Does Trudau want to phase out oil, or subsidize it？ Depends what province the oil comes from.
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Justin Trudeau wants to phase out oil and gas, but it depends on which province the oil comes from. Is it Alberta or B.C.? Ezra Levenant explains why this is a big deal, and why it's a bad idea.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today I tell you the most startling announcement by Seamus O'Regan,
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the dumbest of the cabinet ministers. I thought for sure they were against oil and gas and carbon,
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but then I saw an announcement by O'Regan that he's going to subsidize about a quarter billion
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dollars worth of oil and gas. What gives? I'll do my best to explain. That's ahead,
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Tonight, does Trudeau want to phase out oil or subsidize it? Depends on what province the oil
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comes from. It's September 28th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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It's not news that Justin Trudeau believes in phasing out the oil sands. He has said so too
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I've said time and time again, and you're all tired of hearing me say it, you can't make a choice
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between what's good for the environment and what's good for the economy. We can't shut down
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the oil sands tomorrow. We need to phase them out. We need to manage the transition off of our
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dependence on fossil fuels. That was a couple years back, and here it is in the throne speech
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just last week. Canada cannot reach net zero without the know-how of the energy sector
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and the innovative ideas of all Canadians, including people in places like British Columbia,
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Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Newfoundland, and Labrador. The government will support manufacturing,
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natural resource, and energy sectors as they work to transform to meet a net zero future,
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Here's another recent example, if you need more convincing.
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Talena's question about decarbonization as part of our economic plan going forward,
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And here's Seamus O'Regan in a three-way tie with Catherine McKenna and Stephen Gilbeau
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for the dumbest cabinet minister. Let's just be honest about that, okay?
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Here he is saying that he loves these certain things about Alberta. He says,
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Alberta is hydrogen. Alberta is batteries. Alberta is carbon capture technology. Alberta is geothermal
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energy. Alberta is electric vehicles. Alberta is vital to Canada's clean energy future.
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None of that's true. Alberta is oil and gas. Everything else listed there is a gimmick,
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a stunt, or in the case of the liberals, a lobbyist scam to get grant money. There are no
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electric vehicles made in Alberta. There are none. Actually, there's none made anywhere in Canada.
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There are a few gimmicky hybrids made in Ontario, but every single vehicle manufactured for commercial
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use in Canada, they run on gasoline or diesel. Seamus O'Regan might not be lying to you, though,
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because lying means that he knows that he's wrong and he's deliberately deceiving you.
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I think he's so dumb. I think it's just as likely that he's just so ill-informed. He thinks that Alberta
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is batteries and electric vehicles. He really is that stupid.
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Some people call him Seamus O'Regan. I think that's probably an apt phrase for him.
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And that's just what his friends have to say about him. The only reason Seamus O'Regan is in cabinet
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is because he was part of Justin Trudeau's wedding party. I'm surprised that the caterer isn't in
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cabinet, too. So we know all that. Trudeau and his cabinet hate Alberta oil. Yeah, we know that.
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Stephen Gilboa, the heritage minister who still sits in cabinet to talk about every other issue,
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too. He was literally charged, tried, convicted of a crime in his environmental extremism. He's a
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lawbreaker. His whole life has been dedicated to wiping out Alberta oil. That's why Trudeau
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canceled the Northern Gateway Pipeline and canceled the Energy East Pipeline and has delayed the
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Trans Mountain Pipeline. Let's be honest, it's never going to be built through British Columbia.
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Trudeau would never raise a hand against Gerald Butt's street gangs who explicitly say they'll block
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pipelines through violence. I mean, here's Gerald Butt's himself talking about pipelines.
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So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another route for
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a pipeline. Because the real alternative is not an alternative route. It's an alternative economy.
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Yeah, they hate oil. Do you still not know that? Except that, of course, they don't quite hate oil.
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They certainly use a lot of it themselves. Private jets, for example. Trudeau
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himself sets the example, and every two-bit cabinet minister copies him, using private jets like you
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and I would use taxis and sending taxpayers the bill. Oregon is such a unique combination of vanity
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and stupidity, though. He really is quite something. Look at this tweet he published on purpose. It's a
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glamour shot of him in a private jet at sundown, reading his notes, speaking in grave tones about
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walking the road of reconciliation together. What a great and noble white man coming on his private jet
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to help the little indigenous people below. There's still no clean drinking water on plenty of
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Indian reserves, but there's that gorgeous glamour shot of him in a jet. Oregon was fired from that
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portfolio and given the job that no one in the entire Liberal cabinet wants. It's the worst job in any
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Trudeau government. Energy minister. Now, in a normal government, that is a great job. Energy is
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Canada's most valuable export. It's Canada's high-tech job-creating companies. Speaking of
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indigenous people, it's the largest employer of Aboriginal workers in Canada. So what a great
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industry. What a great job to be minister of. But under Trudeau, it's like being minister of defense.
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Everyone knows Trudeau hates the troops. So as defense minister, you really have to hate your own
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portfolio and the people in it. Same with the energy minister. So they gave it to the guy everyone
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in cabinet thinks is the village idiot because they really don't care if he screws it up. Screwing it up
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is actually Trudeau's plan. So Oregon hates oil and gas. He hates pipelines. He thinks Alberta is about
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batteries and electric cars. Got it. Yeah. Okay. But then look at this. Look at this. We're investing
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320 million dollars in Newfoundland and Labrador's offshore workers. We believe in our workers in this
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industry and in their future. This is about jobs. This is about ensuring a prosperous future for our
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offshore. You didn't use the word oil there, but that's what he means by offshore. Hang on. You saw that
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they've all said Alberta has to phase out oil and gas. They just said Alberta has to decarbonize. They just
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killed three pipelines that would take export oil from Alberta to the world. But it's clear now,
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isn't it? Seamus O'Regan, the IQ of 80 jet setter, doesn't really hate oil, silly. Canada's burning just
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as much oil as we ever do. We're just importing more oil from America by rail, from Saudi Arabia by
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tankership. Trudeau's carbon tax doesn't touch those imports just made in Alberta oil. Trudeau never
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hated oil. In fact, Trudeau's grandfather owned a chain of gas stations. It's the source of the
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Trudeau family's wealth. It's why no Trudeau has had to work for a living in nearly a hundred years.
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Trudeau doesn't hate Alberta oil, people. He just hates Alberta. Don't ever forget that.
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Well, it was Ronald Reagan who quipped the government's approach to business is,
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if something's moving, tax it. If it's still moving, regulate it. When it stops moving,
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subsidize it. That seems to be Justin Trudeau's approach with oil, I think, after taxing and
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regulating it to death, at least in Alberta, Seamus O'Regan, perhaps the dumbest cabinet minister in
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the country, has announced a massive subsidy for oil, but only oil in O'Regan's region of Atlantic Canada.
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It's very strange because I thought we were supposed to decarbonize and have a
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net zero carbon future, don't you know? Well, compare that to the approach taken by Donald
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Trump in the United States, who says, drill, dig, mine, go for it, frack like crazy. And most recently,
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he signed a permit for the A2A cross-border rail project. That stands for Alaska to Alberta,
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a proposed $22 billion railway that would ship not just oil, but other commodities from the
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Canadian heartland in Alberta through the Yukon into Alaska and out by their ports. Now, approving
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the permit is not the same as approving the project. It still has to go through some environmental
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assessments on the U.S. side, but would this project ever be allowed to live on the Canadian
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side? Joining us now via Skype is our friend, our Alberta Bureau chief and our chief reporter,
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Sheila Gunn-Reed. Sheila, great to see you again. Hey, Ezra, thanks for having me on the show.
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Welcome on. It's my pleasure. And you, in many ways, are our oil and gas expert. Look, it's one thing for
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President Trump to say, yeah, guys, go for it. $22 billion rail line, I'm all for it. And I think that
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the U.S. side would probably approve it. Alaska is very pro-development for oil and gas and railway
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and forestry. That's the culture up there. I don't think any problems would come on the U.S. side, but
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I have a tough time believing that Justin Trudeau would permit a rail line like this in Canada.
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I do too. And I think this rail line has a long way to go and a lot of liberal hurdles are in its way.
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remaining, because it does have to go through the environmental impact assessment. And that's done
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through Environment Canada. And it has to be found in the public interest, which is a very vague way
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of saying, do the liberals like it or not? And this thing will have to go through the GBA plus process,
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which is the gender-based analysis plus process. So before Alberta is allowed to take advantage
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of 2,600 kilometers of track, a $22 billion construction project, something that will not
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just move oil, because this is a pipeline by rail, but other fossil fuels through there,
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as well as food, which is great for Alaska to be able to access Alberta foodstuffs, because the cost
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of living is so expensive up there. Before all of that happens, we have to go through former
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Environment Minister Catherine McKenna's process of making sure that no women and sexual minorities'
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feelings are hurt before they can start construction.
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Yeah. Now, I note that according to A2A, the company itself, there will be 18,000 jobs. And when you think
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about building a railway, some of that is easy terrain, but some of it is not. There's bridges,
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there's tunnels, there's engineering, there's construction. By the way, I am certain that a lot
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of that construction would be done by Indigenous Canadians, not just because I'm sure the railway would
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make those deals with local Indian bands. But that's who's living up there. So this would be an
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enormous, I mean, $22 billion to begin with, is more expensive than any of the proposed pipelines
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were. The Energy East pipeline, which was the most expensive one on the books, was $15.7 billion
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when it was nuked by Trudeau. So this, I mean, a $22 billion project, the amount of families this will
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feed, the amount of families this will hire. And these are real jobs, not fake CERB don't work
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payments. This, I mean, the Liberal government makes big press release announcements for $50,000
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patronage type grants. A $22 billion project would be immediately the biggest infrastructure project
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in Canada. And I am just as certain that it will be killed as the other projects I've named.
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Well, and what they are going to kill, if they do indeed kill it, is a marvel of modern engineering.
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We have to remember that this rail line will go places where roads are unable to be built. I remember
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just a couple of years ago, a gravel highway in the north was, you know, celebrated as something that
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we would never see. There are no year round roads in some of these places. So getting food in and
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getting resources in is something that either only happens in the summer or happens by barge or is flown
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in. And the benefit to people along this rail line is going to be huge. And again, the Liberals could
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very well cancel it because it will be, for all intents and purposes, a pipeline by rail and they
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just can't have that. Yeah. You know, I used to study oil a lot more carefully when I was doing the
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ethical oil project as an NGO. I still followed a lot, of course, but I was really into the nitty gritty.
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And one of the things I learned was that under Canadian law, you can ship anything by rail. You
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can ship nuclear waste, you can ship oil, you can ship anything toxic or whatever. As long as you're
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containing it lawfully and properly, there is no hearing, there is no way to stop a certain thing
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being put on a train. So by the way, you can have nuclear materials, you could have missiles, you could
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have oil, of course, travel on any railway in Canada. And there is no environmental way to stop
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it as long as you're following the law. And that's fine. There are no nuclear accidents. Oil derailments
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are rare. They're more common than a pipeline accident. But we just take it for granted that
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pipeline, sorry, that the railways take things. It's actually because they're immune to the kind of
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nitpicking that pipelines go through. That's why this is a brilliant idea. Because once the railway is
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built, you can put anything on it. But the thing is, I think the liberals are wise to that. And although
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this would be a huge benefit to the northern communities, it would be a huge benefit to agriculture,
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to mining. I think Trudeau and his people would say, yeah, what you really want is an oil pipeline on
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on rails that we can't nitpick to death, like we did with Northern Gateway, Energy East, Trans Mountain,
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and the others that they've killed. So I think that, I mean, just the construction aside,
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putting this into, I mean, I'm looking at the map. Canada is the greatest beneficiary of this railway.
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Yeah, it is. There is much more of it in Canada than there is in the US. 22 billion of foreign money
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to build our infrastructure is a dream come true. Trudeau's going to kill it. I'm just telling you
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right now he's going to kill it. Well, of course, it's a net benefit to Alberta. And I'm curious to
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see how the conservatives, the official conservatives and otherwise, are going to respond to Trump once
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again stepping up and helping the Canadian oil patch. Because he's really the only one who's helping get
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projects done from Keystone XL to this. I did see that Jason Kenney came out and expressed gratitude
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for President Trump for approving the permit. But I haven't heard a lot from the official conservatives
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in Ottawa, but maybe they could set aside their Trump bashing for once and realize how detrimental
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their constant Trump bashing is to us here in Alberta. Yeah. You know, the Keystone XL pipeline,
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I maintain, will be the only oil pipeline built to Alberta as long as the Liberals are in office. I
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just simply believe that. Trudeau and Gerald Butz believed it was dead as a doornail because Obama
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was against it, Clinton was against it, and neither of them imagined that Trump would win in 2016. So
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they said, oh, that's the pipeline we're okay with, they all said, assuming it was dead, so no one would
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actually call them on their bluff. It was their way of proving they were open-minded. So they all said,
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yeah, we support the Keystone XL pipeline, knowing that Al Gore, sorry, I said Al Gore, well,
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he was against it. But that Hillary Clinton was against it, that Obama was against it. Sorry,
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I mentioned Al Gore, he was against it, obviously. They just didn't count on Trump. So I think that's
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the only one that's going to be built. I maintain that although the Trans Mountain pipeline is being
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busily built in Alberta, and we'll probably have little problem in northern BC, when that expansion
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makes its way down to the lower mainland of Vancouver area, Burnaby, there's going to be riots,
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there's going to be eco-terrorists bust in. All these riots and Antifa riots you see in Seattle,
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they're going to get on buses and come up to Burnaby, BC. You're going to see thousands of
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Antifa-style terrorists, and you think Justin Trudeau's going to raise a finger and stop them?
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You know, we're going to see protest encampments, we're going to see foreign money
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just piling into the country. We know the Liberals have done nothing to stop it.
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Jason Kenney here in Alberta has mused about investigating the sources of the foreign funding,
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but nothing has been done substantially to cut off the ability of foreign money to flood in
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and influence Canadian politics. So I think you are right. When this pipeline gets to somewhere near
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the lower mainland of BC, we're going to see an absolute cease to construction, riots. I think
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we're going to see violence because it's going to come down to people who are desperate to feed their
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families versus people who are receiving money to block that pipeline. And I can't see that Justin
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Trudeau is in any position or has the will to do anything about it.
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Yeah. You know, a couple of years ago, I first came across my favorite U.S. governor in South Dakota.
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Her name is Kristi Noem, N-O-E-M. And I was just a fan for a whole bunch of reasons. But
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some viewers might recall I did a couple of shows on her legislation called Riot Boosting. And I had never
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heard that word before, but I read the legislation, very short bill. It's anyone who boosts a riot, promotes
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it, organizes it, funds it, that they call that riot boosting, is on the hook for the financial
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damage of the riot. And it goes further. It allows private people to sue. You don't have to rely on
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a prosecutor in the government to sue. And you can sue for multiple. So Kristi Noem, who has since
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gone on to national prominence, she co-hosted a rally with Donald Trump. I think she's amazing.
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Lately, she has touted South Dakota as the freest state in the union in regards to pandemic panic.
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There is none in South Dakota. It's the freest state. She brought in that riot boosting legislation.
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I'm not sure what the state of the legislation is. I know she introduced it. That is something
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that Jason Kenney and every other provincial and territorial government must do. I know that's not
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enough. You need a prime minister that's going to enforce the law. You need an RCMP commissioner
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who's going to enforce the law. We have neither of those things right now.
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You know what? I almost, and I'm sorry I'm rambling a bit here, Sheila. You tell me what you think. I'm
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almost reluctant to even say, hooray, look at this, because I am so certain this is still born.
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I am so certain that this company, A2A Rail, has no idea what they're doing, and they're going to be
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destroyed as if they were some naive investor investing in Nigeria and thought that there was
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the rule of law there. I think that this company is going to be killed, if not by Trudeau, then by
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Trudeau's allies like Gerald Butts and Sappora Berman. Sorry for the rant. No, I think you're
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absolutely right, especially when you see companies that have had to shelve pipeline projects. It's not
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just shelving pipeline projects like Energy East. TransCanada had to go on and change their name to
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remove the name Canada from their name because of the stigma. It's now called TC Energy, because there's
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a certain stigma in doing business in Canada, as in you can't even do business at all. So,
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you know, Godspeed to this rail company. I appreciate their seeing the potential in Alberta,
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but I think they're in for a wild ride, and I don't know if they know what they just signed up for,
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because I cannot anticipate even a decision coming down on this for years and years and years.
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Yeah. You know, Lauren Gunter was on the show the other day. He reminded me that tech on their
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frontier mind, they put a billion dollars into, and they just walked away. They said, yeah, no,
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thanks. Let me just read in closing a little comment from the founder of A2A Rail, Sean McCoshen. I got to
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find out a little bit more about him. He sounds like a well-intentioned, hail fellow, well-met,
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friendly American who's about to be liberated of a billion dollars by the Trudeau-Butts mob. Let me
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just say what he says. He says, this is a world-class infrastructure project that will generate more
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than 18,000 jobs for Canadian workers at a time when they are most needed, provide a new, more
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efficient route for Trans-Pacific shipping, and thereby link Alberta to world markets. And I'm just
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thinking, Sean, you didn't mention gender identity there. Sean, you didn't mention green energy, or
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taking climate action, or where's your racial prism? You didn't mention racialized workers, Sean.
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Sean, it sounds like you're living in the 20th century, not the woke 21st century. I like this guy,
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but I'm very sad for him. He's about to be liberated of a lot of his money and his time
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by some bad faith dealers. Last word to you, Sheila. Sean just listed all the reasons the
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Liberals are going to stand in the way of this project, that it provides well-paying jobs for
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Alberta, that it will move an Alberta product, and that it will get Alberta market access to world
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markets. Those are three big reasons why the Liberals are going to say no. You know, that is very sad,
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and it's very true. I hope that you're wrong, but I know that you're right. Sheila Gunner-Reed,
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thanks for joining us today. All right, there you have it. Sheila Gunner-Reed, our favorite person,
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chief reporter, Alberta bureau chief, and she is unfortunately dead right on this one, friends.
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On my monologue today about a Prius driver caught in protest, David writes,
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cops arrested the Prius driver for not being killed.
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You know what? If you are in a mob, you've got to keep on driving. That mob will tear you to pieces.
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I'm sorry. We've just seen that enough, haven't we?
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CGH says, ridiculous. What about the people obstructing and holding this person hostage and
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not letting him go freely and assaulting him in his car? Look, that is what the blue state America
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wants. Sanctuary cities, defunding police, abolished police, George Soros DAs who don't charge for
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assaults on police. And really, would you want to be a cop risking your life? For what? To be on a
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cell phone video and called racist? Nah. That's the future that they want for all America, not just
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the blue states. Wes writes, there's a mass exit from California right now with many fleeing to
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Texas. Hopefully they do not bring their poisonous liberal ideas with them. But of course they will.
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Of course they will. I think that's the liberal way. It makes me sad. Texas is so amazing. I think
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the spirit of Texas today was the spirit of California 50 years ago. Of unbridled opportunity,
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of progress, of science, of people power. I mean, California really was the dream. It was the most
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American of the American states. Now it's becoming a shell. Like Detroit was the most American of American
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cities 100 years ago. It's hard to believe when you see the burnt out husks of so many abandoned
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buildings that Detroit once had the highest industrial wage in the United States. We can't
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even believe that now. But it was the place that everyone wanted to go. It was culturally amazing
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too. Motor City, Motown. Things can change. Politics can kill a place. If you don't believe me, look at
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Venezuela. Once the world's fourth richest country. Well, my friends, that's our show for today.
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Anyway, I'm excited about tomorrow. We've got regular shows for you. But it's going to be the
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first Trump-Biden debate. I'm actually a little bit surprised that Joe Biden hasn't called in sick
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saying, I've got the COVID. I've got to skip it. Maybe we'll learn that tomorrow morning.
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Anyways, we'll have a live stream coverage of that. I hope you join us tomorrow night.
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I'll see you tomorrow. On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,