EZRA LEVANT ｜ 100% of Canadians oppose mass immigration, says focus group
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An enormous focus group, paid for by your tax dollars, shows that everyone consulted wants less immigration in Canada. Every single person the government asked. I have all the details for you. Then we'll check in on what's cooking in Ireland with our friend Fatima Gunning. And I did a little bit of investigative journalism on the street myself about a Jewish school that was targeted for arson and the police are covering it up.
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Hey folks, incredible show today. An enormous focus group paid for by your tax dollars shows
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that everyone consulted wants less immigration in Canada. Every single person the government
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asked. It's incredible. I have all the details for you. Then we'll check in on what's cooking
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in Ireland with our friend Fatima Gunning. But then I did a little bit of investigative
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journalism on the street myself about a Jewish school that was targeted for arson and the
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police are covering it up. I'll have the exclusive results. You don't want to miss this. And you've
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Tonight, 100% of participants in a liberal government focus group tell them immigration
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is too high. It's July 30th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Amazing story in the independent news outlet called Black Locks. Like Rebel News, they don't
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take any money from the government, by the way. Here's a story they ran today, very interesting.
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Headline, Feds Take Wrong Direction. 100% of people questioned in Privy Council focus group
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research say cabinet is headed in the wrong direction on immigration, records show. Researchers
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acknowledged universal opposition to record high immigration levels, quote,
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asked whether they felt the government of Canada was on the right or wrong track when it came to
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managing the immigration system. All believed it was headed in the wrong direction, said a Privy Council
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report. It was strongly believed the rate of immigration needed to be temporarily stabilized,
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added researchers. Now, I obviously didn't sit in on the focus groups in question, but I think I know a
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bit about how they work. A focus group is a kind of deep opinion pool, deep but not wide. What I mean by
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that is an opinion pool asks hundreds or even thousands of people a few questions. The idea is to get a wide
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enough, a large enough sample that statistically the group you select is likely to represent a larger
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population. So when a poll says 43% of people will vote conservative and 23% will vote liberal,
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they obviously haven't spoken to every Canadian. They probably spoke to one or 2,000 people spread out
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across the country and then they extrapolated from that statistically. That's a poll. It's called a
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census when you ask literally every single human a question. It's extremely expensive and hard to get
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cooperation. That's why the government only does it once every five years or so. But a focus group is
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sort of the opposite. It's a smaller group of people who usually show up in person in return for money and
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maybe a meal. And typically, they're not just asked a question one-on-one. The group itself has a group
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conversation. The group conversation is led by a pollster to make sure it doesn't go too far off
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track and there's a note taker. But it's interactive amongst the group. Not too big a group, right?
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Because you want everyone to be involved. No more than, I don't even think there'd be more than 10
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people. Sometimes they're videotaped for later review. Anyways, you want to recreate the kind of
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natural banter that normal people would have, say, at the office water cooler or even at a dinner party,
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for example. Focus groups are often done in a variety of cities to take into account different
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sensibilities. You're going to have some demographic diversity in there too, mixing up the ages, sex,
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race, economic level. If it were just, say, college students, you'd get a very different result than
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coal miners. So there's a bit of a mix, but the idea is to have the people talk amongst themselves.
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These can be very expensive studies to do, but they can yield some really interesting information
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about how people really think about subjects because you're not just forcing people to answer
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a yes-no question that a pollster would write. In a way, the focus group lets the participants write
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their own questions and then answer them. Anyway, you probably know all that. Oh, by the way,
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this focus group costs nearly a million dollars in your tax money. Let me quote,
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findings were based on focus groups nationwide. The research was commissioned under an $814,714
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contract with the Strategic Council, a Toronto pollster. Oh my God, they're getting rich off
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this liberal government. So look at that first point again. Asked whether they felt the government
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of Canada was on the right or wrong track when it came to managing the immigration system,
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all believed it was headed in the wrong direction. All. They all did. Every man, every woman, every
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old person, every young person, every old stock Canadian, every new immigrant, everyone, literally
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everyone said that. So this report says, and frankly, it's not hard to see why. Let me keep reading a
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little bit. These latest statistics surprised even me. And I think I follow this issue closely.
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Cabinet's current immigration levels plan sets quotas at 485,000 people this year, another half a million
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next year, and half a million more in 2026. The quotas do not include an additional 1,040,000 foreign
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students and 766,000 migrant workers led into Canada last year. A million foreign students.
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There are not a million Canadian students in Canada. But in a way, there's not a million foreign students
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either. That's sort of lying to yourself, which you should never do. Most of those foreign students,
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they're not at U of T or UBC or Dalhousie or another real university. Most of them have signed up for fake
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diploma mills, where a fake college is set up, charges enormous tuition. But what they're really
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selling is a student visa to get in the country. So a million people who could not legally immigrate
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here come here for a student visa for fake degrees. Some of them no doubt are real students, but not a
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million of them. That's a million people who paid a fake college 10 or $20,000 in tuition. Just think about
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that. A million times 20,000. That's $20 billion. They're getting rich out of selling out our country.
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20 grand for tuition, maybe. Probably paid the same to an immigration consultant. Probably an
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immigration consultant affiliated with the college. So once they come here, they're not going home.
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They didn't pay the money for a student diploma. And then there's the so-called temporary workers on top
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of that. Why are we bringing in 766,000 people to work at every Tim Hortons and McDonald's drive-thru
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and every 7-Eleven in the country? Why can't young Canadians have those jobs? The obvious answer
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is that Tim Hortons and the rest of them want to pay very, very low wages to these foreign workers
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beneath what they would pay Canadians. These foreign workers drive down wages and take jobs that Canadian
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citizens wouldn't or couldn't take or aren't invited to take at those low wages. But what if companies
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doing business in Canada had to actually employ Canadian citizens? Well, maybe your Tim Hortons
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coffee would be 25 cents a cup higher. But we'd have jobs for young people. And of course, with 766,000
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fewer people in the housing market, young people could probably afford to move out of their parents and get
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their own house if we had 766,000 fewer foreign workers. Of course, every single person in the focus
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group objected to this. Of course, every single one knows that this country is changing in ways we were never
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asked, we were never consulted, we were never even told about. I mean, did you know the numbers were so
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staggeringly large? I guarantee you 99% of Canadians do not know the numbers. Here's our Sarah Stock asking some
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questions of people on the street. Is there a cap you would put on the amount of people who could
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come in per year? No. Well, I would I would think let it happen naturally or let it evolve naturally.
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I've been to countries where people are living in absolute misery. And and it's our fault. It's the
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Western world's fault. It's just if government take them. Maybe. Yeah, but I don't think so. You don't think
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there? I feel like it's too much. Probably not, to be honest with you. I don't think we have the
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infrastructure for it. Just need to be able to absorb people as they come, I suppose, you know?
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I think, you know, we need to have systems in place. And I think, you know, we're Canada and we are a
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country of immigrants. And so I think we just need to keep those doors open. It's like if you invited
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someone to your house for dinner, right? And they come to your house for dinner and they look around,
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they go, hey, you know what? I'm staying and you're paying and I'm forcing you to pay and I'm
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going to live in your house. Let me read you a little bit more about the focus group. I mean,
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you paid for it. You should at least learn what it said. Quote, several expressed the view that the
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rate of immigration had been too high in recent years and that action needed to be taken to
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temporarily reduce the number of people coming to Canada, including refugees and those seeking
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asylum, said the Privy Council report. Continuous qualitative data collection of Canadians views.
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It was felt that the current capacity of infrastructure and vital services could not
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accommodate further increases to the population and that a priority needed to be placed on supporting
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those already living in Canada. People are pretty sick of fake refugees. I think we're all feeling
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like suckers now, like we've been duped, like we've been too hospitable for people who are taking
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advantage. I think this is a very interesting story. I just keep coming back to that data point.
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Every single person felt enough was enough. Every one, 100%.
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Does that include Pierre Polyev? Will the Conservative Party leader start to speak for this massive,
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massive group of Canadians for all Canadians? I sure hope so. Stay with us for more.
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Well, I never thought I would be so interested in Ireland. It's a small country, half a world away,
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barely five million souls. Of course, there are many Irish people in North America. But I never
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thought I would go to Ireland itself. I went to the UK quite a bit to follow the case of Tommy Robinson.
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He's actually half Irish, but he, of course, is affiliated with all things British. He even started
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something called the English Defense League. So really, I had no knowledge about anything going on on the
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Emerald Island until I started paying attention to some of the most extreme immigration policies I've seen
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anywhere in the world. And I know Canada is out of control, but they do something really weird in Ireland
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that I've never seen anywhere else. They just announced, without consultation, that they're going to take over
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a town or a village. And, for example, in the little town, the village of Dundrum, 175 souls, the government
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just announced they have done a deal with a local hotel to shut it down as a hotel and turn it into a refugee camp.
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280 refugees in a village of 175 people just announcing it, fait accompli, ta-da, no consultation, no compromise,
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no planning or zoning rules, just absolutely astonishing. It's almost as if it's designed to irritate and undermine
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local sovereignty, local will. I mean, in the case of Dundrum, that tiny village, more than doubling the
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population, a village with centuries of history, just absolutely incredible to me. So I've been to
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Ireland twice now, and I hope to go back, but it is a long journey. And, of course, my main duties are here
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in Canada, which is what we cover mainly. But I'm lucky enough to have made some friends with one of the
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most important independent media companies in Ireland called Gript, G-R-I-P-T. And you can follow
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them on their website, gript.ie. And I really like their style. I would say they're a little bit more
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calm and a little less antagonistic than Rebel News. And I think that's their secret sauce,
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is they found the sweet spot where they can challenge authority and challenge the establishment,
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but still be polite enough company that they get into the press gallery, that they get into press
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conferences and put questions to cabinet ministers. Let me start. We're about to have a great catch-up
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chat with Fatima Gunning, one of their reporters. But since I've mentioned the village of Dundrum,
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let me show you a three-minute video in exchange between another Gript reporter called Ben Scallon
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and a cabinet minister of the Irish government about this little village of Dundrum. And when
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we come back on the other side, we're going to talk to Fatima about that and all things Irish. Here,
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take a look. Minister, we've heard that there's the village of Dundrum in County Tipperary, where
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the population of the town is about 165 people. And there are plans to move more asylum seekers than
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the local population. Do you understand why some locals would say that's just an absurd situation
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and that this situation is out of control? Well, first of all, I haven't heard about that
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particular instance, but I do know that Minister of Government's department does communicate and
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consult with local communities. And I'm sure that work is ongoing as we speak at the minute.
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But in general, would you say that it's sustainable that we do have villages around the country,
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not just Dundrum, but other places where the government is talking about or has moved more
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asylum seekers into the local area than there are locals, such as in Lisdu and Varna and other places
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like that? Well, can I just say that in the majority of cases where people come into an area?
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CCTV is in operation at this station. Well, CCTV defines a social show.
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In many cases where people have moved into an area, the locals are there and they welcome them
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and they integrate in. And I've seen that on many occasions myself.
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Sure, but I'm sorry, Minister, but that's not really the question. I mean, of course that's true.
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That's a separate issue to what I'm asking about, which is, again, the volume of asylum seekers that
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are being moved specifically into some rural areas. Obviously, as the Minister for Rural Development,
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if there's a large influx of people to a very small town, is that sustainable long term is what
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I'm asking you. Do you understand why some people would have concerns about that?
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Yeah, well, I do understand the people of concerns, but I can give you one very good example. And
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Lisdu and Varna is a very good example. I've been down there a number of times myself. There was a lot
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of people moved into that area and they have integrated exceptionally well. They're working
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in the local community. They're working in the local community centre. I've been to visit them myself.
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And that's a town where it has made a difference. In fact, there were plans to move some Ukrainians
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out of a particular area into another area. And I actually got calls from local people saying,
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please don't move them. These people are making a contribution. So I think there's concerns
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initially, and I understand why people have concerns. But when they get to know the people
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and they can see that they're making a contribution and they want to make a contribution in this country,
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I think that's what we need to do. And they can see the difference on the ground. So it's important
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that we don't have preconceived ideas about who's coming into our country. A lot of these people
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are very genuine, honest people. They want to be here. They want to contribute. They want to work.
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Well, that's Gript's Ben Scallon asking Heather Humphries about the little town of Dundrum
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that's about to have its population more than doubled. She says, basically, look,
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the Irish way is to be hospitable and welcoming. And she says that it has worked in other cases.
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She refers to the Ukrainians. Ireland took an incredible 100,000 Ukrainians at the beginning
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of the war. And just to put that in scale, that would be like 1 million Ukrainians coming to Canada.
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Just an enormous amount. But there were some cultural and economic compatibilities.
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Some of them spoke English. They're Christian. They have a certain economic and skills background.
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And it is true. I found many Irish people were positive about Ukrainians. But what's being planned
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for Dundrum and Kulak and other places is not for these families brought over from Ukraine who could
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genuinely be called refugees, but rather asylum seekers, almost all the military-aged men from
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places like Somalia or Nigeria or places where there's really very little cultural compatibility,
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no economic compatibility, very little English skills. And I think that that minister was conflating
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the two. In the end, I don't think she answered the question at all. How do you feel about putting
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280 migrants in a town of 175? Very interesting days. But let us now talk to our friend Fatima Gunning,
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a colleague of Ben Scallons at GRIP. Fatima, great to see you again. I had the pleasure of bumping into
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you when I was in Ireland last time. There's so much going on. Why don't you sort of do a scan of the
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country for us? I just wanted to show that video from Ben because it was about the very village that I
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myself had visited. Tell me what's cooking in terms of immigration, crime, other issues that are causing
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Well, I suppose even though, as I said before, the vast majority of Irish people surveyed said that they
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think that the government has taken in far too many refugees and asylum seekers. The government is going
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ahead and essentially leaving the situation as it is. I mean, you'll see Minister for Justice Helen McEntee do
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things like she'll add countries to this safe country list, which is supposed to mean that people
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coming there seeking asylum have their applications expedited because, you know, if you're coming from
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somewhere like South Africa where there's no war, you're probably less likely to actually be a victim
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of some kind of persecution. So she'll do things like that. And, you know, skeptics might say that that
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is in some way to placate the public, but then you'll see figures coming out. Like, for example,
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compared to this time last year, there's been a 96% increase in the number of asylum seekers coming
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to Ireland. So despite these kind of, you know, token moves to make it more difficult or to speed up
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processing times, implement deportations, the numbers we see coming are getting bigger and they're getting
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substantially bigger. So you kind of have to ask yourself if what the government is doing is actually
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making any difference. Um, and I suppose just to, to the point, uh, social protection minister,
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Heather Humphrey saying she's insisting there that a minister for, um, integration, Roderick O'Gorman,
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that he does communicate with, uh, locals when setting up these asylum seeker accommodation
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facilities. I, I have spoken, Ben has spoken, anyone agree with, has spoken to a lot of people in,
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in Wicklow, in Tipperary, where that is in just county after county, after county who say that
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they were not in fact consulted. Um, usually in a lot of cases, what happens is, and I think this
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is also the case in Kulak, um, also in the nearby area of Santry is that contracts will go out for
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catering, let's say, or for some kind of works that they need to improve the facility. And through
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those contracts, words will slip out, word will slip out that, oh, there's some movement going
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on here. Why are they suddenly renovating this derelict building? And that's how people find out
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that there's an asylum seeker proposed. It's not because the government are being transparent.
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It's the most astonishing thing I've ever seen. If you want to build a skyscraper,
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if you want to build a mall, if you want to build a parking lot, um, in every country in the Western
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world, there's some municipal planning. What will it do for traffic? What will it do for safety? What
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will it do for congestion? Um, do we have enough, uh, resources? If we're moving a bunch of people
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here, do we have enough doctors? Like there's so much planning and, and this whole field of municipal
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law and zoning has grown around how you handle building new things. And the idea that you would
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just plunk 280 people in a village of 175 with no planning, no notice. When, when I was down in
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Dundrum, the owner of the hotel that had done the deal with the government sped by in his car.
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He's never spoken to the public at all. He's never done a media interview at all.
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The contract he has is a secret. It's never been revealed. He has attended no town hall meetings.
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Normally when there's a developer of a shopping center or a project, they go to a town hall and
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basically get pummeled with questions for hours and they make a bunch of promises to get back to
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the people. None of that has happened here. And it's all a secret and it's being issued from the
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very top down. I have never seen anything like it in any country in the world where I've been
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following mass immigration. Ireland is unique in how rough they are with their own people.
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I don't understand that, Fatima, because in my mind, Irish are rebellious. They're independent
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spirited. There's that nickname, the fighting Irish. Like the Irish are a stiff necked people.
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And here you have governments basically say, be submissive. Your job is to agree. These
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they're not consultations. They're one way edicts. I've just never seen anything like that
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Right. And then the government is saying continuously that people don't have a right to
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veto who comes into their neighborhood. So they're saying that, you know, we have a Sinn Féin leader,
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Mary Lou McDonald, who up until five minutes ago was basically in lockstep with the government.
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She's the leader of the opposition party, although you probably need to do a bit of reading to figure
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that out. If you look at their policies, she has said that there needs to be more consultation,
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but that people don't have a veto. So it's basically like, okay, we'll tell you what we're
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going to do and you don't have a right to say no. So I don't know. We're going to tell you what
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we're going to do and you're just going to accept it. So I don't really understand why that's a
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consultation. You know, if you look at people trying to build housing estates or whatever,
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like you do have the right to object. And then if the council finds in your favor, if the council
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accepts your concerns about that planning application, that will be turned down and it
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can be turned down multiple times, even if the proposed developer appeals it. So this is obviously
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not the case with these asylum seekers. So I don't really understand how it is a consultation at all.
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Yeah. It's just incredible to me. And I think, I mean, it's tough to talk about these things
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without being called politically incorrect. But when I was in Dundrum, we saw some Ukrainians at
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that hotel now. But when I spoke to the protesters at the front gate, they actually said that the
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Ukrainians are assimilating well, they're active in the schools and in the community. I actually didn't
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hear any objection to them. I think they were scared of the idea of hundreds of single military
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aged men from countries of violence who are clearly bogus. Like when I saw you at a small town called
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Newtown Mount Kennedy, where I encountered some of the men and they had all walked over from Northern
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Ireland into Ireland proper. So they weren't flying in from Somalia or Gaza or wherever they said they
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came from. They came through a series of countries, the last one of which was the UK and then into
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Ireland. So of course, everyone knows they're bogus refugees. You're not in danger if you're coming from
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the UK. You're not in danger if you pass through France. Whereas I think everyone knows in their bones
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something bad is going on in Ukraine. And we can say, well, the young able-bodied men perhaps should
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be in Ukraine fighting. But I think people understand in their gut, okay, if you're a family
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from Ukraine, it's because there's a war. But if you're a single guy from Somalia, for example,
00:25:32.380
you know, Somalia is not a great place, but you did not come from Somalia to Dublin. You went through a
00:25:38.940
lot of safe places first. So everyone knows instinctively it's BS. What do you think of that?
00:25:44.380
Well, yeah, I mean, there's no direct flights between Dublin and Somalia. I don't think
00:25:48.780
Ryanair or Aer Lingus were planning to go there anytime soon. But yeah, like I've spoken to asylum
00:25:54.280
seekers outside, particularly this place called Crooksling, which is in a rural part of, it's kind
00:25:59.220
of on the borders of South County Dublin, a little bit of County Wicklow, very sparsely populated,
00:26:04.600
not much going on there, but a very beautiful area. And yeah, some of those guys, like African-looking
00:26:10.260
guys have British accents. So I'm like, where did you get your British accent? You must have been
00:26:14.300
in the UK for a couple of years before you decided to come to Ireland and claim asylum
00:26:19.180
from, you know, the war-torn region of the United Kingdom, as it were. And funnily enough,
00:26:25.340
I was actually up there yesterday visiting a family of four, an Irish man, his wife, I think
00:26:32.100
that lady is from Eastern Europe and their two kids who are being evicted. They have been evicted
00:26:37.960
actually from a log cabin they put on land that is owned by the family because South Dublin County
00:26:44.300
Council say that they, you know, they didn't apply for planning permission before they erected that
00:26:49.800
structure. Oh my God. So, so Irish nationals, they're being kicked out because they didn't go
00:26:55.880
through the planning rules. But these pop-up refugee camps aren't even subject to the planning rules.
00:27:01.160
That's astonishing. Right. And that particular family's home is a five minute drive from the
00:27:07.240
former nursing home, Crooksling, where hundreds of single male asylum seekers are being occupied now.
00:27:14.500
You know, and obviously planning laws have been, certain aspects of planning laws have been
00:27:18.640
abandoned in order to let that happen. So the government seems very, very, you know, happy enough
00:27:24.160
to evict Irish families into homelessness. Yet they say that housing asylum applicants, many of whom
00:27:32.160
are economic migrants who are taking advantage of the asylum system. We know that. Apparently that's,
00:27:38.360
that's an emergency, but housing homeless Irish families is not. You know, what I don't get is the Irish
00:27:45.580
guilt about this, because I know in, in the United States, there's the overhang of slavery
00:27:51.820
and the Jim Crow laws. And, and there is an expiation of that guilt through, you know,
00:28:00.260
certain racial set-asides or quotas or affirmative action, whatever. I mean, Abraham Lincoln himself
00:28:06.200
talked about how sort of cosmic justice required that any money made at the hand of a slave should be,
00:28:16.720
you know, that it was burnt up by the civil war. I mean, if you read his second inaugural address,
00:28:21.540
you can see that the moral guilt of slavery weighed heavily on Abraham Lincoln's mind.
00:28:27.140
Other countries, the United Kingdom had colonies around the world. And I would argue that those
00:28:32.020
colonies benefited immensely from the rule of law and peace and the English language and free market
00:28:38.420
economics. We can have that debate, but none of those things apply to Ireland. Ireland enslaved no
00:28:44.200
one. Ireland colonized no one. Ireland displaced no one. The Irish are the original people there.
00:28:49.820
If they were in Canada, they would be called First Nations. If they were in Australia, they would be
00:28:54.880
called Aborigines or, or Indigenous people. I don't understand why Indigenous people on the land in
00:29:00.920
Ireland are being kicked off their land for zoning reasons. While, why obvious fortune seekers who are,
00:29:09.780
like, I just don't think anyone in Ireland actually thinks that these IPAs, as they're called,
00:29:15.560
these asylum seekers, are legit. I just don't, I mean, everyone knows they just walked over from
00:29:20.600
Northern Ireland. I just don't get why Ireland is being taken as suckers here. That's what I don't
00:29:26.640
get is where this white guilt comes from in a country that is nothing to be guilty for. I am so
00:29:31.980
puzzled by that, Fatima. Well, I think that, you know, over the past couple of years, these kind of buzzwords
00:29:38.080
like racist and far right have been used to demonize anyone who even asks about this, even like mixed race
00:29:43.440
people like myself or people who are themselves immigrants from Eastern Europe, could be South America,
00:29:49.900
Africa, wherever they're from, people who have come here to work hard and try and like make a better life for
00:29:54.740
themselves and their families. Those kind of people have been dismissed and tired as racists. There are also
00:30:01.360
people like, I'll give you an example of a lady, her name is Dr. Ebon Joseph. She has been appointed as a racism
00:30:08.660
czar. So she's been given a bunch of taxpayers money to isolate instances where Irish people are
00:30:14.660
racist and essentially, you know, train Irish people not to be racist like you would train a dog not to
00:30:20.220
piss in your house. Excuse my language. So you have situations like that. And then also the government
00:30:26.080
does this thing and you'll have seen Minister Heather Humphreys do it in the clip you played a couple of
00:30:30.900
minutes ago, but they continually conflate, um, these refugees and asylum seekers, uh, people who
00:30:37.780
are economic migrants taking advantage of the asylum system. They continuously conflate those people
00:30:43.540
with people who have come here seeking work. So people who have actually come and are actually
00:30:48.580
paying their taxes, you know, integrating, doing their best to speak English or whatever. They're,
00:30:54.460
they're continually conflating those people saying like, Oh yeah, but if you capped the number of
00:30:59.500
migrants coming in, suddenly the hospitals wouldn't work anymore because there's so many Indian nurses.
00:31:03.720
It's like, well, we're not talking about Indian nurses when we talk about asylum seekers. That's
00:31:08.120
a completely different demographic. Yeah. I mean, you, uh, uh, we met up at Newtown Mount Kennedy,
00:31:13.580
which is, um, basically an urban refugee camp. They built a 10 foot steel wall around it,
00:31:18.540
not to protect the migrants, but to stop, uh, the Irish from looking in to see what's going on.
00:31:24.020
My understanding is that as a 100% male, uh, camp that there are no women in there. Is that your
00:31:30.700
understanding as well? Yeah, there's no women in there. They're like, a lot of those camps are
00:31:35.500
100% male, single male. Um, and, uh, you know, in Dundroma, as you may have mentioned the, uh,
00:31:42.800
originally it was occupied by Ukrainians and like, you know, in fairness to the Ukrainians,
00:31:46.920
like a lot of them are women and children. I mean, there have been issues raised regarding the
00:31:51.840
amount of Ukrainians taken in. It's at least 107,000. And also I think within the first year
00:31:57.200
of their accommodation, something like 750 million euros was paid for their social welfare.
00:32:02.380
Like they were getting pretty much the same job seekers allowances an Irish person would get. So
00:32:07.040
that was causing some controversy that you're getting like, you know, 120, 130 euros a week.
00:32:13.320
And you also have your accommodation paid for in a lot of cases. So a lot of people were kind of
00:32:18.240
questioning whether that was fair because, you know, Ukraine is a pretty large country.
00:32:21.720
So it's like, well, why do they need to come from the East Ukraine all the way to Ireland
00:32:25.400
when they possibly could be settled safely in another part of Ukraine? Um, so yeah,
00:32:30.280
there are, there are people who are also kind of questioning the, uh, the amount of Ukrainians
00:32:35.000
coming in and also like, you know, whether the ones here are actually from the areas of Ukraine
00:32:39.320
that are affected by the war, but like, um, be that as it may. Yeah. Like some of the centers
00:32:45.560
are initially sold as being for Ukrainians, uh, women and children, maybe families,
00:32:50.440
which is, it's a softer sell. It's a much softer sell to say that these people are families,
00:32:55.960
um, that the kids need to go to school X, Y, and Z than to say, well, we're going to move in
00:33:01.160
like 65 single men. None of them are vetted. We don't know. So a lot of them have come in with no
00:33:05.800
passports. We don't actually know where they are from. We don't know what they have done.
00:33:09.160
And if, you know, if they have criminal records, we just don't know that. So I think in, in some
00:33:13.480
ways the, the Ukrainian card has been played to kind of pull the wall over the people's eyes a
00:33:17.720
little bit. I think so. And, and anyone who shreds their documents upon coming across the
00:33:25.160
border, that's such a sign of bad faith. And in my mind, in my gut, that should be an automatic
00:33:30.200
deportation right there. Cause obviously they're coming to trick in, in law. If you lose a document
00:33:37.400
that you ought to have had, the courts often make an adverse inference. That is, if you lost,
00:33:44.760
if you say though, the dog ate my homework, your honor, quite often the court will say, well,
00:33:49.800
we're not going to give you the benefit of the doubt of this because this is on you.
00:33:53.080
We're going to assume the worst. That's called an adverse inference in law. And I think any migrant
00:33:59.320
who quote loses their passport that they needed to get to fly into Dublin or, or to cross over from
00:34:07.240
Northern Ireland, I think we can make an adverse inference that they're tricksters, that, that
00:34:12.120
their document does not show what they purported to show. I just, it breaks my heart. And I met so
00:34:18.680
many wonderful people. I hope to go back to Ireland. It's not a quick journey from Canada. And of course,
00:34:24.040
we have our work here, but it's so great to catch up with you. I follow Gripped very closely. I follow
00:34:30.360
you on Twitter. I subscribe. And of course, most of your content is free on the internet. Keep it up,
00:34:35.880
Fatima. I hope you'll stay in touch with about migration. And there's so many other things that you
00:34:40.440
cover. Um, I'm just, and, and by the way, Gripped is beloved on the streets of Ireland. I know that
00:34:47.880
because when I, when I go to these places, people are exasperated with your state broadcaster, which is
00:34:53.960
called RTE, but they always mentioned Gripped as the one sunny spot. So congratulations to you and
00:35:00.440
your team. Thank you. Um, just there's a lot of, uh, videos. If anyone wants to see a particularly
00:35:06.840
the personal story about the family being evicted from the cabin, that's going up. Uh, there's a lot
00:35:11.880
of those kinds of things on, uh, Grips YouTube. If anyone wants more information on those personal
00:35:17.080
stories and they can go and find them there. Excellent. And I did see that story and it's just shocking.
00:35:22.200
Fatima Gunning, great to see you again. Thanks for your time.
00:35:25.880
All right. There you have it. Be sure to check out Gripped, G-R-I-P-T dot I-E. Stay with us. More ahead.
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That I recorded today, I woke up in the morning and another day, another Jewish institution being
00:35:47.800
attacked, uh, a Jewish day school, uh, not far away from us here, torched and had windows smashed.
00:35:53.560
And then police lied about it here. Take a look at the video. I'll see you tomorrow, everybody.
00:35:58.120
Toronto police claim that the man who set fire to the Jewish school was just a homeless man
00:36:03.560
sleeping in a shed out back. And it wasn't an anti-Semitic hate crime, but a neighbor gave us
00:36:08.680
surveillance footage showing something very different. It shows a man arriving at the school at 3 0 5 a.m.
00:36:15.480
and carefully checking to see if he was being followed. Then he walks briskly to the school,
00:36:21.080
carrying bags of supplies. Minutes later, the school is on fire. According to the neighbor,
00:36:27.720
that was the first time the man had been there. He had never slept in the shed, not on that night or
00:36:33.400
any other. Ezra Levant here. I am back at the Leo Beck day school, several hours after I broke the news
00:36:43.800
that the school had its windows smashed and was torched in an obvious anti-Semitic hate crime
00:36:50.280
incident. One day after Jewish school buses several miles away for another Jewish school were torched.
00:36:58.040
The commonality between these two incidents is that the media has tried to bury them and police
00:37:04.040
have said next to nothing. Yesterday, both CTV and City News said that the school bus caught fire
00:37:12.200
at 5 a.m. As you know, parked school buses do. Of course, that's not true. I went there and I
00:37:18.040
bumped into the owner of the school bus who said it was obviously arson. A bizarre report by CTV said
00:37:23.880
that the bus had been parked there for 15 years. The owner of the school bus told us it was used
00:37:28.840
every school day. Just a weird cover up. And then this morning I come to this school and let me just
00:37:34.920
show you a little bit of what I filmed when I was first on the scene really. Arson. The window smashed.
00:37:41.400
You can see the charred remains behind me. That's plate glass window. Absolutely shattered. There's a bit
00:37:49.800
of a cleanup crew here. There's a private security guard down there, but no one else is here. Police
00:37:57.160
aren't here. They're busy doing something more important. This is a prominent and large Jewish
00:38:04.520
day school for young kids. Had it been during the school year, God forbid, kids would have been
00:38:10.920
hurt by the attack and they would certainly be startled and stunned to come to school.
00:38:16.680
I wasn't the first human on the scene. There was some cleanup crews and the CEO of the school was
00:38:23.640
sitting by dejectedly. And I walked right up to the smashed window and I did my report and I left
00:38:30.440
and the video went viral. But then I saw the most bizarre tweet by the Toronto police. And let me read
00:38:36.600
it to you now. We understand there is concern about a fire that occurred last night at Leo Beck Day School.
00:38:42.200
At 3 46 AM police responded to a call reporting a fire in an exterior storage shed being used by an
00:38:51.160
under housed individual for shelter. Toronto Fire Services extinguished the fire. The cause of the fire
00:38:56.840
is undetermined with no suspicious circumstances. It just caught fire guys, you know, spontaneous
00:39:03.720
conflagrations. It just happens all the time. The hate crime unit has been consulted and
00:39:10.840
there is no evidence that this incident was motivated by hate. The investigation is ongoing.
00:39:16.760
Well, hang on, hang on. So the investigation is ongoing or there's no evidence. You can't really
00:39:21.720
say both. So you say there was no hate crime, but then you say the hate crimes was investigating.
00:39:27.000
Then you say they found no evidence, but you say they're still investigating. What a bizarre cover
00:39:32.760
up. And even weirder was how quickly the liberal MP who has on so many occasions let down her own
00:39:40.520
community by selling them out to, well, basically Justin Trudeau's agenda. Look at this bizarre
00:39:46.440
tweet by Yaara Sachs. A devastating news cycle of arson and vandalism. Incidents at Jewish schools,
00:39:53.000
property and neighborhoods, including now at Leo Beck day school, reminds us that the community is not
00:39:57.720
and does not feel safe in the face of rising antisemitism. Thank you, Toronto police for your
00:40:02.040
continued work. Hang on. They, which is it? Is it antisemitism or not? Was it a hate crime or arson
00:40:09.400
or not? You guys have to get your alibi straight. You guys should confer with each other before lying to
00:40:16.120
the public. So I saw this bizarre cover up. I saw police announcing it's not antisemitism
00:40:22.680
before their investigation is finished. And I came back because I know a few things,
00:40:27.480
because I know this school fairly well. I know, for example, that it has fairly high security.
00:40:32.840
And I know it's absolutely absurd to say that a homeless person, they won't even use that word,
00:40:39.960
accidentally set the place on fire, which included smashing very high strength plexiglass windows.
00:40:49.320
It is very hard to break a glass window like that. That's tempered glass and to smash three of them
00:40:56.840
in a row, accidentally a homeless person. It, it is obviously a fake example, a fake excuse. Now,
00:41:06.040
here's the amazing thing. I came back here right away when I saw the police cover up and a man walked
00:41:11.320
forward and say, Hey, I saw your report this morning. I said, really? He said, yes. He said to me,
00:41:17.320
I think it might've been a homeless person. I said, well, why, why would that be the case?
00:41:22.040
Why would you say that? He said, because I saw him on my house closed circuit TV, my house security
00:41:28.840
cam. Now this neighbor didn't want to be on camera or use his name, but he allowed me to
00:41:33.960
chat with him recording his voice. Here's a little bit of how that conversation went. So I just looked at
00:41:39.720
your home, uh, security camera footage and it shows a guy. Had you seen him before? Like,
00:41:46.040
so now we know a guy did it, but was he homeless or was he an anti-Semitic hate criminal? Have you
00:41:52.120
seen him before? I know that's the first time 24 hours ago. I just noticed. So, so you had never
00:41:58.120
seen that guy here in weeks or months. I have not know. Okay. So that, so now I'm a little skeptical
00:42:05.960
that he was homeless if he was just there one night only. Yeah. I mean, I don't know the hours
00:42:12.600
he operates are pretty late and I'm not awake to see him. So I can't comment on that. Now it does show
00:42:17.560
a man moving things into position, but is it an anti-Semitic attack or is a homeless person? This may be
00:42:23.720
the storage shed that they're referring to. In fact, looking at this, this looks like it could have
00:42:28.760
been a plastic prefab storage shed, the kind of thing that you might find at a Costco or a Walmart.
00:42:39.240
And this wooden pallet may have been the floor of the storage shed. So there may in fact have been
00:42:45.400
a storage shed here. It certainly wouldn't have been that door. I know from experience that door
00:42:51.400
is well secured and it goes downstairs into the school. So this may be the remains of the storage
00:42:58.280
shed. But what does a fire in a storage shed, which is a plausible explanation, have to do with
00:43:06.120
then standing up and smashing a series of plate glass windows? And how can the police be so quick
00:43:13.880
to rule things out to say it was not a hate incident, but all at the same time say they're
00:43:19.720
still investigating. Well, which is it? You've ruled it out, but you're not done your investigation.
00:43:24.280
And if it was an underhoused man who obviously committed arson and other offenses to property,
00:43:30.600
why has he not been arrested? As far as we know, why has he not been charged? As far as we know,
00:43:35.720
what was his name? Did he really just come this one day? Because remember, we spoke to the neighbor
00:43:41.320
who said he had never seen this person before and he was bringing bags of stuff. So we've seen the
00:43:47.080
closed circuit TV from the neighbor's place. But look, one, two, three, at least three surveillance
00:43:53.880
cameras at the school itself would have been on this shed if indeed this was a shed. I think it
00:44:01.720
behooves the Toronto police and this school to release that footage. Was this just a random act by a
00:44:08.680
hobo or was this an anti-Semitic attack? We've seen the neighbor's footage. I want to see what's in
00:44:15.080
those cameras. And if the Toronto police is ruling out a hate incident before they've even finished
00:44:21.000
their investigation, it shows the whole thing is a cover up. I don't doubt that this could have been
00:44:25.960
a shed. And I don't doubt it was set on fire. And I don't doubt it was set on fire by a man last
00:44:32.040
night caught on tape by the neighbor. The question is, was he indeed a random homeless person lighting it
00:44:38.200
on fire? Or was he an anti-Semitic hate criminal? Because he didn't just light it on fire. He smashed all
00:44:44.280
those windows. Where is he? Did police arrest him? What's his name? Has he been charged with crimes
00:44:50.040
before? Why do we not know that information? I don't trust the Toronto police. Do you?
00:44:55.400
I think that the police are covering up. I think Yaara Sachs, who was instant to reply to the police,
00:45:01.400
wants this to go away. Canada is in the middle of an anti-Semitic crime wave. They're hitting Jewish
00:45:06.840
schools every week, Jewish synagogues every week, so often that they no longer make news. But it's not
00:45:13.720
because they're not newsworthy. It's because the mainstream media, the police, and the politicians
00:45:19.560
would rather have this inconvenient story go away. The Toronto police are a disgrace for declaring this
00:45:27.160
a non-incident while it's still being investigated. And Yaara Sachs is a double disgrace after her
00:45:33.640
betrayal of the Jewish community to approve of the Toronto police whitewashing this incident.
00:45:39.800
This was an attack on a Jewish school. I do not believe that there was no anti-Semitic hate involved.
00:45:47.240
I do not believe that a random homeless person attacked and smashed a high security Jewish
00:45:54.120
school. I just don't believe it. From Rebel News, I'm Ezra LeVant.