EZRA LEVANT | Do you conform? Is there any limit to what you’ll go along with?
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Do you conform? Is there any limit to what you'll go along with? The government wants everyone to get vaccinated, but what will it do to the people who don't need it? Will they be forced to sleep in the streets if they don't get it? Or will they be frozen to death in the winter?
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, the vaccine passport kicks in in Ontario.
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I've got a video for you of a woman being kicked out of a restaurant.
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I'm not sure if she's homeless. She looks quite poor and maybe not
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completely in control of her mental faculties, but she's someone who managed
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to survive on the margins of society. You know, you go into a McDonald's,
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you often see someone old and maybe not quite 100% there in the head, but
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they're by themselves, minding their own business, having a
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hot cup of coffee in the cold. That's over now. Throw the unclean wretch
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onto the streets. I'll show you a video of that, and I'll tell you my own
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thoughts on conformity and obedience. That's today's show. I hope you take the
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time to listen to it and watch it. You can watch it, especially I show you a
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couple of experiments from the 50s and 60s, experiments in conformity,
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experiments in obedience. I want you to see it with your eyes, and for that you
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month, I promise you. You'll find things you don't find anywhere else. All right,
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Do you conform? Is there any limit to what you'll go along with? It's September 22nd,
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my
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It's the first day of fall, and it's getting cooler out soon. It's going to be really cold,
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cold, and that's uncomfortable for everyone, but it's really bad for society's homeless.
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Do the vaccine passports apply to them? What I mean is, will they be allowed to sleep in
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homeless shelters if they're unvaccinated? How about just getting in out of the cold for a
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moment, going to a diner or coffee shop or McDonald's just to warm up with a hot cup of
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coffee or a bowl of soup? Is that going to be allowed anymore? Or in the name of public health,
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are the homeless going to be forced to freeze to death for their health? That's one example of an
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unintended consequence. We have no idea what all the unintended consequences will be about this
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atrocious mass experiment conducted unethically. That's what a vaccine passport is, an experiment in
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public health. It's never been done before, just like the lockdowns were an experiment too, never done
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before. A disastrous experiment that surely killed more than they saved and caused
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so many more deaths, ranging from deferred and delayed and canceled cancer exams and treatments
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to mental health crises and drug overdoses. And now the greatest experiment of them all,
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forcing the entire community to get a medical injection, whether they want it or not, whether
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they need it or not, whether they're naturally immune or not, forced them on pain of being fired,
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being expelled from university, being expelled from all social life, being expelled not just from
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public life, but even from private property like restaurants and gyms, even if the restauranteur
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or gym owner approves of people coming in. These are not sick people. They're simply people who do not
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want the vaccine for whatever reason. And the vaccine passport does not keep out sick people.
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We know that vaccines won't stop you from getting the virus or getting sick or passing it on. Comedian Chris Rock
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got COVID-19 and got sick from it. He said people should get vaccinated because he really didn't like
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being sick. They should get vaccinated like him. You know, to be safe like him. How far will you go
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along with this? You've already gone quite far, haven't you? You've become conditioned to accept
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quite a bit, haven't you? You've become obedient. You no longer question. You obey. And maybe you've
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even become a little bit of an enforcer. This is a popular meme. The one man at a Hitler rally not
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giving the Sieg Heil. That one dissenter. Imagine the crushing peer pressure, the pressure on him enough
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to turn a lump of coal into a diamond. And that man wouldn't bend. One in a million he was.
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There are a few others. One in a million. Oskar Schindler, who saved hundreds of Jews
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at risk to his own life. There are brave ones. In occupied France, there were the French resistance
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who fought the Nazi occupation. They were brutally hunted down and targeted for revenge, often mass
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revenge, group punishment by the Nazis. After the war, everyone claimed they were with the resistance.
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But that wasn't true, was it? Many Frenchmen were collaborators.
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A Frenchman, a great military hero in the First World War, was happy to serve as Hitler's frontman
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in Vichy, a fake France that collaborated with Hitler. His name was Field Marshal Pétain.
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Oh, there were countless French who thrived in Vichy. They made money. They had power. They were happy to
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turn in Jews and other enemies of the state. After the war, Pétain was convicted of treason.
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Sentenced to death, but they didn't, in the end, execute him because of his service in the First World War.
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Same thing happened in Norway with Vidkun Quisling. That's a picture of him on the left sitting with
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Hitler's Nazis. He ran the collaborationist regime there, and he was convicted of treason after the war,
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and they actually did execute him. But during the war, he was the ultimate patriot, wasn't he? Just ask him.
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The word Quisling, to this day, means a sellout.
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You know, it's hard to swim against the current. It's hard to be a dissident. It's hard to disagree.
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But my point is, we all like to think we're courageous and principled, and that we would
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have been that man who didn't salute Hitler. But it's one thing to think of that when you're
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surfing the internet, and you think about it for a few minutes, and then you move on. But
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that man's name was August Landmesser, the guy who wouldn't salute. And let me tell you a little
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bit about him. He was a German, ethnic German, who fell in love with a Jew. They got engaged,
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but they couldn't get married because the Nuremberg Laws were passed, forbidding Jews
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to marry non-Jews. Call it a vaccine passport of the day. Landmesser was a dissenter.
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He refused to salute. He didn't like the discrimination. That's the picture, right?
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But that's not how it ended. Here's how it ended. His Jewish fiancee was sent to a concentration camp
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where she was killed. And Landmesser himself was arrested and imprisoned and was sent into a
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prisoner's military battalion. Prisoners were forced to fight for Hitler, and he was killed
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in action. So yeah, you'd like to think you'd be a Landmesser, but you wouldn't. I mean, not
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one in a million would. Because we're social creatures. We want to be loved. We want to be
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liked. And more than that, we don't want to be scorned or hated. We don't want the scarlet
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letter on us or the yellow star. We're much more civilized now, you know? We don't wear
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yellow stars or we have Vax passports or whatever. It's going to be on your smartphone. So it's
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so much better than what they did before. I mean, we're so modern. I'm not saying that
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you or anyone kind enough to subscribe to this channel would be a true collaborator with
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evil, an actual Quisling or Marshall Patan. But would you be quiet and passive when faced
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with evil? Dante said, a special place was reserved in hell for those who in a time of
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great moral crisis did nothing. Is that you? It's so easy to be that person. You literally
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have to do nothing. Just do nothing. Just go watch another Netflix show. Have a nap.
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Do you remember this video from when we played it for you before? It's the worst video we have
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ever broadcast. This is a short version of it. I'm not even going to play the long version
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of it. And I'm warning you, this video upsets me so much. It upsets me for an hour after
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I'm done watching it. Here's a short version of it. I'm actually not going to watch this
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now as I play it for you. I'll just put it there for you. I can't stand this video.
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Here's a tweet I wrote about it a year ago. I said, do not think that our generation is
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superior to any other. Do you think that if it was us in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, that
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we would have resisted? That our police would have refused orders? That our media would have
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resisted? That you would have? Here, watch the video while I look away.
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Take a distance please. I'm distanced. Not from me. See you later. Excuse me, don't
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touch me. You're quite in my way. Excuse me, don't touch me. Excuse me. I've got all of
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that on video. Please don't touch me. You're not free to go. I'm recording this. She's
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Excuse me. She has her son with her and she's done nothing wrong.
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What a joke. You're embarrassing. You're embarrassing. You are scaring a child. You're embarrassing.
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You are trying to make a point. She has done nothing illegal.
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You are disgusting. You are disgusting. You are disgusting human beings. She has her child
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with her. This is a bully. Are you a mama? Are you a mama? Let her...
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It gets worse. We have a longer video that shows more and it's much, much worse. Imagine
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doing that. That's Nazi level stuff. But imagine doing nothing about that. Here's Alberta's
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health minister. You don't have to go all the way to Australia. Here's Alberta's health
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minister who was fired yesterday as health minister but given a soft landing in cabinet.
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Here's another Nazi move. Hunting unvaccinated people who are gathering in secret in private
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Imagine being that evil. Hard to imagine. But now imagine doing nothing about it. That's
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easy to imagine. That's... everyone? Hey, look at this. Here's an experiment from two generations
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ago. It's about conformity. It's about conformity. It was designed by Solomon Ash, who was born
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in Poland in 1907, which was a terrible time and place to be born a Jew. 1907 Poland? Almost
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certain death when you would grow up to be in your 30s. But he was lucky. His family moved
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to America before Polish Jews were wiped out. And when he was in America, he became a professor
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and he did studies, including his famous conformity experiments, which tried to answer, why did
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everyone in Nazi Germany just go along with it? I'm going to play for you a four-minute video
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video of his Ash conformity experiment. Take a look.
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But an experiment is not a public opinion, Paul. It examines behavior under the pressure
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of social forces, as the experiment of Solomon Ash reveals.
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The experiment you'll be taking part in today involves the perception of lengths of lines.
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As you can see here, I have a number of cards. And on each card, there are several lines.
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Your task is a very simple one. You're to look at the line on the left and determine which
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of the three lines on the right is equal to it in length. All right, we'll proceed in this order.
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You'll give your answer. Only one of the people in the group is a real subject, the fifth person
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with a white t-shirt. The others are confederates of the experimenter and have been told to give
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wrong answers on some of the trials. The experiment begins uneventfully as subjects give their judgments.
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Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three. Three.
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Two. The subject denies the evidence of his own eyes and yields to group influence.
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One. Ash found subjects went along with the group on 37% of the critical trials.
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One. One. One. But he found through interviews that they went along with the group for different
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reasons. One. One. They must be right. There are four of them and one of me. One.
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Two. This subject's yielding is based on a distortion of his judgment. He genuinely believes that the group
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is correct. One. One. One. One. Two. One. Two. Two. Two. I know they're wrong, but why should I make waves?
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Two. Two. Two. Two. In this case, the subject knows he is right, but goes along to avoid the discomfort of
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disagreeing with the group. Here, the distortion is at the level of his response.
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Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. In the previous experiment, the naive subject stood alone against the group.
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Two. In this variation, Ash gave the naive subject a partner, here seated in the third position, who also gives the correct response.
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One. One. One. Two. One. Two. With a partner, yielding drops to only 5% of the critical trials compared to 37% without a partner.
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Although subjects report warmth and good feeling toward the partner, they typically deny that he played a role in their own independence.
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The partnership variation shows that much of the power of the group came not merely from its numbers, but from the unanimity of its opposition.
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Do you do that? Yes, you do. You think masks are normal now, don't you? You know they're not.
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But everyone else acts like they are, so you wear one. Just not to cause a fuss. That's why. You don't believe in them.
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You know they don't make sense, but that's not the point. You don't want discord. You want peace. You want to be liked.
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Or more importantly, you don't want to be disliked. You know where you can find peace?
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You can find peace in a prison cell, too. In a grave, even.
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There are other things in life besides peace. There's always the peace of surrender.
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So now we know a little bit more about conformity.
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What about conformity and obedience? And conformity and obedience and evil.
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Here's his experiment. It's atrocious and completely believable.
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If you've watched any police misconduct this past year, you know this is right.
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Take a look at this video and then think about police beating peaceful anti-lockdown protesters.
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Or think about the police who arrested Arthur Pawlowski on the road, SWAT team style.
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A decade earlier, psychologist Stanley Milgram had also looked at how we respond to authority.
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In order to understand how people were induced to obey unjust regimes and participate in atrocities such as the Holocaust,
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Volunteers were told they were taking part in scientific research to improve memory.
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Would you open those and tell me which of you is which, please?
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Separated by a screen, the teacher would ask the learner questions in a word game
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and administer an electric shock when the answer was incorrect.
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He was told to increase the voltage with each wrong answer.
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Participants didn't know that the learner was really an actor and the so-called sharks harmless.
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I mean, who's going to take the responsibility if anything happens to that gentleman?
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I'm responsible for anything that happens here.
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Two-thirds of volunteers were prepared to administer a potentially fatal electric shock
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when encouraged to do so by what they perceived as a legitimate authority figure.
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I think something's happened to that fellow in there.
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Can't you check in and see if he's all right, please?
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They showed that decent American citizens were as capable of committing acts against their
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conscience as the Germans had been under the Nazis.
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And they did all that, and what was the authority?
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He wore a white coat, so you know he was a scientist.
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And don't you have to do whatever a man in a white coat says?
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And you know, we've had dozens of people wearing white coats on TV this past year and
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a half telling us to do things to ourselves, but worse, telling us to do things to our elderly
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And now come vaccine passports, the mass unpersoning, the mass apartheid in the original
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of Afrikaans, or Untermenschen in the language of German, Untermenschen, underclass, underpeople,
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Here's a rock concert by an indie band called the Kaiser Chiefs.
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Let me hear it if you've had the Pfizer vaccine.
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Celebrate being clean with Pfizer demonized the unclean Untermenschen.
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Moi, si j'étais patient dans un hôpital, j'accepterais pas qu'une infirmière non-vaccinée soit proche de moi.
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So he would not accept an unvaccinated nurse even standing next to him?
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A nurse who had worked for the last 18 months without a vaccine, who, we were told, were the heroes, but she would be unclean to him.
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Well, last night, I was honored to be a co-host of an event featuring Tucker Carlson, the biggest name in cable news in the United States, the biggest show on TV.
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He's a great conservative activist, but he also is not partisan.
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He talks to well-meaning liberals, whether it's Glenn Greenwald or, you know, Democrats who are not blinded by partisanship.
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He also has a gentle ribbing for Canada, but I think it's because he likes us and he fears what's happening to us under Trudeau.
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The event was sponsored by the Democracy Fund and was hosted by Dr. Charles McVitie at his Canada Christian College.
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Hundreds of people on location and hundreds more watching via a private Zoom link.
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And I tell you this because it was exciting to hang out with Tucker Carlson and that we plan to do many more of these events.
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And I'm going to make sure that you know about them with more lead time.
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We put together this whole Tucker event in only one week.
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Imagine how we could have done with one month's notice.
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But I want to tell you that the day we chose last night was strategic because it was mere hours before the government of Ontario brought in its vaccine mandate, its vaccine passport.
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Which means today and all days forward, you are not allowed even to go into a gathering hall, conference center, restaurant, coffee shop, gym, meeting place of any sort.
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Unless you subject yourself to a vaccine injection, whether you want it or not, whether you need it or not, whether you have natural immunity or not, you're simply being segregated.
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As Tucker said last night, this is a Rosa Parks moment.
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I thought that was an excellent observation and maybe one that an outsider, an American had to make.
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Joining me now right now is our friend Andrew Lawton, a host of the Andrew Lawton Show on True North News.
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It's shocking to me how we went from two weeks to flatten the curve to you're banned from every public place unless you get an injection.
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It's shocking how far we've gone in such a short term.
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And not just as a society, but even politically in Ontario.
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Doug Ford was the guy who just a couple of months ago was scoffing at the idea of vaccine passports, saying he doesn't believe in a split society, a segregated society.
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And you fast forward just a little bit of time.
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And now all of a sudden, if you want to go out to eat in Ontario, you not only have to be vaccinated, but also have to disclose that.
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You have to show your papers to the host at the restaurant, the trainer at the gym, whatever else, just to get your seat at a table, partaking in the benefits of being in what's supposed to be a free society.
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These massive public health prescriptions, that's really what they are.
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None of them have been proven to be effective and to have fewer side effects.
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I'm not talking about the medicine called the vaccine.
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I'm talking about lockdowns, about having children do school via Zoom, of dehumanizing each other with masks and now vaccine passports.
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None of them have been proven to be effective or proven that they're a net public health positive as opposed to a massive negative.
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This is a giant experiment in which we have all been condemned, commanded.
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And one of the central tenets of medicine is voluntariness.
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You can't do a surgery on someone if they don't want it.
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You can't give people a remedy if they don't want it.
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I mean, in some cases, a child cannot make those decisions or someone who doesn't have mental capacity.
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But we never before have ordered people to undergo a medical procedure that they don't want, don't need in many cases, and don't understand in most cases.
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And again, Justin Trudeau, having been reelected now, we just know that this is going to be expanding to boarding a flight, boarding a train.
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Anyone who works in a federally regulated sector, it could be that to appear on cable news in some case, you need to be fully vaccinated and show your papers.
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One of the big things when we've heard some of the few doctors that have been able to speak out against a lot of these measures and talk about what it means to live with it in the endemic stage, just accept that it's all around us.
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We look at the charts in most jurisdictions around the world, and they all look fairly similar.
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Places that went into full lockdown, places like Sweden that did not within Canada.
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You see it in Alberta versus Ontario, Texas, New York, Florida.
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And there's something to that that I think is missing from this discussion in that all of these jurisdictions, regardless of mask mandates, regardless of lockdowns, still had fundamentally the same trajectory.
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Yet still almost two years into this, and we're buying into this idea that we need to take the most risk averse, most extreme approach to flatten the curve.
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You know, it's funny you say that because Israel, which is one of the most vaxxed places in the world, they're literally on their fourth dose now.
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And if you, quote, only have two doses, you're considered unvaxxed.
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And so, I mean, Chris Rock the other day, the comedian, he announced that he had COVID-19.
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He said it was very unpleasant and that he recommended people get a vaccine.
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But it later emerged that he himself had two vaccine shots.
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You know, I heard a joke last night at our event.
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The protected want the unprotected to get protection that isn't protecting the protected.
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Like, how does Chris Rock, who got sick with the vaccine, advise people without the vaccine to get the vaccine so maybe he won't get sick again?
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They're saying the vaccine passport will force people to get the injection.
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They're not even arguing that the vaccine passport will stop infections anymore.
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They're just saying it'll force people to comply with other things.
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They're expressly admitting it's a political bullying tactic.
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No one is claiming that this will make society healthy.
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They're just saying it'll make society compliant.
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And they're showing this is just about control.
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No, and I want to be very clear here that I'm entirely pro-vaccine, if that's what you want.
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I'm vaccinated myself, and I take the view that I got vaccinated to protect myself and other people make the decisions that are right for them.
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Forced vaccination, which is basically what the vaccine passport is, goes into a direction from which there is no coming back as a society.
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The other frontier that's going to very much change this is when they start to lower that minimum age more and more.
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There are going to be a lot of issues when all of a sudden you have to get your five, six, seven-year-old vaccinated to go to public school.
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And I know a lot of parents that were completely fine getting vaccinated themselves.
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But when it gets to young children, that would be a line in the sand.
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And all of a sudden, once you increase the number of eligible people for vaccines, your numerator, the number of people that have been vaccinated relative to the denominator, goes down.
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So all of these targets that lawmakers give us of, oh, when X percent of the population is vaccinated, well, once they expand eligibility to children, that percentage is going to go down, which means we are very much in this for the long haul.
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You know, Jesse Kelly, he's an American pundit.
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He had a tweet the other day, and I started to read it, and I thought, no, this is too much.
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He said, if the government were to announce the sky was green, we'd laugh.
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There would be scientific studies that the sky is green.
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You would be prosecuted for saying the sky is not green.
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And pretty soon people would say, yeah, yeah, it's green.
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He said it more succinctly than me in his tweet.
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But then I thought, no, no, that is absolutely not absurd.
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They'll say that because they start to doubt their own senses and faculties.
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And because if he said it, and if that authority, and because it's not, then what's happening is
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it's testing their own personal confidence versus their confidence in every other institution in the world.
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And so at first I rejected this idea by Jesse Kelly.
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And I mentioned that because, Andrew, you say if they're forcibly vaccinating five-year-olds now,
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that that will be the line in the sand for Canadians, and I say for some of them maybe.
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Oh, it's just school by Zoom for a little week.
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Oh, we're just going to connect that to other vaccines or other health data.
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I think that you will have the same peer pressure and mania, even if they were forcibly injecting
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Well, it's two years to flatten the curve now, and this is the problem.
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I mean, the moving goalposts of the pandemic early on were very notable.
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But now I think a lot of people who were even doing everything they were supposed to do for
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the last 18, 19, 20 months are starting to sour on this.
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So a lot of people who say, OK, yeah, I'll be locked down for a couple of weeks.
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Yeah, I'll avoid opening my restaurant or opening my business.
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A lot of those people who did everything in good faith, thinking that the government was
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operating in good faith are now saying, well, hang on.
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At a certain point, these are the questions that people will have, children, boosters,
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And when you have a vaccine passport, Justin Trudeau tried to do this during the campaign
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When you start closing off civil society to people who do not get vaccinated, you are
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So I don't buy into the semantics that a lot of the lockdown mongers have been giving
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You know, in Australia, construction workers finally stood up.
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And I don't know if you've been following that.
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Construction workers were allowed to work throughout the lockdown, as they have been generally here
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And suddenly, the head of the construction union basically did a deal with the government
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in the state of Victoria, Australia, that they would require anyone working on a construction
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And the members gathered, there was about a thousand of them gathered outside the office
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And I got to say, they had a mini riot, like they started smashing things and throwing things.
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And now it's turned into almost a full week of public protest against the jab.
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It took that union membership to stand up to their own union bosses to show just how widespread,
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I won't even say vaccine skepticism is, but I mean, these construction workers were fine
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until someone said, you are going to be forced to get the jab to work.
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You know, they don't care what other people do.
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They just care that they're being forced into it.
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In fact, it was so incredible, this union membership threatened to picket, to blockade any construction
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So I think what I've learned from that, if there's anything to learn from it, is that
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maybe that there is more widespread opposition to the forced nature of these vaccines that
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we think, but it just needs that seed crystal, that first spark to light a fire, like happened
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And I think the people that go through that transition are going to be the most likely
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to eschew the booster shots when all of a sudden to be considered, quote unquote, fully vaccinated,
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I heard from someone the other day who said, you know, they're a fully vaccinated anti-vaxxer
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now in the sense that they're not actually against the vaccine.
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They're not against vaccines in general, but they're against what's become of this and how
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COVID vaccination has become this political cudgel that was an election issue.
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And very few people, in fact, no one with the exception of the PBC, that was really standing
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up against that idea that Justin Trudeau was putting forward, that this is now a part of
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You have to be vaccinated to enjoy the full rights of being a Canadian.
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Other than new immigrants or refugees, of course, they're not screened either in Canada or the
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I note that Justin Trudeau announced that he has purchased in advance 400 million booster
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As you know, the Canadian population is about 38 million.
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So that's literally 10 for every man, woman, child and baby.
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That suggests that this vaccine mandate will not end with two shots or even one booster.
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That suggests that we are in a perpetual pharmaceutical, you know, captive market.
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The idea of forcibly injecting people, it reminds me of A Clockwork Orange.
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It reminds me of horror movies where people are strapped down and injected, where people
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are declared insane and given drugs against their will.
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And I think that Justin Trudeau, even though he got the law, the lowest percentage of vote
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of any winning party in history in Canada, with one of the lowest voter turnouts in history
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in Canada, he said on election night that he feels he has a clear mandate to proceed with
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And remember, just to look at the longevity of this, Justin Trudeau had mentioned that the
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temporary vaccine passport for travel is going to be coming out in December, which he said
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will be in place for about a year until the government could put a more permanent option
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So you're looking at the beginning of 2023 for the permanent long-term government of Canada
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They only build, they only add on, and they only expand.
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So if government is creating the infrastructure of this beyond the booster shots, my concern is
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what if this becomes now a commonplace for the flu shot every year?
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It's not something that I'm worried about for myself because I know that if I get the
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flu, there's a near certain chance that I'll be okay.
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I don't have any family members in long-term care that I need to deal with.
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But what if all of a sudden, okay, flu shot comes out, you got to update your vaccine passport,
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It's going to start looking like a spring breaker who's just traveled the world by the end of it.
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You've got to have so many stamps on the passport for it to even count.
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You know, I was just looking at the new rules for the vaccine passport in Ontario, and it
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applies, for example, to restaurants and bars and theaters and bingo halls and gyms and swimming
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If I can jump in there for a moment, the gym one I find fascinating.
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So we're going to deny people the right to go to a gym if they're not vaccinated.
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Yeah, I mean, and taking health advice from Doug Ford, who, like me, could probably afford
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to get a little fitter before giving advice to others.
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But I'm just laughing because, of course, the vaccine passport applies to strip clubs,
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I presume it's a club where people go to have sex.
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You need to prove you don't have COVID to get in there.
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I'm guessing there might be a few other infections, sexually transmitted diseases.
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You can't get in if you don't have a COVID vaccine.
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But of course, if they would dare ask you about a sexual illness, well, that would be
00:40:13.540
Switching gears a little bit, Erin O'Toole, the conservative leader, really said nothing.
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That was essentially different from Justin Trudeau, Jagmeet Singh, or the other party leaders
00:40:27.520
The most he would say is, I'm not going to interfere with provinces as they do it.
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But he wouldn't speak out even morally in defense of freedom.
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Trudeau said he'll spend a billion dollars nationalizing the vaccine passports.
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Trudeau, the federal government, of course, is in charge of international gatekeeping.
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So for Erin O'Toole, just to duck the question by saying, it's not my department, well, this
00:40:57.980
I think that's one reason why the PPC vote tripled, because at least Maxime Bernier would
00:41:03.480
So switching gears here a bit, do you think that Erin O'Toole failed in this election?
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And do you think he ought to have some sort of reckoning over it?
00:41:14.700
Listen, so many people in the pundit industrial complex have been trying to spin a way that
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They gambled, and Erin O'Toole's team gambled on what the winning strategy would be.
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If it paid off, if Erin O'Toole had won the election, I think a lot of people would probably
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fall in line on things like the carbon tax and the firearms flip-flop and the conscience
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rights flip-flop and all of these other things, CBC funding.
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And I think there needs to be a reckoning in some form.
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I don't know if he's going to submit himself to a leadership review on an expedited basis
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or if he's going to wait and slow walk it until the constitutionally mandated one in
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the conservatives' next convention, which is about two years from now.
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Now, it's difficult to say, but I think that Erin O'Toole did not at all try to hold on
00:42:14.920
And it's one thing to try to expand the base and bring in new supporters.
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You can't turn your back on the people who got you there.
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And in his case specifically, he was elected leader because of his appeals to the base.
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So when those people feel like they have nothing in you to support, it's not going to go well.
00:42:33.400
And he's already, there's a reason that less than 24 hours after polls close and you already
00:42:37.840
had someone on Conservative National Council launching a petition to oust Erin O'Toole.
00:42:42.360
That's, I think, probably reflective of a lot of very real anger in the party right now.
00:42:47.700
Well, you spent some time on the Conservative campaign bus during the election, and I know
00:42:53.380
I also know you have an interest in firearms rights here, documentary Assaulted.ca.
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I think Erin O'Toole lost some momentum when he allowed the issue of firearms to put him
00:43:13.220
Now, is that spin or did he really cave in on that promise in the middle of the campaign?
00:43:20.400
And this wasn't just a flip on his leadership platform.
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This was a flip on the platform that he gave to reporters and to the public and to Conservatives
00:43:34.260
One of them was to repeal the order in Council that the Liberals adopted in May of 2020 that
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banned about 1,500 different types of popular firearms, including the AR-15, among others.
00:43:48.420
And then after a few days of bad press, he said, OK, we're going to keep the ban in place,
00:43:53.320
and then we're going to launch a review of the system of classification.
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Now, a lot of gun owners took that as a wink-wink.
00:44:00.000
They say, OK, he's going to do it after the review, but he can't say it right now because
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The Liberals still attacked him for doing exactly that.
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They said, OK, now he's just going to do the review and then roll back the ban.
00:44:13.800
And I'm also of the mind now that politicians have turned their back on their base so many
00:44:21.160
I want a politician who's actually going to be unafraid to take a stand and own it and
00:44:25.700
actually build the foundation to sell that policy rather than caving when the Globe and
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Yeah, and one thing, and again, this is something that Tucker said last night.
00:44:38.620
He said, when normal people lie, children lie, they have a grain of truth in what they say
00:44:44.820
because they try and mislead because their conscience comes through.
00:44:57.260
They lie with a drop of truth and they hang on to that truth for their conscience.
00:45:01.660
And he said, whereas leftists, they lie point blank.
00:45:06.000
And he talked about how Stalin would get his victims to sign confessions before he killed
00:45:10.920
them, he would get his victims to accept the blame for their own murders.
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And that that audacity, that audacious, conscience-free lie is a tactic of the left.
00:45:23.360
And so I think that conservatives, because we have, I don't, which I, I mean, listen, every
00:45:32.380
But Aaron O'Toole, you know, by bending the knee, by apologizing, by explaining, the left
00:45:48.180
They took it as a victory and they rubbed his face in it.
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And I think that, I don't know what kind of a liar Aaron O'Toole is.
00:45:58.620
I know that on everything from the carbon tax to firearms to, you know, his profession
00:46:05.660
that he doesn't believe in cancel culture, every one of those things is no longer true.
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I don't know what kind of a liar he is, but I just don't, I don't trust the guy.
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And Andrew, I know you really care about firearms rights.
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And I, what I'm hearing, you feel like you were utterly betrayed.
00:46:20.720
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but if what you're saying is true, I think you
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And I should say, I'm not a single issue voter.
00:46:35.440
I mean, there are a lot of things that I care about that I've reported on.
00:46:41.300
But do I look at it as a commentator, as a journalist, and as a gun owner whose firearms
00:46:47.880
My lawfully owned firearms because the liberals got reelected.
00:46:50.900
But had the conservatives been reelected, the same thing would have applied.
00:47:03.960
As the Pope, Pope John Paul II said, where there's life, there's hope.
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I think that's a Catholic belief, but others can believe it too.
00:47:11.880
The Jews celebrate the numerology of chai, which means life.
00:47:15.860
When Jews say l'chaim to life, there's a spark of hope there.
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You have to have that white pill, that hope that something can get better.
00:47:27.800
I see bad news all around, and I see that so many forces in society are heading towards
00:47:35.480
We should remember that the liberty that our generation enjoyed and that our parents enjoyed
00:47:40.300
was not the normal state of affairs in the world.
00:47:45.860
In the last 5,000 years of recorded history, freedom and peace is not the norm.
00:47:52.520
It was the exception, and I fear that we're slouching back, if not to war, although I fear
00:48:00.140
I fear we're slouching back to, as Hobbes would say, a life that's nasty, brutish, and
00:48:05.780
short, if you don't take the big pharma jab of the day.
00:48:09.040
And on that very sober note, I'm going to bid you adieu, because I know I've kept you
00:48:34.480
Corey writes, I predict Bernier and the PPC's support going forward will be very durable.
00:48:40.420
His campaign over the past month have made me a supporter for life, and I suspect many
00:48:45.880
Well, I tell you, we sure need some force promoting freedom, because I don't see another
00:48:55.180
I had led myself to believe that they would get maybe 10%, but you know what?
00:49:01.480
PJ writes, nothing but respect for Avi and rebel media.
00:49:19.360
Police are coming out with guns, storming things.
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At a shrine of remembrance, it's a big war memorial in Melbourne.
00:49:28.700
Police are storming it because protesters are there.
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I think Australia is truly a form of civil war.
00:49:35.960
It's becoming a rogue state, a police state, an authoritarian state.
00:49:39.820
You know, there were media drones filming it, and the police requested that the drones
00:49:45.860
They were completely safe, being operated as normal, but so that their own misconduct could
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I say, if you want to see the future, look to Australia in terms of civil liberties.
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Look to Israel in terms of a perpetual vaccine and booster mandate.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters in Toronto, to