Rebel News Podcast - November 14, 2023


EZRA LEVANT | Beyond 'doom-scrolling' through the propaganda pipeline — not everything is as bleak as it seems


Episode Stats

Length

45 minutes

Words per Minute

162.30258

Word Count

7,372

Sentence Count

574

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

57


Summary

I m going to try and cobble together some good news. I ve been doom scrolling for too long, and I want to show you a few things that gave me some hope, and maybe they'll give you hope too.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. I'm going to try and cobble together some good news. I tell you, I've been
00:00:03.280 doom scrolling for too long, and I want to show you a few things that gave me some hope,
00:00:07.480 and maybe they'll give you hope too. But before I get to that, let me invite you to get a
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00:00:15.400 you some footage from Gaza that I think will give you some hope. Go to rebelnewsplus.com,
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00:00:47.420 Tonight, I think I can scrape together some good news. It's November 14th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:53.980 We're fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you sensorism bug.
00:01:09.440 If you are online or extremely online, you get a distorted view of the world. That's one of the
00:01:16.040 problems with young people hooked on their phones. They're fed an alternative reality,
00:01:20.620 an augmented reality that comes mainly these days from a Chinese company called ByteDance,
00:01:27.080 which owns TikTok. That's the leading social media app for North American teenagers, and it is a huge
00:01:33.400 pipeline of propaganda. Pro-China, pro-Russia, pro-Hamas. I find that interesting myself.
00:01:41.760 I'm on TikTok because I'm a news commentator. To be candid, I find a lot of information on TikTok
00:01:46.620 that I don't find in the mainstream media I normally consume or even the independent media
00:01:51.140 I normally consume. I always seek to verify anything I see on TikTok through other sources,
00:01:56.260 but it is a window into worlds that I normally don't have. I want to see the propaganda of the
00:02:02.600 other side because sometimes it's actually true on rare occasion, but even if it's not,
00:02:07.340 I think I'm savvy enough to identify it as propaganda, and it's still useful for me to know it,
00:02:13.100 to get a read on the whole picture of the world. I want to know what the other side is saying.
00:02:18.260 But what happens if you're 14 years old or 16 years old or 18 years old, and you haven't really
00:02:23.580 studied your own history? It's not even really taught anymore anywhere, is it? And you aren't
00:02:28.920 well grounded in your own identity, your own country's identity. You haven't heard your side
00:02:33.620 of the story, but now you're immersed in your enemy's side of the story. That's what's happening.
00:02:38.820 It's a direct pipeline from our enemies, foreign dictatorships, foreign propaganda networks like
00:02:44.440 Al Jazeera and other state broadcasters directly into the hearts and minds of our young people.
00:02:50.240 It's never happened before in history. It wasn't technically possible. I mean,
00:02:54.580 imagine if Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan back in the 30s and 40s had a way to communicate directly
00:03:00.440 with millions of young Americans, planting seeds of doubt, encouraging dissent,
00:03:04.640 even violent dissent, normalizing being anti-patriotic, normalizing being pro-terrorism,
00:03:11.860 normalizing anti-Semitism. I like to follow accounts online that inspire me,
00:03:17.500 that are a role model for me. I like to follow some non-political accounts too,
00:03:21.380 some comedians, some musicians. But I have always made a point of watching what my critics and
00:03:26.260 opponents say to know the other side of the story, to know what I have to rebut,
00:03:29.600 and occasionally to acknowledge that the other side once in a while has a point,
00:03:32.980 once in a while that make me reconsider my own thoughts. So I sample from the enemy.
00:03:37.960 I look at anti-Semitic and pro-Hamas and pro-woke accounts. But look,
00:03:42.620 there is no way you can consume that much enemy propaganda without having it emotionally affect
00:03:48.760 you. You start to think that everyone in the world is a barbarian and that everyone in the world is full
00:03:54.500 of bloodlust. Everyone's cheering for violence, that countries far away are reverting to ancient levels
00:03:59.800 of barbarity and violence and cruelty, as Hobbes would say, where life was solitary, poor, nasty, brutish,
00:04:07.680 and short. And when you see our own Canadian civility, our politeness, our mutual friendship,
00:04:13.160 our high-trust society, our sense of community being replaced by people who cheer for violence.
00:04:18.820 And worst of all, when our own national leaders abide it and our media encourage it or hide it.
00:04:26.600 I can't believe this tweet from CTV News last night. A woman was murdered by Hamas, a Canadian woman,
00:04:33.700 and she was so brutalized it took weeks to identify her remains. And here's what CTV News said,
00:04:40.140 quote, Canadian peace activist Vivian Silver, who went missing after Hamas attack, has died.
00:04:50.120 Really, just died. And here's what Trudeau's foreign minister said about the same woman,
00:04:55.700 Melanie Jolie says,
00:04:57.600 Vivian Silver was a proud Israeli-Canadian and lifelong advocate for peace. I met her son in Tel Aviv and he
00:05:04.280 described her as kind, generous, and selfless. Canada mourns her loss with him and her loved ones.
00:05:10.140 So she's lost. It's a loss. She's lost. Is she? What happened? Did COVID get her, maybe?
00:05:18.520 Why won't Melanie Jolie say what happened to her, that she was murdered? Why won't Jolie say,
00:05:23.240 who did the murder? You know why. Oh, and another synagogue was vandalized.
00:05:31.140 What does the Quinty News have to say? Place of worship vandalized. Oh, that's pretty generic. I'll read
00:05:39.200 the entire article to you. A place of worship in Belleville's East End was vandalized early
00:05:46.420 Tuesday. City police report a congregation member called saying he'd advised a man who approached
00:05:52.260 the front of the building at 6.30 in the morning that it was closed to the public. At that point,
00:05:56.920 it's alleged, the man walked to the west side of the place of worship and smashed a window.
00:06:00.520 Police arrived quickly and arrested a 44-year-old suspect from British Columbia and charged him with
00:06:05.540 mischief under $5,000. He was held for a bail hearing. Police say there's no evidence to suggest
00:06:10.620 the crime was hate-motivated. Oh, really? Is that the case? Then why won't you say it's a synagogue?
00:06:18.720 And what is the name of the accused attacker? You'd have to check a different newspaper to learn any
00:06:25.960 actual facts about it. There's a synagogue, of course. My point is, if you only look at the world
00:06:30.860 through a certain lens, it looks pretty bleak. The kids call it doom scrolling. When people keep going
00:06:36.800 through their social media feeds hour after hour, just consuming more and more and more bleak news,
00:06:41.360 I do that sometimes. But doom scrolling can get you down. Sometimes you just have to put the cell phone
00:06:48.660 down and go outside for a walk, I say, giving myself advice. And although we have to be skeptics,
00:06:54.960 and I'd rather be a pessimist who's proven wrong than an optimist who's proven wrong. I hate saying
00:06:59.840 the words, I told you so. But I still think maybe once in a while we ought to take a moment to look
00:07:04.940 at some good news. It's not great news, but it is not completely bleak out there. Let me share with
00:07:09.940 you some okay news. For one thing, today, there are about a quarter million people who marched in
00:07:16.780 Washington, D.C. in support of Israel and against anti-Semitism. And it was peaceful. And there were no
00:07:22.100 threats and no calls for genocide or jihad. There were Israeli flags and U.S. flags too.
00:07:27.480 And it was positive. It was sad, but it was positive. And the fact that a quarter million
00:07:31.520 Jews and righteous Gentiles went out to march is remarkable. I mean, the woke left are professional
00:07:37.640 activists. They are often students or government workers or even people on social assistance.
00:07:42.560 They are at leisure, let's say. They're the kind of perpetual rent-a-mob with professional
00:07:47.700 activists and organizers like public sector union bosses and antifa types. But the crowd
00:07:54.080 today was very different. Severely normal people who don't usually go to protests. I found it
00:07:59.280 encouraging. I even saw some Democrats there. And that made me feel good, not because I like
00:08:04.880 Democrats, but because it confirmed for me that no, the entire Democratic Party has not
00:08:09.720 yet lost its mind and gone full Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, full Ilhan Omar. And that there are even
00:08:15.920 some Democrats willing to stand for Israel's right to exist and Israel's right to fight back
00:08:21.080 against a Nazi-style terrorist group. Here's a U.S. State Department spokesman, Matthew Miller is his
00:08:27.480 name, actually pushing back on the blood libel that Israel is attacking hospitals. Listen to this
00:08:33.800 yesterday. We would love to see all the people that are calling for Israel to take steps to protect
00:08:37.820 hospitals call for Hamas to vacate the hospitals and stop using civilians as human shields. We would
00:08:43.280 love to see Hamas take some of the fuel reserves it's sitting on and use that to supply hospitals
00:08:48.320 in northern Gaza. We would love to see Hamas have taken the fuel that Israel offered it yesterday
00:08:53.940 that they declined for use at Al-Shifa Hospital. So it's a very difficult situation. And I would say
00:09:01.140 as a principle, I'll just re-say what I said at the top, we do not want to see civilians caught in the
00:09:04.980 crossfire. I found that clarity surprising and encouraging. Here's the German Chancellor standing up
00:09:09.960 to the new Hamas-Nazis just yesterday. Aren't you glad to hear this in German?
00:09:14.120 Israel is about a democracy. That must be very clearly said. And there is no doubt about it.
00:09:20.620 And we will also emphasize that in every conversation and every chance that this is our view of things.
00:09:27.320 In other words, a country that is entitled to human rights, that is entitled to the people's rights,
00:09:31.000 that is entitled to the people's rights, and that is also entitled to its actions. And that is why the
00:09:36.620 actions that are taken against Israel are absurd. And there is no doubt about it.
00:09:42.780 That's good news. I mentioned to you the other day that the Muslim Brotherhood Front Group,
00:09:47.580 called the National Council of Canadian Muslims, they commissioned a poll about Canadian views
00:09:52.220 on Hamas. Only 8% of Canadians called Hamas freedom fighters. The rest saw them as terrorists
00:09:57.660 or a front group for Iran. I'm sort of surprised that the NCCM published that poll anyways,
00:10:03.100 because it makes them look so obscure and marginal and radical. And I also see the latest polling
00:10:09.340 numbers federally for the election. And Justin Trudeau has never been this low. It's his worst ever.
00:10:16.700 He's almost behind the NDPs, almost in third place. And yes, there are lots of reasons besides
00:10:22.300 his handling of the Hamas-Israel issue, of course. Inflation, cost of living, cost of housing,
00:10:27.100 crime, his bizarre carbon tax, his carbon tax exemption just for his friends, a zillion things.
00:10:31.980 I know that. But those were all in effect five weeks ago. He has fallen to a record low
00:10:37.260 in the past five weeks. And I put it to you that his handling of the war issue is part of it.
00:10:42.780 He'll never be pro-Hamas enough for the extremists, but his attempt to pander to them,
00:10:49.100 nonetheless, is so palpable and so gross to the majority of Canadians who see it for what it is.
00:10:54.300 I actually think that his approach to the war is hurting him in the polls.
00:11:00.300 He'll never be able to outbid the kooky NDP and Green Party in terms of anti-Semitism.
00:11:05.500 So he's losing some Islamist support to them, but he's losing more normal Canadian voters
00:11:11.180 because he's so awfully apologetic for Hamas and he so grossly smears Israel. And then they have
00:11:16.620 atrocious comments like Melanie Jolie. I say again that one of the safest places in the world right now
00:11:21.980 to be a Jew, as crazy as it sounds, is the United Arab Emirates. Because they don't allow pro-Hamas
00:11:28.860 marches. They don't allow actual violence of pro-terrorists or pro-terrorist activism.
00:11:35.580 I've heard it said about Saudi Arabia too. Look at this news story. It's an Arab report,
00:11:41.340 but it cites the Wall Street Journal that says the Saudi military apparently shot down a ballistic
00:11:46.940 missile shot by Iran-backed extremists in Yemen that was aimed at Israel. I saw an unsourced report
00:11:55.420 that Jordan did the same thing about a missile shot from Iraq. Now you have to take these reports
00:12:01.900 with a grain of salt. Maybe it was an Israeli interceptor or maybe an American one. There's
00:12:07.580 two aircraft carriers out there. But my point is just because Hamas and its sponsor Iran and its
00:12:14.540 safe heart of Qatar and all the Western universities because they all love Hamas doesn't mean the rest
00:12:20.220 of the Arab world does. A lot of countries are not thrilled about what Israel is doing, but they
00:12:26.140 understand that Hamas launched a brutal terrorist attack. One that Israel had to respond to and one that
00:12:32.060 was clearly designed to fracture the Abraham Accords peace deal. And that Accords was seeing remarkable
00:12:39.340 peace progress between Israel and its Arab neighbors. I think that peace remains in place. I think that is
00:12:45.900 good news. But here's what I think is the best news. Put aside the politics, put aside the media spin,
00:12:52.300 the street marches. What is happening to Hamas itself? Well, the Israeli Defense Forces are actually
00:12:59.580 destroying Hamas. They found hundreds of tunnels. They found hundreds of weapons caches. And they've
00:13:07.340 taken out hundreds, likely thousands, of terrorists. They've sealed off northern Gaza, cut it off from
00:13:13.740 the other parts, and are clearing it of terrorists. Here, watch some of the footage.
00:13:29.580 I was really worried that attacking Gaza would be like Stalingrad in the Second World War. Here's a
00:13:47.420 movie about it called Enemy of the Gates. It was one of the bloodiest battles in world history. Every
00:13:52.460 single Russian was fighting against hundreds of thousands of Nazis in a city. But that's not
00:13:58.140 happening here. Gaza has tens of thousands of terrorists. It's true. And they hide behind 2.2
00:14:05.500 million citizens. It's true. But those civilians themselves have no intention of being soldiers.
00:14:12.700 Israel opened up safe corridors for them to move to the south. Hamas actually shot some of the civilians
00:14:18.540 who left. Hamas wanted the human shields to stay. But with the civilians gone and Hamas cut off,
00:14:24.860 Israel has gone in and had remarkable success. I was terrified of Israel's soldiers getting bogged down
00:14:32.140 down in urban warfare and those terrifying underground tunnels. Here's one of their tunnel solutions,
00:14:38.860 dogs.
00:14:51.580 Israel pumps in purple smoke and they see where the smoke comes out, to see where the ventilator shafts are. There's
00:14:57.260 all sorts of technological ideas so that they're not trapped in these tunnels hunting for Hamas.
00:15:03.580 Hamas has always been quick to accuse Israel of targeting hospitals because they know Israel
00:15:11.020 doesn't want to be targeted.
00:15:11.900 Israel pumps in purple smoke and they see where the smoke comes out, to see where the ventilator shafts are.
00:15:20.940 There's all sorts of technological ideas so that they're not trapped in these tunnels hunting for Hamas.
00:15:26.700 As you know, Hamas has always been quick to accuse Israel of targeting hospitals
00:15:30.860 because they know Israel doesn't want to do that. And the Western media would be shocked
00:15:36.460 by that. Hence the false accusation about a month ago of Israel allegedly launching a rocket at a hospital.
00:15:42.700 It turned out to be a terrorist rocket gone awry.
00:15:47.180 But of course, Hamas does actually have its main base underneath the biggest hospital in Gaza.
00:15:54.300 As I think about that, they actually did it on purpose. They used the biggest hospital as a giant human shield,
00:16:01.420 knowing that Israel would never attack Hamas headquarters for that reason.
00:16:07.980 By the way, the United States attacked the big hospital in Mosul, Iraq, when the U.S. was taking out ISIS.
00:16:14.700 And that was just normal warfare, collateral damage. That was just a few years ago. But I guess the rules are different for Israel.
00:16:20.300 Anyway, so Israel evacuated the hospital and helped to do so.
00:16:26.940 Israel has actually brought in its own doctors, obviously, and has helped ordinary people in Gaza.
00:16:33.180 But now that the big hospital is cleared out of civilians, Hamas no longer has its human shields.
00:16:39.900 Here, let me show you what one other hospital looked like yesterday when Israel found it. I showed a bit of this yesterday.
00:16:46.300 You can see the tunnel. The tunnel is let down more than 20 meters down. The robot found a door, a door that is bulletproof.
00:16:56.060 It's explosive proof. So it looks like a hard evidence, a clear evidence that the hospital direction is connected.
00:17:06.540 This is a cover tunnel. It's part of the same floor and it slides down here.
00:17:11.900 So it's a cover tunnel so nobody can find it. This is Rantisi Hospital.
00:17:20.460 And this is the place where I showed you the tunnel. I want you to see.
00:17:24.460 We are now, we are now in the area of the basement of the hospital.
00:17:34.460 I want to show you a room where we found all the gear, the operational gear of Hamas.
00:17:39.740 Hamas is using hospitals like we showed the evidence in Shifa hospital, in other hospitals.
00:17:45.180 Today, there is more video footage of Israeli troops taking command bunkers and other hidden
00:17:50.300 headquarters, as well as the legislature of Gaza, which, of course, hasn't been used.
00:17:55.660 Gaza is not a democracy. Hamas won one election and that's the only election that's ever been held.
00:18:00.620 What's so scary to me is that Hamas has fled and taken their hostages with them.
00:18:07.340 But Israel has scoured northern Gaza of most of its terrorists and is about to close in on the
00:18:12.700 headquarters. Unfortunately, Hamas leaders have always been safe in Qatar or other countries.
00:18:18.220 The head of the snake won't easily be cut off. But here's my point.
00:18:23.980 Public relations and spin is a battleground. Politics and media, that is a battleground.
00:18:29.980 And that's what we care about in the news business, of course, but the real battleground
00:18:33.660 is the battle on the ground. And in remarkable time, with remarkably few casualties, both the
00:18:39.260 Israelis and Gaza civilians, Israel has extirpated Hamas terrorists from half the Gaza Strip
00:18:45.820 and freed from the threat of Hamas. Some civilians are actually starting to talk candidly about having
00:18:52.540 terrorists run the city. Terrorists, by the way, who flee the city when the shooting starts against
00:18:58.220 them. Look, hard days lie ahead for sure. And who knows what Joe Biden will try to order Israel to do
00:19:04.140 or what Iran and Hezbollah might try and do. Who knows? It might be about to turn especially bleak.
00:19:09.340 But for now, the military success against Hamas is some good news.
00:19:14.060 Make no mistake, this will be a war until the end. Hamas says so themselves.
00:19:19.900 The community is some good news.
00:19:21.740 This world is today. What is this Mpace
00:19:49.500 So either the war, as Hamas wants, will be fought long and slow and painfully, or Israel
00:20:02.680 destroys Hamas now before Hamas can attack again and again as they threaten to do.
00:20:08.060 Look, war is never good news.
00:20:09.960 But the speedy conclusion of this war could mean the eventual peace will come more quickly
00:20:16.360 and hopefully will come soon.
00:20:18.400 And when it does, Israel has some important questions it has to answer, like how could
00:20:23.280 that attack have happened in the first place?
00:20:25.320 What went wrong?
00:20:26.260 And what is the path forward for Gaza?
00:20:29.460 And what will happen to Iran?
00:20:32.160 But we here in Canada and across the West will have important questions we need to answer
00:20:36.380 too, like how do we denazify our own country of the masses of pro-violence haters that we
00:20:44.340 have seen on our streets these past weeks?
00:20:46.860 Stay with us for more.
00:21:00.000 One of the things I hate the most about COVID is how it normalized wearing masks.
00:21:05.080 I mean, unless you were a welder or a dentist, the only people who wore masks were bank robbers
00:21:12.080 and terrorists.
00:21:14.620 It's something that Antifa and pro-Hamas extremists have taken advantage of where they can, first
00:21:21.620 of all, hide their own identity, making it harder to identify them if they break the law.
00:21:25.640 And second of all, it's menacing.
00:21:27.960 There's a reason why we show each other our faces, why we smile, why we show each other
00:21:33.460 our eyes.
00:21:34.240 The phrase, look them in the eye.
00:21:35.820 The eye is the window to the soul.
00:21:37.660 There's a lot of terrible things that happen by allowing masking to become normal again.
00:21:43.320 And one pro-Hamas student in Canada recently thought that she would go full mask on, in a
00:21:51.700 way, dropping her mask and revealing what's in her heart.
00:21:55.500 This feels like an ISIS video because I think it sort of is.
00:22:01.900 Here, watch a two-minute video by someone who purports to be a student in Ontario.
00:22:07.240 Watch this and we'll talk about it afterwards.
00:22:09.460 Take a look.
00:22:09.920 We are a group of high school students in Ontario that are appalled and disgusted by
00:22:15.380 the Ontario District School Board's silencing of pro-Palestinian voices.
00:22:20.320 Our mission is to ensure that Palestinian children and teens feel safe expressing their
00:22:25.220 identity at school and in public spaces.
00:22:28.100 As Palestinians who grew up in the Canadian school system, we have been denied our identities
00:22:32.960 and heritage by many teachers and staff members.
00:22:35.600 Many teachers growing up have always pressured us into questioning our identities and made
00:22:40.740 us feel guilty for being who we are.
00:22:43.040 We have been treated as second-class to Israelis.
00:22:46.080 We are sick and tired of telling the world that we exist and constantly having to prove
00:22:50.640 our existence to people.
00:22:52.360 We want teachers and school staff and the school board to be held accountable for anti-Palestinian
00:22:57.600 rhetoric and we want them to face consequences if they attack or harass children into feeling
00:23:02.880 inadequate for being born Palestinian.
00:23:05.600 We have a list of demands.
00:23:07.560 If our demands fail to be met, then it will be clear to all of us that our education system
00:23:12.040 targets Indigenous populations and does not actually believe that Indigenous people deserve
00:23:16.820 rights.
00:23:17.820 Put your words into action if you truly stand for Indigenous people.
00:23:21.480 We demand a section in our curriculum that focuses on teaching the history of colonization
00:23:26.960 and ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
00:23:28.440 We also want students to understand Canada's role and complicity of land theft in Palestine.
00:23:34.400 We demand that Palestine is acknowledged and studied extensively during the lessons on
00:23:39.140 World War I and II during history classes.
00:23:42.020 We demand that Palestinian students be treated equally and given our safe space in school to
00:23:47.280 grieve for their families and communities that have been subject to senseless death by Israel.
00:23:51.520 Palestinian and non-Palestinian students alike have been crying every night because of how
00:23:57.280 helpless they feel towards the plight of Palestinians in Gaza.
00:24:00.960 We demand that the Ontario District School Board acknowledge that Palestinians are being ethnically
00:24:05.940 cleansed.
00:24:06.680 We deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.
00:24:09.600 We deserve to be who we are without fearing unjust consequences on our education and future
00:24:14.400 endeavors.
00:24:14.780 We are calling all pro-Palestinian voices to shake the ground on November 13th with students
00:24:21.280 across the province.
00:24:22.420 To shake the ground.
00:24:23.760 You know, it's a little bizarre to have someone masked like that in the dark, making a list
00:24:29.600 of demands.
00:24:30.780 The one thing that stood out to me the most was that the enemy she talked about was Israelis,
00:24:36.980 which she implies that there are hordes of Israelis in school in Ontario, and they're the
00:24:43.600 favored ones.
00:24:44.380 You know, I got to tell you, I would be surprised if there were 10 Israelis in the Toronto District
00:24:49.860 School Board.
00:24:50.500 Maybe there's a few more.
00:24:51.740 But I don't think that there are many Israelis going to school in Toronto.
00:24:55.740 I mean, maybe there are a few.
00:24:56.640 I think it's pretty obvious that she meant to say those damn Jews, but that sounds a little
00:25:03.200 bit racist-y.
00:25:04.700 I actually don't believe that our schools are anti-Palestinian.
00:25:09.600 In fact, I think most teachers are so woke, they're pro-Palestinian.
00:25:14.720 I don't even believe that the new Holocaust education programs will have any effect.
00:25:20.640 They'll show Schindler's List for an hour, and anti-Semites like this young girl will
00:25:24.980 watch it and probably take notes on how Hitler did it.
00:25:28.080 Just the other day, we saw a principal of a school in Brampton engage in insane and obscene
00:25:38.300 anti-Semitic social media posts so much that the education minister had to weigh in on the
00:25:43.120 subject.
00:25:43.740 I simply don't believe her allegations.
00:25:45.960 But I think the main story here is that you have Palestinian youth, or she claims to be
00:25:56.180 Palestinian, for all we know, she's not, mimicking the style of terrorists, normalizing the style
00:26:05.320 of terrorists, a mass face, threatening demands.
00:26:10.840 Joining us to talk about this is our friend Sue Ann Levy, who writes for True North.
00:26:14.740 Sue Ann, great to see you again.
00:26:16.780 Great to see you, Ezra.
00:26:18.080 You know, I just can't get over the fact that she's just sick of all those Israelis in Ontario.
00:26:26.060 There are some Israelis in Ontario, but that's obviously not what she's talking about.
00:26:31.180 No, it was, you know, she dressed her anti-Semitism in the guise of Israelis.
00:26:36.540 And that's been the big, one of the big issues throughout this, the five weeks since October
00:26:42.140 7th, is that Jew haters will say, oh, I only hate Zionists, or I only hate Israel, or the
00:26:49.420 government of Israel.
00:26:51.240 Israel's a Jewish state.
00:26:53.220 Zionists are largely, or Jews are largely Zionists.
00:26:56.400 So they're really talking about Jews.
00:26:58.260 You know that, Ezra, and I know that.
00:26:59.820 You know, I want to say, if there was discrimination against Arab or Muslim kids in schools, if teachers
00:27:08.100 were bigoted against them, if they were demeaning them or defaming them, I would be against that,
00:27:13.580 of course.
00:27:14.260 I mean, that would be absurd and obscene.
00:27:16.600 I have seen no evidence of that whatsoever, not even on social media, not even allegations
00:27:22.440 of that, what I have seen are, just today, a synagogue in, I think it was in Barrie, was
00:27:30.540 vandalized, and neither the police nor the media identified it as a synagogue.
00:27:35.040 They talked about a place of worship.
00:27:37.440 They wouldn't even say it was a synagogue.
00:27:39.160 You had to find out for yourself.
00:27:40.880 We know that a Jewish school in Montreal was shot with a gun twice in a week.
00:27:47.400 We know that a synagogue in Montreal had a Molotov cocktail thrown at it.
00:27:52.220 So I can see without my own eyes, I can see the hate marches in our streets.
00:27:56.920 I can see the vandalism.
00:27:58.740 I can see the don't buy from Jews boycotts against Jewish-owned or Jewish-themed businesses.
00:28:06.040 I see all that.
00:28:07.660 And for her to have a terrorist-style demand video, I think it's an attempt to try and take
00:28:15.380 some moral sympathy away from the Jews by pretending that she has been through this same suffering.
00:28:21.380 But I think the number one takeaway for me is they're practicing that jihadist style.
00:28:28.460 They're affecting the style.
00:28:30.740 They're following their role models.
00:28:33.600 And there may be 1,000 or 10,000 who go through the motions, but maybe one out of every 10,000
00:28:40.180 will actually act on it by smashing something, vandalizing something, shooting something.
00:28:45.860 I think they're psychologically training a whole generation of people to actually move
00:28:53.200 from extreme words to issuing demands to what comes next.
00:29:00.480 Well, I think we're just this close to violence in Toronto and Montreal, for example.
00:29:06.040 And it scares me because the anger on the streets of Toronto and of Montreal, but in particular
00:29:13.540 Toronto, because I'm here in Toronto, has just been unbelievable, horrific.
00:29:21.580 And, you know, the banging on the windows of Jewish-owned businesses and the intimidation
00:29:28.660 of people at Aroma Cafe, for example, the Israeli-owned Aroma Cafe.
00:29:33.280 And I think my concern is because the politicians, because our police force, they're trying to
00:29:40.500 handle it, but they're not really handling it that well.
00:29:42.180 And our politicians aren't saying enough is enough, that these people will be emboldened
00:29:47.340 and it'll just ramp, continue to ramp up.
00:29:50.280 That is my concern.
00:29:51.980 And this young lady has nothing to complain about.
00:29:55.860 Absolutely nothing to complain about.
00:29:57.180 So the school system, TDSB and other boards are so woke that all I've been seeing is real
00:30:05.180 Jew hatred on social media from various and sundry people within the school system, teachers,
00:30:11.800 administrators.
00:30:13.360 What is she complaining about?
00:30:14.620 I think she's just trying to jump on this bandwagon of, you know, poor me, the victimization.
00:30:19.840 And I also say to you that when I watched her making her demands, it reminded me of Black
00:30:25.160 Lives Matter during the Pride Parade, sitting at the corner of Yonge and Dundas or Yonge
00:30:30.000 and College, making their list of demands.
00:30:32.660 What is it with these people who feel they're oppressed making all these demands?
00:30:37.560 The weird thing was she was talking about indigenous rights, but she's not from Canada.
00:30:43.300 I mean, it's sort of bizarre that she's here talking about decolonization when either her
00:30:50.020 or her parents immigrated here.
00:30:52.080 I find that very weird.
00:30:53.220 Of course, Jews have been in the Holy Land since they were expelled from Egypt thousands
00:30:58.460 of years ago.
00:31:00.060 Well, she's trying to say that Israel is a colonial state.
00:31:02.440 This is their favorite buzzwords.
00:31:04.460 It's occupation, colonization.
00:31:07.720 It's appropriating the language of the Jews.
00:31:10.140 You're committing a holocaust.
00:31:12.540 You're committing a genocide.
00:31:14.360 You're the war criminals.
00:31:15.920 You're the haters.
00:31:17.100 You have colonized.
00:31:18.820 And I've seen more swastikas in the last month than I have maybe in my entire year combined,
00:31:26.160 my entire life combined.
00:31:28.740 And it's trying to demonize and denormalize the Jews as Nazis.
00:31:34.500 The target of the Nazis, the victims of the Nazis are being Nazified by the pro-Hamas types.
00:31:42.800 I find it incredible.
00:31:44.180 But I think it's sort of, I think they're testing the limits, Sue Ann.
00:31:48.420 It's like when that, go ahead.
00:31:50.000 Oh, I was just going to say that the politicians are so weak that there are no consequences.
00:31:57.500 And yes, they are testing the limits.
00:31:59.000 You know that.
00:31:59.700 I know that.
00:32:00.820 And nobody's pushing back on them.
00:32:03.120 I went to a Jewish rally, a pro-Israel rally on Sunday.
00:32:07.600 It was so quiet.
00:32:08.560 It was so peaceful.
00:32:09.740 No calls to boycott falafel, I mean a shawarma stand.
00:32:13.720 No calls to, you know, go after Palestinian businesses or gas the Palestinians.
00:32:19.920 I mean, their language is so inflammatory.
00:32:23.420 It's unreal.
00:32:24.620 You know, the only twinkle of hope I can find is in a poll by Main Street Research, commissioned
00:32:31.420 by the National Council for Canadian Muslims, which is a Muslim Brotherhood front group.
00:32:35.340 They found that fewer than 10% of Canadians regard Hamas as freedom fighters.
00:32:41.240 Like, the overwhelming number of Canadians hate this.
00:32:44.780 And I think that's one of the reasons why Justin Trudeau is at an all-time low in the
00:32:49.660 polls.
00:32:50.440 I think if you over-consume social media, you think, oh my God, everyone is against Israel
00:32:56.420 and the Jews and the world is supporting terrorism now because all the institutions feel that way
00:33:01.780 and social media is that way.
00:33:03.220 But I think ordinary Canadians, I hope this, Sue Ann, I hope they're appalled.
00:33:07.700 And you're right.
00:33:08.240 And by the way, I am open to the possibility that Palestinians or Arabs or Muslims could
00:33:14.540 be targeted.
00:33:15.120 I'm open to that possibility.
00:33:16.980 I'm not saying it's impossible.
00:33:18.380 But like you say, there's not mobs marching through the streets chanting for the death of
00:33:25.300 Muslims.
00:33:26.060 You're not seeing, you know, boycotts.
00:33:28.320 You're not seeing threats.
00:33:29.460 You're not seeing any of that.
00:33:31.540 You're not even seeing musing of it.
00:33:33.780 And I think, I think, I hope that's got to be detectable by ordinary Canadians.
00:33:41.360 But let me give you an example.
00:33:42.980 Here's this fellow, an Iranian activist.
00:33:46.760 I don't have proof of it, but I'm quite sure he's given his social media feed.
00:33:52.180 I mean, I follow him on Twitter.
00:33:54.060 He's just regurgitating every single thing that the government of Iran puts forward.
00:33:58.080 So I assume he's an agent of Iran, whether he's paid or not.
00:34:03.060 He did this stunt where he went into Cafe Landwehr, ordered a drink and then returned
00:34:08.160 and saying it tastes like blood.
00:34:09.960 The Filipino cashier didn't know what was going on.
00:34:12.100 He had his daughter there and the whole thing was filmed.
00:34:14.880 Just a bizarre, gross, weird, racist protest that didn't even make sense.
00:34:20.540 So I don't even think the Filipina cashier understood what was going on.
00:34:24.220 Here's a quick clip of that.
00:34:25.300 Take a look.
00:34:25.960 For a humanitarian purpose, they made a mistake and they bought from this company.
00:34:29.300 So it's really company.
00:34:30.460 These guys are supporting Palestine.
00:34:32.300 So we want to return it.
00:34:33.220 They bought it by accident.
00:34:34.080 I understand.
00:34:34.960 So, okay.
00:34:35.660 What else do I just give the drinks to you for free and then I'll refine the money?
00:34:40.280 Okay.
00:34:40.520 We don't want to drink it.
00:34:41.400 That's like drinking blood.
00:34:42.320 Oh, okay.
00:34:42.540 For us, like, so we've got to support free Palestine and you don't know what it is, right?
00:34:45.500 Yeah, it's okay.
00:34:46.500 Yeah.
00:34:47.240 You know what's happening there?
00:34:48.620 It's genocide?
00:34:49.140 Yeah.
00:34:49.700 How do you feel about it?
00:34:50.540 I feel so bad.
00:34:51.780 You know, nobody deserves that one.
00:34:53.720 Especially the kids.
00:34:54.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:56.120 I'll look into it and I'll give her a little bite.
00:34:59.260 Okay, I appreciate that.
00:35:00.180 Thank you.
00:35:00.660 God bless you.
00:35:02.060 I read from Philippines, right?
00:35:03.220 Yeah.
00:35:03.580 Filipinos are good people.
00:35:04.520 They always stand for human rights and for justice.
00:35:07.560 Yeah, I told you I'm starting to feel so bad.
00:35:10.000 Yeah, thank you.
00:35:12.120 Give me a second to see the...
00:35:14.260 Free free Palestine.
00:35:15.320 That guy is testing the limits.
00:35:17.860 He's seeing what he can get away with.
00:35:19.400 If he were a white man going into a black restaurant and saying racist things about lynchings or whatever, he would probably be arrested, but he's testing what he can get away with against the Jews.
00:35:32.640 And now he knows and he'll go a little bit further.
00:35:34.500 And I did my show on him last night.
00:35:36.780 He had this super gross fake Remembrance Day ceremony where he said Remembrance Day should be about our Hamas martyrs.
00:35:45.880 Like, he's so, so gross.
00:35:47.740 He's testing what he can get away with.
00:35:49.520 And the answer with our media and our politicians is, so far, unlimited.
00:35:54.860 They can literally do...
00:35:56.300 I have seen no comeuppance whatsoever.
00:35:59.060 And they'll keep going until someone is killed.
00:36:01.420 When you shoot at a Jewish school twice, I think it's fair to assume you're trying to kill someone and kill a child.
00:36:07.800 There will be murder before this is done, Sue.
00:36:11.060 And I'm certain, but I do not relish that fact.
00:36:13.420 But how can it not happen?
00:36:15.520 That gentleman, I hesitate to call him a gentle, Firas al-Najim.
00:36:19.120 I wrote about him a couple of years ago when I was still with Post Media.
00:36:22.740 And he's been harassing Jewish neighborhoods and showing up at Jewish rallies nonstop and trying to threaten people.
00:36:31.760 He came up to somebody in a wheelchair in a park where Jews frequent a couple of years ago.
00:36:38.820 I think he's not all there.
00:36:41.560 And to take his daughter into Café Landois to pull his little stunt, which didn't go anywhere.
00:36:47.100 And I think most people have his number.
00:36:49.260 But the problem is he isn't stopped.
00:36:52.140 And, you know, frankly, we Jews are far too polite.
00:36:54.940 We don't, you know, we say, okay, well, he's just a nutcase.
00:36:59.240 But these people are emboldened.
00:37:00.800 They keep doing what they're doing because they don't get stopped.
00:37:04.380 Yeah.
00:37:04.760 I mean, I don't know how many Muslims are in Canada.
00:37:06.440 It's at one and a half million, two million now.
00:37:08.360 And even if only one in a thousand believes everything and takes it to its ultimate conclusion.
00:37:14.440 I've always said this about the rhetoric about Donald Trump.
00:37:16.980 You have, for years, the mainstream media demonized Donald Trump as a Nazi.
00:37:22.380 How outlandish that is now.
00:37:24.400 We actually see real Nazis.
00:37:26.000 We see real Nazism.
00:37:27.180 And the same New York Times and BBC and CBC can't bring themselves to say it.
00:37:32.060 But they call Trump a Nazi.
00:37:33.100 And what worried me about that is if you tell 350 million Americans, 330 million Americans that Trump is a Nazi, what if one in a million actually believes it and says, oh, my God, this guy's the new Hitler.
00:37:46.220 I have to stop him from doing what Hitler did.
00:37:50.020 And what if one person says, I've got like, you know, that that thought experiment.
00:37:55.320 If you could go back in time, would you kill him?
00:37:57.660 It's just a mental experiment.
00:37:59.460 But what if someone thought this really is Hitler?
00:38:02.020 I have to kill him to save humanity.
00:38:03.880 And I say the same thing here.
00:38:05.620 If the entire Arab Muslim immigrant woke institutional community is saying Jews are the new Nazis, Jews are the devils, Jews are committing genocide.
00:38:16.740 But all these Israelis, Zionists, don't you mean Jews?
00:38:22.300 And what if one in a thousand, one in 10,000, one in 100,000, God forbid, acts on it?
00:38:29.000 That's that is an act of terrorism lurking, waiting.
00:38:35.420 And when you're dressing up and fetishizing the terrorist look, that was a terrorist look of that young woman.
00:38:42.240 She was going for that terrorist look on purpose.
00:38:44.900 That's not how Canadians talk.
00:38:46.220 If she has a grievance, say it.
00:38:48.440 If something bad happened to her at school, say it.
00:38:51.440 Report it.
00:38:52.080 There will be no shortage of journalists to report it.
00:38:54.400 There's no shortage of politicians who will come by to help her.
00:38:59.220 She did that for the menace of it.
00:39:01.760 We have a list of demands against the Israelis.
00:39:05.100 I think that that was a disgusting show of young people saying, how far can I go?
00:39:10.880 And they're LARPing right now, live action role playing.
00:39:13.580 They're LARPing being terrorists.
00:39:15.060 But then someone's going to take it seriously.
00:39:17.560 And there will be violence.
00:39:19.300 We've already seen, thank God they haven't killed anybody, Molotov cocktails and shots.
00:39:24.240 There will be violence, Sue Ann.
00:39:26.340 Yeah.
00:39:27.120 I, you know, that is my big concern.
00:39:29.380 Well, I don't know where hope will come from.
00:39:34.240 I don't see it in our federal government.
00:39:36.800 The Jews in parliament have been marginalized completely.
00:39:39.620 It's pitiful to me to see Jewish MPs like Anthony Housefather of Montreal and Yara Sachs in Toronto bleat on Twitter.
00:39:49.520 Oh, this is terrible.
00:39:50.620 And I'm thinking you're cabinet ministers.
00:39:52.220 You're literally cabinet ministers.
00:39:53.980 And you're reduced to whining on Twitter because the liberal Hamas caucus dominates that government.
00:39:58.980 There's nothing more pitiful than a liberal party Jew who's doing a Woody Allen shtick.
00:40:03.660 I don't know what to do.
00:40:04.420 I'm so good.
00:40:04.840 Because the government, the government is absolutely pro-Hamas.
00:40:10.360 Absolutely.
00:40:10.940 The most pro-Hamas government in the G7.
00:40:12.860 I think that Trudeau is the only prime minister who has not yet visited Israel in solidarity out of the G7.
00:40:19.540 Rishi Sunak, Joe Biden, Emmanuel Macron, the German chancellor, the Italian prime minister.
00:40:26.620 I think every G7 country, I think, has gone except for Canada.
00:40:31.900 I'd have to check that out.
00:40:32.960 But Justin Trudeau, who's at a record low in the polls, knows that this is his base.
00:40:39.040 This and the CBC journalists.
00:40:40.520 Last words to you, Sue Ann.
00:40:42.700 Well, you know, I have been watching this for, well, a long time.
00:40:47.980 But the last five years, I could see the rise in anti-Semitism from the left and from the Arab contingent.
00:40:56.780 I covered it many years ago.
00:40:59.700 I was one of the first to cover it.
00:41:01.080 And I really feared that it would explode.
00:41:04.820 And here we are.
00:41:06.560 And everybody denied it.
00:41:09.900 Buried their heads in the sand, including my own community.
00:41:13.680 And look what's come.
00:41:16.000 The chickens have come to roost, unfortunately.
00:41:18.220 Yeah.
00:41:18.380 You know, let me throw in a coda.
00:41:21.180 I was born and raised outside Calgary.
00:41:23.860 I went to school in the country.
00:41:26.060 My sister and I were the only Jews in the school.
00:41:29.480 My entire life, I did not have a single anti-Semitic incident.
00:41:34.020 Not one.
00:41:34.760 And I grew up and I traveled to every redneck place.
00:41:38.140 Not one drop of bigotry or anti-Semitism.
00:41:42.300 And I would tell you if I saw it, I simply did not.
00:41:45.140 This is not Canada.
00:41:46.660 This is being imported en masse.
00:41:49.020 We have not integrated or assimilated.
00:41:50.840 We have not vetted or demanded that newcomers to Canada subscribe to our view of pluralism and nonviolent solutions to problems and separation of mosque and state.
00:41:59.860 We have not demanded that.
00:42:01.700 And I know that this is not Canada, but it is becoming Canada.
00:42:06.100 If you bring in millions of people without testing for a cultural fit, and by that I mean, you know, do we agree to live in peace with each other and not bring ancient great grievances and hatreds here?
00:42:18.760 This will become Canada.
00:42:20.460 And we will wreck the beautiful place that we've lived in.
00:42:24.380 I find it very sad.
00:42:25.560 But Sue Ann, your article in True North is called Pro-Palestine Student Activists Need to Be Educated About Israel and Gaza.
00:42:33.420 Alas, I don't think education will work.
00:42:35.320 They have a deep, deep, deep hatred.
00:42:37.440 Great to see you, my friend.
00:42:38.280 Keep up the fight.
00:42:39.640 Nice to see you.
00:42:40.620 And Kate, stay safe, my dear.
00:42:42.080 I will.
00:42:42.620 You too.
00:42:43.040 There you have it.
00:42:43.520 Sue Ann Levy of True North.
00:42:45.180 Stay with us.
00:42:45.800 Your letters to me next.
00:42:55.560 Hey, welcome back.
00:42:59.980 You know, in my discussion with Sue Ann, I said Barry instead of Belleville.
00:43:05.560 It was the Belleville synagogue that was vandalized.
00:43:10.460 You can get down in the dumps when you look around and all you see are the haters.
00:43:15.420 But Richard Nixon is the one who talked about the silent majority.
00:43:19.280 And he said just because crickets are making a lot of noise doesn't mean they're the only people in a field.
00:43:24.580 It could be a lot of cattle quietly chewing.
00:43:26.900 He said it more poetically than that.
00:43:29.420 And it's been such a disastrous five weeks, not just for the terrorist barbarity that happened to Israel on October 7th, but everything since.
00:43:37.900 It's been terrible to see what's happened across the West since.
00:43:40.200 But maybe these polls that I've quoted are a sense of comfort, and maybe it's not just you and me who are repulsed by seeing this new form of Nazism on the streets.
00:43:52.000 Maybe other Canadians and Americans are, and aren't you heartened by what Germany is saying and doing?
00:43:58.100 Doesn't that feel good for the country that got it so wrong 80 years ago to get it so right these days?
00:44:04.320 And isn't it interesting to see the Democrats who are atrocious on these things, at least some of them speaking out today?
00:44:12.540 I don't know.
00:44:13.180 I want to stay hopeful.
00:44:14.480 That's what we have to do.
00:44:16.500 You know, Islamism is a death cult.
00:44:19.700 They all want to be a martyr.
00:44:21.760 Whereas I think the Christian, the Judeo-Christian West is about life.
00:44:26.500 I mean, a lot of Christian teachings are about life, the phrase pro-life.
00:44:30.880 And the Jews, when they say l'chaim, it's a form of saying cheers in Hebrew, that actually means to life, l'chaim.
00:44:38.760 And I don't know if you may not recognize it.
00:44:41.780 Jews who wear necklaces somewhere are a little Star of David, but somewhere two little letters that say chai, which means life.
00:44:47.640 I think this really is a battle between the forces of light and darkness and the forces of life and death.
00:44:54.380 And the Judeo-Christian West and others, too, not just them, I mean, Hindus and Sikhs and moderate Islam, they believe in life.
00:45:03.560 But these death cult Hamas, ISIS, Nazis, they love death and they want to deal it.
00:45:11.440 And hopefully the lovers of life will prevail.
00:45:14.080 That's our show for today.
00:45:15.860 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:45:20.340 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:45:21.720 Good night.
00:45:22.600 Good night.