EZRA LEVANT | Catherine McKenna announces she’s quitting politics in a burst of self-pity and narcissism
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Catherine McKenna announces she s quitting politics in a burst of self-pity and narcissism. She s just too much of a camera hound to make this goodbye. But I ll give you the true measure of her career, including the most devastating condemnation of her character that she herself said.
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Hello, my friends. Today, I take you through Catherine McKenna's goodbye speech. I don't
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think it'll be her last goodbye speech. I think she loves talking about herself too much, loves
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photo ops about herself too much. I think it's the first of a long goodbye tour. There'll be
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goodbye conferences, goodbye parties, goodbye speeches in the House of Commons. She's just too
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much of a camera hound to make this goodbye. But I'll give you the true measure of her career,
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including the most devastating condemnation of her character that she herself said. So
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Tonight, Catherine McKenna announces she's quitting politics in a burst of self-pity and narcissism.
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It's June 28th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
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It's not even close. The most vain MP in Parliament is Justin Trudeau. I think he just loves looking
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at pictures of himself. There's a weird Peter Pan juvenile side to it. Boy, he loves dressing up
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in costumes. He never wants to grow up. My advice to all the single people out there is find someone
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who loves you as much as Trudeau loves himself. But a very close second would be Catherine McKenna.
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Her first big PR splash as a cabinet minister was when she led the most bloated delegation in history
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to the Paris Global Warming Summit that the UN was hosting just after the 2015 election.
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That's when she hired a Paris fashion photographer to tag along and capture all of her magical moments.
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Now, everyone these days has a great camera in their cell phone. And of course, there are staff who can
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take a picture of her and even official photographers along with the delegation. But none of them were
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good enough for Catherine McKenna. She literally forked out thousands and thousands of tax dollars
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to hire a Paris fashion photographer. She really does fancy herself, I don't know, a supermodel or
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something. Well, she does have the vocal fry down pat. I don't know how you can have a valley girl
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accent when you're from Hamilton, Ontario. But she she mastered that. Here's how she started. That's
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how she started her career as an MP. And I think she ended it in a similar flourish today. She had a
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photo op to announce she's quitting politics. And she exited with the same vanity flourish with which
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she entered. Here's one of her many photos of herself that she tweeted about herself when having
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a press conference to talk about herself. But look at it. She stepped out of her ministerial car to get
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on her bike just for the photo op. Oh, yes, she has a free car as a cabinet minister. And she puts on
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the mileage. Curiously, she blocked our access to information request about how much mileage she puts
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on that car. That's odd. It's also illegal. It's almost like she doesn't want people to know just
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how much she drives. I don't blame her. People might call her a hypocrite. So she's on her bike
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as if she wears high heels when biking. And she's wearing a mask outside, even though she's had her
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vaccine shot. What a weirdo. So she had a press conference to announce that she's not running again.
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And it was covered live by CBC and CTV for more than half an hour. I'm not even kidding. Is that the top
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news in Canada, in the world? I think it was 42 minutes of unfiltered, self-serving propaganda.
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Can you recall the last time that Trudeau himself had 42 minutes straight of pandering from the media
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like that? It's quite something. And she did take some questions, if you can call them that. You might think
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that a self-described feminist like McKenna, oh, I don't know, might have been asked questions about,
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I don't know, the fact that Harjeet Sajam remains in cabinet, despite news, you know, that he actually,
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you know, you know, this whole sexual misconduct thing in the military, even amongst his own staff,
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there are people accused. You might think that a self-described ally of Aboriginal people who started
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off her speech to acknowledging that she was on Indian land. You might think she would have had,
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you know, a couple of questions about the bizarre bigotry shown by Carolyn Bennett, Trudeau's
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Indigenous Affairs Minister, towards Jody Wilson-Raybould, the Justice Minister fired by Trudeau,
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when Bennett claimed that Raybould only cared about money and her pension. Seriously,
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the same Jody Wilson-Raybould who put everything on the line for ethics. Imagine claiming that she
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was the one motivated by power and money. No questions about that for McKenna. It was a
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reminder about the collusion between the media party and the Liberal Party. Really,
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there's no dividing line between them. The closest thing to a tough question
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came from one of those Trudeau bailout news media called The Logic that asked McKenna,
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and I'm not even kidding, see for yourself, why aren't you spending more money faster? You think
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I'm Minister David Revely from The Logic. I'm wondering if you could share your insights as
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infrastructure minister into why it seems so difficult to spend billions of dollars to build
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and fix stuff in this country. The government is not on track to meet its long-term commitments on
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that spending. Why is it so hard? That was literally the toughest question she was asked.
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Why aren't you spending more? By someone who's on the Trudeau payroll himself. No questions about the
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missing billions in infrastructure money that, you know, just gone missing. Just that little thing.
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No questions about the fact that McKenna has declared war against Canadian coal and Canadian
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oil and gas and Canadian pipelines, but literally flew to China with the crooked SNC-Lavalin types
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to promote the use of coal there. She really loves China, just like Trudeau. So there were no
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questions about the fact that as Canadian environment minister, she worked for a Chinese government
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agency, not a bilateral agency, not some joint Canada-China thing. She literally served on a
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Chinese government agency working for them. Does she regret that? Oh, don't ask such mean
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questions. Nothing on her chronic habit of embroidering the truth, like blaming normal weather events on
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global warming. Like saying the science blamed global warming for some floods. Oh, there's floods
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every spring. Her own department said she just made it up. That's a lie. Certainly no questions about
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her more weird indulgences, that it would have been the source of endless questions if it had been a
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conservative MP. I mean, here's just one. Why did you eat a dog and brag about it on TV?
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I found out one of the most popular dishes in Flores was dog. Guess what we had for lunch?
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That's weird. But what got me the most about Catherine McKenna was about how she manipulated
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feminism and used it to silence other women and to excuse herself from any accountability. She was
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silent as Trudeau fired Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, possibly the best health minister
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Canada ever had. Imagine if she had been in charge during the pandemic instead of Patty Hajdu,
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that graphic designer and Chinese Communist Party activist. To McKenna, being a woman served only one
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purpose, to provide cover for Trudeau's own misogyny, including his own sexual assaults,
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including against Rose Knight. But at the same time, this lesson that we are learning in,
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and I'll be blunt about it, often a man experiences an interaction as being benign or not inappropriate,
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and a woman, particularly in a professional context, can experience it differently,
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and we have to respect that. McKenna endorsed Trudeau and endorsed Sajjan and endorsed all the other
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disgraces in cabinet, giving them her women's seal of approval as they abused women. McKenna was a nasty
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bully herself, of course, calling her critics deniers, evoking that Holocaust vocabulary. But if anyone
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criticized her, she played the victim card immediately, saying that any criticism of her was sexist.
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People mock Trudeau for being a narcissist, photo-op-loving lightweight. I do that every day.
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McKenna is the same way, but when people criticized her for it, including Sheila Gunn-Reed's gentle
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nickname for her being Climate Barbie, after she hired that Paris fashion photographer,
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McKenna went full enraged emo and said it was the worst thing to happen to women in modern history
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in Canada, and shame on Sheila for being so sexist. Which is weird, because McKenna herself loves
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bullying women. Do you remember when Sheila Gunn-Reed asked a real question of someone from McKenna's
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delegation to that UN Global Warming Conference? Remember this?
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Hi, I'm Sheila. Nice to meet you. Hi, I'm Kevin. Hi, Kevin. Rachel, you got a card?
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Sorry, and for which organization? No, sorry, we're actually not available. We're on our way
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to another meeting. Well, he just agreed to speak to us.
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But he just agreed to speak to us. Why are you not speaking to us? Is it just us in particular?
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Is it just us in particular that you don't want to speak to?
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It's us though? Like, why don't you want to speak to us? Do I seem unpleasant or...
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I don't understand why you won't speak to us. You were just sitting there speaking to a bunch of people.
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Are you worried I might ask a difficult question?
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This isn't going to look good, you running away from me. You know that, right?
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Yeah, after that, and that's good journalism by Sheila, McKenna specifically told the United
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Nations to ban Sheila from ever attending a UN conference again. So yeah, I think Sheila has
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earned the right to call McKenna climate, Barbie. But to David Akin, today that was the most important
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part of McKenna's self-serving speech. It's the most important thing David Akin wanted to ask McKenna about.
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David Akin, Global News. Thank you, Minister, for taking our questions.
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And congratulations and good luck on whatever's in the future. I wanted to ask this question of you.
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You are among a group of female politicians in this parliament that has had to endure some
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ridiculous abuse, not just on social media, but often from parliamentarians sitting right across
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from you. I wonder if that played at all a factor. You've been very, I thought, pretty strong in
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dealing with a lot of that. But did that play a factor? And the next step then, as you speak to
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particularly younger women who are thinking about getting into politics, what can be done? What can
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you say to them who just look at your experience and say, I just can't do that?
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Yeah, male feminists. White knighting for a powerful woman. David, maybe she'll offer you a job.
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I miss David, my old colleague, coming to Sheila's aid when she was banned by McKenna for going to the
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UN, or for that matter when Sheila was attacked by an NDP activist, male feminists, eh? Akin, Trudeau,
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they're all the same. Catherine McKenna was a failure by her own yardsticks. The world emits
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more carbon dioxide than ever, if you care about that sort of thing.
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McKenna's beloved China emits more than the G7 countries combined. And even Canada is growing
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its emissions, other than the brief dip during the last recession. Didn't McKenna say she'd fix all
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that? Maybe she never meant it, but either way, it's a failure. As an individual politician, she failed
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too. Even Trudeau grew tired of her and demoted her in cabinet. In her self-congratulations today,
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McKenna said that she wanted to make way for someone more diverse than her.
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And that's the message. That for all the negativity, there are millions of other
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people on the other side who have supported me personally, but support politics and support
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politicians. And that's really my message. But honestly, to the girls, the women, the broader
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diversity, we need more diversity in politics. It's the only way it is going to change.
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I say do it. If you feel it in your heart, if you've got something to contribute,
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if there's something you want to achieve, then get into politics. We need new voices,
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and we always need to push. I'm leaving because I have other things to do.
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And I think I've done what I came to do. But this should not be a message about not going into politics.
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This should be a message. We need more of you in, and I'm creating space for folks to do it.
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Yeah, that's just another lie. She's making way for an old, white, rich man, a banker, a globalist,
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named Mark Carney, former central banker, who wants to come back to Canada from the UK,
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enter parliament, and eventually succeed Trudeau. So much for young, diverse voices.
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How will Catherine McKenna be remembered, if at all? I don't know if she'll be remembered,
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but I think if she is, it'll be as a cry bully who loved to attack others, especially other women.
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But the moment her outrageous conduct itself was criticized, even gently, McKenna played the victim
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card and taught other women and girls that when the going gets tough, the answer is to complain and
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say it's just because you're a girl. I think McKenna will be remembered as a bitter partisan with deep
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ethical problems, who collaborated in firing authentic women who probably themselves could be
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called feminist heroes, certainly much more than McKenna. But mainly, McKenna will be remembered
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as the cabinet minister who went into a Newfoundland bar, met some CBCers, got drunk, and then said the
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quiet part out loud. The secret to success, she said, was just to tell a lie over and over again.
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You know, I actually gave them some real advice. I said that if you actually say it louder,
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we've learned in the House of Commons, if you repeat it, if you say it louder, if that is your
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talking point, people will totally believe it. So just go. Yeah, that's what we'll remember of
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Catherine McKenna in her own words. Stay with me for more.
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Well, we have over 1,834 cases at our fightthefines.com civil liberties project. Most of them are what I
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call severely normal Canadians, just from every walk of life and every background, just people who were
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hit hard by outrageous and likely illegal lockdown tickets. However, amongst those 1,834 cases, there are
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some special ones that stand out, including a few churches, a few businesses, and a few cases that
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the politicians really want to turn into examples. And Calgary, and Alberta more broadly, seems to be
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ground zero for the maximalist approach to lockdown prosecutions. And today, three of those most prominent
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cases issued rulings. The court issued a ruling. Chris Scott, the proprietor of the Whistle Stop
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Diner in Mirror, Alberta. Arthur Pavlovsky and his brother David, pastors at the street church, and
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Tim Stevens, another Calgary pastor, all of them have their rulings today, and all of them
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were convicted. Joining us now via Skype is our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed, who was watching
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three of those matters unfold this morning, and was live tweeting the proceedings. Sheila,
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great to see you again. Hi, Ezra. Thanks for having me on the show. I just want to clarify
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one quick thing, because there are a lot of moving parts today. Tim Stevens, he didn't get a decision
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today, but his next court appearance is kicked down the road until mid-July. So that's when we'll
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hear next from him. So while the politicians are celebrating, as they say, the greatest outdoor
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show on earth, the Calgary Stampede, while they're trying on their new outfits to celebrate the
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reopening of this province, Tim Stevens is being told that he'll sit in jail for at least another
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two more weeks before he even goes before a judge one more time. So, okay, thank you for the
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correction. So Chris Scott, the businessman, and the two Pavlovsky brothers, they were convicted
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or found in contempt of court today. They will be sentenced later. Tim Stevens, you've corrected me,
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thank you for that, did not have a ruling today, but he will rot in jail until his trial is heard
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at a later date. So he remains in prison. Do you know how long he's been in prison for? It's got to
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be a week now, right? Yeah, I think we're approaching maybe even two weeks that he's been sitting in jail.
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And today, the other hearings were two separate
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contempt hearings for the Pavlovsky brothers, because they were held in contempt of an April 23rd
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court order that was obtained in secret, and then a May 6th court order that didn't
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name either one of them in it, but was also obtained in secret, and then the Chris Scott
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hearing as well at the very same time. Yeah, and you said a few things there that may sound
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odd to people. Obtained in secret, I mean, we have been crowdfunding the lawyer for Arthur Pavlovsky.
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He was actually our very first client in Fight the Fines. We've been representing him or funding
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Sarah Miller to represent him since April of 2020. So that's now 14 months. And for the Alberta
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government, they know this. They fought with Sarah Miller. She's cleaned their clock time and again.
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So they sneaked into court without notice to Arthur, without notice to Sarah Miller.
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They didn't tell the judge that they knew Arthur was lawyered up, and they made a secret application
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and got an order, and they didn't invite the other side to be part of a battle. That's how courts are.
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Adi ultram partum is the legal maxim that means hear the other party. And that didn't happen.
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So it was a secret application for a contempt order. And on one of them,
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it didn't even name the people. It was just John Doe's and Jane Doe's.
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They are doing very rotten law in Alberta, and they're doing it with pride. The number of
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prosecutors and bureaucrats the government of Alberta is throwing these pastors is shocking.
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It's like the Nuremberg trials. But if the bad guys had won, the amount of prosecutorial
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and police power they're putting on these pastors is crazy.
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Well, and just the complete idea that there's no such thing as procedure anymore.
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So not only with that April 23rd order that was obtained in secret against Pastor Art,
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that was served to him the morning of April 24th, when they tried to enter his church,
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because that order gives Alberta Health Services and the police free reign to enter Pastor Art's
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church, whether services are going on or not, which is actually in breach of the Canadian Criminal Code,
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Section 176, that you cannot interrupt a church service. But they handed it to him
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and gave him two and a half minutes to be served with it, to read it, to understand and then come into compliance.
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Art's first language is not English. He speaks Polish first. And in that moment when they're serving him,
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because Art is really good at recording every interaction he has with officials, he can be heard
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saying, call my lawyer, call my lawyer. And they never did. They never gave Art an opportunity to
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understand the order and come into compliance. They gave him two and a half minutes. And that was
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one of Sarah Miller's arguments was that this is just not enough time for anybody, let alone someone
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who's got English as a second language to understand what you're giving them.
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Yeah. And that's the thing. The fact that Pastor Tim Stevens is in jail right now, the fact that Arthur
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Pawlowski was in jail for days and before him and Chris Scott was in jail, and of course in Edmonton,
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Pastor James Coates was in jail for 35 days. These are not crimes. They're not charged with any crimes.
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No. And these health orders that they're charged with, they don't carry with them a custodial sentence.
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So what's happening here is Alberta Health is trying to find some way to jail them that's not
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contemplated in the law. And so they got these sweeping contempt orders against anyone and then
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tried to tag people they don't like and literally give them like two minutes or you didn't comply
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within two minutes reading a legal document as I storm your church with a bunch of armed cops off to
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jail for you. I don't know. I find it deeply troubling that no one, especially the official
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civil liberties groups on the left seems to care. And frankly, I'm embarrassed for the judge that
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upheld all of this. I mean, we're going to, I mean, I spoke to the lawyer already this morning,
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Sarah Miller. I said, if there's grounds for appeal and if the clients want it, we will continue to
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crowdfund to appeal this all the way. But I do not have a lot of hope because the government loves this
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lockdown. The opposition loves it. The judges love it. The police love it. The civil liberties
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associations with the only exception of the JCCF and us are silent. Maybe, maybe Canadians
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really don't care about freedom. Maybe Wilfrid Laurier was wrong that freedom isn't our nationality and
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Diefenbaker was wrong. Maybe, maybe country, countries like Canada aren't really meant to be free,
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Sheila. I say that facetiously because I think all people are meant to be free, but it's pretty
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disgraceful what's happening. Well, yeah, I mean, and Chris Scott, he was arrested and held for
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three days. His crime was refusing to go broke. He held a 1500 strong, a 1500 person strong protest
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at his restaurant that the government that very week had seized from him. They chained the doors to
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the restaurant. They chained the doors to the convenience store. They chained the doors to the
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gas station and they locked up his campsite for some reason, collectively punishing the entire town
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of Mirror, Alberta, whose closest gas station then was 20 kilometers away. So naturally the town came out
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in full force to support him the night of the protest. And Chris Scott was taken away for protesting
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the government restraints on his own business. He was restrained from protesting government
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restraints. He was held for three days. And in Chris Scott's case, again, just like Pastor Art,
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the government knows who Chad Williamson is. They know that Chris Scott has a lawyer. He's been fighting
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other court orders on behalf of, of Chris Scott before, but they snuck in to a Calgary court in front of
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Justice Rook and failed to inform the court that Chris Scott was represented by a lawyer and failed
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to inform Chad Williamson of the proceedings against his client. And because of that on Wednesday,
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so two days from now, I think that's the biggest fight here is that Chad and Chris are in front of
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the court of appeals because they are trying to overturn the original court order based on the fact that it
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was, uh, procedurally illegal really that it violates the fundamental principles of justice that if you
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have a lawyer, uh, you should be able to have your lawyer in court representing you and that you should
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know if the court is going to do things to you that ultimately could end up with you behind bars.
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So on, on Wednesday, so two days from now, I think that's the big, the big, big court fight,
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at least for Chris Scott is that they are in court arguing that, Hey, we didn't do anything illegal.
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It was you, the government who did something illegal. Well, I'm not going to hold out hope that's, uh,
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that the court of appeal will see it any differently than the lower courts. I mean, uh, there was an insane
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ruling by the federal court of Canada. We challenged their hotel COVID quarantine jails, and that was upheld
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by the federal court. And part of me thought, I get it. I've already listed how the entire
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establishment is in favor of these lockdowns, uh, forever. Why should one federal court judge stand
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up and take the heat for saying the emperor has no clothes? Why? So that everyone else in Ottawa can,
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can marginalize them and call him a kook and not invite them to Christmas parties anymore.
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So I think that when you're dealing with courts, especially senior courts and courts of appeal,
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you're dealing with the fanciest, highest stratum of society. And the higher you go on that mountaintop,
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the less likely you are to be a dissenter, a dissident, or someone of principle to say,
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Whoa, there's a lot of groupthink going on up here. And I'm going to, you know,
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put a spanner in the works. You're just not likely to see that. Now I hope I'm wrong.
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I hope I'm wrong. Here's what gets me. I saw the other day that Senator Josh Hawley
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of the great state of Missouri wrote a letter asking the U S um, independent, sorry, international
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religious freedom commission to put Canada on the watch list because of all these pastors being
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arrested. And the letter was copied to Canada's ambassador to the States. I thought it was a
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great letter. I should tell you that I know of at least 20 other congressmen who are alive to this
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matter and state legislators too. My God, I can only imagine what would happen if they jailed these
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pastors again. Here's my question. You got, let's say two dozen American politicians worried about
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religious freedom in Canada, including a fairly powerful Senator. I haven't seen a single Canadian
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senator of either of any party. I haven't seen a single Alberta government or opposition politician
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out of 338 MPs. The only one who said anything is Derek Sloan. And he was ejected from the conservatives
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months ago. So I've just gone through hundreds of Canadian politicians. Not a single Canadian
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politician is alarmed about jailing pastors. Not one has said a word. I wish they could all lose.
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I wish every Canadian politician of every political party could all lose because they are all
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absolutely terrible. None of them are upholding religious freedoms and it's a disgrace. Well, I've seen
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a few of them speak out about another issue of religious persecution. So we've had five churches
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burned in the West here and three more vandalized, including a Polish Catholic church in Edmonton.
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And I've seen some conservative politicians say, oh, you know, this is, you know, we have to speak out
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about these churches burning and the vandalism and the intolerance and the people who are actively
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cheering for it. And I appreciate that. However, you're pretty quiet about when pastors are locked
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up. You can be outraged about a building. And trust me, those buildings are meaningful. They house the
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history of the congregation in the parish. But you didn't say anything when the government locked up the
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pastors of other churches. It can't be one and not the other. It has to be both.
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Yeah. Well, I find this whole thing very frustrating. I know we got into some technical legal stuff today.
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But I think, let me sum it up this way. If these things were happening in Egypt, China, the Nineveh
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Plain of Iraq, Pakistan, parts of Nigeria, where Christians are being persecuted, if these things
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were happening there, there would be outrage. In fact, maybe Jason Kenney himself would be outraged.
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He used to do that. But they're happening in Canada. Other countries are starting to notice, but
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it's like we are sleepwalking. Sheila, I know that I'm committed to continuing to fight the fight.
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I think most of these pastors and Chris Scott, the businessmen, are too. We got a great team
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of lawyers. You mentioned Chad Williamson. I mentioned Sarah Miller. We now have over a dozen
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lawyers across the country. For folks who want to chip in, you can go to fightthefinance.com.
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You'll actually get a charitable tax receipt for that. I'm sad and I'm tired of this fight,
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but we can't stop. We have to keep fighting. It's just sad that all those things I was taught
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that Canada stood for, freedom, the rule of law. I'm just sort of sad to see that we failed the test
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that we really meant it. You know, there are business owners who are willing to go to jail
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for the right of small business owners to keep their doors open. And there are pastors who are
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willing to go to jail in front of their crying children for the right for religious freedom for me.
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For me, the least we can do is stand behind them. And I just want to take this minute to thank
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everybody who has donated either at savearcher.com or fightthefines.com.
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It's for those of you at home, it might be a financial donation that you're giving, but let me tell you
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what your moral support. I mean, your monetary contribution to our fight for freedom.
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Of course, that's valuable. It keeps the lawyers fighting, but it really means a lot for these
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people in their darkest moment to know that there are so many people cheering for them to keep going.
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Well, that's a better note to end on. I'm just sad about this setback because I just feel like
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this idealized version of Canada that I had in my head, the idealized version I had of the law.
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I mean, I'm a former lawyer myself. I went to law school and I thought, wow, this law,
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it's to be, you know, it's our greatest inheritance. It's our greatest asset.
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You know, China's taking it away from Hong Kong. And well, that's not like us. We would fight.
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We have not fought like Hong Kong fought for their freedoms. And you're right that these pastors,
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including Tim Stevens, who's in jail right now. We'll keep fighting, Sheila. I just want to
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express my own personal sense of loss, the loss of the naive belief that the establishment in this
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country actually believed in freedom. That I've lost. That's a personal thing. That's just
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my own illusion coming into contact with reality. We're still going to fight like hell. You know that,
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Sheila. We'll fight like hell. And I know these pastors will and our lawyers will. It's just sad
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to realize it. That's all. Well, you and I were talking the other day, we can't change the world,
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but we can change somebody's world. And I think that's really what makes a difference for people.
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All right. We'll end on that note. Sheila, thanks for your great work.
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And we'll keep up the fight. Appreciate your time. Thanks, boss.
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All right. That's Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter who was covering various cases.
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Don't mind me. We're going to get up and fight. We always do. Stay with us more ahead.
00:34:02.060
Hey, welcome back on my show on Friday on Aaron O'Toole's poll numbers. Maurice writes,
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I don't know, Ezra. Every time I watch your show, I get more depressed. How about looking into a few
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points on a conservative win, please? Well, if I want to feel good about the conservative party,
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which I do, I turn to Pierre Polyev. He's always got some little video making a point,
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making an argument. And it raises my spirits because he's a happy warrior. He's a true conservative.
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I think he's an excellent communicator. And he's young enough to wait out Aaron O'Toole. And
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that's how I keep my hope alive. I don't think the polls are going to provide you
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any hope. No, it's possible that the conservatives will turn it around in the campaign. I mean,
00:34:46.060
I guess it's possible when you've got, what, is it going to be a hundred third party super PACs
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against the conservatives? And of course, the greatest super PAC of all the media.
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I mean, remember the CBC literally sued the conservative party in the middle of the race
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last time. So yeah, do you think that the conservatives are going to rise in the polls
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or fall in the polls in the campaign? But if you want to have hopes, just close your eyes and think
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of Pierre Polyev. I'm serious though. He's the only hope. Travis writes, I have voted conservative in
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every provincial and federal election as well as others in my family. We have always been conservative
00:35:22.860
supporters. I will not be voting conservative in the next federal election. Well, I want to correct an
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error I made the other day. When I was talking to Lauren, I had seen the poll results nationwide and
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they omitted the People's Party of Canada. And I got a note from someone who said, actually,
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in the provincial breakdowns in Alberta, the People's Party was at 7%. Now, I didn't verify
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that myself. I'm just telling you, I got an email from someone who saw the show. So I should have
00:35:50.380
probably checked it before saying it to you on TV. But so there's a twinkle of dissent there,
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but still 7% in the polls. You know, you can come in second or third in every single riding
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in Canada and not win a single seat. We don't have proportional representation. You need to have
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30% plus in any given district if you're going to win. And I think that's going to be the shame of
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it is there's going to be some dissident parties and dissident candidates who get votes, but they
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don't poke through. I don't know. There I am being depressing again. That's our show for today.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,