Rebel News Podcast - DAILY ｜ The calm before the storm in Ottawa

00:00:00.000 The capacity and the resources that are available, we've seen a major issue for the City of Ottawa

00:00:19.460 is in terms of the capacity of moving all these tractor trailers.

00:00:25.680 And does he know that Section 21 of the Criminal Code obliges transportation companies to provide the police with resources when they're asked?

00:00:37.200 And once again, does he agree that there's been a lack of balance between the existing law and available capacities and resources?

00:00:45.740 The Honourable Member for Bel-Aix-Chamberlée.

00:00:47.340 Except, well, if you want to immobilize a tractor trailer, unless you have the police involved, it can be illegal.

00:01:01.340 The Ottawa Police has asked for assistance since they're overwhelmed, and then you don't give them that help.

00:01:11.040 You say that we're going to send RCMP, and the Prime Minister starts to find things that are getting complicated.

00:01:21.740 And he himself has said that Ottawa Police has all the necessary power to intervene until he realized what he said didn't make sense.

00:01:31.340 Provinces have powers, and they have legislative abilities.

00:01:39.700 There are emergency acts in various jurisdictions, and it gives them all the necessary tools.

00:01:46.640 We shouldn't say without this, such laws wouldn't exist.

00:01:51.360 The province could have intervened and can.

00:01:55.080 They could have done that everywhere, except for here around the Parliament.

00:01:58.040 Question et commentaire, questions and comments.

00:02:02.060 The Honourable Member for Saanich Gulf Islands.

00:02:06.700 Merci, Monsieur le Président.

00:02:07.900 Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

00:02:08.920 I'd like to thank the Honourable Leader of the Bloc Québécois.

00:02:12.880 I have a question because I am concerned with the law and the geographical issue.

00:02:25.600 What we have in front of us lacks a clear reference to a geographical region.

00:02:30.780 Yesterday, the Prime Minister and other ministers said that the use of the Emergencies Act will include a geographical limit.

00:02:42.380 But I don't find it here.

00:02:46.600 So my question for the leader of the Bloc is this.

00:02:51.660 If the government amended the Act with the geographical limit, which excluded Quebec...

00:03:00.380 I want to acknowledge how they have suffered from threats and intimidation, from acts that were clearly intended to bring the greatest disruption to the lives of their fellow citizens, and indeed all Canadians.

00:03:27.820 I want to assure them that this will end, and that we will be there for them, to continue to support them, and to hold those who have taken from them the peace of their neighbourhoods and their communities.

00:03:42.480 We will hold them to account for their actions.

00:03:44.540 Thank you all very much.

00:03:45.820 Merci beaucoup.

00:03:46.280 I would like to invite people who may have questions of myself and my colleagues.

00:03:51.920 Please proceed.

00:03:52.400 Thank you.

00:03:55.660 We'll be taking journalist questions until 11.55.

00:03:59.040 And we'll start in the room.

00:04:01.280 Hi, it's Annie Bergeron-Oliver with CTV National News.

00:04:04.320 My question is for you, Minister Freeland.

00:04:06.100 You mentioned in your opening remarks that action is being taken by financial services, and that's making a difference.

00:04:11.620 I'm wondering if you can provide any specific numbers on how many accounts, either personal or corporate, are being targeted.

00:04:17.380 And also, what type of safeguards are in place to ensure that it's protesters and not simply someone with the same name whose accounts are being targeted and frozen?

00:04:27.540 Well, thank you very much for the question.

00:04:29.540 Thank you very much.

00:04:59.540 I do want to assure you, and through you all Canadians, that action is being taken.

00:05:06.840 We are seeing it, and that action is going to increase in the coming days.

00:05:14.640 It's a good question about what are the safeguards, and there I really want to assure all Canadians that that is something very much on our minds.

00:05:27.240 That is something that we and law enforcement and the financial service providers have been working on very, very carefully.

00:05:38.540 And that's why I say the financial, the use of the financial tools is actually going to increase in the coming days,

00:05:46.840 because it was important for us, because it was important for us to be sure that safeguards were in place.

00:05:51.500 And I do also want to say that the actions we have taken are emergency measures.

00:06:01.680 Due process remains in place.

00:06:05.940 Charter rights remain in place.

00:06:08.860 And of course, the courts are there, and they will be, these will all be institutions that will be there to support Canadians.

00:06:21.500 Okay, so my follow-up is in two parts then.

00:06:24.200 So you're confirming that accounts have been frozen, both personal and corporate, but you're not releasing the information.

00:06:29.640 And the actual follow-up is, I'm just wondering whether the bank accounts will be targeted of individuals who donated to the Give, Send, Go and the GoFundMe campaigns.

00:06:39.180 Are they considered designated people under the Emergencies Act, meaning that their credit cards could be cut and financial services are targeting them as well?

00:06:46.400 Okay, so the names of both individuals and entities, as well as crypto wallets, have been shared by the RCMP with financial institutions.

00:07:02.920 And accounts have been frozen, and more accounts will be frozen.

00:07:08.180 Crowdfunding platforms and payment service providers have started the registration process with FinTrack.

00:07:19.260 In terms of the specifics on whose accounts are being frozen, you now have the regulations.

00:07:30.460 The financial service providers have those regulations as well.

00:07:34.680 And they, working with law enforcement, will be making the operational decisions.

00:07:40.560 But I do want to say really clearly to Canadians, we have now outlined with great clarity that these blockades and occupations are illegal.

00:07:53.060 It is now time for people to go home, to take their trucks home, and to stop funding illegal blockades and occupations.

00:08:08.740 Yes, Alex Balingall with the Toronto Star.

00:08:13.780 Just on the same subject, the warning that you're issuing to the drivers about their accounts being suspended and their truck insurance being suspended is pretty unequivocal.

00:08:24.860 So I'm wondering if you can say, or shed some light on whether the, to what degree, I guess, the large financial institutions are actually on board with this.

00:08:33.100 And also clarify exactly why you can't share the figures, why that's an operational secret at this point.

00:08:43.900 The Emergencies Act has compelled financial service providers to take these actions.

00:08:52.560 And we have provided them with immunity for actions undertaken in good faith under these measures.

00:09:02.960 Those are two important facts.

00:09:06.620 The financial service providers have a stake in Canada and the Canadian economy.

00:09:13.200 And they are a really important institutional pillar of Canada.

00:09:22.100 They are, as they are legally obliged to do, collaborating properly and effectively with the RCMP and with law enforcement.

00:09:33.540 In terms of disclosing specifics, all of us had a conversation yesterday with law enforcement about that.

00:09:46.740 And there was a clear view that it's important right now not to in any way jeopardize the very important work law enforcement is taking.

00:09:59.560 And that's why I'm not disclosing the specifics, but let me assure you, those details will be disclosed in due course and soon.

00:10:10.020 And I want you to know it is happening.

00:10:12.800 I do have the numbers in front of me.

00:10:14.860 And I do particularly want people who are participating in illegal blockades and in illegal occupation to know these measures are real.

00:10:29.560 They are being used.

00:10:32.060 They will have an impact.

00:10:34.840 And there is a really easy way to avoid being affected by these measures.

00:10:41.000 And that is just go home.

00:10:43.420 Go back to work.

00:10:44.180 And I think that, Minister Mendicino, you mentioned that, you know, all the border crossings that have been blockaded are cleared.

00:10:54.580 There's been attempts, I guess, to re-blockade them.

00:10:57.740 And that that's been part of the justification you guys have used for the Emergencies Act.

00:11:02.320 But you've also mentioned that you want to lift this emergency declaration before the 30-day limit is up.

00:11:10.460 So if you if the concern is them returning, what are the conditions you need to see, I guess, as a government, as a cabinet in order to actually lift this emergency declaration?

00:11:20.520 Well, first and foremost, one of the conditions is that the blockades are no longer there.

00:11:30.660 And that is one of the reasons why we have been going to great pains over the last number of days to send a very clear, unequivocal message to those who are participating in them,

00:11:41.900 be they at a border or in front of a legislature, including here in Ottawa, in front of the parliament, but equally in the communities and in the neighborhoods where these are no longer just mere disturbances of the peace,

00:11:53.960 where there has been a rampant and flagrant disregard for the law.

00:11:57.940 The time is now to stop and to go home.

00:12:01.560 And you've heard me say it.

00:12:03.300 You've heard Minister Blair say it.

00:12:04.780 You've heard the Deputy Prime Minister say it.

00:12:07.000 You've heard the Prime Minister say it.

00:12:08.560 You've heard yesterday the interim Ottawa Police Chief say it.

00:12:12.860 There should be no ambiguity right now to anyone that is still participating in an illegal blockade,

00:12:19.900 whether it's for some misguided under the misguided belief that this is a lawful protest when it is not,

00:12:28.180 or for some other more malevolent purpose, the time is to go home.

00:12:32.320 And the invocation of the Emergencies Act is a resort that we came to as a result of the significant challenges that law enforcement using conventional tools had faced for the last three weeks.

00:12:45.260 And while we have made progress, while we see that the ports of entry are open right now,

00:12:50.420 I would suggest that at this fragile moment, it's precarious.

00:12:54.800 I mean, yesterday you just heard Mayor Drew Dilkens in the course of a press conference say that there was yet another effort to try and shut it down again.

00:13:02.700 And so, yes, I mean, I think we all want to be cautiously optimistic that we are coming to the end of it.

00:13:09.980 But in the meantime, as a government, we have an obligation and a responsibility to Canadians to make sure that we are using all of the tools in the box.

00:13:18.760 And, yes, that includes declaring certain areas as no-go zones.

00:13:23.580 That includes the ability to commandeer the kind of assets that are required to preserve the flow of traffic at our critical infrastructure, including at our borders.

00:13:34.720 That includes choking off proceeds, currencies that may be used to advance the illegal blockade.

00:13:41.680 And in the case of the RCMP, that includes using a very important and time-limited measure to be able to rapidly deploy them so that we can ensure that there is public safety.

00:13:52.860 So, you know, we're getting there, but we're not quite there yet.

00:13:57.300 And, obviously, it is our desire to see the measures that we have introduced under the Order of Sunset as quickly as possible.

00:14:04.700 But that will be a decision that is taken, again, very carefully on the advice of our officials, on the advice of law enforcement, and what we're seeing and hearing on the ground.

00:14:13.800 Thanks. We'll take one more question in the room and then take questions from the phone.

00:14:17.700 Une autre question dans la salle, ensuite les questions par téléphone.

00:14:22.080 Oui, bonjour, Laurence Martin de Radio-Canada.

00:14:23.720 Hello, Laurence Martin from Radio-Canada.

00:14:26.120 Question for Ms. Freeland.

00:14:31.000 Yeah, take your time. No problem.

00:14:34.700 On the frozen accounts, the bank accounts that have been frozen, I understand that you can't give us the specific numbers, but could you give us an idea?

00:14:47.160 Are we talking about a few dozen, a few hundred accounts that have been frozen so far?

00:14:52.620 For today, we made the decision, following discussions with people who have the operational responsibilities to implement these measures,

00:15:07.180 that this would not be the time to have this discussion regarding the number of frozen accounts.

00:15:20.440 Yes, but I can assure you that, to this point, there have been accounts that have been frozen.

00:15:27.720 It is in an ongoing process.

00:15:30.900 It's a process that will accelerate and be stepped up if the blockades and the occupations continue.

00:15:40.520 Question.

00:15:41.160 Question.

00:15:42.160 You are also saying that there are extremist, violent extremist elements in these blockade movements.

00:15:48.240 What specific concrete data do you have on that that you could share with us?

00:15:53.040 Answer.

00:15:58.440 It's information that the police services have found in Alberta, in Coutts.

00:16:05.440 Because they already talked about what those details are, they have more details that will be made public by police forces throughout the country.

00:16:20.720 But as Minister Mendicino stated, we understand that there may be people who did not get the message that these are illegal, unlawful blockades and occupations.

00:16:40.600 We want to tell those people that it's time, it's time to go home.

00:16:45.880 But it's also important for Canadians to understand that there are organized elements from extremist groups that are part of what's happening right now.

00:17:03.720 So, our government will not allow these elements to continue to threaten our economic institutions or democratic institutions and our economy.

00:17:24.840 Thank you.

00:17:26.260 We'll take your question by phone and then one last one in the room.

00:17:29.440 On the phone and then a last question in the room.

00:17:31.580 Opérateur, question, s'il vous plaît?

00:17:33.720 Opérateur, question, please?

00:17:35.540 For questions over the phone, please press star 1 on the device's keypad.

00:17:39.900 Pour les questions au téléphone, peut-être étoilant sur votre appareil.

00:17:43.800 La première question nous vient d'Émilie Bergeron.

00:17:46.440 The first question is from Émilie Bergeron, La Presse canadienne.

00:17:49.700 You have the floor.

00:17:51.080 Question.

00:17:52.360 Yes, hello.

00:17:53.300 This is a question from Ms. Freeland or Mr. Mendicino.

00:17:57.240 This is more about the debate happening at the House of Commons on the ratification on the Emergencies Act.

00:18:07.420 We feel, listening to you here, that you do feel like there's some urgency in having this being adopted quickly in the House.

00:18:21.420 What would a reasonable time frame be, one that is fair and sufficient, and when would you want to see the vote on the motion?

00:18:36.880 Thank you for this question, I'm going to start answering, and then I'll give the floor to Minister Mendicino.

00:18:46.620 To start, I will simply say that one of the key elements in these emergency measures is the vote in the House of Commons.

00:18:59.820 We used existing powers, currently existing in Canada, they are completely legal and completely constitutional.

00:19:14.780 For us, the element of ensuring that there's a debate at the House of Commons, that the House of Commons participate, that it votes on this, is completely essential.

00:19:29.820 Our goal today is to protect the democratic institutions of Canada, and we will proceed in an absolutely democratic fashion that absolutely respects the law.

00:19:47.260 And now I will give the floor to Minister Mendicino.

00:19:54.280 Minister Mendicino, answer.

00:19:57.700 Minister Mendicino.

00:19:58.280 I will then know them, Minister Minister Mendicino.

00:19:59.780 Thank you.

00:20:01.120 Minister Freeland...

00:20:01.960 Minister Freeland clearly explained what the process is and what we want to see over the next few days.

00:20:10.560 In my opinion, it's very important to take part in a debate that is fair and that is balanced and transparent.

00:20:18.560 We need to explain to Canadians all the reasons why we need to put this measure of last resort in place.

00:20:34.500 It is not an easy decision. It is a very delicate situation for everybody.

00:20:38.960 But the measures that are included in the Declaration and in the Order are necessary in the government's opinion.

00:20:48.560 They are necessary for police services to be able to take action quickly in a way that respects all the rights and freedoms protected under the Charter.

00:21:02.180 I hope the debates will demonstrate and put forward all those reasons that the government has to Canadians.

00:21:13.020 Question. Thank you.

00:21:18.020 So, as a follow-up, my question was more, when would you want to see the House move to a vote on this?

00:21:25.580 So, I'll ask the same question more directly.

00:21:28.200 When do you want to see the vote on this?

00:21:32.440 Do you want it to happen before the House adjourns tomorrow, which is Friday?

00:21:39.840 And for the Senate, quickly, because that was going to be my follow-up.

00:21:46.040 The Senate will be sitting tomorrow.

00:21:50.540 When do you think the Senate will be able to vote on this once it has been debated there?

00:21:58.200 For that second point, we are not sure when all the discussions will end, but we all want it to happen quickly yesterday.

00:22:13.020 But for your second, your first question regarding the Emergencies Act, it's a technical question.

00:22:23.080 It's a question that the House leader will be discussing with other House leaders in the House.

00:22:34.960 Thank you very much.

00:22:37.680 Last question, Maria. Go ahead.

00:22:43.320 Yes, question.

00:22:44.800 You've been insinuating for days that there are weapons that were brought to Ottawa or that are in Ottawa as were found in Coutts in Alberta.

00:22:53.580 Could you confirm here, rather than insinuating, as you have been doing for days, what are the plans to ensure that they won't be used at the time of an intervention, as we're seeing being prepared?

00:23:06.980 And how did those weapons stay in Ottawa for three weeks, in downtown Ottawa for three weeks?

00:23:12.120 Answer.

00:23:12.480 Just an important clarification.

00:23:18.780 I'm not saying that there is intelligence saying that there are weapons in Ottawa.

00:23:23.400 Inaudible.

00:23:24.180 Question inaudible to the interpreter.

00:23:26.160 Answer.

00:23:26.760 No, it's an important point.

00:23:28.560 As I said yesterday, and even my colleagues did, that there are public reports showing that there are indications

00:23:36.520 that there are extremist ideological positions, and there's that link between the blockades.

00:23:48.380 There are similarities of what is being targeted.

00:23:54.260 For example, border crossings, legislators, and many other critical infrastructure elements.

00:24:08.420 That's what the blockades are focusing on.

00:24:10.700 There are similarities between the tactics that are being used by those groups at the border, and here in Ottawa, before Parliament.

00:24:26.180 And there's a similarity in the rhetoric emerging in social media and elsewhere.

00:24:34.000 Those are similarities that everybody is sharing concerns about.

00:24:41.800 Question.

00:24:42.700 So here you're telling me that there are no weapons in Ottawa.

00:24:47.400 That wasn't my follow-up question.

00:24:49.780 My follow-up question was about the children who are in downtown Ottawa.

00:24:54.320 You keep asking for them to leave.

00:24:57.300 They're not leaving.

00:24:58.360 Some people, protesters, are calling for more children to come so that the police will be impeded in their action.

00:25:10.340 Clearly, your calls for them to go home are not being heeded.

00:25:15.400 So what is being looked at?

00:25:18.800 Answer.

00:25:20.200 First, regarding the firearms and all the risks, that's a question for the police services.

00:25:25.720 There's a difference between our different functions here at government.

00:25:30.920 It is to create legislation, to enact it, to give police services tools.

00:25:40.720 And it's their responsibility to use those tools to respond to those questions on the ground regarding risks related to firearms and so on.

00:25:51.840 Now, as for children, that's a very serious question.

00:26:01.460 We all share the concerns that the children must leave now.

00:26:09.720 And that's why everybody, the police services at the government side are saying clearly, very clearly, we're emphasizing that they need to go.

00:26:25.440 The kids need to go now.

00:26:26.500 Thank you very much.

00:26:32.800 Yeah, you're done.

00:26:33.640 OK.

00:26:35.320 Unfortunately, we really have to cut it off.

00:26:37.600 They have to get going.

00:26:38.740 I think we're joining Minister Blair for the debate, but we'll be happy to take more questions later.

00:26:44.640 Thank you very much.

00:26:45.120 Thank you very much.

00:26:45.780 David, we're on.

00:26:52.240 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

00:26:54.860 It is the Rebel News live stream that you have tuned into.

00:26:58.800 Pardon me.

00:26:59.240 I was ordering my lunch.

00:27:01.140 An army travels on its stomach after all.

00:27:04.000 And I am David Menzies, as you know.

00:27:05.880 And my co-host, as always, is, well, she's the she-devil with a sword.

00:27:11.720 She is the Khaleesi of northern Alberta.

00:27:14.580 She is Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:27:18.360 Sheila, good afternoon.

00:27:20.380 No, it's still morning by three minutes.

00:27:22.120 Good morning to you, my dear friend.

00:27:24.800 What do you make of what you just heard there for the last several minutes?

00:27:29.040 You know, there are a lot of contenders.

00:27:30.800 By the way, it's good morning here for two hours and three minutes, David.

00:27:36.000 But I know when we're about to eat lunch, you guys are still getting out of bed.

00:27:42.080 That's the problem with these time zones.

00:27:43.620 But I digress.

00:27:45.900 Sure, mister.

00:27:46.960 I'm late to every morning meeting.

00:27:48.380 Anyway, there are a lot of new contenders for dumbest MP in Justin Trudeau's cabinet.

00:27:56.580 These people are giving Seamus O'Regan a run for their money.

00:27:59.360 You know what I mean?

00:28:00.980 That's harsh, even for you, Sheila.

00:28:03.100 Well, Mendocino is an absolute idiot.

00:28:09.520 Yesterday, he was saying the exact same thing that he's saying today.

00:28:12.880 And when pressed on it, then he walks it back.

00:28:15.520 So you heard the journalist there say, luckily, I was not on for much of Chrystia Freeland's nonsense because she's impossible to watch.

00:28:24.820 I cannot deal with her constant twitching.

00:28:27.900 It's like she's being subject to electric shocks all the time.

00:28:31.640 She's just always wiggling.

00:28:33.300 But Mendocino said the exact same thing 20 hours ago.

00:28:36.960 I went and looked because Andrew Lawton clipped it.

00:28:39.020 So Mendocino always makes these allegations about guns in the crowd at Ottawa and how it's dangerous and there's violent rhetoric.

00:28:48.620 But then when somebody pushes him on it and says, well, how do you know that?

00:28:51.940 He says, well, I just know it.

00:28:55.400 I just know it.

00:28:56.460 I don't have any police intelligence.

00:28:58.100 No, the cops have never said anything like that.

00:29:00.340 But I just know these people have guns.

00:29:02.860 Like completely unaware of his own bigotry against truck drivers, right?

00:29:06.200 That they're violent gun-toting psychopaths.

00:29:08.860 By the way, it's not illegal to have a gun in the trunk of your car.

00:29:11.780 It's not.

00:29:12.160 And Sheila, this is despicable by Marco because if there are terrorists on Parliament Hill, if there are insurgents upon Parliament Hill ready to do a Canadian version of January the 6th, name them.

00:29:29.900 Give us the names of the individuals.

00:29:32.320 Give us the names of the terrorist organizations.

00:29:34.920 As Clara Peller, the spokeswoman for Wendy's, used to say in the 80s, where's the beef?

00:29:41.660 But it's a nothing burger.

00:29:43.220 That's what's being served up here.

00:29:45.300 He has a hunch that there are bad guys afoot and that's good enough.

00:29:50.940 But they implied a few days ago, Sheila, they had police intelligence suggesting that.

00:29:58.160 Well, share that intelligence with us, won't you?

00:30:01.480 He cannot back up anything he's saying with fact.

00:30:06.360 And to the media's credit, and they've been terrible on this issue from the very beginning, but to their credit, they keep saying, well, how do you know this?

00:30:15.560 And he keeps saying, well, I just, I just, I feel it.

00:30:19.620 I feel it in my bones.

00:30:20.720 Well, that's not a good enough reason to be making allegations that these people are violent.

00:30:26.720 Yeah, this is what Andrew Lawton said.

00:30:28.380 Watch this video from start to finish.

00:30:29.840 Public Safety Minister Marco Mendocino, the guy in charge now of the gun grab, definitely says people charged with firearms offenses in coots are connected to far right groups in Ottawa.

00:30:41.980 But when challenged, completely walks back the claim to an unrecognizable point.

00:30:46.400 Let's just roll this because he said much of the same things today.

00:30:50.080 So he gets embarrassed yesterday, but like a good liberal, learns nothing.

00:30:55.040 This should be a life lesson, but he learned nothing and he pulled it again today.

00:30:59.620 So let's listen.

00:31:00.780 Earlier this week at the Coutts border crossing and seized a significant number of lethal firearms, a large supply of ammunition, body armor.

00:31:09.420 However, four men were charged by the RCMP with a conspiracy to murder officers.

00:31:16.940 As the Deputy Commissioner of the RCMP noted, and I quote, Monday's weapons seizure and subsequent arrests speak to the serious criminal activities taking place during the protest and illegal blockades.

00:31:30.500 The dangerous criminal activity occurring away from the TV cameras and social media posts was real and organized.

00:31:37.820 It could have been deadly for citizens, protesters, and officers.

00:31:44.100 We need to be clear-eyed about the seriousness of these incidents.

00:31:48.060 Indeed, several of the individuals at Coutts have strong ties to a far-right extreme organization with leaders who are in Ottawa.

00:31:56.880 We're talking about a group that is organized, agile, knowledgeable, and driven by an extremist ideology where might makes right.

00:32:10.360 And this is completely contrary to our democratic values.

00:32:15.000 Minister Manichino, you mentioned that there's these ties with a far-right group between what happened in Coutts and what's going on in Ottawa.

00:32:21.620 Can you explain exactly what group you're talking about?

00:32:24.980 How big is it?

00:32:25.880 How much of a threat is this to people's safety?

00:32:28.280 We saw a bunch of guns and body armor in Coutts.

00:32:31.580 Are you concerned there's similar items in Ottawa?

00:32:34.780 Just please expand on what you said, because that was quite striking.

00:32:36.860 Well, I think what we're beginning to see emerge now are the hallmarks of a sophisticated and capable organization of a small number of individuals,

00:32:48.560 but with a steel resolve driven by an extreme ideology that would seek to overthrow the existing government and create some kind of parallel structure,

00:33:00.900 whereby they get to dictate the rules based on untrammeled freedoms.

00:33:05.200 And it may sound far out there in left field, but looking back over the course of the last number of weeks,

00:33:15.720 and more importantly, seeing the developments of the arrests and seizures that have been made this past week,

00:33:23.540 there's a real danger in trivializing and diminishing exactly what's going on here.

00:33:30.160 And we have good reason to be concerned about that, as Canadians do.

00:33:36.840 I mean, you talked about the individuals of Coutts have strong ties to a far-right extreme organization with leaders who are in Ottawa.

00:33:44.020 Are you talking about the leaders of the convoy who sometimes hold press conferences,

00:33:48.220 who we've seen on social media talking about fundraising?

00:33:52.060 Who exactly are you talking about?

00:33:53.280 Does the group have a name?

00:33:54.280 What is this far-right organization with ties between Coutts and the leaders in Ottawa?

00:33:58.240 Alex, those are very good questions for law enforcement and for police.

00:34:03.440 All I can tell you is that what we're seeing is a very similar pattern of conduct

00:34:08.140 and the hallmarks of the ideology and the motivations of people who are operating in different parts of the country,

00:34:17.640 who are trying to interrupt our borders, who are interrupting daily life here in our communities.

00:34:25.900 They use similar rhetoric.

00:34:27.480 They use similar rallying calls.

00:34:29.780 One only has to turn to social media.

00:34:31.640 But in terms of the details, which I think you are quite right to ask,

00:34:36.580 those are questions which are best put to our law enforcement.

00:34:39.980 Can you please clarify yes or no?

00:34:44.580 Have you seen clear or been given or told clear evidence of a direct tie between the people who had the guns

00:34:52.460 and the motives and plans to kill officers in Alberta

00:34:56.840 and people who are in the demonstrations and blockades in Ottawa?

00:35:01.640 The charges that have been laid in Coutts will lay out exactly what it is that the police believe

00:35:12.380 and hope to prove in a court of law.

00:35:14.880 The point that is being made is that the rhetoric that supported the movement in Coutts

00:35:20.940 is very similar and strikingly similar to the kind of rhetoric that we're seeing not only in Ottawa

00:35:26.860 but right across the country.

00:35:28.160 I want to follow up on Marika Walsh's question.

00:35:30.740 I think that we need to be certain that it sounds like you are making the connection

00:35:37.340 between the rhetoric of suspects who are accused of attempted and conspiring to attempt murder

00:35:44.240 in Coutts, Alberta and the organizers here.

00:35:47.840 So is that what your conclusion is or is that something that's backed up by evidence

00:35:53.300 of an ongoing law enforcement investigation?

00:35:55.740 No, I think you have it right.

00:35:57.460 I mean, I think the pattern that we're seeing here is in the rhetoric that is being used

00:36:01.020 not only in Coutts, not only in Ottawa, but right across the country.

00:36:05.060 And, you know, one...

00:36:06.760 He's even starting to laugh.

00:36:08.240 ...that very plainly in the similar messages that are being shared by those who are participating

00:36:14.340 actively in the blockades.

00:36:17.380 And so that unified and focused message is one of concern and I think does shed light

00:36:24.420 on the ideological motivations of those who are prepared to move beyond just, you know,

00:36:30.940 demonstrations and crossing into a different conduct which would be illegal.

00:36:35.580 You know, Sheila, forgive me, I'm experiencing...

00:36:40.160 I'm dumber for listening to that.

00:36:42.400 Oh, it's unbelievable, but more so, I'm experiencing a profound feeling of deja vu right now.

00:36:49.420 And we go back to last March.

00:36:50.800 Do you remember FBI Director Christopher Wray who said that the, quote, top threat, end quote,

00:36:57.460 to American lives in the U.S. right now is white supremacists.

00:37:05.080 That was echoed by President Biden the day later.

00:37:10.640 And, yeah, because, you know, Sheila, the aircraft used on 9-11, they were jam-packed with white supremacists.

00:37:18.740 But it was the same thing, Sheila.

00:37:20.460 Where's the evidence?

00:37:22.340 No evidence.

00:37:23.140 And this is coming from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, a creature that allegedly acts on the rules of evidence.

00:37:32.320 Zero evidence.

00:37:33.540 Just, oh, well, we have a feeling just like Marco.

00:37:36.660 So I think, if anything, FBI was ahead of the curve because we see the same crap being uttered by Marco.

00:37:44.040 As I said earlier, show us the names, show us the organizations.

00:37:49.140 They don't have anything because nothing exists.

00:37:51.940 And I'm getting sick, whether it's Marco or Freeland or Lamedi or Trudeau, talking about the funding of terrorists.

00:37:59.460 That's really rich when it's coming from the Trudeau liberals that funded our own homegrown Al-Qaeda terrorist, Omar Khadr, to the tune of eight figures.

00:38:10.720 10.5 million bucks.

00:38:12.440 They cut this son of a you-know-what in 2016.

00:38:17.500 A man who admits to killing and partially blinding two U.S. servicemen, our allies, and for hurt feelings for having a rough go at Gitmo Bay, allegedly.

00:38:29.300 He gets that money.

00:38:30.740 These are the terrorist funders, our federal government under Justin Trudeau.

00:38:34.760 Yeah, it's really interesting, too, when you look back at Justin Trudeau's reasoning for paying out the money to Omar Khadr.

00:38:42.940 First of all, it never went to trial because all of a sudden he was a fiscal conservative.

00:38:47.600 Oh, it'll cost way more money if we go to trial.

00:38:50.340 So let's just pay him $10.5 million for what amounts to some sleepless nights in Gitmo.

00:38:55.880 I mean, I think anybody would have sleepless nights in Gitmo.

00:38:59.760 But then Justin Trudeau says, you know, he's a Canadian and a Canadian's rights were violated.

00:39:07.920 And then right now he's violating the rights of how many of us are there now?

00:39:12.420 37, 38 million of us, maybe 39 million of us.

00:39:16.140 That's perfectly fine.

00:39:17.460 But as long as we protected sweet little Omar Khadr from a few rough nights in Gitmo, it's no big deal.

00:39:24.320 And then I went through some of the other times that Justin Trudeau exhibited sympathy for the devil and the liberals, too.

00:39:30.900 So after the Boston bombing, do you remember that?

00:39:34.400 Oh, yeah.

00:39:34.900 Justin Trudeau did that sit down with Peter Mansbridge.

00:39:37.820 And Peter Mansbridge, again, to his credit, was like, what kind of craziness am I listening to?

00:39:43.380 You can see it in the interview.

00:39:44.760 And he's, you know, a pretty liberal guy.

00:39:47.520 But Justin Trudeau, when he's talking about the Boston bombers, he says, clearly this is somebody who's been excluded.

00:39:52.960 And instead of, you know, doing things that grow the exclusion that makes these people want to blow up a marathon, that was who Justin Trudeau was sympathizing with.

00:40:06.140 But even then he said, and I thought, isn't that weird how now he can extend that sort of unity movement to his political enemies?

00:40:14.520 He says, you know, we shouldn't be driving this division.

00:40:19.560 We have to understand why people do these sorts of things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:40:24.220 Fast forward nine years and all of a sudden he's criminalizing the lady who baked cookies for the truckers as they left Edmonton,

00:40:34.580 because that would be providing material supports to terrorism, which is akin to being an ISIS bride.

00:40:40.100 Yeah, this is the thing.

00:40:41.820 Remember he said that?

00:40:43.480 This is someone who's been excluded.

00:40:46.140 And it's like now he's the guy who's driving division and saying these people, these anti-vaxxers and these people are not anti-vaxxers, by the way.

00:40:55.100 They just believe that maybe this is a choice between them and their government, not them, or them and their doctor, not them and their government and their employer.

00:41:02.880 He's saying there's no space for them in Canadian society, that they hold unacceptable fringe views.

00:41:08.820 But the terrorists, he could empathize with them, actual terrorists.

00:41:12.680 Poor Peter Mansbridge, that look on his face.

00:41:15.180 He's probably saying, I wish I was still back at the Gimli Airport announcing a Rod Wilson departures.

00:41:21.060 But, you know, you're right.

00:41:22.420 But, you know, let's take Trudeau.

00:41:23.760 If for some reason he got a direct interview to the Boston bomber and found out that he was excluded from society, so what?

00:41:31.140 That doesn't give you the right to carry out terrorism and kill people and maim people at a marathon.

00:41:37.960 And also, Sheila, here's the double standard.

00:41:40.880 If that Boston bomber had been wearing, oh, I don't know, a MAGA cap, does Trudeau go out and say, oh, he's misunderstood.

00:41:49.140 He was excluded from society.

00:41:51.420 Give the kid a break.

00:41:53.060 Does he?

00:41:54.700 No.

00:41:55.220 But now let's fast forward because let's – oh, yeah, this is a good tweet, too.

00:41:59.680 This is from Justin Trudeau.

00:42:02.640 I think this is – in – what year was this?

00:42:06.080 2013?

00:42:07.100 2012?

00:42:09.940 Yeah, 2012.

00:42:11.040 The ongoing blockades in occupation are presenting serious challenges to law enforcement's ability to effectively enforce the law.

00:42:20.140 Because of that, the federal government is invoking the Emergencies Act.

00:42:23.160 But then, back in – I think it was 2012, he said when the government starts trying to cancel dissent and avoid dissent is when it's rapidly losing its moral authority to govern.

00:42:35.320 And he was quoting Harper back in 2005.

00:42:40.380 Wow.

00:42:40.560 But he's that guy now.

00:42:42.400 But even if we look at Justin Trudeau's treatment of actual terrorists – so he enriched one with $10.5 million, filled up his bank account with your money while actually stealing yours out of your bank account right now, by the way.

00:42:55.820 Let's just even – and also his empathy for the Boston Bombers, that maybe they were excluded and we need to be more united as a society, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:43:04.940 Let's even say that society and governing has hardened Justin Trudeau.

00:43:09.860 And he's changed his mind about certain things.

00:43:12.000 Just a few short months ago, remember the gender minister, Miriam Monsef, also was in the running for being one of the dumbest cabinet ministers ever in the House of Commons.

00:43:23.800 But no, she was unelected, thank goodness.

00:43:26.740 She called the Taliban her brothers.

00:43:29.900 Yeah.

00:43:30.520 So the Taliban are the brothers of the Liberal Party.

00:43:35.980 But people who just say, you know what, I kind of want to make my own medical decisions without my employer and my government being involved, those people have unacceptable fringe views.

00:43:45.480 Well, you know, Sheila, wasn't it fantastic that Miriam Monsef lost her seat in the last federal election?

00:43:54.280 That was about the only good news that came out of the last federal election.

00:43:58.440 So now she has all the time in the world to hang with her brothers.

00:44:04.260 But, you know, somebody better give her some fashion advice.

00:44:07.660 I hear those kind of brothers, they don't like it when a woman, I don't know, shows her face in public.

00:44:13.400 Like, that's kind of like putting yourself out there like an open can of tuna fish for the cat.

00:44:21.080 So anyway, so I wonder what she's up to now that she's got an incredible free amount of time to spend with terrorist brothers.

00:44:30.560 That was an outrageous statement.

00:44:32.140 And the idea that, oh, no, just a turn of phrase, you know, it's like how how the young ones these days say, hey, bro, you know, that's what it's like.

00:44:40.760 Yeah. Bro with a suicide vest attached to them.

00:44:44.620 The hypocrisy is unbelievable, Sheila.

00:44:48.020 And I'm just wondering, you know, where it goes from here.

00:44:54.120 One of the things that we saw come in is that police, Ottawa police are informing the protesters that you risk up to five thousand dollars fine and up to five years imprisonment.

00:45:10.700 If you bring a minor into the unlawful protest zone, I think it's not even bringing the kids to the protest zone.

00:45:20.920 I think it's within half a kilometer purposefully of the protest zone.

00:45:27.080 Yeah. Let's define the zone.

00:45:28.980 Like where where's the barrier?

00:45:31.220 Right. And, you know, and it's funny when Marco talks about law enforcement in Coots, Alberta.

00:45:36.700 As far as I can see, the only crime committed there, Sheila, was by law enforcement.

00:45:42.560 Since when does enacting the law mean breaking the law?

00:45:45.860 And I talk about our fantastic work from our colleague, Sid Fazzard, who showed that three excavators were vandalized to the tune of over one hundred thousand dollars.

00:45:58.200 Wires cut, filters removed.

00:45:59.940 These are privately owned excavators on private property, not even near not even where the border demonstration is happening.

00:46:09.040 And RCMP admitted that they went in like a bunch of Antifa or black bloc vandals and disabled these this equipment.

00:46:21.580 So really, who are the real criminals?

00:46:24.300 Who are the real terrorists out there right now, Sheila?

00:46:26.820 Well, with regard to the Coots arrests, it's my understanding that not a single one of them are from the community.

00:46:34.680 Some of them came in just days before the arrest.

00:46:38.640 And as a tip of the hat to just how peaceful the blockaders were down there, as soon as there were arrests made that were unrelated to the people participating in the blockade, they came in as interlopers.

00:46:52.080 Let's be clear. Those guys that were charged with gun offenses and conspiracy to murder RCMP officers.

00:47:00.060 They came in after they were not participating in the blockade and the blockaders immediately left because they said we are not associated with that.

00:47:10.060 We are not violent. This has been peaceful from the very beginning.

00:47:12.980 We this has spoiled what we are trying to do here and we are leaving.

00:47:19.480 And you can see those images where they were hugging and shaking hands with the cops.

00:47:25.900 So the blockaders and the protesters and the cops were hugging and shaking hands with each other because that was the true spirit of what was happening at Coots.

00:47:34.820 And it was spoiled by outside interlopers look who came in looking for trouble.

00:47:41.260 You know, you're so right, Sheila.

00:47:43.040 And I wonder how many of those images of RCMP officers and everyday citizens hugging each other.

00:47:49.660 I wonder how many of those images were captured and put on the newspapers here in our great dominion.

00:47:56.480 And if they were, maybe they were at, you know, on page C19 after the classifieds or something like that, because those are fantastic images.

00:48:05.140 But you really have to look for them when it comes to media outlets to get them on.

00:48:10.600 And you're right about the interlopers.

00:48:11.960 You know, it reminds me of Grace Life Church when that was walled off.

00:48:17.660 Right, Sheila?

00:48:18.100 And the church members, the people in the community, they respected the fact that this egregious thing was happening by law enforcement sealing off the church behind, you know, like a concentration camp type fence.

00:48:37.820 And then it was interlopers, correct me if I'm wrong, you were on the ground, Sheila, that decided to yank those fences down.

00:48:46.520 And I believe it was the people in the community that helped erect them again.

00:48:53.100 So, again, you really need a program to find out who's who in the zoo when it comes to these demonstrations.

00:49:03.360 And one of the big problems, Sheila, as you know, is when it comes to these blockades, when it comes to these trucker convoys, so many people illicitly declare themselves as the spokesman or spokeswoman.

00:49:17.500 And it's really difficult.

00:49:20.500 And some of these people, I won't mention his name, rhymes with Burger King, but I digress, you know, are what I think just liars and unhinged and are all about making a name for themselves.

00:49:35.560 Yeah, there's a lot of people who are riding the coattails of other people's hard work to make a name for themselves.

00:49:42.500 And they're just liars, low liability protesters because their bad legal advice will ruin other people's lives.

00:49:49.800 But they don't actually have, as my mom used to say, a pot to piss in.

00:49:53.560 So it doesn't matter if their bad legal advice ruins their lives because they have nothing left to lose.

00:49:59.460 There are a lot of those people in the middle of this trying to make this about themselves when this movement of truckers has been completely grassroots.

00:50:10.680 It's just been a groundswell from the bottom up.

00:50:13.720 I've heard that saying, too, of people from a certain generation, a pot to piss in.

00:50:17.820 Has anyone ever pissed in a pot?

00:50:20.020 Like, why would you do that?

00:50:21.320 Also, the other thing I've always wondered, you see someone grumpy and somebody says, oh, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

00:50:28.580 Has that ever happened in the history of mankind?

00:50:31.420 Has anyone ever urinated in a cereal?

00:50:34.800 Like, why would you do that?

00:50:36.600 I just think of the logistics involved.

00:50:38.800 But I digress.

00:50:40.440 Yeah, I regret.

00:50:41.600 I regret using that turn of phrase instantly.

00:50:45.500 Now, Mr. Producer whispers in my ear.

00:50:48.840 Actually, we're 20 minutes into the show and actually a little bit longer because we came on early and we've still never explained to everybody what we're doing here.

00:50:56.420 So, for those of you who get annoyed when I go through this little spiel, go get a coffee and be back here in about 90 seconds.

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00:53:14.240 So, I think that's it.

00:53:15.640 The people who get angry with me for talking about that every single time, every single time that I'm on air, they should be back now.

00:53:23.520 Mr. Producer, whispers in my ear that we should talk about, as I said in the morning meeting, the treatment of the trucker convoy in Ottawa is turning into a little bit of a country song.

00:53:35.080 They've taken your bank account.

00:53:36.500 They've taken your truck, your guns, your wife, now your kids.

00:53:41.560 And later on, they'll take your dog, too.

00:53:43.940 We'll get to that in a second.

00:53:45.100 So, Children's Aid Society urges Ottawa convoy protesters to make arrangements for kids' care.

00:53:52.860 Wow.

00:53:53.460 They're going to take the kids from the truckers now.

00:53:57.140 I've never seen them do this at a lefty protest when kids are, like, sleeping in public parks with dangerous dogs around and drug use.

00:54:03.920 I've never seen them move in to take kids out of the care of a lefty protest.

00:54:09.000 But also, this speaks to a certain elitism that blue-collar, working-class people, we just don't know how to take care of our kids as well as rich people do.

00:54:20.020 So, we need the state to step in and make decisions for us, much like what they're doing with our bodies and the vaccines.

00:54:25.680 Yeah.

00:54:26.280 And, Sheila, not to belabor the point, but I just want to jump back to Omar Khadr.

00:54:30.800 Remember, the narrative in the left-wing media was child soldier, child soldier.

00:54:35.480 Child soldier.

00:54:35.900 Even when he was an adult, they were still showing photographs of him as a 15-year-old.

00:54:41.440 Where was the Children's Aid Society in removing the child soldier?

00:54:46.780 Because, obviously, his odious parents, if you believe the narrative, they're the ones that were pulling his strings.

00:54:53.360 But they weren't interested in removing Omar Khadr, I guess, because, oh, I don't know, cultural or religious sensitivities.

00:55:01.720 I mean, you know, educate me.

00:55:03.780 Explain it to me.

00:55:04.920 I am a bear of very little brain when it comes to whose kids get taken away and whose are allowed to, oh, I don't know, go overseas and kill people.

00:55:14.760 Well, it falls down on politics, right?

00:55:17.940 So if you believe that you're in charge of your kids, that you should take care of your kids, and it's none of the state's business what you teach your kids, as long as you're teaching them to be productive, well-adjusted human beings going forward, you're a bad guy.

00:55:30.820 But if you believe that the state is a co-parent with you and can infect your child with whatever sort of gender theory or race theory or whatever and teach them to hate themselves and hate the traditional family and the values that make this country great, that's fine.

00:55:49.060 It doesn't matter what you do to your kid because your politics are fine.

00:55:52.860 And I think that's what this is about.

00:55:54.220 It's politics and it's class struggle.

00:55:56.440 That's what's happening here.

00:55:57.460 And Sheila, you're so right.

00:55:59.120 I mean, look at the difference of this protest in Canada now versus two years ago when we had blockades all over Canada, billions with a B, billions and billions of dollars.

00:56:12.360 Was there any vilification or demonization of those demonstrators by the government or the media?

00:56:18.340 No.

00:56:18.840 Was there any like ticking timeline?

00:56:21.920 Was there any consideration of invoking the Emergencies Act?

00:56:26.100 No.

00:56:26.480 Eventually, weeks and weeks and weeks later, it was taken down.

00:56:32.320 But as soon as these trucks rolled into Ottawa, it was almost as though, okay, you had your little weekend of letting off steam.

00:56:40.320 Can you exit stage right right now or else?

00:56:44.500 I mean, that is an appalling double standard.

00:56:47.280 I guess it comes down to race-based demonstrations.

00:56:51.380 What can I say?

00:56:52.020 Even though the people involved with the trucker convoy, contrary to all this white supremacist crap you hear, are of all races, all faiths.

00:57:03.220 So that doesn't even stick.

00:57:05.740 Sheila, I can't get over the double standard.

00:57:09.840 That we are enduring on, I guess, an hourly basis right now.

00:57:18.120 Yeah.

00:57:18.400 And I don't even think it's race-based.

00:57:20.100 I think it is just, do you fall down along Liberal Party politics?

00:57:25.560 Well, yeah.

00:57:25.980 There are identity politics at play, for sure.

00:57:28.680 Yeah.

00:57:28.800 You know, so maybe that's a better way of stating it.

00:57:30.600 If yes, okay, you're fine.

00:57:31.820 Yeah.

00:57:32.000 You know, for example, Christian parents are not allowed in this country to take their child, who may or may not be struggling with gender identity, to talk to the local priest.

00:57:44.360 That's illegal now.

00:57:45.800 Yeah.

00:57:45.940 Now that is conversion therapy.

00:57:48.340 So you cannot, as a Christian parent, say, okay, you're telling me you're having these problems, let's go to a trained counsellor, by the way, and talk to him in a way that is in line with our family's values.

00:58:04.080 Nothing forced.

00:58:05.320 This is just parents looking for spiritual and psychological guidance.

00:58:10.420 That's illegal in this country now.

00:58:13.540 And that was a unanimous vote in the House of Commons?

00:58:16.300 Not just unanimous, the Conservatives were giving each other high fives, too.

00:58:20.900 They were dancing.

00:58:22.480 Yeah, as though they're just, like, dog catchers, but for gay people, leaving the church and just snatching them up and then taking them off to a re-education camp.

00:58:34.240 That's the concept, that the Liberals ran with this ban on conversion therapy instead of, you know, the reality of what it is.

00:58:44.560 It was just bigotry from start to finish, by the way.

00:58:48.240 No, I agree with you, Sheila.

00:58:49.380 When it comes to conversion therapy, there is nuance here, but you can't even approach that.

00:58:54.760 Can't have that discussion.

00:58:55.900 It's a third rail all of a sudden.

00:58:57.620 You even raise that.

00:58:58.760 You're a homophobe, a transphobe.

00:59:00.560 Child abuser.

00:59:01.480 Yeah.

00:59:02.240 Yeah.

00:59:03.160 Child abuser.

00:59:03.980 And not one dissenting opinion, not one saying, well, what about this particular case?

00:59:11.060 Absolutely dreadful.

00:59:13.400 Now, we've gotten the kids in the convoy out of the way.

00:59:17.860 So if you take your kids to the convoy, you can go to jail for five years or take your kids near the convoy.

00:59:23.740 Sorry.

00:59:24.140 Doesn't even have to be in the convoy, near the convoy.

00:59:26.860 You can go to jail for five years and the Children's Aid Society is going to take your kids.

00:59:30.640 But they don't stop there.

00:59:33.720 They will also take your dog because apparently your dog can have the wrong politics, too.

00:59:39.880 And so they've said the Ottawa Humane Society has said that they will take your dog and they will bill you for taking your dog, even though your dog is perfectly well cared for.

00:59:51.760 Your dog is just the dog's owner has the wrong politics.

00:59:55.040 I think there's a tweet, actually, from the Ottawa Humane Society if you want to dig that up.

00:59:58.680 But it's on Ezra's Twitter feed, too, Mr. Producer.

01:00:02.740 So then they'll bill you after they abduct your dog from you, steal your dog.

01:00:07.680 And then after if you cannot pay to get your dog out of, I guess, Hawk, then you they will your dog will be considered relinquished, whatever that means.

01:00:22.080 No, but what exactly what do you think it means, Sheila?

01:00:25.140 Relinquished.

01:00:25.500 Does that mean they adopt it out to somebody else or does it mean it's time to put Fido down?

01:00:32.580 Yeah, I think they euthanize your dog.

01:00:35.140 You know what?

01:00:36.960 I'll tell you, the way people feel about their dogs.

01:00:41.540 And you know what?

01:00:42.160 There are some people out there in Canada, Sheila, their only companion, their only family member.

01:00:47.200 Truckers, long haul truckers.

01:00:48.580 Bring your dogs with them all the time.

01:00:50.700 I mean, if anyone went after my golden doodle, Sir Gregor.

01:00:54.840 Wow.

01:00:55.420 I don't know what I do.

01:00:57.600 My dog's under the desk.

01:00:58.720 I might be going to the canine prison myself, you know, that they are.

01:01:08.100 This smacks to me, Sheila, of desperation.

01:01:11.960 And it also smacks to me of vindictiveness.

01:01:17.200 You know, we are really going to hurt you where it really hurts.

01:01:21.580 And maybe you don't care about going to jail and having your insurance canceled and your rig seized and your bank account frozen.

01:01:31.780 But now we're going after your child.

01:01:35.020 We're going after your pet.

01:01:37.900 This is I don't even know if we've I've ever seen this in like a banana republic, Sheila.

01:01:43.020 This is demonic.

01:01:45.400 They don't take dogs away from homeless people, drug addled homeless people with bad dogs like the one that bit you.

01:01:53.500 That was in a public park for a long time.

01:01:56.620 And the only time they did something about it was when it attacked you.

01:02:01.140 They don't do this to homeless people.

01:02:03.500 They are taking perfectly well cared for dogs away from people based on politics.

01:02:09.480 This is demonic.

01:02:10.820 This is mobilizing every aspect of the state to crush dissent and to emotionally cripple people.

01:02:19.540 Do you know, you raise a great point.

01:02:21.160 I'm glad you brought it up.

01:02:22.080 What happened to me at Trinity Bellwoods Park when not only was this man homeless, but he was a drug addict who set his dogs upon me, one of them doing serious damage on my thigh.

01:02:36.300 And when I spoke to a really nice guy with animal control, this dog, Sheila, had already been deemed a dangerous dog.

01:02:45.260 And I thought, well, this man gave me an education because I thought, well, if you have a dangerous dog, that means it's put down.

01:02:52.380 Oh, no, no, no.

01:02:53.800 There are conditions in which you can own a dangerous dog.

01:02:56.740 For example, it has to be leashed at all times in public.

01:02:59.900 It has to be muzzled at all times in public.

01:03:02.620 It can't be anywhere near children or playgrounds.

01:03:05.580 This dog, no leash, no muzzle, within 30 meters of a playground where kids are playing at Trinity Bellwoods Park.

01:03:15.540 Because you know what, Sheila, if we give a homeless drug addict a dangerous dog, hey, what could go wrong, right?

01:03:22.900 And two reported bites and what I was told, more like this was another person, a social worker that's familiar with this individual.

01:03:31.580 She said it's more like 30 people have been bitten.

01:03:35.440 It's just that they didn't bother to report it.

01:03:37.880 But at least two, and then with me, three persons that said I was bitten by this dog.

01:03:44.460 That's okay.

01:03:45.800 You know, have your dog run around Trinity Bellwoods Park.

01:03:49.240 Have him go to the playground.

01:03:51.480 Hopefully he doesn't step on a hypodermic needle.

01:03:55.140 Another big problem in the playgrounds there.

01:03:57.600 That's all right.

01:03:58.560 But if you're a trucker with your companion, your little dog, you're going to have him taken away.

01:04:05.120 And you better have some do-re-mi to get him out of canine prison.

01:04:08.880 Otherwise, he's going to the, he's getting the long needle, if you know what I mean.

01:04:15.660 We should, Mr. Producer tells me that they're currently debating the motion to accept the Emergency Measures Act.

01:04:25.020 But before we move on, I just want to get to this ridiculous thing from Press Progress, because they never cease to amaze me how ridiculous they are.

01:04:32.860 And this is, this is new.

01:04:36.080 So they have this article.

01:04:39.720 This is outrageous to them.

01:04:40.980 Photos show young child with gas can strapped to their body next to Parliament Hill.

01:04:48.600 So the kid's just wearing a, an empty, obviously empty, because no little kid is going to wear a full gas can on their back.

01:04:55.680 Like, that's heavy.

01:04:56.480 If anybody ever tried to gas up the lawn tractor, it's heavy to lift it and then like pour it in.

01:05:02.260 Like, I'm, I'm strong, but that's heavy.

01:05:04.280 So this is empty.

01:05:05.260 This is just a kid wearing it because gas cans, empty gas cans have become a symbol of protest.

01:05:12.000 So this is, you know, like I see them at the protests in Edmonton.

01:05:15.100 People are banging jerry cans together to make noise or whatever, just to show like the, it's a symbol of resistance to the authoritarian actions of the police.

01:05:24.940 But this is in press progress and they say photos, which were obtained exclusively by press progress from a source who works in downtown Ottawa, show the child running back and forth on a mat while wearing a gas can as if it were a school backpack.

01:05:40.540 So like playing, is that, is that the thing that you're upset about?

01:05:44.120 Like playing, the kid was playing.

01:05:46.880 Photos show the child playing in the middle of Wellington Street on a stretch of road between Parliament Hill and the Supreme Court.

01:05:51.880 But this is all blocked off by trucks, so it's not like they're going to get hit.

01:05:55.480 They were playing lawn bowling for 10 to 15 minutes as their parents looked on.

01:06:00.840 So this kid is playing outside, having fun, doing like athletic little kid things while the parents looked on.

01:06:07.360 So the kid is playing outside.

01:06:09.660 Check.

01:06:10.020 Good thing.

01:06:10.680 I'm always like, get out of the house, go play outside.

01:06:13.080 And the parents were supervising.

01:06:15.360 Also, good thing.

01:06:16.860 But these people think this is a bad thing because the parents have the wrong politics.

01:06:21.620 Um, yeah, anyways, this is, then they go on to say like this little person, their parents deserve to be issued a $5,000 fine.

01:06:33.040 No, Sheila, you nailed it with wrong politics because here's what's really behind, I think, removing kids, in addition to causing the adults who are the parents of those kids, incredible emotional distress at having their children separated from them.

01:06:50.820 The other thing is this government doesn't want the next generation, the young people, to witness a peaceful protest on Parliament Hill.

01:07:00.440 Salt of the earth Canadians standing up to a prime minister who admires the basic dictatorship of China for getting things done.

01:07:08.600 Uh, they don't want to see that because with their philosophy, uh, Sheila, they want them to go through the school system.

01:07:17.440 They want them to be indoctrinated.

01:07:19.940 They want them to come out as little Marxists.

01:07:22.440 And, you know, when it comes to communism or whether it comes to marketing beer, as they say on Madison Avenue, get them young, get them forever.

01:07:32.480 I think that's what's behind this, um, you know, clamp down on the children.

01:07:39.420 Um, just as you were talking there, as my mind tends to do when you're talking, I wandered a little bit to, um, how I think the media and the liberals, but I repeat myself since they are the same homogenous group.

01:07:53.640 I think they are seriously miscalculating snatching the kids here because there are two ways that this is going to happen.

01:08:03.020 And they're both bad for the liberals and the media, optically speaking, you are going to see screaming, crying children as the state takes away their parents for the crime of having the wrong politics.

01:08:14.260 I will never forget the images of the kids crying and the wives crying as the farmers were taken away in handcuffs for selling their own wheat that turned the tide against the liberals.

01:08:28.740 Those images, these ordinary men who didn't do anything wrong and they're screaming, crying families.

01:08:35.800 I'll never forget it.

01:08:37.620 Yeah.

01:08:37.720 You're going to see this replicated on mass in Ottawa, either one of two ways, or the children are going to be taken away and the children are going to be screaming.

01:08:50.680 The mothers are going to be crying.

01:08:52.440 The dads are going to be raging near violent.

01:08:55.280 I don't know how my husband would be able to contain himself if somebody took away our children.

01:08:59.080 And that will also further turn the tide away from the government because everybody who is a parent can relate to that.

01:09:09.820 And you think about, I remember years and years and years ago, maybe 20 years ago, and the FBI were right to do this raid.

01:09:19.420 I think it was the FBI or Children's Aid Society on the FLDS, the Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints.

01:09:24.840 There was a raid on their compound because they were, as it turns out years later, engaging in child marriage and sex trafficking.

01:09:37.260 And the guy who's the head of the FLDS church is still in jail, thank God.

01:09:42.100 But there was a raid on one of their compounds.

01:09:44.860 I think it was Zion.

01:09:47.680 I forget what it is.

01:09:48.580 Waiting for Zion?

01:09:49.480 I think that's what the ranch was called.

01:09:50.800 Anyways, they had a big Mormon temple there.

01:09:52.900 FLDS temple, not a Mormon temple.

01:09:54.300 But the images of those children being taken away from their mothers, it was enough to turn the FBI and the Children's Aid Society away from that branch of FLDS because it was so catastrophic, even though there needed to be intervention there.

01:10:17.680 But those images of children being separated from their mothers, it was too much.

01:10:23.020 It was too much optically speaking.

01:10:25.100 Yeah, this.

01:10:26.120 Exactly.

01:10:27.180 These women watching their children being taken away on buses.

01:10:31.800 And there were things happening to those kids.

01:10:35.220 There was, you know, sex trafficking and abuse happening there.

01:10:39.300 But to see the children taken away on mass, it was enough to have law enforcement and the Children's Aid Society step away for nearly 20 years from what was happening there.

01:10:49.640 So if they start taking those kids, you're going to see a country harden against the liberals, where people who are against the truckers are saying this, what you're doing here, this is too far.

01:11:02.220 This is way too far.

01:11:03.300 You know, Sheila, you raise a very interesting point here.

01:11:06.240 Clearly, the government and law enforcement, they're ramping up for the end game in terms of shutting this demonstration down, clearly by invoking the Emergencies Act.

01:11:15.960 That's the end goal.

01:11:18.020 What do you think is the possibility that this might go sideways a la the Waco takedown back in the 90s?

01:11:28.380 Well, we're three weeks into this and they're completely peaceful, completely peaceful.

01:11:36.160 The supply of racism does not meet the demand.

01:11:38.980 The supply of violence does not meet the demand.

01:11:41.460 You know, they're the left is faking arsons now because they just can't get the truckers to react.

01:11:49.420 And I think that's what some of these threats about kids and dogs.

01:11:53.340 That's what it's about. Seizing their bank accounts, that's not enough to hurt them.

01:11:59.820 Seizing their property, that's not enough to hurt them.

01:12:02.680 But I think taking kids and animals, that's the government trying to incite a violent confrontation so that they can do what they think they need to do to clear the streets of Ottawa.

01:12:15.940 And as one reporter said to Justin Trudeau's father back in 1970 when the War Measures Act was invoked, how far are you willing to go?

01:12:25.120 Of course, Papa Pierre Trudeau said, just watch me.

01:12:28.300 And that's the question I have.

01:12:31.200 At some point, do we see the use of, I mean, I know it sounds preposterous, but do we see the use of tear gas, rubber bullets, water cannons?

01:12:41.640 You know, because clearly these people, as of right now, I was speaking to our wonderful correspondent, Alexa Lavoie, who, and with, of course, Lincoln Jay, they're both in the nation's capital covering that.

01:12:55.740 There's no mad rush out of Dodge, regardless of the rhetoric that the government is using.

01:13:02.520 So there you have it.

01:13:03.120 By the way, it's an important thing we should discuss, too, this freezing of bank accounts if you have given a donation to, you know, the likes of a GoFundMe.

01:13:15.240 And, of course, 93,000 Canadians had their names hacked.

01:13:19.860 And so there's a whole list of people whose privacy has been obliterated.

01:13:25.980 I was just speaking to a woman yesterday, Sheila, and she gave $25 to the other funding, what's it called?

01:13:37.320 Go Give...

01:13:38.660 Give, Send, Go.

01:13:39.580 Give, Send, Go.

01:13:40.300 Thank you so much.

01:13:41.660 And she is right now, as we're speaking, she's at her bank removing her savings, which is $40,000.

01:13:50.560 And she is, well, quite literally, she's going to put it under her mattress.

01:13:55.780 She feels it's safer there than in a bank.

01:13:58.880 Now, I would imagine the government is really going after the big fish, those who are, you know, funding this convoy, six, seven, maybe even eight figures.

01:14:08.680 Who knows?

01:14:09.140 But no, I wouldn't put it past them to have their CRA attack dogs go after Canadians that gave donations under $100.

01:14:22.900 And wow, look at that.

01:14:25.820 Scotiabank outages reported in the last 24 hours.

01:14:29.840 When it says outage...

01:14:30.900 RBC.

01:14:31.740 This RBC outage.

01:14:33.240 Yeah, that was inconvenient yesterday.

01:14:35.600 BMO.

01:14:36.480 She is a Scotiabank customer.

01:14:38.340 She's got some money in that one, TD.

01:14:41.380 That's going to be taken care of tomorrow.

01:14:44.140 Are we going to see a run on the bank, Sheila?

01:14:47.100 We are seeing a run on the banks.

01:14:48.580 And this is not them going after the big guys.

01:14:52.660 Lincoln ran into somebody who he had previously covered when he was in Winnipeg.

01:14:59.840 And he was at the convoy protest.

01:15:02.840 He's a gym owner.

01:15:04.160 And he is just a small fish in a big pond.

01:15:07.800 And they froze his bank account.

01:15:10.480 So they don't care how his mortgage gets paid, his kids get fed.

01:15:13.960 They don't care.

01:15:14.640 They just seize his bank account.

01:15:16.560 And you know something else?

01:15:17.440 I talked to our wonderful lawyer in Ottawa, David Amber, yesterday.

01:15:21.960 He's great.

01:15:22.460 Oh, he's wonderful.

01:15:24.420 And he made mention, you know how much the – because I was asking, is that a possibility that somebody could lose – have their bank account frozen because of a very minor donation?

01:15:39.620 And he said – he brought up a point.

01:15:43.040 You know that Justin Trudeau liberals despise.

01:15:46.800 It's visceral.

01:15:48.060 They just despise rebel news.

01:15:51.140 He said, I wouldn't put it past them to whoever has a identical surname.

01:15:57.340 So if there's a Menzies, a Gunn-Reed, a Levent, even though there's absolutely no connection, no relation, get them.

01:16:05.480 Go after them.

01:16:06.700 Yep.

01:16:07.340 Just because maybe that is a family member and we want to incur as much damage as possible.

01:16:15.100 I know, folks, you might think that's preposterous, a conspiracy theory.

01:16:18.960 But, Sheila, what's your take?

01:16:20.500 I wouldn't put it past them.

01:16:22.780 I'm getting emails to that effect.

01:16:25.060 I'm getting emails from people saying, CBC reached out to me.

01:16:29.600 Yes, I've seen it.

01:16:29.980 Toronto Star reached out to me.

01:16:32.620 But I didn't donate to the convoy.

01:16:34.820 This is someone with the same name as me.

01:16:37.800 But these hunter-killers are going after everybody.

01:16:41.020 By the way, I tweeted yesterday.

01:16:42.860 I wonder if CBC paid for the hacked data.

01:16:48.340 Not that it wasn't readily available, but I think they're just dumb enough to pay for it is all I'm saying.

01:16:54.800 You know what?

01:16:55.980 Personally, I don't think so.

01:16:57.500 I think it's even more nefarious, Sheila.

01:16:59.620 I wouldn't put it past CESIS to pay for that hack.

01:17:03.120 Certainly that hacker, he claims he's been hired by law enforcement in the past.

01:17:08.780 And you know how, I mean, hey, listen, if you're going after a pedophile ring, hack away.

01:17:14.980 But these are law-abiding, peaceful protesters.

01:17:18.640 And think of it.

01:17:19.640 Think of this hacker's rationale.

01:17:21.720 I'm doing this because they're breaking the law.

01:17:25.140 Well, he's breaking the law by violating their privacy.

01:17:29.240 I just think that even, like, I'm sure somebody shopped an Excel file or a PDF to CBC and they were like, how much do you want for it?

01:17:42.760 Even though it's just everywhere on Twitter because it's somebody else's money to waste, right?

01:17:48.280 Put it on the tab.

01:17:48.880 Yeah, just put it on, expense it to Rosie.

01:17:53.940 Let's, if the debate is still going on, let's cut to a little bit of that and see what's happening there.

01:18:05.960 Is that Dane Lloyd?

01:18:07.540 ...need emergency powers to enforce existing laws.

01:18:11.020 Thank you, Madam Speaker.

01:18:12.720 The Honorable Member for Regina Capel.

01:18:15.540 Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, and I'd like to thank my colleague for agreeing to share his time with me.

01:18:20.860 I think it's very important for Canadians to understand that this is in no way, that the government's reaction, the government's proposal to invoke the Emergency Measures Act is in no way connected to public safety, to restoring order, or to upholding the rule of law.

01:18:37.740 We know this because we know what they've done with previous protests and blockades.

01:18:43.720 When the Prime Minister agrees with the aims of protesters, he does nothing.

01:18:50.180 In fact, actually, it would be unfair to say he does nothing.

01:18:52.960 He does nothing to end the blockades.

01:18:55.180 He actually will send negotiators.

01:18:57.540 He'll actually send government delegations to meet with protesters and even propose settlements and compromises when he agrees with the political aims of those protesting.

01:19:08.720 We know this because in 2020, anti-energy protesters, anti-oil and gas worker protesters held up vital transportation links for weeks, Madam Speaker.

01:19:22.760 At the time, the Prime Minister had a much different tone.

01:19:26.580 Let's take a look at what he said when vital transportation links, when rail lines were blockaded, crippling the Canadian economy for weeks and weeks at a time.

01:19:36.940 He said, and I quote,

01:19:39.240 Therefore, we are creating a space for peaceful, honest dialogue with willing partners.

01:19:46.040 Compare that to the rhetoric and inflammatory language that he has used over the past several weeks here in 2022.

01:19:53.040 Make no mistake, Madam Speaker, the protests that are happening in Ottawa and that have taken place across the country are a direct result of the Prime Minister's actions and his rhetoric.

01:20:05.740 The demonization of people who are fighting to get their rights back.

01:20:10.460 After two years of government agencies telling people that they weren't allowed to have family members visit them inside their own home.

01:20:23.780 After two years of governments telling business owners that they had to keep their doors shut and their employees laid off.

01:20:33.140 After years of people not able to use the various support systems that they've had in their life, relying on friends and family.

01:20:41.100 Gyms closed.

01:20:42.760 Activities for children's canceled.

01:20:44.500 After two years of government agencies, just as there is hope on the horizon, as other jurisdictions around the world and even here in Canada were lifting restrictions and easing mandates, the Prime Minister added a new one.

01:20:58.620 He added a new restriction after two years of telling truck drivers that they were essential services, that they would be allowed to travel across the border to bring vital goods into our markets.

01:21:12.080 After two years of deeming them that essential service, just as there was hope and reasons to lift restrictions and mandates, the Prime Minister added a new one without any data to back it up, without any evidence to back it up.

01:21:29.660 Then when people started objecting to this, finally saying enough is enough, we want our freedoms back, Madam Speaker.

01:21:35.740 It's time for the government to retreat back to the normal boundaries of government interference in our lives.

01:21:42.880 When people started doing that, started to gather together to peacefully protest against government overreach, what did the Prime Minister do?

01:21:51.780 He called them names, tried to smear them with broad brushes.

01:21:55.900 He called them racists and misogynists.

01:21:59.180 He asked the question, the rhetorical question, Madam Speaker, about whether or not we should tolerate these people.

01:22:05.900 Madam Speaker, I'd like to ask the Prime Minister a question.

01:22:08.100 What does not tolerating these people look like?

01:22:11.440 Because what he's done over the past few weeks has just been shameful.

01:22:15.860 This Prime Minister has lowered the office in which he serves to unprecedented depths.

01:22:23.060 In my 17 years of being a member of Parliament, I've never seen a Prime Minister, for that matter, any other politician, so debase the office that they hold, hurling insults at people.

01:22:34.320 Referring to a Jewish member of this House as standing with people waving swastikas.

01:22:42.120 Just outrageous, Madam Speaker.

01:22:44.160 And I have to find, I have to tell my honourable colleagues in the Liberal benches who have often admonished their political opponents for in any way, you know, even sharing the same postal code as someone who may be holding an offensive flag or a placard with unacceptable language on it.

01:23:02.860 And when Conservatives denounce that, that's not good enough for members of the Liberal Party.

01:23:06.680 They say, you know, you're supposed to paint the entire group protesting with that broad brush.

01:23:12.920 But, Madam Speaker, they don't hold themselves to that same standard.

01:23:17.580 I see many honourable members across the way, some of whom I've served with.

01:23:21.180 I know them to be honourable people.

01:23:23.400 I don't assume that they are all racists just because their leader has performed racist acts by putting on blackface so often in his life that he can't remember how many times he's done it.

01:23:34.580 We don't paint every single Liberal member of Parliament with that brush.

01:23:38.540 They have no problem being photographed with the Prime Minister, despite his history of racist acts.

01:23:46.060 So, neither should members of Parliament hold or paint the entire group of people who are protesting for their freedoms back with that same broad brush.

01:23:58.520 The lengths at which this government, and indeed not just the government, but many of their friends in the corporate media, to paint every single person who's protesting, who's demanding an end to the restrictions and end to mandates with that broad brush, Madam Speaker.

01:24:15.040 You look at the lengths that they go to discredit and to dehumanise those people who are just fighting for their traditional civil liberties.

01:24:24.800 I ask you, Madam Speaker, if we kind of look at this in two different groups.

01:24:30.860 On the one hand, you've got people who are saying after two years of hardship, two years of sacrifice, two years of being forced to comply with unprecedented government intrusion in our lives.

01:24:42.380 Unprecedented.

01:24:43.100 You know, government's telling you where you can go, who you can have in your house.

01:24:46.760 That is a new level of government interference around life that we have not seen in recent Canadian history.

01:24:52.980 After two years of that, there's a group of people who are saying, I just don't believe I should be fired for making a health care decision.

01:25:00.900 Then on the other hand, you've got a group of people who are saying that anybody who holds that view is a racist, a misogynist, an insurrectionist, Madam Speaker.

01:25:11.580 You've got a group of people who are saying that government should have the ability to tell you who you can have in your house, whether or not your business is allowed to stay open.

01:25:19.660 Which group seems more unreasonable, Madam Speaker?

01:25:22.980 I would say after two years, those who are fighting against this government intrusion in their lives have a legitimate case to be made.

01:25:30.260 Whether or not we agree with them or not, we must respect their right to advocate for their views.

01:25:36.960 The Prime Minister has not provided any legitimate justification for bringing in the Emergency Measures Act.

01:25:44.680 He asks us to trust him.

01:25:46.800 He says, don't worry.

01:25:47.780 We're going to make sure everything's fine with the courts.

01:25:50.620 We're going to make sure everything's compliant with the Charter.

01:25:53.340 This is the same guy who fired his Attorney General because she wouldn't go along with his plans to interfere in a criminal court case, Madam Speaker.

01:26:02.980 So you will pardon.

01:26:04.520 You'll pardon the members of the Conservative Party if we're not going to take the Prime Minister's word that he's not going to abuse the power that he's granting himself.

01:26:12.320 You know, I think that's good.

01:26:16.740 He points to specific incidents.

01:26:18.700 Who is this guy?

01:26:19.800 Who is this guy?

01:26:21.740 This is Andrew Scheer.

01:26:23.880 Where was this guy three years ago?

01:26:25.980 Who is this guy?

01:26:27.060 Sheila, you stole my thunder.

01:26:28.420 If only Mr. Personality was like this in 2019 on the federal election campaign trail.

01:26:36.220 Yeah, he might have had far more success.

01:26:39.460 Suddenly, he's dropped the rules of Queensbury and he's turned into a street fighter.

01:26:46.120 That comment on blackface is absolutely fantastic.

01:26:51.980 That's what makes it so rich when Justin Trudeau calls anyone a racist.

01:26:56.920 As Mr. Scheer said, even the Prime Minister can't remember how many times he's donned blackface.

01:27:04.320 And so, again, he's got his fighting spirit back.

01:27:09.280 He's got his mojo back.

01:27:10.480 Too bad it comes three years too late, at least in terms of Mr. Scheer becoming Prime Minister.

01:27:15.380 But, yeah, like you said, Sheila, who is that guy in the blue suit?

01:27:21.980 Yeah, he's saying all the right things.

01:27:24.640 And he is sort of, I mean, it's serious business what Trudeau is doing to the country.

01:27:31.340 But it is so laughable that it is coming from Trudeau that you can see it in his face.

01:27:35.540 And this is so ridiculous.

01:27:37.960 He's obviously telling a joke because people are laughing.

01:27:40.440 So I'll have to go back and watch this later.

01:27:43.400 But I just suggested to our web team and our editors that we should clip this speech in full.

01:27:50.220 I just clip it and stick it up on our YouTube because I think this is incredible.

01:27:55.620 People should be watching this, again, three years too late.

01:27:58.820 But you know what?

01:28:00.180 I guess redemption comes in all forms.

01:28:02.660 Well, Sheila, that's a great idea from the House of Ideas, Sheila Gunn-Reed.

01:28:07.700 I'm full of good ideas.

01:28:10.500 I'm full of something.

01:28:11.720 I don't know.

01:28:12.160 Oh, David, we are rapidly running out of time.

01:28:17.000 We've got a few chats to get to.

01:28:18.240 But the one thing that I think we should talk about is Justin Trudeau and Andrew Scheer alluded to it there.

01:28:26.760 Yesterday, Andrew Scheer or sorry, Justin Trudeau accused a Jewish MP, Melissa Lantzman, of standing with Nazis.

01:28:37.520 She is the granddaughter of Holocaust survivors.

01:28:42.760 I just I can't even believe this.

01:28:45.240 And she could not point out because it is against parliamentary rules that instead of apologizing, Justin Trudeau just ran away as he tends to do.

01:28:54.840 Like, oh, the country is protesting me.

01:28:57.100 I'm going to the lake.

01:28:59.000 That's how he normally reacts.

01:29:01.080 So naturally, he did run out of the House of Commons.

01:29:03.460 She just can't say that because he can't point out if a member is not there, it's against the rules.

01:29:07.560 But maybe let's roll this.

01:29:10.320 Hopeful vision for public life isn't a naive dream.

01:29:13.680 It could be a powerful force for change.

01:29:15.660 If Canadians are to trust their government, their government needs to trust Canadians.

01:29:19.620 Those are the words of the prime minister in 2015.

01:29:23.140 These people very often misogynistic, racist, women haters, science deniers, the fringe.

01:29:29.640 Same prime minister, six years later, as he fans the flames of an unjustified national emergency.

01:29:36.740 So, Mr. Speaker, when did the prime minister lose his way?

01:29:40.540 When did it happen?

01:29:41.940 The right honourable prime minister.

01:29:45.520 Mr. Speaker, Conservative Party members can stand with people who wave swastikas.

01:29:52.140 They can stand with people who wave the confederate flag.

01:29:55.440 We will choose to stand with Canadians who deserve to be able to get to their jobs, who be able to get their lives back.

01:30:03.500 These illegal protests need to stop, and they will, Mr. Speaker.

01:30:08.580 Look at those idiot women behind him.

01:30:10.820 I just want to remind the honourable members, including the honourable right, honourable prime minister,

01:30:23.020 to use words that are not inflammatory in the House.

01:30:27.580 And that's for both sides.

01:30:31.180 The honourable member for Thornhill.

01:30:39.200 Oh, too bad we didn't see that.

01:30:44.260 But regardless, I think I'm contractually obliged not to talk about Ms. Lansbury.

01:30:49.220 I asked you specifically not to.

01:30:52.260 I will give commentary here.

01:30:53.780 I'm going to keep my mouth shut.

01:30:55.260 I know nothing.

01:30:56.340 I saw nothing.

01:30:58.020 Again, who is this lady?

01:30:59.660 You know what?

01:31:00.900 Who is this lady?

01:31:02.140 Again, redemption comes in all forms.

01:31:05.100 Melissa Lansman, new MP, daughter of Holocaust survivors, accused of standing with Nazis by the prime minister.

01:31:13.160 And you could tell she stood up and she was ready to fight.

01:31:15.900 She was, like, stretching her arms out and ready to fight.

01:31:18.360 And Justin Trudeau was like, ah, dang.

01:31:20.540 And he was asked to apologise, I think, not once, not twice, but thrice.

01:31:25.360 And then he left.

01:31:26.860 But the only way Justin Trudeau gets away with stuff this stupid is the idiots sitting behind him.

01:31:34.720 As he's accusing a conservative, a Jewish conservative, of standing with neo-Nazis.

01:31:41.700 Yeah, we'll go to this.

01:31:42.520 Sorry.

01:31:42.760 She was on Ingraham last night.

01:31:45.060 So let's watch this.

01:31:45.980 This is not a surprise to me.

01:31:47.800 You just said it.

01:31:48.900 This is his true colours.

01:31:49.980 I sit there and watch him divide and wedge and stigmatise Canadians every single day.

01:31:59.280 And today, the rest of Canada saw a G7 prime minister go after a Jewish member of parliament and then walk away and not apologise.

01:32:08.860 Do you think there is an anti-Semitic element to this or was it just a slip, a verbal slip?

01:32:16.000 Well, look, I think that words matter.

01:32:17.980 And if you looked at my inbox in my office and you saw what my staff was looking at, when you accuse somebody of standing with a swastika, you get an influx of people calling you a Nazi.

01:32:30.400 And that's not OK.

01:32:31.400 And he is driving that.

01:32:32.540 He's been driving division in this country throughout this, throughout the, since the protest started, since before the protest started, for his political gain.

01:32:43.180 And I think his leadership is in trouble, the country's in trouble, and he's lost control of the situation.

01:32:48.780 Now, by the way, Sheila, not to go off on a tangerine, but when they were showing those photographs of Justin Trudeau in blackface, which is disturbing enough, what is it about, did you notice the commonality?

01:33:00.920 He's always sticking his tongue out.

01:33:03.340 Does he think, and I think that's even almost worse than the blackface.

01:33:07.100 Does he think that black people are incapable of keeping their tongue in their mouth?

01:33:12.320 Why would he do that?

01:33:14.280 I mean, and I'm being serious.

01:33:15.960 I mean, it's perversely amusing on one hand, but is this how he thinks black people come across in general society?

01:33:25.200 They're walking around with their tongue sticking out like a dog?

01:33:28.100 He's just a gross, gross man, just guilty of all those things that he accuses other people of.

01:33:35.780 But as I was saying before we went to that clip, the only way he gets away with any of this stuff is the enablers within his own party.

01:33:44.960 Yeah.

01:33:45.360 He should be facing an open caucus revolt.

01:33:50.420 It's not going to happen.

01:33:51.520 Let me just cut in here.

01:33:53.140 Instead, he's got those ladies, Marcia Yen or whatever in that other one, sitting there going, yep, just nodding along as he accuses a Jewish MP of being a Nazi enabler.

01:34:06.340 Sheila, this is not going to happen despite the speculation and the wishes of so many.

01:34:11.840 And I'm going to tell you why.

01:34:13.360 It's because let's look at the history of Justin Trudeau.

01:34:17.220 And you've got to give credit where credit is due.

01:34:19.500 He took a third place party.

01:34:22.640 Remember, in 2015, the liberals aren't even the official opposition, for goodness sake.

01:34:27.520 He took them from third place to a majority government and then won two more elections.

01:34:33.940 Here's the deal.

01:34:34.720 All those backbencher liberal MPs, these nudniks, the thing is, they will remain eternally grateful for giving them an office.

01:34:46.500 And now, of course, qualifying for a pension, getting past, what is it, six years, I believe, right?

01:34:52.780 There is going to be no revolution in the Liberal Party of Canada.

01:34:58.300 He is still their rock star, their sun god, their king, because it's all based on their own personal gain.

01:35:07.500 I was a nobody, and I've become an MP three times elected into the House of Commons, and it's Justin Trudeau at the helm of this ship.

01:35:18.880 And that's the sad reality.

01:35:20.860 What do ethics and morals and even the law have to do with it?

01:35:26.280 It's power and money.

01:35:28.280 That's all they care about, power and money.

01:35:31.100 They don't care about charter rights.

01:35:32.500 They don't care about any of the things that they say they talk about.

01:35:34.820 They don't care about climate change, and neither do I, but at least I'm honest about it.

01:35:39.600 They just care about using climate change to control your life.

01:35:43.220 They don't care about free speech or human rights or any of those things, because when it comes down to it, they are the ones crushing human rights in Canada.

01:35:51.400 The Truckers Convoy is the most successful human rights movement we have seen in my lifetime.

01:35:59.060 And yet it is going to be crushed or it is attempted to be crushed under the boot of the state.

01:36:07.120 And this, if Putin were doing this, who wouldn't shut up about it?

01:36:11.580 Justin Trudeau, Joe Biden, that you couldn't hear silence from them.

01:36:16.840 Oh, okay, so Mr. Producer tells me in my ear, sorry, that this morning, and we had Alexa on the ground and Lincoln on the ground showing us that fences went up around the House of Commons today.

01:36:34.140 And they have just taken, the protesters have taken the fence down.

01:36:37.760 Now, this will obviously be painted as violent.

01:36:41.440 Oh, they're honking the horns.

01:36:42.320 Oh, no, it will be painted, Sheila, as an attempted insurrection.

01:36:46.200 This is an insurrection.

01:36:48.040 Yeah.

01:36:48.520 Yeah.

01:36:49.100 Unbelievable.

01:36:49.620 By the way, before we get to those super chats, we were talking, could there be a run on the bank?

01:36:53.980 I just got a text.

01:36:55.160 Listen to this.

01:36:56.520 It's from Lady Menzoid.

01:36:58.620 David, after the live stream, please send me an email to say that you give authorization to close or move anything that we have in our joint account at the bank.

01:37:09.840 Oh, I guess it's coming into my name.

01:37:12.320 Oh, boy.

01:37:14.200 If only I could get to Las Vegas, but, of course, not being double-backs, I can't.

01:37:19.280 Anyways, this, I think this story has legs, Sheila.

01:37:24.220 Suddenly, I think anyone that's given a donation, even $10, they're terrified by all this talk about frozen assets and seizing bank accounts.

01:37:34.760 And, you know what?

01:37:37.140 And I got to, are you at all distressed, Sheila, that somebody like, oh, I don't know, the Royal Bank of Canada that now subscribes to politics when it comes to giving a mortgage out,

01:37:48.640 that they might be given a fiscal kick in the you-know-what?

01:37:53.120 I'm not.

01:37:54.600 Yeah, I'm not losing any sleep over the banks suffering through this at all.

01:37:59.700 These are banks that, you know, they'll do business with you or not based on your politics.

01:38:06.320 This is absolutely no different.

01:38:07.980 This is exact.

01:38:09.080 I mean, did the banks put up any resistance to any of this?

01:38:12.180 I bet not.

01:38:13.460 Oh, no.

01:38:14.440 They don't care.

01:38:16.220 I mean.

01:38:16.600 They don't care.

01:38:17.300 They're federally regulated.

01:38:19.580 You think they want to play dirty with the government?

01:38:23.660 What am I saying?

01:38:24.260 Play dirty.

01:38:25.020 Take a stance, a rightful stance against the government or the bureaucracy.

01:38:29.880 All they care about is their soaring quarterly dividends to shareholders and their profits.

01:38:38.220 And they, Canadian banks, are not ones to rock the boat.

01:38:44.380 It's, you know, follow the money.

01:38:45.800 It's all about the money.

01:38:47.060 And they don't see any benefit in them taking a stance against this outrageous clampdown against law-abiding Canadian citizens.

01:38:57.220 And I want to tell you one thing, too.

01:38:58.540 I talked to David Amber, our Ottawa lawyer, about this as well, Sheila.

01:39:03.180 I hope he's not billing us for all the advice he's giving you.

01:39:06.520 Oh, gee.

01:39:06.860 I never thought about that.

01:39:08.000 Sorry, Ezra.

01:39:10.020 But here's the thing, Sheila.

01:39:14.080 Inevitably, if the government goes through with that and seizes the accounts of thousands or millions of Canadians for giving a donation to this trucker convoy,

01:39:23.160 the argument in court would be this.

01:39:25.860 When I gave the donation, this was perfectly legal to do, right?

01:39:32.440 You then brought in an emergencies act that I didn't know you were going to do.

01:39:36.360 You then deemed my past behavior was illegal when it was legal at the time.

01:39:42.000 Sheila, what this is, in baseball terms, is changing the rules of the game in the bottom of the ninth inning.

01:39:48.460 Suddenly it's five strikes and I'm out, right?

01:39:51.420 And he thinks that once this goes before a court, and of course, you know, sometimes the penalty is the process.

01:39:59.460 We're talking months, maybe years.

01:40:01.720 If these seizures happen, we're talking so many dollars in legal fees.

01:40:06.600 No judge is going to say that this was righteous.

01:40:09.440 It's retroactive criminalization, I think, is how I would describe it.

01:40:16.440 But they are already seizing bank accounts now.

01:40:18.540 I don't know about property.

01:40:20.040 I guess the trucks, they'll just take them once they start towing them, as they say they're going to,

01:40:25.000 because they're going to commandeer not only tow truck companies, but the people who drive the tow trucks, too,

01:40:29.600 because that's not slavery or anything.

01:40:32.600 So I guess we'll see how this plays out in the coming days.

01:40:35.240 Justice Minister David Lamedi said a couple of days ago that the government's going to basically nationalize the local tow truck industry.

01:40:44.700 The drivers have spoken out.

01:40:46.740 No way.

01:40:47.620 The Canadian and Ontario Trucking Associations, their heads, have said no chance.

01:40:53.420 And the reason is, once all these shenanigans are over, when this country and this world gets back to a normal state,

01:41:02.120 they depend on the truckers, if you're running a heavy tow operation, for business.

01:41:07.900 If they are identified as those tow trucks that came in and yanked away the rigs of these peaceful protesters,

01:41:16.640 well, they may as well just declare bankruptcy right now.

01:41:20.000 And like I said, imagine private property, private companies, private individuals.

01:41:28.060 I mean, towing is not a government department.

01:41:30.860 It's not a government crown agency.

01:41:33.860 It is in Alberta now.

01:41:35.660 Well, yeah, there you go.

01:41:37.560 But for them to do this, like I said, Sheila, this is beyond Banana Republic kind of stuff.

01:41:42.920 Actually, I can't call Canada a Banana Republic, Sheila.

01:41:46.520 Our weather doesn't permit the growth of bananas.

01:41:48.500 So let's call ourselves now a Maple Syrup Republic.

01:41:52.360 And the dictator has the initials JT.

01:41:57.120 Well, over here in the Canola Republic of Alberta, our government has had to procure their own tow trucks

01:42:02.480 because no tow operators would be involved in towing any of the blockades.

01:42:09.020 So the government has gone and decided to be proactive.

01:42:13.260 They are going to procure their own tow trucks.

01:42:15.160 Sheila, if I was an Ottawa area tow truck driver with this kind of equipment,

01:42:20.020 I would do what the RCMP did to those excavators.

01:42:23.960 I would vandalize my own equipment and go, I'd love to help you out.

01:42:27.560 Something happened.

01:42:29.440 Aside from me having COVID, my rig is down to some nasty person, some deplorable vandalized it.

01:42:37.120 Sorry.

01:42:38.380 I wonder what Minister Lamedi would say to that.

01:42:41.760 What a disgrace.

01:42:43.220 Yeah.

01:42:43.720 Okay.

01:42:44.060 So we should get to some of these chats because we are 12 minutes past the hour and I have a meeting to be in here shortly.

01:42:50.380 So it's several videos to watch for editorial review.

01:42:54.100 And we've got a buck from our friend and colleague, Andrew Chapados, who says, Menzies, who is Dean Blundell?

01:43:08.540 Dean Blundell is someone that used to have a job at 102.1.

01:43:13.040 He was fired.

01:43:14.900 Didn't he say creepy things about young girls?

01:43:20.240 I think he said some homophobic things, but regardless, you know, I'm not one to subscribe to cancel culture.

01:43:28.140 Dean Blundell has gone from, I think, a pretty funny morning man to a very embittered troll online.

01:43:34.980 And case in point, when I was beaten up by Justin Trudeau's henchmen back in December on a public sidewalk where I was posing no harm to anyone, Dean Blundell, and I don't understand why.

01:43:49.340 There you go.

01:43:50.220 Dean Blundell firing over homophobic lawmarks.

01:43:52.980 But he tweeted something out and he said that here is video footage of Menzies getting beaten up.

01:44:02.220 Nothing like these visuals to send you off with a smile on your face for the weekend.

01:44:07.720 I'm paraphrasing, of course, but he was the point is, is he was cheering the beat down on.

01:44:13.780 And I think this is someone, Sheila, who lost a gig in mainstream media and is now incredibly bitter and is now lashing out at others who, quite frankly, are enjoying a measure of success.

01:44:31.420 I'm not mad at Dean Blundell.

01:44:33.660 I feel extreme pity for this pathetic individual.

01:44:38.060 Yeah, there's a lot of, if you Google Dean Blundell fired, there are a lot of times that he was for a lot of dumb things.

01:44:52.060 But he's always cheering on other people to lose their careers.

01:44:55.040 No, I advocate freedom of speech.

01:44:57.080 But I think the last time he was fired, there was an element of him talking about a court case in which you couldn't give those particular details.

01:45:08.600 I'm going by memory.

01:45:09.380 It's going back years ago.

01:45:11.000 So that was a serious line he crossed.

01:45:13.360 And it wasn't some kind of political correctness thing.

01:45:16.120 It was some kind of a judicial thing.

01:45:18.360 But like I said, here's a guy who was riding high once upon a time.

01:45:22.860 Can't get hired in this town.

01:45:24.380 I think he does a podcast or something.

01:45:25.980 I have no time or desire to tune into it.

01:45:29.620 But he has a hate on for me.

01:45:32.060 I don't know why.

01:45:33.980 I don't know because you have a job.

01:45:37.560 Maybe.

01:45:38.180 I don't know.

01:45:40.900 It's just like he's fired.

01:45:43.360 It's he's like he's Justin Trudeau.

01:45:44.940 He's just fired for all those things that he accuses other people of being sexist, transphobic, racist, fired, fired, fired, fired, fired, fired.

01:45:52.940 And then he apologizes and he gets a second chance and a third chance and a fourth chance and then just blows it.

01:45:59.300 It's like he can't help himself.

01:46:00.460 And he's like so many of those people who were like former free speechers who have now suddenly gone woke, like Charles Adler, like Michael Corrin.

01:46:09.340 Oh, because that if you are not willing to work hard and be true to your principles, that's where the money is at, because those jobs come government subsidized in the mainstream media.

01:46:22.020 And you know what, one last thing on this, you know, what the difference is between us and the likes of a Dean Blundell?

01:46:27.980 I would go to bat even now, even after all the nasty stuff you said about me that, OK, he made a so-called homophobic comment.

01:46:36.000 He he you know, it offended the sensibilities of a gay person.

01:46:40.280 I don't believe that's worthy of a death sentence.

01:46:42.520 Once upon a time, you did an on air apology.

01:46:44.740 Maybe you were taken off the air for three days.

01:46:47.000 But in cancel culture, you are in jail as in forever.

01:46:51.240 And I just want to say that think of the worst crime you can commit, Sheila.

01:46:56.700 That would be in my book, first degree murder.

01:47:00.440 You in a premeditated way took the life of another human being.

01:47:04.620 In Canada, you're looking at a 25 year sentence unless deemed a dangerous offender.

01:47:09.100 And you are out.

01:47:10.320 Why?

01:47:10.820 Because we believe in second chances, even in this crime.

01:47:15.140 Yeah, Homolka in Montreal, taking her kids to school.

01:47:18.780 No problem.

01:47:19.300 It's like nothing ever happened.

01:47:20.740 No one for you know, let's not forget that she was a co-serial killer.

01:47:25.900 But we will give you a permanent death sentence or permanent incarceration in thought crime penitentiary.

01:47:33.940 If you say something, you know, that goes across the politically correct grain that is despicable.

01:47:40.440 It makes no sense.

01:47:41.600 So I'm just saying, while Dean Blundell is happy I get beaten off, but beaten up, while Dean Blundell would love to see me taken off the air, I would still stand up to allow him to say what he says, because we really believe in freedom of speech.

01:47:55.960 I think we've given this guy more thought than I've ever given him ever in these few short moments.

01:48:04.740 I don't even like I know on Twitter he likes to try to get my attention.

01:48:09.240 It's weird.

01:48:09.940 There are a few people like that who are like they'll come up and say the most insightful comments about my political arguments.

01:48:16.900 Like, you're ugly, you have a man face, you're old.

01:48:21.440 What?

01:48:21.980 Good argument, guys.

01:48:23.800 Good arguments.

01:48:25.000 Very, very good.

01:48:26.040 How could they be?

01:48:27.560 They must be visually impaired.

01:48:29.300 You're beautiful.

01:48:30.160 Can I say that?

01:48:30.900 Can I call a co-worker beautiful?

01:48:32.540 We don't have a human resources character right now.

01:48:35.360 I think I am the human resources person.

01:48:37.380 But the reason I bring that up is because they don't actually have legitimate arguments, but they pick fights with us for attention to get like street cred with the other leftists.

01:48:48.740 So I just don't even pay attention.

01:48:50.220 It's so pathetic.

01:48:51.840 And I feel like even talking about him right now is punching down.

01:48:56.100 So let's just move on.

01:48:57.880 Good job, Andrew, for hijacking the show.

01:49:00.320 Let's keep going.

01:49:01.400 One last thing about those awful people that say those vile things about you.

01:49:05.240 I don't care.

01:49:05.620 Think of what Margaret Thatcher said when she was asked about when people say, oh, you're ugly.

01:49:11.600 Oh, you're fat.

01:49:12.700 She said, I'm very happy, actually, because when you resort to ad hominem attacks, that means I've won the argument.

01:49:20.440 You have nothing to say.

01:49:21.660 You're now throwing insults as opposed to points that further the debate.

01:49:26.520 So there you go.

01:49:27.280 When they say that to you, you have officially won.

01:49:30.060 Sheila Gunn-Reed, victorious again.

01:49:32.700 I just think they're just looking for a fight like they want to offend me.

01:49:36.620 And I literally could not care less what they think.

01:49:38.900 Like, I couldn't care less.

01:49:40.120 I just don't care.

01:49:41.060 But he just does it for attention.

01:49:42.560 So many of them.

01:49:43.960 If you're watching and you hate watching me because I know you are, I don't care.

01:49:48.560 Go, you know, like, go feed your cats.

01:49:51.620 Do something like that.

01:49:54.300 Like, what?

01:49:55.020 You're neglecting your cats when you're bothering me.

01:49:57.180 Go take care of your cats.

01:49:59.480 Fraser McBurney gives us five bucks.

01:50:02.080 When and if Trudeau sends in those shock troops, you will see the liberals drop from 32 percent to 16 percent down to 8 percent.

01:50:09.720 End of the emergency now.

01:50:13.020 John T. Singus gives us a buck.

01:50:14.940 David Lamedi is total slime.

01:50:16.920 How can he smear and threaten Trump supporters who donate to the trucker convoy when Trump could be reelected?

01:50:25.720 He's a Canadian minister.

01:50:27.060 How do we have good relations with the U.S.?

01:50:29.200 Yeah, I hope future president Ron DeSantis appoints Donald Trump just as busy work to be the secretary of state so that the Canadians have to deal with him all the time just for spite.

01:50:40.880 You know, I mean, that remark from, oh, did you say Trump supporters, minister?

01:50:46.380 Oh, my gosh.

01:50:47.400 Call in the military.

01:50:48.400 Call in the National Guard.

01:50:49.700 And think of what Donald Trump did in his four years.

01:50:53.140 Energy independence.

01:50:54.820 A roaring economy.

01:50:56.520 Historical lows of employment, including employment for Hispanics, blacks, Asians, women.

01:51:03.680 Peace through power.

01:51:05.080 Oh, it was a peaceful.

01:51:07.220 The Abraham Accords.

01:51:08.320 I mean, he he was the opposite of a hawk.

01:51:11.300 He he took out a couple of terrorists, which the mainstream media in the U.S. would call scholars and whatnot.

01:51:19.180 But I mean, what's happened to America and the world in the last year of Trump out of office?

01:51:25.900 And you're telling me this is someone that should be demonized and you're a supporter of sleepy Joe Biden in the White House?

01:51:34.560 Are you kidding me?

01:51:36.900 Yeah, I mean, the world is a far more dangerous place.

01:51:39.980 Putin's going to take over the Ukraine.

01:51:42.620 Sorry, Ukraine.

01:51:43.840 I don't know why I always say the Ukraine.

01:51:45.640 Putin's like saber rattling Ukraine.

01:51:48.760 China is doing all kinds of bad things.

01:51:51.700 You know, under Trump, we had the Abraham Accord and everyone was behaving themselves.

01:51:56.420 Why?

01:51:56.740 Because he turned a few terrorists to dust.

01:51:59.820 A hundred percent.

01:52:00.540 And scared everybody straight.

01:52:02.360 OK, let's keep going.

01:52:03.920 TAC 178, 10 bucks.

01:52:07.500 This is my friend from Twitter.

01:52:08.960 I think the missing piece to the puzzle for many people is that is that Trudeau is a communist.

01:52:14.520 Those who work for him are communists.

01:52:16.100 Those who support him are communists.

01:52:18.020 Never forget.

01:52:19.480 I agree, Sheila.

01:52:20.480 I mean, the great Mark Levin came out last year with American Marxism.

01:52:25.360 Wonderful book.

01:52:26.200 I urge all our viewers to read it.

01:52:27.780 What we're seeing right now is Canadian Marxism.

01:52:30.860 Make no mistake.

01:52:32.580 Mr. Producer, what do you whispering in my ear?

01:52:34.800 OK, great.

01:52:35.400 Let's let's show this.

01:52:39.700 OK.

01:52:41.420 High probability.

01:52:42.460 President Biden says there's a very high probability that Russia will invade Ukraine.

01:52:47.720 They have not moved any of their troops out.

01:52:50.900 They move more troops in.

01:52:52.500 We have reason to believe that they are engaged in a false flag operation.

01:52:56.740 I wonder if it'll be a minor incursion or a minor invasion.

01:53:01.220 Let's listen to Biden mumble through this.

01:53:03.020 We have reason to believe that they are engaged in a false flag operation.

01:53:09.120 They have an excuse to go in.

01:53:10.900 Every indication we have is they're prepared to go in to Ukraine, attack Ukraine.

01:53:17.260 Number one.

01:53:18.360 Number two.

01:53:19.860 I've been waiting for a response from Putin.

01:53:21.680 I've been waiting for my letter, my response to him.

01:53:25.360 It comes to that Moscow embassy.

01:53:27.260 They're faxing it here.

01:53:28.680 Not faxing it.

01:53:29.460 They're attending here.

01:53:30.540 I had not read it yet.

01:53:31.740 I cannot comment on it.

01:53:32.860 Have you just done it in any way?

01:53:35.620 And number three.

01:53:37.520 We have advised that the invading Russian troops should remain socially distant and wear masks.

01:53:44.440 Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.

01:53:45.860 I can't believe he's the leader of the free world.

01:53:49.720 I'm looking at him just standing there squinting, has no idea what's going on.

01:53:54.440 Nothing.

01:53:55.360 I know.

01:53:56.580 Like, he's like, when's my nap?

01:53:58.600 When's my nap?

01:53:59.660 Where's my sippy cup?

01:54:01.540 Yeah, he's got a pocket full of Werthers.

01:54:03.960 He should just be hanging out with the grandkids.

01:54:06.220 He shouldn't be in charge of anything.

01:54:08.240 This is elder abuse, Democrats.

01:54:10.620 Stop it.

01:54:11.740 Yeah, it is.

01:54:13.480 Yep.

01:54:13.800 Well, Fraser McBernie gives us five bucks.

01:54:17.060 Because of my support of Rebel News and others, I've taken out my bank the bulk of my savings,

01:54:22.980 leaving just a hundred bucks in the bank.

01:54:25.540 Wow.

01:54:26.380 H. Pierce, 888, ten bucks.

01:54:28.480 We need to get as many vaccinated people down to Parliament as we can.

01:54:32.220 We'll get them on the stage in front of Parliament to tell their stories.

01:54:35.340 Get them in Parliament, too, so Trudeau can see his handiwork.

01:54:39.040 You know what?

01:54:39.780 That's the thing.

01:54:40.380 Doctors don't even say that this stuff happened.

01:54:45.300 And I'm trying to keep us on YouTube, so let's just move along.

01:54:49.640 Micah BC gives us 20 bucks.

01:54:51.540 Just checking if my credit card is still working.

01:54:53.880 Thank you, Rebel.

01:54:54.700 Well, I'm glad you checked it out with us, and I'm glad your credit card is still working.

01:54:59.380 Sister 2, a buck.

01:55:01.020 Andrew Scheer finally found his spine and other parts of his anatomy three years late, but very welcome.

01:55:07.720 Thank you.

01:55:09.000 That's the thing.

01:55:10.360 I, you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to be graceful.

01:55:15.220 Adam Sosa's got me working on being more graceful when people come around to my way of thinking.

01:55:21.400 Georgie Georgie gives us a buck.

01:55:23.340 Trudeau is reminding me of dictators in their final act.

01:55:26.820 I've studied a lot of them.

01:55:28.240 Their antics never end well.

01:55:29.940 I hope Trudeau recognizes that, but he won't.

01:55:32.340 He wants to bring all of us down with him.

01:55:34.900 Yeah, usually the third world dictators have pulled the chute by now.

01:55:39.720 Like, I think it was only three days to get rid of Ferdinand Marcos.

01:55:43.640 We're going on three weeks.

01:55:44.780 We still can't dislodge Trudeau.

01:55:48.860 Bill CF7.

01:55:50.640 And Sheila, who's to blame for that?

01:55:53.020 Jagmeet Singh, I would suggest.

01:55:54.640 He rails against these oppressive measures in the Emergencies Act, but says, yeah, but

01:56:01.160 we'll probably bump up anyway so it can go through.

01:56:03.620 That is the most disgraceful guy in the House of Commons today.

01:56:08.860 Yeah.

01:56:09.960 Yeah.

01:56:10.360 All of this hinges on him.

01:56:12.300 And he knows that those same people on the steps of the House of Commons, they are politically

01:56:18.500 opposed to him too.

01:56:19.480 So he's happy to silence dissidents, as long as those people are dissident against him

01:56:25.840 too.

01:56:27.420 Bill CF7.

01:56:29.100 Buck, the law hasn't been passed yet, so it is illegal to freeze bank accounts.

01:56:32.940 Well, tell it to the bank.

01:56:34.700 Bob Smith, 1829.

01:56:37.500 Two dollars.

01:56:38.080 Alert.

01:56:38.680 Canadian Constitution Foundation has announced a lawsuit against Emergencies Act.

01:56:42.920 Source.

01:56:43.260 That's great.

01:56:43.880 They're great people.

01:56:44.700 They're doing good work over there.

01:56:45.780 We have some, I think we have some overlap with some of the lawyers or one of our lawyers

01:56:50.680 used to work for them.

01:56:51.840 So they're good.

01:56:54.520 Johnston 666.

01:56:56.640 Ten dollars.

01:56:57.720 David, have you seen your buddy Patrick Brown lately?

01:56:59.780 It was hilarious when he showed up when he was about to start his hockey game.

01:57:03.140 Can go see him and find out if he's still being sneaky.

01:57:06.220 We have some news there.

01:57:07.720 What a coincidence, sir, because stay tuned in the days ahead.

01:57:11.680 The reason I was interviewing David Amber was indeed all about Patrick.

01:57:16.660 Don't give it away.

01:57:17.720 Yeah.

01:57:18.460 But here's the teaser.

01:57:20.680 Remember how I was handcuffed and taken away in a police cruiser and charged with trespassing

01:57:26.600 for standing on a parking lot at a rec center?

01:57:30.320 Well, we had our day in court.

01:57:32.860 Stay tuned to see how that turned out.

01:57:35.840 Well, I think we are successfully all caught up.

01:57:39.600 We've gone almost a half an hour long.

01:57:42.700 Oh, we've got one or two more chats coming in.

01:57:44.540 So Mr. Producer will send those to me right away.

01:57:48.600 David, what do you think is going to happen?

01:57:50.200 Do you think the Liberals are going to prop up the, or the NDP are going to prop up the

01:57:53.860 Liberals today?

01:57:54.580 I know that they are convinced this is going to pass the House and end up in the Senate

01:58:00.140 because I saw Canada's most useless Senator Paula Simons from Alberta complaining that

01:58:07.680 she has been recalled to Ottawa.

01:58:09.520 So she might actually have to work for a living.

01:58:11.240 I would bet my life Jagit is going to support this government.

01:58:17.460 Won't let it fall on this issue because you know what?

01:58:20.680 He's very concerned about all the racism, bigots and white supremacists out there.

01:58:25.680 And something should be done.

01:58:27.320 Although his brother-in-law, I understand, made a sizable donation to the trucker convoy.

01:58:32.940 So all is not simpatico in the Singh family, I understand.

01:58:37.860 But yeah, he's trying to play it both ways.

01:58:40.780 He's saying these are extreme measures.

01:58:43.700 These are unacceptable in a democracy, blah, blah, blah.

01:58:46.340 But when push comes to shove, you know, it's like you see on some police cruisers, deeds

01:58:51.320 speak, Sheila, and he is going to vote.

01:58:55.360 And here's the question.

01:58:56.240 I wonder if it's a whip vote.

01:58:57.320 I wonder if he's told his caucus, you must vote to support this government.

01:59:04.320 Singh is trying to play it both ways.

01:59:07.120 He is a despicable coward, not only on this issue, but when we get into the parliamentary

01:59:12.340 press debates, Sheila, this is the jabroni that says, I do not take questions from rebel

01:59:19.300 news reporters.

01:59:20.100 So in other words, the guy that wants to run the country, the guy that would be dealing

01:59:24.340 with some of the most reprehensible dictators in the world if he became prime minister,

01:59:29.260 he's too afraid of the likes of Alexa Lavoie.

01:59:33.080 Give me a break.

01:59:34.620 Yeah.

01:59:35.080 OK, those final few chats came in.

01:59:38.680 Crazy Beach gives us a buck.

01:59:41.760 Can your RRSPs and investment accounts be frozen too?

01:59:44.620 I don't think anybody knows.

01:59:45.860 I don't think the liberals know.

01:59:46.920 I don't think the banks know.

01:59:47.840 So if you have those things and you donate it to the convoy, I would just be ready for

01:59:53.040 those things to be frozen.

01:59:54.720 On the note of who you look like, Sheila, we had this discussion on Tuesday.

01:59:59.540 I think Alice from The L Word.

02:00:01.880 I had to Google her because I've never watched that show.

02:00:04.960 She's got light hair, though.

02:00:06.880 But maybe I think she's got like a wide nose like I do.

02:00:11.100 So maybe I can see it.

02:00:12.880 What's The L Word?

02:00:14.700 It was a show on HBO, I think.

02:00:17.400 But what is The L Word?

02:00:20.640 I think it's lesbian.

02:00:23.480 But you knew that.

02:00:24.600 You just made me say it because you're mean.

02:00:26.260 I just wanted to see you say lesbian.

02:00:27.600 That's all.

02:00:28.060 There's, you know, something.

02:00:29.140 Well, I exhaled a lot before I did.

02:00:31.220 OK, Paul Otto Newman gives us a buck.

02:00:35.860 Sheila, calling it the Ukraine implies that it's part of Russia.

02:00:38.800 Yes, I know.

02:00:39.580 Calling it Ukraine implies that it is an independent state.

02:00:43.580 Yes, I've fallen for Soviet propaganda and I'm very sorry.

02:00:50.000 Schmickle, five bucks.

02:00:51.560 Was there information found regarding the editing or modification of the emergency acts page

02:00:55.460 edited February 15th, 2022?

02:00:57.220 They can edit it all the time because they can change existing laws and regulations through

02:01:02.060 an ordering council.

02:01:04.100 You know, like they can add penalties to certain acts.

02:01:07.220 That happens all the time.

02:01:08.500 So if you see a law that's been edited, that that just happens because they there's this

02:01:14.320 thing called an ordering council, which means that it doesn't have to go before parliament.

02:01:18.760 They can just sort of do it and it becomes part of the law.

02:01:22.240 It just becomes a regulation in the law.

02:01:24.300 So when you see things edited, it happens all the time.

02:01:27.840 So obviously, since they just invoked the Emergencies Act and they are putting things

02:01:32.280 in there about kids and the proximity to a protest, that's all new.

02:01:35.760 So you will see that law being edited on February 15th, 2022.

02:01:40.580 Always read the fine print.

02:01:41.700 I want to quickly mention this news item, Sheila.

02:01:44.160 You know, we're having an election in Ontario on June 2nd.

02:01:46.920 One of the promises of Doug Ford and the PC party was that electricity rates were going

02:01:53.020 to be cut by 12%.

02:01:55.760 So here we are four months away from the June election and they haven't been cut.

02:02:01.460 And when queried on it, well, to paraphrase the premier, it was kind of like, well, suckers,

02:02:07.280 read the fine print.

02:02:08.000 What we meant to say is that if the Liberals got back in again, they would have raised the

02:02:14.600 rates by 12%, but we froze.

02:02:17.560 So Sheila, it's kind of like me going on a diet to lose 50 pounds and I don't even lose

02:02:22.440 one pound.

02:02:23.840 And I go, no, it's a success because if I had eaten really the way I wanted to have eaten,

02:02:28.580 I would have gained 50 pounds.

02:02:30.620 So I didn't gain the, can you believe that?

02:02:32.980 And this is from a conservative premier.

02:02:35.600 How's your buck of beer coming, by the way, speaking of election promises?

02:02:41.400 Yeah, the NDP do this all the time in Alberta, too.

02:02:44.140 They're like, oh, look at the cuts to health care.

02:02:46.140 And it's like, uh, no, that's it's not a cut if we don't give you as much money as you

02:02:53.160 were asking for.

02:02:54.500 Yeah, we still gave you more money, increased spending.

02:02:57.960 But if we didn't increase it as much as you were asking for, that's not a cut.

02:03:02.400 But yeah, I, I just, it would be nice if Doug Ford followed through on like any, uh, novelty

02:03:09.360 election promise, um, like being for the people and, uh, you know.

02:03:14.860 Oh, Ontario open for business.

02:03:16.900 Remember that one?

02:03:17.500 Open for business.

02:03:18.460 For the people.

02:03:19.820 Buck a beer.

02:03:20.940 We're really batting a thousand.

02:03:22.640 Again, read the fine print.

02:03:24.000 If you're Costco, Walmart, or the LCBO, you're open for business no matter what.

02:03:28.220 I mean, even if a tsunami hit Ontario, you're open for business out there.

02:03:34.220 Go, go home and go out of business.

02:03:36.300 You know what?

02:03:36.960 Quickly, before we wrap up.

02:03:39.160 Okay.

02:03:39.740 Uh, we've got a little update from Toronto police and there's one more thing I want to

02:03:42.820 talk about.

02:03:44.200 Ottawa police.

02:03:45.140 Of course, we know you've been through a lot and we're committed to returning your

02:03:49.220 streets back to normal.

02:03:50.160 We know that the increased police presence may be distressing to some.

02:03:53.200 We're here to keep you safe and complete our mission.

02:03:55.420 We will be communicating all of our actions as soon as we can.

02:03:58.000 And you will be hearing more from us in the hours and days to come.

02:04:01.900 And Sheila, you want to know why they put out those tweets?

02:04:05.980 It's this.

02:04:06.740 They're coming.

02:04:08.020 They're coming.

02:04:09.120 No, not only are they coming.

02:04:10.460 Remember the people in Ottawa or in Canada or anywhere in the world that are urging governments

02:04:15.900 to crack down on these trucker convoy peaceful protests are the very same people who

02:04:22.900 campaign on defunding the police.

02:04:25.520 But now that the police are useful idiots with the use of force to shut down a political

02:04:32.580 movement they despise.

02:04:34.200 Suddenly we like them.

02:04:35.820 And the Ottawa police are saying, hey, we know in normal times you hate us, but please don't

02:04:41.660 be too, too triggered because we're actually trying to do your bidding, at least on this

02:04:46.100 state of affairs.

02:04:47.980 Sheila, we're living in the bizarro Superman universe.

02:04:52.440 What can I tell you?

02:04:54.000 We're never going to get off air because I have two more things that we need to talk about.

02:04:59.040 There's a perfect example of this.

02:05:00.860 I forget her name.

02:05:02.740 Catherine something or other.

02:05:04.320 I tweeted about her the other day.

02:05:05.760 And then that was the day that defiant L's like the the account that just screenshots Democrats

02:05:13.360 being hypocrites.

02:05:14.420 If that was the day it got canceled, then I'm like, oh, no, did I just cancel myself by doing

02:05:18.280 exactly the same thing?

02:05:20.180 I forget her name because I'm not really deep on Ottawa municipal politics.

02:05:27.020 But she was the Ottawa councillor who looks exactly how you think she would, who lobbied

02:05:37.580 for the declaration of Ottawa as a sanctuary city.

02:05:43.260 So anybody know, no one is illegal.

02:05:46.380 She's like, everybody's got to come to everybody can come to Ottawa.

02:05:50.000 This is a place where everybody's welcome.

02:05:52.200 Now she's the one who's like, get these terrorists out of my city and return law and order.

02:05:57.300 Like just the worst hypocrite ever.

02:06:00.040 But that yeah, that's is that her?

02:06:02.660 No, it's not Diane Dean.

02:06:03.760 She's another one who the pandemic has not been kind to her mind.

02:06:08.220 Catherine something.

02:06:10.260 Catherine McCressy or something.

02:06:12.680 And Sheila, don't forget to say what the unspoken strategy is between the two groups.

02:06:17.620 With the illegals, there is this quid pro quo, unspoken, unwritten agreement that every four

02:06:24.740 years you vote for Team Red, liberal.

02:06:27.520 But they know the demonstrators, part of the trucker convoy.

02:06:30.540 Is there a single liberal voter in that group?

02:06:33.860 And no, they can't be converted to go red.

02:06:37.820 So that's why one group is demonized.

02:06:41.680 Another group is welcome to come into Ottawa.

02:06:45.320 And of course, even during COVID, Roxham Road remains open for any illegal aliens coming in.

02:06:52.920 Again, the proviso being, remember, every election, vote liberal.

02:06:57.800 That's the difference.

02:06:58.600 Yeah, that was her.

02:07:00.400 He found her.

02:07:01.980 I think, what was her name?

02:07:03.080 Catherine McCressy.

02:07:04.720 Is that it?

02:07:06.940 Oh, Catherine McKinney.

02:07:08.920 Pronouns every time.

02:07:10.160 Oh, they, them.

02:07:10.800 That's exactly how you think she would.

02:07:11.520 Well, you know exactly where somebody stands when you see the, oh, that's a they, them.

02:07:16.860 So that means she's.

02:07:19.100 What?

02:07:19.220 It's just, I'm trying to keep us from getting in trouble.

02:07:22.900 But I just was like, I was standing in the kitchen doing dishes.

02:07:27.080 And I was like, who is this mad woman who's just like, oh, like, get these people out of my city.

02:07:33.380 They're terrorists.

02:07:34.540 We need to restore law and order.

02:07:36.260 They're not welcome here.

02:07:38.000 They're Canadians.

02:07:39.260 That's their capital city.

02:07:40.460 If anybody's welcome in Ottawa, it's them.

02:07:43.760 But anyways, I was like, I wonder, I wonder, I bet you this person was spearheading the movement for sanctuary cities that plagued Canada a few years back.

02:07:57.660 And sure as heck, it was her.

02:08:00.360 I was like, ah, I see.

02:08:02.200 I see.

02:08:02.580 Well, speaking of someone from the Zzer community, I completely agree with you.

02:08:11.200 One last thing before we go.

02:08:15.400 I don't know if you saw this morning, but we talked about it a little bit.

02:08:20.300 The COVID virus is really just the smartest virus that's ever existed.

02:08:24.840 And I'm going to parse my words carefully so that we can stay on YouTube.

02:08:27.420 Because apparently, much like how it knows to attack you if you are out on the streets walking your dog on a certain calendar day after a certain hour at night,

02:08:38.980 or if it knows to attack you if you're standing in a pub, but not if you're sitting in a pub having a beer.

02:08:45.700 The virus also now knows whether or not to attack you based on what's in the sea can that you're hauling with your semi truck.

02:08:56.020 So unvaccinated truckers delivering vaccines and COVID devices are exempt from border rules.

02:09:03.460 So I guess somehow the disease knows that you are carrying PPE or ventilators or vaccines.

02:09:13.180 And so if you follow the science TM, it's perfectly fine to dodge the mandatory vaccinations,

02:09:22.660 the mandatory testing, the mandatory isolation rules that Justin Trudeau has imposed on people hauling food,

02:09:29.260 which I'm also pretty sure is essential.

02:09:31.800 But they've given this exemption due to the urgent public health necessity.

02:09:36.760 So if it is safe for a trucker to haul vaccines and jump the stupid rules,

02:09:43.660 then it is perfectly safe for the trucker hauling your sweatshirts, avocados, whatever.

02:09:51.240 But more nonsense that doesn't make any sense.

02:09:54.580 Sheila, you're 100% right.

02:09:55.740 I don't know why we're only learning about this right now, this enormous loophole.

02:10:01.460 And of course, the proponents are saying, well, you know, the COVID-19 vaccine, it's a matter of life and death.

02:10:07.220 But as you just said, well, here's something, food, do you know what, folks, I swear to God, this is true.

02:10:13.360 You have a 100% chance of dying if you don't eat, you know.

02:10:18.480 What about the medicine that the truckers deliver to the pharmacies of our country?

02:10:24.120 I'm not talking about the vaccine, I'm talking about all the other medicines that people need to stay alive.

02:10:28.940 And for Justin Trudeau, how do you think your blackface cream is getting over the border for you?

02:10:37.300 His drink box, water bottle sort of things are getting to the door.

02:10:40.540 They're not walking there.

02:10:41.880 But I guess we're all essential.

02:10:45.180 These are all essential items, Sheila, but some essentials are more essential than other essentials, to paraphrase George Orwell.

02:10:53.320 That has been the story from the beginning of the pandemic.

02:10:56.360 What is essential to the Liberals is not essential to you.

02:10:59.840 So I think it's an essential health emergency for somebody to have a job and pay their bills, keep a roof over their head and feed their kids.

02:11:08.160 Not so for the Liberals.

02:11:09.520 So that's your latest hypocrisy.

02:11:12.980 But I think that brings us to the end of the show.

02:11:14.920 We went 41 minutes over and we started 10 minutes early.

02:11:19.080 Do we get paid overtime for that, Sheila?

02:11:21.140 I mean.

02:11:21.860 We don't have overtime here, David.

02:11:24.240 What am I saying?

02:11:26.360 Okay, well, folks, thank you so much for tuning in.

02:11:28.920 A special thank you to all of you who generously chipped in.

02:11:32.840 We really appreciate that.

02:11:34.680 Sheila and I will be back on the live stream on Tuesday.

02:11:38.080 Tomorrow, two other rebels whose identities I do not know at this moment shall be here at 12 noon Eastern.

02:11:46.880 And in the meantime, as always, stay sane.

02:11:50.020 Use of force and violence or do we resolve our differences through peaceful, civil means?

02:12:01.460 That is the question that is put before Canadians today.

02:12:06.180 Our history has been one of peaceful, civil discourse and to resolve differences in considered, thoughtful manners.

02:12:19.780 Our prime minister is asking us to discard our history, discard our history, and to embrace forceful, violent means to resolve our differences.

02:12:35.180 With that, I would like to ask Professor Bruce Partey to come to the podium.

02:12:40.900 So, when it comes to the Emergencies Act, the Emperor has no clothes is the message I would like to deliver to you.

02:13:09.820 You may have seen or read legal commentators say that the invocation of the Emergencies Act has not been proper, is not valid, has not been, the requirements have not been met.

02:13:27.300 And they are correct.

02:13:29.080 And I want just briefly to explain why that is.

02:13:32.200 I don't want to get too far into the weeds, but I think it's important that we all understand what they're saying and why.

02:13:40.420 So, I want to start with the Emergencies Act itself.

02:13:44.080 It is, as you probably know, a federal statute, an ordinary federal statute that already existed, has existed since 1988.

02:13:53.060 It provides the framework for a government to invoke as long as, as long as the requirements in the statute are met.

02:14:10.060 And if those requirements are not met, then nothing else works, nothing else is valid.

02:14:15.060 In other words, the government cannot act in this way unless it has statutory authority.

02:14:21.880 Right?

02:14:22.100 So, that's the first point.

02:14:23.580 Second point is this.

02:14:25.880 The Emergencies Act provides for four different kinds of emergencies.

02:14:30.820 Public welfare, public order, international, and war.

02:14:41.680 Now, on this occasion, if you look at the proclamation, the declaration that the government has brought forward,

02:14:48.960 they have chosen a public order emergency.

02:14:54.520 So, the other three are now out.

02:14:55.800 We're talking about a public order emergency as defined in the Act.

02:15:02.760 So, let's look at the definition.

02:15:05.980 And the words, as is always the case when you're dealing with law, the words matter.

02:15:12.240 The words matter.

02:15:13.740 They define the line between lawful and unlawful.

02:15:18.160 So, here's the definition of a public order emergency.

02:15:22.140 It means an emergency that arises from threats to the security of Canada that is so serious

02:15:35.040 as to be a national emergency.

02:15:42.100 Now, as is so often the case in statutes, you have definitions that have terms that are themselves defined.

02:15:48.360 So, one of the requirements of meeting this threshold for a public order emergency is to have a national emergency.

02:15:59.460 What does national emergency mean in the statute?

02:16:03.160 It means this.

02:16:05.200 It means an urgent and critical situation of a temporary nature that is either A or B.

02:16:11.140 And here's A, and I'll tell you B.

02:16:12.800 A is this.

02:16:14.740 A, it seriously endangers the lives, health, or safety of Canadians and is of such proportions

02:16:23.160 as to exceed the capacity or authority of a province to deal with.

02:16:31.120 That's A.

02:16:31.600 B is seriously threatens the ability of the government to preserve the sovereignty, security, and territorial integrity.

02:16:42.880 Now, let's do the two choices.

02:16:43.900 It's got to be A or B.

02:16:45.760 And in this case, I'll get to it in a minute, the government has chosen A.

02:16:50.060 So, forget B.

02:16:51.060 And the final bit of that definition is, and that cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada.

02:17:01.680 Okay?

02:17:02.200 So, we're racking up requirements here.

02:17:04.700 What do we have so far?

02:17:06.920 Number one, in order to be validly invoked, there has to be a public order emergency that, number one,

02:17:17.480 threatens the security of Canada.

02:17:19.800 Number two, seriously endangers the lives, health, and safety of Canadians.

02:17:28.540 Number three, exceeds the capacity or authority of a province to deal with.

02:17:34.980 And number four, is not able to be effectively dealt with under any existing laws.

02:17:41.220 If you do not meet all those four things, you have not met the threshold of a public order emergency.

02:17:49.800 Now, that's the statute.

02:17:53.420 That's the statute that has existed since 1988.

02:17:56.260 Now, we get into what the Trudeau government has actually done.

02:17:59.180 The first thing they did is proclaim, invoke, declare, that they were using the act.

02:18:06.400 And in that proclamation, they have identified, as they are required to do, the emergency they are acting on.

02:18:14.600 Now, how do they describe it?

02:18:17.780 Well, in several parts.

02:18:18.840 But here's the key one.

02:18:21.060 The emergency is activities that are directed toward or in support of threat or use of acts of serious violence.

02:18:32.980 The emergency is serious violence.

02:18:36.660 That's what the government has said for the purpose of achieving a political or ideological objective.

02:18:46.060 That's the basis for the regulations that they have now made.

02:18:50.620 One providing for emergency measures on the ground, and one providing for economic measures, like freezing a bank account.

02:19:01.140 So the question is this.

02:19:02.940 Is that a valid invocation of the act?

02:19:05.480 Well, just this morning, in response to a report, the Minister of Public Safety was asked what the basis was, whether or not they had intelligence about the violence or the weapons.

02:19:22.940 Because after all, keep this in mind, there has not been any violence in Ottawa from the convoy.

02:19:32.800 There has been no violence.

02:19:36.440 And so there must be some kind of evidence that indicates that there's going to be violence, there's going to be a threat of violence, because here again is the words.

02:19:44.600 The words are, in the proclamation, the threat or use of acts of serious violence.

02:19:51.180 In response to the question from the reporter, the minister said that there was no intelligence of the existence or presence of weapons in Dantanamo.

02:20:08.940 And in fact, what he said instead was that the basis for the government's actions was rhetoric.

02:20:20.740 Rhetoric.

02:20:22.680 It was speech.

02:20:26.880 It was the expression of an ideological position.

02:20:32.400 Now, just for a moment, consider the implications.

02:20:39.660 This is a government that has invoked an emergency statute on its own admission on the basis of something that somebody has said.

02:20:53.040 They have no actual violence occurring.

02:20:57.780 They have no intelligence about threats of violence occurring.

02:21:01.960 I'm sure you can work out what the consequences are if this is to be considered a proper use of the Emergencies Act.

02:21:08.860 Now, let's just take a bigger picture just for a moment.

02:21:14.460 I don't want to get too far into this.

02:21:16.080 I don't want to take up too much time.

02:21:19.560 But just for a moment, consider this.

02:21:22.400 The ideology that is now in place in our political realm is one in which language is being redefined.

02:21:32.560 There's all kinds of terms that don't mean what they used to mean.

02:21:38.120 Race is important.

02:21:39.640 But included in that list are some very important terms that are very relevant here, like freedom.

02:21:47.700 Freedom now means, apparently, safety.

02:21:53.000 The rule of law means governments taking control of things for, quote, proper outcomes.

02:21:59.740 And one of those words that have been redefined is violence.

02:22:09.720 Violence can now mean words.

02:22:15.060 Honking has been called violence.

02:22:21.900 And they now are taking that literally.

02:22:25.240 They have said they're proceeding against violence.

02:22:29.700 And what do they have?

02:22:30.520 They have words.

02:22:32.560 They have rhetoric.

02:22:34.420 They have an expression of a political position.

02:22:37.880 And it is that rhetoric, it is that political position that they are afraid of.

02:22:44.360 And that constitutes the emergency.

02:22:46.920 And in a way, you know it does.

02:22:48.920 It does constitute an emergency for them.

02:22:51.920 Now, not within the meaning of the Emergencies Act, that does not meet that threshold.

02:22:59.480 But in political terms, you can kind of see how this might be seen by them as an emergency.

02:23:06.200 So I'll leave you with this thought.

02:23:07.100 If this invocation of the Emergencies Act is valid, then governments have the power to declare emergencies and crush any peaceful process,

02:23:24.040 any dissent that threatens their political fortunes and ideology.

02:23:31.180 And that's not the kind of country we want to live in.

02:23:35.980 Thank you.

02:23:36.500 Thank you.

02:23:36.580 Thank you very much.

Rebel News Podcast - February 17, 2022

DAILY ｜ The calm before the storm in Ottawa

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