Eric Butler： “Critical Race Theory is Mental Gymnastics”
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Eric Butler is an independent reporter who covers the urban decay of some of America s biggest cities, including NYC and San Francisco, where he's lived for the last several years. His newly released book, New York City 2020: Gotham Unglued, is available on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
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Eric Butler is an independent reporter who covers the urban decay of some of America's
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biggest cities including NYC and San Francisco where he's lived. You can watch him on the podcast
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Unauthorized Opinions with yours truly on Instagram at Report and Opine and also his
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newly released book is out New York City 2020 Gotham Unglued available on Amazon and Barnes
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Noble. Eric how are you doing today thanks for joining me. Absolutely amazing thank you for
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having me. No problem now you chronicled the abhorrent state of places of NYC and San Francisco
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where you've lived over the last couple of years now what exactly prompted you to start doing this
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was it failed government policy was it culture what made you want to start recording and taking
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pictures of all this stuff? Well really it was just being in New York and not being able to go to work
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right I mean they told us that the virus was outside your front door and that going to the
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office you know participating in the New York City economy was just deadly so when they told me not
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to leave home I naturally had to had to figure out what was really going on and I just I really just
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started I never set out to make a book right I just set out to explore some parts of New York that I had
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never seen take the train to stops that I had never been to and it wasn't until much later when I had
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accumulated thousands of photos that I decided I might want to make it into a little bit more
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permanent project. I want to show some of the crime which is exactly what I think you're talking about
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and it's gotten worse for the last year you mentioned stuff like subway stabbings here's one man
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stabbed Rob in Queens subway station I from what I've read the attacks in subways attempted murder of
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people being pushed on the tracks has gone up exponentially there's also been armed robberies
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I think we have a news article clipping for that as well yes stealing candy and socks from Times Square
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is M&M store is this a result of defunding the police Eric is another policy or is it culture what
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are the answers here to the problems that we're seeing what's the cause? You know that's a really
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tough question because I think we all know that New York has always been a little gritty right it's never I
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mean I think you know we think about like some of the old movies and you know gangs in New York and
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it's never been like the perfect picket fence type of place um but I think that when you know when you
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had the summer of the summer of love right uh last last year 2020 I think a lot of people and this is
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just my opinion of course is that a lot of people started to realize that they could literally get away
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with anything there was no consequences because when you see that you know if you if you protest and
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you burn down everything and literally nothing happens to you then why not keep going and these
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stories that you bring up are just the most recent they're just the most notable I mean the whole reason
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I mean the straw that broke the camel's back for me when I got up and left New York was I was just
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going to work one morning when there was a a drive-by shooting outside my place at 8 a.m you know so
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and that and that never got any coverage you didn't see that on on NBC or CBS that was in in the hood
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out in Flatbush Brooklyn you know that wasn't in Times Square so it gets no it gets no coverage but
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I think uh to to answer the question I do not know I think there's a kind of a a bunch of things that
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go into this right so from people being locked up and I mean locked down I should say on top of that
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actually have let prisoners out right so they could contain the virus inside the prison but let dangerous
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people onto the streets along with the notion that there are no consequences so there's a number of
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things that go into this and it's it's scary because just when you think it hits rock bottom when I think
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it could get no worse it somehow does which is crazy do you phone the police let the prisoners
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out solid strategy now last year in New York from what I've been reading is that you were at a
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protest at City Hall I know there's videos with a lot of the stuff that happened um you were with a
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group that was I don't know if you were with them or just in the same place daring to hold copies of
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the Constitution and of course U.S. flags all very dangerous things and you guys were there's a picture
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of a guy holding the flag I think from the uh the protest there and you guys got detained at a
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police station and then two weeks later um some George Floyd protesters occupied the exact same
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park and didn't receive the same treatment am I reading that correctly well it was a little bit more
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than two weeks it was probably closer to six weeks but I mean you know at that point you're kind of
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splitting hairs right because we I think there was no more than 30 of us we're talking about two dozen
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people a lot of them you know older in age you know there was women there that were probably old
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enough to be my mom you know this was not a a violent mob of protesters with Molotov cocktails and
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spray paint these were people that just wanted to go back to work and they blasted us with propaganda
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so the cops that were there I mean there were probably more cops than there were protesters or
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rally goers or whatever you want to call it um but they were blasting us with propaganda from a boombox
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they didn't even talk to us really they just you know this gathering is unlawful it was on a recording
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but like very you know dystopian um and so they they got they gathered us up and just for the record
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I actually obeyed what they told me to do I actually have footage of of me leaving the park as they're
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telling us to leave the park I have video of the cop actually locking the gate to the park so I was doing
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what I was being told to do and I'm just walking backwards recording them and one of the guys so
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I'm walking down I'm not in the park anymore and one of the guys came from uh it's it's hard to
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explain but I was under the impression that I was doing exactly what they were telling me to do but
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apparently I didn't do it fast enough he wanted me to cross the street and I didn't cross the street
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because at that time I'm not even joking I thought if I just scurried across the street then I would get
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like a jaywalking ticket or something it was kind of a catch-22 but that was May 9th of 2020
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and then George Floyd happened to you know a year ago today May 25th and there was a less than a week
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after that the protest started in that very same park and we're talking about hundreds of people not
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two dozen you know elderly folks and a couple of college kids we're talking about hundreds of people
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from you know 20 years old all the way up to probably 50 or 60 and they camped out there in
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that very same park for three weeks and got what they were demanding from the mayor you know that's a
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very similar topic to what's happened here in Toronto um protesters which were actually um they were
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called Afro-Indigenous Rising David Manzies loves them uh uh give us back native land you're on stolen
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land uh protest that lasted three weeks at City Hall in Toronto and they uh all they had to do was leave
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and go to another park which apparently is allowed as long as you're not right on the uh City Hall
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doorsteps but very similar situations where you can't be punished for one set of politics and another
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set of politics questioning the authority is definitely um an arrestable offense I guess so you
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were were you charged or was the group you there isn't a promise to appear or what happened when you
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were brought to the police station yeah so another just weird thing is while I was actually in the
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plastic riot cuffs they after we got out of a van so nine people in a van built for 10 so no social
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distancing when we got out of the van into the police station I'm still I'm still cuffed and the guy puts a
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mask on my face for me so just think about that I just rode 20 minutes in the van with no social
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distancing and no mask so it's all just very theatrical right um and yeah they gave us a
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at least I'm pretty sure all nine of us got these uh notice to appears um I'm 99.9 percent sure that
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all of those cases were dropped and you got to keep in mind though when that happened it was already
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absurd but to to have the the double standard the hypocrisy of the Floyd protests happen a month
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later just makes it I mean it's absolutely astonishing and it just goes to tell like
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not to be hyperbolic but New York will take political prisoners like if you do not
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put you know toe the the far left wing line then they will put you in jail it's insane time to paint
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BLM on your car I think is what you're saying yeah yeah you could do that there's something else I want
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to bring up with you and it's a big movement that's happening finally trying to get critical race
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theory out of school because of the effects it has on children I want to play a clip um from a school
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board meeting uh and I want to get your opinion on what's going on here with uh parents standing up
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to their school boards parents giving Forsyth County school board members an earful if you have
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materials that you're providing where it says if you were born a white male you were born an oppressor
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you are abusing our children one speaker after another accused board members of introducing
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so-called critical race theory about whites blacks and U.S. history into the classrooms
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parents saying that CRT is now indoctrinating students disguised in the school system's
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initiatives on diversity equity and inclusion or DEI the DEI program is a Trojan horse that will
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bring in a slippery slope a slippery slope that will ultimately end in critical race theory white
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repentance and the McDonaldization of America's students please get back to just teaching our
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children math science factual history equity of opportunity and teach them how to think and not
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McDonaldization you don't hear that one too often Eric now in all seriousness to play both sides here
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is this an overreaction from parents or do you think or is this necessary
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um I think it's necessary now I don't have kids so it's not a huge issue for me but I will say that
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as far as I know growing up in California and hearing stories out in New York as an adult
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is that this is kind of the logical next step in an already corroded public school system right
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now I I can also testify to that because my mother was a teacher in California and she wouldn't send me to
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a public school now she she worked you know she was a special education teacher and she kind of knew a
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little bit more about the public school system but from from her knowledge of the system she decided to
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send me to private school and that was you know a long time ago so it makes sense that this already
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awful system is only getting worse and another thing about this critical race theory I don't you know
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I'm definitely not an expert on it I think everything has just been wedged into racism right
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I mean it right like they're literally I did I posted some things on my Instagram story a couple
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days ago where I was just googling I'm not joking kind of like how um to harken back to the Chicago
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challenge that we did um where I just would google um are microwaves racist are televisions right I was
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just putting right and you you could find a story like about how eating healthy was racist so everything
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is racist and this critical race theory to me as far as I understand it is just a form of mental
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gymnastics so that nobody has to take responsibility right well except for the the white people who are
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you know obviously the oppressors and the the mean spirited you know cause of all of our problems
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they're the only people so you can I mean right you have people out there uh that are saying white
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supremacy is the cause of the attacks on Asians that we all know are mostly happening by black people
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and think about this if we saw a white person attack an Asian person that would get wall-to-wall
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coverage for the next month but since it keeps on being black people they kind of cover it they throw a
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little blurb up there oh another attack but they don't really you know I mean think about those girls
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out in D.C. that killed that guy when they were trying to you know hijack his car but according to
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again I am not an expert on critical race theory but as I understand it you can use those sort of
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logic those that that mental gymnastics to make sure that those girls are still not responsible for
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their actions and I think that's what they're trying to do in schools and I wanted to ask you as
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well why do you think that this is not only being championed by let's say people who believe strongly in
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a black lives matter organization or or people who are black or and feel they've legitimately been
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oppressed for lack of a better word why is it also being championed by white people who end up being
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the victims or the the perpetrators of this in critical race theory the the white person is the
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person doing the oppressor impressing you're born as an oppressor just as we saw in that clip somebody
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mentioning that children probably the ages of 12 I'd have to imagine and younger in a lot of these
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cases that was in Georgia specifically that they're being taught that as soon as they get out of the
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womb they've done some sort of racial crime just by existing why do you think there are so many people
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who are willing to villainize themselves like that I I don't know man I guess it's just as a sense of
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guilt and what I think maybe is more commonly known as like the white savior complex like so they really
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think that I mean right it's so it's it's such a roundabout way of still kind of being for lack of
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a better term a white supremacist right I mean that line of thinking implies that they are better I mean
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think about the the voting thing right like oh well black people can't get an id black people don't have
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cars Joe Biden said they didn't know how to use the the internet right like I mean Joe Biden uh maybe
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I'm getting a little bit off the topic here but I think that's the line of thinking is that like well
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these people they just need help they can't do anything without us which is very strange because
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I don't remember hearing that when Barack Obama was president right but they their brains have all
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melted out of their ears since Donald Trump was president and they just don't know what to do so
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I mean think about how to to shift a little bit from critical race theory to the the term like
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structural racism or institutional racism I mean if you right like it goes without saying that people
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like Joe Biden who are getting close to 90 years old or whatever it is that have been implementing
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these laws for decades is that structure right I mean it everybody on the left the entire media
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you know conglomerate mafia big tech all of those people that is the establishment so if the if those
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people right kind of like to your point it's like you're pointing the finger at yourself almost right
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like all the white people champion critical race theory are not only the oppressors but they're
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also I mean it's just again it's I'm not like it's so I think what you're trying to say is we're so
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oppressed that we believe in the oppressors and everybody who was against the government before is
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now saying no the government is the one who we need to enforce this even though they're oppressing us
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but please help us Joe Biden I I think it has to do with not having anybody to blame now that Trump
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is no longer in office and if a lot of these places actually condemned those who were
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immediately in their city council or immediately as their mayors
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they wouldn't like the answers because in a lot of these cities like Baltimore and Chicago and
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Detroit it is black leadership but I digress on that topic I want to push over to the other side
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of the country we are also from in California there's a big push to get Gavin Newsom out now
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finally but his main competitor is no other than your favorite Caitlyn Jenner uh there's a lot of
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controversy here is it good or bad how do you see this panning out um I do not see this working um
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because a Caitlyn Jenner is just not really now of course California hates conservatives but from where
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I'm standing Caitlyn Bruce he she whatever you want to go with is not truly a conservative not just
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because of the transgender thing but I think if you look at some of her comments about uh immigration
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and and race and police reform and uh the election um those are all moderate if not a little bit left
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positions now unfortunately for Caitlyn that's not going to work because she's already come out as
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having voted for President Trump even though now she says that well the election was fine nothing was
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wrong there which you know there's still a lot to be debated but the point is that person is not
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left enough for the left they already do not like her right if you're living in California still
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Eric are you voting Caitlyn Jenner or Gavin Newsom or abstaining um I oof abstaining no I mean I
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think there's some other people I think there's a guy uh Cox or or um Major Williams uh there's a couple
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of other people who are on the ballot who probably don't stand a chance but at least at least you got
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to try because the the point I'm making is Caitlyn is too far left for an actual conservative and
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doesn't toe the line of every single weirdo left-wing policy for the left so she's in the
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middle trying to please everybody and nobody's gonna like it it's not gonna work that's what I think I
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mean now Caitlyn Jenner is under some criticism from you know the the establishment that doesn't want to
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the same establishment that wants to criticize anyone who questions anything a transgender person
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says is now criticizing Caitlyn Jenner because of a Republican uh R in front of his name in front of
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her name I think this ship this uh this clip of Jimmy Kimmel shows that the veil might be lifting
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let's play that and I want to get your reaction what I liked about Donald Trump as he was a disruptor
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you know he came in and shook the system up after Caitlyn Jenner's Fox News Town Hall Jimmy Kimmel is
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blasting the former Olympian and reality tv star for comments she made about her airplane hangar and
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California's homeless population that many called out of touch Jenner who is among those running to
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replace California Governor Gavin Newsom who will face a likely recall election in November granted her
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first interview to Fox News host Sean Hannity from her airplane hangar on Thursday's Jimmy Kimmel Live on
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ABC the host noted Jenner oddly mentioned her plane a number of times before talking about others who
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own an airplane hangar this is how well Caitlyn Jenner understands the plight of everyday Californians
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here in LA Kimmel then showed a clip from her Fox News interview where Jenner opened up about how her
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friends are quote leaving California actually my hair the guy across right away from me he was packing
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up his hangar I said where are you going and he says I'm moving to uh Sedona Arizona I can't take it in
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anymore I can't walk down the streets and see the homeless here was Kimmel's response ah homeless
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people can't walk around them can't fly over them you know the late night host went on to say this
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is it transphobic to call a trans person an ignorant a-hole I mean or does calling that trans person
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an ignorant a-hole even though she happens to be a trans person show that we don't discriminate
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against ignorant a-holes Erica reminds me of the late great comedian Patrice O'Neill would always point out
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how uncomfortable an audience can gets when he makes a joke and I feel like that's happening
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to Jimmy Kimmel's audience there he's talking about like in a form is form of elitism against
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Caitlyn Jenner yet I promise you he's got more money than her he hangs out with Howard Stern and
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everybody uh um out in Connecticut all the time he hosts all the huge Hollywood parties with the
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celebrities so for him to mock somebody for talking about their hangar which was obviously done
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so that they can avoid any uh guidelines or any laws about uh social distancing to have
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the interview and everything for him to say that is kind of just pretending like he's he's one of
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the people he's still the host of the man show that's sort of just like a beside but at the same time
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I feel like this is the same person who would be saying calling people transphobe if they if they
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question the the director of education am I wrong there do you think the the veil is starting to lift
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about what we can criticize regarding a transgender person is it just because
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Caitlyn Jenner is coming out as a republican I think a little bit of both right and let's make
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no mistake Kimmel is no more than an uh empty Hollywood puppet he is gonna he is gonna speak
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the lines right he is not gonna have any of his own thoughts he is not gonna have any of his own
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opinions he is an establishment puppet to the fullest right I mean and nobody nobody wants to talk
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about when he did blackface or when he is his his or his ex-wife or ex-girlfriend also did blackface
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and he was hey you know famous for the show with the girls jumping on trampolines and all that stuff
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right but now that he toes the line so perfectly it's all gone out the window and this is just like
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the other topics that we talked about I mean with the critical race theory it's the the mental gymnastics
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have gone full circle to the point where they are literally eat like or not literally but like
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figuratively eating their own tail right like he's it's a rich guy a rich Hollywood elite making
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fun of another rich Hollywood elite for being a rich Hollywood elite just like the white people
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that are pro critical race theory making fun of or or looking down upon other white people who are not
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for I mean it's just it is an absolute mess of these people who are who have twisted themselves up into a
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pretzel at the at the woke altar it just doesn't make any sense so but to answer your question I
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think it think about it if Caitlin if Caitlin were to run against uh Newsom as a Democrat we would it
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would be a completely different story you wouldn't be able to you wouldn't be able to talk about the
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time when she smashed somebody with their car you know what I mean but but now that now that she has an
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R in front of her name like you said you it's all fair game and and I don't know where this ends man
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I I really don't and the Bay Area California as a whole is just not looking good right now it's very sad
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last question on that subject is it better for the Republicans to sort of pitch this big tent theory and
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try to get everyone under them or to stick to their beliefs because the big argument I'm seeing um with
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Republicans or well a lot of people don't identify as Republicans anymore I shouldn't say that
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a lot of uh conservatives like I don't know if you're familiar with a young guy named Vince Dow
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he's having a lot of debates with people based on the fact that they believe Caitlyn Jenner
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albeit having good policies or not they don't think that Hispanic immigrants or residents in
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California a permanent residence immigrants citizens in California of Hispanic origins they don't think
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that they would vote for a person who's transgender so is it better for them to go with this big tent
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theory and try to prevent people from branching off or should they stick to their guns of what are
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supposed to be uh Republican uh viewpoints or opinions
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I mean I I would say stick to stick to your guns right um now unfortunately they've already given
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far too much leeway I mean I was the old saying that Republicans are just Democrats from 10 years earlier
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you know where they just keep they just keep sliding further and further left I mean I was um I was doing
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some research about the passing of medical cannabis in California and it sounds eerily similar to like
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what we're seeing now with this critical race theory and this weird uh gender ideology where it took them
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years you know over a decade chipping away at them trying to legalize weed uh George Soros was actually a part
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of that I mean you know he's famous for these hard left-wing uh movements but it's it just rings very similar
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so unfortunately I think at this point they may have to go with a big tent thing but but it's it's really
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tough to say and I only would would say that simply because they've already given up too much ground if they
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had stood their ground a decade ago then maybe you could still stand your ground but now it's like
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I can't we just not be communist that's the only thing that's a fair a fair request I think to make
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so I want to throw back Eric behind the paywall now to your second home in New York City where sports
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teams have started vaccine segregation uh for where people can sit and attend the game let's take a look
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at this video right now it was like old times in the Bronx tonight with the message vaccinate New York
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on the field fans were back at Yankee Stadium kicking off a big weekend for New York sports CBS 2's Nick
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Callaway was there well the Yankees beat the White Sox in a close one here tonight but the real winners
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here are baseball fans in New York it was a big night at Yankee Stadium
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many fans are catching a game in person for the first time since before the pandemic
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very excited to go back and actually go to a normal sporting event you know so glad to be here
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was it was like Christmas to me Dan Hollywood came with his brother a White Sox fan for some baseball and a return
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to some kind of normalcy well it's like the old days I mean last year was no games at all and
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here I am on my second game so happy you know feels back to normal their trip to the Bronx comes
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as the Yankees unveil fully vaccinated seating sections at full capacity no more social distancing
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but fans have to prove they got the shot the plan did come with some headaches Frank Ferrigno
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got his second dose a week ago only to find out that wasn't long enough to get into the fully
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vaxxed section and they won't let us in our section so now I'm running around in circles
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and now I got to swap my tickets over so it's a little frustrating the Mets announced the city
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field will have 21 sections for vaccinated fans starting Monday and it's not just baseball the
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Knicks and Nets will have fully vaccinated full capacity fan sections for playoff games starting this
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weekend it's just like the old Bronx with segregation yeah is this a good route to go down or is this just
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gonna I mean it sounds like a thin veil of coercion to me you can enjoy all this stuff if you get this
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if you buy this product and it is a product whether people want to want to say that or not were people
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duped with a false sense of freedom if they got the vaccine because this guy um who got it it's it
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hasn't been long enough buddy you've got your vaccine but you haven't gone past these extra parameters
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what do you think about all this yeah it's absolutely insane you can all already see in
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that little story about some of the hiccups that that's gonna happen and obviously I mean look if
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everybody just said no to the vaccine then it wouldn't even be a question right like they it's
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totally coercion and I mean the the list goes on right I mean I think what was it a month or six
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weeks ago where everybody laughed about the donuts and that was only the beginning right like we've
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gone from beer to plane rides to you know every single thing under the sun that they're trying to
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coerce people with to get this experimental vaccine but it's so sad because is this is this permanent do
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they mention anything about you know we're gonna do vaccinate because they also say a full capacity which
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is just not true because half of the arena is socially distanced so it's not full capacity it's
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full capacity for half of the stadium see how it doesn't really make any sense and what if you know
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what if you're with a family member who has the vaccine and another one doesn't I mean what if you
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have a food allergy or you have a certain a certain condition where you can't get it but your family
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member got it because they they're a nurse or a doctor I mean this is going to bring up a number
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of problems and all these it's just okay I want to know when the uh when the peanut free section is
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coming exactly right exactly it's very similar to that and if this were if this were even remotely
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as dangerous as they say it is then you wouldn't have seen out in Texas three or four weeks ago their
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first game at full capacity no sections you know this that and the other this is just another
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completely corrupt political theater move you even though Greg Abbott I believe his name's Greg
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or Abbott out in Texas I think he's kind of a swamp creature and I don't really trust him
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but he knows where to draw the line like Cuomo out here or whoever's responsible for this
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it doesn't make any sense right like we saw the number Texas lifted the mask mandate and the left and the
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mainstream media freaked out and said this is I think Gavin Newsom of all people said that's
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completely reckless and of course sorry to cut you off but just to give people some context Joe Biden
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called it Neanderthal thinking and Beto O'Rourke called it a death sentence for Texas but now we've
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got Florida Texas Arizona and Vegas is now opening up with no social distancing you gotta get people back
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in the casinos obviously you mentioned the donuts there's french fries as well we saw the mayor eating
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the in such creepy videos he's eating a thing of french fries like nine in the morning trying to
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convince people to get a vaccine there's even a New York lottery for vaccination is that true now
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absolutely so again there I think there's you know the the grand prize if you get the the number one
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scratcher or whatever it's five million dollars but it goes down I think there's like ten different
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prizes all the way down to like twenty dollars so the coercion is just in in overdrive which is
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hilarious because where I'm at right now you just don't see it I go I mean I go to the grocery store
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they have a little pharmacy over there and there's like a little sign that says oh inquire at the pharmacy
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about the vaccine but you go to New York and it's like you can't walk a city block without being
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bombarded with propaganda but why is that right why are these hard blue states I mean they the CDC
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was the gospel for them six weeks ago and then the CDC said ah you know what you guys can throw away
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the mask if you've been vaccinated wink wink and now people like Lori Lightfoot and Gavin Newsom
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just don't want to obey it nope nope we don't we don't trust the CDC I didn't trust the CDC
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in March of 2020 and I don't trust them any more or any less now I think they're completely worthless
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just political they're just bureaucrats right and Fauci like if you didn't agree with the CDC a year
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ago you're banned from everything if you don't agree with them now you're being extra cautious
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and absolutely and it's the same thing with the lab leak theory that's happening right now like
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you know Trump says ah you know I maybe I might know a little bit about it and then they're like
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get him out of here he said drink bleach and and all sorts of things get him out of here kick him off
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Facebook we can't have this guy but now that uh somebody on CNN says actually this is not looking too
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good you know now I think it was it was either PolitiFact I think who had to re bunk or like they at
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first it was a debunk conspiracy theory but now that it's true it's they've re-bunked it or I don't
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know what I don't know exactly what happened yeah so it's a mess man it's an absolute mess and just
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to bring it full circle I do not think that the vaccinated unvaccinated sections are is going to
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keep up I don't think it's going to work and just like the the excelsior pass that he tried to push
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right it had a bunch of glitches it had a bunch of bugs people it was easy to hack you get people's
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information I mean this stuff is not going to work it's awful all right Eric Butler thanks for
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joining me that's all the time we have in the paywall zone we'll call it I need to come up with
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a name for it the plus paywall zone I need a a baseball to come flying through um where are these
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sirens coming from oh sorry sorry you can't escape it Eric last words to you
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wait what'd you say there last words to you you can't escape the violence it sounds like oh yeah
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I don't know what's going on out there um nothing man just um go ahead and check out this book it is
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an amazing um documentary photo documentary of some of the decline and and unfortunately I think it's only
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gotten worse since since all these photos were taken and naturally um check out the unauthorized
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opinions podcast all right thanks a lot Eric report and opine on Instagram slumlord documenter
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extraordinaire Eric Butler thanks for joining me well that was thanks for having me all right thanks a lot