EZRA LEVANT ｜ Canada’s forgotten civil rights history, with Lord Conrad Black
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Lord Conrad Black's Forgotten History, Civil Rights in Canada is a new book that documents the history of civil liberties in Canada from the early 19th century to the early 20th century. In this episode, we talk with historian and author Conrad Black about why Canadian civil liberties were not as common as they are today.
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Tonight, a feature interview with historian and author Conrad Black.
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It's November 24th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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You know, my whole life, when I use the word civil liberties or freedom, boy, that word
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triggers people, they always say, that's not a Canadian value.
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We are about peace, order, and good government.
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I know that Canada's history is one of freedom.
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We were born in freedom, and it's not a partisan thing either.
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And so, I think it's incredible that we finally have a book documenting the history of civil
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It's called Forgotten History, Civil Rights in Canada, and what a pleasure to spend the
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course of the next half hour with its author, Lord Conrad Black.
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Congratulations on the book, published by our cousins at the Democracy Fund.
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Well, in fact, rights are at the very core of the organization of Canadian government,
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going back to immediately following the Battle of the Plains of Abraham.
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I mean, we had rather severe French criminal law and gentler French civil law when it was
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But as soon as the Québécois, they became, got a good look at British governance.
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They wanted to get rid of French criminal law and get the benefit of a more generous and
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And of course, they were principally concerned about their religious and language rights.
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And I mean, at that time, it was unlawful in the British Empire for a Roman Catholic to
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But the British varied that, obviously, for Quebec.
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And an arrangement was made by one of the great statesmen in Canadian history, Sir Guy Carleton,
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Lord Dorchester, who was the governor and saw what was happening in the American government.
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And he left his post in Quebec and returned to London, didn't retire as governor.
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He spent four years in London lobbying for the passage of the Quebec Act, which was passed
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And basically, it said the French Canadians will swear allegiance to the British crown.
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And the British crown promises there will be no interference with the Catholic religion
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And that was the only way that we kept Canada from joining the American Revolution.
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And so to answer your question about the thesis, we have a fusion in this country of French
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and English concepts of law, which is unique in the world.
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But you get these differences where the English tradition is of the rights of the individual
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and the French tradition is the rights of the collectivity.
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See, to the French mind, French-Canadian mind, traditionally, it was nonsense to tolerate
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That's why Duplessis used to attack the communists, for example.
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You're allowing these people to exploit democracy to attack democracy.
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We see people marching against Canada, calling for jihad, using our freedoms perhaps to attack
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I mean, it is this phenomenon of democracy being exploited by anti-democratic forces.
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You know, until I read your book, I didn't think of it that way.
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I mean, you grow up, especially growing up in Western Canada, there's always that tension
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But if you look at it historically, 250 years ago, to grant minority rights to a minority
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language and a minority religion, that's got to be a novelty, like to have, to protect
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And you say it was partly to shore up Canada against an American Revolution.
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And to prevent Canada from falling into the American Revolution.
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Whatever the reason why, it did grant civil liberties in a time when civil liberties were
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not as, well, they were not as common as they are today.
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You know, we can take note of the inconsistencies in the American Revolutionary position.
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I mean, Jefferson writing, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
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And the Americans, even in their earliest moments, had this genius of showmanship and
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And it would have had a huge attraction in Canada if the French had not been concerned
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about other things, including if you look carefully in the Declaration of Independence, there's
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the allegation that the British were trying to, I mean, the British government was trying
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They weren't trying to do anything of the kind.
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But these things seem very obscure now, but they were terribly important then.
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Because if it hadn't happened, the United States would be the whole continent.
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I'm not saying it would be a horrible fate, but it would be a very different political situation.
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The book is called Forgotten History, Civil Rights in Canada.
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Hey, let me tell you my favorite story of Canadian civil liberties.
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In the 19th century, when Sir Joseph Howe was an up-and-comer in Nova Scotia, he would
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He was a publisher before he was a politician, and he wrote about corruption in Halifax, and
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And he was his own lawyer, which is normally bad advice.
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But he talked about freedom of the press and the importance.
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And then the judge in this case directed the jury to convict, but the jury would not.
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And to this day, Sir Joseph Howe, who was really one of the founding fathers of Canada in many
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ways, I believe he struck the greatest blow for freedom of speech and freedom of the press
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I doubt one in a hundred people in Canada know that.
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That their founding father fought for the right to skewer politicians with the tool of free
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There are stories like that, and we don't champion them.
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I think he's prominent in Nova Scotia, but I agree.
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Some of those fathers of confederation from the outlying places were extraordinarily able
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And the man from New Brunswick, Tilly, Samuel L. Tilly, he invented the word dominion as a
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And how he somewhat blotted his ledger because he petitioned the British government against
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the evils of confederation, but in an orderly way.
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And then this was entertained in Parliament, and it was contradicted by a similar petition
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from MacDonald and some of his colleagues, and the British quite rightly found in favor
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They heard the thing out, and then MacDonald, great statesman as he was, the denigration
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He recruited Howe, who was a political opponent, to come into his government.
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And by the way, and I'll stop talking about Sir Joseph Howe now, but I don't have as much
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history in me as you do, so I've got to make use of the stories I do know.
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His closing arguments to this day are recorded by the government of Nova Scotia on the government
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homepage to show people what that back-and-forth battle is like.
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You mentioned Sir John A. MacDonald, obviously the builder of the country, and an able man
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I should tell you, if you drive 20 minutes south of here, you'll come to Queen's Park,
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which is the name of the Ontario legislature, and you will see something that is strange.
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You will see a giant wooden box that looks like an upright coffin.
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And if you weren't here in this country more than 10 years, you would never know what's
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The answer is, it is a statue of Sir John A. MacDonald, the founding father, the first
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prime minister, and it has been boarded up out of shame, out of denunciation, out of cowardice,
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What do you think that says about our treatment of history and a man who, whatever his flaws,
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It's, of course, tangled up in the complicated and very vexed issue of historic treatment of
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the native people. And the charge against MacDonald is that he was hostile to them, a racist, and was
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responsible for an unreasonable and unjust treatment of them. And in my opinion, that's an
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unjust charge. And what it tells me, my principal reaction is, it shows the lack of courage of our
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public leaders. Because in every jurisdiction, they should have said, rubbish, MacDonald, like everyone
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else had his faults, but he was a great leader, a great prime minister, and without him, this country
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would not exist. And on balance, he was undoubtedly a very constructive force. And because he said,
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you want to take the Indian, you know, out of the Indian and make him a Canadian, what he really
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meant was that he wanted to give the native people the right to participate fully in Canadian life if
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they wanted to. He gave them the right to vote. How do these native radicals go around hanging him
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in effigy and calling him a genocidist, trying to exterminate them, when he gave them the right to
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vote? And he had native allies like Crowfoot, for example, who he was loyal to, and they were loyal
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to him. I mean, he wasn't hostile to natives. He was trying to help them. Now, maybe the policies
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weren't overly successful, but the motivation was good. And yet we have these lunatics accusing
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the founder of our country of being virtually a replicator of Hitler. It's a scandal.
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I personally know two native Indians who attended residential schools, one of whom is a senior
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lawyer, and his son is now a lawyer. And he told me that the idea that he would go to law school
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without having that building block of his Canadian Western education was unthinkable. So he said he
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owes his entire life's path, his prosperity, his effect on the world, his assistance to other
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indigenous people. He owes it all to the residential school. And I know another man who attended
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residential school who told me that their family reunions, they would all get together. Not a
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single one of them had a complaint. They loved it. Now, I'm not saying that's a universal story.
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At all schools, there are some abuses. By the way, any boarding school can have some molestation or
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other illegal mischief. That's not necessarily something to do with Indian residential schools.
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I guess what I'm saying is there are some indigenous people who make that argument, but I put it to you
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the most of them are actually woke, white, cultural Marxists who are looking to divide us, just like
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Black Lives Matter was an attempt to racially divide. That couldn't really be grafted onto the Canadian
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experience because we didn't have slavery in any major way. So they said, uh-huh, we'll use the
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oppressed-oppressor dichotomy in an indigenous context. I think it's just cultural Marxism trying
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to corrode our history, which was actually quite a pleasure. Couldn't agree more. And
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we should remember the following facts about the residential schools. I don't dispute that some bad
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things happened. Probably a lot of bad things. I don't doubt that. But all of them were there
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because there were applications to accept them. They weren't. This idea they were torn out of the
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hands of their parents is rubbish. They weren't. Two, it was their only exit from poverty and illiteracy,
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as your friend said. If it wasn't for that, whatever the failings of those schools, they taught
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them to write and read and do basic education, the three R's, which they would not have had.
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And then we have built upon this blood libel against ourselves, culminating in this absolute fraud
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of the murder and furtive burial in unmarked graves of native children. You realize that $27 million
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were voted to determine just what these graves, if they are in fact graves, what's in there.
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And not one native child has been discovered. And not one native child died unrecorded. Now,
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unfortunately, at that time, even with wealthy people, tuberculosis was a terrible problem.
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And the death rates were much higher than they are now. But this idea that our government and our
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churches, our Christian churches were engaged in murdering either deliberately or out of negligence,
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native children, and secretly burying them without any record is simply outrageous. There's not one
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part of it is true. You know, Rebel News, our journalist, Drea Humphrey.
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Well, and there are lots of politics afoot. Let me show you a quick clip from a documentary film
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that our reporter, Drea Humphrey, did. She's part Indigenous herself. She went to Kamloops.
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She bumped into the mayor by chance on the street. We tried to, we tried to get answers. I want to
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show you a short clip of what that looks like. Take a look.
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Kind of look at some of the archives and get some of the history and everything.
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Oh, okay, just put it down. Where's the best place to get, like, the history, like,
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to look through archives and things like that right now?
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I would have to come back and just find out exactly where, you know, all that stuff is.
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Because, like, I know that if you're talking about, like, records, like, whether it's
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Uh, and also just, in general, the missing one and so on.
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So, those are what they probably could look in places like, uh, the history of reconciliation.
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There's also, you know, contacting the local organizations.
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So, that would probably, that would be, uh, a way for an individual to ask about the records
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and the documents, but I know that a lot of that is also confidential and has to go as
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a proper process because it's very sensitive information to hold the integrity of the
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individuals and families that were directly impacted.
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And, of course, it also has to be done in a trauma-informed way.
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So, there's a lot of different protocols and steps that need to take place.
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So, I've done a few reports on it, and I think the main, uh, question most people
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ask is, what is the timeline for excavation to find out, you know, what happened in the
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Well, for myself, again, we didn't have a scheduled interview.
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And two, uh, we are still working on, and we have just been assigned an interlocutor that
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has been, you know, as a part of the press release with, uh, with Minister Obedee and
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You guys said that a couple days ago, so that's also on the website.
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I'm not saying there's going to be excavation, but we are, we're just going to be
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working through those steps to determine what's going to take place.
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And that's why the interlocutor, the special interlocutor has been identified and working
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The worst thing about that is it went from, there are anomalies that we detect underground
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to, I mean, Jagmeet Singh himself saying mass graves.
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Like it just, everyone was trying to outdo the other.
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It's because if you destroy your past, undermine your past, denounce your past, if you call
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yourself a genocidal country, Justin Trudeau has called Canada.
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He won't say that about China, which some would say meets the-
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Well, they've got more of a claim to it than we do.
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Well, I was going to say that province of Xinjiang, the Uyghur Muslims.
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When you call your own country a genocidal country, when you hide your own prime minister,
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when you destroy your own story, your own narrative, that is the largest kind of self-destruction
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And the decolonizers who say, well, Israel is the oppressor, so anything you do about,
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anything the oppressed do in return is justified.
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People saying anyone associated with the past, anyone associated with being white, with being
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If it's white and it's successful, it's bad, evil, and oppressive.
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If it's white and successful, it's successful, and it happens to be white.
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I think Canada really has been one of the most successful countries in the world.
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But that is part of our vulnerability, because it is receptive to foreigners, because we need
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immigration, and all people who've immigrated here came voluntarily.
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We don't have the legacy of slavery, where people were involuntarily transported from
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And because of that, and because we do welcome foreigners, and because it's a country that
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We never engaged in an aggressive war overseas.
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But the idea wasn't an invasion of someone else's territory.
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It was to build a nation, including the people that we found here.
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And because Canadians are sensitive to these issues and respect questions like rights in
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general, and always have, French and English, we're vulnerable to that charge.
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And because we're vulnerable to it, these charlatans hurl these outrageous charges at us and hang
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the founder of our country in effigy, and compare them to Hitler, who, I need not tell your viewers,
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plunged all Europe into war and murdered 12 million innocent people in death camps.
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If you look at the root of it, it's literally where you were born.
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The word natal or nativity is rooted in the same word, your nature.
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But if we denature our country, if we destroy the past, destroy our stories, denounce our
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heroes, well, then nature abhors a vacuum, and something else will fill that void.
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And you can believe anything, especially if you're taught to hate yourself and your past.
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I fear that the utopia that's being promised to displace our flawed past will be carnage.
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Look around the world at others who have tried it, whether it was Stalin or Mao,
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to raise the past down to zero, and to start again to build a perfect society.
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Maybe I'm sounding too dramatic, but frankly, the way the world has gone since the terrorist
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attack on October 7th, the vocal uprising in the West of so many anti-Western elements
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What do you think of what's been going on the last six weeks?
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But in response to the, well, look, I think it was orchestrated in advance by the, what
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They must have known that Israel would respond very forcefully militarily, and their plan
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was to mobilize the Muslim minorities in the Western countries to demonstrate in great
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numbers, focusing on what they judged to be on the basis of what they'd seen.
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The weakness and cowardice of our Western governments, that if there were big demonstrations, they'd
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I mean, you can only demonstrate so far, particularly when it's an attempt, ultimately, to justify
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barbarous behavior, the outrages, the atrocities of October 7th.
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The largest demonstration of all was the pro-Israel one in Washington a couple of weeks ago of
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And I understand another one of comparable sizes finally coming in London.
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And, you know, the Jewish community is nothing like as powerful in Britain as it is in America
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But I don't think it's working, but I think it's a tactic.
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Now, I have been shocked, as I'm sure you and most of your viewers have, by some of the
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anti-Semitic manifestations on our campuses and in our media.
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But on the other hand, for many years, I've found both our campuses and our media constant
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And they are full of people who are capable of believing anything.
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You know, Chesterton said, when people stop believing in our Judeo-Christian values, it
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But with all of that said, I think it is going to work out.
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Because I think Israel essentially has been given a blank check by American opinion to
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do the necessary to assure that an October 7 never happens to them again.
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And when they destroy the military arm of Hamas and then sign the agreement with Saudi Arabia,
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I think it will so shift the correlation of forces that we will finally have a chance
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You are perhaps more optimistic about America's role than me.
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I'm not optimistic about him, just the country.
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Okay, well, I'll take your answer in that light then.
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Because I know that Biden was part of the Obama administration that strengthened Iran,
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And look, I think he is now trying to reconcile the traditional Democratic Party of Roosevelt
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and Truman and Kennedy and Johnson, who are reasonable people.
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I mean, we might disagree with them in some ways, but they were patriotic Americans and friends of Israel.
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But, well, Roosevelt died before Israel was founded, but he was certainly a friend of the Jews.
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And on the other hand, Biden has, as you say, been not just a front row witness,
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but a key protagonist in the intrusion into the Democratic Party
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and the gnawing away within it of this woke minority, but this powerful, assertive minority.
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And he's now trying to reconcile traditional Democratic Party reasonableness
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with these anti-American, anti-Semitic extremists.
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And, you know, at a certain point, you can't reconcile that.
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You know, you can't reconcile oil and water very well.
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But fortunately, there'll be an election in a year.
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You know, I look at America, how different it is in four years.
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I guess it's been three years since Donald Trump, since the last election.
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Inflation, war, or the rumors of war in Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel in the Middle East.
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And I think a lot of people, even who are not Trump fans,
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would say that wouldn't have happened under Trump because he projected strength and risk to enemies.
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People didn't know if he would have a tantrum and fire missiles at you.
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The Americans hadn't had 8 million illegal so-called migrants.
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Of course, they're not immigrants in a traditional sense,
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like people going under the Statue of Liberty and registering their names
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and coming to join a new country and become citizens.
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It's more like the late Roman Empire, just masses of people moving into another country.
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It feels like the decline of an empire, the final days.
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The United States is not in that kind of a decline.
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I see now that the U.S. military is talking to Zelensky about getting him to negotiate,
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whereas two months ago, the word negotiator, ceasefire.
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Look, if they can't dislodge Russia from where they are,
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they've got to make a deal giving Russia pretty much what it has.
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But in exchange, Russia does admit that Ukraine, in its new borders,
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There's no more question about them not being a legitimate country.
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I mean, the Ukrainians may have to accept three quarters of a loaf,
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Well, it's been an absolutely, it's been a demographic disaster.
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I saw a news report the other day that the average age of the Ukrainian soldier
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is now in the mid-40s because so many younger men have been put through the meat grinder
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Well, they've taken, what, the Ukrainians have taken about 100,000 casualties.
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But in any event, it's just, it's a horrific loss.
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And they've had more than 12 million people displaced, so it's a terrible upset.
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But it's a heroic tradition to build a country on.
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But we've got to turn the corner and take all this money that NATO is putting into the war there.
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We've got to put into development aid, which without any corruption,
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has got to be properly used to build Ukraine back up.
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Two elections in the last week have been fascinating.
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I refer to, and both of them have magnificent hair, I should tell you.
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I'm talking about Javier Mille, if I'm saying that, right, in Argentina,
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who is even more audacious than Trump, if that's possible.
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He wields a chainsaw at campaign rallies days before the election.
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I want to show you that piñata clip because we haven't shown it before.
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The chainsaw, the piñata, the stickers, and let's end with the Israeli flag.
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Because for a leader in these days to wave the Israeli flag days before the election,
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Look, he is apparently a practicing Roman Catholic who says he has been contemplating
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Cuidado, chicos, correte, pará, pará, pará, pará.
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Ministry of Environmental Development and bytes, outside!
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Ministry of Women, Género and Diversity, outside!
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Ministry of Ciencias, Technology and Innovation, outside!
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Ministry of Trabajo, Employment and Social Security, outside!
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Oh, that hair, I'll never get tired of looking that hair.
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Speaking of hair, yesterday, or two days ago, in the Netherlands, Gert Wilders, the leader of the Party for Freedom, who has been very hardline against immigration, and in particular against Muslim immigration, dominating, getting 38 seats, more than doubling his seat count.
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Both of these characters, pro-Israel, pro-Western, pro-capitalist, anti-woke, anti-globalist, small government, and anti-immigration.
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And in the case of Kate Wilders, perhaps the most anti-Islamic candidate in the Western world, what do you make of these two dramatic wins in a week?
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And I think, in a way, none of these countries are interchangeable.
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I mean, the Netherlands and Argentina are extremely different countries.
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And the United States, of course, is immensely complicated, and it's a third of a billion people.
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But the fact that Trump was the only person in American history to be elected president who never sought or held any public office,
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elected or unelected, or a high military command, and just projected himself on the basis of his celebrity and his identification of the levels of discontent in parts of the country,
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I mean, Wilders has been focused on immigration as an issue, I think, throughout his public career.
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And he wants a kind of Brexit, a Netherlands Brexit, a Nexit.
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I tell you, one Brexit, the EU can maybe withstand that.
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But if Netherlands goes, Italy will probably want out.
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And in the case of Argentina, you know, at the end of World War II, Argentina and Canada had equal standards of living.
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And, you know, it's not that Canada's been so brilliantly governed, but it's still a very rich country.
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And Argentina, more than half the population lives in poverty.
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Yeah, well, I've never been, but maybe we'll have to check it out.
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Hey, let's end on Donald Trump, because I know you've written it.
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Here's a quick clip of our conversation about that book.
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Here's a President Like No Other, a little bit of a conversation that Conrad Black and I had about that.
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This was a 256 page, breezy, readable, fun book.
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I think you managed to be fair, but not to suck up to Trump and not to be a gotcha critic either.
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And the true Trump is, in fact, a very entertaining person.
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So a book about him should be rather entertaining.
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You know, a President Like No Other, that's sort of an ambiguous statement.
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You could say that if you were a Trump hater or a Trump lover.
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There's never been one like that, of that country anyway.
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What's interesting to me is a lot of his critics today, 10 years ago, would have been his superfans
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or at least people who wanted to bask in his celebrity and his wealth.
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Well, they'd see him as fine in his place as a sort of blowhard billionaire.
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But the idea that he wanted to take over the system and kick out the people that he said had misgoverned the country for the last 15 years,
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obviously that offends all those who identify with the people who've been established in office in both parties all that time.
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Well, look, the guy is, he's like Gulliver in Gulliver's Travels and all the Lilliputians,
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But I put it to you that right now he's ahead 10 points in the polls.
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And even if he were in jail, I think he would still be ahead in the polls.
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Because first of all, people understand the justice system has been weaponized.
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And they don't care if he's in jail because they look at the world and say the world is on fire.
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Donald Trump said he can end the Ukraine war in 24 hours.
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I'm just saying he was not part of the deep state.
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No, but as president, he had a consciousness of the power of America and what it could do.
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He feels lively and like he's got his wits about him.
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Sophocles in the 5th century BC wrote Oedipus when he was 90.
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And the famous Doge, Daldona, conquered Istanbul at the age of 96.
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I mean, Mr. Gladstone formed a government at the age of 81.
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Adenauer was a distinguished chancellor up to the age of 88.
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People look at the strong horse and the weak horse and they want to go with the strong horse.
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And America has had a weak horse for three years and what makes me crazy.
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Well, I mean, let me ask you, let me conclude with a terrible and terrifying question.
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I look at all the resources, all the laws being bent or broken to get him, the collusion of the media.
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I look at the lengths they've gone to beat him in 2020, to undermine him in the interregnum.
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And the other day, a Democratic congressman, actually who led the charge of impeachment in the House, used the word eliminate.
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Every time he talks, he's putting himself into a bigger criminal hole.
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His objective is purely political at this point.
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Politics don't work in a courtroom, as I think he's finding out in the New York attorney general's case, in New York, a civil case.
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And that's going to continue in his criminal trials.
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But his rhetoric is really getting dangerous, more and more dangerous.
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And we saw what happened on January 6th when he uses inflammatory rhetoric now.
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And his recent true social post is incredibly, incredibly scary for anyone that might be trying to work in government.
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And it is just unquestionable at this point that that man cannot see public office again.
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I'm about to say because I want to preface this because I'm about to say something controversial and dramatic.
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And I want you to understand that I'm not I'm not saying this will happen.
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But Javier Bolsonaro was stabbed and also killed days before his election.
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The people there is so much at stake here, not just trillions of dollars, but the fate of wars and democracy.
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There could be no greater stakes than whether or not Donald Trump wins in 2024.
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And the people who have weaponized the entire government system against him are surely not above, I hate to say it, assassination.
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And so and of course, there have been four assassinated presidents.
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So you can't dismiss it in any case, you know, and there were attempts like on Gerald Ford and Harry Truman and others.
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President Roosevelt as president elect, Franklin Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt, both of them.
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And so you can't you can't say it can't happen.
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But I have intense political and philosophical animosity towards Trump's unreasonable critics like Nadler, like Schiff, the people who tried to impeach him and the and all the dirty trick specialists in the Democratic Party.
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I mean, I don't I don't you know, I'm from Quebec. I don't really believe in pristine politics.
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I understand it's a rough game and you do what you can to get elected.
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But you you draw the line, you know, at a reasonable place.
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And I don't think that even Schiff or Nadler, for example, would would be interested.
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I think they'd be highly consolable if he was assassinated.
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But I don't think they'd have anything to do with the commission.
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I don't think they would either. But but all those ex CIA this, ex FBI this.
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You can't say it couldn't happen. But but I I I think if it happens, it's because a kook does it, not because.
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Because those who have corrupted the justice system would say, right, there's only one bridge we haven't crossed.
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This is what we've got. We've got to kill this guy.
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Why? Maybe I'm being naive. I sure hope you're right.
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I look at some of those old CIA bosses and who are still milling around.
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And I and even some of those senior FBI officials.
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Well, they both lied to Congress about about lying to Congress.
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Let me put it this way. If if they are not above coups in another country and if they actually believe some of them say that Donald Trump is as bad as Hitler, that can't possibly be true.
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But if they actually believed it, wouldn't they do anything to stop Hitler from becoming president again?
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If you actually in your bones felt he was like Hitler, why wouldn't you take him up by any means?
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It's like that thought experiment. If you could go back in time, would you assassinate Hitler if you had a time machine?
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Well, I think they would. I mean, I don't like to be a psychoanalyst to people I don't know personally, but or indeed, even though I do know, though, I'm not a psychoanalyst.
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But I think they would make a distinction between Hitler and someone elevated by the American political system.
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I think even James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence, for example, who has publicly stated that he thought Trump was a Russian intelligence asset.
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I mean, how great an intelligence chief of this guy. But even he, I think, would feel that assassinating an American political leader was a bad thing.
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He would say that. But Xi Jinping might not say that. And the Ayatollahs of Iran.
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Look, for a foreign power to get into it, then you're really asking for trouble.
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No, I think there are in America kooks who might try it.
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But I would be hopeful that this security apparatus around these political leaders would prevent it.
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I hope so. By the way, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has had a difficult time getting security.
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Well, that's just that's just the Democratic establishment trying to discourage him.
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I find him interesting. I don't agree with everything he says, but I like the fact he's contrarian.
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I'm not anti-Kennedy, but, you know, a guy who says my father and my uncle were murdered by the CIA.
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You know, we started talking about the book and I just want to mention one more time.
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We've been showing we have the civil right to speak our minds.
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The book is called Forgotten History, Civil Rights in Canada.
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It's published by our cousins over the Democracy Fund.
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You can get the book at ForgottenHistoryBook.com.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
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to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.