Rebel News Podcast - EZRA LEVANT ｜ America sounds the alarm on Canada's Hamas threat

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Big show today. We're going to interview our alumnus,

00:00:04.040 Kian Bextie, who managed to scrum Justin Trudeau on a beach a couple days ago. Very exciting.

00:00:09.920 And I want to take you through Senator Marco Rubio's letter to the U.S. Department of Homeland

00:00:15.300 Security about Canada's risky decision to bring thousands of Gaza refugees to Canada.

00:00:22.700 Marco Rubio is worried that they will walk across the border into the U.S.

00:00:26.520 I'll read his letter to you. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus.

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00:00:48.540 All right. Here's today's podcast.

00:00:56.520 Tonight, a U.S. Senator seems to care more about our safety than our own politicians do.

00:01:12.680 It's July 25th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:15.340 You're fighting for freedom.

00:01:18.560 Shame on you, you censorious bug.

00:01:21.700 I'm not sure if you know this, but Trudeau decided to bring in refugees from Gaza and

00:01:36.840 they've started to arrive. I've seen social media posts showing what are described as

00:01:41.760 hundreds of Gazans pouring into our country. And yesterday, a U.S. Senator rang the alarm

00:01:48.820 about this, worried that terrorists will cross over the border from Canada into the States.

00:01:55.240 I'll tell you more about that in a moment. No other country in the world that I know of

00:01:59.560 is taking refugees from Gaza. I think Australia might be considering it.

00:02:06.460 But, you know, there's a lot of countries right near Gaza and they're not taking any.

00:02:12.160 Gaza is 99.9% Muslim. There are dozens of Muslim countries in the world right around there.

00:02:22.060 They're not taking any refugees from Gaza. Not just Muslim countries, but dozens of Arab countries.

00:02:29.040 Arab being an ethnicity, Arabic being a language. Those countries are not taking these refugees

00:02:34.780 from Gaza. Countries that are a better fit in so many ways than we are or Australia would be.

00:02:42.020 From the climate to social and economic fit to the kind of food they eat.

00:02:48.460 As in, do you think it would be easier for someone from Gaza to find work and make friends

00:02:53.160 and make a new life in Cairo, Egypt or Calgary, Alberta? It's obvious, but no Arab or Muslim country

00:03:00.780 in the world will take them. Why is that? Here's the mighty fence. The wall on the border between

00:03:08.900 Gaza and Egypt is much more fearsome and impenetrable than the one between Israel and Gaza that Hamas

00:03:17.000 breached with such ease on October 7th last year. Why would their cousins in Egypt, fellow Muslims and

00:03:25.060 Arabs, neighbors, go to such lengths to keep them out? There's an obvious answer. Refugees from Gaza

00:03:33.700 are most likely either terrorist supporters or terrorists themselves. That is not a baseless accusation

00:03:42.100 or a mere insult. It's what Gazans themselves say to pollsters. Most people in Gaza support the

00:03:52.300 terrorist attack on October 7th. They support Hamas, the terrorist group that runs the Gaza

00:03:57.420 Strip. It's not a big surprise. They have been totally inculcated in that worldview since 2005

00:04:04.160 when Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip. When Hamas took over Gaza, they instituted a Sharia law

00:04:12.420 dictatorship. And it's basically been 20 years of brainwashing. They teach Hamas propaganda and

00:04:18.640 anti-Semitic hatred to young kids in preschool even. If you're pumped full of that hatred from

00:04:26.840 the day you're born to the day you're an adult, and then your adult life is under the Hamas military

00:04:32.480 dictatorship, odds are you're going to be a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer yourself.

00:04:38.320 It's amazing the poll numbers aren't actually higher. And the main point I'm driving at here is

00:04:44.580 Hamas still controls the instrument of the state in Gaza. The health ministry, for example, that's run

00:04:52.040 by Hamas. Of course it is. And their main job is to provide propaganda numbers to the West,

00:04:58.560 exaggerating the civilian death toll, blaming Israel for Hamas-friendly fire against its own people,

00:05:05.200 and identifying plainclothes terrorists as civilians in the death counts.

00:05:10.080 The reason I mention this is Hamas still controls much of daily life in Gaza, and many government

00:05:17.780 functions. So when Canada says to Gaza that Canada will accept thousands of refugees,

00:05:24.860 those refugees are not self-selected. It's not a free place. They're selected or approved by Hamas,

00:05:32.280 which runs the bureaucracy there. So the thousands of Gaza refugees that Trudeau is bringing to Canada,

00:05:38.780 Hamas chose them. A terrorist group chose them. That's really happening. Just this past week,

00:05:48.380 Canadian terrorists, homegrown, made headlines around the world. One for conspiring with terrorists

00:05:53.560 in the United Kingdom, the other for flying from Canada to Israel to attack some Jews directly. He

00:05:59.340 failed. So we already have terrorists active in Canada, and Trudeau is bringing in more.

00:06:05.180 By the thousand. We've had a petition about this for months, by the way, at Rebel News.

00:06:11.260 We want to deport Hamas supporters who are not citizens. We don't want to bring more in. We say

00:06:16.800 no to Gaza refugees. But Trudeau obviously doesn't listen to us. And strangely, I haven't heard any

00:06:24.660 conservative politicians opposing the Gaza refugees in any vigorous specific way. Have you?

00:06:31.120 Maybe they've whispered it somewhere. But you'd think this would be a five-alarm fire, wouldn't you?

00:06:36.600 Now, if I'm wrong, please correct me. Let me know if I miss someone in the official opposition

00:06:40.740 opposing this. There are some reasons to oppose it. They're a danger to us. They won't fit into our

00:06:48.680 Canadian society. And they might fit in too well with the Hamas hate marches every week in Canada.

00:06:54.820 We have too many migrants already in Canada. Housing is expensive. Wages are driven down.

00:07:00.760 And what work skills do these refugees have? They wouldn't be a fit here. But I think another one,

00:07:06.380 another reason, is Canada's reputation with our allies, which is what we're talking about today.

00:07:12.220 Here's what U.S. Senator Marco Rubio, who happens to be the ranking member of the U.S. Senate

00:07:17.680 Intelligence Committee, here's what he has to say. He tweeted about this.

00:07:21.700 Canada allowing Gazan refugees with potential terrorist ties into their country poses a national

00:07:28.920 security threat to the U.S. northern border. In a letter with colleagues, urged Secretary Mayorkas

00:07:36.260 to heighten precautions along the border. Then he posted a link to that letter. I'm going to read

00:07:42.680 a lot of it. It's a letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Homeland Security. That's who Mayorkas is.

00:07:47.760 So here's a letter. Dear Secretary Mayorkas, on May 27, 2024, the government of Canada

00:07:54.360 announced its intent to increase the number of Gazans who will be allowed into their country

00:08:00.200 under temporary special measures. We are deeply concerned and request heightened scrutiny by the

00:08:06.520 U.S. Department of Homeland Security should any of them attempt to enter the United States

00:08:10.960 at ports of entry as well as between ports of entry, like Roxham Road in reverse.

00:08:18.020 We have the longest undefended border with the U.S. in the world. So now Hamas and their handpicked

00:08:24.100 refugees to Canada do too. I'm going to read about a special kind of passport that Trudeau is giving

00:08:30.100 these Gazans as described by Rubio. It's part of the letter.

00:08:33.300 Canada's measures to apply for a temporary resident visa, TRV, will reportedly be offered

00:08:40.180 to Palestinians living in the Palestinian territories. Currently, once the foreign national

00:08:45.420 is granted entry by Canada via a TRV, they are given a refugee travel document which replaces their

00:08:53.060 original country passport while they apply for Canadian citizenship and wait to receive a Canadian

00:08:58.560 passport. I didn't know we were welcoming these Gazans on a permanent basis, did you?

00:09:04.160 After arriving in Canada and being issued this travel document, Palestinians can then travel

00:09:09.300 outside Canada since the refugee travel document becomes a valid form of identification which is

00:09:15.260 recognized in 146 countries for the purposes of filling out paperwork and applying for visas.

00:09:21.380 For example, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services accepts a refugee travel document as a valid

00:09:28.740 form of documentation for traveling purposes in place of passport. However, with little to no reliable

00:09:34.520 records or background checks of these individuals from the Palestinian territories, these policies unlock

00:09:40.500 opportunities for individuals with ties to terrorist groups to enter Canada, receive new forms of

00:09:47.060 identification, and then try to enter the U.S. along the porous northern border. And that's the thing,

00:09:54.920 isn't it? We love America, and America loves us, so we really have easy travel across the border. We've had it for

00:10:02.640 generations. 9-11 tightened things up a bit. You need a passport typically to cross the border now, but we don't need a

00:10:09.840 special visa. And of course, Trudeau is giving a form of a passport to people from Gaza replacing their old

00:10:19.160 passport. Will the U.S. continue to allow this to happen, allow free and easy travel, if Trudeau opens the

00:10:27.560 northern door to risks? I'll keep reading the letter.

00:10:31.660 Irrespective of Canada's immigration policies, the U.S. should not waive common-sense terrorist

00:10:39.300 screening and vetting for any individual entering the U.S. through other countries. While the Biden

00:10:45.200 administration claims that all foreign nationals are inspected pursuant to the Immigration and

00:10:49.780 Nationality Act, this administration's lax border enforcement is increasingly apparent as terrorists

00:10:57.340 and known criminals continue to stream across U.S. land borders, including from Canada. Unfortunately,

00:11:04.240 so far in fiscal year 24, get this, U.S. Customs and Border Protection's Office of Field Operations

00:11:12.420 has encountered more than 233 suspected terrorists at our northern border, with many more likely going

00:11:21.820 undetected. This is already higher than totals in previous years. I didn't know that, did you?

00:11:27.340 223 suspected terrorists in Canada trying to get into the States. This year alone.

00:11:36.600 Now, that's terrifying to me because that means there are 233 terrorist suspects in Canada just who

00:11:41.940 were going to the U.S. and were turned back. How many more are up here who haven't tried to go to the U.S.

00:11:50.240 or weren't detected by the U.S.? And if they were detected, they were surely just stopped at the border and

00:11:55.740 sent back. Sent back to what? Just sent back to their homes, to our neighborhoods? Were police on the

00:12:02.040 Canadian side even advised of this? Were police invited to arrest these terrorists? Did they?

00:12:09.780 Or are these suspected terrorists just milling around, just sitting in Canada now, unable to go to the U.S.?

00:12:16.540 So perhaps they'll choose Canadian targets? What happened to these 233 suspected terrorists that

00:12:24.000 came from Canada and were returned to Canada? I find that a terrifying question. Here's more from the

00:12:30.400 letter. As such, the possibility of terrorists crossing the U.S.-Canada border is deeply concerning

00:12:36.440 given the deep penetration of gas in society by Hamas. It would be irresponsible for the U.S. to not take

00:12:43.460 necessary heightened precautions when foreigners attempt to enter the United States. Further,

00:12:49.720 we urge you to coordinate with the U.S. Department of State to ensure that the U.S. is informed by the

00:12:55.760 government of Canada if particularly high-risk individuals are allowed to enter Canada from Gaza

00:13:01.180 and request answers to the following questions by August 8th, 2024. Now, this is a list of questions

00:13:07.940 that Rubio has, but we should be asking them too. And I don't think they've been asked. Here's Rubio's

00:13:15.400 questions. When a Palestinian national or Canadian TRV holder, that's a temporary sort of form of a

00:13:24.640 passport, attempts to enter and or claim asylum at a U.S. port of entry, what is the U.S. Department of

00:13:31.180 Homeland Security's protocol to either permit or deny their entry? So what happens if they come to Canada

00:13:37.640 and then try and claim asylum in the States? Have there been instances of Palestinian nationals

00:13:43.440 entering the United States through our southern and or northern borders? If so, how many have been

00:13:48.720 released into the U.S. despite the U.S. not accepting Gazan refugees? Wow, that's a good question.

00:13:56.940 How many have been denied entry? For those that are denied, what is the process for removal?

00:14:01.780 If a Gazan claims asylum at the southern or northern border, under what circumstances

00:14:06.920 will the Department of Homeland Security release the individual into the U.S.? I'm assuming they're

00:14:14.140 being sent back to Canada, but Senator Rubio, what he cares about is, are they getting into the U.S.?

00:14:20.140 Have Gazans been permitted entry into the country via the southern or northern border? If so,

00:14:26.120 how many and under what status? Those are great questions. Have you heard those questions asked in Canada?

00:14:31.740 And then he closes, thank you for your intention to this important matter. I think those are really

00:14:37.980 good questions. I have not heard them asked either by the media or the official opposition in this

00:14:42.040 country. I think we need to ask our own government those same and similar questions. If only our official

00:14:48.260 opposition might have the courage to do so. And look, Marco Rubio's office wrote the latter, but half a dozen U.S.

00:14:55.700 senators signed it, including some very senior and influential senators, Ted Cruz, for example.

00:15:02.120 Senators in the U.S. really do things. They're very powerful people. There's only 100 senators in

00:15:08.120 the whole Congress. They're not rubber stamps like we have up here or Chinese agents as we have up here.

00:15:14.140 Our senators really don't have power. They do down there. Oh, and when I went to the CBC's website

00:15:20.440 to see how they were reporting on this, well, the answer is they've got nothing. Here's the search I

00:15:27.120 did. Nothing. Six U.S. senators ring the alarm about Hamas infiltration. They say 233 terrorist

00:15:35.000 suspects were detected trying to come in from Canada. They're threatening to tighten up the border,

00:15:41.780 but Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster says nothing, not a word. Yeah, we're in trouble.

00:15:48.300 How pitiful is it that we need help from the U.S. to save us? Stay with us for more.

00:16:08.560 Hey, did you see this the other day? Very exciting.

00:16:11.220 Can I ask you though? Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'll just ask you super quickly. Your minister says

00:16:16.100 they're going on vacation. Don't put your hands on me. Don't put your hands on me.

00:16:19.700 More than any political leader on the face of the earth, Justin Trudeau carefully manages his media

00:16:24.920 appearances. Who's allowed access to him? Who can get into press conferences? Who he'll arrest if they

00:16:30.540 get too close? Who he'll sit down for an interview with?

00:16:33.700 You had your media advance call the RCMP because I was going to ask questions if you didn't want.

00:16:39.700 I wasn't the CBC. I wasn't CTV. I wasn't Global News. So you had to arrest it. So we came out here.

00:16:44.180 Following his catastrophic by-election loss in Toronto, the Prime Minister has gone into hiding.

00:16:51.220 He refuses to call a caucus meeting and his administration is hanging on by a thread.

00:16:56.740 The Prime Minister is right here.

00:16:58.280 Are you looking for a replacement right now? No, I am absolutely not. I am running in the

00:17:05.560 next election. Are you concerned at all about your poll numbers? No, I am not. What causes you

00:17:11.080 to not be concerned? After reviewing open source information and discerning the whereabouts of

00:17:16.360 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's plane, we realized he was in hiding in Tofino. The mainstream media was

00:17:22.040 calling it a vacation. But we knew where he was and we knew that this was the only opportunity we'd have

00:17:28.200 to get questions answered. Mark Hollins said that going on a road trip is equivalent to setting the

00:17:32.920 world on fire. You can take a summer fun time vacation where you're locked in a car for 10

00:17:38.520 consecutive days non-stop with no bathroom breaks and the Conservatives have a plan for you to have

00:17:43.960 that summer time fun and the cost? Give up the future of the planet. You chartered a government jet

00:17:50.600 to here, Tofino. I'm not going to do the math on how much carbon that burnt. Shockingly,

00:17:55.880 we had a 13-minute conversation with the Prime Minister on a beach. The first time perhaps in his

00:18:01.800 entire political career, he didn't lean on the police to stop a journalist from doing their job.

00:18:07.640 This full interview is available at thecountersignal.com for newsroom insiders. 13 minutes,

00:18:14.440 unaltered, unedited conversation with the Prime Minister asking questions that the CBC would never

00:18:20.760 dare to ask. What shampoo do you use? Do you see the similarities between yourself and Joe Biden's

00:18:28.360 current political situation? No. Please support the work that we are doing by becoming a newsroom

00:18:34.040 insider so that we can do more of this. So that we can ask the questions the mainstream media refuses to.

00:18:39.400 So we can get to the story wherever it is.

00:18:45.640 This story unfolds. You might recognize that young man in the ball cap. He used to work with

00:18:50.680 Rebel News, and he joins us now via Skype from Calgary. I'm talking about Kian Bexty, who now runs

00:18:57.640 the countersignal. Well, Kian, I've been excited about this all week since you sort of gave me a little

00:19:03.320 teaser about it a couple days ago. First of all, I want to tell you I'm a little bit jealous that you

00:19:08.600 came up with the idea, because I love that idea. And to execute it, very adventurous,

00:19:13.880 very entrepreneurial, the best of citizen journalism. I got to say, I was smiling from

00:19:20.920 ear to ear just with the audacity of it. I think the boring, staid, complacent, passive,

00:19:27.400 groupthink Justin Journos of Canada exactly need that kind of dissident journalism you were doing.

00:19:35.600 That's what I think. How was it? What was it like?

00:19:39.200 It was surreal. And I think that that was sort of captured in the reaction. People couldn't believe

00:19:44.640 that it had happened. One of, actually, you'll remember Kathy, one thing she told me when I was

00:19:51.760 starting with Rebel News that one of the biggest compliments you can get as a journalist is when you

00:19:57.060 reach out to a source you're doing a story on, you call them, and the first thing they say is,

00:20:03.140 how'd you get this phone number? That's, it's kind of, you know, a bit of a compliment to any

00:20:08.020 journalist. And when people are shocked that we were able to find exactly where he was on one of the

00:20:14.740 remote, most remote places in the country, you know, it wasn't the most easy thing to do, but it's not,

00:20:21.980 you know, it, we did it because that was our only option. You'll know as well as I do that

00:20:27.280 we had to sue Justin Trudeau to get into the parliamentary, uh, the, the election debates back

00:20:33.640 in 20, uh, back before 2020. And then we had to fight again in 2021 to get back in. Uh, he'll arrest

00:20:40.520 us as he did when I was with Rebel News, uh, um, when we went to go to one of his pandemic press

00:20:45.660 conferences, he's the one that makes it difficult. Uh, and we need to get the answers that our viewers

00:20:51.680 want to hear. Uh, so we meet him on a beach. You know, it's a public place. He had his public RCMP

00:20:59.680 with him. It is true that his family was there also. Um, he's on vacation half the time. In fact,

00:21:06.700 I think there was a study that shows he's taken more personal days than any other prime minister

00:21:11.140 on record. I would be more sympathetic to complaints about, oh, you found him on vacation.

00:21:16.900 First of all, if he wasn't on vacation all the time, second of all, if he wasn't lecturing you and me

00:21:21.460 not to have so many gas guzzling vacations, but more, most important of all, he refuses to let

00:21:28.720 journalists he doesn't like talk to him at the official places. So when I see journalists like

00:21:35.300 Andre Picard of the Globe and Mail, uh, he actually tweeted this. He said that you were stalking. He said,

00:21:41.860 this isn't journalism. This is stalking. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is confronted during his

00:21:48.980 family holiday by Kian Bextie of Rebel News. Yeah. You know what? Uh, there's Andre Picard of the

00:21:54.600 Globe and Mail. Can't even do basic journalism where you're from. Um, Andre Picard can get an audience

00:21:59.560 with Justin Trudeau anytime he wants. It's not, not a, not one for him to ask skeptical or prickly

00:22:05.880 questions. He can get in to a press conference where Trudeau will read a script and only polite

00:22:13.300 questions are allowed and Andre Picard might get the occasional scrap fed to him in a leak. So Andre

00:22:19.580 Picard gets his journalism, um, that is regime journalism by every definition. He's on the payroll

00:22:26.920 of the government subsidy. So he gets access to Trudeau because he has accepted the terms that Trudeau

00:22:33.780 offers be compliant, be obedient, take the cash and shut up. What Andre Picard doesn't realize is

00:22:40.000 that journalists like you and Rebel News and about half a dozen others cannot get access. And if we

00:22:45.600 try, we're arrested. That's a great point. And I wanted to grill him on that. That was one of the

00:22:51.340 lines of questions that I asked him. Uh, I, I confronted him for the first time after, uh, it's been five

00:22:57.560 years now since I was arrested outside of his house, uh, with our cameraman with Rebel. Uh, and he's

00:23:02.780 never answered for that. And he didn't really answer, uh, it on the beach either. He is really

00:23:07.180 good at evading questions. That's why he's managed to stay in the position that he's been in for so

00:23:12.020 long is he doesn't really answer the question. And when he does, he ends up lying as he did multiple

00:23:16.900 times. We tried to add some visuals onto the screen so that we could hold him accountable, um, and give

00:23:21.980 context to our viewers that he actually kind of was full of it a lot of the time, especially when talking

00:23:27.480 about the online harms act and when talking about his vacation schedule, which he says he works

00:23:32.440 harder than the vast majority of Canadians, uh, which I think is just outrageous. Anyone who works

00:23:37.160 two, two jobs, a single mother, uh, is going to be scratching their head when they watch that wondering

00:23:41.900 why exactly the prime minister who's able to afford a luxury vacation for one third of the year. Um,

00:23:49.700 why he thinks that his job is harder than hers. And as you know, I've worked more days a week than

00:23:58.000 the vast majority of Canadians. You know, um, you showed a few clips there in, in that trailer we

00:24:04.520 played of you being, um, I'm not sure if arrest is the right word, but you were detained when an

00:24:10.680 officer puts their hands on you. That's actually the legal definition of an arrest. You're being

00:24:16.160 detained. You were frog marched off of government property. You showed our friend, David Menzies

00:24:20.840 being slammed up against the wall, um, who had been waiting to ask Trudeau a question. You meant,

00:24:27.160 you just mentioned about how he banned us from the leaders debates. Um, tell us a little bit about

00:24:33.480 when you first encountered him, he had his security sort of around there. You were going in low key.

00:24:40.100 You just had a cell phone as a microphone and your colleague had a cell phone, I presume as a camera,

00:24:45.840 not nothing big that would say professional media. It looked like you were just a couple on the beach.

00:24:51.840 So I think you probably came in under the radar. Tell us what that was like. And then I'm going to

00:24:57.380 play the clip of when the RCMP sort of realized that you're there to engage with them and they

00:25:02.260 swarm, but I can imagine your heart was racing when you saw him and moved in. You wanted to move in

00:25:08.720 quickly, but probably not so quickly that you would trip an alarm. Just give us that tick tock.

00:25:13.640 That's exactly right. Yeah. So you see him there, you identify him. Then what do you do?

00:25:18.980 Well, it, I'll go back a little bit further. We get, I get to Tofino. I land, uh, on the seaplane

00:25:24.180 there. I get picked up by my colleague who lives on the Island, who met me in Tofino.

00:25:28.200 We drive around. It's really easy to find where Justin Trudeau is at any time. Um, when you know what

00:25:33.820 an RCMP officer who's undercover looks like, they wear a black vest, they have plaid on, and they usually

00:25:39.160 have sunglasses on his motorcade was pretty difficult to hide. It was parked in front of a

00:25:43.140 driveway of a house. So we parked our car about a kilometer up the road, uh, and then got onto the

00:25:47.920 beach. We were wearing beach clothing. You can see I was wearing shorts there. Um, we brought towels.

00:25:53.720 We looked like we were there to enjoy the beach and we ended up sitting sort of adjacent to the

00:25:59.040 property for about two hours while we wondered, Hmm, is Trudeau going to go out for dinner tonight?

00:26:04.420 Is he going to come enjoy the sunset? Where are his kids? They, we had no idea where they were. If

00:26:09.680 his family was even with him, there was no, I, you know, it was actually a public interest story at

00:26:14.520 that point. Did he have, you know, we didn't know was Sophie there was someone else there. Um,

00:26:20.760 it's all interesting stuff that's definitely in the public interest. Um, and in that moment where we

00:26:25.900 were sort of blind, we didn't even know if he was in the building at the time. And as we're sitting

00:26:29.640 there on a, on a, some driftwood, we see Trudeau sort of walk out of the back end of the property

00:26:35.940 towards the shore. It was about a 90 second walk in the RCMP remained on the property. Uh, so my, uh,

00:26:43.800 my team and I, we started walking along the shoreline as slowly as we could so that it didn't raise any

00:26:49.660 sort of suspicions. Uh, and then when we got within about 50 meters, we sort of picked up our

00:26:56.140 pace. My heart was pounding obviously, because how often is a prime minister, a leader of a G7 country

00:27:01.760 standing with nothing between you, no, no Terry Guion to body check you out the way, no RCMP to put

00:27:09.100 handcuffs on you. Uh, it was just like this moment, everything started going crazy. So we get up to him

00:27:15.280 and right, right when we get within about 20 meters of him, the RCMP stand up and they'd say,

00:27:19.700 Oh no, we screwed up. They start running, but they're a fair distance away. That beach in Tofino

00:27:26.240 is a very long beach. So, uh, we get up to him and then we start, uh, getting into it. I tried to

00:27:32.440 take a selfie with him at the start. It always reduces the tension. And it's actually something

00:27:36.560 that I'm, I might not be doing in the future because people don't really get the joke. Um, I do it

00:27:40.720 with Greta Thunberg and Christia Freeland and, uh, Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh. I do it so

00:27:46.120 that when they say, Oh, you know, uh, they condemn something that we do or report on, they say, Oh,

00:27:51.200 this person is a terrible person. He's a racist or whatever. And I can say, Oh, but you took a

00:27:55.460 selfie with me. I just thought it was funny, but anyways, I'm not going to be doing that anymore.

00:27:59.140 We started getting into the questions right away. And I wanted to know, or you just got straight to the

00:28:03.220 questions. No, I asked him for a selfie. And did he say yes? No, he said no. He said he was on vacation.

00:28:10.720 Which I was shocked by, but, um, we cut that out and he, uh, we got into the questions pretty much

00:28:16.940 immediately after that. And I wanted to know why he wasn't calling it caucus meeting. Um,

00:28:21.220 that was the main question that we had for him. Why was he in hiding there? The mainstream media

00:28:25.520 was calling this a vacation, but really it's just sort of a prorogament of his, uh, of his

00:28:31.180 relationship with his caucus, his caucus. So I was all trying to figure out if they're going to have a

00:28:35.440 job come next October. They're asking him what he is going to change in order to keep them

00:28:40.620 employed. And he's refused. He says he's having a couple of calls, but his caucus is huge. Uh, he

00:28:46.740 needs to have a caucus meeting. He's refusing to do it. And we wanted to know why. Yeah. Well,

00:28:51.060 that's a very exciting story of you coming in and then finally closing in and the RCMP running.

00:28:56.520 You posted a very short clip of that first interaction. I think we've got it here. Let's

00:29:01.560 take a look of, of when the RCMP realized something was cooking. Here, take a look.

00:29:06.620 Good. Thank you. Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. You enjoyed your time on vacation. I am. Yeah. Good. You

00:29:17.060 having a good time on vacation, sir. I'm happy to speak with you because actually that's the

00:29:20.620 first time we've been able to speak for you because the government is so soon. Okay. That's

00:29:25.180 enough. That's enough. That's enough, guys. Guys, keep going. Okay.

00:29:39.060 There was also a moment where he put his hand on you a bit. Was that later or before that?

00:29:46.500 Hey, that was before the RCMP arrived. He put his hand, I started asking him questions. He put his

00:29:51.940 hand on my chest, which was a little bit strange. It's something that he does a lot. Uh, you might,

00:29:56.760 you, you might remember a lot of his interactions with, with women, uh, and you know, men, he puts his

00:30:03.260 hand on them in a way to like control them, to tell them that, no, he's in charge, sit down,

00:30:08.400 quit asking questions, quit misbehaving. Uh, I'm running the show here. It's, it's weird psychology,

00:30:13.580 but it's, it's part of his narcissistic personality. Yeah. It's a physical dominance

00:30:18.640 thing, um, that he puts his hands on you almost like a police officer puts their hands on you

00:30:24.020 as a show of dominance. Trudeau did that to you, called him immediately and said,

00:30:28.480 don't touch me. And he, I think that's when he realized that he might be in a snip,

00:30:33.220 sniff of jeopardy, uh, from an optical point of view. And that's when he basically waved off

00:30:38.680 the RCMP and said, all right, I'll give this guy a few minutes. Um, I want to play another clip of

00:30:44.540 when you and him were walking and talking, but this is another clip you released because, um,

00:30:50.040 this guy who goes to vacations and private resorts in Jamaica on billionaires Island in the Bahamas,

00:30:56.320 always taking the private jet, took his ex-wife Sophie along on the private jet to Tofino last time,

00:31:02.780 even though they weren't together. That was weird. Here's him talking about how hard he works. Take a look.

00:31:07.140 And as you know, I work more days a week than the vast majority of Canadians.

00:31:14.680 You've actually taken hundreds of vacation days last year. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. I'll leave it.

00:31:18.600 Sorry. You can do the math. Glenn McGregor did the math last year, pointed out how many days I work

00:31:26.640 as prime minister. It's equivalent of working every single day of the week and Saturday and not taking

00:31:32.920 any day off, not any, any, uh, uh, bank holidays, not two weeks of vacation, nothing. I work incredibly

00:31:40.400 hard and I get to be dad with my kids with nothing else going on for 10 minutes. Yeah. Your, your stats

00:31:48.000 that you had on the screen there show it's a lie. I mean, he, for months, he didn't even bother going

00:31:53.620 to question period, like 91 days off. I it's, it's just absolutely astonishing. Um, I, I think

00:32:02.300 in, in some ways that's his style. Like he's not a policy guy. He, he, he, and he doesn't delegate to

00:32:10.380 a lot of cabinet ministers. There's one or two cabinet ministers. He let makes, uh, let's make

00:32:14.720 decisions, but really it's just staff. And he said this before he said, he's more about the relationship

00:32:20.160 and, and smarter people do the policy stuff. I think, I think he is sort of lazy. He probably

00:32:25.700 doesn't think he is, but his entire life, he said servants and people taking care of his problems,

00:32:32.020 doctor, sorry, lawyers, accountants, daddy's trust fund. Like I think in his own mind, he probably

00:32:37.060 does work really hard because he's never actually had, he's probably, this is probably the hardest

00:32:41.680 he's ever worked because he's never worked hard before. No, he has no context for what it means to

00:32:47.880 actually work a hard job. Um, being a drama teacher where you're there as the celebrity

00:32:53.500 on campus, uh, being a ski instructor, uh, and then moving up to prime minister of the

00:32:59.860 country. I mean, even his experiences being an MP in opposition, it's not a real job. Uh,

00:33:05.500 he has no idea what it's like to work a job where he's required to actually do some, put some

00:33:10.540 effort into getting some work product, uh, nothing in the private sector, nothing that actually

00:33:15.520 gives him any context into what it actually means to work hard. His staff work really hard. I mean,

00:33:21.080 their agenda over the last nine years, they've totally altered this country. Um, but that's

00:33:26.020 not a matter of Justin Trudeau doing it. It's a matter of his staff being there to push that

00:33:31.660 agenda forward. Trudeau has been a very small part of it other than the face of it.

00:33:35.260 You know, um, there was one line he said there, Oh, um, I work really hard. Glenn McGregor

00:33:42.080 says so. Glenn McGregor is one of his pet journalists that he feeds things to, um, to,

00:33:48.040 to give an, a third party accounting of just how hard he works. It was sort of pitiful. Um,

00:33:54.140 I, I think the reaction to your, uh, interview has been interesting. I, I, my personal reaction

00:34:01.460 was one of excitement because I, occasionally we do exciting, adventurous journalism like that.

00:34:08.440 And so I recognized what you must have done to get that scoop. And I, um, I was excited for you and I

00:34:18.080 was a little bit jealous that we didn't do it. Although I think he would have recognized, you

00:34:21.680 know, no disrespect to you. I think he would have recognized me and, and he would, he would,

00:34:25.960 I don't think he would have ever have given me, uh, 10 minutes as he gave to you. In fact,

00:34:30.300 I don't think he quite recognized. He didn't know who I was. He didn't, um,

00:34:34.000 he thought I was there on vacation for the, he, he, he did not think he was giving an interview

00:34:38.540 to independent media when he told the RCMP to stop. He thought he was speaking to a citizen.

00:34:42.900 Right. Uh, and I told him, no, I'm with the, I'm with the counter signal. And then,

00:34:46.060 and then it clicked for him. He's like, Oh, this is right. This is for the record.

00:34:50.960 And no disrespect to the counter signal. I just don't think he's had that much exposure to it.

00:34:55.120 Whereas rebel news, even when you were with rebel news, one of the clips you showed was when you

00:34:59.280 were arrested, you were with rebel news. So I think, uh, you sort of slipped under his spidey

00:35:05.560 senses and, um, and that was very exciting. I think this shows the divide in Canada between

00:35:13.020 people who value being passive and polite and Oh, how dare you interrupt him for 10 minutes when his

00:35:20.880 son is there. Um, as if he's not on vacation all the time, as if he's not a public person in a public

00:35:26.880 place, who's doing atrocious public things, and most importantly, kept you out of the formal

00:35:32.880 mechanisms for accountability. I think watching even some so-called conservatives chide you for

00:35:40.300 that, I think shows the difference between populist conservatives and sort of establishment

00:35:46.160 influencers who are more interested in, you know, uh, getting an invitation to appear on a CBC panel

00:35:53.520 or getting a Christmas card from Trudeau. It was very, uh, eyeopening to me to see who would

00:35:59.400 criticize you for what I thought was great journalism. Um, and by the way, I think when

00:36:04.700 Trudeau stopped to give you 10 minutes, um, I, I will acknowledge that he, he, he not only did that

00:36:11.200 to sit because he knew it would look better, but he did look better. Um, he didn't look as

00:36:16.560 thin-skinned as he could have. Um, you know, I thought, I thought you put excellent questions

00:36:23.360 to him, but I, I thought some of his answers were good enough. I, I actually thought, um,

00:36:30.200 both sides had a successful interaction. He should allow himself to be asked real questions more often.

00:36:36.820 I couldn't, I couldn't agree more. Um, when you watch him answer even the most slightly prickly

00:36:43.320 question in a press conference, you can see the, the media training kick in. He goes dead behind

00:36:49.540 the eyes. He answers a question that he was never asked. And it's just a script, the talking points

00:36:54.880 that his chief of staff gave him that morning when he came off of his, uh, high from the night before.

00:37:00.700 So, you know, the, the response that he gives when he's not in that press conference setting was

00:37:05.600 totally different. He actually responded to my questions. I mean, he did lie a little bit,

00:37:09.360 but at least he was talking about the context and the subject matter of each individual

00:37:13.040 question that I asked instead of being asked about, you know, his inability to spend 2%

00:37:18.740 on, uh, defense when NATO's asking him to, and then he starts talking about climate change,

00:37:23.280 uh, in the press conference. It's, it was a different side of Trudeau. And I think that that

00:37:27.300 caused some folks on the right to scratch their head and be like, wait, we've never seen this before.

00:37:32.680 This has never happened. And they kind of thought that it was impossible. Uh, it was a little bit

00:37:36.820 shocking, I think. And, you know, I was as shocked as the rest of them, honestly.

00:37:40.440 Yeah. Well, you've had 10 minutes with him and, uh, I don't think that he, uh, will let you do that

00:37:47.620 again. I think the next time he, I think he'll recognize you or remember you. Um, I wonder how

00:37:55.200 he will, he and the RCMP will treat you going forward because in one sense you had access to

00:38:02.380 him. You did not abuse it. You didn't raise your voice, say anything insulting. You certainly didn't

00:38:08.040 try to put hands on him. Not that you would, but, but you comported yourself well. Your questions

00:38:14.720 were reasonable. They were not actually, they were not atrocious. They were not deeply personal

00:38:20.400 questions as one could have asked him. Uh, one could have asked him about many of his personal

00:38:25.820 scandals that he's glossed over over the years from his black face to his sexual assault of Rose

00:38:31.040 Knight in Creston, BC. You stuck to more current, uh, controversy. So it'll be interesting to see

00:38:37.320 how you personally and your organization, the counter signal is treated by the RCMP. I, I get

00:38:43.400 the feeling they're going to harden their hearts to you now that they sort of have you on their watch

00:38:47.560 list. Yeah. Well, you know what, we're certainly not going to change the questions that we ask in

00:38:53.000 order to get access. I know that that's what the Globe and Mail does to survive. I know that's what

00:38:57.780 the CBC does so that they keep their $1.5 billion budget. Um, you know, access, we don't,

00:39:03.620 we've proven we don't need the same access that they need. Uh, we will continue to access Justin

00:39:09.680 Trudeau and public places and other politicians of note, uh, when they're on a public beach, um,

00:39:15.140 protected by public security. And when they control the military of a G7 country, they will be held

00:39:20.260 accountable no matter where they are, no matter how many times they try to arrest us for attending a

00:39:24.740 press conference. We're not going to stop. Uh, and you know, I would love it if they let me in,

00:39:29.260 but we're not going to start asking easy questions in order to do that. Well, listen,

00:39:33.380 it's great to catch up with you. Congratulations, folks. You can see the entire unredacted video

00:39:38.900 by going to support the signal.com and signing up. It's, uh, there's an, there's an offer. I signed

00:39:47.320 up just the other day myself is five bucks to get going. And then I think it's a little more

00:39:51.180 on a monthly basis support the signal.com and you know, um, there's a counter signal. There's true

00:39:58.720 north. There's Western standard. There's rebel news. There's epoch times. And I think I've just

00:40:05.440 named the only independent journalists in the country. And I think it's maybe 1% of the manpower

00:40:14.840 of the rest of the media party. But I put it to you that if your news diet contains the five

00:40:20.640 independent media sources, I just listed to you, you will learn more about the world than people

00:40:25.660 who just have their radio knob tuned into the CBC for that unlistenable crap every day.

00:40:32.240 Kian, great to see you. Congratulations. Look forward to the next caper.

00:40:36.000 Thanks, Ezra. It's great to be back on rebel. You're doing great work yourself.

00:40:39.260 Well, thanks very much. There you have it. Kian Bexty. He's the boss of the counter signal.

00:40:42.580 You can find him at support the signal.com. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.

00:40:50.640 Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me, Mr. Billy says,

00:41:02.240 these pro-Hamas characters go beyond peaceful protests. The law should apply to everyone equally.

00:41:07.980 That's exactly right. The U.S. Constitution talks about peaceful assembly. We have similar laws in

00:41:14.040 Canada, but the police have a double standard, don't you think? I mean, compare in Canada the way

00:41:19.540 the pro-Hamas protesters are handled versus the truckers. And in the States, compare how the

00:41:26.660 vandalism and rioting of yesterday's Netanyahu visit was treated versus the January 6th insurrection.

00:41:34.800 Let Freedom Reign Honk says, my concern about the Netanyahu visit was the bugs and maggots left by a crazy

00:41:42.920 pro-Hamas. How did they get in to do that? And what else could they have done? You're so right.

00:41:48.240 That was super gross. And that is a biohazard, obviously. And as you know, as has been reported

00:41:54.700 multiple times by different sources, a lot of these protests in North America are funded and

00:41:59.980 directed by Iran. These are not random ideas. That is a pretty revved up idea. It's a biological

00:42:06.980 weapon idea. And you're right. If they can do that, what else can they do? Can they get to Netanyahu's

00:42:13.460 food in the Watergate Hotel? I thought that was super gross and very troubling. That's our show for

00:42:20.260 today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:42:25.220 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - July 25, 2024

EZRA LEVANT ｜ America sounds the alarm on Canada's Hamas threat

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