Rebel News Podcast - November 13, 2021


EZRA LEVANT | Air Canada’s union blinks — and agrees to file a grievance against the company’s vaccine mandates!


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

162.45909

Word Count

5,841

Sentence Count

206

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

A flight attendant who has already recovered and has natural immunity was about to be fired, and we hired top-notch lawyers for her. And wouldn t you know it, last night we had a little flicker of success.


Transcript

00:00:00.060 Hello, my Rebels. I have good news for you. When was the last time I said that?
00:00:03.960 It's got to be almost two years ago now, but we have a bit of good news.
00:00:07.720 I don't want to say it's bigger than it is, but one of the cases we've taken
00:00:11.580 at the FightVaccinePassports.com battle station
00:00:15.500 is against Air Canada and their forced vaccine
00:00:19.940 policy. We took the case of a flight attendant who
00:00:23.700 has already recovered and has natural immunity, and she was about to be fired.
00:00:27.780 Well, we hired Top Gun lawyers for her, and wouldn't you know it,
00:00:31.480 last night we had a little flicker of success. I'll tell you all about it.
00:00:37.040 That's ahead. But while I've got you here,
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00:00:51.720 for this flight attendant. So I really think it adds value, plus the $8 a month
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00:01:07.840 All right, here's today's show. Some good news for a change.
00:01:14.960 You're listening to a Rebel News podcast.
00:01:17.100 Tonight, Air Canada's union blinks and agrees to file a grievance
00:01:29.940 against the company's vaccine mandate. It's November 12th,
00:01:34.200 and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:35.900 I've got some encouraging news, happy news. It's been a while since I've been able to say that.
00:02:01.820 One of our crowdfunded lawsuits against vaccine mandates has had some success.
00:02:08.160 We're not out of the woods yet, but it's a breakthrough. Here's the story.
00:02:11.640 Two months ago, we took the case of an Air Canada flight attendant
00:02:15.800 who was being forced to get the vaccine,
00:02:18.680 even though she already had caught COVID and recovered from it fully,
00:02:24.020 and so she had natural immunity.
00:02:25.600 And she had a doctor's note confirming that her natural immunity
00:02:30.220 was equivalent to taking a vaccine.
00:02:33.580 In fact, just yesterday, Anthony Fauci's CDC, the Centers for Disease Control,
00:02:39.500 they confirmed for the first time that they are unaware of a single case
00:02:44.360 where a person with natural immunity like this
00:02:47.080 had ever transmitted the virus to another person,
00:02:49.920 which is something that vaccinated people actually can still do.
00:02:54.120 Bill Gates admitted the same just this last week.
00:02:57.540 So it was 2015 that I gave the TED Talk and wrote a number of papers
00:03:02.640 titled, We're Not Ready for the Next Pandemic.
00:03:08.060 And sadly, that was a better forecast of what would happen
00:03:13.420 than anyone would have wished for.
00:03:16.240 You know, the economic damage, the deaths,
00:03:20.740 it's been completely horrific.
00:03:23.440 And I would expect that will lead the R&D budgets
00:03:29.160 to be focused on things we didn't have today.
00:03:32.720 You know, we didn't have vaccines that block transmission.
00:03:35.960 We got vaccines that help you with your health,
00:03:38.480 but they only slightly reduce the transmissions.
00:03:40.720 We need a new way of doing the vaccine.
00:03:43.620 So this Air Canada flight attendant was being forced by Air Canada
00:03:48.740 to get the jab despite this, despite being naturally immune.
00:03:53.700 They were going to fire her if she didn't.
00:03:56.260 So we wanted to help her.
00:03:58.980 But the thing is, most Air Canada workers are part of a union.
00:04:03.940 And the whole idea of collective bargaining, as it's called,
00:04:07.900 is that any quarrel you have with the company
00:04:10.780 has to be done through the union.
00:04:12.700 In this case, the union representing this Air Canada flight attendant
00:04:17.020 was CUPE, which stands for the Canadian Union of Public Employees.
00:04:21.500 And CUPE just refused.
00:04:23.680 They refused to help this flight attendant,
00:04:26.520 who is their own union member.
00:04:28.040 I can't think of anything more important for a union to do
00:04:31.060 than to protect its members from the company bosses
00:04:35.060 just deciding one day to force them to undergo a medical procedure,
00:04:40.000 an injection against their will.
00:04:41.780 That wasn't part of the collective agreement.
00:04:44.160 That wasn't part of the contract.
00:04:46.660 Why would the union simply roll over and allow the corporation
00:04:50.420 to change its contract unilaterally?
00:04:52.860 Whose side are they on?
00:04:55.100 Isn't protecting the health, privacy, and bodily integrity of its members
00:05:00.160 more important than any other issues they fight over?
00:05:03.560 Even more important than wages, really.
00:05:06.740 But the union literally would not.
00:05:09.000 It's like this one union leader here said
00:05:11.400 when he raised the same issue about the GM union selling out its members.
00:05:17.000 So a long time ago, a union rep said something to me that was very profound.
00:05:21.080 He said, if the union and the company are saying the same thing,
00:05:24.980 one of them is not necessary.
00:05:26.640 Yeah, he's exactly right.
00:05:28.480 So what can you do when you have a company union,
00:05:31.600 a yellow union that's actually taking the side of the bosses?
00:05:36.720 Well, you sue the union to get them to do their job.
00:05:42.160 You pay them union dues.
00:05:43.760 They represent you.
00:05:45.820 Make them do so.
00:05:47.220 So we helped this Air Canada flight attendant,
00:05:50.200 and we crowdfunded three excellent lawyers at two law firms
00:05:55.400 to go to battle against the union
00:05:58.520 to compel them to file a grievance on her behalf.
00:06:02.780 You can see a copy of some of the documents,
00:06:06.740 including the very first letter we filed,
00:06:08.320 on a special website we set up for this case called aircanadalawsuit.com.
00:06:14.480 Read the first letter, the opening salvo.
00:06:16.440 It's only five pages, and it's in plain English,
00:06:19.280 although it does refer to some legal technicalities.
00:06:22.700 Let me read a bit of it to you.
00:06:24.000 I found it very bracing to hear the case made for this flight attendant.
00:06:29.920 This is what the union should have been saying from the beginning,
00:06:33.420 but they refused.
00:06:34.160 Here's an excerpt from the letter from the lawyer.
00:06:36.140 It is surprising that CUPE would permit such an intrusion at all,
00:06:41.360 but specifically through the Air Canada press release policy.
00:06:45.580 Given the apparent abdication,
00:06:48.420 there may also be issues of bad faith representation
00:06:51.560 by cooperating with Air Canada in this conduct.
00:06:55.500 Whatever the reason CUPE has facilitated Air Canada's efforts
00:06:59.080 to violate members' health, safety, privacy, and employment rights,
00:07:02.900 this is antithetical to CUPE's statutorily mandated role
00:07:08.280 under the Canadian Labor Code.
00:07:11.060 Exactly.
00:07:11.680 Let me read just one more passage from this demand letter.
00:07:15.220 I really recommend you read the whole thing.
00:07:18.060 It's only five pages long.
00:07:19.960 Go to aircanadalawsuit.com,
00:07:21.860 especially if you're an Air Canada employee or know someone who is.
00:07:25.480 You've got to know your rights.
00:07:27.100 Let me read a little more from this first letter.
00:07:28.460 CUPE's apparent breach of the duty
00:07:33.080 is further illustrated by the jurisprudence
00:07:35.700 deciding the extent of this legal requirement.
00:07:39.560 The requirement to investigate grievable matters
00:07:42.760 and reasonably pursue them
00:07:44.880 is a key element of CUPE's duty.
00:07:47.700 Given that a bargaining union member
00:07:49.720 does not have an absolute right
00:07:51.740 to have a grievance referred to arbitration,
00:07:54.420 CUPE must show that,
00:07:56.060 one, CUPE did not merely conduct
00:07:59.320 a perfunctory or cursory review of the matter.
00:08:02.980 The review must be thorough.
00:08:05.180 Two, CUPE gathered sufficient information
00:08:08.260 to arrive at a sound decision.
00:08:10.600 Three, CUPE demonstrates
00:08:12.560 that there are no personality conflicts,
00:08:15.460 bad relations, or other matters
00:08:17.380 that could affect the soundness of its decision.
00:08:20.320 My point is,
00:08:22.540 the letter ferociously fought for the workers' rights,
00:08:27.160 something the union was supposed to do.
00:08:29.820 Isn't it funny?
00:08:31.080 You know, people call me a right-wing guy,
00:08:33.340 and I guess in many ways I am,
00:08:35.420 and yet here we are crowdfunding
00:08:37.320 for union members
00:08:39.360 to get a stronger union
00:08:41.300 to take the side of the working people
00:08:43.900 against the big monopoly corporations.
00:08:46.120 And where are the so-called leftists
00:08:48.620 who say they care about working people,
00:08:51.040 about personal privacy,
00:08:52.780 about people who always say,
00:08:54.400 my body, my choice.
00:08:55.640 Where are they now?
00:08:56.860 It's an upside-down world,
00:08:58.440 but I know who I stand with.
00:08:59.840 I stand with this flight attendant.
00:09:02.400 So you can see that five-page letter
00:09:04.140 that we sent to the union on September 14th,
00:09:07.720 and they went back and forth with the law firms.
00:09:10.540 They tried to brush it off.
00:09:12.020 They tried to rag the puck,
00:09:13.640 you know, slow walk this whole thing,
00:09:15.060 so that many more workers
00:09:16.620 would just collapse under pressure.
00:09:18.780 And I think that's part of the strategy here
00:09:20.720 by the other side.
00:09:21.960 Ratchet up the pressure, delay,
00:09:23.640 so people just collapse and panic
00:09:25.780 and just give up and give in.
00:09:27.800 But the lawyers went back and forth,
00:09:29.900 and then the lawyers that we crowdfunded
00:09:33.040 for this flight attendant
00:09:33.880 did something that they promised they would do.
00:09:38.160 They took the CUPE union
00:09:40.200 to the Industrial Relations Board.
00:09:42.780 They literally sued the union bosses
00:09:46.900 on behalf of the union members
00:09:49.640 for refusing to represent this flight attendant.
00:09:54.000 And then last night,
00:09:55.560 the incredible thing happened.
00:09:56.800 The union blinked.
00:09:58.460 They agreed.
00:10:01.140 They agreed to take the grievance
00:10:03.120 on behalf of this Air Canada flight attendant.
00:10:06.580 For months, CUPE was like Unifor,
00:10:09.240 a yellow union company union
00:10:11.460 absolutely in bed with the bosses,
00:10:13.740 absolutely ignoring the working people.
00:10:17.400 And what are you going to do about it,
00:10:19.040 you little worker?
00:10:20.520 What are you going to do?
00:10:21.560 Well, good point.
00:10:22.880 Because what Air Canada worker on her own
00:10:25.380 could possibly spend tens of thousands of dollars
00:10:28.060 to hire three top gun lawyers
00:10:30.200 to fight back for her?
00:10:32.000 Well, this flight attendant
00:10:33.560 obviously didn't have the money,
00:10:35.240 but you did.
00:10:36.400 You, our viewers did.
00:10:37.760 You got her the lawyer she needed
00:10:39.200 and CUPE bloody well blinked.
00:10:43.160 If you go to aircandlelawsuit.com,
00:10:45.160 you can see the 344 page filing
00:10:49.640 that our crack lawyers filed
00:10:52.020 against the union
00:10:52.940 at the Industrial Relations Board
00:10:54.260 on behalf of this flight attendant.
00:10:55.820 Again, you'll see the personal name
00:10:57.420 and other personal details
00:10:58.420 of the flight attendant blacked out
00:11:00.440 to protect her privacy.
00:11:02.640 But that's what did it.
00:11:06.120 Now, there's still risks here, first of all,
00:11:07.960 and I'm a bit nervous.
00:11:09.660 So I'm thinking, okay, boy,
00:11:11.280 they sure fought hard against this.
00:11:14.260 Maybe they're doing it grudgingly.
00:11:16.160 Maybe they're just phoning it in.
00:11:18.520 Like a boxing match
00:11:19.860 where one of the fighters throws the fight.
00:11:22.960 Maybe, could be.
00:11:25.280 And then, of course,
00:11:26.140 grieving a new company rule
00:11:28.080 doesn't necessarily mean
00:11:29.160 you're going to beat it.
00:11:30.440 Even if CUPE does fight hard
00:11:33.160 and fight smart
00:11:34.000 and shows loyalty
00:11:35.540 to its own members for a change,
00:11:37.720 maybe the grievance won't be successful.
00:11:39.660 Maybe it won't be upheld.
00:11:42.120 But what we have here, I believe,
00:11:43.940 is an actual victory.
00:11:46.060 And it happened because of the lawyers,
00:11:48.640 and it happened
00:11:49.240 because of a courageous flight attendant.
00:11:52.560 But the missing piece was you.
00:11:54.620 You paid for the legal work,
00:11:57.820 and you can see that work,
00:11:59.020 or at least some of it,
00:11:59.900 at aircanadalawsuit.com.
00:12:02.020 Note that we haven't put
00:12:02.940 all of the legal documents up there,
00:12:04.800 but some key ones.
00:12:05.860 So thank you.
00:12:07.620 To those of you who crowdfunded this,
00:12:09.920 we have a bunch of other cases underway
00:12:13.000 in different stages in the courts
00:12:15.540 and direct with companies.
00:12:17.780 We've had some luck with other companies so far,
00:12:20.280 including CN Rail.
00:12:21.620 You can see most of the cases we're fighting
00:12:24.440 at the website fightvaccinepassports.com.
00:12:28.400 From hockey leagues
00:12:29.820 to the province of British Columbia,
00:12:31.580 we're suing them over the vaccine passport.
00:12:33.640 If you haven't had a chance to chip in yet,
00:12:35.820 please do.
00:12:36.900 Last night's big win at Air Canada
00:12:39.280 gives me some hope.
00:12:41.260 And let me say the message
00:12:43.100 to any other Air Canada staff out there
00:12:46.220 who are concerned about this issue.
00:12:48.280 Go to aircanadalawsuit.com.
00:12:51.840 Read the legal materials for yourself.
00:12:53.900 And if you are in a similar position,
00:12:56.020 there's a form there.
00:12:57.420 Fill out the form.
00:12:58.940 Give us your name.
00:12:59.720 We'll take a look at your case
00:13:00.800 and we'll help you if we can.
00:13:02.940 And I have an idea
00:13:03.860 where we'll hold an Air Canada
00:13:05.600 Zoom town hall meeting
00:13:08.740 where anyone at Air Canada
00:13:10.860 who's worried can join
00:13:12.540 and we'll have speakers.
00:13:13.760 We'll have the lawyers
00:13:14.700 who represented this flight attendant.
00:13:17.020 They'll come on and explain the case
00:13:19.000 and answer questions.
00:13:20.880 And then we'll have some other keynote speakers
00:13:22.720 and we'll give help to people
00:13:25.420 at Air Canada
00:13:27.040 who want to fight back.
00:13:28.900 But the battle is far from over,
00:13:31.660 but it's definitely begun.
00:13:34.900 Stay with me.
00:13:36.320 After the break,
00:13:37.420 we'll talk to Matthew McDonald,
00:13:39.540 one of the key labor lawyers
00:13:41.220 responsible for last night's win.
00:13:47.020 Well, I have to tell you,
00:13:57.260 it's few and far between
00:13:58.880 that we get pieces of good news these days.
00:14:01.060 But when I heard that last night
00:14:03.400 the union blinked,
00:14:05.040 at least in the case of this flight attendant,
00:14:06.980 I thought there's a flicker of hope.
00:14:09.180 And joining us now via Skype from Calgary,
00:14:11.220 the labor lawyer who crafted the complaint,
00:14:16.360 Matthew McDonald, who joins us now.
00:14:18.500 By Skype, Matthew McDonald,
00:14:19.440 first of all, welcome to the show
00:14:20.680 and congratulations.
00:14:22.280 I've been following this
00:14:23.560 out of the corner of my eye
00:14:24.600 for two months now.
00:14:27.480 I'm delighted with the legal work itself,
00:14:30.560 but you had a little bit of success yesterday.
00:14:32.620 Put it in your own words
00:14:34.280 because I don't want to overstate it,
00:14:35.900 but I don't want to understate it.
00:14:37.140 What happened yesterday that changed things?
00:14:41.960 Well, we got word that some of the members
00:14:44.300 that have been affected by this policy
00:14:46.180 and are facing discipline,
00:14:47.800 the union is actually going to represent them
00:14:50.440 and grieve the discipline
00:14:52.000 that's being brought against them.
00:14:54.380 So we actually have the union,
00:14:55.620 we push the union to do what we think
00:14:57.420 it should have done all along,
00:14:58.640 which is represent its members.
00:15:01.320 Well, I mean, that sort of seems
00:15:03.300 like their mission statement.
00:15:04.820 I saw a Unifor shop steward who was fired
00:15:08.440 who said if the union and the company
00:15:10.600 are saying the same thing,
00:15:12.200 one of them isn't needed.
00:15:13.200 I mean, of all the things
00:15:14.320 a union should be doing,
00:15:16.100 this is the crisis.
00:15:17.540 You mentioned multiple members.
00:15:20.160 Sorry, our flight vaccine passports case
00:15:22.240 had one client, a flight attendant,
00:15:24.860 who were not saying her name
00:15:26.240 for privacy reasons,
00:15:27.460 but you just said multiple staff.
00:15:30.060 Are there other flight attendants
00:15:31.760 or gate agents who are now
00:15:35.220 being helped by the union?
00:15:38.080 We have reason to believe
00:15:39.840 from people that we're working with
00:15:41.460 who have been approaching us
00:15:44.000 about our complaint as well
00:15:45.080 as wanting to work together
00:15:46.000 that there seems to be other members
00:15:48.700 that are getting representation.
00:15:50.160 So the work has helped
00:15:51.640 more than just one person, we think.
00:15:53.420 Well, that's excellent.
00:15:54.820 Can I ask you a question?
00:15:55.860 If there are other Air Canada employees
00:15:59.560 who are part of CUPE,
00:16:03.560 would they, do you think
00:16:04.900 this would naturally come to their aid
00:16:06.920 or should they contact us
00:16:09.560 and be connected with you?
00:16:13.140 They should talk to their union first
00:16:16.400 and make the request there.
00:16:18.320 The union's making it very clear
00:16:19.460 they don't want me involved.
00:16:21.380 Now, they're certainly asserting
00:16:23.000 their rights and saying
00:16:24.520 that they will deal with
00:16:25.540 the members affected
00:16:26.620 and that's what they do.
00:16:30.300 So they should talk to the union
00:16:31.560 and they can contact us through you
00:16:33.680 and I'm sure we can give them some help
00:16:35.720 but they should be making the request
00:16:37.580 to the union and just say
00:16:38.620 that they are facing discipline
00:16:40.720 and termination because of this policy
00:16:42.440 and their reasons why
00:16:43.460 and they are asking for representation
00:16:45.300 and I think this precedent should help them.
00:16:47.560 Well, I'm very pleased
00:16:48.540 and I guess that's what I was asking about.
00:16:51.220 Is this just their attempt
00:16:53.120 to get you off their back?
00:16:55.100 Because I've read some of the back and forth
00:16:57.520 between you
00:16:58.520 and I've read the 344 page complaint
00:17:00.920 and I can imagine they say
00:17:02.740 just make this guy go away
00:17:04.580 but we don't just want to help one person.
00:17:07.140 Part of the strategy behind
00:17:08.220 fightvaccinepassports.com
00:17:10.520 is to take on institutional employers
00:17:13.960 or schools
00:17:14.780 so that one legal success
00:17:17.480 can actually help dozens
00:17:18.680 or even hundreds of people.
00:17:19.900 So I guess that's important to me.
00:17:22.160 Do you think this is broader
00:17:23.560 than just the one client?
00:17:25.980 I mean, you mentioned that there is
00:17:27.020 but do you think
00:17:27.440 this will be a policy across CUPE?
00:17:31.700 I think that CUPE is quite concerned
00:17:35.840 about the fact
00:17:36.620 the issues that we raised in that letter.
00:17:38.240 I think they're concerned
00:17:39.700 that they may be being vulnerable
00:17:42.580 to not meeting what's called
00:17:43.900 their duty of fair representation.
00:17:45.920 And so I think that
00:17:46.840 they are definitely going to be more proactive
00:17:48.960 in representing members
00:17:51.000 who are facing individual grievance.
00:17:52.820 It was their whole reason
00:17:53.740 for not doing anything
00:17:55.340 on the policy
00:17:56.900 was they said,
00:17:57.780 well, we'll deal with it
00:17:58.440 on individual cases as they come
00:17:59.940 and now they have to do that.
00:18:01.860 We're making them
00:18:02.640 put their money where their mouth is.
00:18:04.260 Hmm.
00:18:06.340 I just wonder
00:18:07.660 and don't give away any confidences
00:18:09.320 but have you spoken
00:18:10.460 with the flight attendant in question?
00:18:12.580 What's her reaction?
00:18:13.500 Is she relieved?
00:18:14.300 Is she happy?
00:18:15.380 I mean, we've kept it
00:18:16.700 sort of at arm's length
00:18:17.520 for privacy
00:18:18.440 and solicitor-client reasons.
00:18:20.860 Have you talked to the client?
00:18:23.000 I have.
00:18:23.820 And she's happy.
00:18:25.060 She's cautious.
00:18:27.040 She's been in the union environment
00:18:28.580 so she knows
00:18:30.280 what dynamics are at play
00:18:32.260 and I think she is
00:18:33.000 concerned about reprisals
00:18:35.600 and that's why she's grateful
00:18:37.040 for the work that's being done here
00:18:39.320 to protect her rights.
00:18:40.920 So I'd say she's cautiously hopeful.
00:18:43.600 I got a question for you
00:18:45.120 and this just shows
00:18:45.880 that these days
00:18:46.540 I'm very skeptical.
00:18:47.640 I'm pessimistic.
00:18:49.100 You know,
00:18:49.320 you can call me paranoid
00:18:50.360 a little bit, Matthew
00:18:51.240 but I think these times
00:18:52.540 can maybe justify it.
00:18:56.340 Is the union really grieving this
00:18:58.300 with their whole heart
00:18:59.380 or are they just going
00:19:00.580 through the motions
00:19:01.320 because you had to really
00:19:03.620 twist their arm
00:19:04.280 for two full months
00:19:05.300 before they said,
00:19:06.760 all right, fine,
00:19:07.240 we'll help her.
00:19:07.720 and you just said
00:19:09.560 they don't want you involved.
00:19:11.200 All right,
00:19:11.640 that makes me nervous.
00:19:14.180 What do you think
00:19:15.080 about the prospect
00:19:16.380 and tell me
00:19:16.960 if I'm just too paranoid
00:19:18.720 but that they're going
00:19:19.980 through the motions
00:19:20.580 of a grievance
00:19:21.220 but they're just phoning it in
00:19:22.560 and that they don't actually
00:19:23.860 want to succeed.
00:19:25.940 They don't actually want
00:19:26.820 to stop Air Canada's
00:19:28.740 vax policy.
00:19:29.440 They haven't wanted
00:19:30.100 to stop it so far
00:19:31.160 and they're just doing this
00:19:32.700 to get you off their back.
00:19:33.720 That's obviously a concern
00:19:37.000 and I think that
00:19:38.040 that's a founded concern
00:19:39.080 and we'll be monitoring
00:19:40.520 how they deal
00:19:42.520 with the complaints
00:19:43.280 and whether they
00:19:44.040 put their heart into it
00:19:45.160 and be ready to make
00:19:46.360 another complaint
00:19:46.960 to the labor board
00:19:47.740 to keep their feet
00:19:48.520 to the fire if they don't.
00:19:49.900 Well, I'm glad to hear that.
00:19:51.260 Now, I know there's
00:19:52.160 a different set of unions
00:19:53.680 for different types of workers
00:19:55.440 at Air Canada.
00:19:57.240 I understand the pilots
00:19:58.060 have their own union
00:19:59.480 and there's, frankly,
00:20:01.080 I was a little surprised
00:20:01.840 to hear that CUPE
00:20:02.600 was the union
00:20:04.140 for Air Canada
00:20:04.800 but maybe that dates back
00:20:05.980 to when Air Canada
00:20:06.940 was a state airline.
00:20:09.000 Do you know offhand
00:20:10.220 if other unions
00:20:11.840 have taken
00:20:13.780 a different approach?
00:20:15.480 For example,
00:20:16.060 let's say there was
00:20:16.720 a pilot
00:20:17.280 who was in the same position
00:20:19.160 as this flight attendant.
00:20:21.180 Do they have any help
00:20:22.440 from their union
00:20:23.600 or do you think
00:20:24.560 we should replicate
00:20:26.080 what we're doing
00:20:26.740 for this flight attendant
00:20:27.620 for the pilots too?
00:20:28.720 Well, there's certainly
00:20:32.600 a debate in the union world
00:20:34.040 right now
00:20:34.620 about this issue
00:20:35.840 and there are some unions
00:20:37.200 you see in the complaint
00:20:38.480 that we cited
00:20:39.340 the TTC in Toronto
00:20:40.860 which are taking on
00:20:42.080 these issues
00:20:42.460 very aggressively
00:20:42.980 and there are others
00:20:43.720 that seem to be
00:20:46.900 aligning with their
00:20:47.700 political views
00:20:48.380 with Justin Trudeau.
00:20:49.980 And so some unions
00:20:52.260 are taking this seriously
00:20:53.500 and others are putting their,
00:20:54.780 it seems to be
00:20:55.340 that they're putting
00:20:55.720 their political views
00:20:56.480 ahead of other duties
00:20:57.620 that they have
00:20:58.240 and I think
00:20:59.800 this is going to be
00:21:02.060 a warning shot
00:21:02.620 to all of them
00:21:03.080 that they need to
00:21:04.060 focus on
00:21:05.280 what their
00:21:06.020 legislative duty is
00:21:07.540 under the law
00:21:08.040 which is to represent
00:21:08.880 their members fairly
00:21:10.080 and that
00:21:11.120 and if they don't do that
00:21:13.020 they're going to face
00:21:13.600 consequences before the board
00:21:14.820 because of people like
00:21:15.680 you and who are
00:21:17.560 defending their members
00:21:18.340 when they aren't
00:21:19.400 or if they aren't.
00:21:21.260 I want to be fair
00:21:22.280 to Air Canada
00:21:23.040 that they're doing this
00:21:25.040 I think because
00:21:25.920 they're being pressured
00:21:26.660 into it by the government
00:21:27.560 in fact
00:21:27.980 Trudeau has been
00:21:29.400 made it very clear
00:21:30.540 that he doesn't even
00:21:31.520 want to let anyone
00:21:32.100 fly on a plane
00:21:33.100 who's not vaxxed
00:21:34.180 let alone work on a plane
00:21:35.660 so part of me
00:21:37.520 sympathizes with
00:21:38.500 Air Canada
00:21:39.020 that they're caught
00:21:39.620 in the middle here
00:21:40.400 if these cases
00:21:44.180 are grieved
00:21:45.240 by the union
00:21:46.280 against Air Canada
00:21:47.460 what happens there?
00:21:49.680 What happens if
00:21:50.520 you know
00:21:51.980 to Air Canada
00:21:52.900 because they got
00:21:53.620 their back up
00:21:54.140 against the wall
00:21:54.820 with Trudeau
00:21:55.600 and they were looking
00:21:56.860 to take it out
00:21:57.480 on their members
00:21:58.120 but now thankfully
00:21:59.700 CUPE's going to grieve
00:22:00.720 on behalf of the
00:22:01.340 flight attendants
00:22:02.020 this could take some time
00:22:03.780 I don't know how long
00:22:04.600 a grievance like this
00:22:05.480 would take
00:22:06.060 but it may go past
00:22:07.560 Trudeau's deadline
00:22:08.700 it may
00:22:09.200 like I wonder
00:22:10.060 if Air Canada
00:22:10.740 itself has a viewpoint
00:22:11.780 on this
00:22:12.580 maybe they don't like
00:22:13.840 being caught in the middle
00:22:14.700 I know a bunch of
00:22:15.400 US airlines
00:22:16.260 got really between
00:22:18.000 themselves
00:22:18.500 and their own
00:22:19.840 you know
00:22:20.840 flight attendants
00:22:21.960 what do you think
00:22:23.160 is going to happen
00:22:23.720 or is that
00:22:24.260 just beyond your
00:22:25.060 I guess
00:22:25.860 as anyone's guess
00:22:26.540 maybe
00:22:26.940 well Air Canada
00:22:28.500 has
00:22:29.060 assigned this
00:22:31.360 complaint
00:22:32.020 to a
00:22:32.820 lawyer there
00:22:33.720 so they have
00:22:34.460 they're an interested
00:22:35.080 party
00:22:35.480 and we'll see
00:22:36.760 what they say
00:22:37.420 and
00:22:37.820 I am sympathetic
00:22:39.500 to them
00:22:40.040 in some ways
00:22:41.460 because
00:22:41.880 they are caught
00:22:43.040 in the middle
00:22:43.460 but this underscores
00:22:44.900 why everyone
00:22:45.500 has to fulfill
00:22:46.340 their roles
00:22:47.240 in this process
00:22:47.860 and that's what
00:22:48.440 we're doing
00:22:48.840 is pushing the union
00:22:49.640 to fulfill
00:22:50.580 its role
00:22:51.600 you know
00:22:51.860 I think an important
00:22:52.600 thing that people
00:22:53.200 don't understand
00:22:53.900 is that
00:22:54.820 a member of the union
00:22:56.600 can't go to court
00:22:57.440 their access to justice
00:22:59.640 is completely taken away
00:23:00.780 by operation
00:23:01.340 of the collective agreement
00:23:02.700 and the relevant
00:23:04.420 labor legislation
00:23:05.480 and so if the union
00:23:07.180 doesn't
00:23:08.220 stand up for members
00:23:09.280 it's not just
00:23:10.080 oh well
00:23:10.440 they don't get their support
00:23:11.240 they actually have no
00:23:12.200 members have no other
00:23:13.440 recourse
00:23:14.120 to the courts
00:23:15.720 other than
00:23:16.540 through the union
00:23:17.180 and
00:23:18.040 and that's
00:23:19.420 I think very important
00:23:20.020 that's why
00:23:20.300 it's good
00:23:20.560 what you're doing
00:23:21.060 in terms of Air Canada
00:23:22.100 they're aware of the process
00:23:23.100 they're given notice
00:23:24.860 and I'm sure
00:23:25.620 they're going to
00:23:25.940 take it seriously
00:23:26.600 but I think
00:23:27.120 they're already
00:23:28.080 caught in the middle
00:23:29.120 and probably not
00:23:29.660 wanting to
00:23:30.100 get any more
00:23:31.340 mud on their face
00:23:32.640 you know
00:23:34.240 I got to tell you
00:23:35.020 we're looking at
00:23:37.780 a lot of different
00:23:38.400 unions that are
00:23:39.300 balking at supporting
00:23:40.580 their members
00:23:41.140 and I'm frustrated
00:23:42.520 by that
00:23:43.080 if you would have
00:23:43.620 told me two years
00:23:44.500 ago
00:23:44.840 that a right winger
00:23:46.080 like me
00:23:46.700 would be crowdfunding
00:23:47.860 money
00:23:48.280 to take on
00:23:49.560 the case
00:23:50.000 of union members
00:23:50.920 to get stronger
00:23:52.000 union representation
00:23:53.000 against their bosses
00:23:54.260 at multinational
00:23:56.220 corporations
00:23:56.780 I would have said
00:23:57.360 you're talking to me
00:23:58.620 from an alternative
00:23:59.700 universe
00:24:00.340 but here we are
00:24:01.220 I mean
00:24:01.500 Matthew
00:24:02.060 I don't know
00:24:02.560 your politics
00:24:03.160 you've
00:24:03.920 you know
00:24:04.560 mentioned Trudeau
00:24:05.680 a couple times
00:24:06.620 critically I think
00:24:08.540 so I presume
00:24:09.180 you're not a fan
00:24:10.300 of the liberal party
00:24:10.920 I don't know
00:24:11.440 your politics
00:24:11.980 if you're in labor law
00:24:12.820 maybe you're a man
00:24:13.680 of the left
00:24:14.140 but I find it
00:24:15.520 heartbreaking
00:24:16.180 that people who
00:24:18.220 traditionally have
00:24:18.800 called themselves
00:24:19.260 progressive
00:24:19.800 are not standing up
00:24:21.740 for actual
00:24:22.420 working class people
00:24:23.540 they're siding
00:24:24.880 with big pharma
00:24:25.900 that's weird
00:24:26.700 and ideas
00:24:28.900 of my body
00:24:29.600 my choice
00:24:30.360 personal privacy
00:24:32.060 civil liberties
00:24:32.840 the left used
00:24:34.000 to really own
00:24:34.960 those things
00:24:35.780 and I wish
00:24:36.920 there were more
00:24:37.540 voices on the left
00:24:38.540 you mentioned
00:24:38.960 there's some unions
00:24:39.760 that are doing a good job
00:24:40.660 you mentioned a few
00:24:41.260 of them
00:24:41.400 I appreciate that
00:24:42.200 I don't know
00:24:43.420 if you want to make
00:24:43.900 a comment in general
00:24:44.860 because all I want
00:24:47.080 is strong unions now
00:24:48.740 and those are words
00:24:49.380 I wouldn't say
00:24:50.340 but you've got
00:24:51.360 thousands and thousands
00:24:52.700 of people
00:24:53.180 like you say
00:24:53.740 no access to the courts
00:24:55.080 and the bosses
00:24:57.180 are in league
00:24:58.200 with the companies
00:24:58.920 the union bosses
00:24:59.840 are in league
00:25:00.320 with the companies
00:25:00.980 I can't imagine
00:25:02.100 a more frustrating thing
00:25:03.080 what's happened
00:25:03.580 to our world Matthew
00:25:04.540 well what a world
00:25:06.540 we live in
00:25:07.040 where Israel Levant
00:25:07.800 is a leading labor
00:25:08.840 activist in Canada
00:25:09.720 I wouldn't say
00:25:11.460 I'm the leading
00:25:12.100 labor activist
00:25:12.980 but I feel like
00:25:14.220 I have a role
00:25:15.720 it's not me
00:25:16.580 by the way
00:25:16.980 I want to
00:25:17.440 you're nice to say
00:25:18.520 you're flattering me
00:25:19.300 but let me correct you
00:25:20.300 it's our viewers
00:25:21.880 who are the donors
00:25:22.880 who God bless them
00:25:24.660 have crowdfunded this
00:25:25.820 and I think
00:25:27.080 that they would
00:25:27.560 this flight attendant's
00:25:28.940 name will remain
00:25:29.660 private
00:25:30.260 for the reasons
00:25:31.000 you alluded
00:25:31.640 but I think
00:25:33.680 that our viewers
00:25:34.400 if they had
00:25:35.560 historically called
00:25:36.280 themselves right wing
00:25:37.200 or left wing
00:25:37.880 or big business
00:25:38.800 or farmers
00:25:39.580 or everybody
00:25:40.120 they would think
00:25:41.400 of a flight attendant
00:25:42.500 an exemplary worker
00:25:45.160 who's done nothing wrong
00:25:46.160 who's about to be sacked
00:25:47.260 even though she had
00:25:48.420 natural immunity
00:25:49.580 and recovered
00:25:50.280 and has strong immunity
00:25:52.020 they wouldn't think
00:25:53.380 of her as right wing
00:25:54.160 or left wing
00:25:54.700 they would just think
00:25:55.820 of her as a Canadian
00:25:56.640 who's being treated
00:25:57.280 unfairly
00:25:57.860 and in a way
00:25:59.000 I like this realignment
00:26:00.960 I like getting to know
00:26:02.640 this flight attendant
00:26:04.020 as a human
00:26:04.900 not left wing
00:26:05.880 right wing
00:26:06.280 union member
00:26:06.920 or whatever
00:26:07.860 I think what you're doing
00:26:09.320 Matthew
00:26:09.640 is very important
00:26:10.380 so you gave me
00:26:11.500 a compliment
00:26:11.960 I'll run right back
00:26:13.000 to you
00:26:13.280 and I know
00:26:14.200 that our friend
00:26:14.740 Sarah Miller
00:26:15.400 has been involved
00:26:16.440 with this
00:26:16.700 she's been a great
00:26:17.400 civil libertarian
00:26:18.260 and Robert Hawks
00:26:19.040 as well
00:26:19.400 are you going to
00:26:21.200 keep up this fight
00:26:21.900 will you take other
00:26:22.740 work like this
00:26:23.540 Matthew
00:26:23.920 absolutely
00:26:25.600 I think there are
00:26:26.260 very important issues
00:26:27.240 here at play
00:26:27.840 as I talked about
00:26:28.660 this is really
00:26:29.740 about some
00:26:30.920 fundamental
00:26:32.200 constitutional rights
00:26:34.120 including access
00:26:34.780 to justice
00:26:35.340 and ensuring
00:26:35.860 all Canadians
00:26:36.560 have that
00:26:37.520 and we're going
00:26:37.900 to keep doing
00:26:38.320 that and fighting
00:26:38.760 for them
00:26:39.100 well I want
00:26:40.380 to thank you
00:26:41.000 when I heard
00:26:41.840 last night
00:26:42.620 that the union
00:26:43.800 blinked
00:26:44.320 and that they're
00:26:44.760 going to grieve
00:26:45.240 for this flight
00:26:45.800 attendant
00:26:46.120 I almost couldn't
00:26:47.040 believe it
00:26:47.580 because Air Canada
00:26:48.600 is really one
00:26:49.420 of the large
00:26:49.920 institutions
00:26:50.600 of this country
00:26:51.420 it's a flagship
00:26:52.640 company
00:26:53.300 it's political
00:26:55.040 as we've seen
00:26:55.800 in Quebec lately
00:26:56.640 and if we can
00:26:57.880 fight the battle
00:26:59.280 there then there's
00:27:00.080 hope for everyone
00:27:00.780 Matthew McDonald
00:27:01.940 it's great to talk
00:27:03.060 to you
00:27:03.340 I hope we can
00:27:03.980 catch up with you
00:27:04.780 later on
00:27:05.380 hopefully it'll be
00:27:06.300 for good news
00:27:06.920 again
00:27:07.260 and perhaps we'll
00:27:08.220 have you battling
00:27:08.800 other cases too
00:27:09.820 great looking forward
00:27:11.840 to it
00:27:12.300 all right well
00:27:13.120 great to have you
00:27:13.780 and keep up the
00:27:14.340 great work
00:27:14.740 and please give
00:27:15.420 the regards
00:27:16.280 from all our
00:27:17.060 viewers
00:27:17.500 to the flight
00:27:18.540 attendant
00:27:18.900 whose name
00:27:19.580 we're not
00:27:19.880 mentioning
00:27:20.220 tell her
00:27:20.920 that she may
00:27:22.000 feel alone
00:27:22.740 but she is
00:27:23.500 not alone
00:27:24.160 I will
00:27:25.800 I'll pass that
00:27:26.600 along
00:27:26.800 I know she
00:27:27.140 appreciates it
00:27:27.760 all right
00:27:28.460 there you have it
00:27:28.960 Matthew McDonald
00:27:29.620 labor lawyer
00:27:31.240 in Calgary
00:27:32.040 who had a bit
00:27:33.020 of a victory
00:27:33.500 yesterday
00:27:34.360 stay with us
00:27:36.060 more ahead
00:27:37.000 what a week
00:27:49.680 I tell you
00:27:50.020 ups and downs
00:27:50.780 the news
00:27:51.260 is always bad
00:27:52.200 but actually
00:27:52.960 you know what
00:27:53.620 little flickers
00:27:54.420 little green shoots
00:27:55.520 little flickering
00:27:56.560 candles of hope
00:27:57.440 I tell you
00:27:58.020 of all the
00:27:59.280 institutions
00:27:59.880 in this country
00:28:00.660 Air Canada
00:28:01.220 is so key
00:28:02.020 during this
00:28:03.060 lockdown
00:28:03.500 and pandemic
00:28:04.400 and forced
00:28:04.960 vaccine season
00:28:06.020 I mean the
00:28:06.740 government is
00:28:07.220 using Air Canada
00:28:08.020 as a way
00:28:08.940 to punish
00:28:09.600 people who
00:28:10.600 want to fly
00:28:11.120 if you don't
00:28:11.580 get vaccinated
00:28:12.100 you can't fly
00:28:12.720 so Air Canada
00:28:13.360 it's a real
00:28:13.940 battleground
00:28:14.460 we saw that
00:28:15.100 in Quebec
00:28:15.760 when the new
00:28:16.320 boss of Air Canada
00:28:17.300 admitted he
00:28:17.720 doesn't speak
00:28:18.200 French
00:28:18.500 national crisis
00:28:19.500 my point is
00:28:20.120 Air Canada
00:28:20.840 is a big prize
00:28:21.900 and if we can
00:28:23.600 make Air Canada
00:28:24.840 blink on forced
00:28:26.300 vaccines
00:28:26.840 especially for this
00:28:27.860 flight attendant
00:28:28.420 who has natural
00:28:29.400 immunity
00:28:29.840 she's of no
00:28:30.680 harm to anyone
00:28:31.520 in fact she's
00:28:32.460 safer according
00:28:33.640 to the CDC
00:28:34.320 than people who
00:28:35.020 don't have
00:28:36.140 the disease
00:28:36.780 and just take
00:28:37.360 the vax
00:28:37.920 as the CDC
00:28:39.260 admitted
00:28:39.760 no one who
00:28:40.800 has recovered
00:28:41.280 naturally
00:28:41.780 ever transmit
00:28:42.780 the vax
00:28:43.180 there's ever
00:28:43.480 been a case
00:28:44.040 of that
00:28:44.440 so this
00:28:45.220 flight attendant
00:28:45.800 is actually
00:28:46.140 safer
00:28:46.800 than vaxed
00:28:48.380 people
00:28:48.740 and yet she's
00:28:50.100 about to be
00:28:50.500 fired because
00:28:51.200 she won't get
00:28:51.720 vaxed
00:28:52.340 to have
00:28:53.140 QP blink
00:28:54.040 and agree
00:28:54.700 to grieve
00:28:55.080 this
00:28:55.380 I think
00:28:56.440 that is
00:28:56.940 reason for
00:28:57.580 hope
00:28:57.800 and maybe
00:28:58.660 others will
00:28:59.480 find the
00:28:59.900 courage to
00:29:00.280 come forward
00:29:00.780 I wanted to
00:29:01.600 tell you this
00:29:02.000 big news
00:29:02.460 today I
00:29:02.800 really think
00:29:03.180 it's a great
00:29:03.560 way to end
00:29:03.980 the week
00:29:04.360 listen have
00:29:05.240 a great
00:29:05.500 weekend
00:29:05.960 I'm going
00:29:06.700 to say
00:29:07.240 goodbye to
00:29:07.680 you now
00:29:08.040 and I'm
00:29:08.420 going to
00:29:08.560 leave you
00:29:09.000 with our
00:29:09.780 video of the
00:29:10.400 day
00:29:10.680 until I
00:29:11.400 see you
00:29:11.620 on Monday
00:29:12.020 from all
00:29:12.800 of us here
00:29:13.280 at rebel
00:29:13.580 world headquarters
00:29:14.220 to you at
00:29:14.660 home good
00:29:15.020 night and
00:29:15.960 keep fighting
00:29:16.360 for freedom
00:29:16.920 do you
00:29:17.840 do you think
00:29:18.080 do you think
00:29:18.100 that someone
00:29:18.500 who is
00:29:18.880 unvaccinated
00:29:19.700 should have
00:29:20.340 a tracking
00:29:20.840 device on
00:29:21.500 them
00:29:21.720 I think
00:29:23.160 that is
00:29:23.980 a step
00:29:24.760 too far
00:29:25.580 in compromising
00:29:27.720 personal freedom
00:29:29.580 and liberty
00:29:30.200 this is
00:29:34.900 Lewis Brackpool
00:29:35.700 for rebel
00:29:36.360 news and what
00:29:36.960 if I told you
00:29:37.800 that flight
00:29:38.440 attendants are
00:29:39.780 being forced
00:29:40.540 to wear a
00:29:41.220 type of tracking
00:29:42.020 device on their
00:29:42.860 wrist if they
00:29:44.120 leave their
00:29:45.020 hotel after a
00:29:46.260 quarantine you
00:29:47.580 probably think
00:29:48.160 that I'm a
00:29:48.520 conspiracy
00:29:48.940 theorist that's
00:29:49.900 usually the word
00:29:50.740 that gets thrown
00:29:51.980 about a lot
00:29:52.820 we're seeing a lot
00:29:53.960 of people fall
00:29:54.540 prey to
00:29:55.000 disinformation
00:29:55.700 and if these
00:29:56.260 and others want
00:29:57.040 to start talking
00:29:57.880 about conspiracy
00:29:58.540 theories well
00:30:00.780 that's their
00:30:01.360 choice
00:30:01.740 well today in
00:30:04.140 this report I
00:30:05.060 have an exclusive
00:30:06.100 photograph that
00:30:07.740 was taken of a
00:30:09.620 flight attendant
00:30:10.420 who was down
00:30:11.280 route after
00:30:12.140 their shift and
00:30:13.800 was forced to
00:30:14.500 wear a type of
00:30:15.620 tracking device
00:30:16.500 with a QR code
00:30:17.560 okay so I'd
00:30:18.140 like you to
00:30:18.500 take a look at
00:30:19.380 this image for
00:30:20.120 yourself so as
00:30:22.140 you can see there
00:30:22.940 you can see the
00:30:23.860 white wristband
00:30:24.920 around this
00:30:25.520 person's wrist
00:30:26.540 with a QR code
00:30:28.220 on it and of
00:30:30.520 course a little
00:30:30.980 symbol above
00:30:32.220 that's the symbol
00:30:33.480 of the Barbados
00:30:35.100 flag so I have a
00:30:36.920 pretty rough
00:30:37.740 estimate on what
00:30:38.820 hotel is
00:30:39.760 implementing this
00:30:40.640 and that is the
00:30:41.500 Hilton hotel
00:30:43.200 in Barbados
00:30:44.800 where flight
00:30:46.620 attendants usually
00:30:47.480 stay on there
00:30:48.340 overnight stays
00:30:49.300 there and I
00:30:50.660 want to go
00:30:51.040 towards the
00:30:52.220 caption that this
00:30:53.200 person put up
00:30:54.140 it says now
00:30:55.660 fast forward and
00:30:57.320 here are the
00:30:57.960 second class
00:30:59.040 citizens of
00:30:59.820 2020 and
00:31:01.360 2021
00:31:02.360 discrimination
00:31:03.720 bullying
00:31:04.780 denied basic
00:31:06.220 human rights
00:31:07.180 it says yes
00:31:08.520 that's a tracker
00:31:09.640 on my wrist
00:31:10.480 because I refuse
00:31:11.380 to comply with
00:31:12.220 their tyranny
00:31:12.920 lies and
00:31:13.980 scaremongering
00:31:14.920 tactics
00:31:15.820 tagged like a
00:31:17.160 dog
00:31:17.480 tagged like
00:31:18.480 cattle
00:31:19.140 tagged like
00:31:20.320 the poor
00:31:21.460 Jews from
00:31:22.360 World War
00:31:23.100 II
00:31:23.540 if we are not
00:31:24.600 careful the
00:31:25.620 history will
00:31:26.440 very easily
00:31:27.400 repeat itself
00:31:28.760 now I've gone
00:31:30.180 to question this
00:31:31.060 individual on
00:31:31.940 this photograph
00:31:32.980 but they
00:31:33.380 unfortunately
00:31:33.760 haven't been
00:31:34.360 responsive on
00:31:36.200 this I
00:31:36.780 understand if
00:31:37.940 I used to be
00:31:39.140 a flight attendant
00:31:39.980 myself so I
00:31:40.840 understand the
00:31:41.380 rules and
00:31:41.780 regulation on
00:31:42.500 speaking to the
00:31:43.180 press but this
00:31:44.680 isn't on and
00:31:46.540 if anyone has
00:31:47.180 more information
00:31:47.960 upon this please
00:31:49.020 get in touch
00:31:50.040 with me at
00:31:50.540 lewis.brackpaw
00:31:52.340 at rebelnews.com
00:31:53.800 whether this has
00:31:54.960 been happened to
00:31:55.620 you that you're a
00:31:56.200 flight attendant or
00:31:57.260 you know of
00:31:58.200 someone you need
00:31:59.700 to start presenting
00:32:00.800 this forward and
00:32:01.620 your identity is
00:32:03.000 completely protected
00:32:04.020 here at rebel news
00:32:05.100 we of course
00:32:05.860 conceal that
00:32:06.720 identity because we
00:32:08.080 don't want you
00:32:08.940 getting in
00:32:09.840 trouble I of
00:32:11.280 course in in
00:32:12.280 conversation with
00:32:13.560 british airways
00:32:14.680 and I've also
00:32:16.880 emailed virgin
00:32:18.100 atlantic on
00:32:19.260 getting their
00:32:20.220 take on this
00:32:21.560 image and
00:32:22.600 whether it is
00:32:23.260 policy for these
00:32:24.320 airlines to
00:32:25.600 implement or to
00:32:27.020 let this even
00:32:27.900 happen to their
00:32:29.340 own employees
00:32:31.240 now british airways
00:32:34.300 have gotten back
00:32:35.020 to me and said
00:32:35.840 that they need to
00:32:36.540 investigate this
00:32:37.360 further so
00:32:37.980 hopefully this
00:32:38.780 will sort
00:32:40.820 itself out
00:32:41.460 very soon
00:32:42.120 but it is a
00:32:42.840 big concern
00:32:43.380 because if
00:32:43.880 flight attendants
00:32:44.880 whether they've
00:32:45.680 had the vaccine
00:32:46.380 or not are
00:32:47.080 going to be
00:32:47.660 tracked outside
00:32:48.780 of their
00:32:49.360 hotel this
00:32:52.140 is against
00:32:53.080 basic human
00:32:54.760 rights you
00:32:55.600 shouldn't be
00:32:56.060 treated like
00:32:56.900 cattle and
00:32:57.980 from other
00:32:58.360 sources this
00:32:59.180 person has
00:33:00.060 actually had
00:33:00.600 one dose of
00:33:01.520 the vaccine
00:33:02.080 so it's
00:33:04.100 not a case
00:33:04.760 of whether
00:33:05.260 you've had
00:33:05.940 the vaccine
00:33:06.500 or not
00:33:07.140 or this is
00:33:08.240 just mistreatment
00:33:09.100 of someone
00:33:09.660 who is
00:33:10.400 unvaccinated
00:33:11.300 this is
00:33:11.860 happening to
00:33:12.500 someone who's
00:33:13.100 even had
00:33:13.840 the vaccine
00:33:14.920 but I think
00:33:15.680 it's a serious
00:33:16.440 message to
00:33:18.120 airline staff
00:33:19.740 or anyone
00:33:20.380 else in other
00:33:21.120 workforces that
00:33:22.320 if this does
00:33:23.100 continue to
00:33:23.860 happen that
00:33:25.280 we are going
00:33:25.860 to see a
00:33:26.420 long winding
00:33:27.480 road towards
00:33:28.500 more
00:33:29.260 totalitarianism
00:33:30.940 and other
00:33:31.820 mistreatment
00:33:33.100 of basic
00:33:34.480 human rights
00:33:35.480 so if you
00:33:36.640 think that
00:33:37.000 this will only
00:33:37.600 apply to
00:33:38.200 workers such
00:33:39.060 as flight
00:33:39.680 attendants
00:33:40.200 unfortunately
00:33:40.700 you are
00:33:41.440 mistaken
00:33:42.040 this is
00:33:42.580 happening to
00:33:43.100 visitors when
00:33:44.120 they arrive
00:33:44.940 at the
00:33:45.280 island's
00:33:45.960 airport
00:33:46.520 you can see
00:33:47.740 by this
00:33:48.260 image here
00:33:49.160 a red
00:33:49.920 wristband
00:33:50.500 saying
00:33:50.900 welcome to
00:33:51.700 Barbados
00:33:52.400 stay safe
00:33:53.600 at your
00:33:54.120 hotel
00:33:54.740 the same
00:33:55.540 wristband
00:33:56.160 underneath
00:33:56.560 this other
00:33:57.500 image
00:33:58.380 underneath
00:33:59.300 a tracker
00:34:00.020 the blog
00:34:00.800 states they
00:34:01.420 were met
00:34:01.960 by an
00:34:02.420 airport
00:34:02.780 concierge
00:34:03.680 who then
00:34:04.060 tied a
00:34:04.680 red
00:34:04.980 bracelet
00:34:05.640 they were
00:34:06.460 told then
00:34:07.000 to line
00:34:07.640 up in
00:34:07.960 a single
00:34:08.480 file
00:34:09.020 so I
00:34:09.860 had to
00:34:10.160 stand
00:34:10.460 behind my
00:34:11.060 husband
00:34:11.440 even if
00:34:12.120 we were
00:34:12.400 together
00:34:12.860 and it
00:34:13.740 says I
00:34:14.180 suppose it
00:34:14.940 was because
00:34:15.460 it made
00:34:15.920 it easier
00:34:16.540 for them
00:34:16.920 to spot
00:34:17.560 if each
00:34:18.120 passenger
00:34:18.700 has a
00:34:19.240 wristband
00:34:19.780 bracelet
00:34:20.380 we had
00:34:21.320 our
00:34:21.480 valid
00:34:21.820 negative
00:34:22.500 covid
00:34:22.980 19
00:34:23.540 PCR
00:34:24.060 test
00:34:24.600 results
00:34:25.140 and
00:34:25.620 certificates
00:34:26.180 to present
00:34:27.180 to the
00:34:27.660 first health
00:34:28.480 screening
00:34:29.140 now back
00:34:30.100 to this
00:34:30.400 tracking
00:34:30.740 device
00:34:31.120 it's
00:34:31.360 actually
00:34:31.720 being
00:34:32.140 programmed
00:34:32.820 by a
00:34:33.860 application
00:34:35.080 called
00:34:35.580 BIMSafe
00:34:36.680 so it
00:34:37.920 says here
00:34:38.580 to download
00:34:39.180 and install
00:34:39.740 the BIMSafe
00:34:40.440 app on
00:34:40.920 your mobile
00:34:41.460 phone
00:34:41.900 and this
00:34:42.500 is a
00:34:42.860 mandatory
00:34:43.280 requirement
00:34:44.160 that has
00:34:45.000 recently
00:34:45.480 been introduced
00:34:46.480 way back
00:34:47.220 into
00:34:47.560 February
00:34:48.120 2021
00:34:49.040 for monitoring
00:34:50.500 and tracking
00:34:51.360 each
00:34:52.180 visitor
00:34:52.780 to
00:34:53.460 Barbados
00:34:54.440 and a
00:34:55.500 bit more
00:34:55.860 information
00:34:56.420 it says
00:34:56.760 BIMSafe
00:34:57.520 is a
00:34:58.020 location
00:34:58.620 and
00:34:58.960 symptoms
00:34:59.600 monitoring
00:35:00.360 mobile
00:35:01.000 app
00:35:01.540 developed
00:35:02.220 by the
00:35:02.840 Ministry
00:35:03.260 of Health
00:35:04.020 and Wellness
00:35:04.680 to assist
00:35:06.000 in the
00:35:06.420 prevention
00:35:06.900 of the
00:35:07.700 spread
00:35:08.140 of
00:35:08.560 covid-19
00:35:09.580 in
00:35:09.860 Barbados
00:35:10.480 and upon
00:35:11.420 more
00:35:11.880 investigation
00:35:12.560 you can
00:35:13.800 find out
00:35:14.420 that this
00:35:14.980 BIMSafe
00:35:15.940 technology
00:35:16.900 is from
00:35:18.160 the UK
00:35:18.620 and the
00:35:19.900 website as
00:35:20.560 you can see
00:35:21.040 is here
00:35:21.580 and all
00:35:22.380 more
00:35:22.600 information
00:35:23.200 about what
00:35:24.040 this
00:35:24.760 application
00:35:25.700 does
00:35:26.260 and how
00:35:26.640 it works
00:35:27.440 now I'm
00:35:28.800 not a
00:35:29.060 conspiracy
00:35:29.440 theorist
00:35:30.060 at all
00:35:30.520 I don't
00:35:31.160 really need
00:35:31.680 to make
00:35:32.020 that any
00:35:32.440 clearer
00:35:32.880 but it's
00:35:34.200 quite a
00:35:34.740 scary
00:35:35.140 prospect
00:35:35.760 that you
00:35:37.240 could be
00:35:37.740 tracked
00:35:38.320 and monitored
00:35:40.260 if you're
00:35:41.000 unvaccinated
00:35:41.860 we now know
00:35:42.620 after the
00:35:43.300 booster rollout
00:35:44.000 anyone who
00:35:44.480 is double
00:35:44.860 vaccinated
00:35:45.580 that status
00:35:46.880 is now
00:35:47.380 meaningless
00:35:47.840 it doesn't
00:35:48.840 mean anything
00:35:49.580 anymore
00:35:50.340 do you think
00:35:51.220 we're going
00:35:51.580 to see
00:35:51.860 future
00:35:52.240 development
00:35:52.780 of
00:35:53.220 tracking
00:35:53.820 devices
00:35:54.380 here in
00:35:54.880 the UK
00:35:55.260 let me
00:35:56.440 know
00:35:56.580 what
00:35:56.720 you
00:35:56.820 think