“Disgraceful”: Trudeau’s CBC says Omar Khadr no worse than any teenager who commits vandalism
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Justin Trudeau's disgraceful CBC says Omer Cotter is no worse than a teenager who commits vandalism or is caught smoking marijuana. I'll show you the video. Why should others go to jail when you're the biggest carbon consumer?
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Tonight, Trudeau's disgraceful CBC says Omer Cotter is no worse than any teenager
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who commits vandalism or is caught smoking marijuana.
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It's December 14th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
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Listen to Cochran describe Omer Cotter, the convicted murderer and war criminal.
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He compares Cotter to teenagers who spray paint some vandalism or maybe smoke a joint.
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When you're covering provincial court, you see a lot of 15-year-olds, 16-year-olds, 17-year-olds
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And when you pull back and listen to the story, these are kids that didn't have a chance,
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often because of terrible parents who put them in terrible situations when they were young.
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And Omer Cotter kind of falls into a situation like this.
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He was 15, taken away, rules about child soldiers.
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I know Rachel's going to have a very different opinion on this.
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There wasn't any pushback from the CBC host, of course.
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Now, I happen to believe that David Cochran believes every word he said there.
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It really is the uniform point of view in the media.
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And you pretty much have to believe that to work at the CBC.
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But the CBC these days is just a megaphone for whatever the Liberal Party of Canada tells
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them to say, and we know that Justin Trudeau is more than a casual supporter of Omer Cotter.
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Without any legal precedent, Trudeau gave Cotter a $10.5 million check from taxpayers and a
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And Trudeau gave him the check in a manner legally designed to evade a civil lawsuit by
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the widow of the man Cotter killed, who's suing Cotter in civil court.
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Trudeau made sure the money could not be taken by the widow.
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Her fatherless kids are Taryn and Tanner Spear.
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I just want to tell you that because the mainstream media never does.
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They never mention them because in their narrative, Cotter is the victim.
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He's not the murderer who left a woman widowed and two kids without their dad.
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You mention the real victims and you remember that Cotter is not a victim.
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So the CBC loves Cotter and Trudeau is truly on his side.
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And we know this, not just from the $10.5 million, but do you remember when Trudeau had a secret
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meeting some months back with this terrorist supporter, Joshua Boyle?
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Boyle had taken his wife to Afghanistan to meet up with the Taliban.
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And Trudeau met with them when they were finally rescued by the American military.
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There's no mention of it in public until Boyle tweeted it.
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Did you know that his first wife was Zainab Cotter, Omar Cotter's pro-terrorist sister,
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So Boyle just can't get enough of terrorists, and Trudeau just can't get enough of Boyle.
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Boyle says that it's not the first time he met Trudeau.
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He said that was in 06 in Toronto over other common interests.
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He's a little bit cryptic, a little bit teasing about it.
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Why Trudeau had met Cotter's former brother-in-law years ago?
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So, I'm curious, but I'm not with the CBC, because they prefer to talk about how murdering
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someone is just like, you know, kids these days.
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They're smoking pot, and they're doing graffiti.
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But the way, by the way, that's actually how it happened in Afghanistan, that fateful day
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I just want to give you a refresher here, okay?
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So, Cotter was a few weeks short of his 16th birthday.
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He was holed up in a bunker in Afghanistan with other al-Qaeda terrorists.
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American Special Forces had surrounded the fort, and they waited.
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And they called to the bunker to tell them to let the women and the children go free.
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But Cotter chose to stay with the other men to fight as terrorists.
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He could go free, but he said, no, I'm almost 16.
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It was just a few weeks shy of his 16th birthday.
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You can join the Canadian Army at 16, too, by the way.
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And then, as Americans do, they searched through for wounded terrorists, not to kill them,
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not to finish them off, but to give them medical treatment and patch them up, if you can believe.
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That's why Christopher Speer, an Army medic, was there.
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And Cotter also blinded Lane Morris in the eye, one eye.
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And still, and despite all this, when the Americans recovered from his attack, the grenade attack,
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He would have died that day without their help, but they gave him emergency medical assistance.
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They even flew in a specialist ophthalmological surgeon to fix Cotter's eye.
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And you know what Cotter said to these American soldiers, in perfect English,
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when they stood over him that day and were giving him medical care?
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He would go straight to heaven and get his 72 virgins, because he just murdered an American.
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He would later tell guards at Guantanamo Bay that it was the best day of his life,
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And when he was down in the dumps, he would think about that day,
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murdering Sergeant Speer, and it would lift his spirits.
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We don't know how many other people Omar Khadar killed.
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As you can see in this Al-Qaeda propaganda video, that's him there,
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He made IEDs, improvised explosive devices, homemade bombs and mines.
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They were the kind that killed soldiers, including Canadian soldiers,
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who were co-located in Afghanistan with the Americans at the time he was doing this.
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Al-Qaeda IEDs did kill Canadians at the time Omar Khadar was making and planting IEDs.
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Did Omar Khadar make the particular IEDs that killed Canadians?
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Well, we don't know, but it doesn't matter because he made some of them.
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He deployed some of them, and whether this one or that one killed a Canadian, he's culpable.
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But I'd like to share with you some facts about Omar Khadar that I haven't talked about in a few years now.
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As you may know, a few years back, I wrote a book about Omar Khadar called The Enemy Within,
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Terror, Lies, and the Whitewashing of Omar Khadar.
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And you can still get it on Amazon if you want to see it.
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I've talked to the widow of the man he murdered, Tabitha Spear.
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I spoke with members of the prosecution team who obtained a conviction and 40-year prison sentence against Khadar for war crimes.
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I didn't interview Tabitha Spear for the book, but I've talked to her thereafter.
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And as you know, we crowdfunded college funds for their kids.
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So Khadar was actually prosecuted and convicted and sentenced for war crimes.
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But then Barack Obama cut a deal to spring him from prison and send him to Canada,
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despite the fact that he had a 40-year conviction.
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Let me tell you some of the things I've said before a few years back when I wrote the book.
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And I relied not just on witnesses and experts, but on Khadar's statements himself.
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You saw the video of him building bombs and posing with machine guns.
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They're still running the childhood picture of him given to the press by his mom.
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Now, I want to tell you, Khadar voluntarily signed this.
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And we know it was voluntary because Khadar's passionate lawyers agreed to it.
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Some of them paid for by the U.S. Pentagon, believe it or not.
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Some motivated by a political hatred for the U.S. war on terror in Guantanamo Bay.
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Some motivated by cash that Trudeau happily gave them.
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I mentioned the lawyers because I want to let you know that Khadar's lawyers who approved
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the signing of this confession were not patsies of the U.S. government.
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There's no way they would have permitted their client to sign a document under duress.
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This is actually what Omar Khadar did and confessed to.
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Khadar got involved with terrorism with his eyes open.
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Omar Khadar voluntarily, and of his own free will, chose to conspire and agree with various
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members of Al-Qaeda to train and ultimately conduct operations to kill United States and
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Omar Khadar said the location where he and the other Al-Qaeda operatives are shown planting
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IEDs in the video was chosen because it had been traveled by a U.S. military convoy.
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Now, Khadar wasn't just motivated by hatred for Americans and Westerners and Jews.
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During one interview, Omar Khadar indicated that following September 11, 2001, he was told
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about a $1,500 reward placed on each American killed.
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Omar Khadar indicated that when he heard about the reward, he wanted to kill a lot of Americans
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I'm sure that ain't no little lamb, no matter what the CBC and the Toronto stars say.
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He was in it to kill Americans and make some cash, too.
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So finally, his opportunity came on June 27, 2002, just seven weeks before he turned 16.
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Khadar was in a compound in the town of Coast, Afghanistan.
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They stopped shooting and called out to anyone inside the fort to tell them they could just
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Here's how Khadar and his lawyers put that in their confession.
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At one point, the women and children in the compound exited the compound, and U.S. forces
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Khadar hid in the compound, not revealing his position.
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And after the battle, when the U.S. came to check for survivors, he threw a grenade at
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Here's how Khadar and his lawyers describe him.
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At the time that Khadar threw the grenade that killed Spear and injured another soldier,
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Khadar was not under the impression that U.S. soldiers were preparing to charge his position,
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Rather, Khadar thought that the soldiers entering the compound were looking for wounded or dead,
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That's what Khadar confessed to doing with the approval of his anti-American lawyers.
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He's a Jew-hating, America-hating, ecstatic murderer, choosing to kill rather than leave
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He was a few weeks shy of his 16th birthday, the age that Canadian forces recruit soldiers,
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by the way, and much older than the 14-year-old U.N. definition of a child soldier.
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He was not a little lamb in junior high photos that his mom was circulating.
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He wasn't a child soldier in the traditional definition of that phrase as used in Africa,
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where 10- or 12-year-old kids are kidnapped from their families and forced to fight,
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often drugged up, threatened with murder themselves if they don't murder.
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Now, Omar Khadar was a thoughtful, passionate jihadist, meticulously trained in poisons,
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He was a translator for al-Qaeda who spoke five languages.
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He was a calm, collected terrorist who chose to stay behind to ambush a U.S. medic rather
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When Omar Khadar was in Guantanamo Bay, he was interviewed at great length for eight
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hours by America's top forensic psychiatrist, not a psychologist, a psychiatrist, Dr. Michael
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Dr. Wellner has worked on landmark cases ranging from Matthew Shepard to Andrea Yates to Elizabeth
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He's probably the best known forensic psychiatrist in America.
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The depravity scale he developed is now a part of the FBI's crime classification manual.
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And different experts could have different opinions.
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And when Dr. Wellner released his opinion on Khadar's dangerousness, he compiled a list
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And by that, I mean 73 facts that both the prosecutors and Omar Khadar and his lawyers agreed to.
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And that's his dangerousness after being captured, after being kept in Guantanamo Bay for years.
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These are factual reasons why Khadar remained dangerous the day he was released.
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Khadar drew great esteem from his father being a senior al-Qaeda leader.
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See, Omar Khadar is part of a crime family, like the Corleone family and the godfather.
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Omar Khadar's father was a terrorist fundraiser and a friend of Osama bin Laden.
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That's why Omar Khadar is treated as such a hero in Guantanamo Bay by other prisoners.
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Khadar would not acknowledge his father's illegal choices and actions.
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His family doesn't see the family business as wrong.
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He sees himself as the surviving heir to take it over.
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Khadar bragged about killing an American soldier.
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The most he has ever said is that he was sorry to the wife for hurting her feelings.
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He has never said he regrets killing the soldier.
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In prison, he would tell guards when he was mad at them that the best day of his life was killing Christopher Speer.
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Khadar instigated antagonism among the detainees towards U.S. personnel.
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See, in Guantanamo Bay, Khadar made a decision to become an Al-Qaeda leader, to rally other terrorists,
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Even in prison, he was an aggressive, antagonistic enemy.
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Khadar was not open to any chaplain as a spiritual guide.
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Now, the Pentagon, it's a fool's errand, but they hire Muslim chaplains to go to Guantanamo Bay
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to reach out to the terrorists there to try and show them that there is a way to be a devout Muslim that is not violent.
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He has his own extremist Islam that he has never given up.
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In fact, he became more devout than ever in Guantanamo Bay.
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He memorized the entire Koran, and he led other prisoners in prayer.
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Even though he was the youngest, because he was the most famous.
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Psychological testing reflects Khadar as angry and manipulative.
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See, of course he does, not just in prison, but from prison.
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He treats the CBC and the Toronto Star's pawns on a chessboard as Al-Qaeda assets.
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Of course, you saw that Cochran fellow from the CBC.
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He couldn't rush to do Al-Qaeda's bidding fast enough.
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Khadar's a master manipulator, just like his father was, and just like his family still are.
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Khadar has an established international network of terrorist contacts.
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He spent 10 years making deep friendships with hundreds of other terrorists at Guantanamo Bay,
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many of whom are now out of prison and returning to a life of murder and mayhem.
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They are Khadar's network, ready to work with him on the outside, and he just applied to go to Saudi Arabia.
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Khadar's father and brother have a history of repatriation in Canada without being held accountable for terrorist activity.
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I didn't talk much about Khadar's dad, Ahmed, or his brother, Abdul Karim Khadar, but they're both terrorists too.
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Both were captured by Pakistani anti-terrorism police.
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Both were allowed to come back to Canada like Omar Khadar did.
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And both just continued their jihad from Canadian soil.
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Of course Omar Khadar conned his way back to Canada.
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His dad and his brother did it, and they got away with it.
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They never got $10.5 million, though, did they?
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Omar Khadar's sister has spoken publicly of the exposure of the family's al-Qaeda legacy and having to start from zero again.
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She wants Omar to take up her dead father's jihad.
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She's the one Khadar wants to visit in Saudi Arabia now that he's come home to Canada.
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Here's Zainab, wearing a full niqab, talking about the family's love for terrorism.
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Three of his friends who were with him had been killed.
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Why does nobody say you killed three of his friends?
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Why does everybody say he killed an American soldier?
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That's who Khadar was in court yesterday seeking a passport to go visit her.
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Of course Trudeau wants to give him the passport.
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The Liberal Party believes that terrorists should get to keep their Canadian citizenship.
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And I'm willing to take on anyone who disagrees with that.
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Can you imagine being on an airplane with Omar Khadar?
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What airline could possibly take him aboard in a responsible decision?
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Unless Justin Trudeau himself is letting Khadar ride on a Canadian government jet.
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A little terrorist boy who gets to fly on a Canadian government jet.
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Omar Khadar is morally equivalent to Paul Bernardo.
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He would be all the way over on wellness depravity scale.
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But Khadar is motivated not by the cruelty itself, I don't think.
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But by cruelty in the service of his vision of Islam.
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So he willfully, thoughtfully commits terrorism.
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I don't think it's a sickness or a mental illness or an accident or a perversion as it may be with Bernardo.
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It's his belief system that he has never repudiated.
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And now he wants to get on a jet to visit his pro-terrorist sister in Saudi Arabia.
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Will he visit the hundreds of terrorist alumni from Guantanamo Bay?
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But let's close with the official narrative on Trudeau's state broadcaster.
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When you're covering provincial court, you see a lot of 15-year-olds, 16-year-olds, 17-year-olds coming through in shackles and handcuffs.
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And when you pull back and listen to the story, these are kids that didn't have a chance, often because of terrible parents who put them in terrible situations when they were young.
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And Omar Khadr kind of falls into a situation like this.
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He was 15, taken away, rules about child soldiers.
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I know Rachel's going to have a very different thing on this.
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Can I tell you for the 120th time, on anything important, you just can't trust the mainstream media.
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Well, earlier this week, there was a bit of a showdown in Congress.
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is evil. Google is evil. Google has sided with the communist Chinese against America. Google's
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helping arrest Chinese dissidents, Christians and Buddhists. Google is evil. Google is going
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to lie again and violate the law and violate all the others. You're in a hallway, in a
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public hallway. You're going to be arrested. That's enough. It makes too much noise. So
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Google's not an evil officer? I'm not saying that. Just control yourself. Okay. Get under
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control about it. I'm under control. Thank you. I just was taking my free speech away and
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lied about me. So I need to stand up to him. They're going to talk about me in this committee.
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I will be talked about. So what am I supposed to do? I don't get a day in court. They lie
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about me. Google only puts lies up. All the top searches are lies about me and my family.
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And that guy helps round up political dissidents. And then his people come to lie to Congress
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over and over and over again. And we don't get to respond to them. So Google is helping
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build censorship systems in China for a global social score. They've tested there to totally
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control every aspect of our lives. Apple and Tim Cook has said he wants censorship worldwide.
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They're working with the Chinese that have killed five times.
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All right, folks. Let's go. Whatever it is. We need to get some sort of decorum to the United
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States Congress. Google is evil. Okay. Google is evil. Everybody gets the wrong. They're not
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Well, there you have it. Alex Jones of the website Infowars.com shouting at Sundar Pichai,
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the senior executive from Google who was on Capitol Hill to testify. Quite a scene. Personally,
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I agree with the cop who said, look, you've got to simmer down. You've got to get it under control.
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You're in a public forum. Alex Jones did immediately rein it in. But putting aside his gravelly,
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gruff tone, is he right? Is Google actually evil? Defining evil as working with the totalitarian
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Chinese dictatorship to spy on all its people and taking those censorship algorithms and implementing
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them in North America? Is Google evil? And can a man who has been deplatformed, who is being kicked
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off of Google's YouTube, who's being kicked off Facebook, Twitter, and unpersoned, who has been
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smeared by Google as a hate monger or conspiracy theorist or whatever they say about him? Can he
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fight back in any way other than shouting at a man in a corridor of Congress? As he did correctly point
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out, he has not had his day in court because there's no courts involved, just private decisions done in the
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bowels of private companies. Joining us now to talk about this controversy is a man who is not far
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away, our friend Alan Bokhari, the senior tech correspondent for Breitbart.com. Alan, it's great
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to see you again. What a kerfuffle. Yeah, I was there in the building and actually in the committee
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room itself for Google's hearing. And let me tell you, it was totally packed. They had to stop letting
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people in because they had no more seats. And that just shows you how high profile this hearing
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with Google CEO was, because we're now in a situation where this private company has grown
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to such a size and has such influence over all aspects of our lives that everyone seems to be
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interested in it. And as you said, they have this vast power to just deplatform people. And as you
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said, as also Representative Louie Gohmert said, there are no courts involved because they
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have this special legal immunity given to them from the government. We've discussed it before
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that allows them to dodge liability for when there's information on their platform that
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liables people, like on Wikipedia, and also gives them legal immunity from lawsuits regarding
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censorship. So when they ban someone, they also have this special law that protects them from
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being taken to court for banning someone. So there's no real recourse when these companies
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Yeah. And that was, I think, hard for viewers to watch and be sympathetic towards Alex Jones,
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because he's physically a big man who was bellowing. For the first 30 seconds, he was just repeating
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a chant, Google is evil, which, frankly, could come across as childish, although it's a counterpoint
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to the original Google model, don't be evil. But his actual points about that Chinese, quote,
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social credit system, where everything you search, everything you look at, everything you do is
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connected to your, to you, to your cell phone number, and you're given a government score that
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they call social credit. And it determines your rights and freedoms in real life. That's being done,
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that really is being done. And, you know, people say, well, Alex Jones is a conspiracy theory,
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but that's not a conspiracy. That is how China works. Alan, I want to play a 30-second clip for
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you now from a high-speed bullet train in China that shows what this social credit system is like
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in real life. Here, take a look. Dear passengers, people who travel without tickets or behave disorderly
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or smoke in public areas will be punished according to regulations, and the behavior will be recorded
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in the individual credit information system. To avoid any negative record of personal credit,
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please follow the relevant regulations and help with the orders on the train and at the station.
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So, Alan, that's what happens when the sensors, when the scolds at Google connect to big government.
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You've got big tech and big government, and now everything you say, do, look at, almost everything
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you think is kept on a file about you. That, I do find that terrifying. And I'm not an Alex Jones
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conspiracy theorist. And on this matter, he's not a conspiracy theorist either.
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Of course, everyone knows the social credit system is real. It's been well documented by now.
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One of the things I'll say, by the way, going back to what you said earlier, is that I think
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we'll see a lot more people yelling at Silicon Valley CEOs in the future when you consider the vast
00:29:31.300
amount of power they have. I mean, it's not unusual for protesters to go and yell at presidents and
00:29:38.160
prime ministers. And when you think about it, Google has a lot more power than many of these,
00:29:43.700
than, say, the prime minister of a small country. They certainly have more power to know everything
00:29:48.380
about you, to surveil you. And they also control whether your business is successful or not, whether
00:29:56.100
you have a voice or not on the internet. So I think it's, I think we're going to be seeing people
00:30:00.620
yelling at Silicon Valley CEOs with megaphones. We're going to see, we may even see marches in
00:30:05.300
Silicon Valley. You know, we've seen people chain themselves to the HQ of Twitter recently.
00:30:11.260
And that's just a, it seems to be a natural consequence of the fact that these companies now have
00:30:16.960
so much power over speech and discourse and ban politics. When you have that much power,
00:30:22.260
you will be protested. Going back to social credit, the one thing I'll say is, yes, the Chinese
00:30:27.780
system is very terrifying, but let's not pretend we don't have something similar developing in the
00:30:32.180
West. All of these companies in Silicon Valley, think about Uber, eBay, even Facebook, they have
00:30:38.720
these hidden scores about users. So Facebook has a score that it gives every user. And if you fall below
00:30:46.260
a certain score, you'll get banned. You're very right. And we know this. On Uber, customers can rank,
00:30:55.220
can rate the driver out of five stars. The drivers rate the customers too. Now, at least that's based
00:31:02.380
on a human interaction. Were you respectful of the taxi driver and vice versa? But these other things
00:31:08.220
you're talking about, who knows what the causes or the criteria are for that? And you can't, that's
00:31:15.800
like your credit rating. You can't dodge that. That's like a credit bureau. But instead of, you know,
00:31:20.420
did you pay your bills on time? It's, did you say something you're not allowed to say?
00:31:25.300
Yeah. And both Twitter and Facebook have these internal ratings that are totally hidden, by the
00:31:29.600
way. You don't get to see your rating. And if you imagine a future where these companies cooperate,
00:31:36.720
some more, not hard to imagine, and they all put their rating scores together, then you just have
00:31:41.060
a Chinese-style social credit system, except it's coming from corporations rather than the state.
00:31:47.500
And I think that that's important because in countries like communist China, the oppression
00:31:51.800
does come from the state. But increasingly here in the West, we see crackdowns and oppression and
00:31:58.100
censorship coming from private companies. Yeah. Well, and of course,
00:32:01.720
the crackdown in China is from the state, but they use the crony capitalist links to companies to
00:32:10.020
affect it for them. They really contract out their censorship in so many ways. That's what they're doing
00:32:15.020
with Google. And of course, in North America, the merger between big tech and big government is almost
00:32:20.940
complete. I mean, my least favorite example is how Jeff Bezos of Amazon has a half billion dollar data
00:32:29.100
management contract with the CIA. Again, sounds like a conspiracy theory, but there's some people,
00:32:35.340
sociopaths, power-hungry people, who have always been attracted to government. You can sort of tell
00:32:41.280
they want to lord it over people, but we've always had checks and balances, the Constitution,
00:32:45.840
an official opposition, elections even, to throw people out. In many ways, Google, YouTube,
00:32:52.820
Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, Apple, they have unfettered, you mentioned the Communications Decency Act,
00:33:00.500
Section 230. That gives a power to private actors that no one in government has. And so in some way,
00:33:11.980
Sunder Pichai, who was the person being shouted at by Alex Jones there, I don't know if he got into tech
00:33:18.320
because he liked the science of it, but I imagine that there are armies of authoritarian bullies,
00:33:24.540
power-hungry people who say, wow, I want to lord it over people. Forget about going into government.
00:33:29.760
Forget about being a cop or a prison guard. Tech is the place. I think it maybe attracts sociopaths now.
00:33:38.440
Sure, and it's been well known that there's a greater proportion of psychopaths in finance,
00:33:45.520
for example, and in politics than there are in other industries. It stands to reason that tech
00:33:51.700
would have the same sort of effect. And actually, you know, people close to Mark Zuckerberg say he's
00:33:56.000
apparently obsessed with Augustus Caesar, which is kind of troubling given the amount of power he has.
00:34:04.000
It's, you know, as I was saying earlier, these companies have such vast power at the moment over
00:34:08.900
every aspect of our lives, they've become, in a sense, more influential and more powerful than the
00:34:13.800
state has. And really, it's also the scarier thing is the merging of technological and state power.
00:34:20.920
So you imagine a company like Google working with a country like China. That's a terrifying
00:34:26.300
thought because Google has the power to spy on people and to monitor them. That goes way beyond
00:34:33.600
anything that the authoritarian regimes of the 20th century had. You think of the Stasi in Germany,
00:34:38.820
you think of the Soviet secret police, they did not have the kind of abilities that Google had,
00:34:44.600
they just didn't have the technology to do it. So a company like Google working with a country like
00:34:49.060
China just creates a, would create an incredible level of tyranny. But going back to something more
00:34:56.600
relevant to the lives of our viewers in the West, what we saw at this hearing was,
00:35:02.940
on the one hand, I thought the Republicans were very good. They seemed to be getting a handle on
00:35:07.140
the issue. It's a shame it's happened so late when they're about to lose their majority in the House,
00:35:11.640
but they did seem to understand that. But you also saw the Democrats repeatedly asking Google,
00:35:17.020
what are your policies on hate speech? Why aren't you doing more to crack down on hate speech?
00:35:21.380
So what we're seeing now is politicians and media companies who can't get around the First
00:35:29.320
Amendment in America. They can't pass legislation banning speech they don't like. Instead,
00:35:34.260
outsourcing their censorship and their political correctness to Google by putting pressure on them
00:35:39.060
to get rid of expression and speech that they hate. Yeah. Well, the tech companies are colonizing
00:35:44.100
Congress. They're now by far the largest employer of lobbyists, the biggest spenders on lobbying
00:35:52.200
on Capitol Hill. And in fact, I think it was Gerald Nadler, the Democrat, who led the softball
00:35:57.980
questions on Google, is the largest recipient by Google. Yeah, he's the largest donor. I mean,
00:36:05.060
and really, I think he got, what, 30 grand or something from Google. That's like one tenth of a second
00:36:10.040
of their profits. I mean, it's just chump shape. They can't believe how cheap it is to buy
00:36:15.500
congressmen. I want to come back just one last time to Alex Jones, because it was a shocking video
00:36:21.780
clip, but it was actually deeply sad to me, because there's a man who, until a few months ago,
00:36:27.640
had more than two million YouTube viewers, had huge, you know, like him or hate him, he had a
00:36:32.880
voice. He had a platform. And if you're a YouTube subscriber, he had two million subscribers. That
00:36:38.260
means two million people say, I want to hear what this guy has to say, either because I agree with
00:36:42.080
him, or I like to laugh at him, or I want to know what the others, so two million people voluntarily
00:36:46.280
said, I want to hear what he has to say. He's been kicked off of everything. And so, in a way,
00:36:51.580
what can he do besides shout? What can he do besides shout? I mean, I suppose they could
00:36:58.680
physically tape up his mouth, but they kicked him off Apple. They kicked him off YouTube, Twitter,
00:37:03.460
Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, bizarrely. Pinterest, how do you kick someone off that? He kicked him out,
00:37:10.200
and all on the same day. Don't tell me there's not collusion here. I'm sympathetic to a man shouting
00:37:18.680
at an executive who just ended his life, his public life, trying to end his business. I'm
00:37:25.760
sympathetic to a man being angry. Frankly, it reminds me of this Iranian girl who, a few months
00:37:33.540
back, actually, she was mad that she thought YouTube was censoring her vegan fitness videos.
00:37:40.740
Do you remember who I'm talking about? And she actually went down to YouTube headquarters
00:37:44.260
and tried to kill people. Now, she was very bad with firearms, and she didn't kill anybody,
00:37:48.680
thank God. But like you say, you shout at a guy, God forbid you assassinate a guy. I don't want
00:37:54.540
that to happen. But if there's no other accountability, that's what's going to happen.
00:37:57.700
I mean, when it comes to the platforming, I mean, this has sort of happened to everyone
00:38:09.860
recently. It seems to be exhilarating. We saw Gavin McInnes kicked off all sorts of platforms,
00:38:15.120
Facebook, Twitter, briefly kicked off YouTube, although they later reinstated his account.
00:38:20.580
We saw Laura Loomer kicked off Twitter. We saw Sargon of Picard kicked off Patreon. There's just
00:38:26.700
been this wave of suspensions recently. And also before the election, Facebook suspended
00:38:33.120
over 800 accounts in news sites. They spent the account of one person who claimed to have
00:38:38.020
invested 300,000 in Facebook ads. And, you know, they were able to do this without even
00:38:43.660
compensating people for the time and money they invest in these platforms, just suddenly
00:38:48.280
take away people's means of making a living today. So, you know, it has a dramatic effect
00:38:54.040
on people's personal lives. So it's, it's little wonder that, you know, they're getting shouted
00:39:04.200
Let me ask, how's it going to end, Alan? You mentioned that the Republicans have finally
00:39:08.440
woken up to some of the real issues here, but they're going to lose their control of the
00:39:12.820
House of Representatives next month. Donald Trump and his campaign director for 2020, Brad
00:39:20.760
Parscale seems, Parscale seems pretty woke to these issues. And Trump occasionally tweets
00:39:26.800
about it. But I've come to learn that Donald Trump's tweets sometimes are just him blowing
00:39:33.760
off steam. I mean, if he hasn't taken any steps to crack down on, on this, on the, this censorship
00:39:41.600
on the internet any more than he has building the wall. And frankly, I'm getting a little tired
00:39:45.580
of him saying, Oh, we're going to do something and never doing it. How's this going to end, Alan?
00:39:50.940
Well, yeah, when it comes to the Trump administration, they've just, you know, he signed USMCA and USMCA
00:39:58.240
has a provision in it, 1917, which is essentially a repeat of section 230. It gives tech companies
00:40:06.120
broad legal immunity to censor whatever they want. It also gives them immunity from lawsuits
00:40:12.420
regarding speech. So, you know, if Wikipedia defames you, you can't sue Google, despite the
00:40:16.220
fact that they put Wikipedia at the top of their search results, which, you know, as Louis
00:40:20.380
Guillermo says, that that strikes me as kind of unjustified, especially when they're behaving
00:40:24.140
more like publishers rather than platforms. So USMCA, Trump's trade bill actually, actually
00:40:29.840
has that provision. And it's a lot harder to repeal a trade bill than it is to repeal a piece
00:40:34.060
of domestic legislation. So yeah, I'm not too happy with what the Trump administration is
00:40:41.060
doing either. I mean, you know, I probably have what they're saying. They're saying good
00:40:44.460
things, but their actions aren't matching up to their words. And, you know, maybe it's
00:40:49.480
not the president's fault. Maybe it's not Pascal's fault. Jared Kushner had a lot of influence
00:40:55.160
over drafting this trade bill. Mexico actually gave him a medal, their highest honor for his
00:40:59.220
work on the trade bill. So this is what happens when you put the wrong people in charge of policy
00:41:04.320
that's important to the country. What I find interesting is that Google and Twitter and
00:41:11.080
YouTube themselves don't want legislation that sort of takes responsibility away from
00:41:15.360
them for censorship. Because currently, when someone loses their livelihood on social media,
00:41:22.200
they're the ones who get blamed for it. And as you said, this is even extended now to acts
00:41:28.200
of violence and terrorism record of these companies, which is, of course, totally unjustified.
00:41:34.280
But if I was in the position of these CEOs, I wouldn't want all that responsibility. I wouldn't
00:41:38.720
want all that power over people's lives. I'd want Congress to come and say, OK, these are
00:41:44.320
now public squares. So we're going to apply the First Amendment and you no longer have the
00:41:48.080
power to arbitrarily censor. When they do, if Congress does that, then these social media
00:41:54.040
companies will be able to turn to all the people who are pressuring them, all the media
00:41:57.500
companies or the advertisers and say, well, look, our hands are tied. We can't do anything.
00:42:01.980
It would actually be they'd be able to just, you know, get get back to the business of just
00:42:06.100
providing a good product that works. And they do provide good product. That's why so many
00:42:09.880
people use Google and other services. But they've currently got this in this weird position where
00:42:16.720
they're expected to take moral responsibility for every piece of content on their platform and
00:42:24.060
take responsibility for protecting everyone in the world from fake news and misinformation
00:42:28.540
and propaganda, which is totally bizarre. You can't place a few random CEOs in such a position.
00:42:36.600
You can't place anyone in such a position. It should be up to ordinary people to decide what's
00:42:41.620
fake news or not, to decide what's a conspiracy theory or not. This whole idea that the small
00:42:47.680
group of Silicon Valley CEOs have to protect us all from bad information and bad speech is just
00:42:53.180
incredibly paternalistic and very authoritarian.
00:42:56.920
Yeah. Well, I don't see things getting fixed in the near term, and I'm losing faith that Trump
00:43:02.400
will solve it. But I really appreciate your advice and expertise over the course of the past year.
00:43:10.720
There you have it. Alan Bokhari. He's the chief tech correspondent for Breitbart.com.
00:43:28.320
Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about a Canadian immigration judge letting in a Somali
00:43:32.880
gangster as a refugee because he was so honest. Tammy writes,
00:43:39.500
Immigration judge Trent Cook should be suspended without pay and face a judicial disciplinary committee
00:43:44.000
without delay. Unbelievable negligence and willful blindness of the facts.
00:43:52.420
If you're in the private sector and you make such a devastatingly wrong decision,
00:43:57.660
I guess if you have honor, you resign or you offer your resignation if you're not sacked.
00:44:03.020
You know, there are still some countries in the world where they have that kind of honor.
00:44:05.780
Occasionally you see it in places like Korea or Japan.
00:44:08.740
You see a political leader who did something wrong and he bows so deeply and he resigns in disgrace.
00:44:15.600
They still, there are still some places in the world that have that kind of code of honor.
00:44:21.440
Justin Trudeau's Canada ain't one of them, sister.
00:44:26.840
Canada is presently considered to be one of the easiest marks in the world for migrants and I sincerely hope I live long enough to see that problem corrected.
00:44:38.240
I mean, remember a few weeks ago we were talking to Alessandro Bocchi from Milan, Italy and we were talking about Matteo Salvini.
00:44:49.320
Matteo Salvini, the interior minister, who said he was going to deport half a million illegal migrants.
00:44:55.300
Now he said that and he's talking tough and he cut off the flow into Italy.
00:45:06.500
I mean, that's, what's that, 2,000 airplanes full?
00:45:11.940
That's just, that's just, how's it even going to happen?
00:45:25.560
That's why he set up a welcome station at Roxham Road there.
00:45:28.800
Because he knows you get them in, they're never out.
00:45:39.220
I think you're talking about Abdullahi Farah, the Somali outlaw.
00:45:45.220
But there's so many people that could apply to, really.
00:45:47.820
I mean, in the world of Justin Trudeau, except one.
00:45:50.760
The one moment that Justin Trudeau discovers that teeny tiny fiscal conservative inside him
00:45:59.980
Either the military veteran in Alberta, to whom Trudeau said,
00:46:03.780
I'm sorry, you're asking for more than we can give.
00:46:05.620
Or the military base in Alberta that just shut down Maple Flag, the annual training event.
00:46:14.820
The only moment in his life, Justin Trudeau as a fiscal conservative,
00:46:18.980
is when it's dealing with a soldier or a veteran.
00:46:21.340
And if they're from Alberta, it comes out even stronger.
00:46:34.220
And we have to fight because, one after another, the lamps are going out in Canadian media.
00:46:39.320
And by that I mean, journalists are making the decision that they will take Justin Trudeau's cash.
00:46:45.480
They will take it, or they will let their bosses make the decision.
00:46:49.480
Paul Godfrey, the CEO of Post Media, was thrilled with Trudeau's announcement of $595 million.
00:46:54.760
And he said in public, for all his media, all his journalists to see,
00:46:58.080
we should be doing a victory lap around the office right now in celebration.
00:47:03.080
And every bloody one of them will take the cash.
00:47:05.780
You tell me if a single journalist at a single outlet leaves saying,
00:47:14.620
If you find such a person, bring them to my attention.
00:47:25.260
But us, I swear to you, on God's altar, that I will not take a dime from Justin Trudeau.
00:47:32.020
And if I do, well, you will fire me that moment.
00:47:38.600
Because then I'm not a journalist anymore, am I?
00:47:46.320
Over the weekend, we've got some more YouTube videos going up.
00:47:48.380
Sheila Gunn-Reed is coming home tomorrow from Katowice, Poland.
00:47:53.180
You can see the rest of our videos at rebelun.com.
00:47:55.560
David Manzies, my Desert Rose, has returned safely to the warm embrace of our Toronto office.