EZRA LEVANT ｜ 1,500 people gather in Regina to hear a banned speech
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Tonight, 1,500 people gather in Regina, Saskatchewan to hear a banned speech. Well, we re unbanning it. It s September 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show. Why should others go to jail when you re the biggest carbon consumer?
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Tonight, 1,500 people gather in Regina, Saskatchewan to hear a banned speech.
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It's September 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVance Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher
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They're doing a little bit of renovations or construction or landscaping something.
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I don't know if you can make it out, but there's an orange construction fence around the building.
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When I first came here this afternoon, I thought, is the place being locked down?
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Is that a barrier to stop people from coming in?
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And I was only half joking because I should tell you, about two years ago,
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Dr. Patrick Moore, the co-founder of Greenpeace, was invited by the city of Regina itself,
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by the government, to take part in a conference.
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The conference was on renewables or green this or that.
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He was, of course, the co-founder of Greenpeace,
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and has been a thoughtful environmentalist ever since.
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In fact, he parted ways with Greenpeace after several years when he found they were becoming
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too political and too strident and not scientific enough.
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The Greenpeacers don't like him, but I think common sense environmentalists do.
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Anyways, they invited Dr. Moore as part of literally more than a dozen speakers,
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And I have to tell you, Regina and Saskatchewan, and frankly, most Canadians are not really
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into cancel culture other than, you know, the wokest universities.
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Like, it's just not, I think, an endemic problem in Regina.
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But it was whipped up by the so-called intellectuals.
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In fact, I have to say, the media itself were the worst.
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And after a few days of a confected campaign, the city, very poor manners,
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rescinded their invitation to Dr. Moore to speak.
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That's like inviting someone to your house for a Christmas party.
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He accepts, and then someone else says, I'm not coming if he's coming.
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Well, I called up Dr. Moore almost immediately.
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Let them have their tiny, teeny conference with, I don't know, 250 people.
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And as you can see behind me, the Connexus Arts Center,
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and it proved that Saskatchewan does not believe in silencing people.
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That's why I joked that when I came here and I saw that fence,
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In fact, we took the Saskatchewan government to court for banning gatherings.
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We took them to court, but before we could get to trial,
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And so here we are, about a year and a half after we first planned on having it,
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people are already trickling in, even though it doesn't start for an hour.
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Of the, I can't remember the total number of people who bought tickets until it was postponed,
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but it's amazing to me that we still have 1,500 people who have kept their ticket.
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And I think it's actually going to be the largest gathering in Saskatchewan,
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with the possible exception of professional sports,
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And I'm very proud that it's Rebel who's sponsoring it.
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And we'll have some excerpts for you in tomorrow's show from the event tonight.
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I've had the pleasure of hearing Dr. Moore speak several times,
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and I always learn something, and I always have gained a deeper respect for the man.
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Just wanted to explain what I'm doing in lovely Regina.
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and then I'm going to come back with Sheila Gunn-Reed,
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We've got Alexa Lavoie, who came in from Quebec.
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In fact, we've got one coming up in Calgary in a couple weeks
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But I'll take a break now, and we'll come back with Sheila Gunn-Reed.
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Well, Adam, joining us now here in the Queen City of Regina
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with a bit of a beaver dam or lake or there's some water critters behind us
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is my friend Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter,
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who trekked in from the Edmonton area to be here tonight
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for our great big event with Dr. Patrick Moore.
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Well, yeah, this is the first time I've been to an event of this size in Canada
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The last event of any size I was at was actually the church,
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the Grace Life Church in Edmonton, and they were cracked down on by comps.
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Yeah, I mean, it's been a strange but refreshing experience to be in Saskatchewan
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because, as you know, Alberta has suddenly lost its mind and gone back to masks.
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Nobody's wearing masks here, not anybody, not in a store, not in a restaurant.
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I mean, we're here a couple hours early, but people are already coming.
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Some people even coming in from other provinces.
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I think at first people were coming to spite the cancelers, the de-platformers.
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And now I think people are coming, as you say, as a return to normalcy,
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to live our life like we did in the before times.
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But I want to ask you about something you did on your way over here in the car.
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And it's interesting, one of the things that COVID has done is it's allowed us access
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electronically to courts, for example, that wouldn't have been the way before the lockdown.
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So you were listening to the hearing today of the government of Alberta under the ministry
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of Tyler Shandro, the health minister, asking a judge to put Arthur Pawlowski and his brother
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Today was the second day of the submissions for penalties for Pastor Art and his brother
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David, because they have been found guilty of contempt of not one, but two court orders.
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And for people who may not have been following along as closely as everybody else, the first
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court order gave the government the ability to basically search and inspect his church during
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services, literally all day from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.
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And so they found him in contempt of that judge's court order.
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And the second court order that he was found in contempt of, and that's the one where we
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see the SWAT style takedown on a Calgary busy city street.
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That was a court order that Alberta Health Services got in secret, ex parte, as they say.
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They went without notifying Pastor Art's lawyer, whom they know, Sarah Miller from JSS Barristers.
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They went and got a court order that restrained illegal public gatherings.
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And in Alberta at the time, that meant church services and protests against the lockdown.
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Pastor Art spent three days in jail, and that's not enough for this government.
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Over the course of the last two days, I listened to lawyers for Alberta Health Services make
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the case for imprisoning Pastor Art for 21 more days.
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So 24 in total, his brother David for 10 more days, so 13 days in total.
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They also want him to pay court costs to the government, and they've inflated those at
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And just out of curiosity, why would they, what's their excuse for just doubling plus the
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Was there any reason just as, just as a rub it in your face kind of thing?
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Sarah Miller said, you can't ask for those sorts of things because we have not inconvenienced
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We haven't artificially delayed anything that's happening here.
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It seems as though Alberta Health Services bureaucrats are slightly annoyed that Sarah examined
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them at least five times to make them show their work and explain themselves.
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They are also looking at fines and they want 21 days of his life taken from him.
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You know, I think I told you before that when I was a baby lawyer in Edmonton, one of the
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things we did as student lawyers was we sat through what was called docket court and we
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would just be the last ones to stand and speak.
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So we would spend all day in court, which was an education.
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And it was there that I saw, because I had never believed it possible if I had not seen
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it, that someone who sexually assaulted a minor had a 30 day sentence.
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And I'm thinking that Arthur Pawlowski, a pastor, for having his church open for just
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over an hour in defiance of an order, is going to be put in jail for three plus 21.
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And the three was before he was even charged or convicted.
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So that's basically the exact same amount of time as this convicted rapist that I saw
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my first day attending criminal court as a student at law.
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Now, I saw following your Twitter feed, and I'd like to encourage everyone to go through
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You said that the judge, Justice Adam Germain, who used to be a liberal MLA, if I recall,
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he said something about how Arthur is so rich that money's no deterrent to him, implying
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that he has to go to prison, can't just pay a fine.
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I wouldn't say he's destitute, but he's definitely low income.
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He spends his time and effort feeding the hungry.
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Can you explain this comment by Justice Germain, at least as you heard it?
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So it actually stems from an argument that the lawyer for Alberta Health Services was
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making to justify imprisoning Pastor Art, because Sarah Miller says there are a whole
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host of things that we should be looking at before we get to jail.
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And the lawyer for Alberta Health Services said something akin to, well, he's got the
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Implying that Pastor Art has supporters who would help him out if the court issued a fine.
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And then today, Justice Adam Germain, in discussing that concept with the lawyers, he said, you know,
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when we are examining the financial penalties that people have to pay, a billionaire would
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have to pay something a lot higher than an indigent man.
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And he said, we're looking at something closer to a billionaire here.
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So basically punishing Pastor Art because he has people out there who love him, believe
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The court would go easier on him if he were alone in this fight.
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Instead, they're punishing him because the people of Alberta, but really the people around
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the world can't believe what they're seeing and want to help.
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I look forward to seeing the transcript of the exact words in the exact context.
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That almost strikes me as something that could lead to an appeal of the whole case.
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For a judge to say you're closer to a billionaire than to a poor man, that is simply factually
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Listen, I wasn't listening to the whole case like you are, but I highly doubt any evidence
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But I think that that shows the heart and the mind of this judge.
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I think that they're going to throw him in jail again.
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Sarah Miller, as you have observed with your own eyes, is doing an excellent job.
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And she has had at different points in this journey up to three other lawyers helping her.
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And there's an implication there that the crowdfunding is going to Arthur Pawlowski.
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And let me just clarify, and you know this, but I want to say this to our viewers.
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No people who ask for our help at fightthefines.com get any money.
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It's called fight the fines, not pay the fines.
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We don't give any, we have not given one penny to Arthur Pawlowski.
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What we have done is made sure he's got the best lawyer that we could find.
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And what this judge is saying, if I'm interpreting it correctly, is that he should have had a crappy
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lawyer, a legal aid lawyer, maybe a student like I was 20 years ago.
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He should have had a crappy lawyer, and then I wouldn't throw him in jail.
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But because he has an excellent lawyer, I'm going to put him in jail.
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And for the judge to say that, I find deeply disturbing.
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I believe it's October 13th is when we'll get our decision.
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Later on this week, we have the same judge, Adam Germain, hearing the Chris Scott whistle
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And so he's reserving his decision on the sanctions for everybody until he hears that,
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But I mean, the implication for Chris Scott is that he will probably be facing much of
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the same prejudice from Alberta Health Services lawyers.
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The flip side of this is that prison is only for poor people, you know, that we have paupers
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And, you know, I saw it following your Twitter comments that there is an outbreak of COVID-19
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So that's the definition of an outbreak in an institution.
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So there was never a single case that we know of, let alone an outbreak, in Pastor Arthur
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But the government, in the, quote, name of health, is going to take him and take him to
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And I'm told that the response from the Alberta government lawyers is, well, get vaccinated
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That's the same thing they did, though, to the pastor at Grace Life Church when they
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They took a healthy man out of a healthy church and a healthy family and stuck him into a
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facility where they have released upwards of 400 prisoners, medium and low-risk offenders.
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And, you know, the pastor there, completely non-violent, all he did was open his church.
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They took him and stuffed him into a facility that had multiple outbreaks.
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And yet, they're doing it all in the name of public health and protecting the public health
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You know, I'm thinking of that Pastor James Coates from Grace Life, who you're referring
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Always makes a little bit of fun of me because when I see him, I like it so much.
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And his fellow pastor in Calgary, Tim Stephens, I think is his name, is cut from the similar
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And Pastor James Coates got 30 plus days in prison.
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So it's not that it's not that Arthur Pavlovsky is stubborn, though he is.
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It's that the government has a deep hatred for those who would defy its official religion
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of lockdownism and the high priestess of lockdownism in Alberta, a chief health officer named Dina
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And if you dare to follow another pastor besides Priestess Hinshaw, you will be put to prison,
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That issue came up in court today when they cited the case of Pastor Henry Hildebrandt in
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And I believe it's Trinity Bible Chapel in Waterloo, where they received enormous fines,
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but they could not get those men to close their churches.
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And that was one of the reasons Alberta Health Services said, well, this is why prison is
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We couldn't get them to bow before the golden calf of government.
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You know, it really is like sometimes you see a Shakespeare play redone in a modern setting,
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This is like the tale of the early Christians and Rome.
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It's just like seeing an old Shakespeare, you know, Romeo and Juliet redone in like a
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It's like watching the tale of the early Christians and their persecution redone in a postmodern,
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rotting, luxurious, capitalist, once liberal democracy that's under a form of martial law
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Well, listen, Sheila, I'm really glad you're on the case.
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We are doing everything that is possible to do to help him.
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I truly believe that Sarah Miller, I've met her, spoken to her many times, emailed with
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And just to point out the caliber of lawyer Sarah Miller is, she's already gotten four
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of Archer's tickets thrown out of court, the tickets he received for feeding the homeless.
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And she mentioned in court, maybe this is the government's way of getting him for that
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I want to say one last thing, and we've gone on quite some time, but I'm familiar with
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I remember even doing a story about him back at Sun News Network almost 10 years ago.
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But he once said to me that he was taken to court by the Calgary police or by law officers
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He probably means 10 times, and it just felt like 100.
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The Court of Appeal and other courts, he has been to court 100 times.
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They have a hatred for him that is biblical in its relentlessness.
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And I am absolutely sure that their lust to imprison him for 21 days comes from 10 years
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He comes from Poland, and Poland resisted the Nazis.
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If you go back to 1683, it was the Poles who smashed the siege of Vienna.
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And if Tyler Shandro and the government of Alberta and this liberal justice, Adam Germain,
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And I mention pole because they have centuries of resistance and martyrdom.
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And you might say, martyrdom, that's a bit much.
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And I say again, it's like those Shakespeare redos, you know, in a modern setting.
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Well, I heard Pastor Art say today that they are not going to break him.
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In his statement to the court, which he hasn't really spoken to the court before.
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He said, I will not apologize for opening my church, feeding the helpless and the homeless.
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And he said that he would serve time in jail with Jason Kenney, who should be prosecuted for breaking his own rules up there in the Sky Palace.
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And if people want to support Pastor Art and his ballooning legal fees, they can go to saveartur.com.
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And you can see my live tweets there in case we missed something here because there's a lot happening there.
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But you can also see Pastor Art's statement to the court because he sent us a copy of that to publish after he got out of court because it's so moving and so compelling.
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And it lays out the case from the Bible to his time in Poland to his time in Alberta, why he's doing exactly what he's doing.
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I'm reminded of the Polish Pope, Carol Waitila, also known as Pope John Paul II.
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St. John Paul II, when he landed in Warsaw to conduct a mass of over a million Poles under Soviet domination.
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I don't know them in Polish, but I know them in English.
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You're supposed to be afraid of your own family.
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You're afraid of your own children, afraid of teachers, afraid of students, students afraid of teachers, customers of shopkeepers, shopkeepers, other customers.
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And we're all supposed to be afraid of the government.
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I think this is Wascana Creek here in Regina, the capital city of Saskatchewan, where we are on location.
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Because we've got a great event with Dr. Patrick Moore for the 1,500 people who have registered for tonight.
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And we hope to have more events again to you at home.