Rebel News Podcast - October 09, 2021


DAVID MENZIES ｜ Quebec Cops Harass Rebel, Fight The Fines Victory in NS


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

159.66895

Word Count

6,778

Sentence Count

435

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

In which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite rebels. Our Quebec-based reporter, Alexa Lavoie, was harassed by security guards for filming on the grounds of the National Assembly in Quebec City, all of which further strengthens her thesis that current Quebec Premier Francois Legault really does resemble former Quebec Premier Maurice Duplessis when it comes to the bully boy factor. And we have notched yet another success on the Fight the Fines front, this time saving Brian Landrieu of Stellarton, Nova Scotia from having to pay a $1,000 ticket that he received simply for doing some grocery shopping at the local Sobeys.


Transcript

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00:01:14.380 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,
00:01:32.580 in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite rebels.
00:01:37.380 I'm your host, David Menzies.
00:01:39.280 Well, our Quebec-based reporter, Alexa Lavoie, was harassed by security guards for shockers
00:01:46.640 filming on the grounds of the National Assembly in Quebec City,
00:01:51.140 all of which further strengthens Alexa's thesis
00:01:54.620 that current Quebec Premier, François Legault,
00:01:58.480 really does resemble former Quebec Premier Maurice Duplassé
00:02:03.460 when it comes to the bully boy factor.
00:02:06.820 Alexis will join me to try and make sense of it all.
00:02:10.820 And we have notched yet another success on the Fight the Fines front.
00:02:15.480 This time, our legal team saved Brian Landrieu of Stellarton, Nova Scotia
00:02:21.200 from having to pay a $1,000 ticket that he received
00:02:25.560 simply for doing some grocery shopping at the local Sobeys.
00:02:30.400 Sheila Gunn-Reed has all the details.
00:02:32.700 And letters, we get your letters, we get them every minute of every day.
00:02:36.700 And you had plenty to say about Ontario MPP Rick Nichols,
00:02:40.960 who was first kicked out of caucus for not getting vaxxed
00:02:44.200 and then coerced into giving up his deputy speaker gig at Queen's Park
00:02:49.480 because his unvaxxed status was offensive to the NDP.
00:02:55.260 And, oh, Mr. Nichols has some very interesting things to say indeed
00:02:59.420 about Corey Tanik of Rubicon Strategy Inc.,
00:03:02.940 a man who A, allegedly represents big pharma clients such as Pfizer and AstraZeneca
00:03:09.480 and B, has the ear of Premier Doug Ford.
00:03:14.220 How does that saying go again?
00:03:15.820 Oh yeah, follow the money.
00:03:17.920 Those are your Rebels, now let's round them up.
00:03:25.760 Maurice Duplessis is a Canadian lawyer and politician
00:03:29.380 who served as the 16th Premier of Quebec.
00:03:33.720 The period during his Premiership is known as the Great Darkness.
00:03:39.360 Towards the end of 1944, Jehovah Witnesses embarked on a massive door-to-door operation
00:03:49.960 to distribute their newspaper, the Watchtower.
00:03:55.100 The clergy, supported by the Unionist government of Maurice Duplessis,
00:04:01.580 denounced this campaign and encouraged the arrest of church members,
00:04:06.960 which was carried out between 1944 and 1946.
00:04:13.120 More than 400 Jehovah Witnesses were accused of sedition
00:04:18.560 and concerted revolt against the established authority.
00:04:24.240 So in 1944, 41 Jehovah Witnesses were arrested in Montreal,
00:04:29.440 105 in 1945 and 241 in 1946.
00:04:34.080 This form of repression garnered attention and publicity.
00:04:40.740 It was then that restaurateur Frank Roncarelli intervened
00:04:45.920 by paying the bond for the detained Jehovah Witnesses.
00:04:50.740 Autranged by the attitude of Roncarelli,
00:04:55.900 then Premier Duplessis redrew his liquor license,
00:05:00.040 a wind of protests arose across Canada over this arbitrary measure.
00:05:06.300 Doesn't that sound awfully similar to what is currently happening here in Canada?
00:05:11.520 trying to be heard before a judge?
00:05:15.900 Roncarelli, Lodge, complaint against...
00:05:20.560 Excusez-moi, là.
00:05:21.780 Vous me niaisez que ça fait 5 fois que je reprends ma maudite prise
00:05:28.180 et vous venez m'interrompre.
00:05:30.760 Qu'est-ce que ça vous fait, là?
00:05:31.800 Pourquoi vous venez ici, là?
00:05:33.440 Je veux juste vous dire que vous pouvez faire votre vidéo en dehors de mon tour.
00:05:38.040 Pourquoi ici, c'est...
00:05:39.380 Parce que ici, ça n'a pas une autorisation pour faire ça.
00:05:41.500 Je crois que les touristes peuvent venir filmer, mais...
00:05:44.100 Pourquoi les touristes peuvent venir filmer par nous?
00:05:46.360 Oui, mais vous êtes en train de faire un reportage, là, maman.
00:05:49.040 Je ne peux pas continuer quelque chose.
00:05:50.280 Je suis un média, comme les autres médias qui sont ici.
00:05:52.900 C'est ce que je vous dis, tous les médias qui...
00:05:53.880 Oui, tous les médias font des reportages ici.
00:05:55.460 J'ai été toutes vues.
00:05:56.240 Oui, mais ils ont une autorisation, madame.
00:05:57.300 Et ils obtiennent l'autorisation pour faire.
00:05:59.660 Est-ce que vous comprenez ça?
00:06:00.560 Je ne viens pas juste parce que j'ai envie de vous embêter.
00:06:02.740 Parce que là, vous m'avez pris en grippe.
00:06:04.300 Depuis tout à l'heure que je vous vois me suivre,
00:06:06.300 vous, vous étiez là tantôt, vous m'avez suivi également.
00:06:09.660 C'est quoi que vous avez contre moi, là?
00:06:14.100 Vous me suivez partout, ça fait que là, on commence à se connaître.
00:06:16.520 Je fais mon boulot, moi.
00:06:17.620 Mon boulot, c'est de faire appliquer les textes ici.
00:06:19.960 OK?
00:06:21.560 S'il vous plaît, monsieur, il faut bien que je vous dise
00:06:24.320 ce à quoi je suis assigné.
00:06:27.280 J'en ai pour 15 minutes.
00:06:28.520 Qu'est-ce que ça vous fait dans votre vie?
00:06:30.100 Vous m'auriez peut-être jamais vu.
00:06:31.800 J'aurais fait ma vidéo, ça aurait été « that's it », là.
00:06:34.100 OK, mais le problème, c'est que je vous ai vu
00:06:36.760 et je dois faire mon boulot.
00:06:38.780 Et je vais vous demander gentiment
00:06:40.020 de le faire un peu plus à l'extérieur, c'est tout.
00:06:42.560 Un peu plus à l'extérieur, mais un peu plus...
00:06:44.100 genre sa rue, là.
00:06:45.480 S'il vous plaît, madame.
00:06:46.220 Mais non, moi, j'ai besoin d'être à côté de monsieur Duplessis.
00:06:48.200 On va pas s'obstiner pour ça, OK?
00:06:49.480 Mais moi, j'ai besoin d'être à côté de la...
00:06:50.940 Monsieur Duplessis, il est sur nos terrains pour l'instant.
00:06:53.860 Et moi, je vous dis que vous pouvez pas faire ça sur nos terrains.
00:06:56.520 Est-ce que ça, vous pouvez comprendre ça...
00:06:57.660 It's completely crazy.
00:06:58.620 Did you see like that?
00:07:00.220 They authorise any other media,
00:07:02.420 but Rebel Media is not allowed here,
00:07:05.640 in this place.
00:07:06.700 C'est ça.
00:07:07.500 No, I'm reporting what is going on here.
00:07:10.800 You enforce this...
00:07:12.000 Je suis juste en tête de vous...
00:07:12.920 No, you are enforcing this kind of thing.
00:07:15.680 I'm not doing anything wrong.
00:07:17.360 I'm just filming,
00:07:18.300 and you come to me, two officers,
00:07:20.240 to tell me that I'm not allowed to film for...
00:07:22.740 not even 10 minutes.
00:07:24.000 I find that horribly,
00:07:25.720 completely outrageous.
00:07:27.540 And if you don't understand English,
00:07:29.640 it's not my problem.
00:07:30.440 Have you seen that?
00:07:33.200 What did you just do?
00:07:34.560 They came to me,
00:07:35.560 I was just recording one video,
00:07:38.120 and they came to say that I'm not allowed to film here,
00:07:40.940 when all the tourists who come to the Parliament of Quebec
00:07:43.860 are allowed to shoot their video.
00:07:47.420 Can you believe that?
00:07:48.560 In which kind of Canada we are,
00:07:50.220 which kind of democracy we have,
00:07:52.300 I'm not allowed to record anywhere.
00:07:54.980 That's not supposed to be.
00:07:56.220 So folks,
00:07:56.980 how does that saying go again?
00:07:58.420 The more things change,
00:07:59.680 the more they remain the same.
00:08:01.300 Case in point,
00:08:02.180 going back to 1944,
00:08:03.860 Quebec Premier Maurice Duplassé
00:08:06.060 resented the Jehovah's Witnesses,
00:08:09.240 likely because the witnesses back then
00:08:11.240 embarked on a massive door-to-door operation
00:08:14.040 to distribute their newspaper.
00:08:16.940 The church was supported
00:08:18.360 by the Unionist government of Duplassé,
00:08:20.660 and incredibly,
00:08:22.360 the arrests of more than 400 witnesses
00:08:24.820 were carried out between 1944 and 1946.
00:08:28.820 But the inconvenient truth was
00:08:31.080 that the witnesses weren't actually breaking any laws.
00:08:35.940 And then Duplassé goes after the man
00:08:38.200 who helped them seek justice,
00:08:39.840 Ron Corelli,
00:08:40.560 by getting his liquor license revoked.
00:08:43.600 It was equal parts outrageous and scandalous.
00:08:47.440 Well, we fast forward to the tape to 2021
00:08:50.480 and just look how Quebec's current premier,
00:08:53.620 Francois Legault,
00:08:54.580 is behaving.
00:08:55.760 But this time,
00:08:56.920 it is the unvaccinated citizens
00:08:58.680 who are playing the role of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
00:09:01.820 And as you just saw,
00:09:03.780 Legault's goon squad
00:09:05.180 doesn't like any negative media coverage
00:09:08.280 taking place on the grounds of the National Assembly.
00:09:11.220 So they shut it down.
00:09:13.800 Unbelievable.
00:09:14.440 And joining me now with more on this story
00:09:17.160 is our Quebec-based reporter,
00:09:19.080 Alexa Lavoie.
00:09:20.280 Bonjour, Alexa.
00:09:21.960 Bonjour.
00:09:23.180 So, Alexa, lots to unpack here.
00:09:26.140 Let's begin with your treatment
00:09:27.860 by those security guards.
00:09:30.080 Now, I could tell you were absolutely furious
00:09:33.380 with those guards following you around,
00:09:35.940 and your fury was indeed justified.
00:09:38.460 But what's the problem
00:09:41.080 with anyone filming
00:09:42.840 outside the National Assembly
00:09:44.620 in the first place?
00:09:46.420 But I think it's mostly because
00:09:48.660 it was the same day
00:09:50.060 that I bring the petition
00:09:51.100 at the parliament
00:09:52.780 where six officers and police
00:09:56.460 came towards me,
00:09:58.640 and they were keeping following me everywhere.
00:10:00.940 And I think they just saw me
00:10:04.360 on the parliament.
00:10:06.220 And I don't know if you know,
00:10:07.760 but during this day,
00:10:09.660 they actually panicked
00:10:11.120 if they saw anybody
00:10:12.700 filming or taking pictures
00:10:15.440 around the parliament.
00:10:17.140 So it's why, like,
00:10:18.940 they keep following me.
00:10:21.260 But I was like,
00:10:22.820 not again.
00:10:23.760 So I get really mad
00:10:25.240 because I was like,
00:10:26.540 I'm just trying to do my job,
00:10:28.940 and you try to interrupt me
00:10:30.900 every time that I'm doing my job.
00:10:34.080 And I was like,
00:10:35.200 you know, tourists come,
00:10:36.680 they take movies,
00:10:39.780 they take pictures,
00:10:41.080 and you don't stop them.
00:10:42.560 But you will come and stop me
00:10:44.340 because you consider Rebel News
00:10:46.980 as a not accredited media,
00:10:49.960 and I should not be around.
00:10:52.760 So we are kind of dangerous media.
00:10:55.240 So it's amazing then.
00:10:57.480 Tourists, you can come
00:10:58.580 and film the statue,
00:10:59.780 no problem.
00:11:00.680 Accredited media
00:11:01.620 to the National Assembly,
00:11:03.220 they can film the statue,
00:11:05.060 no problem.
00:11:06.200 Rebel News,
00:11:07.080 as a member of the independent press,
00:11:09.640 that's a problem.
00:11:10.800 Unbelievable.
00:11:11.640 But you know what?
00:11:12.660 That's a bizarre sidebar
00:11:14.560 to the main point of your story.
00:11:16.740 And I thought you made
00:11:17.600 an excellent point, Alexa.
00:11:19.740 Going back to the 1940s,
00:11:21.520 this jihad by Duplassé
00:11:23.880 against the Jehovah Witnesses,
00:11:26.440 it was incredible.
00:11:28.180 It was an incredible
00:11:29.660 overreach of power,
00:11:31.280 an abuse of authority,
00:11:32.900 you name it,
00:11:33.660 and the courts eventually
00:11:34.800 shut him down.
00:11:35.960 But like you mentioned,
00:11:38.320 we're seeing a repeat
00:11:40.120 of history, aren't we,
00:11:41.320 with Legault.
00:11:42.120 It's not a religious group
00:11:44.740 that he's concerned with.
00:11:46.000 He's going after
00:11:47.300 the unvaccinated.
00:11:49.680 What do you make of this?
00:11:51.760 It's actually,
00:11:52.940 okay, he's going against
00:11:55.160 the non-vaccinated people,
00:11:57.680 but the people
00:11:58.920 who try to help them,
00:12:00.700 as restaurants who say,
00:12:02.340 I will not ask
00:12:03.400 for your medical record,
00:12:06.280 it's already, okay,
00:12:08.360 we licensee,
00:12:09.780 your liquor license.
00:12:10.720 And it's always
00:12:13.320 the first thing
00:12:14.860 that they will do
00:12:15.560 to restaurants.
00:12:16.840 Your liquor license,
00:12:18.040 it's out.
00:12:18.980 And we will give you
00:12:20.140 a fine as well.
00:12:21.840 But it's actually
00:12:23.880 the same process
00:12:25.120 that what Duplassé
00:12:26.440 did before.
00:12:28.160 So,
00:12:28.700 and now,
00:12:29.660 they actually
00:12:30.360 infringe,
00:12:31.600 like,
00:12:31.880 the right of
00:12:32.640 all unvaccinated people.
00:12:35.140 And because they probably
00:12:36.560 think that
00:12:37.680 more we put
00:12:39.100 some restriction,
00:12:40.840 more they would decide
00:12:41.780 to get the vaccine.
00:12:43.280 But,
00:12:44.040 I don't think
00:12:46.180 it's working.
00:12:47.140 You know,
00:12:47.680 and I think
00:12:49.060 if this comes
00:12:50.220 to a court of law,
00:12:51.000 because Duplassé
00:12:51.860 lost,
00:12:52.420 and he lost badly.
00:12:53.740 He went after
00:12:54.600 Ron Corelli's restaurant,
00:12:56.380 his livelihood,
00:12:57.120 by having the authorities
00:12:58.940 yank his liquor license.
00:13:00.360 And you're absolutely right.
00:13:01.480 There are Quebec eateries
00:13:02.740 having their licenses
00:13:04.280 revoked,
00:13:05.180 their liquor licenses,
00:13:05.960 that is.
00:13:06.460 In Winnipeg,
00:13:07.820 Monstrosity Burger,
00:13:09.200 same deal.
00:13:10.160 The province pulled
00:13:11.080 their liquor license.
00:13:12.420 In Calgary,
00:13:13.600 same deal with
00:13:14.480 Without Papers Pizza,
00:13:16.020 their liquor license
00:13:17.040 being yanked.
00:13:18.380 I have a hunch,
00:13:20.480 Alexa,
00:13:20.900 that whenever this
00:13:21.880 gets to court,
00:13:23.440 if it gets to court,
00:13:24.540 that is too,
00:13:25.680 I think
00:13:26.540 this is going
00:13:27.520 to be recognized
00:13:28.160 as an abuse
00:13:30.100 of regulatory authority,
00:13:31.880 that the government
00:13:33.260 doesn't have the right
00:13:34.840 to yank a liquor license
00:13:36.800 based on this.
00:13:38.600 Maybe if you were
00:13:39.400 serving minors liquor,
00:13:40.980 that's another thing.
00:13:41.920 But this is all about
00:13:43.940 a vindictive way
00:13:45.320 to put somebody
00:13:46.820 out of business,
00:13:47.840 and I think that's wrong.
00:13:49.380 It's just because
00:13:51.160 they consider
00:13:51.720 the liquor license
00:13:52.840 as a privilege
00:13:53.960 for a restaurant.
00:13:56.200 So we give you
00:13:56.980 the privilege
00:13:57.580 to have a liquor license.
00:13:58.900 So because you don't
00:14:00.600 go on what
00:14:02.340 the government
00:14:02.840 say,
00:14:03.980 so we'll just
00:14:04.700 remove your privilege.
00:14:06.620 It's up to you.
00:14:08.560 It's why
00:14:09.440 I think
00:14:10.500 they should
00:14:12.080 bring back
00:14:13.100 the court case
00:14:15.640 about Maurice Duplessis
00:14:17.200 and say,
00:14:18.320 you see,
00:14:19.280 it was an
00:14:20.000 over-abused
00:14:21.020 power
00:14:21.760 in the past time.
00:14:23.520 Why now,
00:14:24.340 today,
00:14:25.520 that should be
00:14:26.660 okay?
00:14:27.040 Yeah,
00:14:28.740 no,
00:14:28.960 100%.
00:14:29.720 And thankfully,
00:14:31.980 Alexa,
00:14:32.280 you have brought
00:14:33.320 this back
00:14:33.920 as a talking point.
00:14:35.160 I'm not sure
00:14:35.920 how known
00:14:36.940 this scandal is
00:14:38.220 outside of Quebec,
00:14:39.520 but certainly
00:14:40.340 we're rehashing it
00:14:41.780 right now
00:14:42.300 and with good reason.
00:14:43.960 And again,
00:14:44.900 you know,
00:14:45.360 if we go back
00:14:46.200 to the 1940s,
00:14:47.600 what I'm trying
00:14:48.220 to figure out here,
00:14:49.440 Alexa,
00:14:50.320 there's such a small
00:14:52.020 number of Jehovah
00:14:52.940 Witnesses
00:14:53.620 in the first place.
00:14:55.000 Whether you love them
00:14:56.300 or loathe them,
00:14:57.860 who cares?
00:14:58.840 They have the right
00:14:59.940 to distribute
00:15:00.920 their literature.
00:15:02.080 What was Maurice Duplessis
00:15:03.700 thinking in the first place?
00:15:06.320 But I think
00:15:07.280 it's just because
00:15:08.120 they were going
00:15:09.060 against the clergy.
00:15:10.920 That was a big deal
00:15:12.320 at that time
00:15:13.200 because
00:15:13.760 Christianism
00:15:15.200 was the main
00:15:16.340 religion
00:15:18.220 who were following
00:15:19.360 as well
00:15:19.820 the government rule.
00:15:20.980 and now
00:15:22.220 we are in
00:15:22.960 a society
00:15:24.380 with a lot
00:15:25.260 of different
00:15:25.980 religions.
00:15:27.260 So what's the point?
00:15:28.920 Like,
00:15:29.280 it's just because
00:15:30.080 you don't follow
00:15:31.260 what the government
00:15:32.060 say.
00:15:33.020 It's the only point.
00:15:35.400 You were able
00:15:37.200 to be like
00:15:37.960 a motorbike person,
00:15:40.000 like a gang.
00:15:41.320 It would be the same.
00:15:42.720 Yeah.
00:15:43.460 But, you know,
00:15:44.160 I would argue,
00:15:45.240 Alexa,
00:15:45.920 that if we go,
00:15:47.280 if we look at Quebec,
00:15:48.240 you know,
00:15:48.480 certainly the Catholic Church
00:15:49.760 has been very prominent
00:15:50.900 in Quebec
00:15:51.420 over the decades.
00:15:53.040 And yet,
00:15:53.520 I would say that
00:15:54.580 if you can't handle
00:15:56.300 some criticism
00:15:57.300 from a very small
00:15:59.140 group of people,
00:16:01.080 well,
00:16:01.640 how strong
00:16:02.620 is your faith?
00:16:03.480 I mean,
00:16:03.720 you should be able
00:16:04.360 to shrug that off
00:16:05.280 like it's nothing.
00:16:06.140 But instead,
00:16:07.380 they jailed people.
00:16:08.620 They went after
00:16:09.280 a restaurateur
00:16:09.960 paying their legal fees.
00:16:11.900 Like I said,
00:16:12.840 the abuse
00:16:13.660 was so over the top
00:16:15.380 for such a
00:16:16.520 teeny tiny target.
00:16:19.140 Buddy,
00:16:19.660 it was a tyranny fear.
00:16:21.200 Like I will show
00:16:22.320 what I'm doing
00:16:23.080 with these people
00:16:24.200 who don't follow
00:16:25.180 my rule.
00:16:25.980 So you will see
00:16:27.060 what will happen
00:16:27.980 if you do it.
00:16:29.380 So they instill
00:16:30.340 like a fear
00:16:31.660 like environment.
00:16:33.540 So every people
00:16:34.560 will do like,
00:16:35.400 oh no,
00:16:35.940 okay,
00:16:36.300 I'm keeping like
00:16:38.140 following the rule.
00:16:40.480 No,
00:16:40.940 you're right.
00:16:41.440 Maybe it was all
00:16:42.220 about making an example
00:16:43.600 out of the Jehovah Witnesses
00:16:45.300 and telling everybody
00:16:46.080 else in the province,
00:16:47.060 you dare do
00:16:47.700 what they're doing
00:16:48.440 and we're coming
00:16:49.300 after you.
00:16:49.800 One last question,
00:16:51.080 Alexa,
00:16:51.840 when you were last here
00:16:52.820 in our head office
00:16:54.640 in Toronto,
00:16:55.740 you were talking
00:16:56.840 about some potential
00:16:58.160 legislation
00:16:59.040 that might be going
00:17:00.580 through in Quebec
00:17:01.940 and one was,
00:17:02.980 and I still can't
00:17:03.860 believe it,
00:17:04.800 it was Legault
00:17:06.480 trying to have
00:17:07.880 legislation
00:17:08.720 preventing people
00:17:10.100 from calling him
00:17:11.780 a dictator.
00:17:13.160 I can't get this
00:17:16.360 out without laughing,
00:17:17.380 it's so surreal.
00:17:19.040 What happened?
00:17:20.000 Did that get struck
00:17:20.920 from the legislation
00:17:21.900 or is he still
00:17:23.100 thinking about
00:17:23.920 doing something
00:17:24.580 like that?
00:17:25.900 So it was
00:17:26.860 during the project
00:17:28.640 of Law 105.
00:17:31.540 Actually,
00:17:32.360 he wanted
00:17:32.740 to remove
00:17:35.220 the right
00:17:35.760 to call him
00:17:36.580 a dictator
00:17:37.140 or talking
00:17:38.060 bad against him.
00:17:39.440 so Mr. D'Am
00:17:43.300 said,
00:17:43.820 okay,
00:17:44.360 so I can have
00:17:45.160 a board
00:17:45.720 writing,
00:17:46.500 I love Legault,
00:17:47.380 I want Legault,
00:17:48.520 but I cannot
00:17:49.220 have a board,
00:17:50.460 I want Legault out.
00:17:52.300 So he said
00:17:53.420 that actually
00:17:54.520 is stopping
00:17:56.120 free speech,
00:17:58.220 freedom of speech
00:17:59.000 and so it was
00:18:01.440 removed because
00:18:02.180 yeah,
00:18:02.660 it's the freedom
00:18:03.960 of speech.
00:18:04.560 You can say
00:18:05.100 whatever you want
00:18:06.040 because it's
00:18:07.300 what you actually
00:18:08.320 think,
00:18:09.440 so same
00:18:11.040 today,
00:18:11.600 if you have
00:18:12.140 just a board
00:18:12.880 writing like
00:18:14.800 something bad,
00:18:16.960 like if Legault
00:18:17.800 is a dictator
00:18:18.460 and you are
00:18:19.140 less than
00:18:20.240 50 meters
00:18:21.500 from a school
00:18:22.740 or like
00:18:24.060 a hospital,
00:18:28.080 you cannot
00:18:28.460 have a fine.
00:18:30.220 Just having
00:18:31.220 a board.
00:18:32.440 It's amazing,
00:18:33.620 you know,
00:18:33.960 it seems that
00:18:34.880 only Mr. Legault
00:18:36.480 is blind
00:18:37.180 to the irony
00:18:38.040 that the only
00:18:39.260 person that
00:18:40.580 would implement
00:18:41.380 a law saying
00:18:42.620 you're not
00:18:43.000 allowed to
00:18:43.700 call me a
00:18:44.260 dictator is
00:18:45.240 a dictator
00:18:46.360 in a dictatorship.
00:18:48.480 But,
00:18:48.840 oh my goodness,
00:18:49.840 well,
00:18:50.280 you know,
00:18:50.680 Alexa,
00:18:51.380 I love Quebec,
00:18:53.160 I love the people
00:18:53.820 of Quebec,
00:18:54.720 the people in
00:18:55.420 government,
00:18:56.240 many of the
00:18:56.700 law enforcement
00:18:57.340 personnel,
00:18:58.120 that's another
00:18:58.600 story,
00:18:59.460 but that was
00:19:00.060 an excellent
00:19:00.620 report of the
00:19:01.980 similarities of
00:19:03.440 today versus
00:19:04.260 the mid-1940s
00:19:05.960 and look forward
00:19:07.560 to your next
00:19:08.340 reports in the
00:19:09.280 days ahead.
00:19:10.620 Thank you very
00:19:11.220 much,
00:19:11.880 have a great
00:19:12.520 day.
00:19:13.220 You too,
00:19:13.740 Alexa,
00:19:14.060 and have a
00:19:14.460 great Thanksgiving.
00:19:17.020 And that was
00:19:17.880 Alexa Lavoie in
00:19:19.440 Quebec City.
00:19:20.320 Keep it here,
00:19:20.820 folks,
00:19:21.160 more of Rebel
00:19:21.740 Roundup to come
00:19:22.380 right after this.
00:19:28.940 Brian,
00:19:29.480 why don't you
00:19:29.880 tell us what
00:19:30.260 you were doing
00:19:30.820 when you got
00:19:31.220 your lockdown
00:19:31.680 ticket?
00:19:33.780 Okay,
00:19:34.220 long story short
00:19:35.100 was I was at
00:19:36.140 my Sobeys closest
00:19:38.200 to me,
00:19:38.800 which is in
00:19:39.260 Stellart in
00:19:39.680 Nova Scotia,
00:19:40.540 and it just
00:19:42.320 happened to be
00:19:42.880 the day,
00:19:43.580 it was April
00:19:44.780 30th,
00:19:45.460 and that was
00:19:46.020 when our,
00:19:47.980 the Nova Scotia
00:19:49.200 doctor,
00:19:50.160 Dr. Strang,
00:19:51.060 had issued
00:19:51.960 another lock,
00:19:53.120 a week of
00:19:53.560 lockdowns,
00:19:54.440 and that day
00:19:55.260 it had started.
00:19:56.880 So,
00:19:57.060 but I was in
00:19:57.520 shopping like
00:19:58.080 every other day
00:19:58.720 like I normally
00:19:59.300 do.
00:20:00.120 Mind you,
00:20:00.400 I have a mask
00:20:00.780 exemption,
00:20:01.300 so I was in
00:20:01.820 there without
00:20:02.100 a mask,
00:20:03.280 but,
00:20:03.640 you know,
00:20:03.760 I practiced
00:20:04.200 every other
00:20:04.780 rule,
00:20:05.180 you know,
00:20:05.440 keeping my
00:20:05.960 hands clean,
00:20:07.060 following the
00:20:07.540 arrows on the
00:20:08.100 line,
00:20:08.720 trying to keep,
00:20:09.280 you know,
00:20:09.440 six feet apart
00:20:10.100 from everybody
00:20:10.680 in the store,
00:20:11.420 which was quite
00:20:12.540 as hard that
00:20:12.980 day because it
00:20:13.560 was actually
00:20:13.940 quite busy
00:20:14.600 because I
00:20:15.100 believe a lot
00:20:15.620 of people
00:20:15.960 were there
00:20:16.340 doing panic
00:20:17.960 buying,
00:20:18.440 if you'd call
00:20:18.840 it,
00:20:19.020 because,
00:20:19.760 again,
00:20:20.080 it was just
00:20:20.540 issued that
00:20:21.020 that was the
00:20:21.360 first day of
00:20:21.920 another week
00:20:22.560 of lockdowns
00:20:23.400 issued by
00:20:24.140 Dr. Strang.
00:20:25.540 And as I
00:20:26.300 was going to
00:20:26.720 the grocery
00:20:27.060 store,
00:20:27.420 everything seemed
00:20:27.820 fine.
00:20:28.180 I went up
00:20:28.880 to the
00:20:29.120 checkout and
00:20:30.300 as I was
00:20:30.740 finishing paying
00:20:32.300 for my
00:20:32.680 groceries,
00:20:33.740 a Stullerton
00:20:34.180 police officer
00:20:34.860 approached me
00:20:35.680 and asked
00:20:38.200 to speak with
00:20:38.740 me.
00:20:39.120 So she
00:20:40.160 made it very
00:20:40.560 clear that I
00:20:41.080 was in the
00:20:41.380 store without
00:20:41.680 a mask and
00:20:42.300 that was one
00:20:42.660 of the
00:20:42.840 mandates.
00:20:43.600 She let me
00:20:44.080 finish paying
00:20:44.780 for my
00:20:45.240 groceries and
00:20:47.260 the conversation
00:20:48.140 carried on
00:20:48.760 outside,
00:20:49.760 at which time
00:20:50.780 I informed
00:20:51.440 her that I
00:20:52.140 had a medical
00:20:53.000 exemption and
00:20:54.120 that I didn't
00:20:54.540 have to wear
00:20:54.960 a mask.
00:20:56.100 And she
00:20:56.380 had asked
00:20:56.820 me what
00:20:57.460 was my
00:20:58.180 medical
00:20:58.720 exemption
00:20:59.340 for.
00:21:00.280 And I
00:21:01.500 just explained
00:21:02.120 to her that
00:21:02.440 I felt it
00:21:03.740 was my
00:21:04.080 privacy and
00:21:04.960 not actually
00:21:05.440 the law that
00:21:06.080 I reveal
00:21:06.640 sensitive medical
00:21:07.560 information.
00:21:08.900 And then she
00:21:09.380 asked me to
00:21:09.800 wait in my
00:21:10.120 car because she
00:21:10.600 wanted to
00:21:10.920 speak to
00:21:11.480 somebody in
00:21:12.260 the store.
00:21:12.700 I guess it
00:21:12.960 was a staff
00:21:13.480 member, the
00:21:14.480 produce manager,
00:21:15.360 I do believe.
00:21:16.600 And her
00:21:17.220 colleague at
00:21:17.880 that same
00:21:18.280 time, her
00:21:18.960 partner showed
00:21:20.760 up.
00:21:21.800 And within
00:21:22.620 about 10
00:21:23.040 minutes, they
00:21:23.420 came out to
00:21:23.800 my car and
00:21:24.460 he himself
00:21:25.260 asked me again,
00:21:26.040 he said, you
00:21:26.440 know, you have
00:21:27.280 a medical
00:21:27.620 exemption.
00:21:28.180 I said, yes,
00:21:28.740 I reiterated
00:21:29.420 that.
00:21:29.740 He said, well,
00:21:30.160 what for?
00:21:30.640 And I said, I'm
00:21:31.100 not going to
00:21:31.840 tell you that.
00:21:33.100 And then he
00:21:33.860 said, well, do
00:21:34.240 you have a
00:21:34.560 note or any
00:21:35.160 medical information
00:21:35.920 on you that
00:21:36.380 would show
00:21:37.320 proof that
00:21:37.940 you're exempt?
00:21:38.900 I said, no,
00:21:39.760 not on me.
00:21:40.620 But I said, I
00:21:41.220 could get
00:21:41.980 something from
00:21:42.820 my doctor stating
00:21:44.180 that I am
00:21:44.840 exempt.
00:21:45.620 I didn't know I
00:21:46.120 had to carry
00:21:46.540 that.
00:21:47.360 The police
00:21:48.280 informed me that,
00:21:49.000 yes, you do
00:21:49.500 have to show
00:21:50.060 proof, even if
00:21:51.260 it is a note.
00:21:51.840 I said, okay,
00:21:52.260 that's new to
00:21:52.740 me.
00:21:53.520 But I said,
00:21:53.960 what I'm
00:21:54.280 willing to do
00:21:55.120 is show you
00:21:55.660 guys that letter
00:21:56.400 at a later date.
00:21:57.160 Is that okay?
00:21:57.760 He said, well,
00:21:58.380 do you have it
00:21:58.840 on you now?
00:21:59.720 I don't know why
00:22:00.200 he would ask me
00:22:00.640 that because we
00:22:01.100 just went through
00:22:01.460 that.
00:22:01.640 I said, no,
00:22:02.080 again, I don't
00:22:02.640 have any proof
00:22:03.220 on me now.
00:22:04.080 And he said,
00:22:04.660 well, no,
00:22:05.220 unfortunately,
00:22:05.620 you're going to
00:22:05.980 get a ticket.
00:22:06.440 So the female
00:22:09.540 officer proceeded
00:22:10.260 to write the
00:22:10.880 ticket, gave me
00:22:11.860 the ticket, told
00:22:12.860 me what my
00:22:13.280 options were, and
00:22:14.540 it was for a
00:22:14.980 ticket of $1,000.
00:22:16.600 I even got my
00:22:17.540 local MLA
00:22:18.580 involved who was
00:22:21.160 aware of my
00:22:21.680 medical exemption
00:22:22.300 who contacted
00:22:23.400 the police
00:22:26.120 department and
00:22:26.680 let them know,
00:22:27.200 listen, I know
00:22:27.800 we didn't have
00:22:28.220 any proof on
00:22:28.740 him at the
00:22:28.980 time, but our
00:22:30.700 office can vouch
00:22:31.480 for Mr.
00:22:32.000 Landrieu and say
00:22:32.720 that he has a
00:22:33.300 medical exemption
00:22:34.000 during this time
00:22:35.080 of the ticket.
00:22:35.480 And, you
00:22:36.520 know, could
00:22:36.780 this ticket,
00:22:37.280 could this be
00:22:37.700 resolved?
00:22:38.240 Like, could it
00:22:38.540 be rescinded?
00:22:39.500 And they said,
00:22:40.280 no, they said
00:22:40.880 it's going to
00:22:41.100 be passed on
00:22:41.600 to the crown.
00:22:42.420 It'll be in
00:22:42.760 the crown's
00:22:43.140 hands and then
00:22:44.180 they can kind
00:22:45.080 of deal with
00:22:45.520 it, right?
00:22:45.980 So at that
00:22:47.180 point, I'm a
00:22:49.340 single father and
00:22:50.460 my income is like
00:22:52.500 a lot of
00:22:52.860 people's is just,
00:22:55.580 you know, making
00:22:56.100 ends meet some
00:22:56.860 months, right?
00:22:57.440 And I thought
00:22:57.880 to myself, you
00:22:58.540 know, I have a
00:22:59.020 medical exemption
00:22:59.640 and I don't
00:23:01.500 believe this should
00:23:02.220 have been done
00:23:02.640 this way, but I
00:23:03.820 need some help.
00:23:04.600 And being a
00:23:05.960 rebel subscriber
00:23:06.820 and I knew you
00:23:08.860 guys had fight
00:23:09.460 to find, so I
00:23:10.320 thought I'll
00:23:11.120 fill out the
00:23:11.580 application, go
00:23:12.900 from there, had
00:23:13.820 my fingers crossed
00:23:14.620 and lots of
00:23:15.080 prayers and I
00:23:15.580 said, I hope
00:23:15.920 they can, I hope
00:23:16.740 rebel can come to
00:23:17.420 my rescue.
00:23:18.140 And come to his
00:23:19.480 rescue is precisely
00:23:20.900 what we did.
00:23:22.400 Indeed, our legal
00:23:23.300 team saved Brian
00:23:24.900 Landrieu from having
00:23:26.320 to pay a $1,000
00:23:27.700 fine and we saved
00:23:29.800 him from the
00:23:30.760 stupidity and
00:23:32.020 ignorance of a
00:23:33.300 police officer and
00:23:34.320 a store manager
00:23:35.140 who were demanding
00:23:36.460 information that
00:23:38.040 they had absolutely
00:23:39.280 no right to see.
00:23:41.480 It just goes on
00:23:43.000 and on, doesn't
00:23:43.820 it, folks?
00:23:44.720 And joining me now
00:23:45.680 for more on this
00:23:46.700 egregious story,
00:23:47.780 albeit one with a
00:23:48.580 happy ending, is
00:23:49.740 Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:23:51.160 How you doing there,
00:23:51.900 Sheila?
00:23:52.860 David, I'm great.
00:23:53.860 Thanks for having me
00:23:54.480 on the show.
00:23:55.140 Always a pleasure.
00:23:56.300 Sheila, Brian seems
00:23:58.020 like such a down-to-earth,
00:24:00.040 super nice guy.
00:24:01.080 He doesn't strike me
00:24:02.880 as the sort who is,
00:24:04.080 you know, wearing
00:24:04.880 trouble on his shirt.
00:24:06.380 You know, he's not
00:24:07.000 going into the grocery
00:24:07.920 store, you know, to
00:24:09.260 cause trouble.
00:24:09.940 He's just doing some
00:24:10.660 shopping.
00:24:11.640 But the maddening thing
00:24:13.120 here is this.
00:24:14.880 We are more than a
00:24:15.940 year and a half into
00:24:16.900 this bloody pandemic
00:24:18.140 and yet even now,
00:24:20.320 people who should know
00:24:21.300 better, i.e.
00:24:22.340 law enforcement
00:24:23.080 officers, are still
00:24:25.260 clearly ignorant of
00:24:26.720 the laws that they
00:24:28.160 are entrusted to
00:24:29.100 enforce.
00:24:29.860 Sheila, what gives?
00:24:31.800 Well, that's the
00:24:32.500 thing.
00:24:32.800 Like, if Brian didn't
00:24:34.180 have fight the fines,
00:24:36.000 Brian probably would
00:24:37.020 have just paid the
00:24:37.760 ticket.
00:24:38.580 And Brian's just a
00:24:39.840 regular guy.
00:24:40.460 That's a lot of money
00:24:41.300 for anybody, really,
00:24:43.360 to just make the
00:24:46.400 ticket go away.
00:24:47.740 But that's, for us,
00:24:49.280 that's not the right
00:24:50.360 thing to do because
00:24:51.660 Brian didn't do
00:24:52.740 anything wrong.
00:24:53.820 Having a medical
00:24:54.560 condition or any
00:24:56.040 condition that prevents
00:24:57.840 you from wearing a
00:24:58.700 mask is not a crime
00:25:00.020 in this country.
00:25:01.080 And if you need to
00:25:02.920 get groceries, you
00:25:03.940 shouldn't have to
00:25:04.560 choose between risking
00:25:05.960 my physical health or
00:25:07.660 my mental health to put
00:25:09.320 on this mask to go get
00:25:10.840 groceries.
00:25:11.180 You should just be able
00:25:12.500 to do what you need to
00:25:13.600 do.
00:25:13.880 And everybody else should
00:25:16.480 just mind their business.
00:25:18.960 You see, that's where
00:25:20.680 most of the problems of
00:25:22.160 the pandemic come from,
00:25:23.560 right?
00:25:24.200 Somebody not minding
00:25:25.300 their business and just
00:25:27.160 worrying about what
00:25:28.440 they're doing.
00:25:29.400 Somebody worried about
00:25:30.620 what Brian was doing and
00:25:32.280 why Brian wasn't wearing
00:25:33.880 a mask.
00:25:34.280 So they called the cops and
00:25:35.800 then put Brian through this
00:25:37.060 big ordeal.
00:25:37.880 And then we had to step in
00:25:39.600 and help Brian fight his
00:25:41.220 ticket thanks to a
00:25:42.600 partnership with the
00:25:43.400 Democracy Fund and
00:25:44.900 everybody's generous
00:25:45.820 donations.
00:25:46.980 But that's where it seems
00:25:48.640 to me that all the
00:25:49.360 problems of the pandemic
00:25:50.160 come from.
00:25:51.180 Just worry about what
00:25:53.240 you're doing in a grocery
00:25:54.340 store.
00:25:54.840 And if you see somebody
00:25:55.760 who's not wearing a mask,
00:25:57.780 keep going.
00:25:59.020 Smile under your mask and
00:26:00.700 keep going because you
00:26:01.720 don't know what that
00:26:02.540 person is going through.
00:26:03.560 You know, we've discussed
00:26:05.240 this before, Sheila, this
00:26:06.780 pandemic, these, this is
00:26:08.760 the salad day time for the
00:26:11.060 COVID Karens out there.
00:26:12.880 And I'm not being sexist
00:26:14.380 with that language.
00:26:15.080 If it's a male acting that
00:26:16.820 way, I also call him a
00:26:18.580 COVID Karen.
00:26:19.560 The fact that they love
00:26:21.840 ratting out people, they
00:26:23.320 love lecturing people.
00:26:25.220 And we've seen videos,
00:26:26.580 haven't we, Sheila, where
00:26:27.420 you're in a dollar store
00:26:28.860 or what have you, and
00:26:29.640 somebody's running up to an
00:26:31.180 unmatched shopper saying,
00:26:32.760 you're putting my life at
00:26:33.880 risk.
00:26:34.220 But they're getting in
00:26:35.380 their grill as opposed to
00:26:37.200 if they really believed
00:26:38.100 that, you'd be walking
00:26:39.820 away.
00:26:40.420 But by the same token,
00:26:42.940 law enforcement, surely by
00:26:45.120 now, should know the rules.
00:26:47.240 They should know that we do
00:26:50.380 not have the right to ask
00:26:52.720 for your papers, please.
00:26:54.700 Maybe they're going to
00:26:55.300 change that.
00:26:56.240 So why is this still going
00:26:57.600 on?
00:26:58.000 They must know what the lay
00:27:00.640 of the land is by now,
00:27:01.760 Sheila.
00:27:02.760 Do you know, I was
00:27:03.340 talking to Brian's fight
00:27:04.460 the fines lawyer, Christina,
00:27:05.940 this morning on another
00:27:07.400 case.
00:27:08.220 Stay tuned.
00:27:09.000 That's a huge one.
00:27:10.000 You won't even believe how
00:27:11.000 bad that one is.
00:27:12.180 And she said that part of
00:27:14.720 the problem is that these
00:27:16.380 rules are changing so fast
00:27:18.860 all the time that you can't
00:27:21.860 expect even law enforcement
00:27:23.340 to know them, let alone the
00:27:25.220 people who are trying to
00:27:26.380 stay on the right side of
00:27:27.420 them.
00:27:27.600 And so that's part of the
00:27:28.960 problem here.
00:27:29.600 But I don't think that
00:27:30.920 that's the real problem
00:27:32.320 here, because I think most
00:27:34.500 cops know that there are
00:27:36.040 people out there who can't
00:27:37.460 wear a mask for whatever
00:27:38.920 reason.
00:27:39.360 And then when they tell you
00:27:40.780 that, that's where it should
00:27:42.280 stop, because they're really
00:27:43.720 not putting anybody else in
00:27:45.180 danger.
00:27:46.160 One of the things that I
00:27:46.980 despise about the the
00:27:48.960 pandemic is.
00:27:51.040 Like, if your mask works,
00:27:53.000 why doesn't it work?
00:27:53.860 Like, if your mask works,
00:27:55.040 what do you care if I'm not
00:27:55.960 wearing one?
00:27:56.480 If your vaccine works, what
00:27:58.100 do you care if I'm not
00:27:58.920 vaccinated?
00:27:59.980 But it's it's not about
00:28:02.380 efficacy.
00:28:03.540 It's not about science.
00:28:05.160 It's that we all must agree
00:28:07.420 all the time on all these
00:28:10.000 issues.
00:28:10.460 And if we all don't agree,
00:28:12.760 then the cops are going to
00:28:14.140 make us all agree.
00:28:15.060 Apparently, that's how it
00:28:16.100 works.
00:28:16.360 And and you're so right about
00:28:17.840 this whole idea now that we
00:28:19.920 must produce papers, that we
00:28:21.720 have to tell perfect strangers
00:28:23.060 our our private medical
00:28:24.920 history.
00:28:25.400 I've taken to putting this
00:28:27.620 all into context.
00:28:28.540 I call these people medical
00:28:30.340 voyeurs or public health
00:28:33.120 peeping toms because that's
00:28:34.400 really what they are.
00:28:35.200 If they were looking in your
00:28:36.180 window to find out.
00:28:38.660 Are they wearing a mask?
00:28:40.220 What is their medical history?
00:28:41.760 You would call the cops on
00:28:42.960 them.
00:28:43.420 But now they're calling the
00:28:44.360 cops on you because you
00:28:45.300 won't tell them what your
00:28:46.440 medical history is.
00:28:48.040 Oh, and Sheila, you know,
00:28:49.380 there is a surreal element to
00:28:52.020 this, don't you find?
00:28:52.940 And I mean, I think back to a
00:28:55.020 few months ago, a story I did
00:28:56.280 on a Toronto home hardware
00:28:58.060 store that shooed out a
00:28:59.480 customer who purposely went
00:29:01.160 there to give the little home
00:29:02.240 hardware store business as
00:29:03.420 opposed to the big box just
00:29:05.180 two clicks away.
00:29:07.080 And he pointed out that right
00:29:09.320 on the sign in their own
00:29:10.460 window, there is an
00:29:12.620 exemption, a medical exemption
00:29:14.300 for customers.
00:29:15.080 And the home hardware employee
00:29:17.260 went into the store, came back
00:29:19.200 out and duct taped over the
00:29:22.340 law on the sign, which you're
00:29:23.880 not allowed to do.
00:29:24.720 And then, of course, an added
00:29:26.640 layer of surreality was one of
00:29:30.440 our very first fight the fines
00:29:31.900 stories.
00:29:32.720 It was yours, Sheila.
00:29:34.420 Also, also out on the East
00:29:36.220 Coast, the senior citizen in his
00:29:39.400 car by himself at a Tim Hortons
00:29:42.260 parking lot that had a window
00:29:45.060 rolled up windows rolled up
00:29:46.840 that had a very rude RCMP
00:29:51.280 officer read him the riot act
00:29:54.380 and give him a ticket.
00:29:56.360 You know, Sheila, I don't know
00:29:57.760 where I'm going with this other
00:29:58.900 than have people lost their
00:30:00.660 minds during this pandemic?
00:30:02.980 You know, Walter Matheson's
00:30:04.800 story, we should have paid
00:30:05.920 closer attention to it because it
00:30:07.360 was a harbinger of things to
00:30:08.560 come.
00:30:08.940 Yes.
00:30:09.260 At the time, we thought it was
00:30:10.440 ridiculous that a man sitting
00:30:11.780 alone in his car with the
00:30:13.040 windows rolled up eating a
00:30:14.200 muffin would somehow be a danger
00:30:15.480 to public health.
00:30:16.180 But now we have the federal
00:30:17.480 government mandating vaccines
00:30:19.140 for federal employees who work
00:30:20.900 from home and people who work
00:30:22.600 in federally regulated industries
00:30:24.680 from home, like doing remote
00:30:28.020 tech help for a telecom company
00:30:31.000 like Rogers or Telus.
00:30:32.320 Those people all have to get
00:30:33.620 vaccines now because it's a
00:30:36.080 federally regulated industry and
00:30:37.600 they might not ever come in
00:30:39.180 contact with another co-worker
00:30:41.120 physically speaking during their
00:30:43.700 entire employment.
00:30:45.340 But now the federal government
00:30:47.200 says they too have to be
00:30:48.460 vaccinated and it doesn't make
00:30:50.340 any sense because they are alone
00:30:52.080 and we should have paid closer
00:30:53.340 attention to Walter Matheson's
00:30:55.140 case at the time because it
00:30:56.580 doesn't matter if you're alone.
00:30:58.300 Apparently, you can be alone in a
00:30:59.720 car with the windows rolled up and
00:31:00.980 be a public health danger.
00:31:02.500 Likewise, you can be sitting at
00:31:03.680 your kitchen table working on your
00:31:05.000 work computer, just you and the
00:31:06.300 dog and a cup of coffee.
00:31:07.860 And according to Justin Trudeau,
00:31:09.640 you are also a public health
00:31:10.940 danger.
00:31:11.920 Unbelievable.
00:31:12.740 Well, Sheila, this story has a
00:31:14.680 happy ending and good for Brian.
00:31:16.140 I mean, he's a single father.
00:31:17.720 As he mentioned in your interview,
00:31:19.080 some months he's just making ends
00:31:21.200 meet.
00:31:21.980 A thousand dollars is a very big
00:31:24.620 deal indeed to Brian.
00:31:26.280 And I'm so glad we helped him.
00:31:28.620 And one last point, Sheila, if any
00:31:30.480 of our viewers want to help us with
00:31:32.960 his legal fees, where do they go to
00:31:35.080 make a donation if they're able?
00:31:36.300 They can go to fightthefines.com.
00:31:39.780 All donations there now qualify for a
00:31:41.700 charitable tax receipt through our
00:31:43.080 partnership with the Registered
00:31:44.300 Canadian Charity, the Democracy Fund.
00:31:46.760 And let me just thank everybody who
00:31:48.560 donates and continues to donate because
00:31:50.720 you may not get to speak to the people
00:31:52.800 who are being helped through Fight the
00:31:54.920 Fines.
00:31:55.560 But while I mean, in this pandemic, you
00:31:59.240 might feel like you can't change the
00:32:01.100 world.
00:32:01.320 The world is sort of changing for the
00:32:03.000 worse.
00:32:03.380 And you feel like you can't change
00:32:05.100 the world.
00:32:05.440 But let me tell you, your donations
00:32:07.420 are changing the world for people
00:32:10.660 like Brian, because if he had to pay
00:32:12.380 a thousand dollar ticket, it would
00:32:13.480 have been a catastrophe.
00:32:15.340 And because he didn't have to, through
00:32:17.320 your generosity, he can carry on, take
00:32:20.040 care of his kids and take care of
00:32:21.480 himself.
00:32:21.860 So that is the difference of the
00:32:23.700 Fight the Fines program and the
00:32:25.460 Democracy Fund and all of you at home.
00:32:27.920 A hundred percent.
00:32:28.520 And basically, Sheila, who else is
00:32:31.240 going to bat for these people that
00:32:32.960 are being victimized and bullied by
00:32:35.560 law enforcement people that really
00:32:37.320 should know better?
00:32:38.760 Sheila, you have a wonderful
00:32:40.060 Thanksgiving with your family and we
00:32:42.820 will chat next week.
00:32:45.040 I will.
00:32:45.400 I'm going to be breaking all the
00:32:46.980 gathering rules, too.
00:32:48.620 Yeah, that's right.
00:32:50.480 Or Vaxgiving, as Mayor John Tory calls
00:32:53.440 it in these parts.
00:32:54.300 Unbelievable.
00:32:55.200 Thank you so much, Sheila.
00:32:56.860 Hi, David.
00:32:57.340 And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:32:59.980 somewhere in the northern hinterland
00:33:01.660 of Alberta.
00:33:02.380 Keep it here, folks.
00:33:03.200 More of Rebel Roundup to come right
00:33:04.840 after this.
00:33:10.520 When we try to reverse engineer
00:33:13.260 this, Rick, what is behind all this?
00:33:16.700 Is it necessarily Premier Doug Ford or
00:33:19.380 is it Corey T'Nike, who has
00:33:22.380 apparently the ear of the Premier and
00:33:24.560 is also the lobbyist?
00:33:27.420 He runs Rubicon.
00:33:29.840 He has several pharmaceutical clients,
00:33:32.980 including, I believe, Pfizer and
00:33:34.520 AstraZeneca.
00:33:35.700 And I understand you had discussions
00:33:38.740 with him when you were still in
00:33:39.960 caucus.
00:33:40.760 Didn't go nicely, did it?
00:33:42.340 You know, I noticed that several times
00:33:43.980 during caucus when I would question
00:33:46.000 the science table or I would question
00:33:49.200 ministers on the direction that we were
00:33:51.440 headed, one time I actually caught him
00:33:54.220 because we were doing these Zoom
00:33:55.580 meetings, caught him just shaking his
00:33:58.480 head negatively.
00:34:00.180 And I thought, oh, okay, so he's not
00:34:01.800 agreeing with what I'm saying.
00:34:03.380 And however, you know, I challenged.
00:34:05.500 I stood up for children.
00:34:07.220 I stood up for, you know, the reasons.
00:34:09.180 Why are we doing these vax passes?
00:34:11.220 Why are we doing, you know, all of this
00:34:13.240 vaccination per se?
00:34:14.660 I said, listen, I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
00:34:16.240 But again, I want to reiterate, though,
00:34:18.140 that now you have companies, just
00:34:20.000 because John Tory came out the day
00:34:22.200 after I was removed from caucus, he
00:34:24.980 said that he was going to make it
00:34:26.360 mandatory for all public service
00:34:29.180 workers for the City of Toronto.
00:34:31.260 They had to be vaccinated by a certain
00:34:33.420 date, I believe around in October
00:34:35.480 sometime.
00:34:36.540 And if not, they were going to be
00:34:37.720 fired.
00:34:38.480 Well, excuse me, you know, what makes
00:34:40.740 you so almighty?
00:34:42.280 And so I had some real serious
00:34:43.680 concerns about that.
00:34:44.420 But here's the downside, further
00:34:46.120 downside.
00:34:47.160 You know, a lot of municipalities
00:34:48.220 decided, well, then if John Tory's
00:34:50.020 doing it, perhaps maybe the thinking
00:34:51.600 was we better do it, too.
00:34:53.540 And I'm thinking, what changed from
00:34:55.240 yesterday to today?
00:34:56.640 Really and truly.
00:34:57.520 Our workplaces were safe.
00:34:58.780 We had proper COVID protocols in
00:35:00.820 place.
00:35:01.240 People were working.
00:35:02.220 People were happy.
00:35:03.520 You take a look at our health care
00:35:04.660 situation right now and you look at
00:35:06.880 the nurses who these nurses for
00:35:09.500 18 months, 18 to 20 months, they
00:35:12.480 would go in and they would care for
00:35:14.040 these people.
00:35:14.840 Most of them had the COVID
00:35:16.360 patients had additional
00:35:18.000 comorbidities.
00:35:20.400 And yet, you know, and they wore the
00:35:21.780 proper PPE, but they weren't
00:35:23.620 vaccinated.
00:35:24.700 And very few of them ever caught
00:35:26.280 sick, you know.
00:35:27.360 And then all of a sudden now they
00:35:29.280 have to be vaccinated or else
00:35:31.240 they're going to be fired.
00:35:32.500 You go from hero to zero.
00:35:34.520 And that's not right.
00:35:36.060 And now it's affecting even
00:35:37.240 children, too.
00:35:38.200 You know, you're absolutely right,
00:35:39.300 Rick.
00:35:39.500 I mean, they were the frontline
00:35:40.520 hero celebrated for last year and a
00:35:42.740 half and how they've become modern
00:35:44.720 day typhoid Marys, if you will.
00:35:47.520 It's despicable.
00:35:48.560 But I understand when you had
00:35:50.440 conversations with Corey, he used
00:35:53.920 language that I thought was very
00:35:56.240 inflammatory.
00:35:57.760 I think he, and please correct me if
00:35:59.400 I'm wrong, he called you a cookie
00:36:01.300 conspiracy theorist.
00:36:03.060 He said the party would be better off
00:36:05.400 without you than with you in the
00:36:07.900 party.
00:36:08.140 Corey, I'm staggered by that.
00:36:10.200 In the brief time we've known each
00:36:11.460 other, I think you're a man of
00:36:12.640 principle.
00:36:13.240 I think you're a good man.
00:36:15.260 Why would he say this?
00:36:17.600 Well, that's an excellent question.
00:36:19.080 I don't know why he would say this.
00:36:20.960 He has obviously his own agenda and
00:36:23.340 he has people in caucus that I think
00:36:25.080 that he would like to see removed.
00:36:27.020 And so he does what in football, they
00:36:29.600 call it a straight arm.
00:36:31.420 And of course, I'm sure that that's
00:36:32.920 exactly what he's doing.
00:36:34.400 He has the ear of Premier Ford.
00:36:35.840 And of course, it's not just him.
00:36:38.220 There are others that perhaps have
00:36:40.520 comments and thoughts with regards
00:36:43.400 to caucus members.
00:36:44.760 But I was appalled at the fact that he
00:36:47.600 would actually bully me, telling me you
00:36:50.700 have 72 hours to get vaccinated or
00:36:53.260 you're going to be sitting with the
00:36:54.220 independents.
00:36:55.180 So you either better have a very good
00:36:56.840 medical exemption, reason why you
00:36:59.580 cannot get the vaccine or you're going
00:37:02.060 to be gone.
00:37:02.640 And I tried to reason with him and
00:37:03.880 he'd have nothing to do with it at all.
00:37:05.700 He says, I don't care.
00:37:06.760 He said, 72 hours.
00:37:08.980 Not by 5 o'clock on Thursday.
00:37:11.220 That was back on the Monday.
00:37:13.080 Then, of course, then I'm sitting in
00:37:15.420 the independent side and the rest is
00:37:16.860 history.
00:37:17.260 Here I am sitting in the independent
00:37:18.400 side.
00:37:19.200 Never been freer to speak my mind over
00:37:21.760 the last three plus years than right
00:37:23.720 now.
00:37:24.500 Well, that must feel good.
00:37:25.540 But I think, Rick, as always, as we
00:37:27.680 say in this business, follow the money.
00:37:29.400 And certainly what's good for
00:37:31.560 AstraZeneca and good for Pfizer, i.e.
00:37:34.380 mandatory jabbing policies is very good
00:37:37.740 for Rubicon and extremely good for the
00:37:40.620 co-founder of Rubicon.
00:37:42.040 And that would be one, Corey, tonight.
00:37:44.380 Is that what this is all about, perhaps?
00:37:46.540 Well, again, you have to follow the money
00:37:48.720 on that one.
00:37:49.540 Might one might perceive that that is, in
00:37:52.800 fact, the case because a lot of the things
00:37:55.080 that have been happening and a lot of the
00:37:56.480 rules and regulations, even here at
00:37:58.040 Queens Park, don't make a lot of sense.
00:38:00.160 Yes, follow the money indeed.
00:38:03.280 How sad that a MPP standing up for
00:38:06.240 principles is booted from caucus and then
00:38:09.900 has to relinquish his deputy speaker gig.
00:38:13.380 Yet Premier Doug Ford, well, he's only too
00:38:16.020 happy to do the bidding of a powerful
00:38:18.120 lobbyist representing Big Pharma.
00:38:20.420 And surely it is only a coincidence that
00:38:24.360 Ford is now all in when it comes to
00:38:27.060 mandatory vaccinations.
00:38:28.400 Whereas he used to say he was dead set
00:38:31.900 against such coercion.
00:38:34.040 Unbelievable.
00:38:35.120 In any event, you had plenty to say about
00:38:37.640 the fate of Rick Nichols and the fact that
00:38:40.380 an unelected lobbyist seemingly has the
00:38:43.540 Premier doing all his bidding.
00:38:47.360 In Finlor writes, none of this is legal.
00:38:51.400 How is it just constantly rolling ahead
00:38:54.140 without any pushback?
00:38:55.600 Well, in Corrie tonight, we have a
00:38:58.240 lobbyist for Big Pharma who enjoys a very
00:39:01.460 cozy relationship with the Premier.
00:39:03.840 A Premier who, of course, would go on to do a
00:39:05.980 policy flip-flop and mandate the compulsory
00:39:09.280 injection of certain Big Pharma products.
00:39:13.040 If you want the full rights and freedoms of
00:39:15.460 citizenship, that is.
00:39:17.140 In my eyes, this is immoral and unethical.
00:39:20.080 But hey, maybe there is indeed a case to be made here
00:39:23.500 regarding illegal influence peddling.
00:39:27.080 So who knows?
00:39:28.020 Maybe one day this will indeed be headed to a courtroom.
00:39:32.140 Stay tuned.
00:39:33.500 Sheila Chapman writes,
00:39:34.860 Doug Ford is something else.
00:39:37.200 Please, people from Ontario, never let him back in.
00:39:40.520 We need a new Premier.
00:39:41.960 His business is open during a pandemic,
00:39:44.960 selling decals and pandemic stuff.
00:39:47.440 Yeah, sounds about right.
00:39:49.360 That and cheesecake.
00:39:51.600 Wow.
00:39:52.380 Doug will never live down that cherry cheesecake video, eh?
00:39:56.140 And you are right, Sheila.
00:39:58.280 The pandemic has been very good for his company,
00:40:00.680 Deco Labels, which has never shut down
00:40:03.260 to the best of my knowledge.
00:40:04.960 But the problem is this.
00:40:07.180 The progressive conservative government
00:40:08.940 has done an awful job managing the pandemic.
00:40:12.340 And I have met scores of people who voted PC back in 2018
00:40:16.960 who will definitely not be voting PC in 2022.
00:40:21.200 But if the Liberals or the NDP were in charge,
00:40:24.100 would things really be any better?
00:40:26.400 Talk about being between a rock
00:40:28.180 and a stale slice of cherry cheesecake.
00:40:32.040 Kevin Wants to Shred writes,
00:40:34.180 Well said, Kevin.
00:40:43.620 But in Doug Ford's government,
00:40:45.320 the slogan that is embraced
00:40:46.900 seems to be that lyric from the song
00:40:49.200 Home on the Range, you know,
00:40:50.820 where seldom is heard a discouraging word.
00:40:54.020 Because if you dare voice
00:40:55.820 a contrarian opinion to Premier Dofo,
00:40:59.320 you are kicked out of caucus,
00:41:01.120 just ask Rick Nichols and Belinda Carajalios
00:41:04.620 and Randy Hillier and Roman Baber.
00:41:08.740 And I'm sure I'm missing a few others
00:41:10.680 that were abruptly showing the door.
00:41:13.380 Yet meanwhile, Ford has plenty of time
00:41:16.220 for the unelected Corey Tanek.
00:41:19.140 After all, Corey represents clients
00:41:21.200 that earn billions of dollars.
00:41:23.780 And apparently in Ford's Ontario,
00:41:26.300 money talks and contrarian MPPs walk.
00:41:31.780 And Old School writes,
00:41:33.380 So in 10 years from now,
00:41:35.340 no one will be hired
00:41:36.480 because they are unvaxxed?
00:41:38.740 Well, Old School,
00:41:39.760 if you are not getting the COVID-19 vaccine,
00:41:42.560 that is certainly going to be harmful
00:41:44.600 to your economic health.
00:41:46.860 Every day here at Rebel News,
00:41:48.780 we get emails from people
00:41:50.480 who are being threatened with termination
00:41:52.640 or have already been fired.
00:41:54.780 Meanwhile, I'm sure business
00:41:56.640 has never been better at Rubicon.
00:41:58.360 I can only ponder how many millions
00:42:01.520 Corey Tanek is raking in
00:42:03.640 thanks to his puppet premier,
00:42:05.920 Doug Ford,
00:42:07.100 mandating vaccines
00:42:08.440 that are being manufactured
00:42:09.780 by Corey's big pharma clients.
00:42:13.500 Sickening.
00:42:14.560 Well, that wraps up
00:42:15.780 another edition of Rebel Roundup.
00:42:17.580 Thanks so much for joining us.
00:42:19.140 See you next week.
00:42:20.500 Have a happy Thanksgiving.
00:42:21.980 And hey, folks,
00:42:22.960 never forget,
00:42:23.840 without risk,
00:42:25.160 there can be no glory.
00:42:26.500 Good night.
00:42:26.920 Good night.
00:42:26.960 Good night.