EZRA LEVANT ｜ Barbara Kay remembers Rex Murphy, condemns Canada's Hamas encampments
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A great chat with Barbara Kay about Rex Murphy and the Hamas encampments across the country, and why they should be allowed to continue even if they break the law, including in some cases the criminal code. I d love to see the video version of this conversation.
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Hello, my friends. A great chat with Barbara Kay today. We're going to reminisce a bit about
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the late, great Rex Murphy, and then we're going to talk about some of these Hamas encampments
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across the country and why they're being allowed to continue even if they break the law, including,
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in some cases, the criminal code. I'd love to invite you to see the video version of this
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We don't take any money from the government, and it shows. All right, here's today's podcast.
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Tonight, a heart-to-heart conversation with Barbara Kay. We'll talk about Rex Murphy
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and the Hamas encampments across the country. It's May 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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You've got it for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.
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So many things are going on around the world. So many things are going on across our country,
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things we haven't seen before. There's one friend I trust on so many issues, very thoughtful. She's a
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writer for the National Post. I'm so glad she has that forum. She also comes on our show with her
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wisdom. You know who I'm talking about, our friend Barbara Kay, who joins us now via Skype. Barbara,
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great to see you again. I've been meaning to catch up with you on so much that's happening.
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But first, before we get into the news, let's talk just for a minute about our mutual friend,
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Rex Murphy, who passed away a few days ago. Share with us your thoughts on Rex and his passing.
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Well, I, like most, well, I shouldn't say all, but most journalists, I recognize Rex as a sort of a
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colossus over the years of Canadian journalism. He's done every medium. He owned Cross-Country Checkup.
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That was a show that attracted upwards of 350,000 viewers, or listeners, rather. And he would get
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the numbers like nobody in CBC's history. And, you know, when you look at the numbers they're
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getting today, which is kind of pathetic, it just shows you what could be and what was wonderful
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programming. And that really was very, he was a very unifying force because he cared deeply about
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Canada. He came from Newfoundland. He brought a very different perspective from most of our
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Laurentian elites and most of the journalists who were kind of grew up in Ontario or Quebec or wherever,
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even on the prairies. I just thought, this is a guy who really cared about people. He really listened.
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He was really open to everybody's point of view. He respected people and they respected him. They
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loved him. He was a great speaker. He could speak on any topic and did to any number of people,
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groups. He could speak to kings and he could speak to plumbers. And he gave both the same respect and the
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same, you know, he just wanted to share. He wanted to hear from them. And anyways, and his erudition,
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he, the, on my tribute this morning, the National Post, they gave it the headline,
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the people's intellectual. So I like that heading.
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That's exactly right. And I, I didn't forget about his role at cross-country checkup and I'm just
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thinking about it now. And what I recall from that is how subordinate he made himself.
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He wanted to pull out of people from across the country, their stories, and he let them go on
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quite long, longer than a normal talk radio show. And maybe you could tell a little bit where he stood,
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but it, he, he was the servant on that show. He wasn't the pontificator. He was surely smarter than 90%
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of the people he talked to, but he had a respect for their humanity and their experience.
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And it was a cross-country checkup. He did check in with the whole country. And in that way,
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I think he showed a love for the far-flung regions that maybe someone born and raised in Toronto or
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Montreal might not so naturally do. I think that's part of his Newfoundland roots. And you're right
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about his erudition. He, uh, he was an editor of a dictionary and it shows, it shows what we missed.
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I think it was you. Somebody told me, a friend of mine said, Ezra Levent once visited Rex's house
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and said he'd never seen such a collection of dictionaries. Was that you? You'd never saw it?
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I did. I did visit the house and he had the full Oxford English dictionary, the expanded version,
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which I think was like 20 volumes. It's been a while. I don't remember. And we were a little bit
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nerdy. So we tried to stump each other with words that the other guy wouldn't know. And I actually
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got him, which shocked me. Maybe he was just letting me win. The word was in infandus. And the fact
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that I've never heard that word. I have never. Apparently Rex, I don't believe that Rex didn't
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hear it. And I think he was just trying to let me feel better about myself. I don't think so,
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because I have a pretty good vocabulary and that is a word. I-N-F-A-N-D-O-U-S. Yeah. It's very
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similar to infamous. And yeah, I shouldn't be talking about that word in fantasy. It's just
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the only time I managed to know a word that Rex didn't. I mean, the man was a Rhodes scholar. He
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knew his Shakespeare better than anyone else. But as you alluded to, he wasn't a snob. He wasn't
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elitist. He was elite by every measure of the word, but he was not an elitist. He saw the wisdom
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in ordinary people. It was like Kipling's poem, If. As you mentioned before, he could talk with kings
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or with paupers. And, um, and, uh, I don't, I can't, Rex would know that whole poem by heart,
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but. Of course he would. And he, and he, he would, he, he, he could speak anywhere without notes,
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without, with complete fluency. Uh, another, a friend of mine told me that, uh, he was asked at
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the very last minute after October 7th, uh, the, the rally in Ottawa was supposed to be addressed by,
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I think somebody from the IDF, they couldn't make it. And they asked Rex, he stepped in and ex
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tempera, she said, gave the greatest speech. Uh, that was just incredible. And, and that reminds me
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that on his literal deathbed, his last two columns about the October 7th pogrom and the horrible
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aftermath of it, uh, and the Trudeau government's failure to address the, the, what was
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happening, the rise in antisemitism with honor or, or, uh, you know, really even reason, uh, was
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shaming for Canada. And he, his passion was undiminished, uh, and it was within days of him
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dying. In fact, um, the last, uh, the last, uh, um, communication that the editor at the National
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Post had with him was when Rex wanted to make sure he said, did you get my column? Is it going in?
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Wow. Um, and that was the last communication they had.
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You know, I was just looking down my phone for a second. I wanted to read just one line from
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Kipling's if, because this really is Rex. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue
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or walk with Kings, nor lose the common touch. If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
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if all men count with you, but none too much. If you can fill the unforgiving minute with 60 seconds
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worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it. And what is more,
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you'll be a man, my son. What a great poem by Kipling. And of course, Rex would have known that
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Yeah. Well, uh, we miss him, but I was thinking about him on the weekend. We had a Rebel News live
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event and we, we played a montage and I, and I thought, how do you replace a giant like that?
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Well, part of the answer is he wasn't born a giant. He was born a baby and became a man and he grew
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into the Colossus that you described. Um, I mean, he was still great 10 years ago and 20 years ago and
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30 years ago, but he only turned into the man he is over time. And the replacement for Rex,
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the successor to Rex doesn't appear like a, like a snap. It, it grows over time. And I think everyone
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has to climb the next rung on the ladder. All of us have to grow one more rung, one more tree ring.
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And, you know, he, he really was a unique person, but I think all of us can, can step up and, and
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take some of the burden and continue the mission he did.
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Well, he's certainly an inspiration. I hope that young journalists, uh, that his passing will be
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an occasion for young journalists to take an interest in his work, to look back at some of
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his columns and his, his, his radio work and, and, and, and reflect on the qualities that made him,
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uh, gladden the hearts of Canadians and make them proud to be Canadian along with him. Uh, so I hope
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that, uh, his legacy will be an inspiration for young journalists coming up.
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I don't, we've, we've been speaking so highly of the man. I don't want to, um, bring a note of
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negativity, but you will remember that a few years ago when Rex wrote a piece about how Canada is the
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least racist country you can imagine, we're inherently not racist. In fact, it's very Canadian
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us to be multicultural and to bend over backwards and to learn about different cultures. And, and he
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didn't say there was no acts of racism in the country. That would be impossible. Canada's full
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of men and women, not angels, but how the country in its bones was not racist. It was a beautiful
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pro-Canadian article. And yet there was a petition in the National Post newsroom signed by a majority of
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writers who felt comfortable using their names. It wasn't anonymous who not only demanded that he be
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rebuked, but demanded that he no longer be allowed to write about subjects of race. And it was, and they
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actually had a town hall meeting at the National Post about it, like a grievance, like a struggle
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session. And the National Post did not give in. Of course, of course they didn't fire their star
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writer. In fact, some of those agitators behind that petition have been gently moved on to other
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places. But right now there is a red guard amongst young journalists. Struggle sessions, condemnations,
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tearing down. It really is a kind of cultural revolution. So I don't mean to be pessimistic,
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but Rex was targeted even by his colleagues, which is astonishing to me. It's a sign of the times.
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Well, I guess I was a little astonished that that happened at the National Post, but yes,
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they went through a kind of turbulent period. It was during a union drive. And actually that was,
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wasn't somewhere in that mix. I left for a while because it was threatening, threatening to get out
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of control. Fortunately, they got it under control, very well under control. So there has been none of
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that since then. But yeah, they, they, Rex stood for something they didn't like at all. And I mean,
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look, he was a classic liberal. He didn't change his whole life. He was believed in judge the individual,
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don't judge by a group. He was very much against the Marxist template that these young people have
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grown up in. And so he had, he didn't change, but that's why he had to leave the CBC. It's why he
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had to leave the Globe and Mail because he didn't change, but everybody around him kept changing. So
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yeah. No, I'm, I wasn't trying to disparage the National Post there. I was sort of making the point
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even in the National Post. Even in the National Post, there was turbulence. It's true.
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Unfortunately, the right, the right balance came back. Yeah. Well, it's just incredible. All
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right. Well, let's talk about, anyhow, I'm glad we talked about Rex and, and hopefully we can all
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become a little bit more like he was. Let's talk about the news, especially in your city of Montreal.
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Today, our reporter, Alexa Lavoie is out there. There are court orders to remove some of these
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Hamas encampments. I call them Mein Kampf. I like that. A pun on Mein Kampf. If only it were funny.
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You have absolute Jew hatred, antisemitism, that if it were a KKK camp, if it was an, if it were white
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people wearing white Klan hoods, screaming about blacks, go back to Africa, which is the analog
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of Jews get out or whatever they're saying, the condemnation would be uniform, complete, instant,
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and passionate. But shockingly, when it's about Jews, these encampments have gone on for weeks.
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And I should tell you that the police, when our reporter, Alexa Lavoie presented today,
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the police moved her away. She was going to use a drone camera. The police said, you do that,
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we'll find you a thousand dollars. Meanwhile, the Hamas drone was literally buzzing Alexa so much,
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she could grab it out of the sky. And the police did not like just, these are just little examples
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of authority. You would think that the university authorities would act. You would think that campus
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security would act. You would think that the police would act. You would think that with a court
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injunction, there would be action. But, but from the entire establishment, police, politicians,
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the press, professors, it's just, this is acceptable now. This is the new normal. I find that astonishing.
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Yeah. I saw a phrase in a book review earlier today, and it was called the normalization of
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deviance. And this is what is happening on these encampments. The police, obviously they're acting
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according to orders that they're getting from above. They, they have to answer to the mayor.
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Well, actually they don't answer to the mayor so much. She says she can't answer. She can't answer
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for them. She allows them total freedom. So that would, the top of law enforcement in Montreal
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has decided on this policy of, of going very easy. Uh, it's a big mistake. I wish they would have
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taken their cue from what happened in Alberta. Uh, I watched your coverage of, um, was it Edmonton or,
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or University of Alberta? Calgary. We had our, our reporter, Sidney Fouzard was in Calgary and I think
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he did a great job and he was on his own there. He, he, he didn't want to get too close cause he's,
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uh, his knee was injured and he, he wanted to be able to, uh, I mean, and these guys have no
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compunction about being physical. Like they, they will do what they're inspired by Hamas.
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They say resistance. They say, one of their slogans is you don't get to change to determine the way
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we resist, which is their way of saying we'll be violent if we want to. It's a stone.
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Yeah. On your property, on somebody else's property. Uh, no, they, they, uh, they tried to
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resist. Uh, I thought the police were effective. They kept their cool. They were very calm. They
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didn't strong arm anybody. They didn't get violent. No need to get violent. They sort of just formed a
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line and kept pushing with the shields, uh, back and back and back until they got, uh, I should,
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I was going to say the students, but I think probably half of them are not students. They're
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outside agitators. Uh, they got them out and, um, uh, naturally they got a letter of protest.
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I think the NCCM, uh, was right in there saying, no, no, this is, you know, the police, uh, overstepped
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and, and so there's going to be an investigation, but I think they'll survive that because they did
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their job properly. But the, the point is, you, you know, if you keep trying to talk or to argue
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with these people, they're, they're, they're not going to negotiate. They're not acting in good
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faith. They're acting in bad faith. And, and, and you're absolutely right. If this was any other
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minority group, um, they wouldn't even have been able to set up those tents in the first place.
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It's only, only, uh, they'll say it's Zionists, but it's Jews. They, you know, and we already saw
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last week when a, uh, a Jewish professor with an Israeli accent was not allowed access to his office.
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Um, and they just wouldn't let him pass. And he knew it was because he had an Israeli accent. So,
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uh, this, this, uh, this, uh, negligence of in authority, uh, it's very, they're playing with
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fire. They really are because they're, they're pretty well giving, um, permission to trespass,
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to keep trespassing and to keep upping the ante. They're, they're setting the terms and, uh, the
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authorities are, are, are letting them. It's such a huge mistake. As you said at the beginning, you
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know, you, you give an inch, they'll, they'll take a mile in the end. You, you gotta end these
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things very soon or they fester and they get worse. We'll see. Yeah. I have some friends who say,
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um, for example, they, they, they saw the other day, um, when Hamas supporters were blocking highways,
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uh, Chicago's airport, uh, New York airport. More recently, they were blocking a highway in Florida
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that was shut down very quickly. Um, very inconveniencing things like they shut down a
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major highway in Toronto briefly a few weeks ago. And I see people say, oh, that's not persuading
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anybody. You're not winning hearts and minds. That's not what this is about. This is about
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exerting dominance, showing who the new boss is, moving the Overton window and letting you know
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that the country you lived in your whole life is not the country you're in now. And the rules that
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you thought were in place are different now. And who you thought the police listened to and the
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politics, it's different now. And they're actually like a child looking for a boundary. How far can I
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go? And in Calgary and Edmonton, they have found that limit, but so far they have not found that
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limit in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal. And I, I don't think they ever will because, um,
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show me a political leader of any power who has said a word against it. So me, show other than the
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National Post and the Toronto Sun and independent media like Rebel News, show me a major, show me a
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major French-speaking newspaper that has come out fully against this. Um, and so the Hamas side,
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which is buttressed by Antifa and hard left-wing activists, um, they are not trying to persuade.
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They're trying to teach. They're trying to teach you who the new masters are. They're trying to
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demoralize people like you and me and Jewish students and pro-Canadian, pro-American,
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pro-Western students. They're trying to exhilarate and encourage their tribe and demoralize the rest
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of us. And they are absolutely succeeding. And they're retraining the police, aren't they?
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I think, I think so. I'll, I just wanted to say, by the way, there are independent,
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not independent, there are writers, for example, the Journal de Montréal and even at La Presse, uh,
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and on radio shows who, uh, are not, do not fall into line with that pro-Hamas thing. They are,
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there are, uh, anti-Hamas and anti, uh, that are, you know, very much standing up for Jews and Zionists
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Well, just, and Canadians. I mean, I'm a Jew and you're a Jew, so we have a tendency to speak from
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that identity. But I, I would have to hope that I would be just as mad if it was the Klan versus
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black kids. I see this as an anti-Canada thing as much as an anti-Jewish thing.
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We do. It's anti-democracy. It's anti-West. It's anti-West. And they, and they won't stop.
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Because they, they also say, death to America, and not at McGill, I don't think. But, you know,
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in the States, we've seen them chanting death to the West and death to America. They, they,
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you know, it's kind of interesting. Have you noticed that, that they're now enacting,
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uh, at some universities. They're, they're, they're, uh, doing Muslim prayers, like, you
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know, bending down and bowing down. And, um, some of the women are putting on hijabs and
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stuff. They're not converting to Islam, but they are indicating that their support is so
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great for Hamas that they actually are cosplaying, um, Islamic customs and, you know, you know, just
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really a poke in the eye to the West. It's, it's, it's just part of the revolutionary,
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um, uh, activity that just shows how mindless and crazy they are because.
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I visited Columbia, uh, a couple of times. And when I went into Columbia and I saw that in the tents,
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I saw a lot of trans activists were there. And of course they are, Barbara, not because they think
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Gaza is hospitable to trans. They don't even think about that. They just know what they believe in,
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which is tearing things down, demolishing the patriarchy, smashing America. And I'm, I'm mad at
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you, dad, or whatever. I mean, if, if you're the kind of person who is, uh, who, who is part of the
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trans political trajectory, of course you're going to be with the revolutionaries. So you're bundling
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up all the revolution. Why is Greta Thunberg, uh, at, at one of the encampments, she was arrested
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there the other day. Do you think she knew she could find Gaza on a map? No, she couldn't.
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She knows just as little about, um, Gaza. She knows less about Gaza than she knew about global warming
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science, but it's the pointy edge of the spear for the global revolution now. So you, so this is
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bringing together a coalition of all the revolutionaries and that's what it is. And, and,
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and the cult, like you, you talked about a behavior of non-Muslims participating in Muslim prayers.
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They're, they want to belong. They want to behave and belong together. I saw that in, at the
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Fashion Institute of Technology, some girls were waving flags. I said, what flags are those girls?
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Oh, they're Palestinian. No, they weren't, but they don't even know any, they don't know anything
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about anything other than this is the time and the place. This is the, the summer of love,
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the summer of hate, whatever you want to call it. This is their 1968. This is their Woodstock.
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This is their moment. And damn it, they're going to be there. And I never much liked the Jews anyways.
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And they're too powerful. Well, they're, they're, they're oppressor class. They have privilege. So
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it's okay. That's the context that the university presidents were talking about. Is it okay to call
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for the genocide of Jews? Well, you have to look at the context around it. They would never say that
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about any other minority. But it's with Jews, it's always context. What context would that be that
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it's okay to call for the genocide of them? You know, well, if it's, if it's Zionism, you know,
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then. Let me ask you this, because I saw one of your columns was about Jewish law firms. I mean,
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I don't know if there's any law firms that are just Jews, but there are law firms where there's
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a lot of Jewish lawyers. Or they're led by, or the partners are Jewish. Right. And, and some of them
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are saying, look, if you're part of these anti-Semitic encampments, we, we just don't want to hire
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you. And I, there was a little bit of that in the U S as well. And I think that scared a few of
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these folks who had their big dreams of going to huge, well-paying law firms. And they realized that
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what plays well with their, you know, classmates might not sit as well at a big law firm. But I,
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I don't know how, I don't know how terrifying that is anymore because there are increasingly
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businesses and lawyers and law firms, like, like the owner of Paramount Foods, just forgot his name
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off the top of my head. He's a senior advisor for Justin Trudeau. He said, I don't want any Zionist
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money in my restaurants. And, and he's also said, he said, I'll pay your legal bills. I'll hire you.
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Like, um, he's not a major industrialist, but there are enough places. I think that you can come
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out full anti-Semitic, full pro Hamas. And yeah, you might not go to work for a really, really Jewish
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law firm, but there are enough places where you will succeed. And I look over to the United Kingdom
00:26:13.600
as a time machine, what we're going to look like in five years. And they're absolutely, I'd say the
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anti-Semitic firms, the anti-Semitic businesses that outnumber those that are tolerant. And we see
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candidates winning local office, like, like city councilor positions who are running on a full
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pro Gaza platform. Like they're not even talking about local issues. I think that with the demographic
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changes being fed by out of control immigration, and with no moral leadership at the top, this country
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will become effectively a parallel country. Sure, you can be polite company and not say anything bad
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about the Jews and operate over there. But you can go full tilt anti-Semitic and still get a great job
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and a law firm and be on TV and run for public office. And maybe you'll become the mayor of London
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one day. Maybe you'll look at Malmo, Sweden, where the Eurovision contest had 50% Islamic. The Israeli
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singer there needed 100 police to escort her to this to the stage. There were thousands of people there
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who would have killed her and ripped her limb from limb. And that is, yeah, that is true. But
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on the upside, when the people voted, she actually came into second place. Well, it was interesting
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because the juries that there's the two sides, I don't watch Eurovision. So I, but I understand
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there's the juries, the juries are made up of appointed whoever they are. But the people, anybody can vote.
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And it's, it's seen by something crazy, like 163 million people. And the votes came in from all
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these countries like Ireland and all these other, Norway, all these countries that are officially
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quite anti-Israel, quite anti-Israel and a lot of anti-Semitism amongst the, you know, the university
00:28:18.820
crowd and even politically. But overwhelmingly, the popular vote was with her. I mean, the Swiss
00:28:27.800
person who won apparently deserved to win, but, uh, the popular vote was for her and by millions like
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so, or hundreds of thousands, uh, which shows you that the, the, the, uh, it's unfortunate that it's
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topped down. As you say, there are plenty of people in politics and in business who are very supportive
00:28:49.480
of, of, of the whole pro-Palestinian, um, movement. Uh, but I think ordinary people, the silent
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majority, they're, they're not so crazy about this rabid anti, anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism that
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doesn't, it's not a help in the sense that they can't do much about it, but it does show you that
00:29:11.560
it's, it's, uh, it's very much coming. The movement is very much ideologues, their followers,
00:29:17.880
uh, and although it makes the news, uh, and, and sucks up a lot of airtime, um, it, it, and it gives
00:29:26.300
you the impression that entire countries are, you know, against Jews. Uh, it's not the case. It's just
00:29:34.060
very organized at the top. Well, in some places, I've been to Malmo. I spent a full day in the
00:29:41.560
neighborhood called Rosengard. I had security with them. I saw one Swedish face the entire day.
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And I talked to young men who were born in Sweden, but their entire lives was a, was a surreal
00:29:55.240
life. They wanted liquor banned. They wanted homosexuality banned. They told me this. Um,
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absolutely they believed in polygamy. These were not people who em, immigrated to Sweden and just
00:30:07.740
hadn't been accultured. These were people born in Sweden who, I mean, I don't, just like Istanbul
00:30:15.880
used to be called Constantinople, the largest Christian city in the world. It's not the largest
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Christian city in the world today. It's called Istanbul. And the Hagia Sophia was turned into a
00:30:26.560
mosque. And I don't think the city of Malmo, Sweden will be called Malmo forever. It wouldn't
00:30:34.820
surprise me if in my lifetime it's renamed. And I don't know. I, I think that we are in deep trouble.
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I think the first thing to do is to hit pause on immigration because we are bringing in people
00:30:54.000
from places where antisemitism is endemic. We don't test for that when we bring people over.
00:31:00.220
And unfortunately, some of the institutions that welcome newcomers are happy with antisemitism,
00:31:07.400
universities being the most obvious one. Or indifferent. I wouldn't say that our government,
00:31:12.020
everybody in the government is antisemitic themselves. I think it's almost like a matter
00:31:16.680
of indifference. They just think that immigration is a good thing. Uh, that, uh, that it's, it's
00:31:23.900
Islamophobic even to consider, uh, what people believe about, you know, Jews to, to, to, that would
00:31:32.300
be like sort of a purity test for them or whatever. Uh, they, they have a naive belief that once they've
00:31:38.060
come into Canada, that they'll somehow become Canadian and all pluralistic and everything. Um, they
00:31:44.900
are, they are, they are indifferent to, uh, reality in fact. And this, uh, we have a prime minister who
00:31:54.260
is eager. Uh, he's the only, I think he's the only political head of state in the world that is
00:32:00.600
actually eager to bring in thousands and thousands of Palestinians from Gaza. Uh, even though the polls
00:32:07.240
show that they are largely supportive of Hamas. So, uh, he never asks himself, why are all these Muslim
00:32:16.060
countries in the Middle East and beyond, why are none of them receptive to the idea of, you know,
00:32:23.240
giving shelter and refugee space to these, to these Palestinians? He doesn't know anything about history
00:32:31.100
and he doesn't care about history. Uh, he's, he's, uh, very incurious, um, about foreign affairs in
00:32:39.540
general and the Middle East in particular. And so to him, these are just people in need of, you know,
00:32:46.340
and he's going to be their white savior. Um, so it'll have to be a new government. And by that time,
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we'll just have, I don't know how many more from hotspots in which antisemitism is the norm,
00:32:58.580
but, uh, maybe the damage is already done because you don't need a million Jew haters to,
00:33:05.940
to actually make, uh, Canada a very unpleasant place for Jews. You just need, you know, you only
00:33:13.000
need 1% of the population that is culturally, uh, that, that in whose culture antisemitism is the norm.
00:33:24.040
You only need 1% of them to actually take action. Um, and, and then it gets very unpleasant for all
00:33:30.800
Jews. You know, I'm, I, I studied the phenomenon of broken windows policing in New York. James
00:33:38.200
Q. Wilson's theory, Rudy Giuliani implemented it. Um, I've talked about it on the show before. He would,
00:33:43.900
uh, arrest people for very minor offenses, jaywalking, littering, just to stop those things,
00:33:50.420
send a message and also to nab larger criminals when they did smaller things. But the main theory
00:33:56.060
was to turn off the signal that a broken window or graffiti sent to the city, which is no one's
00:34:03.320
paying attention. No one cares. No one's going to enforce things. We accept this now. This is a
00:34:10.040
dangerous place. A broken window sends messages. And so by fixing the broken windows, by covering up the
00:34:17.760
graffiti, you, you send a message that no, we don't allow this. One of the things I learned
00:34:23.140
is that when they were cracking down on gangs and criminals in parts of New York, often it was just
00:34:30.220
one or two thugs who would terrorize an entire city block. Maybe a thousand people would live in fear
00:34:39.080
because there was a couple of bad dudes and everyone was inside and everyone had barred windows
00:34:45.180
just from a couple of dudes. And you take them away and people started coming outside and living
00:34:50.120
on the street and reclaiming the space that had been conceded. And I think that that's one of the
00:34:56.620
things going on. I don't think that there are a million Hamas supporters in Canada. I think,
00:35:03.760
in fact, if you look at the numbers who were finally cleared from University of Calgary,
00:35:06.760
University of Alberta, it was in, maybe it was a hundred or not even much more than that.
00:35:11.600
But that's enough to feed a thousand images on social media. That's enough to change policing
00:35:19.200
and send a message. And when you have 700 paid agents by Iran running around fomenting things,
00:35:26.460
you can feel surrounded. I think we are demographically in danger. But I think also,
00:35:32.220
if we took a broken windows of policing approach and just snuffed out this trespass,
00:35:37.180
vandalism and anti-Semitism in the first bud, I think Canada would be...
00:35:42.480
Yeah, well, I mean, look, if you wanted to go back, October 7th was the capstone on years and
00:35:49.660
years of ignoring anti-Semitism. Look, Al-Quds Day, how many times did Rebel News cover
00:35:57.140
violently anti-Semitic language in those marches by imams, sometimes in Arabic, sometimes in English?
00:36:08.440
They knew what the cutoff was before they would get arrested. So they avoided certain things. But
00:36:13.440
when they would speak in Arabic, very often they would be saying real hate speech. And none of them
00:36:20.000
were ever arrested. Nobody was ever arrested. And there's your broken window.
00:36:23.540
So they set the stage and they, and the government made it clear, law enforcement made it clear,
00:36:32.020
you know, keep it in the street, keep it, keep it to your own followers. We won't interfere,
00:36:38.720
because we don't, we don't want to be called racist. So we go back years and years and years,
00:36:43.380
and we would see how this all began. Also, Students for Justice in Palestine,
00:36:49.460
Sandby Dune, all these, all these organizations that have been either linked to funding of terrorism,
00:36:56.400
or one way or another to the Muslim Brotherhood. Nobody ever took the Muslim Brotherhood seriously.
00:37:01.540
The Muslim Brotherhood is a worldwide organization that Arab countries do not want operating in their
00:37:07.380
states, because they know how disruptive and how apocalyptic it is. They have an agenda that is
00:37:15.100
actually extremely anti-Western, and with an endgame of actually conquering the West and replacing.
00:37:28.920
This has been completely ignored for so many years, because nobody wanted to bell that cat. You know,
00:37:35.660
it's, it was, they were so afraid of being called racist. But, you know, it's funny. I mean,
00:37:41.880
the government that won't assert rules against trespassing or assault, now wants to bring in C63
00:37:48.460
hate speech. I can tell you, they're not going to use hate speech rules against people that they won't
00:37:53.580
even use assault rules against, or, or death threats. The hate speech rules will be for you and me,
00:37:59.760
I can assure you that. I know. Barbara, it's great to catch up with you. Keep up the fight in the National
00:38:04.520
Post. Part of the burden of Rex's passing falls to you to keep up his ideas. And I know that you'll
00:38:11.320
execute that duty. And all of us will try a little bit to do so as well. Thanks for spending so much
00:38:16.940
time with us today. Pleasure, as always, Ezra. Thank you. That's our pleasure, too. There you have it.
00:38:21.360
Barbara Kay, columnist for the National Post. Stay with us. Your letters to me next.
00:38:34.520
Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. This is about Sid Fazard's coverage
00:38:40.620
of the Calgary police versus the Hamas encampment. Brenda Stabileski says,
00:38:47.280
student unions need to be held accountable and given the bills for cleanup and cost of police.
00:38:52.240
Students should be expelled and deported, if not Canadian citizens. You know, I agree with that.
00:38:57.100
It's like if someone is in your house and is saying outrageous and racist things. If they're
00:39:03.320
your son or daughter, you know, they live there, you got to put up with it and try and correct them.
00:39:07.800
But if they're a foreign guest, just at your pleasure in your house, kick them out. My view
00:39:13.580
would be the same for these encampments. If someone is a Canadian citizen, listen, use your free speech.
00:39:19.660
If you're a Canadian citizen breaking the law, you should be charged. But if you're a foreign national
00:39:24.920
here on a student visa purportedly to learn and get an education, but instead you're doing this,
00:39:31.300
deport. Kathy Ray says, not sure anyone noticed as they were clearing protesters, the protesters had
00:39:39.540
the choices of leaving east, west, and south. Most chose to walk back to taunt police and then act
00:39:45.740
like they were unjustly attacked. Make a wrong choice, pay the consequences. You know, it's incredible
00:39:52.440
how long the police waited before doing anything. And of course, they're waiting even longer at
00:39:58.640
University of Toronto, McGill and other places. And these are protests on private property. These
00:40:04.640
are protests governed by other rules besides just the law, rules of a university. And it's just
00:40:10.800
incredible to me that the police in places like Montreal abide lawbreaking, not just noisy protests,
00:40:19.880
but outright lawbreaking for weeks or months. Compare that to the brutal crackdown on peaceful
00:40:25.520
truckers who did nothing more than honk their horns or maybe had to view parking violations.
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That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
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to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.