EZRA LEVANT: 100,000 Nazis speaking Arabic in ‘New’ London
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The England of the past, the England that informs our present, is in decline. I think that the British Empire, while, of course, it has been decolonized and in decline in some ways for a century, what I saw this weekend showed that England itself is being colonized. And I think what scares me about this colonization is not that these people are in the main of a different religion or a different race, but that they were people who came here and had a cultural value that made them celebrate the barbarity of Hamas.
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Mr. Levant here, I'm standing in London, England, behind me, Westminster Abbey, a church where kings and queens have been crowned, royal weddings and funerals.
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It's the heart of England, this ancient place, with a history going back centuries, millennia even.
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It's a Christian history, it's a history of the West, it's the history of North America, which emanated from the British Empire.
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It's the history of our language, it's the history of Winston Churchill, our notions of freedom of speech and the rule of law, the Magna Carta dating back to 1215.
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But what I've learned over the last few days is that the England of the past, the England that informs our present, I think it's in decline.
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There's this social media meme going on, it's really funny, girls or women ask each other, ask your boyfriend how often he thinks of the Roman Empire.
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How many times a week does he think of the Roman Empire?
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Or just how many times in general do you think about the Roman Empire?
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Not a lot? When was the last time you thought about it?
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And they're stunned when their boyfriends say things like every week or every day.
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And it's sort of funny, and I'm not sure how true it is, but when you think about it, the Roman Empire and the British Empire,
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well, we think about them all the time, even if we don't know we do, because everything we do and say and think
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and how we organize ourselves and interact with each other came from the British Empire.
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And that in some ways came from the Roman Empire before it, Londinium is where I'm standing.
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And I think that the British Empire, while, of course, it has been decolonized and has been in decline in some ways for a century,
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what I saw this weekend showed that England itself is being colonized.
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And I'm not using colonized as a byword for just immigration.
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If you think about the empire itself, it was a multicultural, multiracial, global enterprise.
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One of my favorite poets, Rudyard Kipling, was born in India.
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If you can imagine what the port of London was like and other ports 400 years ago when Shakespeare was writing,
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I mean, they had the adventures to America and to India.
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I'm talking about colonization because what I saw on the streets of London yesterday were 100,000 people marching under a foreign flag.
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I spent hours on the street and then I looked at social media for hours later.
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The only British flag, the only Union Jack I saw all day were held by some Nigerian Christian tourists who were in a group.
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Other than that, I didn't see a single British flag.
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I saw some darker flags, which I don't quite know.
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They looked like they may be an Islamic State flag or something.
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But even without the flags, what I saw is a loyalty to a religion and a political movement that was completely un-British,
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that had nothing to do with the rule of law or King Charles, that was calling for, as Hamas does, Sharia law, that preaches violence.
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It made me profoundly sad that although the British Empire has, I suppose, been in decline for a century, Britain itself was still Britain.
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And I think what scares me about this colonization is not that these people are in the main of a different religion or a different race.
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I should say about a quarter of the marchers were hardcore left-wing indigenous Brits, white post-Christian Brits.
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But three-quarters of them were people who came here and had a cultural value that made them celebrate the barbarity of the Hamas attacks.
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And I asked a number of protesters if they would just simply describe Hamas as a terrorist group or not.
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But the Muslim folks I spoke to just refused to answer that question.
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They are trying to take the words of the Holocaust and flip them around on the Jews.
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Undermining the truth about the history of the Jews and weaponizing the anti-Semitism in London.
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I think that Britain's on the same path as France, where synagogues have to be guarded by soldiers around the clock with submachine guns.
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And where there are violent attacks on Jews on the street all the time.
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We're starting to see a little bit of that in the UK and even in Canada.
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I'm glad I guess I was born when I was that I could have gotten to know London, even if it's in global decline.
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I'm sure Rome in its final years was still a wonderful place.
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I mean, imagine all the antiquities that were brought from the Roman Empire to Rome.
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But I fear that the UK, because of its essential politeness, isn't calling out some atrocious things on the street.
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When I saw a picture of tens of thousands of people on the Westminster Bridge, and there were other bridges, all of them flying a foreign flag, all of them calling for violence against Israel, smash the terror state was what the socialist workers put on their pamphlets.
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I couldn't help but think of what it would have been like in 1930s here.
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There were some Nazi sympathizers in London during the 30s.
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They were very careful to say they were not for violence, and they claimed they were not anti-Semitic.
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He was getting things back on track for Germany.
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But even in the 1930s, the pro-Nazi Brits, and there were a few, were extremely careful to avoid or even to condemn some of the excesses that were visible at the time of Hitler.
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We spoke to a few media-savvy Muslim protesters who tried to dance around these questions.
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I think most of the protesters were simply regurgitating the propaganda lines put to them, or truly would say, yes, from the river to the sea, drive every Jew out.
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That's what the chant from the river to the sea means.
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And I remember when I was in elementary school, we learned about something called the Golden Age of Jews in Spain.
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And it ended in 1492 with the Inquisition and the expulsion of Jews.
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But there was this time, a period of decades, even centuries, where a Jew in Spain had many rights and had great freedom.
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And I think that was the way in Germany until the 30s.
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Imagine how the Nuremberg laws affected that city.
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And I feel like I was born in the Golden Age for Jews in America, in Canada.
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Never did I ever feel in any risk or any threat.
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And I genuinely felt that there was nothing in the country I couldn't do, no goal I couldn't aspire to.
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And while the mass rally of 100,000 neo-Nazis, speaking Arabic instead of German, 100,000 neo-Nazis flying the new swastika.
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And all the polite Brits don't want to make a fuss.
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And remember, Kipling was born in India and he loved the Indian people.
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The stranger within my gate, he may be true or kind, but he does not talk my talk.
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I see the face and the eyes and the mouth, but not the soul behind.
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But that reminds me of that young woman that David Menzies found in Mississauga.
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And by the way, I don't know if she still works or she works at a normal store.
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And I'm sure she has colleagues of different races and religions.
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But when things hit the fan, she said anything Hamas did is justified.
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Here, here's a little clip reminding you of that.
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Every single thing they have done is justified.
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The men of my own stock, they may do ill or well, but they tell the lies I am wanted
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And we do not need interpreters when we go to buy or sell.
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But it's how I felt yesterday watching 100,000 people brave for the murder of the Jews.
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Oh, and by the way, Hamas says get every Jew out of everywhere.
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Here's the stanza in the poem that terrifies me.
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The stranger within my gates, he may be evil or good, but I cannot tell what powers control,
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what reasons sway his mood, nor when the gods of his far-off land shall repossess his blood.
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I'm not looking or expecting everyone to support Israel, or I'm not looking for Muslims to love
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Jews or for people to support Benjamin Netanyahu, who's a divisive figure even within Israel.
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But I had a feeling deep in my bones that here in, well, I'm here in London, but in London,
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but also in North America and in Canada, we had some basic common ground, some civic nationalism,
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if you will, where we all sort of agreed murder is bad, rape is bad, torture is bad,
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And so if you and I disagreed about something, whether it was Palestine or Russia or Ukraine
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or what the GST should be, we would have a commonality.
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And even if we were mean to each other, there was a basis upon which we had a unity, a basis,
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a kind of social contract that we knew we could understand each other.
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And what Kipling's writing, and I'm not going to read the whole poem, what Kipling is saying
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is that there are wonderful people of every background there who may be kind and good and
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noble and tremendous, but maybe every once in a while something happens and it reveals
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And I fear that what I saw on the streets of London yesterday is not something that can
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be, there's no antidote of, well, let's just have a unit in grade four where they'll study
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I'm sorry, that's not going to change the mind of 100,000 people and probably a million
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more cheering them on who deeply hate Jews and want the Jewish state eradicated.
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This isn't a matter of haggling over details or compromise.
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And I'm not saying that about all Muslims or of all socialists.
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They were, like I say, about a quarter of the people there were communists and socialists.
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I'm saying there are some people who we've led into the UK and into Canada and the United
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States who have not come to be a part of Canada and the United States to integrate and to assimilate,
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I think they have come, as another man that David Menzies interviewed a few years ago said,
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let me remind you of an incredible interview that David Menzies did at an Al-Quds Day protest
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So would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law?
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You know, because we have families, we are making babies.
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By 2016, Muslims will be the biggest religious group the world over.
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Because we owe our allegiance and our loyalty first and foremost to our religion, not to
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When I went for my so-called oath, I was silent.
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It was your responsibility to make sure you got it out of me.
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He says that when the numbers are there, Sharia law will rule.
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He said he was silent in his citizenship ceremony when he was supposed to make the oath.
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I have many Muslim friends, including on the board of our company, our staff.
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I've had Muslim friends since I was in high school.
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I consider myself very lucky to have met Muslims when they were a very small part of the community
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I agree with some and disagree with others on different politics, but I'm afraid, even
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if it's only a portion of these migrants, that a terrible thing was awakened when that
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I'm not asking for the Muslims or the Arabs or the Palestinians of London or even of Canada
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to share my views on the future state of affairs in the Middle East.
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I'm not even asking for them to love Jews as Christians love others.
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But what terrifies me is that so many of them, like that man at the Al-Quds rally or that
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woman in Mississauga, on the outside, they look friendly and Canadian and they're drinking
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their Tim Hortons and they're working beside colleagues of every background.
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But every once in a while, the mask drops and an absolutely terrifying anti-Semitism reveals
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I think the first thing you do is you stop making it worse.
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I think new immigrants to the West should be asked basic questions about cultural compatibility.
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Do you believe in pluralism, in non-violent solutions to problems, in the equality of men and
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women? Do you believe in the separation of mosque and state and the separation of church and state?
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I think that we've let in too many people who have not been asked to become British or to become
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Canadian. We don't say integrate or assimilate anymore. We say include. Inclusion. Canada has to do
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the changing, not the newcomers. This trip, I'm here because I was invited to attend the ARC conference
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that Jordan Peterson and others have convened later this week. It's sort of an antidote to
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the World Economic Forum. There are wonderful, brilliant people in London and I hope there
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always will be. It's one of the world's greatest cities and there's amazing thinkers and doers here.
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But there's definitely two Londons. There's the London of Shakespeare and Parliament and the history
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in the Magna Carta. But then there is a new London and we saw it on the streets yesterday.
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Ezra Levant here for Rebel News. I'm at the ARC conference, which is a giant conference,
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almost 2,000 people here from all over the Anglosphere, not just the Anglosphere.
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Frankly, there are people here from over 70 countries. It was imagined as a sort of counterweight
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to the World Economic Forum or the United Nations. But ARC stands for Alliance for Responsible
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Citizenship. So it gives you a bit of a flavor. And we're over here in London, England. But wouldn't
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you know it, I bump into my fellow Canadian. In fact, we're both from Calgary originally,
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Amanda Actman. And she just told me about some of the stuff she's up to. That's, I think,
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one of the big pluses of this ARC conference is it's sort of a networking thing for freedom-oriented
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people around the world. And I just thought, well, let me grab my friend Amanda for a moment,
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because, boy, she told me some interesting things that she's up to. Amanda, great to see you.
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Great to see you again, Ezra, at this big reunion of so many people doing great work,
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really worldwide, as you touched on. As you know, one of my most passionate issues is life,
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respect for life. And this has been coming up throughout this conference, that what is the value,
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a civilisation worthy of defence. And we're hearing about the Judeo-Christian tradition,
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we're hearing about Western civilisation. But ultimately, I think it was really touched upon
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with the preservation of life. And this is something that Canadians are losing touch with,
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particularly with the radical expansion of euthanasia. At first, when euthanasia was legalised
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nationwide, we were told this was for those who were terminally ill, with grievous and irremediable
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conditions. And now we're at the point where I think euthanasia deaths in Canada are on par,
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if not exceeding total deaths from COVID. We've seen the fourth annual report come out about
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euthanasia in Canada. And who authored that report?
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So this is a Health Canada report, the government's own data indicating that more than 40,000 Canadians
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have been euthanised since 2016, since legalisation.
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Yeah, absolutely. And we're seeing that more and more doctors are euthanising people,
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nurses too, that one of the data points that kind of surprised me is it's not only in hospitals,
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they're very often going to private homes. And I saw on the Government of Canada website,
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that it said, even if you do not have a family doctor, we will send a doctor to you to euthanise
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you. It is becoming a going saying that the only on-time healthcare is death in Canada. It's the
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only treatment killing that you can be sure there won't be much of a waitlist for and will happen
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in a timely manner. This is disgusting. It's a shame. And many people here know that Canada is the
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euthanasia capital of the world. And they're asking me, why do you think Canada is so off the charts
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with this? And I'd be curious to ask you, Ezra, what do you think it is about Canada that has made us
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the euthanasia capital of the world? Well, that's super gross. And you said so many things there
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that I want to respond to. But to answer your question, I think the number one reason is that
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there has been no real national debate over it. I think a lot of the things you just said
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will come as a complete surprise to Canadians. I think sometimes the foreign media has talked
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more about it than the Canadian media. And I'm just hornswoggled by what you said there
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about it is so hard to get a doctor in Canada, but they will move heaven and earth to send you to
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heaven. And I saw that now they're going to expand it to people who are depressed.
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And this is right. You're talking about international media. That has been key
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for getting this year long legislative pause because the liberals felt the pressure,
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I think largely due to international attention to pause it for one year. Of course,
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we ought to make the pause permanent because euthanasia for those for whom a mental illness
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is the sole underlying condition. This is crazy. People with depression, people with PTSD,
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people with postpartum, there's no limit. Once euthanasia is seen as the answer to suffering,
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there's no limit for who should qualify. And the sinister language of qualification,
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eligibility, provision, recipient, we are talking about the intentional killing and premature
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death of our fellow citizens and our loved ones. No one will be safe. And who can trust their doctor
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in this scenario? You know, it's such a moral inversion. Of course, the simplest version of
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the Hippocratic oath is do no harm. And here we have, and I don't know who, I don't know what doctors
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would say, yes, that is, that is the profession for me. I could be a obstetrician and help give birth
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to little babies. I could be a cancer specialist. I could be an emergency room surgeon. No, no, no.
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I want to go out there and kill people. And they use so many euphemisms. And the one now is made
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medical assistance in dying. They keep throwing away the old words once they become dirtied.
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I think, I saw a stat the other day about a percentage of Canadians every year who die.
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What percentage of that is from euthanasia? What's the latest stat you've heard?
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That's right. Something like 4%. And now if it were noted as a cause of death,
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it's like the fifth leading cause of death in Canada.
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Sorry. And I don't mean to interrupt you, but I have to, because you shed a light on a proposal
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from the Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons that when a doctor goes and kills someone,
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that the death should be marked as the underlying condition rather than the euthanasia. So if someone
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was depressed, they died from depression. If someone had cancer, they died from cancer,
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when actually it was the doctor jabbing them with the, however they killed them.
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That's right. And that reminded me of a site I visited when I was in Europe. The former
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concentration camp, Matthausen, has actually a registry, a death register. And there was a prisoner
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who was responsible for keeping tabs of the deaths in the camp. And next to each person who
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received a lethal injection, this person put a little dot to indicate that this person had not
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died of any sort of natural cause or even disease, but from a lethal injection. And so it's, it's so
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sinister. And it does hearken back to the worst eugenic and euthanasia policies of the 20th century. And when
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I asked a former leader of the euthanasia lobby, dying with dignity, why she no longer uses the word
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euthanasia, she said, because of the associations. And by that, the Nazi associations, because euthanasia
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You know, you're so right. In the, in the thirties, it was the new fad. Sterilization.
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Tommy Douglas, the, um, great NDP father figure, he did his, uh, university thesis on, um, eugenics
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for the subnormal and, and, you know, people who were dirty. It was, it really was Nazi-like. Now,
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to his credit, when he went to Nazi Germany and came back, he changed his mind, but it was a fashionable
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fad. And that is absolutely what's going on here. Again, what's so crazy is we,
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we should have learned the lessons from the Holocaust afterwards. There was the doctor
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trials, the Nazi doctor trials in Nuremberg. And, and part of the sentence has been called
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the Nuremberg code. And it was an extract from the, the verdict that the judges issued after
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the trial. And it w it was, well, here's how the doctors were complicit in these horrendous
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crimes. Here are a list of things that must never happen again. And we're, we really are
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violating those, you know, there, there's this, I think it's called Godwin's law or something.
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Whoever invokes Hitler first loses the argument. Well, that's not really true because what happens
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if we're seeing Hitler-like laws and policies again, you have to call it out.
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Right. And you and I have a passion for Holocaust education and with good reason. It's not only
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one or the other thing. We have so much to learn about defense of human dignity from this. And I think
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part of it is our remoteness in Canada from some of these sites in terms of our lack of engagement
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with history. So you mentioned Nuremberg and the doctor's trial. Anyone can travel to Nuremberg in
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Germany and visit the memorial and museum that commemorates this entire doctor's trial and shows
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the faces of the people involved. And they were medical doctors. Yeah. The elite in the society.
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And we're seeing this too, the professionalization of killing. And it's, it's very devastating. But I think
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I just want to emphasize as well, we have to get back to why is this wrong ultimately? Because
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people have so distorted the do no harm. And they think it's harmful not to kill a person,
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including with a neurological condition or with a mental illness. You know, and they use that same
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logic for chopping up kids into trans. Oh, if we don't do this extreme gender reassignment surgery,
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we're killing them because we're driving them to suicide. You have the same perversion
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of do no harm. Oh, we must engage with it. It's, it's the same. It's on the same spectrum.
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We have lost a sense of proper accompaniment in the face of suffering because it's hard. And we are
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expensive for the government. It's expensive. It's costly. But my, one of my favorite thinkers,
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a German, a German Catholic during the second world war, he was reflecting on this. He was reflecting on
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Nazi propaganda films. And he said, where's the deception here? And he said, the value of the
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dependent vulnerable person is that that person makes an appeal to our inner nobility and to our
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sacrificial strength. Take those people out of our lives and man becomes nothing but an egotistical
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predator. And that is what we are at risk of becoming with this false compassion that would rather see
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people dead than helped. And that, that eliminates our responsibility to respond to that appeal
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heroically and magnanimously, which is what we're all responsible and accountable to do.
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Wow. Listen, it's great to catch up with you. And, and you told me some of these things when we had a
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chat inside. Um, so what are you up to now? And how, if people are watching and they say, holy moly,
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Amanda's on fire. How do we see what she's doing? Do you have a website or something? And,
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and what do you have coming down, uh, the pipe, uh, in the next few months?
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Sure. So you can follow me on Twitter with my name, Amanda Actman, and then also dying to meet
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you.com. My cultural project is called dying to meet you because I want to put forward a positive
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alternative vision to euthanasia in Canada. And to say that through accompaniment, through presence,
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through mental health supports, and through all the kinds of resources that people ultimately deserve,
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and that there's no reason for them not to have in our first world, ostensibly developed country,
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we have got to put forward a positive alternative vision because euthanasia is settling. It is
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compromising. It is never, um, it's, it's never ideal. It's never attractive. And so I'm passionate
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about telling stories and also showing how euthanasia, every culture traditionally is against
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euthanasia. It violates the whole basis of a culture continuing. Honoring your mother and
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father, for example. Yeah, absolutely. So we, I, I would challenge everyone. If I could say one
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challenge to people is to see those who are doing the tough work of caregiving for a child with a
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disability, of caring for an aging parent. It's not easy, but as a society, we will do a lot of good
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when we come alongside and we value the people doing the work that is the opposite of euthanasia. So
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think of the people, you know, in your life who are doing that magnanimous, heroic, self-sacrificial
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work, affirm them in it, value them for it, because we need that positive vision to celebrate life
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and to save people's lives. If this is going to meet any resistance to the euthanasia we've seen
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rise in Canada. Well, there she is, Amanda Ackman, very heroic, lots to think about, lots to learn.
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Canada is not known for many things as number one, but unfortunately we are becoming known for the
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fact that we euthanize a tremendous number of our people. I mean, sometimes it breaks into the,
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into the news, like when the Veterans Affairs counsels soldiers with PTSD just to kill themselves,
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very disgraceful. The government pretends that was an accident, but we know it's just the tip
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of the iceberg. Reporting from the ARC conference in London for Rebel News, this is Ezra Levant.
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