380Justin Trudeau called them white supremacists.
00:53:48.800So when the white supremacists, according to the media, descended on his town, he's lived his whole life for a chance to fight them, punch them.
00:53:59.760And, you know, there's no accountability for the rhetoric that led to that.
00:54:04.920Well, Sheila, I want to thank you again for covering this important bail condition hearing.
00:54:12.840And, you know, that I'm wondering if other mainstream media outlets out there are covering it.
00:54:20.100And if they do cover it, you know, there's going to be a slant to it in which she's being depicted as some kind of a terrorism organizer or whatnot.
00:54:57.260Before I go, if you want to show your support for Tamara, if you go on the rebelnewsstore.com, we've got some free Tamara T-shirts in there.
00:55:04.200I'm sure to probably get you hassled by the police, but, you know, you're a conservative.
00:55:15.500Yeah, well, that took up a lot of the time here, but we didn't even touch on the free Tamara petition, actually, that you attempted to drop off there in Ottawa.
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00:57:48.080I don't think Marvel or D.C. would ever be interested in a Christian based superhero.
00:57:55.460In fact, I believe, you know, the superhero I most commonly compare Sheila Gunn-Reed to is the Huntress because she's got a crossbow like Sheila does.
00:58:05.860And she wears a cross or I think she used to wear a cross.
00:58:09.380I believe they've reimagined the Huntress.
00:58:12.340They've reimagined all so many of them.
00:59:46.340It's the odd oxymoronic names that it's always very easy to find, to see, to point out they're oxymoronic and they're hypocritical.
00:59:59.280And so that's where they can't engage in dialogue and discussion because they literally just can't attest to what it is they're doing and what they're aligned with.
01:00:08.060They regurgitate, and I think you already mentioned that earlier in the stream, you know, that's years of the school system just teaching people how to regurgitate and repeat what you're being taught and not to think critically and come up with your own thoughts and your own opinions because you might face reprimand for that even in the school system.
01:00:28.740And, I mean, as we've seen throughout the whole narrative, all those institutions have been a total failure in that regard and allowing any sort of discussion or dissent.
01:00:36.320And I'm sad that we didn't get to any of our other topics on the live stream, but we are, unfortunately.