Did you see that huge baseball game in Texas？ Do you remember what freedom even looks like？
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Ezra LeVant explains why you should go to the ball game even if you don't believe in wearing a mask to protect yourself from a pandemic. Plus, why lockdowns are everywhere and why we should be worried about them.
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Hello, my friends. I saw a tweet by Aaron O'Toole saying his big plan for the pandemic was to
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hire a commission of smart people to write a report about it.
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Yeah, I just don't think that's going to do. I come up with 15 quick questions
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that any conservative ought to be able to answer about the pandemic. I'll list the 15 for you next.
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Tonight, did you see that huge baseball game in Texas? Do you remember what freedom even looks
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like? It's April 6th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right
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Did you see this? A huge baseball game in Texas just packed. Tens of thousands of people choosing
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their own fear level, as I like to say. If you're afraid that the virus is going to jump out and get
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you, then don't go. Stay at home. Wear two masks or maybe three. Maybe hide in the basement in the
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dark. Whatever your fear level is. And let everyone else go out to the ballgame. America's national
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pastime. Sitting next to strangers. Talking with people again. Laughing. Cheering. Commiserating.
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Catching up. Being social creatures. Having a community spirit. Spending money. Earning money.
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Living life. Of course there are mask scolds. Anthony Fauci is the worst. Remember when he pitched at a
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baseball game. He was wearing the mask. And then as soon as the cameras were off him, or so he thought,
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he took that stupid thing off his face. He doesn't believe in masks. It's all for show. It's for you to
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obey, not him. I mean, you can still believe in lockdownism. Fill your boots. But it's pretty clear
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that the people promoting the masks and the panic, they don't really believe in it themselves. I mean,
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here's Trudeau at a crowded Black Lives Matter protest. He says you can't visit your family,
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but he'll do this political photo op because it suits them. Here's Calgary police at the Black
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Lives Matter protest in that city. That's fine. But if Arthur Pawlowski has church over Easter,
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they'll send six cops to shut him down. We'll talk to Arthur later in the show today.
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By the way, there's no correlation between lockdowns and this pandemic story to disappoint you. Here's the
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Texas pandemic graph. No masks, no problem. Here's a better example. North and South Dakota,
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demographically very similar, right next to each other, same weather, similar in most ways,
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except South Dakota, total freedom, North Dakota, lockdown. And look, there's no difference in outcome.
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And I note that South Dakota had a big 500,000 person festival a little while back, not even a blip
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from that. So yeah, why are we locking down again? I'm glad to see some resistance like this video
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Get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out, get out.
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that is so great those aren't radicals those aren't professional activists
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they're normal people fed up with things so the lockdownists have to get crazier and crazier to
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keep you feeling tense this unelected unaccountable public health scold no one ever heard of him
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before just unilaterally ordered every school in the massive Ontario municipality called
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Peel region just ordered every school shut down just did it because he can you can stop him it
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wasn't the decision made by the legislature or the education minister or the school board parents
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got no warning this tyrant just did it and then he did a victory lap with the lockdown media and
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then the same in Toronto just the premier had a press conference saying schools stay open public
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health officer in Toronto said no they're not if some people love that I see it I see people alone
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in their cars wearing a mask in their car by themselves you just in case you know but I
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think others are getting pretty sick of it I mean not everybody but a big chunk of people and not
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just people who look and sound like me if you've noticed our coverage of the pandemic the protesters
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against the lockdowns and our fight the fines clients you'll notice they're often working class
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people or mom and pop shops waiters waitresses unemployed people even homeless people natural
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health type people you know fitness people free spirits some of them skeptics some of them it's a new
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coalition some of them could be called right wing but many of them not it's a new coalition and I think
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you might even call it a new voter base isn't it clear to you Governor Greg Abbott in Texas Governor
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Ronda Santas in Florida Christy Noem in South Dakota they're taking strong positions on the
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lockdown it's working they're winning they're leading they've taken back their states from the
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unelected unaccountable public health deep state listen to Anthony Fauci sputter when asked to explain
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how Texas is doing so well mentioned Texas in that full ballpark in Arlington yesterday there was a lot
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of concern last month when Texas effectively opened up dropped all those restrictions and said
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it's back to life and if you go to Texas as you know it looks like 2019 the restaurants and the
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bars are full and open the ballparks are full and yet we've seen cases and hospitalizations since then
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continue to tick downward so what do you make of that as all of us look around and sort of try to
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consider how safe it is to get back to normal life yeah you know it's it can be confusing because you
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may see a lag and a delay because often you have to wait a few weeks before you see the effect of what
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you're doing right now you know there are a lot of things that go into that I mean when you say that
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they've they've had a lot of uh activity on the outside like ball games I'm not really quite sure it
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could be they're doing things outdoors you know it's very difficult to just one-on-one compare that
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you just have to see in the long range I hope they continue to tick down if they do that would
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be great but there's always the concern when you pull back on methods particularly things like indoor
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dining and bars that are crowded you can see a delay and then all of a sudden tick right back up
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we've been fooled before by situations where people begin to open up nothing happens and then all of a
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sudden several weeks later things start exploding on you so we got to be careful we don't prematurely
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judge that that's pretty incredible and by the way Ron DeSantis of Florida he wears a mask from time
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to time he's not an anti-masker he's just a conservative so what does Aaron O'Toole have to say
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especially about these examples from the United States of health and economic and freedom outcomes
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well here's a tweet he made today securing Canada's future means learning from the past
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a pandemic inquiry will do just that learning lessons and empowering us to be better prepared for
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future generations what and then the graphic says a conservative government will call a public
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inquiry to examine every aspect of the government's pandemic response but but hang on this isn't some
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event that has come and gone and now that we're all done let's just sift through it historically like
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a forensic audit to learn from it and do better next time like like a mining disaster or you know
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the Titanic it's over okay let's learn from it it's not over the lockdown disaster it's happening now
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we can't wait until a conservative government is formed before Aaron O'Toole appoints somebody to do
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some critical thinking for him and report back to him that's his job by the way and it's his job now
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and there is no way he's going to become the government unless he himself expresses an opinion
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on the matter now seriously that's his big plan assume you're going to win months and months from now
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appoint someone smart then and then wait to hear what that smart person has to say about the world you
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you don't have an opinion now is there some particular expert on life on politics on the world
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that's better than O'Toole to express the conservative position right now if so can they maybe be the
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conservative party leader now I can think of 15 things I just jotted down 15 things that we could and
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should have an opinion on right now any concern 15 I'll rattle through them number one the endless state
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emergency that lets governments govern by edict spend by fiat gives some shocking wartime powers
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you're fine with that we're into the second year of that now you're you're just fine with a permanent
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emergency point one point two parliament emasculated shrunk cut down doesn't get to debate on let alone
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vote on most real decisions you're you're cool with that it's conservative leader you don't you don't know
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what you think about that until a panel of experts tells you point three budgets there's none in
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Canada they're being destroyed for all time we're talking about banana republic style levels of debt
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and a conservative leader has nothing to say on that now himself he wants to wait for an expert panel
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point four audits the money that's being shoveled out the door to ridiculous companies with no experience
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in their field but liberal connections billions being wasted got nothing to say on that number five
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lobbying how liberal insiders just sent an email to their friends on the inside and
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deals are signed just like that point six procurement is related politics first like trudeau signing deals
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with communist china for vaccines that didn't materialize just no oversight
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conservative party has nothing to say on that themselves point seven how about flights flights from china
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were fine they literally never were stopped by trudeau we know this because david menzies went to the airport
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and checked but now travel between canada and the united states is heavily restricted if allowed at all
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point eight covid jails at hotels at the airport it it's a scandal of the first order it's imprisoning
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canadians and you got to wait for someone else to tell you what to think on that point nine
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the lying cbc media that has been little more than a propaganda vehicle for trudeau and teresa ten
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you got nothing to say about that point ten the widespread establishment tactic of denouncing
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critics of pandemic mismanagement as racist the liberals are masters of it got nothing to say
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about that point eleven the bizarre flip-flopping advice i mean here's bonnie henry from bc but they're
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all like this irritating and people are more likely to touch their face when they have a mask on and that
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can be a way of inoculating yourself if i'm not sick it's not effective it's not something that when
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i'm out in public it's going to protect me in any way we don't want people wearing it all day long for
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example we cannot rely on a mask because the mask is not what keeps us safe and masks for long periods
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of time are not recommended by anybody in any situation we're not wearing masks now would we be safer
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right now if we had masks on no we see these are the things that we have learned i've always supported
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wearing masks i've never said don't wear them i've always said wear them where it's appropriate
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yeah the weirdness is 0.12 of listening to foreign china controlled entities like the world health
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organization instead of common sense i'm going to be very frank there's no politician in this country
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who's going to disagree with their chief medical officer uh they just aren't going to do it they
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might as well throw a rope around their neck and jump off a bridge they're done i don't know why i
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bring all these papers i never look at them oh you're giving numbers i do i go oh oh i said that
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i just say whatever they write down for me that's why you're guessing who's the power behind the throne
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there point 13 the vaccine screw up point 14 oh yeah by the way the flattening of our civil liberties
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point 15 the persecution of churches you're the conservative party you don't got anything to say
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about that 15 things to talk about right now not six months or a year from now not to hire some
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experts to let you know what you think right now and you know opinions on those things on any of them
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even you think it's enough to say you want to ask some questions or actually delegate a panel
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to later on ask questions and later on report back i'm sorry i'm sorry that's just not good enough
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please get out get out of this property immediately get out get out of this property
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immediately out i don't want to hear anything out of this property immediately i don't want to hear a word
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out out out of this property immediately out immediately go out and don't come back
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i don't want to talk to you i don't want to talk to you i don't want to talk to you not a word out of this
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out of this property immediately out i don't care what you have to say out out out of this property
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you nazis out out gestapo is not allowed here immediately gestapo is not allowed out
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do you understand english get out of this property go so go go and don't come back without the warrant
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i counted more than 30 times that pastor asked that policemen sheriffs health officers and two
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undercover agents i think there were six of them all together more than 30 times the pastor had to
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ask them to leave private property i should remind you that disturbing or interrupting at church
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service in canada is a crime section 176 2 of the criminal code as well as trespass 30 times he had
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to ask and they finally slouched their way out but i knew from the sound of that voice immediately who
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was conducting that exorcism i know that voice it belongs to our friend arthur peplofsky the very first case
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in our fight the fines.com civil liberties project and so i'm delighted to speak with him today
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about that experience and the reaction to it arthur great to see you again congratulations
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on being such a role model for moral courage in the face of abusive police that was amazing
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thank you thank you ezra and you guys are my heroes thank you so much for defending me because without
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the backing of people like you ezra rebel news i would not have such a courage because we are in
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this together we have to be united so i want to just thank you use this opportunity to thank you
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for standing with us well that's very generous of you i happen to know you well enough to know that
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you would have the courage even if you were all by yourself against the world but i appreciate your
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generous thanks and we have been attentive to the police abuse of you a year ago i mean here's some
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footage while i speak you were literally feeding the homeless on the streets of calgary it was a bit of
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a light snowfall it was cold these were hungry people you were feeding them and half a dozen calgary
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police came up to you pushed you around and actually gave you a 1200 fine they said it was an illegal
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illegal gathering i don't know what's wrong with the police but they sure seem to pick on you a lot
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arthur yes they do this is not my first run i've told them many times many times on many occasions
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do not do not come to our church do not intimidate our children our elderly just do not do that if you
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want to pick on me if you want to give me a ticket which i have now 28 28 tickets you know like like this
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one uh already and um um i told them many times do not do not interfere with uh with my rights um do not
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come do not intimidate uh and yet uh they keep coming our record for christmas was over hundred police
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officers 52 police cars i mean that's insane and this time was however the first time that they dared
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to enter a church building even though i've told them not to the last time they came they blocked our
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driveway to the church it took me 45 minutes to open the driveway so people can actually come to the
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church but this time i was taken by surprise ezra i didn't expect them to do this during our most
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holy celebration shabbat passover celebration and if you know the story this is the story of god
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saying let my people go from the land of slavery and they just they had the audacity to come uninvited
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even though i've told them many times you're not allowed to do that uh just to intimidate our people
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so i reacted the way i reacted it's like fending off the wolves in the middle of the of your sheep i
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um as a pastor as a man as a freedom you know free men in the land i had to chase them out that's what
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i did yeah well that that's interesting because that is what the word pastor means to take care
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of your people against wolves they um it's very interesting to me that they only chose to enter
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your church on easter weekend that's a disgrace i suggest it might actually be against the criminal
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code 28 tickets i think we're actually still representing you on on some of those tickets
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and it's a pleasure to do so uh let me ask you that video we played most of it a moment ago very
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powerful just the sheer force of your words and your conviction made them step down go down go out it was
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it was very dramatic that video was seen tens of millions of times i saw it uploaded on twitter
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accounts facebook instagram it went viral even especially american outlets i saw tmz from la that's
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a hollywood celebrity channel they picked it up tell me a little bit about the media reaction
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uh tell me a little bit about the media reaction that you received in the united states and around
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the world and then i want to ask you about how you were treated by the canadian media because i know
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it was different first of all tell me what reaction have you had outside canada unbelievable
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i am humbled i'm overwhelmed as you can imagine i'm just a regular guy a small time you know small
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city uh pastor if you will i don't have a secretary so i'm dealing with all of this by myself
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and i was overwhelmed i had thousands of people emailing uh texting calling me crying actually and
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they said you're giving us hope you're restoring our boldness you uh you you are like moses leading
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us out of the land of slavery unbelievable overwhelming positive 99.9999 of people are just
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absolutely amazed uh by it which which puts me you know i'm humbled by it uh because i didn't think
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you know much about this video i thought actually you know me yelling uh has never been very popular
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so overwhelming i've heard that i've seen actually russians writing posts about this in their mainstream
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media i've seen around the world news outlets are talking about this fox news um news max i mean
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everywhere and the positivity of this is is overwhelming it's humbling it's amazing however in canada
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especially in calgary i am portrayed you know ezra which is which is so sad because those people have
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absolutely no shame to this day i am a pastor and a chaplain for 20 years but you know those people
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the mainstream liars they would almost never call me a pastor they will just call me some kind of a
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street preacher anti-masker i'm not anti-masker i'm not even the organizer of anti-masker
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movement i am participant i support people's rights if you want to wear a mask that's your choice i don't
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want to wear one that's my choice i'm a free man i'm not the dog that should be muzzled so uh such a
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huge contrast because in one uh you know on one side there is this positive positivity uh there is like
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wow you're a hero you you you're showing us the way and then here in the mainstream media i'm this villain
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troublemaker lawbreaker that is just a horrible man that is killing i was called a bloody murderer
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because you know i dare to open the church to actually save lives you know in our parish we have
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people that try to commit to commit suicide uh they have no hope they were on drugs on alcohol and they
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come to me and they come to me for freedom for hope and that's what i'm giving people hope in this hopeless
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situation that we're seeing lockdowns restrictions you can't see your parents you can't visit your
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children they come to me for hope and i'm giving it to them this day i received a phone call from
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a lady she says you saved my life life i was on the way to murder to kill myself and i've heard you
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and now i'm alive thank you so that's the difference isn't that incredible the government
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has no problem with people going to walmart or costco or casinos or liquor stores or marijuana
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stores that's all fine but going to a church you have six officers show up including with a gun
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it's an upside down morality you know you mentioned around the world i saw for example australia's largest
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private broadcaster on tv played your whole clip with a positive commentary in toronto there's a very
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popular website called six buzz it's a little bit musical and a little bit uh immigrant oriented um
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99.9 percent support of incredible support it's interesting the diversity of people who found your
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uh remonstrations so they loved it but the local media in calgary and i think more broadly in canada
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they hate they hate christians they love the lockdown so they either ignored you or condemned
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you i find it so interesting around the world people saw what i saw a man fighting for freedom but
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there i think the media party just hates you and and loves lockdowns too much to call it like like they saw
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it yeah because they have an agenda you know that i know that everyone that has eyes knows that and you
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know you're talking to a guy that grew up on the communist dictatorship behind the iron curtain
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under the boots of the soviets so those people when i was growing up they had identical identical
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approach propaganda misinformation disinformation spinning you know party line uh rhetorics if you will
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they only allowed what they wanted people to hear it was everything the mainstream media was totally taken
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over by communism and uh everybody else that dared to say what they didn't like was either arrested
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beaten tortured sent to jail some of the clergymen their famous cases were murdered and buried after 34
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years they uncovered all those atrocities that communists did in poland um in the bible it says nothing
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is new under the sun and known are to us the devices of the enemy they're using the same tactics so
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they want to ignore you or they want to portray you as a bad person as a problem maker because that's
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what they want people to see anyone that rises up against dictatorship anyone that rises against
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tyranny is being portrayed as the enemy of the state and that's exactly how they see me that's how they see
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you and anyone that dares to fight them that's why we have to push even harder i hope that this video is
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is going to embolden people other pastors and clergymen priests and owners of businesses just tell
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them get out yeah get out you have no right to be here get out i'm protected by the constitution of this
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country what you're doing is illegal and i have enough get out yeah that's incredible well listen
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if you get any more tickets or any more police harassment i think we're representing you on a chunk of
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those tickets you held up there so we have a lawyer in calgary who's been working with you sarah miller
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is her name if you get more tickets or more hassle bring them to sarah we're happy to crowdfund your
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legal fees i would rather that your money go towards feeding the homeless and helping your your flock
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than wasting it on legal bills i think one of their tactics is to waste your time and waste your money
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let us cover the cost of fighting in court for you i think sarah miller is an excellent lawyer and
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and you focus on the good stuff you focus on spreading your message and i just have to say one
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thing i know a little bit about poland and i know that every time it counts it's the poles who save
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humanity whether it's the siege of vienna in 1683 or whether in more modern times it's pope john paul
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ii going and saying in warsaw be not afraid and standing up to the soviets the poles love freedom
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and it was no surprise to me to hear your voice calling out for freedom in a way that rang around
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the world so congratulations to you keep it up you have our support and you have the support of
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tens of millions even if the local media don't don't know it last word to you arthur thank you
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so much ezra you know i have been fighting tyranny for many years but most of the time i was by myself
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and you got no idea how how grateful i am to you and to the rebel for covering the stories for
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allowing me to feel that i am not alone that means everything that gives wings uh to me i can fly
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higher because i know that i have such a powerful allies like you so anyone that is listening to this
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please subscribe to rebel news support uh there is uh fight the fines over there we need that uh i can
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do what i do because i know i'm not alone and that gives me even bigger boldness so thank you thank
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you rebel thank you ezra well that's amazing you give us too much praise but we are happy to be part
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of the effort thank you my friend stay strong keep in touch don't let them scare you i know you won't
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if they come for you again let us know we'll be there keep fighting for freedom thank you god
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bless you all right you too well there you have it pastor arthur pavlovsky of the street church in calgary
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what a great freedom fighter if you want to learn more about the cases we've taken for arthur you can find
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them on our website fight the fines.com we are crowdfunding his calgary lawyer sarah miller stay
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with us hey welcome back on my show last night paul writes if all church leaders did what arthur did
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the churches would all be open and the lockdowns would be over
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yeah churches you bet and i think that's where arthur gets his strength and uh and confidence
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from but why not businesses too why not any place where a cop just walks in get a warrant come back
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with a warrant jay writes look how the bullies back down when confronted all canadians need to get
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angry this is how this nightmare ends with one brave man standing up to tyranny it really is i was just
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sending an email to a friend of uh australia tv that ran that clip in full i was just showing my
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friend how the whole world's talking about this except the media party in canada tanish writes ezra
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please do a reflection on why conservative premiers have been so hopeless on these issues
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why is jason kenney such a disappointment are coveted freakouts holding him for ransom
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well look that's what i was trying to get at today with aaron o'toole where are the conservatives
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surely we can learn from the conservative governors i mentioned kirstie noem ronda sandis greg abbott
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surely we can see that when you provide common sense conservative leadership people say yeah i'd
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rather have that than this weird lockdown dictatorship this doc-tatorship i don't get it that's our show
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for today until next time on behalf of us here at rebel world headquarters to you at home good night