Rebel News Plus is a new long-form TV-style show produced in partnership with The Rebel. In this episode, host Sheila Gunn-Reed is joined by Adam Sos and Tami Ugolini to discuss the unfolding story of a rebel convoy on its way to Ottawa.
00:11:40.260And they thrust themselves into that broader conversation, into that mucky area that politicians and political pundits and news commentators steer clear of.
00:11:50.840They said, no, we're going to go there.
00:11:53.100They can handle rough roads, ice roads, get through all that stuff.
00:11:56.380They're willing to navigate this rough terrain because they know it's the right thing to do.
00:12:00.760And it is so refreshing and so encouraging that it is while academics have failed and politicians have failed.
00:12:07.240And all these hoity-toity intellectuals have failed to adhere to the truth and to follow the evidence and to trust the science, despite what Justin Trudeau says.
00:12:28.380We're getting in our trucks and we're going to go make a difference.
00:12:31.520You know, I want to go back to something you mentioned right off the beginning.
00:12:34.720And that's that the DOT, the Department of Transportation and the Ministry of Transportation, they're opening their way scales at bizarre hours, checking logbooks, checking trucks, doing safety checks.
00:12:45.220And normally that's just, you know, something that's built into trucking.
00:12:53.880They're, you know, going through these trucks with a fine-tooth comb.
00:12:58.240And I have a conspiracy theory about this.
00:13:00.720And tell me if I'm in the right direction.
00:13:04.300But I think that they are breaking the convoy up so that people really can't get a sense of how big it is.
00:13:13.480I think governments are using the way scales and the safety checks and the Department of Transportation to sort of, to make it so that it's very difficult to get a good and accurate picture of just how many trucks and truckers and their supporters are on the road at any given time.
00:13:34.260Because now, because of these delays caused by the way scales, it can take hours and hours and hours and even overnight for all the trucks to get into one spot.
00:13:42.720And by the tail, by the time the tail end gets there, the front end is already leaving.
00:13:46.760So, you know, for, I guess, the news media, it looks like there are not as many trucks as we know there are because we have Mocha Bezergin embedded in the convoy.
00:13:57.680Yeah. And I think, I think to an extent, that may be a factor.
00:14:02.580I think you might be smarter than them, though.
00:14:04.700I don't know if they're necessarily calculating it from an optics perspective.
00:14:10.400I think their intention, at this point, this is all allegations.
00:14:26.480But I think their ultimate intention is to disenfranchise, to discourage people, to make the already arduous trek across the nation that much more difficult.
00:14:38.660I think that they're completely, completely underestimating the resilience, the persistence and the tenacity of these truckers.
00:14:49.220When, when you're doing something like this, and it seems by all measures that the government is going out of their way to make it more difficult, that's a pat on the back for truckers.
00:15:01.400You're just telling them, wow, you are so effective.
00:15:05.460We need to implement the Department of Transportation to try and impede your efforts because you're so powerful.
00:15:11.860You don't react like that if you're not scared.
00:15:15.060And I don't believe for a second these people are scared for their safety.
00:15:17.580I don't think anyone in Ottawa believes this is a terrorist organization.
00:15:25.380They're all waving, cheering, shouting for Rebel News, very wonderful people, lovely people, people you'd love to sit down and have a beer with, have a conversation with.
00:15:35.740What they're afraid of is that this is finally the unifying symbol that's uniting Canada.
00:15:41.380So they're launching all these countermeasures to try and undermine it.
00:15:45.300But like a broken bone that heals and is stronger than ever before, these minor truck stops and impediments, one will provide ample fodder for us to report on for years.
00:15:55.380And further, just prove how bad and how corrupt this government is.
00:15:59.740But two, it's proving that this is effective.
00:16:02.680We are seeing mainstream media outlets bring people from the convoy on and talk about it.
00:16:08.100And don't get me wrong, there's still the odd article out there maligning them.
00:16:12.220They're still trying to make them look like extremists.
00:16:15.060The media is going to media as they do.
00:16:17.320But I think there are reporters within the agencies now, within some of these agencies, who are like, man, I really need to do some journalism.
00:17:01.700This is the moment where people are standing.
00:17:04.180And it's incredible to see these polls taking place where the vast majority support them.
00:17:09.680And aside from the loudmouths on Twitter who disproportionately exercise their influence, I think most Canadians are saying enough is enough.
00:17:16.720When I talk to people, I'll even talk to people online or maybe in forums where they don't even know who I am.
00:17:40.220I think this is the right moment in the right time.
00:17:43.380I don't think that this could have happened as effectively sooner.
00:17:48.760I think this is the breaking point and good for the truckers, good for their supporters and good for them in the face of the lies and libel and maligning that's going to come their way.
00:18:00.560And that has already started to come their way.
00:18:18.760I'm Tamera Ugolini pointing out some fishy actions by the Toronto Board of Health a mere day and a half after the interview that I conducted with unofficial COVID data analyst Kelly Brown.
00:18:33.820We at the time discussed the presentation that he delivered to the Toronto Board of Health on January the 17th.
00:18:41.360And then we linked back to the fully public live streamed video.
00:18:46.000And on Friday, January 21st, I tried to go back to that publicly available live stream source to get some additional content.
00:18:55.420But when I tried to do that, I was shocked to find that the board had privatized the video.
00:19:01.820In usual times, which obviously these are not, you would be able to find the full live streamed and public video on the City of Toronto Council and Committee's meetings, agenda, and minutes website.
00:19:21.000And we'll show this screen grab that we got on screen now to prove it.
00:19:25.740And it appears that sometime thereafter, the video was magically republished under the Board of Health's video archive, but with at least one key speech missing.
00:19:38.400It was the speech of Dan Hartman, who runs a Twitter page called Answers for Sean, where he claims that the 17, his 17-year-old son died a mere few weeks after his first Pfizer injection.
00:19:53.040Look at the formal public record of his speech.
00:20:23.700Councillor Wong Tam engaged with him a little bit and they had a conversation.
00:20:26.820And so is the way in which Joe Cressy, he's the chair for the Board of Health, responded to Dan's heartbreaking allegation.
00:20:36.580Cressy was heartless and cold, not even attempting to acknowledge the tearful account by Sean's dad.
00:20:42.980He glossed over the horrific allegation entirely.
00:20:46.620I know because I watched it live, but it's a clip that we can no longer view, thanks to whomever decided to scrub the speech from the public record.
00:20:57.960Here is one clip that made it onto social media of Dan's speech.
00:21:06.220And again, I know because I listened to it live, but it's better than the absolute nothing that we're left with from the Board of Health's public record.
00:23:35.640Politicians and public health bureaucrats are quickly losing their stranglehold on the COVID-19 narrative.
00:23:42.100And sometimes that loss of control happens in real time in front of a live studio audience, for lack of a better term.
00:23:48.960So what's a politician to do when this stuff happens?
00:23:51.720Well, you just gaslight everybody, pretend they're hard of remembering, and pretend like it never happened.
00:23:56.660You just wash it from the official record.
00:23:59.760That's what happened in a meeting of the Toronto Board of Health.
00:24:03.420Although the politicians and the public health bureaucrats tried to memory hole the testimony of a father with a now-deceased vaccine-injured child by cropping it from the public record,
00:24:12.860rebel reporter Tamera Ugolini watched his testimony firsthand, and then she saw it disappear.
00:24:22.080Tamera, I watched your story, and I thought, how many other times across the country has this happened that we didn't have a reporter sitting in on the meeting to notice?
00:24:37.280And originally I had, I think I mentioned in the report, I had gone back to source that live-streamed fully public record of that original board hearing to pull some other content for a separate report.
00:24:50.200And I was shocked when it said that it was privatized, and I was kind of going through my head and racking my brain and referencing some of my notes,
00:24:58.120wondering what was the nail in the coffin for them that had them pull and privatize the content.
00:25:03.380And it was funny because I actually hadn't even considered Dan Hartman's deputation at that time.
00:25:09.540I didn't think that it was something that needed to be scrubbed.
00:25:13.700And then lo and behold, a few hours later, when they republished the report, a few individuals who had also taken part in that hearing,
00:25:22.460they were actually the first ones to point out that his deputation is entirely cut.
00:25:26.860And then he and Councillor Wong Tam, who you see at the very end, thank him and give her basically her sympathies about the heartbreaking story that he recounted about his son's tragic death.
00:25:39.420The dialogue that they had together was gone completely.
00:25:44.400And so all that's left is basically, you know, going back into your memory bank and trying to remember what was said and the exact allegations.
00:25:58.180It makes me wonder across the country, as you said, how many other times has this happened, either on the municipal, provincial or the federal level?
00:26:08.260Yeah, that's the thing. These meetings are the public record.
00:26:12.520They are the public record of what was said and what was done.
00:26:15.680And they are recorded so that the public can hold their politicians to account.
00:26:22.620And it's something that holds up the value of transparency that we have in the Western world.
00:26:29.560In places like China and North Korea, Venezuela, that's where they decide what you can and can't say in a meeting.
00:26:38.800And if you slip into the meeting and actually say something, then they do.
00:26:42.600Well, sometimes they disappear you, but they definitely disappear your comments, too.
00:26:46.640It's eerie to see it happening in Toronto, of all places.
00:26:52.100And the gall with which these people do this.
00:26:55.800There were thousands of people watching that meeting.
00:27:05.600You know, and I think that it works actually in the favor of sometimes the dissidents because it's it's right in your face.
00:27:14.340Hey, why would they they have nothing to hide and they're being so forthcoming with all the information and giving people true informed consent?
00:27:22.540Well, then why would they do something like that?
00:27:24.740Why? What was the point of scrubbing that testimony from the public record if there's nothing to hide?
00:27:30.800It just further shows that these these bureaucrats are making these closed door decisions.
00:27:36.640They're not properly informing the public.
00:27:39.280And I mean, point blank, they're hiding something and they're hiding the you know, in Dan's testimony that I, again, listen to live.
00:27:46.360So he specifically asked them, why aren't you reporting any of the deaths?
00:27:52.640And of course, no one had any answers and we still don't have any answers.
00:27:55.880So it just lends to the fact that there is something to hide here and and who's the other thing is who's making this decision and why?
00:28:04.980So that's part of why I filed that freedom of information request, because I wanted at the time I didn't know yet what what had been scrubbed.
00:28:12.360So I wanted to find out what had been scrubbed and if we could gain access to the full live stream video once again.
00:28:20.260Because as we know, the Toronto Board of Health and Toronto Public Health and that is overseen by Dr.
00:28:25.660Eileen Davila, she doesn't take questions or garner responses to Rebel News.
00:28:30.740So I knew that it was a dead end, but worth reaching out anyway.
00:28:34.220You know, that's a very interesting point.
00:28:36.720Not only are these people secretive, they are doing the like it's very Orwellian what they're doing.
00:28:42.940They're taking something that happened in reality and just disappearing it because it doesn't fit their narrative.
00:28:49.620It is like going back and rewriting history from 1984.
00:28:54.480But they also reject any form of accountability journalism.
00:28:59.360There's a reason why they take questions from the CBC and they answer CBC's media inquiries and they don't answer yours is because you're trying to hold them to account for the dastardly deeds that they're doing.
00:29:12.360It makes me wonder, you know, when you say or when, you know, the father of this vaccine injured child says, why aren't you reporting the deaths?
00:29:25.140Who's to say that somebody has not reported these deaths and then they were just like his testimony disappeared from the public record altogether.
00:29:34.700If they're doing this with testimony that happens in public in front of thousands of people, what are they doing with the numbers that come in on their email?
00:29:43.040How are they playing fast and loose with those two?
00:29:44.980Well, and I think and I'm not sure how the reporting works in Alberta, but I know that here in Ontario, for instance, the publicly available data, you're the definition of unvaccinated is if you're within the first two weeks of your vaccine.
00:30:00.840And so those that's the textbook timeframe to actually have an adverse reaction, which could in this instance be death.
00:30:08.800That wasn't the case here with this particular this particular boy who is 17, healthy, athletic, young male.
00:30:17.100But if there's a textbook vaccine reaction, which could include death, then that person is marked as actually being unvaccinated because they're within that first two weeks post vaccination.
00:30:29.360So the it's really fishy, all of these these little discrepancies that people don't realize, hinder or skew that those reports.
00:30:43.300And I mean, I'm just here trying to make sense of it, piece this puzzle together.
00:30:46.760But I think this is a pretty clear instance where people are, you know, who maybe were on the fence before or didn't realize what was maybe going on or saying, whoa, hold on a minute.
00:30:59.360Yeah, and I know you have a tight timeline, so this will be my last question to you or my last comment, and then you can comment too.
00:31:06.520You know, what an insult to this family that, you know, they're trying to warn other families or at least get answers for themselves.
00:31:16.540They sort of want to make sure that their son just didn't die in vain, that maybe another family needs this information too.
00:31:23.860And yet they are now being treated like they don't exist.
00:31:28.340What a final insult to this already grieving family.
00:31:32.420Well, and I haven't put it on the record yet, but the father, Dan Hartman, and I are in communications together.
00:31:39.260And one thing, one part of his testimony that didn't make it into that very small social cut that was posted onto social media before they scrubbed the record was the fact that he's had, he has the coroner's report.
00:31:51.040So he has the autopsy report, and then he had it interpreted by another pathologist who refuses to go on the record.
00:31:59.940Of course, they fear, you know, they want to remain anonymous because the state of affairs in Canada, he doesn't want to risk employment or his reputation.
00:32:08.780So he, off the record, interpreted this report to this dad, Dan Hartman.
00:32:15.180And so we're trying to see if we can even get a third opinion for this dad and substantiate what those, the two differing opinions might have been.
00:32:24.520And if there's maybe some, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
00:32:26.980Because, yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, his Twitter page is answers for Sean.
00:32:31.760He just wants to know so that he can continue to, to grieve and have some closure in this situation.
00:32:40.560Tamara, I want to thank you so much for staying on this story.
00:32:43.520It seems as though the mainstream media doesn't care about these sorts of families where, you know, they're just, like you say, trying to get answers.
00:33:14.160Now, even more additional barriers have been placed on us, such as masks and social distancing.
00:33:28.580I mean, these policies interfere and disregard people such as myself who rely heavily on ASL, which is 70% facial.
00:33:40.840So before the pandemic, yeah, things were bad, but now it's magnified.
00:33:47.680The definition of a barrier is anything that prevents a person with a disability from fully participating in all aspects of society.
00:33:58.760So I guess you can imagine I'm not fully participating in society and neither are all my deaf friends.
00:34:05.000The deaf and hard of hearing, well, their public communication has been hindered by the lack of facial cues, the inability to use touch and lip reading to communicate.
00:34:16.020And then, of course, the use of plexiglass further muffles the sound even further.
00:34:21.180I haven't had my hearing tested, but even I struggle to understand people who are speaking to me in a mask, especially when there is an additional barrier between us of plexiglass.
00:34:33.940So I can just even imagine how hard it must be for someone who actually can't hear.
00:34:38.840As I said off the top of the show, we allow your viewer feedback here, unlike the increasingly feedback-averse mainstream media who are just so happy to take your bailout bucks,
00:34:48.580but they don't want to hear your opinion that might go along with your dollars.
00:34:52.360But that's not the case here, so let's get to what you had to say.
00:34:55.460Aunt Tamara's story about how the deaf community has been harmed by mask mandates.
00:35:00.200Yeah, hypochondriacs and those fear-addicted anxiety junkies are the ones running the show now,
00:35:18.240and they don't seem to care who they harm along the way as long as they get their fix.
00:35:23.100Why did you come to support the truckers?
00:35:25.620Because we have to do it for our children. We have to do it for the, just for our country, period.
00:35:31.440For our children. So they're standing up for our children, so we'll stand up for them.
00:35:36.260Because they're the only ones standing up for our freedom.
00:35:39.220My father-in-law's a trucker, my stepfather's a trucker, and I appreciate all that they do.