EZRA LEVANT ｜ An update on my travels — and a heavy discussion about the war in Ukraine
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Rebel News Plus is a video version of the Rebel News Network's flagship podcast, Rebel News Radio. In this episode, host Ezra Levant provides an update on his travels, and his thoughts on the latest in the Ukraine crisis.
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Hello, my rebels. I have some thoughts about the war in Ukraine. Frankly, I'm getting a little bit
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scared about it. I feel like we've never been this close to a nuclear war, at least not since
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the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think things are escalating. And the trouble is, Russia,
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even though it's floundering and having some setbacks militarily, it's run by an authoritarian
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leader who has nuclear weapons. And for 80 years, we've had a mutually assured destruction
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a theory where we won't attack them and they won't attack us because the price would just be
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too high. Does that theory not hold water anymore? Are we really going to escalate a war
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against a nuclear power? I'll take you through the latest news and my thoughts on it. I'm a little
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worried, I have to tell you. Before I get to that, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel
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watching, go to rebelnewsplus.com. All right, here's today's show.
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Tonight, an update on my travels and a heavy discussion about the war in Ukraine. It's October 11th
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Great to see you again. Great to be back in our world headquarters. You know, I've been traveling
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a little bit lately. I've been traveling mainly within Canada. Last week, for example, I went out
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to Calgary for the United Conservative Party leadership announcement. Danielle Smith winning
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with about 54% of the vote. She's the premier designate of Alberta, taking a bit of a sovereignty
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line, something we've heretofore only seen from the province of Quebec. I find it very interesting.
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One of the reasons I'm hopeful, I said Danielle Smith, despite her flaws, has focused on a freedom
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message, including repudiating some of the lockdowns and the bullying that has characterized,
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well, frankly, every government in this country over the past two years. But Alberta in particular,
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you may know we have a petition right now at lockdownamnesty.com. We hope to hold Danielle
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Smith to her promise of dropping the lockdowns. There are very few lockdowns still in place,
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few pandemic rules still in place in Alberta, but the government is still prosecuting tickets and
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charges that were handed out during the lockdown. For example, and I'll tell you a little bit more
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about this in a moment, Arthur Pavlovsky was in trial today for a lockdown offense that happened
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over a year ago. So although the lockdowns are no longer issuing new charges and tickets,
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they're still going through all their old victims. We hope and expect Danielle Smith will act on her
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promise to undo that. In addition to covering news, I've been going to a little fundraising get-togethers
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for Rebel News. I've been to, I think, 16 cities in six or seven provinces over the last little while,
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all the way from Vancouver on the west to, I think, Montreal is the furthest east. I've been
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just reconnecting with our people since so many of us have been under a form of lockdown.
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In fact, few of us could even fly within Canada domestically until a few months ago when Trudeau
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decided to give us that liberty back. I'm heading back west tomorrow for the release of our latest
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documentary. It's called Ungovernable. It's about Alberta separatism, Alberta's ungovernable nature.
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And I love the fact that it was made by Kian Simone, who's a transplanted Torontonian who moved west
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and has sort of discovered the nature of that province. Here's a quick trailer of the movie,
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which you can see for yourself at albertadocumentary.com. Here's the trailer for Ungovernable.
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It's the values. You look at Western values in Western society, and these are values we could all
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relate to, but they're old world values of grit and community and perseverance.
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It's a place where you can make a living with your back and your hands and a little bit of hard
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work, and it's a place of opportunity. And I think as Albertans, we're fiercely protective of that.
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The world's energy crisis has been grabbing newspaper headlines. In a nutshell, we're running short of
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petroleum resources, and the prices are zooming upwards. My colleagues in the government and I
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have come reluctantly to believe that the price of oil in Canada must go up.
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This was Alberta. Origin of the Alberta separatist movement begins with the election of Pierre Trudeau
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as prime minister. It was a deliberate and malicious targeting in the west, which suited
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Pierre Trudeau just fine, just like it suits Justin Trudeau just fine.
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Sunny ways, my friends. Blackface. There is an actual hostile government towards Alberta.
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Why did your dad give everyone in Western Canada the middle finger?
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Really, in politics, you do have to make big decisions, and whenever you make big decisions,
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there's going to be people who agree with it and people who don't disagree with it.
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It's not the kind of idea you'd expect to hear from someone who wants to win power and hold power.
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And you would normalize the discussion, and so maybe Alberta wouldn't have to go,
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because maybe the rest of the country and the rest of the world would say,
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whoa, don't go. Will you accept these changes instead?
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There's no maple leafs west of the Manitoba borders.
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Why do we want, why do we have a maple leaf by unilateral decision on Canadian flags?
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Think of how the American colonists were in 1775.
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Very exciting. I'll be there in Calgary tomorrow night.
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We're playing it in a real cinema, the Canyon Meadows Theatres,
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and we're going to have a little red carpet style get-together beforehand.
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I've been out to that same theater for other movies we've done, for example,
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Kamloops, The Buried Truth, a documentary by Matt Brevner.
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So we've got a lot of documentaries going on these days,
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and I'm happy for our team doing that new form of storytelling,
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I hope you're enjoying when Sheila or David fill in for me,
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but I am aware that I'm out there, but I tell you it's for work.
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Over the weekend, Thanksgiving weekend here in Canada,
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I actually went on my first trip outside Canada in nearly three years,
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my first foreign trip, I went to Scotland, of all places.
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One of the things I did was I met this youngster, Callum Smiles.
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He's our newest reporter in the United Kingdom.
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Here, let me play for you a little hello video.
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I did meeting Callum for the first time in a wonderful little town in Scotland called Stonehaven.
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Well, the work you're doing, you're up here with me in Scotland to cover the case of Gabby Burnett,
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whose house was stormed without a search warrant by police almost two years ago.
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which is that the mainstream media in the U.K. is just as much a media party,
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just as much in sync with the regime as in Canada.
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There might be a few more exceptions, like the new GB News TV station.
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There are a few interesting individuals left in the U.K.,
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but the vast majority of reporters seem to be bland, regime-narrative, woke repeaters more than reporters.
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There seems to be this willful neglect of the little man.
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So I've shown people around the country before coming up here when they said,
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And I told them about Gabby Burnett, and they said, who's Gabby Burnett?
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It's shown in the video, and they all have that same heart-throbbing shock
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to think not only could this happen in our country, but that it can be kept so quiet.
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Well, I didn't make my journey to Scotland just to say hi to Callum, though that was fun.
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I was there because we have one of our Fight the Fines cases in Scotland.
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As you know, the Democracy Fund handles most of the Fight the Fines cases here in Canada, 2,100 of them.
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But the Democracy Fund only operates within Canadian borders.
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So we have a couple of cases in the UK, both of them in Scotland,
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and we have some cases in Australia that Rebel News itself takes care of.
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I want to tell you the story about Gabby Burnett.
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This video I showed you the other day, I just want to show you again.
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Actually, let me play for you a little bit of my conversation
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with Gabby Burnett and her little brother Luke,
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They wouldn't help her, and they stopped her brother and her mother from helping her.
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And to add insult to interjury, they're actually prosecuting her.
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It's an 11-and-a-half-minute video that I recorded over there in Aberdeen.
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But I'm going to play a couple minutes for you.
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I want to show you, first of all, the violent police invasion, the home invasion, really.
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And second of all, a bit of my chat with Gabby and her brother Luke.
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You can see the whole thing at standwithgabby.co.uk.
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Here's a little bit of what I was doing in Scotland.
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I was in Canada. I was far away. I had never been to Scotland until today. I had never met you or
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heard of you. I saw that video and I was enraged. We're not just here to tell the story of what
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happened. We're here to fight back. We have crowdfunded a lawyer to defend you in court
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and we'll talk about that in a minute. But Callum Smiles and I want to talk about what happened
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that day. Callum, you've watched that video. What would you want to ask Gabby and Luke?
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And we'll talk to Luke who is there observing. Because the world has only seen from when you
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started the camera. We don't know exactly what happened beforehand. So in your own words,
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what exactly happened that day? Well, that day, it was just a normal day. We're obviously all
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bored because of lockdown and that. I'd been going through some stuff. So my mum was looking
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after me. I was all tired and everything. I was just chilling with my little brother. I think my
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mum was through the house with her friend. I think they had a bottle of wine or something. Maybe had
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some music on. Not very loud or anything, just like everyone does. And then we had that knock to the
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door. And they were questioning my mum about who she had in the house and about coming into the house
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to check who she had in the house. And she obviously wasn't up for that because we've done
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nothing wrong. And, you know, there's no reason for them to be coming into our house. They had no
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warrant. And then from then I thought it's getting a bit loud and a bit too, you know, a bit too much.
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So I'll get my phone and record it because my little brother's there as well, which I'm worried
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about obviously. And then I went through to say, I'll give you my mum's details. And as I said that,
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that's when I got tackled to the ground in front of my little brother and my head smacked off of
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something and had a seizure. So you had a seizure. They burst in the home, no search warrant. They
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pushed their way in. How many of them were there? There was two stands at the door and I'm sure there
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was two on the stairs as well. They pushed their way in. And your brother, Luke, you're 11 now. How old
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were you back then? Were you nine or 10? 10. And, you know, I'm talking to you with your sister's
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permission. It's not my practice to talk to young kids on camera, but you were there not just as a
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witness, but as a family member. And I don't want to ask you prickly questions, but what was it like
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seeing your mum being tackled this way by cops? Scary. And I think you were crying, were you?
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Yeah. He was crying and he was all loud and, oh my God, oh my God, someone, get her, get her,
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someone, get her, someone. You know, he was totally in a state. So were you worried more about the cops
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or about your mum's, I'm sorry, your sister's seizure? Sister's seizure. Did the cops help her at all
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with the seizure? No. So that trial may or may not proceed tomorrow. It's sort of up in the air,
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but Callum Smiles will be there either way. I'm really excited about the lawyer we've mustered,
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the law firm in Scotland. I, this was just coincidence. I didn't know this till later.
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The law firm in Scotland and the lawyer, Callum Anderson, that we hired actually was the lawyer for
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the first minister of Scotland. That's what they call their sort of prime minister there. So serious law
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firm, very serious, high powered, smart guys. And I'm very excited about that because there's
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simply no way that a working class woman like Gabby, who's only 20, could possibly fight back
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against the unlimited resources of the Scottish police on her own. So I was glad to be over there.
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And we do have one more case in Scotland and I think that's it for the UK. It's actually terrible
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in its own way. This was atrocious because the home invasion and Gabby had a seizure and the police
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didn't help her and banned the other family members. It's just so terrible. But the other
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case we have is the case of Patty Hogg, who was at the time a city councillor in Lanarkshire,
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which is near Glasgow. He was a skeptic of the lockdown. And so he had a peaceful outdoor
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protest in the city. Police charged him. And one of the things they charged him with was a heavy
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crime called reckless endangerment. That's the kind of thing you get charged with if you do something
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insane, like standing on an overpass, dropping bricks on cars below, or I suppose driving drunk
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through a playground or something. Reckless endangerment, a shocking crime. What did Patty
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Hogg do? Well, by encouraging other people to protest outdoors at City Hall, they said, oh,
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he was recklessly endangering them. He could have murdered them by the COVID virus. I don't even know
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if there's been a single case of a confirmed outdoor transmission in history, but they so hate Patty
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Hogg and the fact that he dared have another opinion. They are charging him. He was a sitting
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city councillor at the time. Imagine that. You're an elected politician elected to politic. You go to
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your place of the legislature to protest, and they charge you not just with some nuisance or mischief or
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trespass or a ticket, but with a shocking crime like reckless endangerment. So Patty Hogg is our
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second case there. Obviously, 99% of our Fight the Fines cases are here in Canada, but I thought that
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would be a fun first trip outside the country. Fun, but I can assure you it was a working trip, as you
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can see. I'm going to talk a little bit more about Fight the Fines and Arthur Pawlowski's case today,
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but I want to tell you that most of our team at Rebel News is unjabbed. Now, we don't care if
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you're jabbed or unjabbed. As far as I'm concerned, that's a personal choice everyone can make for
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themselves. We have jabbed and unjabbed people at Rebel News, and we never inquired, and we never
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violated people's privacy, but I happen to know that a number of our folks were unjabbed.
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And between that and foreign countries' rules and Trudeau's bans, we really didn't leave the country
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much. Now, that was okay insofar as the story was here. We had to cover the lockdowns in Canada.
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We had to cover the Canadian reaction, and we were very busy from coast to coast. Alexa Lavoie
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in Quebec, Drea Humphrey in Vancouver, so many journalists in between those two places. We
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really had a lot of work. But now that Trudeau has finally dropped his unscientific
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vendetta against the unvaxxed, some of our journalists, who you've gotten to know for their
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domestic coverage, are going to be making trips to foreign countries. For example, coming up
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in just a week, we are sending a crew of five people to the United Nations World Health Organization
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Summit in Berlin. That's starting October 16th. That's the largest gathering of the WHO.
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In fact, it's their only in-person gathering in three years. We're sending five people to cover
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it, including Alexa, who's going to cover it in French. I think it's going to be very
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important. There's going to be delegates from up to 200 countries there. Obviously, we're
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going to keep our eye peeled for the Anthony Fauci's and Theresa Tam's of the world. But
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I'm very curious to talk to people from the third world, to talk to people from Africa,
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the least vaxxed country, which happens to have the lowest COVID mortality rate. Isn't that
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interesting? If possible, I'd like to talk to a delegate from China. Why has that country
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refused to inject its citizens with mRNA vaccines? Isn't that weird? I want to talk to people from
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India, because India said to Pfizer, sure, you can sell your drug here, but we want to do
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clinical trials. We want to see them. And Pfizer said, no, thanks. So there's a lot of questions I
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would put through our reporters to delegates from other places around the world. I'm not just
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interested in talking to Canadian and American delegates. It's going to be very interesting. And
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covering the media, covering the World Health Organization is going to be interesting too.
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So we've got a big delegation. You can see that at rebelwho.com. There's an interesting event we're
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doing in another part of the world, in Buenos Aires, the C40 World Mayors Conference. What is
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that, you say? It's a globalist meeting of mayors. They're meeting in Buenos Aires, outside the prying
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eyes of journalists, outside the democratic accountability of their own city councils,
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and they're hatching their plans. It's almost like it's out of a Bond movie. It's not a democratic
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organization. It's not voted on by your and me. But these world mayors get together, and they have,
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it's like their own mini world economic forum. So we're sending two journalists down there. I'm very
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excited about it. You know, one thing we used to do every year at Rebel News was cover the UN Global
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Warming Conference, technically called the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change.
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We did send a small team last year to Glasgow. This year, it's in Egypt. We are sending six
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journalists. We love to cover those because we care about oil and gas. We care about junk science.
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And we want to show the hypocrisy of all the politicians flying in with their private jets
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and telling us to take a bike or to walk. But they'll be there in their huge
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escalades and Yukons, air-conditioned in that desert heat. It's going to be
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fascinating. And then the final trip we've got coming is our trip to the World Economic Forum,
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and they're meeting in Davos, Switzerland, in January 2023. And I plan to go to that one too,
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myself. So we're doing these trips because we've been cooped up for two years. We're doing them also
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because they're very relevant to Canadians. Because I put it to you, more decisions are made at this
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list of events I've just told you about. None of them democratic. None of them have the kind of
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transparency and scrutiny that our own Canadian legislatures have. But I put it to you, more
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decisions will be made at those conferences I've just outlined than will be made by Parliament.
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Now, earlier I mentioned the Scottish cases. Gabby Burnett, who's in court tomorrow, Patty Hogg,
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who's in court coming up later. Well, I mentioned them, and it just so happens that earlier today,
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we had a huge win in court in Calgary by our very first Fight the Fines client, Arthur Pavlovsky.
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I'll tell you more about it. I'm hoping to interview our reporter on the scene, Celine
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Glass, who was live tweeting the hearing and who had the news the moment he was acquitted today.
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But basically, Arthur Pavlovsky went to pick up his mail in the post office. He had a medical
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exemption to not wear a mask, and they refused to serve him. And not just that, they called the cops on
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him. But the case totally fell apart in court today. There was no evidence that Arthur did
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anything wrong. They made up a bunch of lies about him. Oh, he was rude. He swore. I have heard Arthur
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Pavlovsky use strong language, strong words like, get out, get out. But I have never in my life heard
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him swear. I actually don't think he swears. I think it's sort of a religious thing for him.
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So they had all these false accusations. And the police and the prosecutors were able to
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prove none of them. And so he was acquitted. But let's be honest, it wasn't about him being
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guilty. It was about the government of Alberta's ongoing vendetta against him. And believe me,
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he has plenty more trials to come. They're still pursuing him. The province of Alberta,
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Danielle Smith, is now the premier designate of Alberta. I told you she won her leadership just
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last week. But the province of Alberta, the bureaucrats, the lawyers, the Justice Department
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are still hunting down lockdown skeptics like Arthur Pavlovsky. That's why we insist that she
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keep her promise and have an amnesty for everyone like Arthur. So that's what's going on. I've been
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traveling a bit, but I wanted to explain to you, it's not vacations. I have not actually had a
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family vacation since 2019. I'm going to go away this Christmas break for the first time with the
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family in a long time. It'll be good. I wanted to explain to you that I'm either working on news
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stories like I was doing in Edinburgh and Aberdeen, or that I was meeting with rebel supporters across
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the country to raise funds for rebel news, which is sort of my job. But I have to tell you that over
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the last few days, I've seen troubling news about the war in Ukraine. And when I saw the images of
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the mighty Kerch Bridge, that's the bridge that Russia built connecting Russia to Crimea, which is a
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multi-billion dollar bridge. It's a rail bridge and an automobile bridge. And it's not just a strategic
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piece of infrastructure. It is a full of political pride for Vladimir Putin. He personally inaugurated
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the bridge. When I saw that that bridge was destroyed, I wouldn't even call it a military
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attack because it was not by jet fighters or a missile boat or anything like that. It was a truck
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bomb, frankly, terrorist style. I think that's what you'd have to call it. And in fact, it sounds like
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the driver of the truck did not know what he was driving. Ukrainian authorities took credit for the
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explosion, which I suppose means they take the blame for killing the man who was in the truck and
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those who were blown up by it. I found that shocking and audacious and bold. And I suppose it's the kind
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of thing when you do when you are in a total war. But I'm deeply worried about the reaction that may come
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from Russia. This comes on the heels of another dramatic attack against Russian infrastructure,
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the explosion of their Nord Stream undersea natural gas pipeline, which was detonated by a
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massive trove of explosives. No one has definitively taken credit or blame by that. But I think the
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conventional wisdom is that something so sophisticated and so major could only have been done by a government
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entity. And the list of governments whose militaries could pull that off is quite limited. And then
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there's just that little video of Joe Biden saying, don't you worry that pipeline, we can take it out
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of commission if we want. Here's Joe Biden saying that a few months ago. If if Russia invades, that means
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tanks or troops crossing the the border of Ukraine again, then there will be we there will be no longer
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a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it. But how will you how will you do that?
00:26:31.280
Exactly. Since the project and control of the project is within Germany's control.
00:26:37.240
We will. I promise you, we'll be able to do it. So I was getting nervous. I mean, I was nervous when
00:26:42.640
that Nord Stream pipeline was blown up. I'm nervous when the Russian bridge was blown up because these
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things are they're brilliant tactical victories on the part of Ukraine or or if it's the United States
00:26:55.600
or the CIA or or mercenaries. We don't quite know who's done these things. They're brilliant. They're
00:27:00.640
devastating. Absolutely. And it seems like Ukraine and whatever other militaries are operating there.
00:27:06.600
We know, for example, the CIA confirmed to The New York Times that they are on the ground
00:27:11.100
in Ukraine, helping direct the use of the modern weaponry. Russia is having setbacks and it's
00:27:18.620
actually retreating in some parts. But that scares me because unlike a traditional or conventional foe,
00:27:25.640
Russia still has nuclear weapons and an angry, embarrassed, humiliated, rebuked Vladimir Putin
00:27:33.460
still has access to those nuclear weapons, whether it's a tactical nuclear weapon in the theater of war
00:27:39.980
or something else. I'm getting a little nervous about it. And I see that the bellicosity has come to
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Canada. Let me start by showing you this terrifying video by Vladimir Zelensky, the former actor who is
00:27:53.540
now the president of Ukraine. Here he is calling for NATO countries to proactively attack Russia itself.
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He wants NATO to attack Russia. He wants to end the 80 years of mutually assured destruction,
00:28:14.880
you know, the architecture of deterrence, of mutual deterrence. He says NATO should attack Russia.
00:28:23.840
Take a look at this. How do you feel about this?
00:28:29.420
To enable the use of the use of the nuclear weapons.
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But what is important, I will return to the international community.
00:28:41.620
To preventive attacks, so they knew what will happen if they will use them.
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It makes me nervous when someone who is a serious person, the president of Ukraine, who obviously has the ear of many western leaders,
00:29:17.160
is calling on NATO countries to attack a nuclear-armed Russia.
00:29:25.640
Well, here's Justin Trudeau tweeting in reaction to a Russian attack that he stands loyally by Ukraine
00:29:41.620
This is new for Justin Trudeau, I should remind you.
00:29:44.780
Justin Trudeau used to hate the military just like his old man.
00:29:48.560
You might recall that very shortly after Trudeau became prime minister in 2015,
00:29:52.440
he withdrew our CF-18s from the war against ISIS, something that the U.S. and Obama in particular asked him not to do.
00:30:02.500
The president of the United States, Barack Obama, said,
00:30:04.600
please do not withdraw your fighter jets from the war on ISIS.
00:30:10.060
In fact, I don't know if you remember this clip, he was asked by CBC's Don Newman about what role Canada's military should play.
00:30:19.180
And he made this joke about generals who wanted to whip out their CF-18s and show you how big they were.
00:30:27.200
You referenced Jean Chrétien in the second Iraq war where he said, the proof is the proof is the proof.
00:30:33.760
And then he said, I don't see the proof, so we're not going.
00:30:36.400
But also in the first Iraq war, 1991, the Liberal Party at first was going to oppose the CF-18s,
00:30:46.580
which were actually flying a non-combat role, but they were flying patrol over the Persian Gulf.
00:30:51.260
And then they reversed their position, and they did it basically for politics.
00:30:56.620
And I'm wondering, if you think Mr. Harper wants you to vote against the resolution because he thinks that's to his political advantage,
00:31:04.580
are you not playing into his hands if even on a principled matter, and I take the principles,
00:31:11.120
and I think they're very important ones, but at the same time, politics is politics,
00:31:14.500
and on a principled matter, you may have to put water in your wine and think, what are the political consequences of this?
00:31:23.660
In a room like this, it's easy to say politics is politics, and we have to do this.
00:31:29.360
And that's one of the problems that happens in rooms like this in the Ottawa bubble.
00:31:35.760
We think about tactical angles and, you know, how we might look to the press gallery or what our opponents might say about us.
00:31:47.000
And that, quite frankly, has led Canadian politics to being in the position of having a record level of disenfranchised, disinterest, cynical voters.
00:31:57.720
I'm sorry. Leadership moments are not about making the easy decision that goes along with things.
00:32:05.800
It's about taking a stand on the values and the principles.
00:32:08.800
And if there's anything the Liberal Party should have learned over the past years,
00:32:13.580
it's that Canadians need to know where we stand, and Canadians need to trust us.
00:32:27.680
You still want to see the proof is the proof is the proof?
00:32:29.720
Or have you pretty well made up your mind that it would be better for us to stay in a non-combat role?
00:32:34.520
I haven't made up my mind, but the onus is on Mr. Harper to demonstrate that a shift from a non-combat role
00:32:42.320
that we've established right now to a combat role is the right thing for Canada, the right thing for Canadians,
00:32:49.760
but also the right thing for the international community.
00:32:54.280
There are an awful lot of things that Canada can and should be doing.
00:32:57.900
I mean, think about Canada's reputation around the world and what we've done around refugees,
00:33:02.420
whether it be the Vietnamese boat people, whether it be the Ismailis in Uganda, in East Africa,
00:33:13.820
whether it be, even more recently, the Tamil community fleeing a civil war in Sri Lanka.
00:33:22.260
Canada has been a place that draws in and helps refugees in a significant and serious way.
00:33:30.680
Now, in this situation, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of displaced peoples in the region
00:33:35.380
who aren't looking to all, you know, leave the region.
00:33:40.020
They need support to get through this very, very difficult time.
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Canada has a capacity and an expertise in doing just that.
00:33:49.780
Why aren't we talking more about the kind of humanitarian aid that Canada can and must be engaged in
00:33:55.320
rather than, you know, trying to whip out our CF-18s and show them how big they are?
00:34:00.020
You know, it just doesn't work like that in Canada.
00:34:03.680
It's quite something for someone who was so anti-war, anti-war to the point of undermining our largest ally,
00:34:12.760
There's something quite startling about Trudeau being so bellicose and belligerent.
00:34:17.460
I mean, Trudeau, I saw this statistic, Trudeau's emissaries and diplomats have met countless times with the Taliban
00:34:30.280
I usually see that, and it's juxtaposed with the fact that Trudeau refused to meet the truckers at all,
00:34:41.940
He'll suck up to ISIS, even returning ISIS terrorists.
00:34:45.140
He says a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.
00:34:53.620
You know, he calls China the country he most admires.
00:35:05.460
It's startling for Trudeau in particular, who, I don't know if you would call him a peacenik,
00:35:10.500
but he was certainly anti-war and against our allies.
00:35:15.800
And I put it to you, it's out of character for Canada as well.
00:35:18.160
Do you remember once upon a time we were known for peacekeeping and occasionally even for peacemaking?
00:35:23.760
I don't think we've seen the word peace coming from any world leader recently.
00:35:30.260
Now, I should tell you that when Justin Trudeau says he's all for war against Russia,
00:35:36.980
I don't know if he actually means it, because Canada's contribution to Ukraine has been extremely modest.
00:35:43.080
His contribution to Vladimir Putin has been much larger.
00:35:46.500
You might recall that Trudeau announced with great fanfare a list of sanctions against Russia and Putin's inner circle.
00:35:53.760
And he immediately amended those sanctions so he could have Russian natural gas turbines
00:35:59.460
shipped to Montreal to be serviced there, to be maintained there, before sending them back.
00:36:07.640
Trudeau literally fixed the turbines that will sell Gazprom's natural gas to Europe
00:36:13.080
that is holding Europe hostage, but he will not sell Canadian natural gas to Europe.
00:36:20.080
He actually said there's no business case for it.
00:36:25.460
You've got a warmonger who's anti-Putin publicly, but he's sort of a Putin collaborator economically.
00:36:37.280
So he has the photo ops about how tough he is with Putin, but he's actually doing more favors for Putin
00:36:43.300
by A, fixing Putin's natural gas industry, and B, refusing to let Canadians sell.
00:36:48.140
But I think things are getting very serious now.
00:36:52.100
I think that the talk about nuclear war is being normalized.
00:36:58.020
Here's a global warming expert saying, hey guys, this whole nuclear war thing,
00:37:17.860
The Crimean Bridge blown up, the pipeline blown up, and one of Putin's close allies named
00:37:24.140
Alexander Dugan, his daughter Daria Dugan, was assassinated.
00:37:37.620
And it feels like the kind of thing, frankly, designed to provoke Vladimir Putin to overreact, to overrespond.
00:37:45.380
Now, after the attack on the Crimean Bridge, Putin's military did launch a barrage of missile attacks on Ukraine.
00:37:55.480
And that certainly got a lot of media coverage.
00:37:58.580
But when I saw some of the footage, it's very hard to get footage from Ukraine.
00:38:01.700
It's very hard to know what's real and what's disinformation.
00:38:04.700
But frankly, it looked a little bit, it reminded me of the U.S. tactic of shock and awe
00:38:12.260
when the U.S. military first attacked Baghdad after 9-11.
00:38:17.460
Let me give you a reminder of, sorry, it was not 9-11.
00:38:26.620
The shock and awe tactic of scaring and breaking the confidence in Baghdad.
00:38:33.420
Here's what Baghdad looked like during shock and awe.
00:38:36.120
Here's the initial identification of the United States in the U.S.
00:38:50.100
You two were given up to the tempest ofication.
00:38:53.160
Perhaps some people were stripped of Baghdad, almost certainly some people at the time.
00:38:57.840
That was the last' hint of recognizing my common Me wasn't just as far as until there was an variant,
00:39:33.940
Here's what the Russian missile attack on Kiev and other places looked like.
00:39:38.400
It looks like some people were bloodied and obviously some people were killed.
00:39:41.780
But frankly, I don't know if I would call it devastating, at least these images.
00:39:48.420
And I'm sure tens of thousands of Ukrainians and civilians have been killed.
00:39:52.980
But, you know, here was a pro-Ukrainian video montage.
00:39:57.040
And the bridge they showed destroyed was like one of those tourist glass bridges, the kind of bridge you have to be courageous to walk on because the floor was glass.
00:40:07.040
It actually felt like it was a shock and awe move designed to scare more than to kill en masse.
00:40:16.880
It's hard to know because there's so much censorship and so much propaganda.
00:40:20.960
But what I see officially from the West does scare me.
00:40:26.280
I see, for example, the video of Joe Biden promising that that pipeline will not proceed and later it gets blown up.
00:40:35.120
I see in reaction to this missile strike, Joe Biden announcing that he will indeed send advanced American anti-air missiles to defend Ukraine.
00:40:49.500
And that probably would shoot down some of those missiles.
00:40:52.620
But Ukrainians don't know how to use these advanced American systems.
00:40:59.120
And I suppose that could happen, that they train Ukrainian soldiers for months how to use them.
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But I think it's just as likely that Americans would operate them.
00:41:09.540
I mean, you can send an advanced missile system, but unless you're trained on it, you don't know how to use it.
00:41:15.360
Is Joe Biden going to give them the missiles and then train them and have them ready sometime in 2023?
00:41:20.960
Or did he mean what I think he meant, which is that he's going to send the advanced anti-aircraft missiles and the Americans to run them?
00:41:32.200
Which is really an American no-fly zone, not a Ukrainian no-fly zone.
00:41:36.680
I mean, can I ask the obvious question that I think a child would ask?
00:41:42.360
Is Joe Biden telling American military forces to shoot down Russian aircraft?
00:41:52.860
Not just should Americans have a debate about that, but maybe Canada, the NATO allies.
00:41:59.060
I mean, are we going to declare war on the former Soviet Union?
00:42:07.560
Isn't that the thing that we were told was absolutely terrifying and would lead to mutually assured destruction for nearly a century?
00:42:15.520
Now, I agree, of course, that war is wrong, but there's no move to peace afoot.
00:42:32.160
Can Ukraine actually get a victory that doesn't involve some diplomacy?
00:42:37.500
How do you get a victory over a nuclear power as an opponent?
00:42:42.880
I understand that Ukraine has had great military support and financial support from the United States.
00:42:51.080
I understand that U.S. made weapons, many of them operated by U.S. CIA operatives or others,
00:42:57.260
have really helped turn things in Ukraine's favor in the last couple of months.
00:43:03.880
But can you really expect a total victory over a nuclear power, especially one whose authoritarian ruler has been publicly humiliated?
00:43:15.020
Blowing up that bridge over Crimea was shocking for sure.
00:43:18.740
But does Ukraine actually think they will reconquer Ukraine, which has been legally annexed to Russia?
00:43:29.240
And do they think Putin would allow that to happen without pushing the nuclear button?
00:43:36.280
Sometimes I'm told he's a maniac and unpredictable and he could be very dangerous.
00:43:43.280
And other times I'm told not to worry about the Russian military at all.
00:43:48.300
I just don't think that Ukraine can have a military victory over a nuclear armed Russia.
00:43:56.300
What's crazy in the West, both in the United States and Canada,
00:43:59.160
is that it is a nonpartisan, a bipartisan military industrial complex now.
00:44:07.520
Very few Republicans have spoken out against giving almost $100 billion worth of cash and weapons to Ukraine.
00:44:18.620
I see Pierre Polyev is vigorously denouncing Russia and supporting Ukraine.
00:44:26.680
But does every single party now support this war without a parallel track suing for peace?
00:44:34.580
I mean, if Justin Trudeau, of all people, is pro-war, is there anyone else left?
00:44:40.840
Have you heard a word from the peace parties of the left, from Jagmeet Singh, about maybe suing for peace?
00:44:51.660
If you're in the weapons business, these are boom times.
00:44:54.280
If you're in the oil business, the gas business, it's boom times.
00:44:57.740
If you're in the news business, you need something to sell clicks now that Donald Trump is gone.
00:45:03.260
Trouble is, Ukrainians are the ones in the meat grinder.
00:45:14.040
I got a question for you, and I asked this of a friend of mine who said that she would send her child to fight in Ukraine.
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And my friend is not Ukrainian, and I don't know if she was serious.
00:45:30.900
But I said, why Ukraine and not the other wars around the world?
00:45:35.500
There are many wars around the world at all times.
00:45:48.640
Should we, I don't know, engage in the war in Ethiopia?
00:45:55.320
Should we engage in the war in Yemen, in Afghanistan, in Mali?
00:46:03.340
Is the only reason why we're so supportive of the war in Ukraine?
00:46:07.840
Is it because we feel we've got Russia trapped and can grind them down?
00:46:14.420
Like, why are we not sending tens of billions of dollars to these other battles?
00:46:24.700
and I most certainly don't understand the advantage for Canada or the United States.
00:46:29.940
I want to say that asking these kinds of questions is not disloyalty,
00:46:38.160
despite what the disinformation czars at the University of Calgary say.
00:46:44.940
There used to be a tradition in Western democracies of having debates and votes before declaring war.
00:46:51.320
Certainly, that was the case in the world wars in Canada,
00:46:55.360
even when we weren't fully autonomous from the United Kingdom.
00:47:00.640
I think that we ought to have a debate and a vote.
00:47:03.280
I remember when Stephen Harper sent a small contingent of a couple of hundred Canadian forces
00:47:08.660
to the ill-advised war to replace Muammar Gaddafi,
00:47:13.060
the war that later gave birth to the modern slave trade,
00:47:16.040
the mass of refugees from North Africa into Europe and the rise of ISIS.
00:47:23.740
But even then, there was a debate in Parliament about it,
00:47:30.640
or did we sort of get rid of that old-fashioned notion and pass everything by order?
00:47:35.420
Maybe Theresa Tam can keep passing orders like she did about health.
00:47:39.520
Maybe she can just simply issue orders about wars.
00:47:42.120
What do we think about the atrocities committed by Russia?
00:47:50.000
But how do we feel about the atrocities carried on by Ukraine?
00:47:54.240
About the assassinations of family members of Putin's inner circle?
00:47:58.620
About the truck driver on the bridge who didn't know what he was driving and it was blown up?
00:48:05.380
That was a suicide truck, and I don't think the driver knew that was his role.
00:48:10.280
How do we feel about the abolition of opposition parties in Ukraine?
00:48:18.840
Vladimir Zelensky has shut down political parties that don't fully support him.
00:48:26.420
You know he was named in the Pandora Papers for having tens of millions of dollars in offshore accounts.
00:48:31.840
I don't think he's the role model for a democracy or for ethical and accountable government.
00:48:37.440
I think it's a place of oligarchs and corruption.
00:48:44.920
Can I understand what the Canadian interest is there?
00:48:52.800
Do we have to keep supporting a war until all of former Ukraine is returned, including Crimea?
00:49:02.800
It's sort of shocking and the kind of thing that you slow down like with a car crash to stare.
00:49:09.060
You can't help yourself when a bridge is blown up or a pipeline is blown up as long as it's someone else's bridge and pipeline.
00:49:15.540
How would we feel if, God forbid, one of our bridges or pipelines was blown up because we were part of the NATO allies that armed Vladimir Zelensky or even operated some of the weapons?
00:49:32.700
I feel like the world is closer to nuclear war now than at any time during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
00:49:45.380
Where's the parties of the left who were always for disarmament?
00:49:48.880
The activists like Trudeau was seven years ago when he mocked generals whipping out their CF-18s.
00:49:54.960
Or is the idea of dissent just completely gone again, another legacy of COVID?
00:50:09.340
In fact, I've criticized him so many times and written a powerful chapter in a book about him that now makes it impossible for me to visit that country.
00:50:16.340
The whole thesis of my two books, first Ethical Oil and then Groundswell, was that Canada had a special duty to produce as much oil and gas as possible to displace oil from OPEC and Russia to relieve their customers of the hostage situation they find themselves in.
00:50:33.840
If we had built the pipelines, including Energy East, all the way to New Brunswick, that would have allowed LNG tankers to fill up in New Brunswick and take that natural gas to places like Ukraine or Poland, I think Canada would have helped make the world a lot freer and would have removed the power that Vladimir Putin has over Europe.
00:50:59.280
I don't think that Justin Trudeau is actually an agent for Vladimir Putin, but really, if he was, what would he do differently?
00:51:07.020
Suppressing Canadian oil and gas, repairing Russian pipelines?
00:51:14.280
I find myself in an unusual position being someone who's against wars.
00:51:20.580
At the time, I thought the 9-11 wars were very justified.
00:51:23.980
I was delighted when Saddam Hussein was smashed by George Bush Sr.
00:51:29.320
Sometimes a war makes people feel artificially bold and confident.
00:51:34.060
That's just usually if you don't know anyone who's fighting it.
00:51:37.440
If it's far away, you can only read the exciting footage, stories, and see the exciting footage.
00:51:44.280
But I'm not sure how long this war will stay far away if Joe Biden says he's going to give high-tech American equipment,
00:51:51.060
and if Canada's saying it's going to be involved.
00:51:53.520
How long will this war just stay on our TV sets?
00:51:57.820
How long will it be until some of it comes home to us?
00:52:03.880
Asking basic questions about accountability and decision-making and national sovereignty and war and peace and justice,
00:52:11.360
that's called being a Canadian, and that's called being a Democrat and having a public policy debate.
00:52:18.320
I find it deeply troubling that there is no debate on these subjects,
00:52:21.560
and just like during the COVID era, everyone who's anyone seems to agree with each other.
00:53:02.780
And even though Danielle Smith is now the premier designate of Alberta,
00:53:07.560
it's the old regime of Jason Kenney and his lockdown laws that are still being prosecuted in the courts.
00:53:19.660
But the bureaucracy, the prosecutors, the police are still marching under the old orders.
00:53:24.780
And today, they took Arthur Pawlowski to court again, this time for a mask violation.
00:53:34.240
I didn't even know they prosecuted people for that.
00:53:41.120
And I was watching the live tweeting of that from our reporter, Celine Glass.
00:53:47.260
And when she said the verdict was issued, I couldn't contain myself.
00:53:59.540
It's a little noisy outside there, but it's very exciting to have Celine on location at the court of King's bench in Calgary.
00:54:11.840
This is the second big win in a row for Arthur Pawlowski.
00:54:18.520
Yeah, no, it was really exciting today to actually be there and to be able to live tweet, to be able to be there representing Rebel as well.
00:54:28.740
We have covered the case of Arthur Pawlowski really since it started in the spring of 2020.
00:54:37.680
I was talking to his lawyer, Sarah Miller, the other day.
00:54:39.900
I think this is like the 16th or 17th court hearing she's done for him that simply would be impossible for anyone who didn't have the resources of a crowdfunding campaign behind them.
00:54:53.460
Like literally you would have to be a multimillionaire or you would be crushed under the power of the government.
00:54:59.840
Tell me how many government people were there at the trial?
00:55:03.880
How many lawyers and police and witnesses, I bet they spent a half million dollars trying to get them today?
00:55:15.300
There was only, I believe it was just three witnesses.
00:55:20.740
He was the one that came after the couple of people at Shoppers Drug Mart.
00:55:26.140
He was there to answer that call and to go and talk to Arthur himself.
00:55:30.140
And then there was one of the managers and then the woman at the counter that refused to actually provide him his mail, even though he had a medical exemption for his mask.
00:55:39.280
So but again, what's really interesting is that originally this case was founded on him for a mask violation for being contrary to the bylaw at the time.
00:55:50.580
And it also came out from the store owner when asked further about the different signs that they would have had posted and whatnot, that they're actually pretty lenient at the time and that going forward that wouldn't stand with his his case.
00:56:03.320
So that was that that that case was dropped pretty quick, pretty, pretty, pretty quick, like in the beginning of the court proceedings this morning.
00:56:12.320
And then they started talking about how, you know, you can't film in there and, you know, there's signs everywhere.
00:56:17.460
And then it was actually just down at the very big.
00:56:26.620
But yeah, then it's just so happened that people.
00:56:33.740
So you're saying that there was a sign or something.
00:56:40.600
But it just ended up coming out again by the store owner that there was just a tiny little sticker in the window that, you know, it just was the camera with like the little the red circle with the cross through it, like no filming.
00:56:53.980
And at the very end, what this with this case was like founded on is and what the crown was grasping for the straws at the end.
00:57:01.460
And I was just trying to present any evidence regarding any evidence that had to do with the person at the front desk and her feelings and how she was, you know, personally offended by Archer because he had looked at her intimidatingly.
00:57:16.440
It was very strange because by the end of it, we were all very, very confused about what was going on and just what exactly this court case was founded on to start with.
00:57:26.080
Yeah, you know, I used to be a practicing lawyer.
00:57:29.480
I haven't done law in 15 years, I'm glad to say.
00:57:32.780
But I know and I don't think you have to be a lawyer to know that prosecutors only bring cases where, number one, it's in the public interest to do so.
00:57:44.160
And number two, where they have a reasonable likelihood of conviction.
00:57:55.360
And second of all, there's so much real work to do to go after a marginal case is just a waste of time.
00:58:03.960
This sounds, again, like an anti-Arthur Pavlovsky vendetta.
00:58:09.060
It sounds like they just threw everything at the wall.
00:58:20.020
I've never heard Arthur Pavlovsky say a swear in the entire time I've ever known him.
00:58:25.420
So, I mean, really what it came down to is they didn't like him.
00:58:35.820
Yeah, because you're being you're treating me in a bullying way.
00:58:39.440
It sounds I'm deeply embarrassed for the prosecutors and the police who put forward this case.
00:59:00.800
Was the judge exasperated by the it sounds like the case sort of evaporated before your very eyes?
00:59:06.200
I didn't have a chance to read all your live tweets.
00:59:08.880
So and I'm sure most of our viewers didn't either.
00:59:15.160
Could you tell by their face what they were thinking?
00:59:19.420
Exasperated is a really good way to put it, actually.
00:59:21.940
Unfortunately, I didn't catch the gentleman's name, but he was elder and he really did his due diligence.
00:59:27.120
He analyzed all of the different evidence that was that was brought up from both sides.
00:59:32.960
But it's just like you said, the it immediately started to be torn apart.
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The narrative that the Crown was trying to put together and an aim at Arthur Pawlowski very, very quickly.
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That started to evaporate as soon as he started to ask questions to the Crown.
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And, you know, I've I've watched a couple of these court proceedings.
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I've never actually seen a judge dismiss witnesses from the Crown so many times to actually question the Crown prosecutor and just kind of be like, you know, why are you asking these questions?
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There were quite a few times where he literally asked him.
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And it was very interesting because with Arthur Pawlowski, he has a lot of followers.
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The side of the courtroom that he was in was totally full of his supporters.
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And I mean, by the end of it, there was a couple of chuckles.
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Then even the judge didn't mind because he just seems so confused about what was going on.
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Because, again, they were just grasping for straws to try and persecute Pastor Arthur Pawlowski.
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Did he seem like he had he knew the Arthur Pawlowski file well or was he just thrown into it?
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Sounds like he had a bunch of goofy questions the judge didn't have time for.
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And I do not think that he was that he was able to tackle the saga that is Arthur Pawlowski.
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There's no way there was a couple of pieces of evidence that he tried to actually bring forward.
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But I learned so much each and every time that I'm there.
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The evidence that is initially given to the to the Crown to be able to look after so that, you know, both sides can be able to present them in front of the judge.
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And he was here trying to grasp at straws again, trying to show new things.
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And Sarah Miller stood up and was like, this has nothing to do with anything.
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And by the end of it, when she called for a verdict and the judge was ready to to give an answer, he asked her to go up and give her her ending statement.
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And then he politely asked her to sit down and was like, he basically said, you don't need to.
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But he was it was ruled that he was not guilty.
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I don't think the Crown could have done anything.
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Well, court was supposed to start at 9 a.m., but I believe that we started around 1030.
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And we were in there for probably an hour and a half.
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And then once the verdict was ruled out, there was a 10 minute break.
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And that's when he said that all the charges were dropped and that Arjipulowski was found not guilty.
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And tell me a little bit more about Sarah Miller.
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Was she there on her own or did she have another lawyer with her?
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Sarah Miller is the lawyer that the Democracy Fund hired to represent Arthur a year and a half ago.
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Like I say, she's been in court 16 or 17 times for Arthur since then.
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Was she on her own or did she have a colleague with her?
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And every single thing that the court brought up for her to go over in the cross-examination period, she was really quick to fire back and to deliver the facts really straight, cut clear, right to the point.
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You know, I've gotten to know Sarah a little bit over the last year and a half, as you know, she actually flew with Sheila Gunn-Reed to Geneva, Switzerland to lodge a human rights campaign against the Canadian government for the abuse of political prisoners.
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The way that the government and the police and other entities have treated peaceful protesters, Arthur Pavlovsky, Tamara Leach, etc.
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If these things were happening in Venezuela or Cuba, the U.N. Human Rights Council would investigate.
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And so Sarah Miller and Sheila went to Geneva, Switzerland to file that complaint there.
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And it just goes to show you, you got to sometimes stick with it.
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I mean, for the first year, Arthur Pavlovsky lost every single hearing he had.
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And I think it's because the the courts were they had covid mania.
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They don't circulate like they're not going to gyms or clubs or schools.
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They get paid no matter what they're you know, they're not going out to party at night.
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So, you know, in places like Quebec where they had a curfew, the judges really didn't care.
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But I think now two years into it, judges are sort of waking up.
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And Arthur Pavlovsky has had two important wins back to back.
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And I'm glad you were there and congrats to you on live tweeting a court case.
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And were there any other journalists in the courtroom?
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And all the other times that I've live tweeted from court, it's been the same thing.
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Rebel has been the only journalist in court every time.
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That goes to show that the media party, as I call it, they really have an official narrative.
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They have talked about Arthur Pavlovsky endlessly.
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But the mainstream media is actually obsessed with Arthur Pavlovsky.
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They just don't like to write about it when he wins.
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Like, you would think they would be in court today.
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And it goes to show that one of the powerful forms of censorship is when the regime media
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One form of censorship or bias is when they talk about things in an unfair way, smear people.
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But another form of censorship is when they just ignore the story.
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And that credit goes to Rebel News viewers who crowdfunded the League of Defense.
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Celine Glass in our Calgary office at the Court of Queen's Bench or Court of King's Bench,
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Roddy998 says, Danielle Smith is the best choice for the UCP to defeat the World Economic Forum, Soros-driven NDP.
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Yeah, it'll be very interesting to see how she does.
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I mean, I was talking to a lot of friends in political circles, and I'm just asking them,
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do you think she'll be for real, or do you think she's going to start to water things down?
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I think she's got a tough go of it because she immediately inherits a caucus and really material for her cabinet that were assembled by her predecessor, Jason Kenney.
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But she's going to have to get started, at least, with Jason Kenney's people.
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GGFD says, taking accountability for the past mistakes is a refreshing change.
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Trudeau et al. have music to face at the Emergency Act Review.
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I've been traveling throughout Canada, and I went to Scotland for two days.
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I am going to be in Ottawa for our truckercommission.com coverage.
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We're going to cover this thing for really six weeks straight, so I will be spending some time down there doing some journalism along with a lot of our team.
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And I think it's important that we're there because I know the regime media is going to try and revise history and make Trudeau the hero and the truckers the bad guys.
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We'll have to do our best to speak truth to power.
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I'll be in Calgary tomorrow night for the documentary, Ungovernable.
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The next day, I'm off to Ottawa for our trucker commission work.
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It's all work, my friends, and I love to do it.
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And thank you for, when I'm away, accepting with such a warm welcome, my colleagues, David and Sheila.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
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I'm Jeremy LaFredo for Rebel News in Burdenham, Pennsylvania at Miller's Organic Farm.
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Last month, we told you the story of how Miller's Farm was raided by armed federal agents and economically crippled with hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines.
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Now, as the seasons change, Miller's Farm is going toe-to-toe with the federal government to protect himself and independent farmers all over the country.
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My goal is to leave an example for the generations to come, so that future generations can farm like our grandfathers did.
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The way God wants us to be sustainable, without genetically modified seeds, without synthetic fertilizers, we just want to live off the land and take care of God's nature.
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Amos Miller is an independent organic farmer in Burdenham, a remote Amish village in central Pennsylvania.
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The farm has everything, pasture-raised, grass-fed cattle, to grass-fed raw dairy like yogurts, cheeses, and butters.
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The farm raises chickens, pigs, and even water buffalo.
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Everything is raised in pastures, without any pesticides, GMO feed, or synthetic hormones.
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It's these reasons, holistically grown organic meat and dairy, that people all over the country signed up to be a part of Miller's private food club.
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I think they want to have the connection to the farm, and they see the actual practices being done on the farm, and they trust the way we do things.
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They educate themselves, and they truly believe that food from grass-fed cows, access to sunshine and fresh air, does affect their overall health.
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But unfortunately, this is also the reason that the federal government, and all of its might, is coming after him.
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Several months ago, Amos' farm was raided by armed federal agents, the U.S. Marshals Service.
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They're also trying to economically cripple the independent farmer with hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines.
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The government says that Amos must cease operations because he doesn't adhere to the USDA standards, the very reason that so many of Amos' customers get their food from him.
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Amos argues that U.S. government food regulations exist chiefly to strip small organic producers of their independence.
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They're also financially intensive, making it so only the large producers are able to afford and stay in business.
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By cutting the government out of his operations, he's effectively cutting out the middleman.
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The government siphons money out of these small farms through expensive, quote, user fees.
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The government is using a health and safety justification to come after Miller's farm.
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According to U.S. Representative Thomas Massey, it's instead corrupt financial incentives that are behind it.
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He explained correctly that Amos is still able to sell camel milk and water buffalo meat.
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He said because there's no corporate camel milk lobby or industrial buffalo meat lobby embedded at the USDA or walking the halls of Congress with campaign checks.
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Meaning even though he processes all sorts of animal meat and dairy at the farm, the USDA is only concerned about the way in which he raises and processes cattle because they're funded by the animal-specific industry.
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More so, Amos and his customers argue that the USDA mandates food be processed and produced in ways that actually make the food less nutritious.
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Amos believes if they can bring down his operation under dubious reasoning and harmful regulations, other farmers will be next, putting the entire food system at stake of being transformed in the vision of the industry-backed government and WEF-aligned elites.
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Amos noted that over the past few years, more and more valuable independent farmers have been getting shut down by the government.
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Legally representing Amos is constitutional whiz and veteran lawyer Robert Barnes.
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Barnes explained to the Lancaster Patriot, a local newspaper in Amos' area, that, quote,
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This is about power. Who has the power to choose what I eat, what I put into my own body?
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It's an extension of the vaccine mandate dispute.
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It's an extension of a range of controversies currently raging across the country about the Constitution and our laws and the role of the federal government in our lives.
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Next week, Rebel is going to sit down with Robert Barnes for an exclusive interview and discuss what this case means for independent farmers, food sovereignty, bodily autonomy, and freedom in general.
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Please go to leavethemalone.com, that's leavethemalone.com, and sign our petition, which I'll be personally delivering to the federal court where Amos' case resides.
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For Rebel News in Burdenham, Pennsylvania, I'm Jeremy Lafredo.