DAVID MENZIES ｜ Vaccine Passport Tyranny, Future of the PPC
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Summary
The People s Party of Canada has failed to capture any seats in the federal election, but it is certainly a force to contend with moving forward. Alex Lavoey talks to Maxime Bernier about why he believes the PPC is the only true conservative party in Canada. Sheila Gunn-Reed tries to make sense of the anti-vaccination protests in Edmonton. And Erin O'Toole has some thoughts on why she thinks the People's Party is splitting the vote.
Transcript
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Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back
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at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite rebels.
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Well, one of the most compelling sidebar stories of the 2021 federal election campaign was the
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rise in popularity of the People's Party of Canada, much to the chagrin, no doubt, of
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But it is certainly a force to contend with moving forward.
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Alexa Lavoie was in Beaux-Quebec on Monday night to interview PPC leader Maxime Bernier,
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who maintains that the PPC is the true Conservative Party.
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And really, folks, you won't get any argument from me on that one.
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In any event, Alexa joins me to weigh in on the future of the PPC.
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Well, many Edmontonians had plenty to say about the tyranny of vaccine passports at a large
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demonstration, and Sheila Gunn-Reed was there to cover it.
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Sheila joins me to try and make sense of it all.
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And wow, you had plenty to say about Aaron O'Toole's last campaign stop in Markham, Ontario,
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Spoiler alert, O'Toole hid in his bus when he saw me, making him half an hour late for his
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own event, and then his lackeys forced me to cover the event from a live lane of traffic.
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I'm just wondering if you are satisfied of your campaign, same if the mainstream media
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And, you know, my message was very strong for more freedom and less government.
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But I'm very happy that in Canada we have independent media.
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And all the media must be independent and not dependent on the government.
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As you know, we will cut the CBC and all the funding going to media.
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We want them to be able to compete fairly against the traditional and independent media.
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But that being said, we use social media a lot and we're able to have huge rallies here
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and across the country, in the east, in New Brunswick, in Vancouver, all across the
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And why did you choose Saskatoon for your main light conference, please?
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Yeah, because, you know, we wanted to do something inside without masks.
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And when we choose Saskatoon here in Saskatchewan, that was the only province that didn't have
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And, you know, they don't respect the regulations here.
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But some of them, and we are expecting people that are wearing a mask.
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But we decided that here, we wanted to be in Western Canada because we have a lot of support
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And especially because you are the only party right now, I think, who conserved their event
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tonight because the other one didn't do their event because they wanted to follow the health
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I wanted to be with our people, to watch the result.
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How many seats do you think you will win tonight?
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The most important is the percentage of our vote.
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For 1.6%, if we go to 4%, 5%, 6%, that's a huge victory.
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You know, the Green Party, after 38 years, they are around 4%.
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If we can do better than that, after only two elections and two years, it would be very
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good and we'll build from there for the next election.
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And how do you feel about Erin O'Toole's say that voting for PPC is splitting the vote?
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You know, that's funny because the only argument is that you don't vote for a party that is
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And I believe that Canadians are intelligent and they know that the People's Party is
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the only real conservative party in this country.
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Well, folks, I can't say I disagree with Max, thanks to Erin O'Toole endlessly flip-flopping
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on everything from the carbon tax to the gun ban.
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Is the Conservative Party truly conservative or is it sort of liberal-lite?
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Meanwhile, Mr. Bernier believes what he says and says what he believes.
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And joining me now is La Belle Provence's she-devil with a sword, the one and only Khaleesi of Quebec.
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And that would be Alexa Lavoie, live and in person.
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First and foremost, give me your thoughts about what went wrong on Monday night.
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And I say that in terms of really the Conservative Party.
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I know Erin O'Toole sent out a release before the polls closed saying,
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oh, P.S., by the way, if the Liberals are held to a minority, we're declaring victory.
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And I think the fact is Erin O'Toole was probably sure he was going to win.
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And it's why if you look at all the social media,
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Erin O'Toole was like, I'm the only one who can take the place of Mr. Trudeau.
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And it was sure that he was going to win, but he lost.
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I thought, and even if you ask Liberals, Alexa,
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I thought Justin Trudeau ran a disastrous campaign.
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And people were saying, well, the first week doesn't define a campaign.
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in the early going, he looked very prime ministerial, right?
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And then in the homestretch, something seemed to spook him.
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I would say unnecessary flip-flops on the carbon tax, on the gun ban.
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And I don't know what it was to bring it back to the PPC.
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Could it have been he saw the PPC gaining in polls?
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At one point, Maxime Bernier, his People's Party of Canada, 11%,
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which is a staggering figure for a start-up political party.
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But nevertheless, what do you think spooked Erin O'Toole,
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who was running a good campaign, to suddenly go even more to the left?
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I think with Mr. Trudeau, I think his campaign was just wrong.
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He keep focusing on vaccination, on demonizing the unvaccinated people.
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but we know that we'll be in an election in two years from now
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But for Mr. Erin O'Toole, I think he saw on the polls
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but he saw like NPD and the PPC going in the statistics.
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but I think when you're afraid, you made a lot of mistakes.
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And that began to be uncertainly on his campaign.
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and the day after he was telling something else.
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or maybe the fear to see like other parties going up.
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And he knew, and it's why he say voting for PPC is splitting vote.
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It was, he wanted to make sure that people would not vote for the PPC
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vote for the conservative because we will be sure that Trudeau would not win.
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And on that matter, there were writing certainly
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that if you took the PPC vote and you assumed all of those were disgruntled conservatives
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and you put the conservative candidate in that writing,
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Still, it would still result in Erno Toole coming in second.
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But, you know, let's talk about the People's Party of Canada, Alexa.
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As I said, at one point, one poll showed them at 11%.
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When the ballots were counted, it was about half that amount.
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That's still a very impressive number for a very young political startup party.
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I mean, winning a seat for a startup political party,
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What do you attribute to the support, coast to coast,
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even though it didn't result in any seats for Maxime Bernier,
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what do you attribute to the popularity of the PPC this time around?
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I was really shocked to see any seats going up that night.
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But his popularity is because it's the only political party, like he say,
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that is against the mandatory vaccine, against the vaccine passport.
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It's for freedom of choice, pro-choice, do whatever you want.
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Like what we saw during his event, it was actually what he prone, like his value.
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If you don't want to wear the mask, it's your choice.
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You choose whatever you want to do with your body.
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And isn't that what you would expect a conservative leader and party to say,
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that, you know, we're not going to be big government.
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We're not going to tell you how to live your lives.
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But for some reason, Aaron O'Toole, like I said, kept drifting the party further and further left.
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And I think he forced people to vote for the PPC.
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Yeah, because at the beginning, it was not really for the mandatory vaccine.
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And it was more like for the vaccine passport, we are not really for it.
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And we are more like PCR tests, daily PCR tests.
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And after that, it changed a little bit, like yes for the vaccine passport and yes for other things.
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And we were like, this guy will probably, if he gets elected, will be as Trudeau.
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So it's like a vote for Trudeau or a vote for Aaron O'Toole is actually the same.
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And, you know, and furthermore, I agree with you, Alexa, no spine, no firm with his convictions.
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And it reminded me, you know, going back more than 20 years ago, remember Paul Martin running for the Liberal Party?
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And he got the nickname Mr. Dithers because he couldn't make up his mind.
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And I think the ultimate moment was it was around Christmastime and he had a photo op at his house and he was putting a Christmas wreath on the door.
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And a reporter asked, Mr. Martin, it was just a fun question, but it became a disaster for him.
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Is that a Christmas wreath or a holiday wreath?
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And his eyes, it was like Bambi looking into the high beams of a Hummer on the highway.
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He didn't know what, he didn't want to offend any camp.
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I think that was the case with Aaron O'Toole as well.
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We've got to say, though, as much as the Conservatives whine about vote splitting by the PPC, it works both ways.
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And I think what Aaron O'Toole was counting on, Alexa, was the NDP to do really, really well.
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I think they were hoping that a lot of liberals that are disenchanted with Trudeau and his shenanigans would go to Jagmeet Singh's NDP.
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I think Jagmeet Singh did a really great mistake to use TikTok or other, like, social media that is, it's not credible.
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Like, why using TikTok small dance when you are running for being Prime Minister of Canada?
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And in the meantime, not taking questions from us.
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You know, the mainstream media keeps painting this narrative, oh, what a wonderful leader, how classy, how savvy.
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And meanwhile, no, I think he's a petulant brat.
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You, I, anyone else ask him questions, and it's like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, I can't hear you.
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No, and when you look at the leader of the party, Trudeau, diabolize our media and don't want to answer us.
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And we're not all, answer to our question, but not really answer to the question.
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Jack Mincing, no, no, no, straight, close-minding.
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So it's, I'm not answering, it's a no, no, and don't try to diabolize us, don't try to answer.
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It's like, Jack Mincing and Yves-François Blanchet, same, perfect.
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And you have the two other extreme, Trudeau is like, trying to destroy us, and you have a Renato who try to pass really well to answer us without answering the main question.
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But with the others who say it's policy, that I don't answer questions from Rebel News.
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They can't convey the ostensible policy reason for the policy.
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And we have thick skins, we don't care if we get the bum's rush.
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It's disrespectful for a huge percentage of Canadians that don't agree with them.
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They're saying, you're not worthy of an answer.
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Yeah, and they choose the media that they want.
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I mean, my goodness, if Jagmeet Singh thought he was going to be prime minister, he would have to deal,
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in terms of foreign policy, with some of the most horrible regimes on the planet, terrorist groups like the Taliban.
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He's expected to deal with that, but he can't take a question.
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I was, like, keeping telling the same narrative that he said to me.
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He's the communications director for the Conservative Party, yes.
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At one point, I would just say, can you change your cassette?
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Change your tape, because your tape is always the same thing.
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We have a 1.5 million-plus YouTube audience, most of whom, presumably, are right of centre.
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One last question, because we've got to wrap it up.
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A minority government in Canada, the shelf life, Alexa, is between 18 and 24 months.
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So, within two years, we're going to go back into this vortex of insanity.
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To focus the question on the PPC, what do you see as the future of the PPC?
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I think, yes, they're getting great popular support, but you've got to translate that into at least one seat to have a voice in the House of Commons.
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I think with the year we come, with Trudeau as a leader, again, things will get more, like, strict and more strict.
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So, the PPC will probably have the chance to get the other population that now did vote for Trudeau that will say it's enough, and they will join the PPC movement.
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So, they have maybe the chance to get a seat at the next election.
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But, fun fact, Trudeau is the only leader who will say that will not respect the four-year mandate if you get the minority.
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But all the other leaders were okay to be the leader of a minority government for four years to come.
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We will be around, certainly, to cover the shenanigans that happen in the next two years.
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And I just want to say, before we leave, excellent reporting on the campaign.
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We'll just have to see what's in store for the PPC when the next election is called,
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and whether or not Erno Toole is still the leader of the Conservative Party.
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Keep it here. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
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I'm here today to stand with my friend Becky, who is an RN, and, of course, she's totally against the mandate that's come down.
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We should all be banding together and allowing people to have choice.
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Same thing. I want choice. I want freedom of choice as well.
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Now, I can marry who I want. I can sleep with who I want.
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I can choose to keep a fetus if I want, but I can't choose to pick what I want to put in my body.
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There may be alternatives for treatment even if so.
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We need to move on, live our lives. Come on, guys. You can do this.
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I came to the protest today because I'm against masks. I'm against the mandates.
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I'm against coercing people. I'm against the job completely.
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Seeing the angry Albertan here, speaking up and talking out, and it's good.
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It's good to meet people who are like-minded, and lots of people think the same way.
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We can't take the stripping down of our freedom one after another, after another, after another.
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Well, if I don't get the vaccine, then I can't do anything.
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I can't watch my kids play hockey. I can't take them to the pool.
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I'm losing my job. I work for Alberta Health Services.
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And I'm not doing it. I'm not complying. I'm not going along with this. This is so wrong.
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Well, I'm here because I have four children, and I'm standing up for their right to make medical choices for themselves.
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I heard Justin Trudeau say that if you don't believe in vaccine passports, you just might be a misogynist, is what I heard.
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What the Prime Minister has to say about me means nothing to me. He's a liar.
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The Prime Minister in here is not my Prime Minister. He is nothing.
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He no love Canada. He no love the people. He love himself. He's evil.
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Well, that was Sheila Gunn-Reed in Edmonton last Saturday getting demonstrators to weigh in on the odious vaccine passports.
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I mean, speaking out in favour of, oh, I don't know, freedom?
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Trumpeting the idea of reasonable accommodation?
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Yeah, for the mainstream media and the political and bureaucratic elites, these are just so many COVID-iots.
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Well, to me, they are freedom fighters standing up against medical apartheid.
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And with more on this story is Sheila Gunn-Reed herself.
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So, Sheila, just curious, whatever happened to that old chestnut the feminists have trumpeted for decades now,
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especially those on the left, my body, my choice.
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Has that evaporated or is it still around, but it only applies to a woman terminating a pregnancy?
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You see, my body, my choice is the government saying that that's my body.
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I mean, it's a constant deluge of people now in my email, and I'm sure you're getting the same thing,
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that they're being told they're going to lose their job unless they get the vaccine,
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or they are being separated from their family unless they get the vaccine.
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And this, for whatever reason, it's a medical procedure they do not want to undertake,
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be it for religious reasons, moral reasons, or just because they don't want it.
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It's really not my business, and it's not the government's business,
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but there is a vast swath of society that is just being carved out and stuck over there.
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They are the people now who have to eat outside.
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They don't get to watch their minor children play sports or do gymnastics
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because mom and dad aren't vaccinated, and their 11-year-old is too young to get vaccinated.
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From a premier who said just a little while ago, what even is a vaccine passport?
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Well, he learned real fast, and it's not a conspiracy theory.
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You know, Sheila, let's talk about that premier, Premier Kenney.
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There are all kinds of whispers out there that there might be a palace coup that so many of the MLAs in Alberta,
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when it comes to their grassroots, they are furious.
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I think Jason Kenney tried to deflect some of that anger or cause a distraction by demoting Shandro,
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or I don't know if it was a demotion or a lateral move, however you want to interpret it.
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But that kind of came out of the blue, and I see he's getting all kinds of criticism from the usual suspects in the mainstream media for that.
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But is Jason Kenney going to get out of this mess?
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Because there is an election next year, and as we've said before,
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all he's had in terms of a weapon in his quiver is time.
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I mean, it feels as though he's just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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And from what I understand, Shandro has been moved from health, where he has been the worst health minister Albert has ever had.
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And the union should be super happy about that, because they are in complete lockstep with him with regard to vaccine passports.
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You couldn't have a more useless labor minister, and he's going to do whatever they want.
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He's done whatever the health care unions wanted from the very beginning.
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It's just, you know, the people who work in labor that might have a problem with him.
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But, yeah, with regard to Jason Kenney, he's never going to please the left.
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They think he's got a hidden agenda, which I have yet to see yet.
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But as a conservative, I actually do think he has a hidden agenda at this point, because he says things.
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And then a couple of weeks later, he just flip flops on it.
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Literally the first day of fall, I think, was yesterday.
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And we were locked down, and the best summer ever was snatched from us just like that.
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And then, yeah, not only are we locked down, we're wearing masks and vaccine passports.
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We are one of the strictest lockdown restrictions in the country.
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At least in Ontario, you guys had some lead time to prepare yourselves emotionally and psychologically to being pariahs.
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It happened to us in Alberta within the span of a couple of days.
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And I don't think Jason Kenney can dig himself out of this hole.
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If he wants to save the party over himself, he's going to have to go.
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And there are rumblings that there are MLAs who are going to stand up to him.
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Yeah, well, you know, give it some time and give it the runway for Kenny to make even more bad decisions, Sheila, if that is indeed possible at this point.
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But, you know, going back to that protest, what I liked about it, Sheila, is, you know, the mainstream media and certain premiers and bureaucrats and the medical establishment,
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they like to paint these people, well, to use Premier Ford's word, a bunch of yahoos.
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And the people you interviewed, they seem so nice.
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Was there any other media out there to actually cover the protests and see who these covidiots are?
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You can see them standing like at 100 yards away.
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And, you know, it's mainstream media because you're the only people wearing a mask outside.
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And they're standing over there and it's like wildlife photography.
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They've got like their long range lenses because they don't want to get close to this horrible super spreader event of covidiots.
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That's what they've convinced themselves they are.
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But unlike the mainstream media at Rebel News, we don't talk about the people.
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And you saw it's men, women, old, young, diverse crowd, people from all backgrounds, socioeconomic status.
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It's all people who just care about freedom and privacy and autonomy of the self.
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Some of them told me, like, look, Sheila, I'm vaccinated, but I got to be here for my friends and family who choose not to be.
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Because they don't get they don't get a choice anymore.
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And, you know, it's it's really funny to hear people argue that those people who are protesting are selfish because the selfish people are the ones who are saying those people over there cannot come eat in a restaurant because I have no confidence in my vaccine.
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That's the selfish person, not the person who just wants to be left alone to live their lives.
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These are the salad days for the covid, Karens.
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You know, just the other day I saw something on Twitter and it was this poor man at a cafe at the Boston airport, I believe.
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And this woman's walking by like 20 feet away from him with a child and she's berating him for not wearing a mask.
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And I'm thinking and he's so polite, polite beyond any measure I might be because she's nagging and nagging and she's in no danger.
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And as far as I can tell, he's obeying the rules, Sheila, because you have to lower the mask if you're eating and drinking.
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Right. But this is what this pandemic has done.
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Last word goes to you, my friend, in terms of the battlefield of Alberta,
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when it comes to vaccine passports and all the other rubbish that is tied into this pandemic.
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How do you see things playing out in the near future, Sheila?
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I think we're going to see a replication of the restaurant rebellion out here when the government closed the restaurants and the restaurants said, no, no, we're just going to reopen ourselves.
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And when they closed the hairdressers and the hairdresser said, I don't think so.
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And they closed the tattoo shops and the tattoo shop said, not today, Satan.
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The uptake on our new Civil Liberties Awareness Project, wewon'task.com has been incredible.
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I stuck the first stickers on Natalie Klein, Blades to Fades barbershop owner.
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I put my first stickers on her door and she posted a photo of it to social media.
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And it's just been a deluge of other businesses saying, I want one of those stickers.
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I'm not going to ask my customers what their vaccination status is.
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I promise to mind my own business while I'm doing business.
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And so I think we're going to see a lot of businesses who are doing the same thing saying, I'm not fighting with my customers.
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I will serve everybody regardless of their vaccination status.
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And, you know, that's the thing about Albertans.
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And the government is going to learn that the hard way, I think, again this time.
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And, you know, and that is the other unfortunate thing about the vaccine passports.
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You're forcing hospitality staff into becoming bouncers.
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So he can't even see these letters and phone codes.
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And secondly, his daughter works at the restaurant.
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He doesn't want her subjected to, you know, like an argument every day.
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So as a result, he's closed his indoor seating.
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And I can tell you, covering that business for seven years and another life, it is so difficult to make a buck.
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And now you have government piling on and just making it even more difficult.
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And for all those that say we're all in this together, yeah, government bureaucracy, they never lost a paycheck.
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But the private sector, they've suffered and suffered unless you have a lobbyist to go to bat for you like Walmart did.
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And now you have them being put into the role of bylaw and law enforcement in terms of policing this thing.
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It is just shameful and doubly so that so many conservative premiers are going down this route.
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I know you'll have an update very soon on We Won't Ask.
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In the meantime, you have a good weekend, my friend.
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But just think about the position these restaurant owners are put in.
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The only people they're allowed to serve at this point are the people who actively cheered for them to be forced to close their doors.
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And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed somewhere in the northern hinterland of Alberta.
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More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
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Aaron O'Toole is 20 minutes late for his own rally.
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It's because he won't come out of the bus because little old me is here to ask him questions.
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He's not getting out of the bus, but he's backing it up.
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I know there's mainstream media types that Aaron O'Toole has all the time in the world for around the corner.
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So I guess he's, rather than entertain questions from Rebel News, he's going to find another way into the building.
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This is unbelievable, but, you know, you can't really drive a bus all that fast in an industrial parking lot.
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So I guess we'll just follow the bus and see where it leads.
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Okay, because I got my steel-toed boots in the car after the Trudeau event.
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Well, folks, I can tell you we're kind of being received like the skunk to the garden party.
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They've moved the bus around the building, and Aaron O'Toole is still not coming out.
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I mean, I pose no harm to him unless you consider, I don't know, insensitive, impolite questions as harmful things.
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But he's got to come out of this bus sometime or another, right?
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Like, I'm not going to, we're not going to do this.
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Your outlet, and you also continually disrupt our events.
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13 months ago, Aaron O'Toole had nothing but time for us.
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Does Aaron O'Toole regret moving the party further left, stiffing Rebel News, stiffing Jordan Peterson?
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So you're welcome to the sidewalk across the street.
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We have an event to start, and I'm asking you to leave.
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And Aaron O'Toole is too cowardly to come out of a bus.
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On Monday he will be, so I'm asking you to leave.
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This is not, this is public property, the berm.
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This is what we've been told is the property to the curb.
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We have the, we have the, the, the event manager.
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I've been told to the curb, and I'd be careful there.
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Corey, for the record, I think you're pathetic.
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Your 2021 edition of the Conservative Party of Canada, which, of course, went down in flames
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on Monday night, even after bending the knee to the mean girls of the media party, who hate
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Yet a Conservative-friendly media outlet, such as Rebel News, gets the bums' rush.
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Now, gee, where have we seen this one play out before?
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Oh, yeah, the 2019 edition of the Conservative Party of Canada, led by another lame-brain leader,
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In any event, you had plenty to say about a federal party that seems content to forever
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be the official opposition, simply due to profound strategic stupidity.
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Oh, but Sonny, if you ask Team O'Toole, Monday night's result was actually a victory,
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because the Conservatives held the Justin Trudeau Liberals to a minority government.
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You know, I bet Aaron O'Toole is the kind of guy who does victory laps when he plays chess,
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Yeah, he didn't win, but he didn't lose either, right?
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A reporter doing actual journalism is disrupting?
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These politicians have gotten far too comfortable playing their little pre-screened PR events
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Yeah, and what an awful event it was, Ragman X.
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There was actually more mainstream media jackals at this so-called rally
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It made a Biden rally look Trumpian by comparison.
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He claims you are disrupting the event, but he won't specify how you are doing that.
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He put me and my camerawoman in danger by demanding we stand in a live lane of traffic
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as if we posed any threat whatsoever to Aaron O'Toole.
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and apparently this ex-military man finds that to be too triggering.
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Liam, that letter is a thing of beauty, but really, do we laugh or do we cry?
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It's time for a political shake-up in this country.
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I think there might be, oh, I don't know, a million or so voters who feel exactly the same way.
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And it is thanks to your ongoing policy of cowardice, flip-flopping, and lying.
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Corey, let's start rebuilding the Conservative Party.
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Step one, submit your resignation, you lying liar who can't stop lying.
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Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup.
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And hey, folks, never forget, without risk, there can be no glory.