EZRA LEVANT ｜ Do you get the feeling that they're trying to demoralize us？
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A trip down memory lane with an excerpt from a KGB defector to Canada named Yuri Bezmanov talking about the demoralization of the west in 1984, and a thesis I d like to share on why we should all be demoralized.
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Hello, my friends. Interesting show today, if I may say so myself. A great interview
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with Lawrence Fox from the Reclaim Party in the UK. Boy, does he have a story. I can hardly
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wait to introduce him to you. But before that, I take a trip down memory lane and play for
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you an excerpt from a KGB defector to Canada. His name was Yuri Bezmanov. It's from an interview
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he gave in 1984 about the demoralization of the West. And I've got a thesis I'd like to
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Tonight, do you get the feeling that they're trying to demoralize us? I do, and I don't
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think it's by accident. It's August 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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I'm thinking about the word demoralized a lot. Do you know what I mean by that? You're
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sort of confused. Your confidence is gone. Your spirit, your belief, your passion is gone.
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You're demoralized. You don't really know what principles you hold anymore. What's right
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wrong? Do you even have a reason to exist? I think those are some rough definitions of
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the word demoralized, and I feel like everywhere we look, there are strategic attempts to demoralize
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our entire society. I follow a Twitter account called Libs of TikTok, and it's just what it
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sounds like samples of always young people, liberals, left-wingers on TikTok, and what they're saying in
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many cases, these Libs of TikTok, are teachers bragging about the crazy things they're teaching
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their kids. These days, mainly, they're non-binary, and their gender identity is not what they think it
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is. Here's just a sample of Libs of TikTok, and again, that whole Twitter account is nothing but
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showing what these left-wing teachers are teaching. Take a look at Libs of TikTok.
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Happy Pride Month, friends. I've always considered myself to be an inclusive educator, but it's only been in
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the past few years that I put my words into actions. So at the start of a semester, I ask my students for
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their pronouns, a reminder that they are not preferred, but they are the pronouns that we should be addressing
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them by. And I also ask them to tell me if I can use their pronouns in front of the class, in front of
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other teachers, and what I call home, because everyone is in a different part of their journey,
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and we need to read full to respect that. I've been doing some reading this summer, and so I thought I
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would share a couple of books, because you have a little bit of time left to do some reading. I also
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read Jack Not Jackie by Erica Silverman. Phenomenal read. So if you're a K-1-2-3 even, it's a really good
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read called Jack Not Jackie. And I really enjoyed that, and I'm excited it'll be on our
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Why is that being emphasized on children of tender years? I mean, it would be weird enough
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to have such a sexual domination of content and curriculum at a high school or college level, but
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often this is in grade school. Why? What's the point? Why do we see these drag queen story times
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at libraries for children? Why do we see strip clubs inviting children? And what's the point? Why are we
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trying to denature kids? And that's just sexuality. What about race? Critical race theory being taught
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here in Canada. Canada has not a perfect history, but actually a very noble history when it comes to
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race. We were the destination of the Underground Railroad for runaway slaves from the United States.
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Canada passed a law banning the slave trade in 1793. We were part of the British Empire that actually
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went to war against slavery and slave ships. Why are we then denouncing Canada as being racist? And
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the Emancipation Day event the other day implied that Canada was a major slave-holding country. Why are we
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grafting on that foreign narrative onto Canada and trying to demoralize ourselves? I see that the NDP
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is demanding that all conservative leadership candidates answer the question. Do you believe
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that Canada committed genocide against our First Nations? Yes or no? The NDP is demanding it, but the
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CTV is enforcing it. Since when is it a requirement to be patriotic, to be unpatriotic? Again, our history
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with aboriginal people is not perfect, but a genocide to equate our own country to Nazi Germany,
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the most famous genocider of all? What's going on? Why are we trying to demoralize ourselves? And this is
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of course on top of the perpetual demoralization about the climate and you're to blame. You're the
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reason we're going to die because you drive a car and heat your home in the winter and cool it in the
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summer. We saw that with these climate tire, this tire terrorism that we saw that I did my show about
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the other day. We're normalizing crimes against you because of your tires. I don't understand it,
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but then I remembered a video I saw years ago of a KGB agent who defected from the Soviet Union
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and found his way to Canada of all places in 1970. Now Trudeau Sr. was just in his first term
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and Canada welcomed this KGB defector and in fact helped him set up a new life. He even worked briefly
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at the CBC, which is stunning. That would never happen these days. Of course,
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these days, if you were an anti-communist defector, embarrassing a communist regime,
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Trudeau wouldn't have you because he's in favor of the communist regimes, whether it's Cuba
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or China or the former Soviet Union. And the idea that an anti-communist would find work at the CBC is
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unthinkable. Besmanov later says that the KGB pressured Trudeau to fire him. That part,
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I would believe. But his name was Yuri Besmanov and he lived in the West and he really tried to raise
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the alarm in the West about how the KGB operated. And let me read to you one line from an interview,
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and I'm going to play you a fully a nine minute excerpt of a interview he did of more than an hour.
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But I want to read to you this very interesting point that caught me by surprise. Let me quote,
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and you'll hear this in the clip I'm about to show you. Besmanov said the main emphasis of the KGB is
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not in the area of intelligence at all. Only about 15 percent of the time money and manpower
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is spent on espionage and such. The other 85 percent is a slow process, which we call either
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ideological subversion or active measures or psychological warfare. Psychological warfare.
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Do you know where I'm coming from? I was just talking to you about demoralizing our whole country,
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especially our youth. Well, in 1984, after he had been in the West for more than a dozen years,
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Besmanov sat down for, I would call it a feature interview, and you can find it pretty quickly
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on YouTube. That's where I took the following clip. And he describes in great detail the Soviet plan for
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the West and how it was well underway. And as he says, it wasn't in the form of spy craft.
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It was psychological warfare. It was undermining Western confidence. And I've just gone through it from
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libs of tick tock to critical race theory to calling our own country genociders, all of these things,
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demonizing Canada for our slavery, slavery past when we were the place where slaves ran away to.
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That's the demoralization that Besmanov talked about. I'm going to play for you nine minutes solid.
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I don't agree with every word he says. It was clearly a speech of the moment of 1984.
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Perhaps one of the sharpest rivalries between the West and freedom. Ronald Reagan was president
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and the Soviet Union. I think Yuri Andropov was the head of Russia at the time. Let me play
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nine minutes for you. And I, and please do watch this. I, the whole video was over an hour. Obviously,
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I couldn't do that, but I wanted to let enough be said here. So you got a flavor of Besmanov,
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and I hope that you feel motivated to click and watch the whole YouTube on your own. Please come back
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after nine minutes because there's a few things I want to say about how this might apply to us today.
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So here's Yuri Besmanov in 1984 talking about what the KGB is really like and how to demoralize the West.
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I'll see you in nine minutes. Ideological subversion is, is the process which is legitimate, overt,
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and open. You, you can see it with your own eyes. All, all you have to do, all American mass media has
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to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it. There is no
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mystery. There is nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage, intelligence gathering, looks
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more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising, probably. That's why your Hollywood
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producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of
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the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and opinion of many
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defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The
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other 85% is a slow process, which we call either ideological subversion or active measures,
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активные мероприятия, in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is
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to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of
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information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves,
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their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very
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slow and is divided in four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20
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years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which
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requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of
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the enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least
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three generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of
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Americanism, American patriotism. The result? The result you can see. Most of the people who
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graduated in the 60s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions
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of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them.
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You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli
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in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind. Even if you expose them to authentic information,
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even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception
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and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and
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irreversible. To get rid of society of these people, you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new
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generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the
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interests of the United States society. And yet these people have been programmed and, as you say,
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in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept, these are the very people who
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would be marked for extermination in this country? Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological
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shock when they will see in future what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in
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practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And the Marxist-Leninist
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regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the links of dissenters, dissidents.
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Unlike in the present United States, there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist
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America. Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident,
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for criticizing your Pentagon. In future these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is
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going to pay them nothing for their beautiful noble ideas of equality. This they don't understand and it
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will be greatest shock for them, of course. The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed
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already for the last 25 years. Actually it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas
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where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would would even dream of such a tremendous
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success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before
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exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess
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true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof,
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with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp,
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he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot
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crashes his then he will understand but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization.
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So basically America is stuck with demoralization and unless even if you start right now, here this minute,
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you start educating new generation of Americans, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of
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of ideological perception of reality back to normalcy and patriotism.
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The next stage is destabilization. This time subverter does not care about your ideas and the
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patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby doesn't matter anymore.
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This time, and it takes only from two to five years to destabilize a nation,
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what matters is essentials. Economy, foreign relations, defense systems.
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And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as defense and economy,
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the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic.
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I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
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The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to six weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis.
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And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy,
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you have so-called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely.
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Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda.
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When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 1968, Comrade Brezhnev said,
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now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized.
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This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all the schmucks to bring the country to crisis,
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to promise people all kinds of goodies and the paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy,
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to eliminate the principle of free market competition and to put a big brother government
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in Washington DC with benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things,
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never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not.
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He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of new generation of Soviet assassins, never mind.
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He will create false illusions that the situation is under control.
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The situation is not under control. The situation is disgustingly out of control.
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Most of the American politicians, media and educational system,
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trains another generation of people who think they are living at a peacetime.
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False. The United States is in a state of war. Undeclared total war against the basic principles
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and the foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov, of course.
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It's the system, however ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist
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conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hood. If you're not scared by now,
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nothing can scare you. What do you think of that? Do you think he's right? I think he's obviously right.
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I think it's been proven true. Now, what's interesting is he said those things in 1984.
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Two years later, the Chernobyl nuclear reactor blew up. And I really believe, especially after watching the
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mini-series Chernobyl, which I highly recommend, that I really believe it was a catalyst for the
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demoralization of the Soviet Union. The economic exhaustion, the loss of face and confidence. The
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greatest nuclear disaster in history befell the Soviet Union. And they couldn't handle it. And they tried to
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cover it up. And they were too ashamed to ask for help from the West. And just trying to deal with it with
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such a massive command of the resources of the state, it really, in concert with Reagan's military
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built up, was the end of the Soviet Union. And you could say in some ways, it truly demoralized the
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Soviets, or at least their citizens, not through any psychological warfare, but just from the shattering
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impact that such a calamity, a government-made, government-exacerbated tragedy and shock had on the
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country. That was not yet known when Bezmanov gave his speech in 1984. But the Soviet Union fell. And I
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think perhaps surprising a few people, a few people, it fell without a shot. All those mighty armies were
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not needed. In the end, the Berlin Wall fell and dominoes one after the other. Now, we didn't have a
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de-Soviet, de-communistification progress or process like we had after World War II. As you know, there was a
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de-Nazification process in Nazi Germany to get rid of that ideology that never happened
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in the former Soviet Union because it ended without a shot. But I don't think that the Soviet Union is
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dominant anymore. It no longer exists as a country. Russia is at war with the West, you could say. But
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I don't think that other than its oil and gas weapon and its threats to its nearby neighbors, it is the
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total threat that it wanted to be when Bezmanov spoke on it. But I think the enemies of the West,
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the enemies of freedom, the enemies of American democracy and the Allied West exist still. But
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instead of the Soviet Union as the alternative, maybe it's China. Maybe it's not a country at all,
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but a class. The world's oligarchs, whether it's Bezos and Zuckerberg or George Soros or the World
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Economic Forum. I mean, the World Economic Forum speaks about global domination, about infiltrating
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and penetrating governments around the world. Here's a man with a German accent named Klaus Schwab,
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but if he had a Russian accent and if he represented the Communist Party rather than the World Economic
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Foreign Forum Party, it would pretty much sound the same. Remember this? What we are very proud of
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now is the young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau, President of Argentina and so on,
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that we penetrate the cabinets. So yesterday I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau,
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and I would know that half of this cabinet, or even more half of this cabinet, are actually young
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global leaders of the world. A group of presidents for life, that's what the World Economic Forum is,
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accountable to no one, talking about penetrating the world's governments and having a kind of global
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governance. How is that really significantly different from the Soviet Union? I put it to
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you that the demoralization continues, and it's not at the behest of the Soviet Union. I think China is
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happy to see it and Iran and the other enemies of the West, but the real people whipping it up are not
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in Moscow. They're in New York and Hollywood. They're oligarchs. They're people who demoralize us
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through pornography, through gaming, through big pharma, through numbing us and dulling us. And
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as Yuval Noah Harari says, making us useless to the point where all we'll do is take drugs and play
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video games to pass the time. Here's the World Economic Forum's Yuval Noah Harari talking about that.
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And then the big political and economic question of the 21st century will be,
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what do we need humans for? Or at least, what do we need so many humans for? Do you have an answer
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in the box? At present, the best guess we have is keep them happy with drugs and computer games.
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In the industrial revolution of the 19th century, what humanity basically learned to produce
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was all kinds of stuff like textiles and shoes and weapons and vehicles. And this was enough
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for very few countries that underwent the revolution fast enough to subjugate everybody else.
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What we're talking about now is like a second industrial revolution, but the product this time
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will not be textiles or machines or vehicles or even weapons. The product this time will be humans
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themselves. We are basically learning to produce bodies and minds. Bodies and minds are going to be
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I think the two main products of the next wave of all these changes. And if there is a gap between
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those that know to produce bodies and minds and those that do not, then this is far greater than
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anything we saw before in history. And this time, if you're not part of the revolution fast enough,
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then you probably become extinct. Once you know how to produce bodies and brains and minds,
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so cheap labor in Africa or South Asia or wherever, it simply counts for nothing.
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Again, I think that the biggest question maybe in economics and politics of the coming decades
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will be what to do with all these useless people. I don't think we have an economic model for that.
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My best guess, which is just a guess, is that food will not be a problem. With that kind of technology,
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you will be able to produce food to feed everybody. The problem is more boredom.
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And how, what to do with them and how will they find some sense of meaning in life when they are
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basically meaningless, worthless. My best guess at present is a combination of drugs and computer games.
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Demoralizing a country, taking away its meaning, taking away its purpose. China is full of purpose
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and charisma and plans. I think they're wrong. I think they're authoritarian. I think they're
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in frankly in many ways imperialist and even racist. I think the Chinese Communist Party
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is the threat that the Soviet Communist Party never quite could be. And I think technology and economy
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are the two reasons for it. And while China gets more and more confident, we undermine ourselves.
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If you look at Rachel Levine in uniform, compare that to the Chinese military's actions around Taiwan
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the past few days, you know which is the demoralized country and which is the country on the ascent.
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I think that the West is still under attack from demoralization, as Yuri Bezmenov told us
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almost 40 years ago. But it's not under attack from Moscow. You could say it's partly under attack from
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China, including through the TikTok app, which is from China. But there is a class that seeks to
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undermine us by taking away our moral confidence and replacing it with any sort of the opiums I've
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listed a moment ago. I think we're still in trouble. And I think we haven't listened to Yuri Bezmenov.
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And sometimes I wonder if it's too late. Speaking of demoralization,
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you're not going to believe our next interview after this short break.
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Well, here at Rebel News, we deal with online sensors all the time. But typically,
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that takes the form of Facebook saying, we will not post this. It goes against our community
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standards or on YouTube. You can actually get a strike, they're called. Three strikes, you're out.
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If you say something that's disapproved, for example, if you repeat any of Donald Trump's arguments
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about the 2020 election being compromised, that's a strike, very specific. If you say things that are
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against public health orders, that can be a strike. But like I say, the punishment is only within
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that app. You're not actually getting punished in real life. You're just losing your
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access to your account. But not so in the United Kingdom, where there are literally hundreds of police
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on the Facebook beat. And what I mean by that is, if they find a Facebook post that goes against
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their police sensibilities, very political, they can actually show up at your house. I'm talking about
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uniformed police. They can even arrest you. Take a look at this video from last week in the United
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Kingdom. No. Culture police would realise how ridiculous this is. It is ridiculous.
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What did it need to come to? Tell us why you escalated it to this level. Because I don't
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understand. I posted something that he posted. You come to arrest me, you don't arrest him.
00:29:01.060
Why has it come to this? Why am I in cuffs? Because it's something he shared, then I shared.
00:29:05.700
Because someone has been caused, obviously, anxiety based upon your social media post.
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We're not his. That's why you've been arrested. The anxiety caused by your social media posts. Well,
00:29:18.260
I think that I'm anxious just watching them talk about someone be anxious and arresting a man. Well,
00:29:24.340
that video was filmed by a man with nerves of steel. And I'm delighted to say he joins us now. His name
00:29:30.900
is Lawrence Fox. He's the leader of the Reclaim Party in the United Kingdom. He's also involved with
00:29:36.900
the Bad Law Project, which is a wonderful name. We'll talk a little bit more about him, but mainly
00:29:42.900
we want to talk about this case. Lawrence Fox joins us now via Skype from the UK. Lawrence,
00:29:47.540
great to have you on the show. I'm a fan and a follow of yours on social media. You caused me some
00:29:52.820
anxiety, but I don't think I would ever sick the cops on you for causing me that anxiety. Tell us a
00:29:58.100
little bit more about who that man was that was being arrested and what did he do to make people
00:30:04.100
so anxious that the cops thought they'd have to arrest him. It's lovely to see you, Ezra, and I'm
00:30:10.500
glad that I caused you anxiety. That's the whole fun of social media, isn't it? Well, actually, the man's
00:30:18.020
name is Darren Brady. He's a decorated military veteran from the Light Infantry in Great Britain, which
00:30:26.340
an army battalion and regiment held in high esteem in this country. And it's actually my fault,
00:30:36.900
this whole thing, because on the first day of the Holy Month of Pride, I took a meme that had been
00:30:43.860
circulating of these four progressive pride flags put together. And when they're put together edge to
00:30:49.300
edge, they create the shape of a swastika. And I thought, seeing as pride is about, you know, absolute
00:30:58.100
obedience to this, this trans ideology, and this progressive plot pride movement, I thought I'd
00:31:06.580
compare it to, to Nazism, essentially, because if you walk down the main shopping street in London,
00:31:14.660
in Pride Month, it is like a Nuremberg rally, it's just pride flags across the street. And sure to form,
00:31:22.580
Twitter took me down for it. And I had to apologize to the great Twitter police. Then this man, Darren Brady,
00:31:31.300
who obviously served our country with pride, reposted the meme on Facebook in a group and said,
00:31:38.660
what do we think of this? And for that, he was reported to the police for what they call a
00:31:45.300
non crime hate incident causing of offence, essentially, it's it comes out of a set of
00:31:51.860
guidance, and it has a long history. But anyway, you can tell by the title of it, that it's completely
00:31:56.180
ridiculous as an idea of non crime crime. So he was visited by the police, we have noticed in the UK that
00:32:04.500
these political ideologies, these very, very leftist political ideologies have taken root in every one
00:32:10.820
of our national institutions, you can see in Canada as well, and across the former liberal West. And
00:32:17.220
he was visited by the police, by three of them on a Sunday morning. And they started to harass him.
00:32:25.460
So he told them that he to go away and come back in a in a in a week, which they did. And in the
00:32:32.820
meantime, he called us the bad ball project. And we went down there and we decided that we would film
00:32:38.500
the police's interaction with this man to see just how they would behave. And, you know,
00:32:44.980
the footage went absolutely viral. I think it's gone to sort of four and a half million views. Now,
00:32:49.940
as you see the police trying to police the inside of someone's mind, when seven out of 10 coppers in
00:32:57.300
London, coppers being policemen here, haven't made an arrest in a year. But only 5% of burglaries are
00:33:04.260
solved. So real crime is at a record high in the UK. But they managed to find in the end, seven officers
00:33:11.060
and two vans to arrest two thought criminals. And it's just an example of how dreadfully Britain is
00:33:19.540
falling. Now, in the face of these are foundational institutions overtaken by wokery.
00:33:26.980
Well, help me out with this. And maybe there is no good answer to it. If it is a quote,
00:33:31.940
non crime hate incident, I wrote that down carefully, because that is quite a pretzel, isn't it? I mean,
00:33:37.940
is it a crime or not? And if it's not a crime, why are the cops here on a Sunday morning?
00:33:41.860
So if it's a non crime, how do you arrest someone for a non crime? What was the reason they they
00:33:48.580
arrested him? Because he was wouldn't talk with them, he wouldn't go quietly? Did they did they
00:33:54.500
finally charge him with some sort of crime? That's that's the puzzle for me is how do you get arrested
00:33:59.780
for a non crime? Exactly. This is the problem. Well, there was a the police have made a litany
00:34:06.260
of mistakes here. And there will be a film actually, which we'll put out tomorrow. I'm happy,
00:34:11.140
really happy to send it to you. And you'll see, essentially, it's section 127 of the Public Order
00:34:17.300
Act, which is causing which was intended, you know, causing someone gross offence or something like
00:34:23.140
this, you know, that came about several years ago. But what the non crime is, is actually
00:34:30.260
the history of it is quite noble. But because it was it came about as a result of Stephen Lawrence,
00:34:36.100
who was murdered in a racist murder in the UK, and the police, the McPherson report found that if
00:34:43.060
they had been able to follow and look for these racist killers, who vile racist murderers who killed
00:34:50.900
Stephen Lawrence, before they committed the act, then maybe they would be able to stop the act
00:34:54.900
taking place. But obviously, now it's just been overtaken by the woke people, the Mr. Brady was not
00:35:01.380
charged. Harry Miller, the co founder, with myself and others of the bad law project, was arrested for
00:35:10.100
obstructing the police, because he said he had, he hasn't committed a crime. So you cannot arrest him.
00:35:16.020
And he was released, Darren was taken into the cells, dragged out in front of his neighbours and
00:35:23.300
his local community. And he was dragged into a police van taken to the cells and released 90
00:35:29.300
minutes later without charge. It was it was a shakedown. That's what it was. It was it was an
00:35:34.260
attempt to and I'm bearing in mind that I was the person that created the meme in the first place.
00:35:39.700
I was just very surprised that I wasn't arrested. That was why I was there. I was like, I did it.
00:35:44.500
Why are you not arresting me? But in true to form, the British police decide to do to get the small
00:35:50.100
guy. So they'll go and get the small guy, scare him and his community rather than go after me.
00:35:56.180
Well, that's the thing. I mean, you have cops come to your home. They're saying we know where you live.
00:36:00.340
We're watching you. We're not bound by any rules that you might think we don't have to
00:36:07.220
have a real crime here. We're coming here. And every one of your neighbours can see we're coming
00:36:11.860
here. So be embarrassed and be scared. It's a psychological attack. I wonder if these same
00:36:21.220
police would show such courage in British cities like Rotherham or Telford or Roschdale or any of
00:36:27.940
the places where literally thousands of young British girls have been raped on a systemic basis
00:36:35.300
again and again and again by these rape gangs or they're sometimes called grooming gangs. I don't
00:36:40.420
think that's a strong enough word. The police, according to government inquiries, say they were
00:36:46.420
afraid of being called racist. So they literally did not stop these industrial scale rape rooms.
00:36:54.260
But boy, they got time to go after. You said you say there were seven cops in the end that went after
00:36:58.900
this fatal crime. Seven, eh? Yeah. In the end, there were seven cops who could be. Hampshire burglary
00:37:06.580
is you're lucky nowadays in the UK and in Hampshire as well. If your house is burgled,
00:37:12.820
you're lucky if a policeman will attend. So, you know, and as you say, the problem with political
00:37:18.740
policing, which is what we have in the UK, is that they will only police certain things. And
00:37:23.300
uh, uh, uh, as you say, grooming gangs, not a strong enough word for it is systemic rape.
00:37:28.260
Uh, they, they were too frightened, you know, and, and, and this division caused in society by,
00:37:34.820
uh, assuming or causing, calling everyone a racist. If they happen to try and solve a crime that
00:37:40.820
involves somebody from a different ethnicity has left, uh, thousands and thousands of victims.
00:37:46.980
Uh, young women, utterly, utterly, uh, abandoned by their, by the justice system. And yet, you know,
00:37:54.100
as you say, come and police someone's thoughts. It's the sign of a, of a completely broken, uh,
00:37:59.220
legal system and policing system. And, and I can't really think about what to do to mend it,
00:38:03.460
other than to disband the police force and rehire it and, and get a new one, because it's everywhere.
00:38:09.940
The, the, the anti-racism cause is everywhere. And, um, the metropolitan police is full of it.
00:38:15.940
We've got record knife crime in London that in England, we've never had more crime than we have
00:38:21.620
now since records began. And that, that's not a good thing, but somehow you can spare seven officers
00:38:27.620
to come and, um, shake down a guy. They, uh, initially they said, if we, if you give us 60 pounds,
00:38:34.580
we will, um, send you off on a re-education course and, um, you can, then we will get rid of the charges.
00:38:41.620
So essentially it's just a shakedown. It's, it's like, it's the early days of the Stasi,
00:38:45.460
the Gestapo and the Cheka. That's what it is. Yeah. It's crazy. Now I understand that, um,
00:38:50.980
I mean, this is really ricocheted around the UK, but like you say, it's gone global. I understand
00:38:54.820
that, um, a politically attentive commissioner has said, yeah, I saw the video and I, and I don't
00:39:00.660
like what I saw. What, what's been the reaction from some of the higher brass? I'm, I'm guessing
00:39:05.620
they're not going to actually change anything. They're just embarrassed by this one incident.
00:39:10.020
So they're going to pretend that they don't support this. Yeah. Uh, they, they, they, what
00:39:15.060
they could, they call them police and crime commissioners in the UK. So the local police
00:39:19.300
and crime commissioner for that area, uh, through her force under the bus, but the, and the chief
00:39:24.900
constable actually subsequently has been sideways promoted. So she's lost her job, uh, as far as I can
00:39:33.060
gather. Um, but yeah, there'll be a lot of noise about it and there'll be a lot of, oh, we did,
00:39:37.460
we condemn this behavior and all of this stuff, but nothing will change. But that's why the bad
00:39:41.620
law project is so important because we will be going after the police. Now what happened on, uh,
00:39:48.740
the initial Sunday and then the following Thursday when we turned up is just the beginning of the
00:39:53.780
process because, uh, you know, as you well know, and as anyone who's been canceled or who's suffered
00:39:59.220
at the hand of these woke ideologues, they make the process, the punishment, and we are going to do
00:40:04.660
exactly the same. We're going to take them to their highest court and land and get rid of these
00:40:09.300
non-crime hate incidents and get rid of, uh, this political policing because we, the British
00:40:15.940
police charter says that you're to police all communities without fear, without favor. And
00:40:21.060
you see that that is not taking place in England. The way the lockdown protests were policed was very
00:40:26.580
aggressive, uh, involved quite a lot of violence from the police, but you can go and smash a window of,
00:40:32.020
uh, a BP or SO or, or any oil corporation or anything like that. And the police are just
00:40:38.100
standby and watch idly. So we need to return a sense of trust and faith in our police force,
00:40:44.100
which is, is now vanished. And I'm glad that what we're doing is highlighting this. And we're
00:40:48.980
going to go after every single national institution that is corrupted. We have education, which is
00:40:53.940
corrupted in the UK through exactly the same as what's happening in America and Canada, um, CRT,
00:40:59.220
diversity, equity, inclusion, gender ideology. We have, um, the same in the health service.
00:41:06.180
So, you know, that this was just our first shot. And, um, we, we have a long line of things that
00:41:12.100
we're going to do until we have our institutions back and until they support the country that they're
00:41:17.700
meant to represent. So is that, are you talking about the bad law project? Cause it's just such an
00:41:22.740
interesting name. Give me one minute. Like what is it? Is it, is it a law firm? Is it a public interest
00:41:29.060
group? Is it an advocacy group? Uh, how do you join? And do you have a website? Like,
00:41:32.900
I just love the name, the bad law project. Cause there is a lot of bad law and bad law enforcement.
00:41:39.060
Give me just a minute on, on what that is. Yeah, sure. So there's a, there's a very famous woke
00:41:46.340
barrister in England who, uh, started up a legal entity called the good law project, uh, who, you
00:41:54.420
know, does everything work. So we thought, well, we'll do the bad law project. Essentially the bad
00:41:59.860
law project is an, it, it involves, we have a legal team. We then have an uncancellable,
00:42:07.220
thank you Canada for teaching us that, an uncancellable crowdfunding mechanism.
00:42:12.100
Oh, good. So, uh, and we are able to, uh, take, you know, take donations from people who, who,
00:42:20.100
who want to fight back against it. And we have a legal team sat in the room over there, um,
00:42:25.460
currently working on a slew of cases. So essentially it, it, it will in time, I imagine become
00:42:31.860
a legal firm, but at the moment it's a, it's a legal movement. It's a political movement via legal,
00:42:37.460
uh, legal methods and it, but it's, but it's anti-political as well, you know, because I think
00:42:42.500
anyone who cares about free speech and, and the right to free expression, you don't need to be a
00:42:47.300
conservative or, or left wing or a centrist. We should all believe in free speech. And, um, we have,
00:42:54.180
you know, some of the people we're looking, we're representing a green party members and stuff like
00:42:58.020
that. So it's, um, it's, it's going to be interesting, but at the moment it's, I suppose
00:43:02.820
it's a movement and, um, and it's, it's a movement with, with legal teeth. And we're, we'll also find
00:43:08.900
out ironically, uh, just how corrupted the judiciary are. Yeah. Well, it's, you're right to say that
00:43:16.180
there's, uh, the old ideological lines don't necessarily work. I mean, I, I know that big brother
00:43:22.340
watch in the UK, it's typically on the left silky Carlo. These are activists against state
00:43:27.460
surveillance. And I think maybe in the past, I would have regarded them as lefties and, and
00:43:32.260
opponents. But I think the people on the right and the left can both, both agree with privacy
00:43:38.500
and getting away from the surveillance state and, and reclaiming as your party is called freedom of
00:43:44.740
speech. I, I want to ask you, has the left in the UK completely abandoned their former love for free
00:43:52.820
speech? I, I mentioned one or two quick exceptions there, but in Canada, free speech is now put in
00:43:58.740
quotation marks in the media and the people who used to believe in it in the sixties and seventies
00:44:04.740
are now the chief censors. Um, is there still a liberal movement for free speech in the UK or is
00:44:12.020
that really evaporated? Um, there is, but the, uh, in the same as Canada, you get the, uh, parentheses
00:44:20.580
around it. So free speech is essentially a, now what they would call a right wing dog whistle.
00:44:26.100
There are some traditional left wing voters, uh, who are very much believe in free speech,
00:44:31.300
but the problem is in the same way as you have in America, you have a very, very radical leftist wing
00:44:36.980
of the Labour Party, which is, uh, you know, our, our equivalent of the Democrats, uh, in the States
00:44:44.420
who drive the opposition's priorities to the point where the leader of the Labour Party, much like, uh,
00:44:52.020
Katanya, what's her name? The latest Supreme Court judge, Jackson Brown, um, couldn't tell you what a
00:44:58.900
woman is. So they, they've abandoned that not only have they abandoned free speech, they've abandoned
00:45:05.220
the meaning of words, which is a much more dangerous thing altogether. And I was looking actually this
00:45:11.140
morning on, um, Wiktionary, uh, the, the, the, the definition of the meaning of the word definition.
00:45:18.420
And that's, that's quite interesting. It's a definition is a fluid sense of terms. It's like,
00:45:23.780
no, it's not. That's exactly the opposite of what definition means. So, um, you know, for those that
00:45:29.140
it's not so much about defending free speech anymore, it's about defending language and the
00:45:33.140
meaning of words and the meaning of law. So, you know, it's, uh, we, we're in very, very perilous
00:45:38.740
times. Wow. Well, I mean, we've learned just so much from you in the last, uh, 15 minutes. I'm
00:45:44.180
very grateful to you to, to join us. And I, I have some hope when I look to the UK, I see little
00:45:49.460
green shoots of freedom, whether it's the reclaim party or GB news, which I think is a very thoughtful,
00:45:56.340
uh, news. And it's, and the fact that it's doing so well in the ratings,
00:46:00.660
the daily skeptic and Toby young and his, his free speech, uh, projects. I, I feel like the UK
00:46:08.260
has not lost as much as we have had as we have lost here in Canada. Maybe I'm only looking at the
00:46:14.660
good stuff over there because I know it's pretty bad too, but, um, I, I hope that there's a resurgence
00:46:20.500
and I love the name of your party, the reclaim party, because you are reclaiming the heritage
00:46:25.540
that we have inherited here. I mean, we are daughters of the empire. We are the part of the
00:46:30.580
commonwealth. Our legacy traces back to you. And so it's essential that you Brits keep your love for
00:46:37.300
freedom because that, that's what was handed down to us. I were downstream in some ways from you,
00:46:42.740
but it's great to have you on the show and I wish you good luck with both the reclaim party
00:46:47.220
and the bad law project. We'll sure keep our eyes peeled. Thank you, Ezra. Lovely to talk to you.
00:46:55.220
the leader of the reclaim party and co-founder of the bad law project. Stay with us more ahead.
00:47:00.260
Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. AJ 118 says fact-checking didn't exist until the truth
00:47:18.340
started coming out. Well, listen, fact-checking has always existed. It's you and me. We check our own
00:47:24.740
facts. We read alternative sources of information. You know, what is an election campaign but two
00:47:30.980
parties fact-checking and disputing the other? What is a trial other than two people with alter,
00:47:37.220
alternate points of view on the facts and the arguments? We always fact-check. Life is about
00:47:43.060
checking and testing the, the scientific method is about checking facts and checking hypothesis and
00:47:48.660
trying to prove the other guy wrong. But to claim that in a political debate, there is one side,
00:47:53.860
is the sole monopoly on objective truth and anyone else is a liar. I think the fact-checking industry
00:47:59.860
is a lie itself. Friend of the King said, well, we can be sure of one thing. The so-called police
00:48:05.700
will never catch them or even investigate. You're talking about these tire, um, tyrants who go around
00:48:12.180
taking the air out of tires in Victoria. They, uh, declared victory, um, in the state capital of
00:48:21.140
Victoria. Uh, I would like it if the police would, would catch someone taking the air out of tires, but
00:48:27.620
I would like it even more if a politician said, hey, that's wrong. We don't accept that, but
00:48:32.500
haven't seen any of that yet. That's the show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here
00:48:38.420
at rebel world headquarters to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom. Hey everyone.
00:48:44.180
Will and I just here with rebel news recently, Justin Trudeau invested enormous amount of money
00:48:49.700
and aspire a basically farming place that will produce bugs for human consumption. And the world
00:48:56.740
economic forum is pushing the agenda that, well, we should put all of our good stake aside and instead
00:49:03.540
sorely eat bugs. So right now, today I am here in university of Ottawa, a woke and liberal hotspot
00:49:10.340
here in Ontario to ask people if they are actually willing to trade their beef for bugs and to be
00:49:16.660
compelled to eating bugs. And I have some bugs with me. So we'll be able to also make them taste it.
00:49:22.180
Let's go and find out how it goes. Okay. So do you feel that climate change is an important issue
00:49:27.620
nowadays that's going to affect future generations? Uh, yes, I do think it's really important. Um,
00:49:32.660
it's like an issue that like affects everybody and like all living organisms, not just humans,
00:49:37.540
but like other animals and plants and all that. So I think it's super important. Yeah, for sure.
00:49:42.580
Because of the, like the, I don't know, the fire, like the, um, rainforests are going to be on fire.
00:49:49.220
Um, the diseases, they're like spreading like the global pandemic and that's with climate change.
00:49:55.300
I encourage, of course, of course, 100%. Uh, yes, very important. Uh, I'm currently in a field where
00:50:02.020
I'm in mechanical engineering. I actually want to go into, uh, the field of energy to try and help the
00:50:08.660
energy crisis, burning fossil fuels, which is terrible and maybe promote more electrical vehicles
00:50:15.380
and stuff like that. Do you think politicians should care more about climate change than what
00:50:19.300
they do right now? Absolutely. There are a lot more inondations, cyclones, etc.
00:50:25.860
Greenpeace and the World Economic Forum in order to fight for climate change are encouraging right
00:50:30.260
now the conception of bugs and putting the production of beef aside. Do you think that's a suitable solution?
00:50:37.060
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So instead of eating steak, you would basically eat bugs. Oh, eating bugs? Um,
00:50:42.580
uh, that, I mean, yes, there is protein in that because like trying to like have all the food groups.
00:50:49.060
So I do understand that and like trying to like replace, yeah, beef with that or like that would
00:50:54.180
be a suitable solution. Yeah, that would be a suitable solution. So it's definitely like effective
00:50:57.300
solution to like eliminate the use of beef or like decreasing as much as possible. Suitable. I don't
00:51:04.100
know if most people in the public will like the idea, but we already know in some places in the world,
00:51:10.820
it's already introduced into their diet and their food and stuff like that. So I definitely think
00:51:15.540
it's possible. Do you think that's a good solution for the future? I do, yes. Do you think people
00:51:20.820
should be forced to eat bugs in the name of climate change? I don't think they should be forced, but I
00:51:25.380
do think it's an option and it should be available. It should be encouraged, do you think? Yeah. Have you
00:51:30.180
ever eaten bugs by yourself? Do you find that it tastes good? The ones I had, yes. Well, actually we have some
00:51:35.940
right here. We actually brought for you some green grasshoppers, I believe, if you want to taste them.
00:51:47.220
Would you be willing to trade all of your beef for this? Maybe not all of it, but I would definitely
00:51:52.980
half my beef consumption for this, yeah. Would you be willing to eat bugs instead of that?
00:51:56.340
Yeah, yeah. So actually you're in luck because right now we brought some bugs today. We brought some
00:52:06.900
grasshoppers that are eatable. There's salt and lemon. So would you be willing to trade this
00:52:12.740
for your Big Mac that you see right here? You can touch one, you can taste one.
00:52:15.860
Do you think that tastes better than beef? Not really. So do you feel it's a good idea that the
00:52:30.420
Klaus Schwab and the people at the WEF are forcing people to eat that or want to force people to eat
00:52:35.300
that instead of having some delicious Big Macs? Uh, I don't want that. You don't want to say anything?
00:52:42.260
Uh, like I don't want, like, not- Oh, you don't want to eat them? Yeah, not for me.
00:52:53.460
Do you think that's good? Yeah, it's not bad at all. You can eat one if you want to.
00:52:57.780
Not really, I mean- Did you know that Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Farm wants you
00:53:01.540
to be forced to trade your beef and your steak for this? And scorpions and tarantulas?
00:53:07.300
I would go vegetarian, honestly, but I'm not sure if I'm going to, like, try bugs.
00:53:14.260
You don't want to try one in the name of climate change?
00:53:18.100
I'll take one, but I'm not going to eat it. You can take one and also eat it.
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Just say, you know, that's a good solution. Would you be willing to trade your beef for that? Do you
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want to taste them? Would I want to taste it? Like, can I, like, feel it? Of course, 100%.
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Yeah. Oh, wow. And, like, you can, like, eat the whole- Yeah, you can just crunch it. Yeah,
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it's totally eatable. Okay, I guess- Do you want to try it? Yeah. Okay.
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It's actually not that bad. So, you'd be willing to trade- Would you be willing to force people to
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eat this instead of beef, like what the WEF is pushing right now? Um, I wouldn't say force,
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but I would definitely enforce people to do it because, like, it is, um, it's, like,
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like, it's not even that bad. It almost, like, tastes like a chip. Like, I don't know how to
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explain it. Like, you need to be open with these ideas because, like, as you said before, it's really
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going to, like, impact other generations. So, I feel like it's important to, like, enforce this and,
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like- Like, the vaccine, you should enforce it, but you should enforce it on people.
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Would you be willing to eat bugs for climate change? Uh, it depends on what kind of bugs. Like,
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I never, I never had bugs in the past. Um, well, you know what? Today, today's your lucky day because
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actually, we have bugs right here. If you want to try to taste them, we have some grasshoppers,
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if you want to see them. Uh, okay, I think it will, but I'm good. You're not, that's not,
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that's not good enough. Doesn't look appealing? Uh, no. So, soft, but not. Yeah.
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It's not bad. It's not bad. Would you be willing to change your whole diet for that?
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I don't know yet. I could try. Yeah. And do you feel people should be forced to eat those bugs?
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No, definitely not. You can even eat it. It's super easy to eat. You just
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croquet comme un popcorn, là? Non. Moi, déjà, je suis personne qui a un terrain allergique vraiment à bosser.
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Okay. Donc, moi, je vais pas comme ingérer beaucoup de trucs. Mais le problème, ce n'est pas vraiment
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dans les insectes, etc., etc. Non. Non, c'est eux. C'est les méchants, c'est les méchants producteurs d'huile,
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puis tout ça en Alberta, là. C'est eux qui n'arrêtent pas de produire, produire, produire,
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juste pour... Au lieu de le faire en Alberta, on devrait juste l'envoyer en Iran, puis en Irak, puis en Arabie
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ça va être seul. En Russie aussi, on produit des bois. Et même aussi, ce qu'ils font aussi, c'est qu'ils
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essaient de délocaliser leurs grandes entreprises, quoi, parce que dans ces grands pays, comme la main d'oeuvre
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est beaucoup plus cher. Donc, maintenant, ils vont aussi polluer l'environnement des petits pays, quoi,
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parce que la main d'oeuvre est beaucoup plus bon. So, there you have it, folks. Stop producing oil in
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Alberta. Please stop. Alberta, stop doing that. You're destroying the world. Manitoba, stop, please.
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And please give your money to Saudi Arabia, two Aramcoats people in Iran, Iraq, and Russia.
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That's the solution. Thank you. Thank you. So, there you go, folks. It seems like most people
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claim that they do care about so-called climate change, but they're not willing to do what
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Klaus Schwab wants them to do when it comes to being forced to eat bugs and put all of their meat and
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their beautiful, tasty, delicious steak aside. Very interesting to see that happening here
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at the Woke University of Ottawa. Thank you for watching.