Rebel News Podcast - DAILY ｜ Tent city eviction; Freeland on Trump raid; 'Experts' slam ArriveCAN; Poilievre or Charest？

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Rebel Daily live stream where we break down stories

00:00:18.880 not only in Canada but all over the world. We are your hosts Matt Brevner and Dakota

00:00:23.920 Christmas. Indeed, thank you so much for joining me today Matt. I myself am in the Rebel News HQ

00:00:30.080 studio here in Toronto. We've got Matt Brevner out in Vancouver. So good to be on with you today Matt.

00:00:36.080 I actually don't think we've ever hosted live stream together have we? I don't think we have.

00:00:39.760 I think maybe there was one a while back with someone else maybe it was with Andrew but I don't

00:00:45.040 think the two of us have ever gone at it. Yeah so this is gonna be really great. I'm

00:00:48.960 really looking forward to this and yeah again for those of you who don't know the deal this is the

00:00:53.920 daily live stream we break down the news of the day for you we go through a bunch of headlines

00:00:58.400 we'll give you our own takes and if you would like to interact with us of course whether you are on

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00:01:16.460 read them out we'd love to interact with all of you so please do and yeah I think without further

00:01:22.820 ado might as well get in on on some of the headlines of today and the breaking news that's going on

00:01:27.860 so I think first up on the docket here Matt is something that you've reported on yourself in

00:01:33.060 Vancouver pretty extensively I've loved seeing your coverage of this I think it's a really important

00:01:38.500 issue and there's a lot of nuance to it I don't think a lot of people have been paying attention to

00:01:43.700 or really think hard enough about so we've been seeing that in Vancouver the downtown east side

00:01:49.540 they've started clearing away these tent cities that have been really plaguing the area and it's

00:01:55.220 such a significant issue that you've covered so extensively so I would love to hear your takes

00:02:00.100 on this and have you sort of explain what the deal is what's going on here in Vancouver sure yeah I'd

00:02:05.860 love to share you know for those of you who aren't familiar with Vancouver's downtown east side

00:02:10.820 um for longer than five decades it's essentially been a hot spot for uh drug abuse uh prostitution

00:02:20.420 violent crime gang crime gang violence and mental health issues and essentially uh furthermore in

00:02:27.300 the last two or three years there have been tent encampments that have been popping up um throughout

00:02:31.700 the city uh first in Oppenheimer park and then just off of Venables and then back at Oppenheimer park and

00:02:37.700 now most recently uh tents have been popping up right in front of establishments on Hastings street

00:02:42.660 now that's always been kind of a rough area but uh since the beginning of the pandemic it's just become

00:02:49.220 even worse and you know I I don't claim to have the answer uh as to what to do to fix this however um

00:02:57.700 this is a community of people that really need help and walking down there you know it's it's it's easy to just

00:03:03.460 drive by and say oh my the visuals are just so shocking but ultimately these are people you know

00:03:09.860 these are someone's it's cliche but it's someone's mother someone's uh daughter someone's son someone's

00:03:14.580 brother and these people just really need help and instead of being used for you know political fodder

00:03:20.020 or uh leverage for back and forth I it's the issue is becoming so big that there's nothing you know we

00:03:25.780 can't avoid it anymore so anyways uh there was a fire at the beginning of July a church burnt down

00:03:31.300 um the fire uh media spokesperson matthew trudeau no relation to the prime minister he was uh they're

00:03:40.340 claiming that one of these tents had a protein a propane tank in it and that caused fire

00:03:51.620 because of that party precinct that all the tents had to be removed uh because of fire hazard fire

00:03:59.460 safety which makes sense however you know I can't corroborate this but speaking to some people who

00:04:04.500 were actually there on the scene said that they didn't uh some people seem to think that it was an

00:04:09.380 arson uh that's not substantial that's not a substantiated claim but walking down side that's

00:04:15.860 that are actually um so oh i'm getting some yeah yeah so having some issues with the audio there just a little bit

00:04:26.500 um sorry folks please do bear with us

00:04:34.420 yeah sorry guys we are having some technical difficulties we definitely do want to get back

00:04:38.740 in onto the topic because we think it's such an important issue and there's so much more to come

00:04:42.020 we're going to throw to an ad real quick off the bat here please do stay with us while we get this

00:04:46.420 sorted out we will be right back

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00:07:12.980 difference all right i think we have everything sorted thanks so much everyone for staying with us

00:07:19.140 matt can you hear me and can i hear you i can yeah am i coming in all right i think i hear you all good

00:07:25.060 and clean that's great i mean this stuff happens glad i got that sorted go to live stream everything's

00:07:30.500 live live in studio matt in your home studio as it happens so thanks everyone for being the best

00:07:36.980 viewers and for being so patient with us as we get all this sorted uh so i guess we were talking about

00:07:42.020 vancouver's downtown east side and sort of clearing of these massive tendon encampments there that has

00:07:48.180 been going on and sort of breaking down the issue because you matt have been covering this yourself

00:07:52.180 pretty extensively so you were talking about uh the church fire that had happened the propane tank

00:07:58.660 that was in the tent and some people speculating whether there was arson involved so why don't

00:08:03.540 you take us forward from uh from there what you were talking about right so essentially since that

00:08:08.340 church burnt down the uh vancouver chief uh fire chief karen fry issued a decree saying that all these

00:08:13.700 tent encampments that have popped up on on east hastings spanning about three blocks uh needed to be

00:08:19.140 removed because of uh fire hazard which you know obviously is reasonable however um these people have

00:08:25.540 absolutely nowhere to go and these are the people that have nothing or less than nothing so um while

00:08:31.780 we were down there uh last week we heard some some of the people we spoke to said they're not going to

00:08:36.420 go without a fight so i guess that leads us to what's happening right now uh with a violent altercation

00:08:41.700 between bpd and some residents which unfortunately i'm not surprised has happened i'm not sure if we're

00:08:47.140 able to throw to that at all uh the cool water article imagine we could pull up that article there that uh

00:08:52.100 because the article itself i believe is just detailing the fact that this was happening that

00:08:56.100 the they're beginning to remove these encampments and that there was essentially a street brawl between

00:09:01.620 the cops and between residents uh who were there because i mean it is such an intense and heated and

00:09:07.380 complex issue so i figure like if you just read this article there's not a lot of nuance behind

00:09:13.140 what a lot of the issues are that are plaguing the community and the people who are there on the street

00:09:17.940 and so i think uh i think it's it's great to have you talking about this matt because i feel

00:09:23.300 like you understand a lot better than the average person would um some of these issues that are at

00:09:28.580 play here unless you've you know it's just a vancouver thing if you if you grew up in vancouver

00:09:35.220 or in british columbia you just kind of know what it's about a drug culture is so rampant

00:09:39.620 in british columbia um it's it's worse here than anywhere else in the world i didn't really understand

00:09:45.700 until i started traveling um you know when i when i became an adult uh how ingrained drug culture not

00:09:52.420 only abuse but recreational drug use is in in british columbian culture i don't think that's a good

00:09:57.940 thing uh it just is a way a way of life here and hastings is kind of like the unfortunately it's like

00:10:04.580 kind of the drunk uncle that no one pays attention to at thanksgiving and we just kind of let it let it

00:10:08.900 exist and uh yeah i don't know these the people when when the when the oppenheimer park encampment was

00:10:15.380 was torn down the people there were promised permanent housing uh through sros or what have you and

00:10:20.580 that just never came so um i think taking it to hasting street what i'm kind of gathering from the

00:10:27.220 people on location is that it's a it's a bit of a form of protest like they want to be seen by the

00:10:32.580 public so that the public will get you know uh will empathize with the situation hopefully something

00:10:37.060 will come of it um but yeah it's it's an expensive issue it's not one that's easily fixed because

00:10:41.540 also a lot of the people that are living down there they don't want to go to sros and they

00:10:44.820 don't want permanent housing because the permanent housing situations are violent um there is some

00:10:50.420 people claim it's even harder for them to stay clean in these social housing situations because of

00:10:54.900 the the drug trade and it's so rampant there so it's it's not as easy as even saying hey let's build

00:11:00.500 a thousand you know studio apartments and put them in there whatever else it's it's it's it's a mental

00:11:04.980 health crisis and i don't see it getting any better anytime soon and honestly anyone who claims to

00:11:10.820 have the solution or the answer they're they're not being fully truthful yeah yeah all around is

00:11:16.260 just such a heartbreaking situation because no matter what way like no matter what actions are being taken

00:11:20.660 right now uh there's some sort of tragedy going on whether it's those who are on the street who are

00:11:25.700 suffering or those who are being impacted by that it's just sort of this vicious cycle that i think

00:11:29.940 we're seeing and it's yeah it's sad i mean i i'm of course no expert on the topic but it is it is

00:11:35.620 just heartbreaking to see and it would be you know of course i'm very hopeful that you know it's it's

00:11:40.660 an issue that we could make some headway on but yeah it's just such a tough sort of not to crack there

00:11:45.380 in terms of like what can really be done and what is the most effective way to go about dealing with it

00:11:50.260 so yeah i would be interested to hearing what people in the uh in the comments think uh because

00:11:55.300 obviously british columbia now is launching a pilot program uh with the federal government

00:11:59.940 criminalized illicit drugs under two and a half grams so heroin amphetamines you name it it's going

00:12:05.860 to be legal to use under two and a half grams and carry on you as of january 1st um obviously hearing

00:12:12.580 that it's inflammatory and speaking to some addicts that are on the street you know i've got first-hand

00:12:18.340 accounts people saying that this is going to make it actually very difficult for people to stay clean

00:12:23.060 and this is going to be you know this is going to encourage children to try drugs because then

00:12:27.460 it's like well what's wrong with heroin it's legal i can try it on the other hand people who are

00:12:33.300 advocates and proponents of this policy are claiming that one of the hardest parts for the rehabilitation

00:12:38.740 process and something that kind of clogs up our prison systems is drug offenses especially people

00:12:43.460 that are using so even if someone gets clean once they have a criminal record they can't get a job

00:12:48.260 they can't get an apartment even in vancouver you know you need a clean record and a credit check

00:12:52.660 now to get an apartment once it shows basically on your file that you've ever collected welfare

00:12:57.060 ever had a criminal record or ever lived in sro you're basically doomed to this glass ceiling of

00:13:02.260 you know at best part-time work and social assistance so there has to be a way to also to rehabilitate

00:13:08.820 these people and re-assimilate them for the ones that really want to because obviously it's not hard

00:13:13.300 it's not easy to get clean off off of something like heroin and actually you know reclaim your life however

00:13:18.580 for those who are willing and able i think there needs to be a way to re-assimilate these people

00:13:23.460 so not only that they can be dignified and have a life but also they're not a burden on the taxpayer

00:13:27.460 either so there needs to be like a fine balance i don't know if decriminalizing for the whole province

00:13:33.060 is necessarily that fine balance because obviously people who are in northern northern bc have nothing to

00:13:38.740 do with people on the downtown east side yet the drugs are just as accessible so maybe some sort of safe

00:13:43.780 zone you know between like clark and can be or something i don't know i don't i don't claim to

00:13:48.900 have the answer but it needs to be more nuanced than that and i i'm concerned about what this new

00:13:54.580 policy is going to bring to be honest yeah i absolutely hear you there and like you were saying

00:13:59.700 i'd love to hear uh what viewers have to say so if you got any comments for us please do send them

00:14:04.420 we'll read them out we'll discuss a little further um moving on from that uh one of the other you know

00:14:11.620 probably the biggest headline in the world right now is the fact that donald trump's personal

00:14:16.100 residence in mar-a-lago in florida was raided by the fbi that's been dominating the headlines over

00:14:21.860 the past couple of days and what's the latest development on that with the canadian angle is

00:14:26.580 that uh deputy prime minister finance minister trudeau's number two woman christia freeland uh has

00:14:33.700 weighed in on it or not weighed in depending uh we have a clip here to throw in when she was asked about

00:14:38.900 it about her thoughts and here's what she had to say and we'll get into this a little bit

00:14:43.700 thank you and looking south are you a surprise to learn former president donald trump's residence

00:14:48.900 was raided do you think he'll be charged and based on what's come to light from the january 6th hearings

00:14:54.420 do you think trump should be allowed to be president again you know being here today i have been

00:15:02.500 talking a lot about our experience during the nafta negotiations and reflecting a lot on that

00:15:09.540 experience um and you know reflecting with some appropriately quiet but confident canadian pride

00:15:18.820 we got through a hard time and we got through it with a win for canada a win which is being

00:15:26.580 reinforced by the inflation reduction act one of my principles during the nafta negotiations was that

00:15:35.380 it was my job to comment on and talk about canadian issues and affairs and i would leave it to the

00:15:43.300 americans to talk about their own politics and i think i'm going to continue to follow that rule today

00:15:50.820 now matt you pointed out something to me when we were talking about before the live stream

00:15:54.980 uh about just how hypocritical her refusal to comment is uh why don't you walk us through that

00:16:01.060 well i just think it's it's uh rich because uh neither freeland nor the prime minister had any

00:16:06.340 problem commenting on uh roe v wade being overturned and essentially offering abortion tourism for any

00:16:12.740 american uh that wanted to come here which you know is so is great distrust in our our basically our best

00:16:21.700 ally uh undermines their uh democratic process not only that it grossly misrepresents what the

00:16:29.460 overturning of roe v wade even means so the fact that they don't want to comment on american politics

00:16:34.500 i think that's just ridiculous because basically all of our policies that are coming out of this

00:16:38.740 conservative or this uh liberal uh government are based on american politics and just piggybacking

00:16:44.180 american issues and then somehow making them our own like not to mention you know and not to segue but

00:16:49.620 we're you know dre and i are producing a uh documentary on the camloops residential school

00:16:54.180 and you know it's i'd be amiss to not assert that the our canadian institutions tried to make that

00:17:00.980 into like our very own george floyd moment and you know a little bit of digging you can see verbatim

00:17:06.260 that's actually what they were trying to do um but yeah i mean i just think it's funny because since

00:17:10.340 when did do they have an issue uh commenting or taking the moral high ground on american politics i just

00:17:15.620 think it's it's ridiculous yeah exactly it's like not just like so the recent overturning of uh of

00:17:20.820 roe v wade they were more than happy to jump in on that like you were saying um like other things like

00:17:26.100 gun violence they would use uh gun violence in the states they'd point to that and say look this is this

00:17:31.220 is you know another reason why we feel so justified to clamp down and for example the recent handgun ban

00:17:37.620 from the liberals coming down and other stuff like that so they have no problem jumping in on american

00:17:42.900 politics when it's politically expedient for them to do so whereas when something like this happens oh

00:17:49.140 no no comment i'm sorry like you know i've got a rule that i stick to and i don't comment on american

00:17:53.780 policies and i'm going to stick to that today which makes me think that okay so this is not

00:18:00.420 politically expedient for them or she like christian feeling does not see a way to spin this in her favor

00:18:05.780 politically so she's not going to comment on it so it makes me think like okay interesting so what is she

00:18:10.500 concerned about in this issue that she doesn't want to comment on or like you know she doesn't

00:18:14.580 want to get into hot water on this kind of makes me sort of thing like interesting why does she seem

00:18:19.140 concerned about commenting on this like normally you would think she'd love the opportunity to take

00:18:23.380 a stab at you know trump and maybe compare him to some of her uh political opposition here or something

00:18:28.980 like that but no no comment which i i don't know i find interesting yeah one can only speculate why

00:18:34.820 she's doing that um it's definitely not politically favorable for her to do so um with a you know a

00:18:41.060 growing populist movement in canada and also trump hinting at a at a comeback and whether it's not with

00:18:47.780 him running whether he's second fiddle or just endorsing endorsing desantis uh if the liberals hope to

00:18:54.100 maintain power they're gonna have to get along with whatever conservative government's coming next

00:18:58.420 and yeah i don't know i the tables are turning my friend it seems it seems to be this is this is

00:19:06.340 very true and actually on that topic i think that leads nicely into uh another headline that came out

00:19:12.660 today because so just to give this the context for it i believe it was yesterday or the day before

00:19:18.020 yesterday with within within the past few days jagmeet singh came out leader of the ndp saying that his

00:19:24.260 current agreement with trust and trudeau's liberal party uh because right now they have a essentially

00:19:30.020 a coalition government going on uh agreeing that the ndp will throw their support behind the liberals

00:19:35.140 in parliament to essentially give them a majority as long as they sort of play ball and throw the uh

00:19:40.260 the ndp some bones uh is sort of in their own socialist agenda of policies they want to implement

00:19:46.340 and jagmeet singh came out with essentially an ultimatum saying give us the uh child dental care

00:19:52.900 program that we want by the end of the year or else you don't have our support and we might be

00:19:57.220 facing another election justin trudeau might be at risk to uh to losing his position of power to a

00:20:03.540 general election he no longer has that uh agreement with the ndp and so coming out today was the

00:20:09.780 liberals saying that they will indeed fulfill their promise of dental care for kids according to

00:20:13.620 christia freeland which you know is interesting uh i feel like the liberals are very dependent on the ndp

00:20:21.220 the ndp have never had more power than they have had now because of uh how much the liberals rely on

00:20:27.540 them so i don't know do you have any takes on this matt any any thoughts you'd like to throw in there

00:20:32.500 well i think it's interesting that uh singh is also demanding the government fulfill a second part of

00:20:37.860 the deal a 500 top up to those who receive the canada housing benefit so you know how much is this all

00:20:43.860 going to cost i think it's okay so i grew up in a in a household uh that we were below middle class

00:20:52.580 so we relied on university programs sometimes university dental schools at least the one in

00:20:57.940 ubc they'll offer uh dental to children for at a discount and i'm really grateful that we had that

00:21:03.620 because my parents couldn't afford to get braces or anything like that or and i had a bunch of cavities

00:21:07.300 so for that i understand how uh you know dental impact will help however for it's just it seems

00:21:16.020 like a little bit disingenuous to me the timing of it all the demand that this all gets turned out

00:21:20.900 within six months is just not complete there hasn't been a ton of movement

00:21:26.980 something that's going to take a lot of time so yeah sorry we're having some more of those same audio

00:21:32.980 issues i think um yeah yeah i'm getting a lot of feedback on my side too yeah that's unfortunate

00:21:42.180 yeah sorry folks we're still having i guess a repeat of those same technical issues we're having

00:21:46.740 earlier which is unfortunate but uh you know what i think we we are just in time now to be thrown to

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00:24:10.820 to increase prosperity and improve public health

00:24:14.260 but also to build back better

00:24:21.380 if the demands from the farmers are not met what do you think happens next

00:24:26.980 i think the farmers will explode i'm afraid it will be a civil war civil war is going to start

00:24:34.980 up to a civil war i don't know

00:24:36.740 i think there's gonna be farmers today or tomorrow they go to their homes and they say if you don't

00:24:49.300 come there we come to you well i know the farmers a bit and if they draw a line in the sand they draw a

00:24:56.020 line in the south

00:25:02.900 but i think uh they're going to be a small civil war i can imagine it's going to be a lot of mayhem

00:25:10.020 a half a bit

00:25:11.140 and in that

00:25:16.660 apparently

00:25:20.660 All right. I think we are back now. Matt, can you hear me all right?

00:25:25.720 I can hear you. I can't vouch for these Apple headphones.

00:25:30.400 Yeah, unfortunately. That's a shame. Well, I mean, I think we're back to it now. I think we've got

00:25:35.660 this sorted out. So I think we're good. I think we're good. You know what? This stuff happens,

00:25:40.720 guys. It's all part of the job. So I think, so where were we? We were talking about the NDP

00:25:48.900 liberal coalition agreement. We were talking about their dental care plan. And so you were

00:25:54.580 weighing in a bit on that. And that's when your audio cut out. Was there anything else you wanted

00:25:57.760 to say that you were sort of interrupted by our technical issues on? Yeah, I just don't think

00:26:01.980 it's reasonable. It's realistic. I do think that I don't see why dental isn't included in healthcare.

00:26:10.300 At least some sort of access to dental is included in healthcare, especially considering how much we

00:26:14.840 pay, the African-Canadian pays for healthcare. And I do think it's vital to overall health,

00:26:22.700 especially since it's so closely linked to heart disease and whatever else. And, you know,

00:26:26.900 just like a child's self-esteem when they're a kid and their teeth are rotting out of their face and

00:26:31.080 their parents can't help it. Like, it's a big deal. It's important. However, to insist that this all

00:26:35.580 gets taken care of by the provinces in tandem with the federal government before September is a

00:26:41.840 little bit ridiculous. And I mean, Singh must know that. So again, it's just, you know,

00:26:47.040 using Canadians as political leverage, as he loves to do. So I don't like that.

00:26:51.840 Yeah, exactly. I mean, you make such a great point there where it's like, if they really did care,

00:26:58.640 they'd be going about this so much differently versus it's just such a clear cut, you know,

00:27:03.520 taking political advantage of this, using everyday Canadians as political leverage, political fodder

00:27:08.300 to advance his own agenda. I mean, it's just a classic sort of scummy political move that we see

00:27:14.280 all the time. Yeah, it's kind of, it's sad to see, but it's the reality of it. And, you know,

00:27:21.980 I think that also kind of ties into the next headline that is on the list here, talking about

00:27:28.220 Pierre Polyev and the polls coming out about the conservative leadership race, because that's kind

00:27:33.680 of ramping up significantly. That's going to come September 10th is when they'll be announcing the

00:27:38.740 new leader, the replacement of Aaron O'Toole to lead the federal conservatives. And so this latest

00:27:44.520 poll is saying, Pierre Polyev preferred leader for conservatives, but not Canadians poll, which is

00:27:50.200 this one sort of lege poll that every single corporate media outlet is running with, running with

00:27:56.120 the story. It's Canadian press story. So of course, they all buy up the Canadian press stories and

00:28:00.220 run them verbatim. Every single outlet out there runs these, uh, these same stories, but it's

00:28:06.060 interesting to, to see, you know, of course they all have the same headline and they're all pushing

00:28:10.260 this that, well, you know, Pierre Polyev may be the very clear front runner among all the conservative

00:28:15.260 party, but you know, Jean Charest, he's, uh, got a little more, if you ask all Canadians who they

00:28:20.600 would prefer, they, uh, are a little more favorable. They say they want Jean Charest to win, not

00:28:25.100 Pierre Polyev. So, uh, I don't know. What are you, what are your thoughts on that, Matt?

00:28:28.620 I have a hard time believing that the average Canadian who would not vote for Pierre Polyev

00:28:36.740 would even know who Jean Charest is. Yeah. Let alone name any of his policies. So like, I mean,

00:28:43.460 I don't know, like to me, it just seems ridiculous. And if that's the case, like who cares what people

00:28:48.160 who aren't going to vote for the conservative party are going to vote for anyways, they're not

00:28:51.800 going to vote conservative no matter how you slice it. So to me, this is just like, you know, it's just

00:28:56.280 more of that, like sub subconscious conditioning to say, Oh no, he's not the guy. He's not the

00:29:01.240 front. Have you ever seen that social experiment where there's 20 people in an elevator and their

00:29:06.040 face, they walk in and they're facing the opposite way. And then there's one person who's not in on

00:29:10.360 it and they're facing forward at facing the door. Like they're like kind of supposed to. Yeah. And

00:29:14.500 as the elevator goes up and down the floors, more people get off and get on and they're all facing

00:29:19.000 the wrong way. And eventually the one person that's not in on the experiment turns around.

00:29:23.960 Like, Oh, okay. I guess. Yeah. I think this is more of that kind of, you know, mind strict

00:29:30.920 subconscious conditioning. Like, Oh, oh yeah. So he wouldn't, he wouldn't win. There's no way.

00:29:39.140 There's nothing. In reality, as a fact, hey, they're not.

00:29:49.940 Now, Matt, I don't know if it's just me, but I regret to say, I think we're having those same audio

00:29:54.100 issues. Are we? Cause I'm having trouble hearing you right now. I'm getting feedback on my end too.

00:30:00.180 Yeah. Okay. Well now I'm hearing you again, but I think, uh, I think good. Say something for me,

00:30:05.700 Matt. Uh, can you hear me? I'm not using headphones anymore. So yeah. Okay. I can hear that. That was

00:30:12.180 weird. You were sort of cutting out for me a little bit. Hopefully that was, uh, just a one small issue,

00:30:17.780 but yeah, no, I think, uh, I think you're right there. And, um, what was the point I was going to

00:30:23.460 make there? Uh, yeah. It's interesting how they're saying, uh, they're trying to paint it as if, well,

00:30:27.380 you know, the conservatives might all like Pierre Polyev, but, um, Jean Charest has a much better

00:30:32.180 chance of winning a general election, which I think that argument doesn't add up because

00:30:36.900 if you remove Jean Charest from the equation by pure winning the election, and then it's just

00:30:41.700 Justin Trudeau versus Pierre Polyev or Justin Trudeau versus Jean Charest. First of all, I don't

00:30:46.260 know how Jean Charest would actually win versus Justin Trudeau. I feel like he just seems like such,

00:30:50.980 you know, it would be like a classic example of all the old white guy boomer versus the, you know,

00:30:54.980 still Trudeau with that younger, hipper sort of presence. I don't know how he would be able to sort of

00:31:00.020 tag it versus I feel like Polyev would have a much more appealing message for Canadians across

00:31:04.580 the political spectrum because the way he's tackling things is he's actually saying, Hey,

00:31:09.060 I'd be here to help the working class. Who's been struggling under inflation and under this,

00:31:12.580 all this economic mismanagement. Yeah. I don't know. It just seems like, uh,

00:31:16.900 it seems like a very disingenuous sort of a way to try and spin this poll.

00:31:21.460 Yeah. And it's, you know, it's, it's the same line of thinking that puts, uh, Aaron O'Toole

00:31:25.860 in front as a leader. Like, why would you vote for, for Aaron O'Toole if you like Justin Trudeau

00:31:31.540 or you like Jackson Singh if you're progressive? Why would you vote for a fake moderate progressive

00:31:36.500 when you can just vote for progressive? There needs to be a stark opposite to the status quo to

00:31:42.500 have a chance. And it's just, it doesn't make sense to me. And I, but honestly, I don't think

00:31:47.940 anybody that's actually paying attention to what's happening in our political landscape

00:31:51.700 would buy this or, or field. So, yeah, no, I think, I think you're very right. It's, uh,

00:31:58.180 I don't think anything like that polls like that, or anything of the sort, that sort of, uh, rhetoric

00:32:04.100 sort of surrounding the leadership race. I really don't think that's affecting much of it at all.

00:32:07.780 And it's interesting to see if you look at the poll there, that the numbers for the most part have

00:32:11.140 remained pretty, pretty flat throughout the race and the leadership ballots are already out. People

00:32:15.060 have already most, I imagine we've already sent in their votes. So it seems like pretty well,

00:32:19.940 we're just, it's almost a waiting game at this point. Maybe the, the leaders are still trying

00:32:23.860 to rake in some more donations for their campaigns, but at this point it's, you know,

00:32:27.220 we'll see it comes September 10th, September 10th, but it seems pretty clear that Pauliev is going

00:32:32.740 to be taking it. So it'll be interesting to see how things play out from there and whether or not

00:32:37.140 we'll actually have a general election happen anytime soon, whether or not, uh, that liberal NDP, uh,

00:32:42.900 agreement will hold up continually and that plays forward, which is sort of how those two tie in.

00:32:47.220 Stephen's, you know, this, this is almost misinformation because the poll, the sample

00:32:54.820 poll is 1500 people drawn from a representative panel. Okay. So how many people view, uh, you know,

00:33:02.580 on the daily and national posts, CBC, CTV, who's actually using this poll to spin their narrative?

00:33:08.980 Maybe not more than 1500 people these days. No, but I would imagine a lot more than 1500 people. So

00:33:13.700 where did these 1500 people come from? Yeah. How did they pull the sample size? Were they liberals?

00:33:19.940 Were they progressives? We're like, who knows where they got this? So it's just, it's not truthful.

00:33:26.420 It's not honest. It's not like being completely honest. And I'm not saying that they're liars,

00:33:30.340 but you know, they're, they're taking this poll, which is the sample size of 1500 people,

00:33:34.340 but who knows how they got these 1500 people or where they come from. And then using that to say,

00:33:39.140 oh, there's no charade is more likely to win a general. It's like, this is, this is a nothing,

00:33:44.020 but this is essentially making.

00:33:53.460 Oh, sorry. I actually, I think I'm having audio issues of my own here. Cause I did not hear the

00:33:58.180 last bit you were saying. I think it might be my own personal receiver. That's cutting out on me now.

00:34:01.780 I'm not sure. No. Okay. I don't think we were getting you at all there again. Uh,

00:34:06.420 if we keep having these audio struggles, hopefully they don't continue, but, uh, yeah,

00:34:11.140 so we're going to throw now to a trailer for you. I think, I think we're going to get this

00:34:16.580 sorted out a little bit. So once again, stay with us. I think we're going to be talking about,

00:34:20.820 Matt, the Kamloops documentary that you were referencing before, because we do want to discuss

00:34:24.900 that while you have, while we have you with us here. I think that's a, it's, it's a really important

00:34:29.220 subject to discuss, especially when, uh, when we have you on the stream here. So we're going to throw

00:34:33.380 to that trailer, and then we're going to talk about this. Well, the remains of 215 children

00:34:39.140 have been found in a mass grave in Canada. Many of you know that just over a year ago,

00:34:44.500 the discovery of the remains of 215 children was found at the Kamloops Indian Residential

00:34:50.740 School at the Kamloops Shaswamek First Nation. But what if I were to show you that what I just said

00:34:57.620 wasn't true? And that in fact, a year later, not a single body has been found.

00:35:04.820 This mass grave is a painful reminder of the genocide.

00:35:10.100 Hammond's leaders aren't condemning the burning of churches. No, they're endorsing

00:35:14.100 the burning of churches. A juvenile rib bone that surfaced in the same area.

00:35:18.020 You'd be surprised the number of people who say, you know, I'm a doctor, I'm a paramedic,

00:35:22.900 and this is definitely, you know, and it's definitely not.

00:35:26.980 It's like the chief? Yes.

00:35:29.060 It could be more real.

00:35:38.100 Now Matt, tell us a little bit about this. This trailer we just watched, this documentary that you

00:35:42.980 and Drea, uh, work to put together. Uh, tell us about the story. Tell us what's so significant about this.

00:35:49.780 When the story first broke that the remains of two hundred and fifteen children were found on site

00:35:57.620 of the Kamloops community residential school, um, Drea and I went up to Kamloops just with the intention

00:36:05.220 of hopefully talking to some people who were there, um, seeing if we could get any first-hand accounts

00:36:10.500 of what it was like living in Kamloops during this time, living on, or in these schools. Um, but we were

00:36:17.380 met with just obstacle after obstacle. No one wanted to talk to us. Stories weren't lining up.

00:36:24.100 And then following that came, you know, we didn't, we couldn't even begin to anticipate

00:36:29.700 how this story was going to affect the fabric of our, of our country, you know, between the 70 plus

00:36:35.140 churches that were vandalized and burnt, some of them burnt down. Um, the huge protests, uh, it even

00:36:42.580 dominated, you know, the, the narrative of our, our whole election cycle. Uh, we spent more time

00:36:48.180 talking about, um, reparations because of this discovery than we did the economy or the pandemic

00:36:54.580 when we were in the middle of a pandemic and those two were obviously tied so closely. Um, so,

00:36:59.540 you know, flags were at half mass for who knows how long. Um, and the, the public sentiment is that people

00:37:06.580 believed that, you know, 215 kids were found in some sort of mass pit behind a church that was

00:37:14.980 dug by a bunch of heinous, you know, nuns and, and priests. And unfortunately our politicians just

00:37:24.100 kind of capitalized and stoked the fans of, you know, Christophobia and anti-colonialism,

00:37:31.060 anti-patriarchy, and use that as again, political leverage during our election campaign. So anyways,

00:37:36.580 Dre and I went up there on the one year anniversary. We weren't thinking that we were

00:37:41.620 going to get anything. Like to be completely honest, we went up there originally thinking,

00:37:46.180 okay, let's just go back to the school. We'll do a report on the one year, essentially saying still

00:37:51.540 there has been no excavations, still there have been no developments. Um, and that was kind of

00:37:56.260 going to be it. However, after being up there after 36 hours, uh, we just, we just randomly called

00:38:03.700 the BC coroner's office. We ended up speaking with their chief forensic investigator. They didn't

00:38:08.020 know that we were reporters and they spelled out a bunch of stuff for us, uh, essentially about their

00:38:15.060 lack of involvement in the whole investigation. Um, the, the actual practicality of ground penetrating

00:38:21.700 radar and what it can actually be used to discern and discover and what it can and cross-referencing

00:38:27.380 that with the actual, uh, you know, the press release from the, the, the, to come with the

00:38:32.660 short makeup. And, um, we ended up getting a 10 minute interview with the chief, uh, Cook B, uh,

00:38:40.020 Asenir, uh, who had also been avoiding us for about a year. Uh, she didn't realize that the camera was

00:38:46.180 recording and she gave us a lot and I don't want to spoil it. And again, I also don't want it.

00:38:52.740 I need to be clear. We didn't go up there with some sort of agenda to like, let's disprove this

00:38:57.700 heinous discovery. Um, we felt very, at first we felt kind of icky about it because it's, it's

00:39:04.180 terrible. And if, if, if this, if this discovery is true, like it's, it's a dark spot on our country

00:39:09.940 and like, no one wants to, you don't want to go into something like that thinking, oh, this is a lie.

00:39:15.060 We're going to go on a mission to disprove it. Like, that's not what this was about at all. It's just,

00:39:19.700 we weren't able to ask any question and not only us, other media outlets weren't

00:39:23.860 able to ask any questions. And if you ask any questions, it was deemed as disrespectful,

00:39:28.500 at least, you know, uh, possibly racist at most, even though, you know, Drea is an indigenous

00:39:34.980 reporter. So that's just not good enough, you know? So essentially what is about to come out

00:39:40.820 on August 31st, it's just us going up to cameras with the camera for 36 hours and asking

00:39:46.740 as many questions as we can, uh, with unconventional methods.

00:39:51.140 And it's truly shocking stuff that we were, uh, we found out.

00:39:56.740 Well, yeah, I'm, I'm really excited to check that out because, you know, like we were saying,

00:39:59.700 it's a story that dominated Canadian news headlines for so many months. Like you were mentioned,

00:40:06.260 like the flags were at half mass for like, wasn't it over a year that the flags across the country were

00:40:11.140 at half mass because of this. And then it all turned out to be the, what we were told at first

00:40:15.140 was not true, that there was so much stuff that was misrepresented. And so, yeah, I'm really looking

00:40:20.660 forward to seeing those firsthand accounts on the ground and sort of getting the side of the story

00:40:25.220 that so many people have not actually gotten. So I really look forward to that should be, uh,

00:40:29.780 should be quite good.

00:40:30.660 Yeah. I think it's going to be a shocking for some people and you know, I don't, I'm,

00:40:36.100 I'm by no means advocating claiming that, you know, uh, uh, cultural cleansing is a good thing

00:40:43.940 or that residential schools were all in all a hundred percent fine and dandy. Although some

00:40:48.660 people have good experiences. A lot of people have terrible experiences. That's not what this is about.

00:40:52.900 This is about the claim of the 215 children. And if they do exist, where are they? Because they need

00:40:59.380 to be, you know, their families need to be notified and, and put at peace for these missing children.

00:41:04.660 And also what does that mean? It's, it's, it's much easier to roll out such an inflammatory

00:41:10.660 statement than it is to roll it back. And I don't expect that regardless of like the cold,

00:41:16.420 hard facts that are in this documentary, all we can do is try to, you know, this is our way

00:41:20.900 of trying to heal the damage that's been done to our country by this claim. And unfortunately,

00:41:25.300 again, it's, it's, you know, officials and politicians using the average Canadian for fodder,

00:41:30.900 because like when we're up there, we're talking to people who attended this school and they had

00:41:35.780 fond memories of the school, but now that their fond memories are all overshadowed by,

00:41:39.940 you know, wow, I was living in on top of the graves of my brothers and sisters and I didn't

00:41:44.740 even know it. So the damage and the, the perpetuating narrative that indigenous people or people of color

00:41:53.140 in Canada can only be victims and nothing more, I think is very harmful. And of course we need to,

00:41:58.340 you know, right. Some of the wrongs that have been done and move forward. And,

00:42:01.540 and in a way that's inclusive and equitable for everybody, regardless of race or gender or

00:42:07.380 whatever else. However, uh, in use in this political chess game, that only advantage,

00:42:13.300 that only advantage players, that needs to stop. So, um, I'm hoping that, uh, that heart shines.

00:42:20.660 Yeah, for sure. Well, yeah, again, it's such an important issue. And like, like you were saying

00:42:29.220 about how, like the way, also the way this story was sort of perpetuated because we, you know, you

00:42:34.980 mentioned the government officials, the politicians, everyone who sort of attacked this story or really

00:42:41.860 tried to push it with an ideological frame to it with a bit of a bent in the way they pushed it.

00:42:47.060 Um, it was just, it's just incredible to see the contrast between that and a lot of the facts you're

00:42:54.020 finding on the ground. And I think that kind of, uh, that ties into sort of the next headline I'm

00:42:58.660 seeing on, on here, uh, talking about the mainstream media, pushing that with the CBC,

00:43:03.460 uh, apparently CBC to spend even more of our taxpayer dollars on diversity quotas, which is a whole other

00:43:09.700 issue in itself. So let's, uh, why don't we throw this article up there from our friend Spencer Fernando,

00:43:15.220 CBC to spend even more of your taxpayer dollars on diversity quotas. And yeah, like a sub headline

00:43:21.460 says there, the idea of merit-based success is completely absent in the government, which I think

00:43:26.100 is something we're so plagued with, especially in Canada. It's like at every single level of our

00:43:31.220 government, anything that has any air of officialness to it, um, really has deeply ingrained,

00:43:38.900 like really rooted in it, identity politics and diversity for the sake of diversity.

00:43:45.220 And you know, the idea, the, even, just even the mere thought of meritocracy in any sense

00:43:51.700 isn't even considered. So I don't know. I, I think that's shocking. Do you have any like key takeaways

00:43:55.860 from the story there that, uh, you think are significant to touch on?

00:43:58.580 Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's not surprising to me. Um, cause here's the thing, you know,

00:44:04.660 saying that 30% or over 30% of all programming needs to be, uh, LGBTQ visual minority racialized

00:44:12.740 producers, producers with disabilities. Okay. Sure. That's fine. But what about political meanings?

00:44:20.100 Like, are you going to have a, uh, you know, a program produced by staunch black conservatives?

00:44:25.300 Yeah. I don't know. Or, uh, disabled Christians. How about that? How about we, how about the,

00:44:31.220 how about the CBC makes a program about that? So like, it's just this, again, it's just like

00:44:35.540 you touched on, it's this identity politics, assuming that all people who are around, all people who are

00:44:41.380 gay, trans, all people who are disabled, all fit into this political bubble. And that's just, it's not

00:44:47.780 true. And, you know, all you need to do is hop outside of your public to realize that. And again,

00:44:54.340 this is just stoking more division, I think. Yeah. Well, no, absolutely. And I think that

00:44:59.860 reminds me of a story, uh, Sheila did. I think it was the other week where she was talking about

00:45:04.820 how the CBC, uh, like she did an access to information request. She found that the CBC

00:45:09.540 had a blanket vaccine mandate for any CBC employee, anyone in the studio audience there, any panelist

00:45:18.020 who's discussing things in the CBC, any contractors who were working, anyone who came anywhere on or

00:45:24.900 near a CBC facility, anywhere in the country, even when like the government didn't have vaccine

00:45:29.380 mandates, even when it wasn't the law, they had these vaccine mandates in place. And I think that

00:45:33.700 sort of speaks to the idea of, yeah, here's your story there. Um, she talks about how the CBC claims

00:45:40.020 to be all about diversity and showing different viewpoints and how it's, you know, part of their

00:45:43.380 mandate, they're going to, you know, try and give good balanced journalism showing every viewpoint.

00:45:47.860 But when you watch the CBC, especially throughout all of the COVID-19 pandemic, you see one single

00:45:53.380 viewpoint on the vaccines and vaccine mandates and vaccination. And they sort of create this

00:45:57.860 narrative that there's this one consensus across the board that nearly every single Canadian is in

00:46:02.900 favor of vaccine mandates. And how could you not be, how could you not think that, you know,

00:46:08.180 that vaccines are the way to go for every single soul and there's no exception. And it's just

00:46:12.100 completely uniform. She points out that, well, if you're not allowing any single unvaccinated

00:46:17.220 contributors or panelists or any members of your studio audience or any employees at all,

00:46:21.940 and you're kicking out anyone who has not taken the vaccine, then you are completely cutting off

00:46:27.940 this massive segment of the Canadian population. I think to this date, around five to six million

00:46:33.380 Canadians, somewhere around there remain unvaccinated, which I think is very significant

00:46:38.260 considering the pressure from all sides to take the vaccine, regardless of your views on it.

00:46:42.980 There's so much pressure that most people will have buckled to that. So I think that's an incredible

00:46:48.500 number. The fact that many people are unvaccinated in Canada and the fact that that entire segment of

00:46:54.020 the population, or even those who are vaccinated and still just believe in medical privacy that,

00:46:59.460 you know, if you got the vaccine, whether or not you got the vaccine, that shouldn't be affecting

00:47:04.020 whether or not you're allowed to do something in the public square. So I just, I just think that

00:47:08.980 was a really great bit from Sheila there, kind of pointing out the hypocrisy at the CBC claiming to

00:47:13.380 be all about diversity, but not showing, like you said, that, you know, a wide array of viewpoints on

00:47:19.140 really key issues like COVID-19 vaccines and vaccine mandates.

00:47:24.340 And one of the main problems with that specifically, although there are dozens of problems with that,

00:47:29.140 is that by claiming that there's only one viewpoint and taking a dogmatic approach to something that's

00:47:34.900 obviously nuanced as, you know, injuries and lawsuits and whatever else roll out, it allows

00:47:41.860 those five to six million people to be demonized and ostracized by the rest who have participated

00:47:47.380 and have capitulated. And, you know, it's interesting because you hear often the proponents for this

00:47:55.860 inclusivity on television. They're saying, well, I wish I had someone who looked like me on TV growing

00:48:00.260 up, growing up because then my life wouldn't suck so much. And like, we laugh about that, you know.

00:48:05.620 However, in this, in the era of the pandemic and, you know, misinformation and weaponizing truths,

00:48:10.980 weaponizing your truth and my truth, it's actually created this, you know, we saw a second-class

00:48:16.260 citizenship in Canada develop with five to six million unvaccinated people. And I don't really see that

00:48:22.580 going away. So diversity of opinion and thought is important if it's a truthful representation and

00:48:31.140 truly diverse, you know, but it shouldn't, if it doesn't invoke some sort of heated debate or

00:48:38.100 discussion, it's not true diversity. This idea that we are all homogenized and we all should get along

00:48:43.940 and diversity is purely aesthetic, like the color of skin or sexual preference is just,

00:48:49.220 it's wrong at its core. It's just not, it's not the truth. So yeah, I forget where I saw this,

00:48:55.220 but it was just the other day. So something, it was some sort of study into political polarization

00:49:00.820 in the United States. And they were kind of talking about the idea that one of the reasons that there's

00:49:05.300 so much polarization in terms of people looking at the other side of the political aisle as, you know,

00:49:10.980 some sort of stereotype of, oh, you are this, you know, if you're looking at the Democrats,

00:49:15.140 oh, you're just, you know, these emotional, over emotional people who completely just go off of

00:49:19.940 how you feel. You're, you don't care about any of the facts. You don't care about effectively running

00:49:23.700 the country. You just are going to let it run into the ground because it makes you feel good.

00:49:27.540 Whereas Democrats, the Republicans, as you know, the old white men refusing to accept change and

00:49:32.180 sticking their feet in the ground and all of that, and we're super selfish. And it's sort of those

00:49:36.420 narratives and those stereotypes are perpetuated by both sides because increasingly people aren't

00:49:42.340 mixing with the other political side. There is like, we kind of stick to our own echo chambers

00:49:46.340 and our own sort of circles. And we refuse to run outside of our own political circles. And

00:49:51.300 there's no more real exchange of ideas in the political square. Like you would have back in the

00:49:57.220 day, like if you throw on a news cable program today, you are so much less likely to see genuine debate

00:50:03.700 with people featured from different sides compared to how you would have, you know, a couple of decades

00:50:08.900 ago. Because nowadays it's like, who's going to have on someone who people claim is, oh, you're just

00:50:14.100 some Nazi because you're a Republican or, you know, oh, if you're a Democrat, you're just some socialist

00:50:20.180 commie. You want to, you know, run our country into the ground. It's like, there's just so much name

00:50:24.420 calling and polarization. And a lot of that comes, like you were saying, when you can have that exchange

00:50:28.660 of ideas, diversity of viewpoint. So I just think it's such an important prevalent issue. That's

00:50:32.820 all throughout our media landscape and sort of how identity politics is really been having those

00:50:38.500 negative influences on every aspect of our society. Right. And unfortunately, you know, the,

00:50:44.500 those who are capitalizing off of that sort of, you know, that, that a vicious exchange or lack of

00:50:50.180 exchange of ideas, you can only push, you can only pull a rubber band so far before it either slings back or it breaks.

00:50:56.420 And in a time when we're seeing the president of the United States House being raided by the,

00:51:02.260 by the FBI on what many are calling fluff. Um, I can, I'm concerned, I'm concerned that we're,

00:51:10.740 we're pushing our, you know, this, this North American freedom experiment too far to a place that,

00:51:17.060 you know, it can't, it can't survive. Uh, I'm reading a book by Ray Dalio right now,

00:51:22.340 who is, uh, one of the, the lead economists for, uh, uh, massive hedge fund, uh, Bridgewater

00:51:27.300 Associates. And he released his book just after January 6th. And he was saying basically how, um,

00:51:33.860 him and his, uh, his Ivy league, uh, strategists, which is how they decide where they're going to

00:51:38.420 allocate funds and money have determined that there's a 36% chance as of January 6th,

00:51:43.940 that the United States will devolve or devolve into civil war. Wow.

00:51:47.940 And that's for the latest accounts with, uh, you know, obviously Roe v Wade, that's before Ukraine,

00:51:53.700 that's before any of the things that have been happening and dominating our, you know,

00:51:57.060 our day to day, our news cycle. Um, but the product of that is the reason for that is essentially

00:52:03.860 it's being stoked by its populism, it's poverty, and it's, it's, uh, a lack of accountability

00:52:10.500 by the media and government overreach into the media. And once you kind of start this train and this,

00:52:15.940 which is underpinned by excessive money printing and people not being able to provide for themselves,

00:52:22.340 everyone needs it, you know, you need someone to blame. So I, I, I, I'm concerned about what the

00:52:27.220 future holds. I'm concerned for, you know, my niece, I'm concerned for what this looks like.

00:52:32.100 And yeah, I don't really know. I don't really, I don't have the answer, but we need to be careful

00:52:38.580 to be dignified in our opinions and at least allowing others to, you know, voice their opinions,

00:52:44.340 even if they're incorrect without resulting to ad hominem or whatever else. Because,

00:52:48.340 you know, if, if I'm, if I'm being called a Nazi and I'm calling someone who disagrees with me a

00:52:53.060 dirty communist, like people are going to react, you know, people are going to start doing, uh,

00:52:58.660 the, the average protester is going to become a little bit more radicalized as these things,

00:53:04.660 you know, it's like, if you think that the world is going to melt in five years,

00:53:09.380 if we don't stop burning fossil fuels, well, then you should probably do something about that,

00:53:13.460 right? Like, if you actually believe that, if you actually believe the world's going to end,

00:53:18.180 why wouldn't you tie yourself to a tree or lay down on a highway? Like, that's the least you could

00:53:22.500 do. Yeah, it's concerning. Yeah, it's, it's very true. It's very true. And it's like,

00:53:30.340 I always say, you know, put people over politics and it's, it's pretty easy to say that pretty hard to

00:53:35.460 practice it, especially when you're in very involved in a political sphere, when you have

00:53:39.700 those core beliefs, like you're saying, like, if you genuinely believe that the world is going to

00:53:43.540 end in five years, if you don't do something to drastically reduce emissions, and then you see

00:53:48.580 these people saying, no, that's completely ridiculous. We're not going to do that. You see

00:53:52.580 them as being just in denial to what's going to happen. Um, of course you're going to do something

00:53:57.780 drastic and same, it goes both ways. Both sides kind of see the other as, as, uh, you know,

00:54:03.220 ready to perpetuate some sort of crisis. And I think it's, we are seeing a pattern of that's

00:54:08.420 escalating. We're seeing more and more people really thinking the other side is out to get me.

00:54:13.460 They're out to destroy the world and therefore drastic action is necessary. And it just keeps

00:54:17.460 pulling people apart and it keeps raising tensions even more. So yeah, like you were saying there,

00:54:22.820 there's a lot of concern there. I mean, I'm still very hopeful that some way, you know, like you're

00:54:28.180 saying with the, uh, the rubber band, it can either snap or it can bounce back and hoping some,

00:54:32.900 there's some way we might be able to just ease the tension and let it go back. I don't know.

00:54:37.220 Cause, uh, hopefully we don't end up pulling that rubber band too far, but so, you know, I'm, I'm,

00:54:42.660 like you said, concerned, but also there's some optimism there that I don't know what it would be,

00:54:47.460 but I feel like there has to be something that could help us to, uh, you know, ease things,

00:54:52.420 let things cool off a little more before, uh, before the world ends, hopefully, you know,

00:54:56.580 yeah, we can only hope for that. Yeah. Well, I mean, we are coming close to the end of our hour

00:55:02.980 here. This is crazy. So I think we might as well get to some paid chats here. I think there were

00:55:07.140 some more we wanted to talk about, but I mean, I figure we've, we've covered a good bit of what

00:55:11.860 we want to. And I think it is important to get to any paid chats we may have here with those who

00:55:15.940 have been so kind enough to send us these chats. So yeah, let's jump into it here. Uh,

00:55:21.540 Frasbo says law breaking news. Trump says he never wanted to run for the 2024 election,

00:55:27.860 but now that you have invaded my private, beautiful home, I'll run now and I'll work

00:55:31.380 harder and harder to win. Join me lol. Yeah. I, uh, I think that's interesting. Like,

00:55:36.420 cause you, you had so many people looking at Trump and kind of saying like, oh yeah,

00:55:41.300 he's yesterday's news. Now, you know, after he, uh, is now sort of going in more into the shadows,

00:55:46.580 he's off Twitter. He's just got his true social and people are saying, oh,

00:55:49.780 his base of support is kind of falling apart. But something like this, where the FBI raiding

00:55:54.100 is home for what a lot of people believe to be just like you were saying, just fluff. Uh,

00:55:59.300 it's really having a lot of people rally behind him. We had our, our guy in Florida, Juan Mendoza.

00:56:04.900 He was outside Mar-a-Lago talking to a lot of the Trump supporters who came out there to protest

00:56:09.300 this FBI raid. And, uh, yeah, they were really, really fired up. And there's a lot of people who are

00:56:14.580 now rallying behind Trump just cause like, I guess it helps to, to sort of push that

00:56:19.860 anti-establishment sentiment. Cause that's what Trump represents. I think to those who support

00:56:23.220 him, he is someone pushing against the establishment and people like that. They like that, you know,

00:56:28.660 he's pushing against things like, you know, they look at the FBI and the department of justice and

00:56:32.580 they think that they're quite corrupted. Uh, it's been politicized in how they're doing things or,

00:56:38.100 you know, they see them raiding Trump's place, but then not really doing anything about Hillary

00:56:42.100 Clinton or Joe Biden and the Hunter Biden laptop scandals and all of that. Um, yeah,

00:56:47.380 it's a long winded way of saying, yep, I think you make a very fair point there. Uh,

00:56:51.060 this thing is done nothing but to bolster the side of Trump's base and his support.

00:56:55.380 I don't know if you got anything to say there, Matt.

00:56:56.980 Matt. Oh, I think you nailed it. You know, and if anything, this is just a rally cry.

00:57:02.180 Yeah. Um, so yeah, well, it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

00:57:05.860 Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I have a lot of impacts on, you know, the upcoming, uh, I think midterms,

00:57:11.220 uh, in the U S in 2022 and 2024. So it'd be interesting to see how this all plays out.

00:57:16.980 Uh, let's see here. King seven, seven, three, four. Does the rainbow community get bent out of

00:57:21.860 shape? When you move your outdoor flowers to a new planter, they're being trans planted. Hmm.

00:57:27.620 I think I saw one of these jokes last time I was on the live stream talking about the transatlantic

00:57:31.540 ocean. Not, you know, not a bad one. I don't know. I don't know. Matt, what do you think?

00:57:35.220 No comment. No comment. Yeah. He's, he's not going to disrespect, uh, his friends in the trans

00:57:41.460 community. Sorry, uh, King, uh, whatever your username was. I'm so sorry. I forgot it. But,

00:57:46.820 uh, yes, yes. Uh, Shauna Marie G 83, bad news. Trudeau is prime minister. Freeland is deputy prime

00:57:55.540 minister. Good news. We have rebel news provide us our daily dose of sanity. Love you guys. And thank

00:58:00.180 God for the blessing of your honest reporting. Well, Shauna Marie, thank you so much.

00:58:04.900 Matt, you got something to say to Shauna Marie. Yeah. We can't do this without, you know,

00:58:09.300 you guys. So thank you. Uh, we are a product of, of you, you know, we are, uh, we are filling

00:58:15.380 the void. So yeah, please keep viewing, send us tips, their stories you want us to cover.

00:58:22.900 And please know that none of this is fought is possible without you guys. So, uh, all the donations

00:58:27.940 help every, every black adds up. So yeah, thank you so much. Yeah. So grateful to our very loyal viewers.

00:58:34.900 Uh, King seven, seven, three, four again about the farmer rebellion. People will no longer have

00:58:39.940 the ability to heat non-existent food in a Dutch oven. I think you need to say there.

00:58:45.780 I think that's another joke. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm not really laughing at that.

00:58:49.700 Okay. Now I am laughing, but, uh, uh, or maybe that was a serious comment that

00:58:53.780 flew over my head, but I think you're making a joke.

00:58:55.620 Yeah. Uh, you crack me up King Pamela for freedom. Great podcast episode on kid Carson

00:59:02.900 show and Sarah Swain explaining the potential fall election. What could be playing out with

00:59:07.060 liberal leadership and the potential for a true coalition. Interesting. I have to check that out

00:59:12.260 because I've not seen anything about that. I don't know anything. Any comment?

00:59:15.620 I haven't either. Kid's been doing really great work. Uh, for those of you who aren't familiar with

00:59:20.180 kid Carson, he was a, uh, very, uh, basically a household name, DJ in Vancouver on a, you know,

00:59:26.500 top 40 radio station who essentially last summer, uh, or last fall, or sorry, before the trucker

00:59:33.620 combos around February, he said, you know, uh, the vaccine passports are nonsense. Uh, all of

00:59:39.860 basically saying some things that I can't say on YouTube, but many of our viewers would appreciate.

00:59:43.860 And since then he's been an advocate for freedom and freedom of speech. So, uh, yeah, uh,

00:59:48.580 he recently had, uh, Drea Humphrey as well on his show in the last couple of weeks. So yeah,

00:59:52.500 check out that podcast. It's great. Yeah. I haven't seen anything from him. So that's, uh,

00:59:56.580 that's good to know. Any other chats we got there? Uh, Mel Haywire, Alberta has the Alberta child health

01:00:04.180 benefit for low-income families. This covers dental glasses, prescriptions, ambulance, and diabetes

01:00:08.660 supplies. Yeah, obviously like we, we do have so many, you know, benefits and structures and

01:00:13.860 programs in place in Canada. Uh, so I think that, uh, yeah, I, I, I find that interesting about how

01:00:21.540 the current existing provincial programs, how those sort of play into this idea of

01:00:27.060 Justin Trudeau needing to push a federal dental plan, but also have the provinces be doing it. Like,

01:00:32.420 I'm not sure of all the details there, Matt. I don't know. You got anything to comment on there?

01:00:36.340 I'm not sure of all the details either. I'm not in Alberta, so I can't comment on

01:00:40.420 health services specifically, but I do imagine that, you know, getting all of this stuff penned

01:00:45.860 by September is, is impossible. So, you know, it's more just political theater, I think. Yeah.

01:00:53.380 Yeah, it's true. Uh, Frasbo, uh, what we have learned from BC mess is don't believe government

01:01:03.220 or the fake news media have been a watcher of rebel news since Ezra launched it in his basement.

01:01:07.620 Uh, well, glad to have you as a loyal viewer since day one, Frasbo. And, uh, yeah, it's true.

01:01:14.500 There's just, there's so many, it's like, that's why people are so skeptical of news these days is

01:01:18.500 because there's so much more narrative and agenda pushing and sort of ideological harping rather than

01:01:23.860 just genuine level nuanced reporting and actually talking about some of the complex issues that are

01:01:29.780 far from black and white as they're portrayed by different outlets. Right. And, you know, especially

01:01:34.820 with the, what's, what's happening in downtown Eastside, uh, when I've been, I've been down there

01:01:39.940 a few times now and I don't claim to have all the answers. I just, you know, I don't want to hear

01:01:44.100 what CBC says about what the locals think. I want to hear what the locals think. Then, you know,

01:01:48.740 let you guys decide and not insert myself into the situation, but just observe it and, you know,

01:01:54.660 dignify people with, you know, looking by looking them in the eye and having a conversation with them,

01:01:58.980 whether they're, you know, politician or homeless, they're still in my, in my worldview and in my

01:02:04.340 beliefs, they're still, you know, one of God's creations and they, they deserve that eye contact.

01:02:09.300 So yeah, if you guys appreciate that reporting that we've been doing, uh, let me know. I'd love

01:02:13.620 to cover more in that area. Uh, yeah, I know. I, I sure love it personally. Like that sort of like

01:02:18.500 human interest type stories and like just going out onto the street and genuinely trying to connect

01:02:22.660 with people and ask them real questions. I really love that. Cause I feel like that's like,

01:02:26.260 we were talking about sort of breaking through echo chambers. And I think when you focus on

01:02:29.860 people's humanity and people as an individual and have genuine conversations like that,

01:02:34.740 I think it helps to break down those walls and that polarization. So I'm a fan. I think, uh,

01:02:40.020 I think it's good stuff, but, uh, okay, we are DRB one, three, one, three, 11th, June,

01:02:46.740 2008, prime minister Harper and the house of commons gave an apology for residential schools.

01:02:51.140 A Royal commission followed and $2 billion paid. Why apologize two, three, four, five times.

01:02:56.980 I think you make an excellent point. Yeah, that is true. And that's something that

01:03:00.660 has gotten very little attention during this last revelation and news cycle. And,

01:03:06.260 you know, without giving away too much, um, it is my understanding that there are currently no plans

01:03:13.300 to excavate any of these sites. So I will leave it with our very intelligent viewers to think about why

01:03:20.580 that might be. Yeah. And like my, my one comment always on the residential school thing, especially

01:03:25.620 since the latest, uh, sort of push, uh, that we had since that sort of discovery, the two 15 bodies

01:03:31.940 that, uh, you know, that whole breaking story that was really pushed. I remember thinking at the time,

01:03:37.220 like, how is this news to people? Like, I guess the new thing was they were saying, guys, we actually

01:03:41.380 found bodies, but I remember thinking like, none of this is news to me. Like I learned about this

01:03:45.460 growing up in school, being told about, you know, so many of the horrors that so many people

01:03:49.620 experienced in residential schools. Uh, we talked about the, like, I remember talking about the

01:03:54.020 truth and reconciliation commission when I came out in 2015 and about their estimations that

01:03:58.740 thousands of children had ended up dying in the schools, whether it was from different diseases

01:04:03.380 or from, uh, you know, not being treated well enough, uh, in certain areas, given proper care,

01:04:08.180 or whether it was from abuse or, you know, uh, other terrible, tragic things like that. But I just

01:04:13.620 remember thinking like, like people reacting as if they were learning about that stuff for the first time.

01:04:17.620 And I guess a lot of them were, but yeah, I just remember thinking like, this isn't really news

01:04:21.620 to me. Like it's, it's terrible, this revelation, but I already kind of knew this and then sort of

01:04:26.980 coming out that the bodies they thought they found may not have been the bodies they thought they

01:04:31.060 found. So. Right. Yeah. And you have to really, you just have to zoom out and look at the timing

01:04:36.580 of all of this, right? Look at the pandemic, the excessive spending, look at black lives matter

01:04:42.100 and George Floyd protests in the States and look at our election and then look at this discovery

01:04:46.820 and ask yourself who benefits from this narrative and how does it all fit together?

01:04:51.940 That's the conspiracy theorist in you, Matt. What can I say?

01:04:56.180 Uh, world Z worst gamer, our world's worst gamer, world Z. I don't know. It came to my mind. World

01:05:01.460 War Z zombies, good stuff. Anyways, uh, capitalism is the issue. So many things that would enrich people's

01:05:06.740 lives truly are hidden behind paywalls till that goes away. The world will always be shit.

01:05:12.500 Well, thank you. World's worst gamer for that bit. I'm not sure I agree with you there. I wouldn't

01:05:16.660 say capitalism is the issue. I think there are many, many issues, uh, there. I mean, paywalls are

01:05:23.860 always annoying. I agree. I, uh, I've never been a fan of paywalls, but you know what? Sometimes if

01:05:29.300 someone has a good product, you're, it's worth paying for it's worth paying for. And, uh, please tell me

01:05:34.900 what is the better alternative. That's what I'd like to hear. Yeah. I, you know, I have this

01:05:42.500 issue with people who claim that capitalism is the, the, uh, the problem with all things at ALS,

01:05:48.980 because I think it elite, it, uh, discounts the, the inequity and the frailty and the corruption of

01:05:55.940 the human heart, thinking that some sort of benevolent leader will come and just make everything

01:06:00.500 better. And, and I just, it was too much power. And I think capitalism, although it is broken

01:06:06.820 in some areas, it is a great equalizer and it's been proven to lift more people out of poverty than

01:06:11.220 any other system. And I think we're broken. So we're deserving of a broken system, but

01:06:17.060 you know, I've never heard, I've never heard put that way, which, uh, I kind of like,

01:06:20.020 I kind of like, I think like the system is reflective of us, you know? And, uh, yeah, you're so right.

01:06:25.700 Well, I think, I think that's it for chats. I don't think we have any more think we're good.

01:06:29.540 So, and that's us five past the hour, nearly on time. I don't know, thanks so much for joining us.

01:06:34.980 And, uh, I had a great time, despite all the technical issues we ran, we ran into,

01:06:38.420 I think we had some real good discussions there. Hopefully viewers, you forgive us for, uh,

01:06:42.660 our own failures and slipping up there. Most of you, I think fully understand you're all the best for

01:06:48.340 us staying with us up to this point. So until next time we do do this every single weekday,

01:06:54.260 we've got rotating hosts Monday through Friday, noon Eastern standard time. That would be 10 AM

01:06:59.700 mountain time. If you're in Alberta, if you're in BC, it would be 9 AM is when we start making sure

01:07:04.500 I hit all those points there. Uh, make sure to join us next time until then, you know what,

01:07:09.700 keep it all together. I hope you stay safe, stay free, Matt, until next time,

01:07:14.340 it has been a pleasure. It was been great. God bless you all. Thank you. Cheers.

01:07:24.260 You're welcome, t.

01:07:36.100 Perhaps you've got a great deal.

01:07:38.500 Stay safe.

01:07:40.340 The World Economic Forum has its tentacles everywhere at the minute and what's

01:08:10.140 strange is the parallel between different countries.

01:08:12.860 You have working class people here in the Netherlands and working class people in Canada

01:08:17.700 and many other countries who are worried about the same thing, whether it be the World Economic

01:08:23.740 Forum or government overreach.

01:08:25.660 Greening our economies, that's exactly what we need to do to become less gas and oil dependence.

01:08:30.140 We're talking about a reduction.

01:08:32.660 How high will that reduction be and what are we reducing?

01:08:36.620 It's food, right?

01:08:38.260 It's right to the core of human survival.

01:08:40.780 People are ready to fight back and do what they can to make sure that the powers that be

01:08:44.900 don't follow through with their agendas.

01:08:47.260 They see now what's happening.

01:09:01.260 We see the light and that's the reason why we do this and we are all one team, one job.

01:09:07.900 You know, we are humans.

01:09:08.900 We are not criminals.

01:09:09.900 You know, we are humans.

01:09:10.900 We are not criminals.

01:09:11.900 They're not criminals.

01:09:14.900 We are animals.

01:09:15.840 You know, we are humans.

01:09:16.540 They are someone.

01:09:16.900 Who are humans trading at life.

01:09:18.540 Give me hope for money.

01:09:19.520 Give me hope.

01:09:20.320 We know that if You don't have one clue, please.

01:09:21.940 It's a turtle.

01:09:22.300 You know, we are

01:09:23.300 the lizard is all around 40 percent.

01:09:23.900 We have no clutching.

01:09:24.260 I have no clutching.

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01:09:25.220 You know, you're a dog.

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01:09:27.220 You know, glad it's all up.

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Rebel News Podcast - August 10, 2022

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