Ezra interviews Alex Jones
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Summary
Alex Jones, the boss of InfoWars, the most censored pundit in America, sits down for a candid talk with Ezra Levant in his studio in Austin, Texas. Alex Jones has been deplatformed by major tech companies like Apple, YouTube, and Facebook, but he s still around, trying to connect directly with his audience that has surely been cut deeply by his deplatforming.
Transcript
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Well, have I got a podcast for you today, my friends. I went down to Austin, Texas
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to sit down with Alex Jones, the boss of InfoWars, the most banned pundit in America.
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I hope you enjoy the conversation. Let me invite you to become a premium subscriber
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eight bucks a month. And you can get it at premium.rebelnews.com. Okay, here's my conversation
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Tonight, I sit down with America's most censored pundit, a candid talk with a controversial
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man, Alex Jones. It's December 19th, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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Alex Jones is a meme. That is, he's a symbol. He's an idea. People can project their own
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views onto him like a Rorschach test. His gravelly voice. His universal skepticism. His alternative
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takes. Until about a year ago, he was one of the biggest journalists in America. Literally
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millions of followers on YouTube and many more on other social media, too. He was edgy. So
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when Donald Trump appeared on his broadcast in 2016, it startled the Republican establishment
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and indeed the media establishment. Was Trump crazy? Was Jones crazy? Well, yeah, crazy like
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a fox. Both men understood what the fancy people didn't, that an enormous number of severely normal
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people are fed up with the political biases of the mainstream media. Not just their substance, but
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their tone and condescending style. No one trusts the mainstream media anymore. Few even watch them
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anymore. They're part of the establishment, and Trump and Jones were anti-establishment.
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Well, Jones was chosen as the example to be set, the precedent to be set. You can't be that defiant,
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that dissident with impunity. So he was banned by everyone from YouTube to Apple to Facebook,
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all coincidentally on the very same day. But he's still around, trying to connect directly with his
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audience that has surely been cut deeply by his deplatforming. And his finances have been cut,
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too. He's been deplatformed by payment processors. They're trying to un-person him. Why? And who will be
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next? I met with Jones yesterday in his Austin, Texas studio, and spent an hour with him one-on-one.
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Watch it, and let me know what you think. Who's the bigger danger? This man, or Silicon Valley
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It's nice to be in your world headquarters here. It's a pretty big operation.
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Well, thank you, my friend. We've been fighting down here in Texas for 25 years.
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You know, I think a lot of people think they know Alex Jones, but whenever I press them on it,
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all they know is maybe a few selected highlights that are exaggerated or edited in some...
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You know, to make a particular point, a guy's on TV for 20 years, you can put together a medley
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It is. It's things I've done. I've taken it out of context.
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One of the most famous things is, like, four years ago, they were doing pre-trial on a custody
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battle for my children, which I do have full custody of right now.
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And the media says, I lost my kids. It's just more fake news.
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But my ex-wife, you know, God love her, she was going to use a clip of me as the Joker
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from, like, 10 years ago, yelling and screaming and saying wild things.
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And she said, look, he's crazy. He's the Joker.
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My lawyer said, no, he's playing the part of the Joker. He's being an actor.
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Well, of course, when I was being the Joker, I was being an actor.
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This is Alex Jones, what I really say, what I really believe.
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But if I'm doing satire, that I'm dressed up like Geronimo Frost, the gay frog,
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then I'm not really a gay frog. That's called satire, a joke.
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Then the media spun it and said, Alex Jones admits he's a performance artist and it's all an act.
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No. When I was doing the Joker part, that was a joke.
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Just like when I was Cobra Commander or something else.
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So they cherry pick those things and try to create that deception to say that I'm inauthentic
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like Brian Williams or Hillary Clinton or the establishment.
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So that's what they're scared of is the populist authenticity.
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I don't have somebody on high like NBC News or CNN telling me what the agenda is.
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We didn't have a pre-discussion before we're doing your show.
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We didn't have a pre-discussion before you did mine.
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If I'm dressed up again like the Joker or like a lizard man, it's a joke.
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Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, these are communicators, but they're entertainers.
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And no one says, hey, I saw you on Saturday Night Live and you played this role.
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Gavin McInnes, who used to work with The Rebel, the same thing.
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But there's a lot of Gavin McInnes wannabes on the left and no one ever says, well, hang on, you can't say certain things because that's too silly or too funny.
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I think it's only when conservatives strike a chord that gets to people through entertainment that the left says, whoa, whoa, whoa, you stay out of our turf.
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You're right, the left plays dumb and goes, oh, my gosh, you know, you're really serious.
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I did one joke piece with a gore from Star Trek mask on joking about lizards running things.
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And they ran that in the national news saying, look, Alex Jones believes lizards run things.
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At least they're trying to by taking things we say in jest out of context.
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But more and more, I don't really do the comedy stuff anymore.
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Even though it's fun, I enjoy doing it because they always take it out of context.
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I mean, if you're taking on the establishment, if you're taking on the power, you've got to if there's a risk that you could actually become sour.
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It's just that particularly with myself, when I did do the satire bits and the joke bits, they always took them out of context and then misrepresented them.
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But I'm realizing that those memes that went so viral are what brought people to the show.
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They find out what we're really doing in the main.
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So I do intend in 2020, it's just a few days away, to try to bring a lot more of the satire and jokes back in.
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He used to have a million subscribers on Twitter, a million on Facebook.
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They very much limited his YouTube page, and they've thrown him in prison twice since I've known him.
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But even he has not been as deplatformed as you are.
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He's still, you know, his book, one of his books is still sold on Amazon.
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Why are you literally the most deplatformed man in America, more even than Tommy Robinson?
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They've had congressional hearings in the House and Senate saying Alex Jones is a Russian agent with no proof.
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We've got to silence him to, quote, save American democracy.
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Like, you mentioned the gay frogs thing, which is sort of funny, and the joker.
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No, what they're afraid of is they say that I got Trump elected, which really I didn't.
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But we helped energize a populist movement that had a big effect.
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And so they saw that as easy to target, set the president for censorship, build a straw man on Alex Jones, destroy him.
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And then everybody else will basically stand by and let us set the precedent.
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And now in the last two years since that happened, people now really see that it has been systematic.
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We're now even Trump would try to run Facebook ads saying we're looking for strong women.
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And they said, oh, people might be seeing this that aren't women.
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I mean, we're now entering, you know, the real cult of the universities, the real cult of the left being externalized into the general public.
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People are rejecting it just to see how nightmarish it is.
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But for those of us that were deplatformed up front, it's really just to see I told you so.
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And a question of what are we going to do against Islam, radical Orthodox Islam that wants to control speech and destroy what the West has guarded?
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What do we do about the EU that's authoritarian and the new Soviet Union trying to crush free speech?
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What do we do about Hollywood joining together with the dinosaur media, the establishment media to try to silence us?
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And for the first time ever, they have AI algorithms that can block what you say and what you do in live time.
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And so total information awareness is becoming total information control.
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And what strikes me the most about that is that every platform deplatformed you on the same day.
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They even took down your Pinterest, your Instagram, your LinkedIn page, if I'm not mistaken.
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And how did all those purportedly separate companies, you would even call them competitors, how did they all come to the same identical conclusion on the same day?
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Apple, supposedly biggest company in the world or in the top three, depending on which day of the week it is on the stock market.
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He has these Sunday meetings where he gets on the phone with the other tech leaders, five or six of them.
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And they made the decision that Sunday night that he platformed me.
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But I had left it plugged in over on the counter by the bed.
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And it was Alex Jones banned off of Facebook, Alex Jones banned off of YouTube, Alex Jones banned off all these other platforms.
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And it was a concerted cartel effort to silence me.
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And again, people said, oh, my God, it's terrible.
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I knew that they were just setting the presence to do that.
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Tim Cook told Vice News that, oh, you know, it wasn't concerted.
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But they had admitted earlier that they basically concerted it.
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And then about a year later, when I said that it looked like Biden had another stroke, was having trouble speaking about six months ago, they said, well, now you can't say Alex Jones's name unless it's negative or will de-platform you.
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And so that was that AI-level control, like Apple saying you can't send out Taiwanese emojis or Hong Kong flags emojis.
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I mean, that's that level where you can't send out Winnie the Pooh on Chinese servers or you'll get arrested.
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That's the level of whatever the dictators don't like.
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You know, even Tommy Robinson's face, you just have an image of his face on Facebook and it's suspended or taken down.
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What was the express or explicit or official reason?
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I mean, Facebook said this year, and they also said you may not show his photo.
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So you've got, let's say, six or 10 or 12 companies all the same day saying you're out, but they each have slightly different terms of service.
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I would imagine you do slightly different things.
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Did you have like an executive you ever dealt with?
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Well, years ago, we had like 5 billion views on YouTube.
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They had like a vice president of YouTube call up, and we had a liaison, and they sent us little awards and plaques and things.
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And they were trying to, you know, work with us on things.
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Once Hillary lost, they realized, well, people are really listening to this.
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And so the political pressure was put on them to shut us down.
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And then again, six months ago, documents were released to the Business Insider and others where they had come to Facebook and said, Alex Jones is allowing anti-Semitic posts.
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And Facebook went in, because these documents were released, and it was all these internal managers' discussions on this, like, group forum that they had internally.
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And people can go read this online, and they had online, you know, well, private line discussions in those forums about, but we actually went.
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This is an article about something totally different, and it has to be 30% of the comments have to be, you know, racist or whatever.
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And so Facebook said, we're not going to hold you accountable for comments.
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Anybody can go put those on there and get you banned.
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And so then somebody leaked those to the press and said, look, Facebook's not, you know, doing anything about all this stuff.
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They were talking about subpages that were promoting our stuff.
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And they said, I mean, I know it doesn't make sense because it's not supposed to, but it's very 1984.
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It's very Kafkaesque that they said, okay, we're just going to ban all this content on the thing system-wide, even though that wasn't my page.
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They were saying, I was guilty for a page that wasn't mine, that wasn't even racist or, you know, anti-whatever comments in it were.
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So then by extrapolation, it said, I am the highest level dangerous person, along with Louis Farrakhan, Paul Joseph Watson, of all people, and Gavin McGinnis.
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And it said also because I interviewed Gavin, who had founded the Proud Boys, it said by giving him a voice, I had given fascists a voice.
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I mean, in the past, I mean, I grew up in Canada, but we heard about the ACLU.
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And even as a kid, I knew that one of their legal tactics was to defend the Ku Klux Klan, and they would send a lawyer who was Jewish or black to make the point, we don't agree with the Klan, but we know that we have to fight for free speech in the first ditch because it's easier than the last ditch.
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You've got the ACLU, you've got Amnesty International, Penn International, Reporters Without Borders, and you've got conservative public interest law firms too.
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Did any legal group, did any internet group come to your aid?
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And so what you're having is a capitulation by the supposed liberal establishment who had always celebrated that they were the defenders of free speech.
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Which, as you said, I may disagree with you 100%, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.
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I mean, have you had any interactions with civil liberties groups?
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Some of it's funny, some is smart, some I agree with, some I don't.
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None of it comes even close, in my own layman's view, to be legally problematic, let alone that objectionable.
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Why would they not defend you, who's a spicy commentator?
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Because Soros and the left and others have bought off the ACLU on record, and again, you're asking why this happened.
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It happened because we were popular, just like they targeted your system in Canada because it was popular.
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And so they wanted it shut down because we were building a pro-America populist movement that was inclusive.
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I don't care if you're old or young, a man, a woman, black or white.
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I'm a conservative, but I don't hate people that are gay.
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I just don't want anybody targeting children or promoting those lifestyles of children, whether they're heterosexual or homosexual.
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And so the fact that I had a big tent, kind of nationalist, populist, Americana, love affair type show,
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and was just exposing the left's bullying and their trampling,
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and it was resonating with people all across the country and the world of different stripes who all were agreeing,
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hey, we like classical liberalism, which, again, would be called paleoconservatism.
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I mean, none of these terms mean anything now because they've changed what all the terms stand for.
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But we're really dealing with leftist, fascist authoritarianism,
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and they were very threatened by us building a multimedia infrastructure that's on radio and commercial TV
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and that had its own popular websites, which we still have, and that was dominating the trends of the charts.
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And it was already the number one news app against CNN and The New York Times.
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It had over 5 million people that had downloaded it.
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And we had just launched it three or four months, the new app before the banning.
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And that was left up and went from in the top of the news to trending.
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If we kept growing, we would have been number one within a few months, period.
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But now, obviously, that's because they had banned us everywhere.
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And so it created this big, huge surge, so they had to even go in and take that away.
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And then CNN had news articles and talked about Oliver Darcy and the rest of them.
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Well, Alex Jones, he might be using Facebook's messenger app.
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And so they went in and looked at it, and we weren't using that.
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So then they wanted to take away private messaging from me.
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So really, this is the Chinese social score, the communist Chinese social score,
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They're just bringing it in, saying, we're testing it on Laura Loomer and Alex Jones and Gavin McInnes right now.
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You know what, Oliver Darcy, I know he's a media critic,
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but basically you've identified something that I've seen a lot of in the last five years,
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which is activists whose goal is de-platform Alex Jones, de-platform Gavin, de-platform Rebel News.
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But they're really on a mission to censor others.
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Oliver Darcy and Humpty Dumpty guy, Brian Stelter, they would talk about me every week on their shows.
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And someone inside gave them a list of even geolocated hundreds of sponsors.
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And if the Pentagon was running an ad, which I've got a lot of, you know, 16 to 24-year-olds listening,
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that's a smart place to advertise for the Pentagon.
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They went and bitched till those Pentagon ads weren't bought.
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It wasn't even that much money, except they went through every sponsor we had
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and would call them up and say, we're going to do a story on you supporting Alex Jones,
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They got a list from somebody internally to do it.
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So once it was all lined up, they could then call for Alex Jones to be taken down,
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And then when I saw Oliver Darcy in the halls of Congress, he's a man.
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He said, I'm a horrible virus that deserves to be taken off everything.
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It was like two months after the ban last August, so in like October.
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So I'd been legitimately stalked and bullied and really targeted out of the marketplace,
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you know, something that the communists and the Nazis actually did to their political enemies.
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And this guy who I catch in the hallway lined up to go into that meeting, I talked to him, and he won't talk back or respond.
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And then they de-platformed me off Twitter that I dared confront him.
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You know, one of the things that's most frustrating that Tommy Robinson tells me is that since he's been de-platformed,
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people can malign him, defame him, and there's just no way for him to fight back.
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He says at least before people, when they smeared him, he could take to Twitter and Facebook,
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and a million of his friends would know the truth about him.
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Now it's almost like his hand at times behind his back, he's gagged, and anyone can just walk up to him and flick him,
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I'm glad you brought up the subject because it's the blueprint of this oppression that's meant for everybody.
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First they come for this group, then they come for that group.
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And so once they de-platform you, they can then say the most outrageous lies that are 100% not true,
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and you can't respond, and then it's just a feeding frenzy.
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And then they rebrand you, and then no one can even find out the truth
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because the only words out there are those of your critics.
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And that's why when listeners and viewers out there on the Internet find their old clips, repost them,
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people get to really see what's gone and what's happened.
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They've seen through it, just like the impeachment.
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People see through that this isn't due process.
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And they've gone so far that the bullying is really evident.
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But for the millions of Trump supporters and nationalists and patriots that are being blocked offline,
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that are being shut down, that are being silenced,
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the little guy is the one that really is losing their voice.
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And, I mean, stuff like Alex Jones says there's slave colonies on Mars.
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Like, Alex Jones loses lawsuit for the book, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
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And we called them and said, please retract it.
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I think the eeriest thing that happened to you, from my point of view, is that when your
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podcasts, if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, when you were banned from uploading
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new podcasts, all right, but they went back historically and deleted everything you had
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done, your whole portfolio, your whole history.
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Let's go back, change the historical record, clip out the newspaper headline, glue in a
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Like, to me, it's one thing to ban a guy, to punish a guy.
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They would let Charlie Manson on NBC News or ABC News to say, as long as we agree with
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They have to erase who I was so they can build the new straw man, and they steal your identity.
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And I was looking at it through my own eyes, but also trying to imagine, well, what would
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And I'd say the first thing they would think is they would say, huh, you're pretty young.
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I'd say average age here, to my eyes, looks like 25.
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So I think that the stereotype caricature of you is proven wrong just by the people who
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It looks like I'm not making a big deal out of it, but just I think a lot of the slanders
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Who are the people who work here and why do they work here?
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Well, I'm glad you bring that up because we just hire people that want to work hard and
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Um, I really look at people that, that, that, that just want to do a good job and you go
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around liberals, they will have token minorities in people, but literally they are some of the
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most freaked out, uncomfortable around non-white people.
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You go to the New York times, these places, they're almost all, you know, uh, white women
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for whatever reason, it's, it's like an abode of, of white women ruling everything.
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They're trying to get us all to fight with each other over what religion or, you know,
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background we are, but yeah, um, we've got, you know, you name it, um, and there's not
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It's who responds to the job, uh, advertisements and, and, and who, who is, uh, you know, competent.
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She's also not, not, not hard on the eyes be on air.
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And you know, if a, if a woman, uh, we put on an ad and it was a blonde chick with blue
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eyes and whatever, but she, but her attitude is what would really matter.
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You know, I mean, if a woman was a reporter or want to be a reporter and she didn't have
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classic good looks, uh, but she had a great brain, uh, that to me is really cool and even
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You know, if liberals, modern leftist had open minds, wanted a job here, um, I would give
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They're constantly twisting things, constantly trying to make things up.
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One of the things I find hard to do is to find a liberal or a leftist willing to debate
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Uh, in fact, I had everyone wanting to pick a fight with me intellectually speaking.
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I mean, but now I find that the left liberals don't want to debate either.
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They can't, or they prefer to cancel and de-platform.
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Are there liberals of any stature who sit here and go head to head with you or do they
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Oh, I don't, I don't, I don't give your evil any attention.
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I mean, two years ago when this was starting in earnest, I said, I'm being de-platformed.
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They go, Jones claims there's a thing called de-platforming.
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That's what they were doing behind the scenes is what their statements and documents were.
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But the media was even trying to say Jones isn't being de-platformed.
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While it was happening, they were trying to have this gaslit double speak.
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And this doesn't make sense to logical viewers.
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They want to control reality, like saying a man can have a baby, um, or saying a man needs
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to have a cervix exam and the nurse says, sir, you have a large male genitals and she
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gets fired or whatever in England because she didn't do the Canadian story of Jonathan
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Um, what do you think would happen if we put this, we record this for our paywall viewers
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What do you think would happen if we put this up on YouTube?
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I mean, I'm, they, they tried to put out the, sorry, I was going to say, I'm here to
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Uh, you should be allowed to interview who you want.
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I mean, I'm interviewing you because I think you're interesting and I think our people want
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Well, do you think YouTube is going to shut this down?
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Do you think I'm going to get some sort of a strike if I put this on YouTube?
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They tried to put out the illusion of what some of their partners, when they first were
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banning me a few years ago, they'd go, people are getting banned for even having Alex Jones
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It's, it's, it's, it's, it's if InfoWars tries to put up new content.
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And the head of YouTube a few months ago said, everyone's invited back.
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He just got banned from being associated with me.
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Have you tried, have you tried to go in the front door?
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If you tried to say, all right, you know, you're still figuring things out.
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I'm here to, I'm here to come in the front door.
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I mean, maybe, maybe I'm not familiar enough with your body of work.
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Maybe there's something that's utterly unacceptable.
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No, what's going on is, it was, it was, it was getting Trump elected and having Trump
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And they wanted to, again, demonize me, create a straw man.
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Once I fell, they believed everybody else would accept.
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So they just needed someone for two minutes of hate to use that analogy from 1984.
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And they just piled them on and piled them on and piled them on to build me up as this
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And then they, once people didn't defend me, the precedent was set.
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And then she comes out and goes, oh, there's free speech.
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David Knight, very genteel, very smart and engineer.
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He had millions and millions of subscribers on iTunes.
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Oh, and hundreds of millions of views on his YouTube channel.
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When I got banned, the media would then go, wait, his other hosts have still got shows.
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And so to answer your question, no, they've not been taking down people that have interviewed
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me and me and they wanted to try to set that precedent, but they understand that's really
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too far to then say other people aren't allowed to go interview somebody.
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Well, we'll see, because I think we'll put this up on the YouTubes.
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What's the main thing that people aren't allowed to talk about these days?
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I think it's how there's corporate and governmental networks that use pedophilia as a way to blackmail
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and control the fact that that's one of the main systems in the Vatican and other powerful
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organizations that's really allowed cults to take over.
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Epstein is one kind of iceberg in an iceberg field.
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Did you feel vindicated by that whole story, the fact that he was finally arrested and that
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everyone said he's going to be killed, he's going to be killed, he's going to be killed,
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That's the biggest story of 2019 because it's a huge awakening left and right coming together
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and saying Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
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And that's just a symbol of we don't buy the official story and it's okay to ask questions.
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And they're trying to criminalize asking questions and not believe in the official story.
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Even if you're wrong sometimes, you have a right to ask those questions because we've
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been lied to so many times and that's really cherished and protected in Western civilization
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And that's part of due process as well, just in the court of public opinion to be able to
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Prince Andrew was linked to that and had a disastrous alibi interview that was so bad
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the queen basically said, honey, you're not doing any more events.
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That's out of something that five years ago would have been called a conspiracy theory.
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I think that's the great rebuke of the information controllers.
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We're facing AI, a lot of tyranny, but people deep down have been asleep.
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The attempt to intimidate everybody may work on some people, but not most people.
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And I think that the whole corrupt system or the corrupt elements of the system that have
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been trying to use hidden corruption to take over the whole system, I think they're on
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I mean, I think Tommy Robinson, I think what you've done independently is a great role
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I think what Donald Trump's done, and I think many other trailblazers, I think these women
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in Iran in places that are up there really taking their hijabs off and saying they want
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I admire the investigative journalists that go undercover with Planned Parenthood, selling
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baby parts and advertising that they're selling living, beating hearts.
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I mean, I think that's real undercover journalism, Project Veritas, what James O'Keefe is doing
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and his team is just real investigative journalism.
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Par excellence is bringing us back from the dark ages of corporate media and kind of ending
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And just InfoWars and my crew and Owen Schroyer and all the people here, they're my heroes.
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How steadfastly they focus, they work so damn hard.
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We had some people here like 14 hours yesterday.
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And so getting to meet the general public who has that light in their eyes, they could
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be old, they could be young, they could be black, they could be white, they could be
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Christian, they could be Jewish, they could be Buddhist.
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But when they're into freedom, they have that light about them and that energy and they're
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well-spoken and they've got things going on and they're engaged in the universe.
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And you get around leftist and they're hateful and they're mean like, you know, the poor little
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victim girl they're using for global warming propaganda.
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And they're just so obviously on the dark side that you're like, thank God that this has been
00:36:47.160
a rough journey, but I've gotten to meet so many really cool people who are unified in our
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humanity and the fact that we do want a social contract of living in a free society.
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That means the right of religion or not to practice it.
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That means, uh, the, uh, you know, right to, to, to, to, to stand your ground and the right
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to travel and, and, and, and the right to respect others and have yourself respected.
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And the left doesn't respect that now they are the plague.
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And I love the fact that they are so scared of me that they've spent more time trying to
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shut down what we represent than everybody else.
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And so, uh, I wear it as a badge of honor, but also it makes me work even harder knowing
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I mean, quite frankly, I've been doing this 25 years.
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I bust my ass and you can only go full throttle or stop.
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There's no milk, you know, warm, you know, milk toast in the middle.
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Uh, and so I wish that, uh, I didn't have to be so fired up in this, but I've got to do
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Uh, but I, I, I, I wish that things weren't so dire that I would have to be on fire like
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Do you think China will become more like America or do you think America will be more like
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The way you boil things down much better than I do pontificating for five minutes and
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Um, um, Levant is a savant, but seriously, that's the big question of our age.
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Are we going to be the Chinese global dehumanization, Borg evil of the communist Chinese oppressing
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Or are we going to go with the greater ideals of the Renaissance and Americana and the West,
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uh, and, uh, the roots, uh, of Western civilization that are Judeo-Christian systems of, of, of, of,
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of due process right from the old Testament, right through to Magna Carta, right through
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I mean, that is the Renaissance all flowing through, uh, you know, out of Christianity
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and, and, and, and, and, and, and what happened in Europe and just all of that.
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The Chinese communist legalism, uh, which is again, technocracy or making it about the
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And those are the two big title forces of globalism versus nationalism, uh, freedom versus slavery.
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And, and that is the big contest of the future.
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We're at the exact middle of the crossroads right now.
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The live shows, but we hope people spread those links.
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You are the resistance and, and your human intelligence promoting things is amazing.
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Infowars.com forward slash show Infowars lives.
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Is he too rambunctious, too conspiratorial, too over the top?
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Or do we need a universal skeptic like that to challenge everything from the official narrative
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My own instinct is that we need more dissidents, more people who will challenge the official
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Let me close by showing you a clip from a documentary that Alex Jones did many years ago that, to
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me, proves not only his journalistic chops, but that sometimes, well, things are much stranger
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This is when Alex Jones infiltrated a billionaire's getaway in a California camp for grownups called
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Let me leave you with about a minute of that documentary.
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And it was the moment that I thought, you know, Alex Jones might not be right on everything,
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but every once in a while, he breaks the biggest story in the world.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
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Mike Hansen and I were about to attempt the first ever successful infiltration of the Bohemian
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No one has ever actually made it in and out with video evidence.
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After careful planning, we decided the best tactic would be to insert ourselves at a half
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mile from the main entrance into the heavily wooded area, entering the gorge by stealth and
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From there, we posed as Bohemian club members, thus entering the inner sanctums of the New World
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Begone no care, fire shall have its will of thee.
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Begone no care, and all the wind may carry with thy dust.
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Hail Fellowship's eternal flame, once again, Midsommar sets us free.