Rebel News Podcast - November 04, 2023


EZRA LEVANT: 100,000 Nazis speaking Arabic in ‘New’ London


Episode Stats

Length

29 minutes

Words per Minute

169.76857

Word Count

5,020

Sentence Count

339

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

The England of the past, the England that informs our present, is in decline. I think that the British Empire, while, of course, it has been decolonized and in decline in some ways for a century, what I saw this weekend showed that England itself is being colonized. And I think what scares me about this colonization is not that these people are in the main of a different religion or a different race, but that they were people who came here and had a cultural value that made them celebrate the barbarity of Hamas.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You're listening to a release on the test.
00:00:14.300 You're fighting for freedom!
00:00:17.200 Shame on you, you sensorious bug!
00:00:20.420 Mr. Levant here, I'm standing in London, England, behind me, Westminster Abbey, a church where kings and queens have been crowned, royal weddings and funerals.
00:00:40.380 It's the heart of England, this ancient place, with a history going back centuries, millennia even.
00:00:47.180 It's a Christian history, it's a history of the West, it's the history of North America, which emanated from the British Empire.
00:00:54.320 It's the history of our language, it's the history of Winston Churchill, our notions of freedom of speech and the rule of law, the Magna Carta dating back to 1215.
00:01:03.520 But what I've learned over the last few days is that the England of the past, the England that informs our present, I think it's in decline.
00:01:12.960 There's this social media meme going on, it's really funny, girls or women ask each other, ask your boyfriend how often he thinks of the Roman Empire.
00:01:23.520 How many times a week does he think of the Roman Empire?
00:01:25.840 Or just how many times in general do you think about the Roman Empire?
00:01:30.800 Probably not a lot, why?
00:01:33.520 Not a lot? When was the last time you thought about it?
00:01:37.040 Maybe a week or two ago?
00:01:38.140 And they're stunned when their boyfriends say things like every week or every day.
00:01:45.520 And it's sort of funny, and I'm not sure how true it is, but when you think about it, the Roman Empire and the British Empire,
00:01:51.220 well, we think about them all the time, even if we don't know we do, because everything we do and say and think
00:01:57.100 and how we organize ourselves and interact with each other came from the British Empire.
00:02:02.860 And that in some ways came from the Roman Empire before it, Londinium is where I'm standing.
00:02:08.440 But empires rise and fall.
00:02:10.420 And I think that the British Empire, while, of course, it has been decolonized and has been in decline in some ways for a century,
00:02:18.240 what I saw this weekend showed that England itself is being colonized.
00:02:23.660 And I'm not using colonized as a byword for just immigration.
00:02:28.940 There have always been immigrants to England.
00:02:30.860 If you think about the empire itself, it was a multicultural, multiracial, global enterprise.
00:02:37.620 One of my favorite poets, Rudyard Kipling, was born in India.
00:02:40.940 He wrote The Jungle Book.
00:02:42.400 If you can imagine what the port of London was like and other ports 400 years ago when Shakespeare was writing,
00:02:50.620 I mean, they had the adventures to America and to India.
00:02:53.400 I'm not talking about immigration.
00:02:54.800 I'm talking about colonization because what I saw on the streets of London yesterday were 100,000 people marching under a foreign flag.
00:03:06.420 I spent hours on the street and then I looked at social media for hours later.
00:03:12.200 The only British flag, the only Union Jack I saw all day were held by some Nigerian Christian tourists who were in a group.
00:03:20.180 Other than that, I didn't see a single British flag.
00:03:23.400 I saw hundreds of Palestinian flags.
00:03:26.160 I saw some darker flags, which I don't quite know.
00:03:29.360 They looked like they may be an Islamic State flag or something.
00:03:32.920 I don't know definitively.
00:03:34.900 But even without the flags, what I saw is a loyalty to a religion and a political movement that was completely un-British,
00:03:46.640 that had nothing to do with the rule of law or King Charles, that was calling for, as Hamas does, Sharia law, that preaches violence.
00:03:57.180 That's what the Hamas charter does.
00:03:58.820 It made me profoundly sad that although the British Empire has, I suppose, been in decline for a century, Britain itself was still Britain.
00:04:08.320 And I think what scares me about this colonization is not that these people are in the main of a different religion or a different race.
00:04:18.380 I should say about a quarter of the marchers were hardcore left-wing indigenous Brits, white post-Christian Brits.
00:04:26.540 But three-quarters of them were people who came here and had a cultural value that made them celebrate the barbarity of the Hamas attacks.
00:04:37.420 And I asked a number of protesters if they would just simply describe Hamas as a terrorist group or not.
00:04:43.360 I spoke to one British fellow.
00:04:45.440 I'm not sure if he did.
00:04:46.340 But the Muslim folks I spoke to just refused to answer that question.
00:04:49.860 They are trying to take the words of the Holocaust and flip them around on the Jews.
00:04:54.220 The Jews are committing a Holocaust.
00:04:56.400 The Jews are the new Nazis.
00:04:58.080 The Jews are committing a genocide.
00:05:00.000 Undermining the truth about the history of the Jews and weaponizing the anti-Semitism in London.
00:05:09.620 I would be terrified if I was a British Jew.
00:05:13.200 I think that Britain's on the same path as France, where synagogues have to be guarded by soldiers around the clock with submachine guns.
00:05:22.020 And where there are violent attacks on Jews on the street all the time.
00:05:28.480 We're starting to see a little bit of that in the UK and even in Canada.
00:05:33.180 And I don't know.
00:05:34.720 I'm glad I guess I was born when I was that I could have gotten to know London, even if it's in global decline.
00:05:42.360 I'm sure Rome in its final years was still a wonderful place.
00:05:46.760 The best restaurants, the best museums.
00:05:49.420 I mean, imagine all the antiquities that were brought from the Roman Empire to Rome.
00:05:54.200 You can still see some of them now.
00:05:55.480 But I fear that the UK, because of its essential politeness, isn't calling out some atrocious things on the street.
00:06:05.540 When I saw a picture of tens of thousands of people on the Westminster Bridge, and there were other bridges, all of them flying a foreign flag, all of them calling for violence against Israel, smash the terror state was what the socialist workers put on their pamphlets.
00:06:22.560 I couldn't help but think of what it would have been like in 1930s here.
00:06:28.760 There were some Nazi sympathizers in London during the 30s.
00:06:33.080 They were very careful to say they were not for violence, and they claimed they were not anti-Semitic.
00:06:37.120 They were very careful about it.
00:06:38.280 They just admired Hitler.
00:06:39.820 He was getting things back on track for Germany.
00:06:42.360 And wasn't he charismatic?
00:06:43.780 And the economy was booming under him.
00:06:47.220 But even in the 1930s, the pro-Nazi Brits, and there were a few, were extremely careful to avoid or even to condemn some of the excesses that were visible at the time of Hitler.
00:07:02.760 Not so here.
00:07:04.000 We spoke to a few media-savvy Muslim protesters who tried to dance around these questions.
00:07:11.280 I think they were putting on a liberal face.
00:07:14.500 I think most of the protesters were simply regurgitating the propaganda lines put to them, or truly would say, yes, from the river to the sea, drive every Jew out.
00:07:24.880 That is the Hamas charter.
00:07:26.440 That's what the chant from the river to the sea means.
00:07:28.760 And I remember when I was in elementary school, we learned about something called the Golden Age of Jews in Spain.
00:07:34.900 And it ended in 1492 with the Inquisition and the expulsion of Jews.
00:07:40.440 But there was this time, a period of decades, even centuries, where a Jew in Spain had many rights and had great freedom.
00:07:49.720 And I think that was the way in Germany until the 30s.
00:07:52.880 It was great to be a Jew in Berlin.
00:07:55.560 Jews were very successful.
00:07:56.620 Half the doctors in Berlin were Jewish.
00:08:00.340 Imagine how the Nuremberg laws affected that city.
00:08:04.080 And I feel like I was born in the Golden Age for Jews in America, in Canada.
00:08:09.760 I mean, what a lucky and easy childhood I had.
00:08:12.260 Never did I ever feel in any risk or any threat.
00:08:16.640 And I genuinely felt that there was nothing in the country I couldn't do, no goal I couldn't aspire to.
00:08:24.640 And while the mass rally of 100,000 neo-Nazis, speaking Arabic instead of German, 100,000 neo-Nazis flying the new swastika.
00:08:37.700 And the left is all in favor of it.
00:08:39.480 And the center is afraid of it.
00:08:40.780 And all the polite Brits don't want to make a fuss.
00:08:43.300 And it reminds me of Kipling's poem.
00:08:46.060 And remember, Kipling was born in India and he loved the Indian people.
00:08:50.400 The stranger within my gate, he may be true or kind, but he does not talk my talk.
00:08:56.620 I cannot feel his mind.
00:08:58.760 I see the face and the eyes and the mouth, but not the soul behind.
00:09:02.680 And I'll read a little bit more.
00:09:03.560 But that reminds me of that young woman that David Menzies found in Mississauga.
00:09:07.680 She looks lovely, actually.
00:09:09.460 She looks friendly.
00:09:10.500 She's beautiful.
00:09:11.200 She's young.
00:09:12.000 And by the way, I don't know if she still works or she works at a normal store.
00:09:15.740 Like, she's not a professional activist.
00:09:19.360 And I'm sure she has colleagues of different races and religions.
00:09:23.260 But when things hit the fan, she said anything Hamas did is justified.
00:09:28.700 Here, here's a little clip reminding you of that.
00:09:31.180 Including what happened last week?
00:09:32.660 Every single thing they have done is justified.
00:09:35.580 Ma'am, there were children murdered.
00:09:37.240 There were babies beheaded.
00:09:39.540 Babies beheaded, really?
00:09:41.340 Let me read a little more of the poem.
00:09:42.460 The men of my own stock, they may do ill or well, but they tell the lies I am wanted
00:09:47.000 to, and they are used to the lies I tell.
00:09:49.820 And we do not need interpreters when we go to buy or sell.
00:09:53.200 And here's the terrifying line.
00:09:54.960 And this was written 100 years ago.
00:09:56.920 But it's how I felt yesterday watching 100,000 people brave for the murder of the Jews.
00:10:02.860 Now, they didn't say murder the Jews.
00:10:04.660 They said it in code.
00:10:05.600 They said, from the river to the sea.
00:10:07.440 Basically, get every Jew out of Israel.
00:10:14.800 Oh, and by the way, Hamas says get every Jew out of everywhere.
00:10:18.220 Here's the poem.
00:10:18.880 Here's the stanza in the poem that terrifies me.
00:10:21.120 The stranger within my gates, he may be evil or good, but I cannot tell what powers control,
00:10:28.200 what reasons sway his mood, nor when the gods of his far-off land shall repossess his blood.
00:10:33.400 I'm not looking or expecting everyone to support Israel, or I'm not looking for Muslims to love
00:10:41.360 Jews or for people to support Benjamin Netanyahu, who's a divisive figure even within Israel.
00:10:47.000 But I had a feeling deep in my bones that here in, well, I'm here in London, but in London,
00:10:53.580 but also in North America and in Canada, we had some basic common ground, some civic nationalism,
00:11:00.820 if you will, where we all sort of agreed murder is bad, rape is bad, torture is bad,
00:11:06.460 kidnapping of civilian hostages is bad.
00:11:09.200 And those things are bad.
00:11:10.380 We had a basic understanding.
00:11:11.640 And so if you and I disagreed about something, whether it was Palestine or Russia or Ukraine
00:11:17.120 or what the GST should be, we would have a commonality.
00:11:22.740 And even if we were mean to each other, there was a basis upon which we had a unity, a basis,
00:11:29.060 a kind of social contract that we knew we could understand each other.
00:11:34.180 And what Kipling's writing, and I'm not going to read the whole poem, what Kipling is saying
00:11:37.760 is that there are wonderful people of every background there who may be kind and good and
00:11:44.380 noble and tremendous, but maybe every once in a while something happens and it reveals
00:11:50.900 a deep underlying incompatibility.
00:11:55.240 And I fear that what I saw on the streets of London yesterday is not something that can
00:12:00.000 be, there's no antidote of, well, let's just have a unit in grade four where they'll study
00:12:07.060 the Holocaust.
00:12:08.320 I'm sorry, that's not going to change the mind of 100,000 people and probably a million
00:12:13.000 more cheering them on who deeply hate Jews and want the Jewish state eradicated.
00:12:19.140 This isn't a matter of haggling over details or compromise.
00:12:22.880 I think it is a deep incompatibility.
00:12:26.400 And I'm not saying that about all Muslims or of all socialists.
00:12:29.860 They were, like I say, about a quarter of the people there were communists and socialists.
00:12:33.440 I'm saying there are some people who we've led into the UK and into Canada and the United
00:12:38.860 States who have not come to be a part of Canada and the United States to integrate and to assimilate,
00:12:44.540 even bringing with them their religions.
00:12:47.020 I think they have come, as another man that David Menzies interviewed a few years ago said,
00:12:53.080 let me remind you of an incredible interview that David Menzies did at an Al-Quds Day protest
00:12:57.820 in Toronto.
00:12:59.200 Let the man speak for himself.
00:13:00.480 Take a look at this.
00:13:01.720 So would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law?
00:13:05.760 At some point it will.
00:13:07.100 You know, because we have families, we are making babies.
00:13:10.320 You're not.
00:13:11.500 Your population is going down the slump.
00:13:14.300 That's right.
00:13:14.620 Right?
00:13:15.060 Yeah.
00:13:15.460 By 2016, Muslims will be the biggest religious group the world over.
00:13:19.900 Right.
00:13:20.340 What are you going to do then?
00:13:21.600 Actually.
00:13:22.120 You can go post-Sharia even then?
00:13:23.640 Because we owe our allegiance and our loyalty first and foremost to our religion, not to
00:13:29.720 the queen, to be honest.
00:13:31.420 When I went for my so-called oath, I was silent.
00:13:34.780 I didn't say anything.
00:13:35.720 It was your responsibility to make sure you got it out of me.
00:13:38.460 Did you see that?
00:13:39.940 He's a colonizer.
00:13:41.340 He's the imperialist now.
00:13:43.320 He says that when the numbers are there, Sharia law will rule.
00:13:46.020 He said he was silent in his citizenship ceremony when he was supposed to make the oath.
00:13:50.900 He said it was on you to make me say the oath.
00:13:54.300 I have many Muslim friends, including on the board of our company, our staff.
00:13:59.220 I've had Muslim friends since I was in high school.
00:14:01.840 I consider myself very lucky to have met Muslims when they were a very small part of the community
00:14:08.840 and I made true friendships with them.
00:14:10.380 I agree with some and disagree with others on different politics, but I'm afraid, even
00:14:16.800 if it's only a portion of these migrants, that a terrible thing was awakened when that
00:14:25.060 barbaric attack on Israel happened.
00:14:27.320 Let me clarify and close with this.
00:14:29.580 I'm not asking for the Muslims or the Arabs or the Palestinians of London or even of Canada
00:14:36.740 to share my views on the future state of affairs in the Middle East.
00:14:41.660 I'm not asking for that.
00:14:43.160 I'm not even asking for them to love Jews as Christians love others.
00:14:48.740 But what terrifies me is that so many of them, like that man at the Al-Quds rally or that
00:14:53.800 woman in Mississauga, on the outside, they look friendly and Canadian and they're drinking
00:14:59.820 their Tim Hortons and they're working beside colleagues of every background.
00:15:03.760 But every once in a while, the mask drops and an absolutely terrifying anti-Semitism reveals
00:15:12.240 itself.
00:15:13.500 I'm afraid of it and I don't know what to do.
00:15:16.260 I think the first thing you do is you stop making it worse.
00:15:19.320 I think new immigrants to the West should be asked basic questions about cultural compatibility.
00:15:24.800 Do you believe in pluralism, in non-violent solutions to problems, in the equality of men and
00:15:30.540 women? Do you believe in the separation of mosque and state and the separation of church and state?
00:15:37.140 I think that we've let in too many people who have not been asked to become British or to become
00:15:42.840 Canadian. We don't say integrate or assimilate anymore. We say include. Inclusion. Canada has to do
00:15:49.420 the changing, not the newcomers. This trip, I'm here because I was invited to attend the ARC conference
00:15:55.920 that Jordan Peterson and others have convened later this week. It's sort of an antidote to
00:16:01.540 the World Economic Forum. There are wonderful, brilliant people in London and I hope there
00:16:05.520 always will be. It's one of the world's greatest cities and there's amazing thinkers and doers here.
00:16:10.360 But there's definitely two Londons. There's the London of Shakespeare and Parliament and the history
00:16:19.160 in the Magna Carta. But then there is a new London and we saw it on the streets yesterday.
00:16:24.900 For Rebel News, I'm Ezra Levant.
00:16:38.220 Ezra Levant here for Rebel News. I'm at the ARC conference, which is a giant conference,
00:16:43.260 almost 2,000 people here from all over the Anglosphere, not just the Anglosphere.
00:16:47.320 Frankly, there are people here from over 70 countries. It was imagined as a sort of counterweight
00:16:54.100 to the World Economic Forum or the United Nations. But ARC stands for Alliance for Responsible
00:16:59.320 Citizenship. So it gives you a bit of a flavor. And we're over here in London, England. But wouldn't
00:17:04.780 you know it, I bump into my fellow Canadian. In fact, we're both from Calgary originally,
00:17:09.180 Amanda Actman. And she just told me about some of the stuff she's up to. That's, I think,
00:17:13.580 one of the big pluses of this ARC conference is it's sort of a networking thing for freedom-oriented
00:17:18.620 people around the world. And I just thought, well, let me grab my friend Amanda for a moment,
00:17:22.560 because, boy, she told me some interesting things that she's up to. Amanda, great to see you.
00:17:26.840 Great to see you again, Ezra, at this big reunion of so many people doing great work,
00:17:31.100 really worldwide, as you touched on. As you know, one of my most passionate issues is life,
00:17:37.140 respect for life. And this has been coming up throughout this conference, that what is the value,
00:17:43.580 a civilisation worthy of defence. And we're hearing about the Judeo-Christian tradition,
00:17:47.540 we're hearing about Western civilisation. But ultimately, I think it was really touched upon
00:17:51.180 with the preservation of life. And this is something that Canadians are losing touch with,
00:17:56.380 particularly with the radical expansion of euthanasia. At first, when euthanasia was legalised
00:18:02.660 nationwide, we were told this was for those who were terminally ill, with grievous and irremediable
00:18:08.200 conditions. And now we're at the point where I think euthanasia deaths in Canada are on par,
00:18:14.360 if not exceeding total deaths from COVID. We've seen the fourth annual report come out about
00:18:20.160 euthanasia in Canada. And who authored that report?
00:18:22.740 So this is a Health Canada report, the government's own data indicating that more than 40,000 Canadians
00:18:28.180 have been euthanised since 2016, since legalisation.
00:18:32.500 That is a COVID level number.
00:18:35.320 Yeah, absolutely. And we're seeing that more and more doctors are euthanising people,
00:18:40.280 nurses too, that one of the data points that kind of surprised me is it's not only in hospitals,
00:18:45.160 they're very often going to private homes. And I saw on the Government of Canada website,
00:18:50.300 that it said, even if you do not have a family doctor, we will send a doctor to you to euthanise
00:18:56.880 you. It is becoming a going saying that the only on-time healthcare is death in Canada. It's the
00:19:03.020 only treatment killing that you can be sure there won't be much of a waitlist for and will happen
00:19:08.700 in a timely manner. This is disgusting. It's a shame. And many people here know that Canada is the
00:19:14.140 euthanasia capital of the world. And they're asking me, why do you think Canada is so off the charts
00:19:21.200 with this? And I'd be curious to ask you, Ezra, what do you think it is about Canada that has made us
00:19:25.660 the euthanasia capital of the world? Well, that's super gross. And you said so many things there
00:19:30.320 that I want to respond to. But to answer your question, I think the number one reason is that
00:19:34.800 there has been no real national debate over it. I think a lot of the things you just said
00:19:39.620 will come as a complete surprise to Canadians. I think sometimes the foreign media has talked
00:19:45.920 more about it than the Canadian media. And I'm just hornswoggled by what you said there
00:19:52.700 about it is so hard to get a doctor in Canada, but they will move heaven and earth to send you to
00:20:01.400 heaven. And I saw that now they're going to expand it to people who are depressed.
00:20:07.060 And this is right. You're talking about international media. That has been key
00:20:10.360 for getting this year long legislative pause because the liberals felt the pressure,
00:20:14.360 I think largely due to international attention to pause it for one year. Of course,
00:20:19.340 we ought to make the pause permanent because euthanasia for those for whom a mental illness
00:20:24.420 is the sole underlying condition. This is crazy. People with depression, people with PTSD,
00:20:30.060 people with postpartum, there's no limit. Once euthanasia is seen as the answer to suffering,
00:20:36.340 there's no limit for who should qualify. And the sinister language of qualification,
00:20:41.080 eligibility, provision, recipient, we are talking about the intentional killing and premature
00:20:46.840 death of our fellow citizens and our loved ones. No one will be safe. And who can trust their doctor
00:20:53.080 in this scenario? You know, it's such a moral inversion. Of course, the simplest version of
00:20:57.420 the Hippocratic oath is do no harm. And here we have, and I don't know who, I don't know what doctors
00:21:05.000 would say, yes, that is, that is the profession for me. I could be a obstetrician and help give birth
00:21:14.400 to little babies. I could be a cancer specialist. I could be an emergency room surgeon. No, no, no.
00:21:19.440 I want to go out there and kill people. And they use so many euphemisms. And the one now is made
00:21:25.560 medical assistance in dying. They keep throwing away the old words once they become dirtied.
00:21:30.620 I think, I saw a stat the other day about a percentage of Canadians every year who die.
00:21:36.800 What percentage of that is from euthanasia? What's the latest stat you've heard?
00:21:41.520 That's right. Something like 4%. And now if it were noted as a cause of death,
00:21:45.880 it's like the fifth leading cause of death in Canada.
00:21:48.940 Sorry. And I don't mean to interrupt you, but I have to, because you shed a light on a proposal
00:21:53.780 from the Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons that when a doctor goes and kills someone,
00:21:59.520 that the death should be marked as the underlying condition rather than the euthanasia. So if someone
00:22:04.880 was depressed, they died from depression. If someone had cancer, they died from cancer,
00:22:09.700 when actually it was the doctor jabbing them with the, however they killed them.
00:22:14.800 That's right. And that reminded me of a site I visited when I was in Europe. The former
00:22:18.960 concentration camp, Matthausen, has actually a registry, a death register. And there was a prisoner
00:22:26.000 who was responsible for keeping tabs of the deaths in the camp. And next to each person who
00:22:31.660 received a lethal injection, this person put a little dot to indicate that this person had not
00:22:37.540 died of any sort of natural cause or even disease, but from a lethal injection. And so it's, it's so
00:22:43.840 sinister. And it does hearken back to the worst eugenic and euthanasia policies of the 20th century. And when
00:22:50.040 I asked a former leader of the euthanasia lobby, dying with dignity, why she no longer uses the word
00:22:55.760 euthanasia, she said, because of the associations. And by that, the Nazi associations, because euthanasia
00:23:02.040 was a Nazi tactic.
00:23:04.360 You know, you're so right. In the, in the thirties, it was the new fad. Sterilization.
00:23:12.040 Tommy Douglas, the, um, great NDP father figure, he did his, uh, university thesis on, um, eugenics
00:23:21.760 for the subnormal and, and, you know, people who were dirty. It was, it really was Nazi-like. Now,
00:23:29.260 to his credit, when he went to Nazi Germany and came back, he changed his mind, but it was a fashionable
00:23:34.940 fad. And that is absolutely what's going on here. Again, what's so crazy is we,
00:23:41.820 we should have learned the lessons from the Holocaust afterwards. There was the doctor
00:23:45.660 trials, the Nazi doctor trials in Nuremberg. And, and part of the sentence has been called
00:23:53.140 the Nuremberg code. And it was an extract from the, the verdict that the judges issued after
00:23:58.820 the trial. And it w it was, well, here's how the doctors were complicit in these horrendous
00:24:04.520 crimes. Here are a list of things that must never happen again. And we're, we really are
00:24:09.800 violating those, you know, there, there's this, I think it's called Godwin's law or something.
00:24:14.400 Whoever invokes Hitler first loses the argument. Well, that's not really true because what happens
00:24:19.060 if we're seeing Hitler-like laws and policies again, you have to call it out.
00:24:24.520 Right. And you and I have a passion for Holocaust education and with good reason. It's not only
00:24:28.620 one or the other thing. We have so much to learn about defense of human dignity from this. And I think
00:24:35.040 part of it is our remoteness in Canada from some of these sites in terms of our lack of engagement
00:24:40.080 with history. So you mentioned Nuremberg and the doctor's trial. Anyone can travel to Nuremberg in
00:24:44.960 Germany and visit the memorial and museum that commemorates this entire doctor's trial and shows
00:24:50.480 the faces of the people involved. And they were medical doctors. Yeah. The elite in the society.
00:24:54.980 And we're seeing this too, the professionalization of killing. And it's, it's very devastating. But I think
00:25:00.340 I just want to emphasize as well, we have to get back to why is this wrong ultimately? Because
00:25:06.180 people have so distorted the do no harm. And they think it's harmful not to kill a person,
00:25:11.920 including with a neurological condition or with a mental illness. You know, and they use that same
00:25:18.800 logic for chopping up kids into trans. Oh, if we don't do this extreme gender reassignment surgery,
00:25:27.060 we're killing them because we're driving them to suicide. You have the same perversion
00:25:30.500 of do no harm. Oh, we must engage with it. It's, it's the same. It's on the same spectrum.
00:25:36.640 We have lost a sense of proper accompaniment in the face of suffering because it's hard. And we are
00:25:44.020 expensive for the government. It's expensive. It's costly. But my, one of my favorite thinkers,
00:25:49.840 a German, a German Catholic during the second world war, he was reflecting on this. He was reflecting on
00:25:56.660 Nazi propaganda films. And he said, where's the deception here? And he said, the value of the
00:26:01.900 dependent vulnerable person is that that person makes an appeal to our inner nobility and to our
00:26:06.740 sacrificial strength. Take those people out of our lives and man becomes nothing but an egotistical
00:26:11.840 predator. And that is what we are at risk of becoming with this false compassion that would rather see
00:26:18.020 people dead than helped. And that, that eliminates our responsibility to respond to that appeal
00:26:25.420 heroically and magnanimously, which is what we're all responsible and accountable to do.
00:26:29.960 Wow. Listen, it's great to catch up with you. And, and you told me some of these things when we had a
00:26:34.240 chat inside. Um, so what are you up to now? And how, if people are watching and they say, holy moly,
00:26:40.240 Amanda's on fire. How do we see what she's doing? Do you have a website or something? And,
00:26:44.520 and what do you have coming down, uh, the pipe, uh, in the next few months?
00:26:48.420 Sure. So you can follow me on Twitter with my name, Amanda Actman, and then also dying to meet
00:26:52.900 you.com. My cultural project is called dying to meet you because I want to put forward a positive
00:26:57.800 alternative vision to euthanasia in Canada. And to say that through accompaniment, through presence,
00:27:04.040 through mental health supports, and through all the kinds of resources that people ultimately deserve,
00:27:09.380 and that there's no reason for them not to have in our first world, ostensibly developed country,
00:27:15.680 we have got to put forward a positive alternative vision because euthanasia is settling. It is
00:27:22.240 compromising. It is never, um, it's, it's never ideal. It's never attractive. And so I'm passionate
00:27:29.000 about telling stories and also showing how euthanasia, every culture traditionally is against
00:27:35.500 euthanasia. It violates the whole basis of a culture continuing. Honoring your mother and
00:27:40.120 father, for example. Yeah, absolutely. So we, I, I would challenge everyone. If I could say one
00:27:46.140 challenge to people is to see those who are doing the tough work of caregiving for a child with a
00:27:51.340 disability, of caring for an aging parent. It's not easy, but as a society, we will do a lot of good
00:27:57.180 when we come alongside and we value the people doing the work that is the opposite of euthanasia. So
00:28:01.440 think of the people, you know, in your life who are doing that magnanimous, heroic, self-sacrificial
00:28:06.660 work, affirm them in it, value them for it, because we need that positive vision to celebrate life
00:28:13.160 and to save people's lives. If this is going to meet any resistance to the euthanasia we've seen
00:28:18.220 rise in Canada. Well, there she is, Amanda Ackman, very heroic, lots to think about, lots to learn.
00:28:24.100 Canada is not known for many things as number one, but unfortunately we are becoming known for the
00:28:31.080 fact that we euthanize a tremendous number of our people. I mean, sometimes it breaks into the,
00:28:36.700 into the news, like when the Veterans Affairs counsels soldiers with PTSD just to kill themselves,
00:28:43.420 very disgraceful. The government pretends that was an accident, but we know it's just the tip
00:28:48.620 of the iceberg. Reporting from the ARC conference in London for Rebel News, this is Ezra Levant.
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