EZRA LEVANT | As Canada returns to normal, what's next for Rebel News?
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Lockdowns are slowly easing around the world, and the rest of the country is slowly returning to normalcy. What do we do now that the lockdowns are lifting? What should we do with the law firm that we've cobbled together to defend our civil liberties? And what should the government do in the months ahead?
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Hello, my Rebels. I sort of take a step back and say, okay, now that the lockdowns are lifting in
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many provinces and around the world, what do we do next? What should Rebel News do? What should
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we do with this great civil liberties law firm that we've cobbled together? What should we do
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with all these reporters? I'll share some ideas, and I'll ask for your advice, too. That's next.
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Before I get to that, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the
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Tonight, the lockdowns are slowly easing. What's the Rebel going to do in the months
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ahead? It's July 6th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's
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Lockdowns are being lifted around the world. In Alberta, it was on July 1st that most of
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the rules came down. I think that caught some of the bureaucrats and enforcers and cops out
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there off guard. They forgot that they had a Christian pastor in prison, and they said,
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well, gee, if the lockdown doesn't exist anymore, why exactly are we keeping this pastor in prison?
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What's our excuse besides vengeance? And so they let him out. I think they literally forgot
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that they had imprisoned him. So he's out now. As you may have seen, Sheila Gunn-Reed was at that
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Grace Life Church in Edmonton that was expropriated for several months by the government. The government
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put their latrines right on the stairs, the entryway to the stairs, just to desecrate that
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church, show them who's boss. Well, that filth is removed, and the police are gone, and it's now back
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in the hands of the congregants. Things are returning to normal in some ways. Drea Humphrey and Matt
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Brevner were out at a music festival in British Columbia. I think the first time that's been
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legal in over a year and a half. We talk a lot about restaurants and gyms and retail shops and
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barbers and things like that, but the entire industry of performers, whether that's music or
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comedians or everything in between, has simply been cancelled. Imagine those folks trying to earn a
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living. It was nice to see some life return there. There are some professional lockdownists that are
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trying to stop this. In Calgary, a bunch of little fascists on their city council refused to lift the
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mask mandate even after the provincial rules came down. That only lasted four days before the rest of
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the city said, are you crazy? I think the answer is yes, of course, but they're not that crazy.
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There's an election in Calgary this fall. Would you want to be the alderman saying, no, no, no, no.
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I want to force everyone to wear a mask. You can wear a mask yourself. Now, that said, you can see
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little tyrannies popping up in other places, like the private sector or the quasi-private sector. I saw
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this news out of Calgary today. The Calgary Stampede is going to have a sort of mask apartheid or mask
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segregation. If you give them proof that you're vaccinated, if you show a kind of vaccine passport,
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you can get in. Without it, you're going to have to take a test and probably wear a mask. Yeah, no,
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I don't think little tyrannies can be delegated to the corporate sector or the quasi-corporate sector
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like that. I think we're going to have to do some suing to get people's sense back. I live in
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Toronto, which of course is the most locked down city in the world, according to the BBC. As far
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as I know, Toronto is the only city in North America where restaurants are not open at all.
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You can have some people on the patio outside, but no one on the inside. Incredibly, there's not even a
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plan for a projected or hoped-for return to normalcy. That's how crazy it is in Toronto.
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But the rest of the country is slowly returning to normal. So what next? What next for Rebel News?
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We changed and started so many things in our company because of the pandemic. For example,
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there was so much news about the pandemic, it was then that we started our daily live streams.
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Before that, we had just used our live streams for very special events like election night shows,
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which were very successful. But because of the news and the pandemic, we started our daily shows,
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which I think have been a hit. Now, they've been demonetized by YouTube, which kicks a $400,000
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hole in our company. But we still do them because we love to talk to our people and we love the feedback
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that the chats of these live streams give us. But what about our reporters? We've had so many
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reporters on the pandemic beat. You may even know that last year we had a Rebbe Award. That's our
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in-house awards for best pandemic journalist. David Menzies, Tamara Ugolini joined us. We found her as
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a client in a Fight the Fines campaign. She was walking on a beach, got a ticket. She was so articulate
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that we said, well, we got to give that gal a job. And she works for us. The rest is history.
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We have grown our team during the pandemic to cover the news. Drea Humphrey and Matt Brevner,
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who I mentioned earlier, out west in Vancouver. And Adam Sos, who joined us. And Kian Simone,
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we call him K2 because we had another Kian in Calgary too. And even young Daniel Day joining us
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in Edmonton. Out here in Ontario, we've grown too. Catherine Krasinowski and other journalists,
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Andrew Chapados, now has a weekly show. The team at Rebel News, and I'm sorry I'm not listing everyone,
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but it's growing all the time. And we've also expanded even into Quebec in both the English
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language and French. Alexandre Lavoie does a great job in telling the other side of the story in the
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other language. And we've really planted the flag in Quebec, including Yankee Pollack, who really
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wasn't supposed to even be an on-camera guy. He's our social media organizer based in Montreal.
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And he just started going out in the curfew when Montreal was actually locked down like children
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at night. And he did great journalism out there. So what do we do with this company?
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What do we do with this Rebel News that is so geared towards pandemic journalism?
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Now that the pandemic is receding. Well, I think the first thing to know is that the pandemic
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may be receding. In fact, statistically, it's not even a pandemic anymore. But lockdownism is stronger
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than ever. Oh, sure, that some of the rules are being lifted. But the idea that you can lock down
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an entire population, that you can tell people where they can go, if they can work, what the rules are
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for them to visit their own members of the family, if they can even go out on the street, the idea
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that these fascist or communist ideas could be implemented with general public support or at
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least no major public resistance is shocking. And it's a lesson that won't be lost on the
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communists and fascists in our society. And when I say communists and fascists, I actually mean those
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words. Later today, we'll talk to Mark Morano of Climate Depot about a lifelong communist who couldn't
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be more delighted than to have the levers of lockdownism at her control. In New Zealand,
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you'll hear how lockdownism is being prescribed for climate lockdowns and climate emergencies. I guess
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what I'm saying is Western society was put to the test on how easily we'd give up our liberties and
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we failed. I don't think we failed here at Rebel News. We weren't perfect. We didn't get everything
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right. But I think we did more journalism that was skeptical of the lockdowns and that actually went
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and followed the facts wherever they led more than any other news source in Canada. I think we were
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the only people telling the story from the citizen's point of view, as opposed from the bureaucracy's
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point of view, the government's point of view, the prosecution's point of view. Of course, one of the
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largest things we did, one of the largest things we've ever done was our fightthefines.com project.
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It started with Arthur Pawlowski, a Christian pastor who got a huge ticket for feeding the homeless.
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You'll remember that videotape. It turned into, well, last we checked in with Victoria Solomon,
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1,834 cases. Since then, I'm sure we've come close to 2,000. But the good news is
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the governments across Canada are starting to drop those cases because are they really going to
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prosecute 2,000 trials? So we're getting news of cases being dropped. And in fact, as all of these
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cases age, they're at risk of being thrown out for want of prosecution. As you know,
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our Charter of Rights guarantees the right to a speedy trial. If you don't have a trial within one,
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two, three years, there's no way that's legal. I think we could have massive victories. I think
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that there are some vengeful prosecutors. We've seen that in Alberta against the pastors, certainly.
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We've got some vengeful politicians. We see that, for example, Brian Pallister in Manitoba. And I
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understand New Brunswick is particularly harsh. But out of the 1,834 people we've been defending,
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it would not surprise me if more than 1,500 of them simply had their cases dropped. And I consider
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that a tremendous victory because we stopped them from paying the fines they shouldn't have done.
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We stopped them from, in some cases, getting a criminal record. And we let the government know
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that someone at least was pushing back compared to the Canadian Civil Liberties Association for whom
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this was their worst moment. This was their hour to shine. And in fact, they hid. And it was even
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worse in British Columbia, the BC Civil Liberties Association, which didn't lift a finger to stop the
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lockdown. They actually have gone totally crazy, as you know from my show the other day, endorsing
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the torching of Catholic churches and standing by that. I want to show you a wonderful little
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videotape by an Aboriginal woman who's actually a descendant of a residential school survivor,
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she calls herself, condemning Harshawalia and the BC Civil Liberties Association for sowing seeds of
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hate themselves. You just got to listen to this. Listen to this.
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As a Native way, we do not condone destruction of worship places. As Indigenous people, we do not
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spread hate. How we got here was a result of hate. Someone hated us Indigenous people and felt the
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need to destroy us and our culture. And so 150 years later, we're still at this place where we're
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having religious wars with each other. Well, we hate you because you hated this, you hated that. And so
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people are burning down people's places of worship as a result of this hate. And I explained to Harshawali
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how her behavior is keeping that spirit of hate going. And as I explained earlier, I said to her,
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if you keep this up, this is going to cause a very evil spirit to come to life and spread across this
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So it sounds like you, I understand you're accepting her explanation.
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Yes. That's why I very strongly said to her what I said. And I said, okay, I'll forgive you for what
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you've said. And I, um, okay, whatever, like, you know, whatever your excuses, whatever. But I'm
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going to explain to you why what you said is so damaging and dangerous in this country,
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especially a person who's a leader of a human rights organization.
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So what do we do? Do we wind down our fight the fines project? What do we do with all these
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great journalists we have? Well, I think the first thing to know is that although some of
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these cases will be dropped, there will be other cases that continue. And look, we've managed to
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build a national civil liberties law firm. And we've teamed up with a civil liberties charity,
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the Democracy Fund. I think we've got to keep that civil liberties national law firm,
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public interest law firm going, for other things too. As you know, because we've been talking about
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it for six months, uh, Justin Trudeau, and especially his cabinet minister, Stephen Gilboa,
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have plans to regulate the internet, to regulate your Facebook posts, your YouTube videos. And not just
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you, of course, I think they're really aiming at guys like us who tell the other side of the story.
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So I think the need to have civil liberties lawyers nationally is as keen as ever, especially given
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the failure of the traditional civil liberties groups. I think some of our charter challenges have
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become moot. That is, we were challenging the law under the charter, but now the law is being rescinded.
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Is there a point going forward? Well, we'll have to think about those on a case-by-case basis.
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But I think we're just starting to see the development of vaccine passports, which I find
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terrifying. And the idea that any shopkeeper, any airline, any hotel, any government agent can now
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demand to know your most private health details, I find deeply contrary to Canadian values of privacy
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and equal rights. And I think we're going to have some major charter litigation there.
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But I think the next phase beyond the lockdown is, I think we're upon a Canadian election. I don't
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think that's going to come to you as news for me to say so. It wouldn't surprise me if the election
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is formally called in August, when most Canadians are too busy enjoying summer and the barbecue circuit
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and traveling again for the first time in a year and a half. And I think Justin Trudeau, well, that'll
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suit him just fine. He won't have to do a lot of campaign events. He'll do a Joe Biden style,
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stay in the basement, don't take real questions style campaign, and just sort of cruise into
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victory, which I'm afraid he'll win, judging by the polls. And it's not just one poll and not just
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one pollster. Every single poll shows that Aaron O'Toole is on a trend, not just to lose the next
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election, but to lose badly, possibly even losing his own seat. In the Durham riding, he's actually lost
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votes every single time. He's at the risk of losing his own seat, which I think would do the
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Conservative Party a great favor. I think we have to cover the election in our passionate,
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high-energy way that we did last time, getting our reporters on planes flying around to where the
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news is, not just staying in the studio. I think, frankly, I've got to finish my new book and get that
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out quickly on Trudeau. I'm sure I'll get another inquiry and investigation and prosecution by Elections
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Canada. But again, that just goes to the need for these books because censorship is upon us.
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I think what we're going to see, especially in the next election, is how soft the media has become,
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what several years of being rented out by Trudeau's media bailout really looks like. I think it is
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without a doubt that we and other Conservative journalists will be kept out of the federal leaders
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debate, as was done to us last time. I think that's a certainty. I think if I write another book on
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time, I think it's a certainty that'll be prosecuted. But I think what will become more and more evident
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is that the rest of the media has just become ancillaries of the Liberal Party, and they really
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want Justin Trudeau to win again because that's who their de facto employer is. I think we're going
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to have some keen problems, some sharp, acute problems if Trudeau does get re-elected, as I fear
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he will in September. You know he was pushing to get C-10, his Regulate the Internet bill passed. It
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was a miracle it was stopped right before Parliament broke. And just before Parliament broke, they
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introduced C-36 to bring back the hate speech counterfeit right not to be offended, but with
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terrible new additions like the fact that there will be secret witnesses and secret complaints,
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complaints. And you can get someone arrested with a house arrest for a pre-crime that they haven't
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committed yet. Terrible things. You bet we're going to need both our journalism and our civil
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liberties litigation for that. Besides just those issues, though, I think Canada is going to be in
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for a bumpy ride. Did you know that our unemployment rate actually ticked up last month? It should be
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going down, that we're coming out of lockdown, shouldn't it? I think inflation is heating up. I think
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debt is at staggering levels. I'm really worried about the economy, actually, something I haven't
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said since 2008. I think what's very disturbing is how Trudeau wants to create a race war. I already
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showed you a taste of that with the comments about burning churches. That Indigenous woman who said,
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stop the hate, stop putting us against each other. We haven't heard anything that clear from Justin
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Trudeau. In fact, he only had this 16-second comment when he was asked about burning churches. Remember
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this? Hey, I also want to talk about the arson and vandalism we're seeing across the country
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targeted at Catholic churches. This is not the way to go. The destruction of places of worship
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is unacceptable, and it must stop. We must work together to right past wrongs. Everyone has the
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role to play, not just institutions and organizations, but all Canadians, Indigenous and non-Indigenous.
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Hey, man, that's probably not the right way to go. Can you imagine such a tepid denunciation if it
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were Jewish synagogues or Muslim mosques being torched? I think Trudeau wants to limit Parliament.
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You can see he's already suing Parliament because the Speaker ruled against him. I think he wants to
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eliminate dissent in the media. I think he wants to control the internet, and I think he wants to keep
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the trappings of the quasi-police state that we had during the lockdown, which is one of the reasons he
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hasn't lifted the lockdown. We have the most bizarre and onerous quarantine rules in the world.
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But what about us? We're going to keep the national law firm. We're going to keep our great team.
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They'll still talk about the lockdown, where it exists, but they're going to cover so many other
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issues. I feel like we've got our biggest team ever. We're going to fly a bit more again. We used
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to have people flying around like crazy. I think we're going to do that now that airlines are picking
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up again, and there's more schedules. We're going to have events again. We were barred by law from
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having our big rebel conferences or our little rebel get-togethers. We're going to start. In fact,
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we've got news coming very soon about our first big event, which will be in Alberta. We're going to
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publish more books. As you know, in the last year, we published The ABCs of Islamism by our chairman
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of our advisory board, Raheel Raza, and we just published Unsporting, a book by Coach Linda Blade and
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Barbara Kane. I want to publish a lot more books, and we're doing good on the merchandise side.
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It's just a fun thing, and it helps pay some bills. And there's an idea I'm not quite ready to share
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yet, but we've been working on it behind the scenes, I think, to expand Rebel News and to do so with an
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idea we've never really tried out before, a form of going public to allow people to invest in Rebel
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News to help fund our growth. Until now, it's just been, as they say, eat what we kill. We raise
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funds through crowdfunding, and we hire staff, and we just sort of live really on a month-to-month
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basis. But what would happen if we actually raised some money? I mean, a few million dollars. We paid
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off our debts last year because of the gratitude of our, the generosity of our supporters. But what
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if we could actually expand, if we had a pool of funds to invest thoughtfully and strategically?
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I don't want to get ahead of myself, but we are looking at a securities-compliant way to raise
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funds for an expanded Rebel News. So we're not going away. We're not done. The lockdown and the
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pandemic and the extremism of the public health officials and the extremism of the police and the
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fact that the entire establishment, the governing parties and the opposition parties, the think tanks,
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the academics, the media, the lawyers, the courts, popular culture, every single other institution
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in society was pro-lockdown. All the civil liberties groups were silent or actually in favor. All the
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churches, except for a handful, actually loved the lockdown and said so. We stood alone or almost
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alone. The Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms was there too. True North News was there too. And I've
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gone through the whole list. There were a handful of independent politicians who were with us, but I'm
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afraid they're not going to be in Parliament soon. Randy Hillier, Derek Sloan, Maxime Bernier. One of
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those isn't even in Parliament anymore, and I think the next two won't be soon either. I think a lot of
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it falls to Rebel News to keep fighting the good fight and telling the other side of the story.
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I'm excited that the lockdown is being lifted. I'm not grateful to our politicians because they took
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those liberties away from us improperly in the first place. But I'm excited about the opportunities
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it gives us as Rebel News to really increase our efforts, to meet with our viewers again, to have
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Rebel Live conferences and to expand our work. If you agree with me, let me know. Send me an email
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to ezra at rebelnews.com and tell me what you'd like to see in the months ahead as Rebel News gears up
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for the election and beyond. Well, that's my monologue. Coming up next, my interview with our friend
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Mark Morano and how he fears that lockdowns are actually going to be a go-to tool for the hard left.
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Just said, being that you think that we shouldn't lift restrictions at all on the 19th, that we should carry on
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exactly as we are. Am I right? Is that what you're suggesting?
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Well, lifting restrictions will increase transmission. And with all the problems that I've just talked
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about, it doesn't seem to me the best time to do that.
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In fact, if you remember a few weeks ago, we actually postponed lifting restrictions because
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the situation was so serious. But the situation is even more serious now than it was then.
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Listen, there's a point I really have to put to you, and you'll be aware of this, because there's
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been a lot of commentary about this in the British media about you. And it's to do with your politics.
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And you know I'm going to ask you. You've been a member of the Communist Party for about 40 years
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now. You're still a member. And we know that communism is basically status. We look at communist
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countries around the world and we see that they are tremendously top-down dominant and controlled
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societies that they rule over. And I just wonder, and I'm putting this question on behalf of those who
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wonder about your politics. If your politics actually informs your sense of control, it's
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not just the medical arguments, but you have a kind of a political bent to want the state
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I've come on your programme as a scientist, as do all people who come onto your programme
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as scientists. They come on to talk about the evidence, relevant theories, how we approach
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scientific disciplines. And you don't ask other scientists about politics. So I'm very happy
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to speak about science, which is what my job is, and to live it up to that.
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So you're saying that your politics doesn't inform your opinion on this subject?
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I'm saying that I agree to come on this programme as a scientist.
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Wow. That's from Good Morning Britain, the largest morning talk show in the United Kingdom. Now,
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that's a question you don't see put to these lockdownists. Is it really a means to solve a
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problem? Is the lockdown some cure to some other ailment? Or is the lockdown the actual goal in
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itself? And I think what we saw for that communist who didn't like to be asked about her communism,
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the answer is, of course it is. They just found the excuse to go with it. Well, that's in the
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United Kingdom. But on the other side of the world, in New Zealand, I don't know if this lady's a
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communist, but she's so excited about lockdowns, again, not to solve a problem, but as the end goal in
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themselves, she proposes to use them for everything from other diseases to global warming. Take a look at
00:24:38.980
this professor, and you know she's serious, because who else would have that fire red hair?
00:24:45.080
But I hope that, you know, people take from our responses that we can do this for other things
00:24:49.720
too. You know, we can do this for the other diseases that we have here in New Zealand. We can do this for
00:24:54.640
climate change. And I think we should not underestimate, actually, the kind of soft power now that New Zealand
00:25:00.520
has, that we can really be an exemplar for how to be a good society, how to use evidence in the right
00:25:06.420
way. You know, and we're not doing it for everything. So I think we, you know, we can show
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that, actually, why wouldn't we do this for other things?
00:25:17.800
Well, there you have it. The lockdown, they can't get enough of it. Joining us now via Skype from
00:25:23.160
Washington, D.C. is our friend Mark Morano, the boss of Climatedepot.com. That first clip from
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Good Morning Britain, you don't see public health officials or professors grilled on their lockdown
00:25:36.360
ideology. But that's what lockdownism is. It's a belief system in control. That's really what most
00:25:46.400
It is. And what we just saw there, Ezra, it was amazing. A mainstream media show actually asked
00:25:53.600
about the motivation behind these insane zero-COVID totalitarian policies and directly linked it to
00:26:02.200
the ideology of a lady who's a 40-year-plus member of the Communist Party. Now, that presenter you saw
00:26:08.060
is now under serious fire. I say it looks like he could be under threat of losing his job. All the
00:26:13.700
mainstream media is going after him. It was inappropriate. The lady who we asked is outraged.
00:26:18.900
Her colleagues are outraged. How dare he do this? You can't question the science. They've turned lockdowns
00:26:25.180
into the science. And that's incredible. They've actually done it where if you're opposed to their
00:26:30.340
solutions. So that guy really deserves an award for that. And it really exposes the agenda. Now,
00:26:35.920
New Zealand, this is a lady who is like their communicator on the COVID restrictions. COVID,
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New Zealand is one of the people, one of the countries who has this zero COVID. And it truly is
00:26:48.200
a totalitarian policy. It cannot be achieved without practicing totalitarianism. And not only
00:26:55.080
have they practiced it in New Zealand, they've mastered it. They're not just out there, you know,
00:26:59.360
practicing, getting for the big game. They've done it. And she actually goes in that interview,
00:27:03.880
she actually says, in order to be a, how to be a good society. In other words, you're a good person,
00:27:10.240
a good society. If you support these endless restrictions, they are ready. They are poised.
00:27:15.940
They're openly talking about moving it on to climate. And I have about five other examples,
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if you get a chance to go through, of what's just happened the last month on the climate lockdown
00:27:24.860
front. Yeah. I mean, you know, what's interesting is the mask, which was a symbol of compliance. Now
00:27:31.040
that the mask, you know, the science, the capital T, science, capital S is saying, well, you don't need
00:27:38.500
the mask anymore. It's amazing how many people want to wear the mask, because it's become their flag.
00:27:43.340
It's become like their religious symbol. And it shows what side they're on. And I don't know,
00:27:49.340
I think that what's interesting is people who believe in the vaccine and got the vaccine
00:27:54.700
are now saying, well, I did what you said, so let me be free. And people on the other end of the
00:28:00.100
spectrum who never wanted the vaccine, who were skeptical about it, who were worried about it.
00:28:04.540
So you've got both ends now who are saying, well, I already complied, set me free,
00:28:09.960
or I don't want to comply, set me free. But in the middle, you have the people who have mastered
00:28:15.460
the system, who love it, who have profit. I can assure you that neither of the two professors we've
00:28:20.640
shown you today have lost a day's pay. In fact, they've got a lot of, they're loving lockdownism.
00:28:27.080
I wonder if they'll succeed, Mark. Do you think they'll succeed? Do you think lockdownism
00:28:30.640
will become permanent? I absolutely do. In fact, they're not just loving it. If you watch that New
00:28:37.800
Zealand clip, and I have the whole full clip up at Climate Depot, they're coming the night before
00:28:43.640
the host is talking about how they look hungover because they went to an award ceremony party
00:28:49.160
by Public Health New Zealand, where they all congratulated each other on a job well done and
00:28:55.200
containing the virus. I mean, this is like someone coming up with a theory to try to stop the
00:29:00.280
sun, make the sun go down at the end of the day. Say you want to, oh, we want night. So we're going
00:29:04.620
to do all these government policies. And then the sun goes down and you all give yourself awards,
00:29:08.560
a job well done. The virus was going to virus no matter what government policy did. We know from
00:29:15.260
all the past epidemiological studies that masks don't work, that lockdowns never work, that they
00:29:20.100
were never even proposed. And all of a sudden, they're now crediting themselves, patting themselves
00:29:24.480
in the back so much so that they want to morph over to the climate lockdowns. We are facing
00:29:30.240
in our lifetimes, Ezra, the greatest threat that ever we could ever conceive. This isn't about German
00:29:36.620
tanks rolling into our city and imposing some kind of overt authoritarianism. This is a creeping
00:29:43.600
overnight, part creeping and then part happens overnight. Stay at home, no backyard barbecues,
00:29:51.980
government had to justify your existence. And they're now morphing it to climate,
00:29:56.460
major reports coming out. And I don't see any of our leadership and politicians on the parties,
00:30:02.160
on the leaders who are supposed to be on the side of liberty. I see most of them as completely
00:30:06.800
clueless, certainly in the United States. Yeah, well, here in Canada, I mean, I'm coming to you
00:30:11.060
from Toronto, a city where it's still illegal to go into a restaurant or into most gyms. We're the most
00:30:17.860
lockdown city in the world. I didn't see that coming. I mean, I know Canada is more socialist
00:30:22.460
than America, but I just, like, there actually is no plan. They don't have, like, phase one,
00:30:28.720
phase two, phase three. Like, there is no exit road that's even been mapped out here. There is no path
00:30:35.680
out in Ontario. I'm boggled by it. But how does that work in America? You've got 50 different states,
00:30:42.800
and each of them has a slightly different policy. I think Florida and Texas and South Dakota being
00:30:48.920
leaders and other places have been laggards. How does that work when you've got the federal
00:30:53.780
government going even deeper down the lockdown list or vaccine road? Here's Jen Psaki, the spokesman
00:31:00.600
for, excuse me, pardon me, for Joe Biden, saying they're now going to go door to door in certain
00:31:06.220
neighborhoods, pushing the vaccine here. Take a quick look at this. Just a very quick click. Take a look.
00:31:10.340
President will outline five areas his team is focused on to get more Americans vaccinated.
00:31:16.540
One, targeted community by community door to door outreach to get remaining Americans vaccinated by
00:31:22.140
ensuring they have the information they need on how both safe and accessible the vaccine is.
00:31:26.900
That's really weird. Door to door vaccine salesman. I don't get it. I mean, in Canada or around America,
00:31:33.980
you have lotteries giving millions of dollars away. You have stores giving free ice cream,
00:31:39.220
free hot dogs, free junk food, really. I've just never seen such a thing before, but they're not done.
00:31:46.580
You can't even put on a baseball game or a basketball game messaging. The announcers are saying it.
00:31:51.700
You know, I'll tell you right now, I will not get the vaccine for one simple reason. The people that are
00:31:56.960
promoting it lied about masks, lied about lockdowns, lied about the death rate from COVID. I don't trust them.
00:32:03.600
One ounce. I wouldn't even consider it. I'm not. It's not an option for me or my family to even
00:32:08.040
consider the vaccine. I'm sorry. And I'm not anti-vax. I've gotten every other vaccine, including
00:32:13.160
flu shots. My kids have outlawed them. Everyone. So there's no way you could label me that. But this
00:32:18.240
vaccine, my eyes have been opened to this whole nonsense. There's no way I would get it.
00:32:22.820
Yeah. I find it very strange. Now, the idea of zero COVID, and we hear that, like if there's a
00:32:29.820
single case, you flip, you hit the alarm button. They do that in Australia a little bit too. There's
00:32:34.580
some Australian states where like six cases and they lock down millions of people, just
00:32:40.700
Well, in the climate world, they actually have absolute zero, which is the zero carbon dioxide
00:32:49.720
allowance. In the UK funded report at Climate, I have a whole profile list at Climate Depot. I
00:32:55.200
don't know anyone else who caught this, not even in the UK that didn't catch this. 2009 report urged
00:33:00.960
climate lockdowns, stop flying, no new roads, airport closures, stop eating beef, lamb, stop doing
00:33:06.880
anything that causes emissions, prohibitions on CO2 similar to asbestos. These are exact
00:33:13.180
quotes from the report. Absolute zero, zero COVID. They're literally like bookends and they're
00:33:19.760
coming in and they're crushing us like one of those moving walls in an old film. This is
00:33:25.960
real. And not only that, peer reviewed journal, not only that, the International Energy Agency
00:33:30.380
recommending it, not only that, Biden's being declared to order a climate emergency. Again,
00:33:35.680
only fly when it's morally justifiable, end of private car ownership, the end of eating meat,
00:33:41.480
degrowth, planned recessions. This is real. It's happening. No one's voting on it. Republicans
00:33:46.860
aren't aware of it. And this is happening behind the scenes. Bill Gates buying up the most American
00:33:52.800
farmland, according to NBC News, not some conservative blog. I have NBC News reporter actually saying
00:33:59.660
Bill Gates isn't the one in overalls and a pitchfork out there, but he's buying up the farms from small
00:34:05.340
family-run farmers. And Bill Gates is pushing fake processed vegetable oil, what they're calling
00:34:13.160
meat, as an alternative to cattle things. So what they're doing is taking control of everything
00:34:19.980
behind the scenes with funding, finances, and even the Biden administration, every agency is a
00:34:25.360
climate agency. It's all happening. And then you have the ESG, environment, social governance.
00:34:29.840
Banks will not be allowed or be penalized for doing energy projects. They have every avenue in which
00:34:36.760
to enforce this. And most of the public, most of our leadership, all of our leadership, and most of
00:34:41.580
our even side that's elected are completely clueless as to what's happening. We won't be able to have a
00:34:47.100
Donald Trump come in four or eight years and undo stuff like the last real Donald Trump did,
00:34:52.740
because it's going to be so ingrained, so just died and died into baked into our administrative
00:35:00.920
state. That's where we're headed. Yeah, I always found it creepy when I heard that Bill Gates was
00:35:06.220
buying up farmland. I didn't quite understand what his game was. But yeah, I mean, he's got these
00:35:12.900
crazy videos he did of him drinking what he called poop water. I don't know why I'm sure that makes me so
00:35:18.620
nauseous. He drank water made from feces. Oh, I can't even think of it without gagging. But it's
00:35:23.260
true, the World Economic Forum. And by the way, Chrystia Freeland, a very senior cabinet minister in
00:35:27.100
Canada, is still on the board of the World Economic Forum. I don't even know how that's
00:35:31.060
ethical to be on the board of directors of a lobby group when you're in the Canadian cabinet.
00:35:36.900
So I'm worried. I mean, you'll recall that Justin Trudeau gave a speech at the United Nations
00:35:42.840
Online, where he said this Great Reset is a chance to use the crisis to transform Canada. Here's a
00:35:50.700
quick clip of that. Building back better means getting support to the most vulnerable while
00:35:56.380
maintaining our momentum on reaching the 2030 agenda for sustainable development and the SDGs.
00:36:02.820
Canada is here to listen and to help. This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset. This is our
00:36:10.440
chance to accelerate our pre-pandemic efforts, to reimagine economic systems that actually address
00:36:16.400
global challenges like extreme poverty, inequality, and climate change. So all these things you're
00:36:22.140
talking about, Mark, I mean, they sound, oh my God, conspiratorial. Well, they're being done out in
00:36:26.380
the open. You know, the World Economic Forum saying you won't own anything and you'll love it.
00:36:31.580
Everything you have read, drones will deliver. Here's a quote. These are, again, I only give sources,
00:36:35.940
quotes. I don't like say, oh, you know, Alex Jones said this. No. The International Energy Agency
00:36:42.300
report, which came out, I believe, in March of this year, 2021, urged behavioral changes are all in
00:36:47.780
quotes, behavioral changes to fight climate change, a shift away from private car use, upper speed limits,
00:36:54.000
thermostat controls, limits on hot water. These are in the report. These are the actual mainstream
00:37:00.060
findings. They're telling us exactly what they want to do. What I, my new line, by the way, my new
00:37:05.980
philosophy is 2020, 2021 are the year conspiracy realities outnumber conspiracy theories. You can
00:37:13.380
take that to the bank. Well, and, and my point about some people want to wear those masks forever
00:37:19.260
is one of the creepy things about the whole lockdown, and I think it's a form of Stockholm syndrome,
00:37:25.400
is how many people loved it and will miss it and were proud of it and wanted to be in on it. And
00:37:32.140
then one of the ways they got in on it was they were little enforcers, petty little enforcers of
00:37:36.700
masks and rules out on the street. And I was shocked and disappointed the ratio of happy scolds and happy
00:37:46.400
enforcers compared to dissidents. And, and so how easily this communist style lockdown took root with
00:37:56.360
public health as the explanation. I fear that with climate is the next explanation. I fear there will
00:38:02.320
be again, 10, 20, 30% of the population that loves it, that run to volunteer to enforce it. I learned
00:38:10.560
something about Canadians and people in the whole world. A lot of people don't mind a little bit of
00:38:15.280
tyranny. Last word to you, Mark. Yeah. I mean, Peter Hitchens, the UK columnist, I believe for the
00:38:21.180
Daily Mail said it best during the height last summer of the COVID lockdowns. He said, if anyone
00:38:27.340
ever wondered what they would have done during Hitler's early years in Nazi Germany, how they
00:38:33.200
would have fought, how could that have happened to these enlightened German people? You don't need to
00:38:37.560
look further than what happened to the world in 2020 and 2021. And I think he's exactly right.
00:38:42.480
Everyone looks back at history and says, how could they allow that? And yet we were here now. We
00:38:47.840
watched as in LA and Los Angeles and California, people were rewarded. Snitches get rewards for
00:38:54.380
ratting on your neighbor for too many people over at their house. Your utilities could be cut off
00:38:58.640
if you had too many people. This was a world that no one ever expected to happen, let alone happen
00:39:03.200
literally overnight with the hysteria following COVID-19. Yeah. Well, we're in the worst of it here
00:39:09.000
in Canada. Mark Morano, great to catch up with you. Thanks for your time. Thank you. Appreciate it.
00:39:14.360
There you have it. Mark Morano, check out his website, climatedepot.com. Stay with us more ahead.
00:39:18.940
Hey, welcome back on my show last night. PJ writes, very nice move demanding back your money
00:39:36.800
stolen by the BC Law Society and given to Harsha. Yeah, it's from the BC Law Foundation. I don't even
00:39:41.780
know how they get away with that. They just take all the interest from all the lawyers' trust funds.
00:39:46.660
That's a very weird, weird gig. Just on what basis do they dare to take that money? But because we
00:39:54.400
have business in BC, a few pennies or a few dollars of ours went to Harsha Welly. I don't believe in
00:39:59.560
that. Steven writes, isn't her tweet the definition of the left's hate crime laws? Yeah. I mean,
00:40:07.140
inciting hatred, likely to expose a person to hatred or contempt. That's the wishy-washy
00:40:13.260
language of the left. In fact, I did sort of a goofy tweet today. I said, on her own terms,
00:40:18.780
Harsha Welly is a bigoted settler who is calling for the destruction of indigenous culture. I mean,
00:40:27.620
when you're saying burn down Indian churches, that's exactly what you're saying.
00:40:31.960
Don writes, if someone said burn down all mosques, they'd be arrested for hate.
00:40:35.840
Oh, they would be. And terrorism. And they'd have a police raid on their home. And they'd be locked
00:40:41.540
up. Absolutely. And I'm afraid that we have hate in society that's not going checked. And we have
00:40:50.300
hate crimes and hate prosecutions and hate cops that are going after things that aren't real hate.
00:40:56.640
Not that I even think an emotion should be prosecuted to begin with. I think that's one of
00:41:01.700
the challenges we're going to have in the months and years ahead. The criminalization of feelings
00:41:07.240
and thoughts. That's our show for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here
00:41:11.660
at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.