EZRA LEVANT ｜ Britain is down but not out as Reform UK renews hope, puts country first
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In this episode of the Ezra LeVant Show, Ezra is joined by his good friend Rishi Sunak to discuss the current political crisis in the UK, and why he thinks the Tories are going to lose the election to the Labour Party.
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tonight Nigel Farage is back in the United Kingdom and politics there are
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getting pretty exciting it's June 27th and this is the Ezra LeVant show
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you know I'm interested in the UK our friend Tommy Robinson is from the UK that's actually
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what started getting me interested in the UK I had been there only I think twice in my entire life
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until we hired this firebrand in the UK and I would go over there to meet him and to to learn
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about what's going on and to hire lawyers because Tommy was always in trouble and uh I sort of fell
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in love with the country I could see the roots of our own country over there and I could see
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amazing things I mean the UK today it is Great Britain it really is great but it is the legacy
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of the greatest empire the world has ever seen I mean you could say that the Mongols were great
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and the Romans were great and both of those things are true but I think the British Empire was the
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greatest empire the largest richest most powerful empire that ever existed in history and although
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the empire has been dismembered um much of the greatness greatness remains and there's so many
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things about that country to admire I believe uh but their politics has been atrocious they have a
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nominally conservative government has been for 14 years called the Tories as well but there is nothing
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Justin Trudeau has done that they have not done as Tories they've brought in transgender extremism they
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are deeply committed to net zero environmental extremism they have open borders uh similar in
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scale to we do that we do and of course they have little dinghies and boats sailing over from France
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claiming asylum even though obviously France is a free and safe country there are so many appalling
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things in the UK and what irks me about it it was all done in the name of the conservative party name
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of the Tory party and so that party's name is mud but what are you going to do about it because the
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leading opposition party is the Labour Party that on each of the issues I just mentioned is worse
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and far worse and worse on it on in some things are spectacularly worse and they would be very troubling
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for example from the point of view of um in aligning the UK more with the Hamas Islamic extremism
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so what's a freedom-oriented nationalist populist voter to do what's someone to do if the Tories
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have had open borders for 14 years and the Labour will obviously continue who are you going to vote for
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what can you do I saw a poll I mentioned it to you before that uh and it was just one poll and it may
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have been a rogue poll but that only one percent of young people in the UK plan to vote Tory one percent
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even if that was off and it was five percent imagine how disheartening it is and that's for
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a lot of the same reason that here is in Canada young people cannot afford a home if you think
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prices are expensive in Toronto try London and the reason for that is the millions of mass migrants
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who have come um and I think there's another reason the Tories installed their new leader he has
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never been voted on by grassroots members of the party it was sort of like a palace coup and so Rishi
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Sunak a gazillionaire is the leader of the party but he has the feeling sometimes of being like a globalist
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banker who doesn't understand anything real just talks about GDP and I understand why GDP is important but
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I think it's important to an ordinary person to earn money not well if we just um you know reduce
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services and bring in more migrants we can get the GDP to grow by points like like he's a technical
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technocrat who has all the humanity of an artificial intelligence like I feel when I'm watching Rishi Sunak
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that I'm watching an AI creation of a person here's an old clip of him showing just how privileged and
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out of touch he is where he says I have friends who are aristocrats I have friends who are upper
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class I have friends who are lower class working class oh not them take a look at this and so
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aristocrats I have friends who are upper class I have friends who are you know working class but
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I'm not working class but I mix and match he's just so disconnected from people and some of the
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funniest ads in this campaign have been him in normal situations being so awkward like going to
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soccer or football as they call it here's a clip of that I mean these are political ads criticizing
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him but it's tapping into something about him which is he is so unlikable and unrelatable but what are
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you going to do about it here's here's how his opposition depicts him is he looking forward to
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all the football not so much my bag well yeah that's right I'm Rishi what's your name Dean how are you
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hungry hungry well this is where have we get you to get breakfast you know would you like sausages
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some toast yeah perfect couple of eggs yeah fantastic now you've been here before have you
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I have yeah it's it's a great place isn't it yes superb job right that's that that's a cut really
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let me get with the economy out well that is exactly what I'm trying to do exactly what I'm trying to
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do uh there's for business what what do you have a but you do you work in a business do you want some
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no I'm homeless and I'm actually a homeless person but I'm interested in this Rishi talks tough about
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immigration but more boats come every day uh Rishi has been an endorser of net zero the united
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kingdom has been a very bellicose point of view in the Ukraine Russia war and according to several
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diplomats who were there it was the UK that scotched a peace deal that could have been had over a year
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ago one of the traditions of the British conservative party is a strong military for years the British
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had a mighty military I mean for centuries they had the most powerful navy in the world they've
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practically been demilitarized although they talk very butch about the war with Ukraine and
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Russia they have demilitarized themselves it's a surveillance state now there's closed circuit
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tv everywhere and not just for fighting crime but for fighting against environmental crimes they have
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something there called ulez ultra low emission zones or 15 minute cities where they have these cameras
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that spy on cars driving where they're not supposed to drive by the way it's it's led to a underground
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phenomenon a phenomenon called blade runners people who are masked sort of sneak out with a metal saw a
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hacksaw and cut down these uh ulez surveillance cameras it's quite something and of course the
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conservatives were very strong into lockdownism although of course they cheated themselves
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so my point is the United Kingdom's Tory party was utterly uninspiring the opposite of Pierre
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Polievs conservative party in Canada labor is awful and they will be worse if they win here's an
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example of Keir Starmer the labor leader when he was asked which do you prefer Westminster which is
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what they call their houses of parliament or Davos as in the world economic forum like any politician
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should know what to say well he answered with his heart let's just ask you quickly you have to choose now
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between Davos or Westminster Davos why because Westminster is too constrained um and you know
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it's closed and we're not having meaning once you get out of Westminster whether it's Davos or
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anywhere else you actually engage with people um that you can see working with in the future
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of Westminster just as a tribal shouting place by the way there are forces pulling
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Keir Starmer's labor party even further to the left there are Islamic groups George Galloway has a
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pro-Hamas pro-Gaza political party that's stripping away voters from the left of the labor party there
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were candidates in recent council elections who campaigned with Palestinian flags and they won
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it's totally demoralizing and then in comes Nigel Farage out of nowhere the election had actually started
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and he said no I'm just going to be a journalist on GB News no he decided to jump in he Nigel Farage
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the former leader of the UKIP party the UK Independence Party he was the guy who led the campaign to get
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the UK out of the European Union to save the pound as opposed to the euro and get it out of the European
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Union he was the guy who for his politics was debanked a bank called Coutts Bank wrote to him and said
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we refuse to have your business and then they lied about it and he fought them and he struck a blow for
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ordinary people not being debanked he's made a personal project to go out into the English Channel
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on boats and film those bogus refugees in their boats streaming over to the UK every day
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he has been on these issues but more importantly he's a normal human being he's fun even he's he's
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goofy in a in a way that he owns whatever goofiness is let me take a look at this is one of my favorite
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little ads he has um you know the the rapper from Detroit Eminem here's here's the most unwrap
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on Detroit guy imaginable Nigel Farage having a little bit of fun at his own expense take a look
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how's he not likable and and I think there's this whole team of young voters who think he's so much
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fun as opposed to Rishi Sunak the robot there's a kids video game called Minecraft um and they had
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some deep fakes of Nigel Farage playing Minecraft and taking on the other party leaders it it may
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sound obscure but it's just so goofy and it shows how he's connecting with young people like I say
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only one percent of young people care about Rishi Sunak's conservatives here's that Minecraft bit
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hello chat so today I had the brilliant idea of joining Rishi's Minecraft server while he was offline
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just to have a bit of fun and mess with him so after exploring the world for a bit I've actually
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stumbled upon his house so naturally I filled it to the brim with TNT and for everyone's information
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there were absolutely no trace of Sky TV services in or around the house wait what does this say
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Nigel if this is you do not grieve my house well sorry Rishi I think you can agree it's too late
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for that my friend anyway let's get to it shall we right three two one okay let's get out of here
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and just for good measure I'm gonna blame it on care and what I like best about Nigel Farage is he's
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used to fighting back against the media his chief opponents for 30 years have been the media so when
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they criticize him for taking a hard line on immigration he doesn't get scared he claps back
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look at this brilliant way of handling it because of the numbers that came in under labor because of the
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growing sense of frustration in this country of the effect it has on the lives and the quality of
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life of ordinary people you guys promised us in the 2010 manifesto 2015 manifesto 2017 manifesto
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that net migration will be tens of thousands a year right in 2019 you won a massive majority
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from people who wanted lower numbers so far since you've been in power net migration has been 4.3
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million it dwarfs even what happened during the labor years and I do genuinely believe this is the
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single most important question in the election do you know we have to build one new dwelling every two
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minutes in this country just to cope with the sheer increase in numbers this is not we need to have my
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growth it is of course it is not because of migrants I'm sorry I'm sorry successive successive
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governments have failed to build houses and what we do how can you do let's blame the immigrants stop it stop it
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it's ludicrous okay you've had your say I'm gonna move on unless you know how many people are coming
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how do you know how do you have just a bill and logical given that your 2010 manifesto your 2015
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manifesto your 2017 manifesto said you've reduced net migration to tens of thousands your 2019 manifesto
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said immigration would massively reduce and that net 4.3 million people have come into the country since
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that time why on earth should anybody believe the fifth manifesto that promises cuts to net migration
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because of the record of this Prime Minister so we've had figures out today that show that visa
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applications have fallen by 30% and the OBR's own forecasts say that we will halve immigration by next
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summer that's the trajectory we are on and we will give we will give uh parliament a the chance to set
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an annual cap on family and work visas that is will be enshrined a legal um uh cap and that is what we are
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offering that's why you can have confidence that those numbers have come down they're they're projected
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to come down and the only alternative you have in this election is that okay or what the Labour Party
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have on offer Nigel is a Labour enabler no no target and no plan I don't believe a single word that you
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say you've deceived us with the last four manifestos I don't believe you in the fifth and that's being a
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Labour enabler we are now ahead of you in the national okay thank you a vote for you is actually now a vote
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for Labour he's very delicately talking about not just the numbers of immigration but the kinds of immigration
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including these pro-Gaza pro-Hamas candidates he uses the word sectarian but take a look I think he handles this
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masterfully it would seem that there are now people prepared to stand um who really want uh for their vote to be
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entirely on Muslim issues in fact a website launched this week just called Muslim vote you know why we
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have to get together as a Muslim community and of course top of their list isn't the national health
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service it isn't dentistry it isn't the boats crossing the channel or anything like that top of
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their list is Gaza and I think we're witnessing the beginning for the first time ever in this country
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you can see the website on your screen putting Muslim issues at the forefront a united force of
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four million of us acting in unison this folks is the beginning of sectarian politics we've never
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seen the like of it yes of course we've seen it in modern times in Northern Ireland thank goodness
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that has been quelled to a very large degree this is the beginning in my opinion of sectarian politics
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in this country I find it troubling I find it worrying and where's streeting he may find it
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troubling and worrying because looking at his Ilford North constituency at the time of the last census
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in 2021 nearly 25 percent of his constituency was Muslim that figure will now be several points higher
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over the course of the last couple of years and already somebody has come forward to say they will
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stand against streeting in that constituency on a Muslim ticket and I just wonder I just wonder
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is there time for these forces to gather ahead of the next general election and if not ahead of the
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next general election I'd be very surprised if that wasn't the case for the general election the other
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day we showed you some of his talk in a pub about net zero here's a little bit of that now of course you'd
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thought we're Brexit now we're in control it'll be less of a threat but it's not and that's because
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of the whole net zero agenda that's being pursued Boris went absolutely full pelt for it Labour is
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still on that track the Tories are now saying well we won't do it all tomorrow we'll wait till the day
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after and frankly the whole thing is about charging us more money the whole thing is about controlling
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our life and our behaviours and in terms of the environment it makes absolutely almost no
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difference whatsoever so look you know bikers want the freedom to ride their bikes and pursue their
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hobby they should be allowed to do that without interference I do worry that with a Labour government
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which we're going to get I mean think about you Les think about all the different things that have
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been done low traffic neighbourhoods etc I suspect for bikers it's going to be difficult under a Starmer
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government and so what you're going to need is a voice of opposition standing up and saying you
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know please leave these people alone opinion polls are very encouraging I say again Nigel Farage only
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jumped into this campaign after it started like election day is July 4th just like a week or so away
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but Nigel is already tied in the polls with the Conservative Party one of the oldest political parties in the free
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world now he's not going to get the same number of seats because they have the same
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first past the post system that we do here in Canada so Nigel Farage will likely win his own seat
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in a tourist community called Clacton-on-Sea he may win half a dozen other seats but it'll be a toehold
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that he'll be able to bash away and it's incredible to get him in Parliament not just because he's a great
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advocate but he's normalizing discussion of ideas that are rejected by their uni party over there he's
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normalizing rejecting net zero energy and he actually used the phrase net zero immigration
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the other day which I loved I think Nigel Farage is part of a global wave where the pendulum is swinging
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back whether it's Donald Trump's chances this fall Pierre Polyev in Canada what's happening in Ireland
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in Argentina with Javier Millet in El Salvador with Nayib Bukele in Germany in France in Hungary people are sick
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of the Justin Trudeau style Joe Biden style Rishi Sunak style globalist socialism I'm excited for Nigel Farage
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he will not be the Prime Minister of England on July 4th and he most likely will not be the opposition leader
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either but he will be the leader of a movement of opposition that will shock people with the number of votes
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it gets and it will finally allow Brits to have a discussion about what it means to be patriotic what it means
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to be in control of your borders and what it means to stare down an establishment be on the side of the people
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I'm very excited about it and I wanted to tell you my thoughts
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well you might remember a couple weeks ago I went to Geneva Switzerland very interesting city over a
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century of diplomacy in that place but diplomacy which I think once meant going to fight for your
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country's interests abroad now has taken over a new meaning diplomats themselves have their own
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agendas places like the United Nations have their own point of view that they impose on their member
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countries it's not like a member of the French palace sending a memo to the Ottoman Turk advocating for
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itself it's not a place of national interest there is now a globalist interest and that's what I was
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studying at the Geneva get-together of the World Health Organization where they were working on the
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global pandemic treaty they want to proceduralize normalize codify the kind of lockdowns that happened
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hodgepodge last time they want to make them into an international treaty that could theoretically become
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binding law upon its member states that is a perpetual machine these annual gatherings of the UN they'd be
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doing it for example for decades with their global warming treaties but I tell you it seems that I didn't
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have to fly so far to find a kind of pandemic treaty if I'm understanding the latest story from true north
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health by their journalist Cosman Georgia let me read for you the headline it's vaccine mandates
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border measures part of updated North American flu pandemic plan really joining me now to talk about
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this is the author Cosman Georgia it's my pleasure to have you I don't understand what is the North
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American flu pandemic plan is it a plan is it a treaty uh is it binding tell me more about it because
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this frankly is the first I've heard of it and I I need you to educate me right so it's a trilateral
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agreement between Canada Mexico and the United States and it's actually been in existence since 2007
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uh but it's been updated this year actually this month in June uh because in 2021 these countries got
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together and decided that they need to put into place what they learned from the COVID-19 pandemic
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into work and this agreement is quite sweeping it actually moves away from the original plan which
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was actually only about um avian flu so bird flu but this extends to all sorts of public health
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emergencies and even further like radiological nuclear events it's a sweeping agreement that dictates
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how these countries will respond to these incidents and it involves some of the highest ministries
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in all of these countries including Canada's public health agency global affairs Canada and public
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safety Canada the first sentence in your story is certainly eye-catching vaccine mandates border measures
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and travel restrictions are on the table as part of an updated human animal influenza pandemic agreement
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between Canada the United States and Mexico those that is a list of disasters those were the worst things
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about the COVID-19 lockdowns vaccine mandates abusive widely now debunked medically and the civil liberties
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aspect of it a disaster border measures I presume that would include things like the spyware app
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arrive can and then travel restrictions well we all know that the unjabbed were banned from flying even
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within their own country you just listed some of the worst parts of COVID-19 and you're saying
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to use your phrase those are on the table now in this three-party deal what does that mean on the table is it
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is it part of a treaty or is some country proposing it how would these things be codified
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right so it's an emergency response coordination group and they essentially it's very shadowy it's
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not transparent but they have a governance structure that is picked by these agencies from all of these
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governments and they staff it and when there's an emergency it triggers a sort of process and that
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can include discussing things like border border measures travel restrictions vaccine mandates but they can
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also force private groups companies parts of critical infrastructure and supply chains to also
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implement measures based on their diktats so it's quite crazy and you were right to point out at the
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beginning that we're entering into this international pandemic treaty with the WHO and I see this
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particular agreement to the North American continental one as an expansion of that we're really trending
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towards these centralized international bodies dictating what sovereign nations can and can't do when
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responding to emergencies whether real or not you know I did not know there were so many public health
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officers in Canada until the pandemic why would I know that why would that be of interest to me
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there there was Teresa Tam and some of the provincial and bigger cities had them I mean
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Eileen Davila in Toronto was the name of one for example Bonnie Henry in BC but every health region
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every small town like there are hundreds of these people in Canada and they're typically making more than a
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rock star doctor would that's the crazy thing I hate when people say Teresa Tam Canada's top doctor what
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did top doctor how best doctor best results medically best patient reviews most advanced no she's not a top
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doctor she's a government doctor she hasn't even had a patient in years and and all these hundreds of busy
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beavers who were a disaster during COVID what are they doing now they are still employed now like they
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haven't gone they're still there they're lurking but while you and I move on with our lives they're
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preparing for their next amazing time I think that if you were to ask a public health officer
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was the COVID-19 the best time of your life or the worst time of your life I think 95% of them would say
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that was my time to shine that was when I was on TV every day that's when I got to make decisions
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that I thought only politicians elected by the people could make that's when I got to you know
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make up things that sounded sciencey like I think there is a group of people who loved the lockdowns
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and would do anything to get back to that state of affairs and the rest of us are their victims
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we're trying to move on with our lives and they're looking forward to the next one that's what I get from
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reading your article no absolutely and these people got awards you know the order of Canada
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they got provincial orders here in British Columbia Bonnie Henry had a documentary made about her
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they're like superstars they see themselves as celebrities and I think it's important to point
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out that these agreements these international agreements work in such a way that they spread out
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responsibility among decision makers and actually make it cloudy and try to confuse people
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because they're not transparent and that way they're not held accountable so you can't point to a
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specific person because they can just pass on the buck to somebody else and then by the end of the day
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there's nobody willing or able to actually hold these people accountable and it's funny they mention
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they want to learn from what the COVID-19 pandemic was and how it you know turned out but they're not
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trying to learn their mistakes or how they clamped down on freedoms or how they should have went a
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little bit easier not putting prohibiting kids from attending school and affecting their mental health
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they're trying to learn how to do it better how they can do it more efficiently I just want to say the name
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of this initiative because it's got a big acronym the name of this is the North American Preparedness
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for Animal and Human Pandemics Initiative and the acronym is NAPAPI if I'm saying that right that I bet
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you not one in a thousand Canadians know what that is I bet you not one in a hundred elected officials
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know what that is it seems reading your article that it's almost sort of like a club of people
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in Canada the U.S. and Mexico have sort of decided this is how we're going to do it I haven't
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seen this debated in parliament I haven't heard of some bill being introduced to make this legal it
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just looks like these people are doing this because they can they're still on the payroll
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and they love power that's how it looks to me yeah and I just stumbled across this looking through
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Government of Canada documents that they publish on a weekly basis there was no real big press release
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there was no meeting convened to announce this with whoever's involved it was just put out there that
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in June they've updated this agreement that originally targeted avian flu to expand to all sorts of
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things and you're right there needs to be a debate about this we need to have our politicians question
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why we're in this agreement in the first place and who decided to expand it to include almost any sort of
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emergency and to give it the powers to potentially dictate our lives again like they did in the COVID-19 pandemic
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Well Cosman we're grateful to you for unearthing this and trying to explain it
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the article once more is called Vaccine Mandates Border Measures Part of Updated North American Flu Pandemic Plan
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the author is Cosman Georgia and the platform is our friends at True North
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keep up the great work we love to follow you and your colleagues
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Andrew Lawton is a champion of freedom in my books and I'm glad you're part of the team