EZRA LEVANT ｜ Face masks, lockdowns and no play-dates for his kids： what pushed David Freiheit to leave Canada
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A feature interview with David Freiheit, better known as Viva Fry, about his decision to leave his home country of Canada in order to fight for freedom in Florida, and his legal views on freedom in general.
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tonight you'll recognize him for his big hair and you'll love him for his legal views on freedom
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a feature interview with david freiheit better known as viva fry it's december 28th and this
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is the ezra levant show you know what during the darkest moments of the lockdown a lot of people
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said ezra why don't you leave why don't you go to florida land of the free home of the brave why
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don't you go somewhere where they're not locking us down and where soft creeping totalitarianism is
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not the new national identity and a lot of other freedom oriented people were especially people
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who had jobs that they could move with them obviously if you run a restaurant or a bar or
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an establishment you are stuck with that establishment if you're a miner in a coal mine you can't move the
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mine with you but these days in our information economy i mean a tv show i'm in front of a green
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screen i happen to be in toronto canada but really if i were in miami would you know the difference
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my answer then was i feel compelled to stay and fight i felt like the battle against the lockdowns
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was something i had a duty i felt like i had to be the last man going down with the ship but i should
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tell you that a number of our teammates who don't have a job description that requires them to be in
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this city or that city they chose to move to florida our accountant moved to florida i still talk to him
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on zoom and by phone all the time our social media boss he could do the job from anywhere in the world
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he was just sick of living particularly in montreal the city of curfews you might remember him yankee
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pollock he would go out in the streets filming the curfew and the police cracking down on anyone sick or
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healthy vaxxed or unvaccinated who dared to go out in the streets he had enough and he moved and he's
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happy about it well i stayed and fought but there was a great freedom oriented video blogger a vlogger
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if you will who i think painfully considered this issue because he has deep roots in canada he loves
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canada but how much does he have to suffer for that love and could he fight for freedom i mean he's a
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man who cares about the world beyond our borders as well and so i'm talking to one of my favorite
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canadians now and it hurts me but i understand why that i'm talking to him and he's in boca raton
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florida and part of the reasons it hurts me is because it's so bloody cold up here and it's warm down
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there let me introduce you to my friend david freiheit popularly known as viva fry great to see you
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i i can imagine someone who loved montreal like you're a very montreal guy and you can tell a
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montreal guy because he loves the city he loves the french and the english and the culture and the
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history and and its place and fashion and restaurants it must have hurt for you to come to
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the decision you had to leave yes i i love it some people think it's traitorous to leave your country
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first of all it's not permanent i'm on a specific type of visa which is a a finite visa that i can
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renew or i can decide to apply for permanent residence green card citizen status or whatever
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i i love canada it's not even it's not a i love everything about canada i have canadians geography
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the change of seasons but you know had i had no kids uh you know married with no kids i i would
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have stayed it would have been the inconvenience to me uh would have been bearable but what we've
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just lived through since 2020 and going forward in canada but in quebec in particular i've got three
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kids and it's not a normal way for kids to grow up it's it's oppressive it's abusive it's psychologically
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destructive if i had no kids i i would have stayed in canada you know no problem but when you see what
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this type of lifestyle does to a kid where they go into a building and get uh an evil eye for thinking
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that they're going to get in an elevator with another human being because children are vectors
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and and and to be feared at all costs when they go to a a second cup on green avenue and see people
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fighting with each other because they're standing too close to each other face masks lockdowns no
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play dates no sleepovers it's not a way that children are are supposed to be brought up and i'll
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reassess in a few years but uh in the interim couple all of that with federal bill c11 uh censoring the
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internet which might cripple my ability to do what i do couple that with bill c16 out of the province
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of quebec which removes eliminates parental supremacy from the youth protection act i mean you've got a
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government that locks you down uh abuses your children and then claims ownership over them
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i said at some point enough is enough uh we'll reassess and see if this if this i won't say sinking
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ship but if this uh ship of canada that's taking on water doesn't right itself within the next few years
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we'll reassess in three years yeah you know what even as i was talking about it i was thinking well
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should i have gone like i i hope i didn't sound critical in fact i was just trying to explain my
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own thinking is i i felt that rebel news i mean you talk about grand themes you talk a lot about the law
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you interview you i mean even when you were in canada you interviewed americans about american legal
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cases all the time montreal is so close to america geographically anyways and and i thought well why
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didn't i go because you're right it was the kids who were the most punished kids who you know lost
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years of of not just schooling but of so i mean you'll never if you were in grade 12 and your grade
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12 year was canceled you'll never get that back the the camaraderie the prom um maybe a school trip
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somewhere you will never get those moments back you can't redo your childhood and the depression
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and like it it was a war against children you're exactly i sent my kids and my missus down to florida
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for a bit just to get away from toronto during the darkest lockdown they were lonely they they came back
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up but you're right and the crazy thing is everyone who left the old country whether it was italy or
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russia or wherever your ancestors came from before they came to canada they would have said the same
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things you said they would have said it's for my children they would if they my great great
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grandfather came over from actually from ukraine in 1903 and he surely would have said i want my
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kids to have a better for your life it's crazy that probably hundreds of thousands of canadians
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left canada saying the same things that their grandparents said when they came here and as i'll
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just clarify i didn't take offense to what oh i know you didn't i wish i just realized i may have
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sounded prickly i didn't mean to sound prickly in fact there's a bit of jealousy in me uh because
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you are in a freer place you're in the freest place in north america it's people don't understand
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it's like when i when we started making the decision in my head it was when there was a vaccine passport
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and luckily my kid was 12 and didn't need this to play soccer to go to school plays but my wife took
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my kid to school when this vaccine passport was in effect in quebec and my kid was being asked to
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show papers to play soccer outdoors after school luckily she was 12 and didn't have to show the
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papers uh my mother my wife went to um uh the the school play and this kid's wearing face masks
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doing plays and she said this is this is this is delusional this is abusive and and then we're like
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okay well we have this we have the the luxury the freedom but also then the business opportunity came
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up with the work that i'm doing for rumble which is which is actually what brought me to florida in
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the first place rumble youtube's competitor which was you know based in canada as is now uh operating
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in the u.s and lo and behold i mean they needed a lawyer i'm a lawyer and things worked out well
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i didn't know you were affiliated with them you know i have a i should disclose i have a tiny teeny
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tiny steak i bought a tiny couple of shares of rumble uh it's actually the only stock i own um because
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i believed in i had the pleasure of meeting the guys you're right they were not not too far down the
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street from us here in toronto and i think business opportunities would have made him leave
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anyways because america is just the biggest market but but i tell you there was nothing
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holding them in canada it was just so tough to live a normal life the way you described it
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i think anyone who could get away did get away unfortunately most people that just wasn't an option
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you mentioned you got this gig with rumble that would probably help get a guy into the states tell me
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more about that because i love rumble we use it because i'm terrified of youtube censorship
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first of all rumble is the future i mean it's the future of of video hosting they don't just i mean
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chris pobloski the ceo this is not an ad for rumble and i'll give you a full disclosure i don't own any
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shares in rumble because when i uh when when they brought me on to review their their terms of service
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community guidelines to draft them as they would apply um i said if i buy stock it's gonna even if i buy
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for myself because i believe in the company it will look fishy and i'm just not even entering that
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realm of of perception um so i own no stock in them but i'm do we're working on drafting the terms
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of service i have an exclusive agreement with with rumble um you know they were based out of canada
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but it's becoming it's becoming impossible to to conceivably do business in canada and if bill c11
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passes it will be impossible for for rumble to operate in canada but the company is walking the
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walk and talking the talk when for example france says take down rt the way the canadian government
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is saying take down rt off of the platforms in canada rumble said no that's not how we do things
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and they said well we're going to ban you in in um in france and they said okay so be it i mean you're
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punishing your own citizens so the platform is as as good as as perfect can get in terms of um
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non-politically motivated censorship in terms of transparent rules community guidelines in terms of
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service that i had a hand in drafting crafting as we will continue to evolve over time and it's a
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company that i obviously believe in and it was just you know opportunity arose at the right time
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we had gotten to a point where i said i'm not i'm not going back to another five months of curfew
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in in quebec the kids aren't we're not having underground uh sleepovers like we're um committing
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some crime we're like the kids have to worry about being seen leaving their friends houses because we
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might have been breaking the rules it's it's inhumane unscientific unconstitutional abuse
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yeah um and you know knowing what i know now however moving is incredibly difficult incredibly
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costly and um you know i'm fortunate but i do feel a bit like i've abandoned canada but i i also think
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that having come down here allows me to be a lot more vocal about the madness going on in canada
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from bill c11 to can to quebec stuff and now to the euthanasia stuff in canada which um people
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outside of canada don't seem to be aware of and people inside of canada don't seem to be aware of
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and it should shock the conscience of anybody with a conscience yeah well it's very interesting and i i
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literally had no idea you were working with rumble um i mean i i've got my notes of here of things i
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was going to chat with you about the trucker convoy uh your law blog the state of canada and i'm
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fascinated that you hook up with rumble and let me just come back you you mentioned um that they
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were under great pressure to drop rt that's russia today that's one of the state broadcasters in the
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in putin's russia and it's obviously propaganda uh even more so i think than the cbc is trudeau
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propaganda um but still it's they're not breaking any laws it's another point of view and i'm curious
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occasionally to see what rt has to say about things because i actually want to know what putin's
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thinking what he's worried about what he's sensitive about you can you can sort of read
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i same reason i occasionally look at al jazeera or or erdogan state broadcaster trt it's it's a
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fascinating you have to sort of reverse engineer well why would they publish this like i i find it
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fascinating to see al jazeera attack fracking in canada what does al jazeera care about fracking
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can't well think about it they're owned by the government of qatar they don't like competitors for
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oil and gas so anyways back to rumble when france said when when when a lot of western powers like
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governments not just you know lobbyists or advocates said kick off rt from your platform
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here i'll put it on the screen here the statement from rumble was so bold and so no that's not how who
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we are we're just not going to do that i thought if you can resist sovereign countries and nato allies
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saying censor you've got cojones and that's when i knew rumble was for real because that must have
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been the most difficult decision they ever made what and not even from a financial perspective because
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i first of all i don't know any inside stuff so this is what i'm getting is from the news as well
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it's not even from a financial perspective it's not like uh you know france was the biggest market
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it's going to you know devastate them from uh rumble's perspective you know the issue is
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cutting off what's the population of france like 80 million people what's the population of france
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that sounds about right yeah 70 80 i mean you're cutting off access through your own decision and
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you feel a little guilty about that now there's vpns and there's other ways of getting around it but
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it was a question of principle that once you compromise politically uncensored uh free speech it's
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not free speech to run out saying the n-word it's just we're not making politically motivated
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decisions as to who gets hurt and who doesn't they're cutting off an entire nation and the people
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of that nation that that is the hard part not the not the financial aspect of it um but they set a
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standard and they and they and they you know didn't dig in their heels they just live by principles
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we're not doing it this is not how we do it and i mean more power to them it's why i think the
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company is walking the walk very exciting you know i just want to say one more rumble thing i i literally
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didn't know till this interview that you were working with them i'm thrilled i that moment
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where they didn't bend to a government request for censorship was a key moment for me and the second
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was the opposite moment it was when canter fitzgerald which is a major u.s hedge fund um actually they
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became famous in a very dark way when when their offices were devastated on 9-11 they were in one of
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the towers and they lost a tremendous amount of life but canter fitzgerald still exists it's a major u.s
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hedge fund and i tell you that because they don't care about left wing or right wing they care about
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money and when they made a 400 million dollar investment in rumble i thought these guys this
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is not a passion project this is not out of love or friendship they really think that this is a goer
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they think this is a real competitor and and that what rumble is doing is commercially valuable having
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a free speech place is a winner in the market i thought that's proof because that's not just guys like
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you and me who go with our heart that's absolutely cold-blooded capitalists on wall street going with
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their pocketbooks so that was an exciting moment for me well and and you know people were fearing that
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you know if rumble goes public they're going to be beholden to shareholders and they're going to go
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the same way of youtube when people say we're going to pull advertising if you don't censor certain
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accounts um i i was i won't say i was critical of rumble but we were uh i was very transparent in my
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opinion of rumble where robert barnes and i during our weekly streams before uh any business
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relationship with rumble we said that's not necessarily so much of a risk because a company
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that goes to you know goes to shareholders to say we're going to be the politically neutral
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uh version of youtube we're not going to censor and they go public and that's the warranties and
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representations they make to their shareholders if they violate that they expose themselves so you
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know they they go public they're sticking to their principles they also own they merged with
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locals so they have this other you know the the facebook behind a paywall it's just it is and
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they're expanding and they want to you know they want to get involved in other platforms as well
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it's it's it's a phenomenal thing they i got to know chris pavlosky through the vlogs i was doing
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covering lawsuits involving rumble versus google and then you know the organic relationship blossomed into
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the business relationship it has and lo and behold i i came down to florida for a few years so
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it's fun but i do miss the changing of the seasons i it's i don't know what month this is i i walk
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outside and it's sunny and hot every day of the week i miss winter i miss ice fishing i miss mountains
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i miss cold rivers um but you know seeing kids live a normal life for kids um you know i say makes it
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worth it sounds like a cliche it's a necessity well and you know it's interesting so many people i think
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about half million people a year have been moving to florida i think that actually may be one reason
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not just why ronda sandus had a 19 margin of victory i think the largest ever for the republicans in
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florida at least since reconstruction time but um i think it's also a reason why some other states
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the republicans underperformed because every freedom oriented person who cared about the lockdowns
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well you put a million of them in florida you're taking a million votes away from new york and and
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other sort of like new york came fairly close to electing a republican governor the closest in
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decades actually but i think that all the new york republican voters now down in florida as it's it's a joke
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in florida that everybody's from new york i mean i think it's the same joke in texas everyone's from
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california yeah it's a joke i i jersey new york you can hear the accent well i bet there's a lot of
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other canadians too i mean just again our own company we've got two people who left for florida
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and that's fine i i bet there's a lot of people who could move did move there's a lot of i see the
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snowbirds now but uh look the amazing thing from what i understood about florida is that you know
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the the uh the rental trucks were coming in from california from across country but not going back
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uh it's people vote with their feet they vote with their dollar they vote with their vote at the
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end of the day and you know florida's growing and it's it's just an amazing thing to see what's going
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on in florida compared to what i see now going on in canada you got kieran moore in ontario talking
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about bringing back mask mandates it's like it's it's actual einstein insanity of these alleged experts
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doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results and at this point like i've gone
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maybe a little bit too cynical i just think it's about control it's about dominating a country
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dominating a people getting them to be perpetually fearful and uh you know subservient to the government
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you know we've spent uh i've enjoyed the last 20 minutes for our conversation with i should tell you
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i've gotten to literally nothing on my on my list here because it's so interesting both the move to
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florida and rumble which was news to me but i want to talk to you about what i think
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and i i don't think there's any doubt about it was the news story of 2022 in canada namely the
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trucker convoy it it was riveting the whole world was fascinated by canada which is not a sentence you
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hear very often um canada was a leader for freedom around the world again that's something you don't
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hear very often it was so clearly organic and authentic no political party backed them i mean
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maxime bernier was was supportive but but his party is very small and had no representation in
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parliament there was no funding in fact they cut off almost 20 million dollars worth of funding to
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it it was the the government and the advocacy group starved it of funding and yet it happened
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and it immediately had effects on the conservative movement it toppled jason kenney it toppled erin
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o'toole and improved both those party stances on freedom it actually broke the fever that people
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thought oh everyone's in this together uh i thought i was the only one against it like there was this
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false unanimity the truckers broke that they ended some of the vaccine mandates very shortly thereafter
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it forced justin trudeau to overplay his hand and led to the commission of inquiry there is no doubt
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about it in my mind that trucker convoy was not only the most important news story the most important
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political story it was actually the best thing to happen for freedom in canada in decades that's what
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i think about it now i was only there for a few days now our team was there longer but you were there
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you were live streaming tell me about your time there so this is it's an amazing thing you live
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through it and you understand it so much better in retrospect i'm doing my viva on the streets when
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we were i'm pretty sure we were under curfew at this time in quebec and i'm this is year two of
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the curfew last year in 2021 it was five months plus this year was a little over a month
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and i'm doing viva on the streets walking up and down green avenue with my dog because i'm allowed
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out of the house with a dog after curfew because science and people in my in the chat people in the
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comments are saying viva why aren't you paying attention to the convoy and i'm like what convoy
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because i'm in the i'm not in the news i'm i'm immersed in the news and i see nothing about it right
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and then i start googling it and i see okay there's a a convoy protesting road conditions in british
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columbia it's like what's the big deal guys it's like no there's it's cross-country the media is
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covering or downplaying it ignoring it and i lived through this progression where they were
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1000 right this convoy was brewing they knew it people involved in the convoy knew it the media
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was deliberately ignoring it at first then misdirecting to this convoy protesting road
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conditions in british columbia then it got so big they couldn't ignore it and they got right into
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demonizing it racist extremist truckers on their way to ottawa and i remember i was in florida for a
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project veritas event the weekend it first went down and everyone's like everyone says viva you
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got to get down here and see what's going on you won't believe what it's like in reality compared
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to the media because that first weekend cbc all these dishonest politicians you know uh referencing
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that nazi flag the uh the the confederate flag and it was like viva you got to get down and see
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what's going on because it's not what you see in the media and it's like okay we're gonna do it
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i'm going down it's it's a new thing for me people have been doing it but i'm gonna live stream and if
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i see nazi flags and if i see confederate flags and if i see violence misogyny extremism everyone
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else is going to see it in real time i'm not there to protect anybody i'm not there to filter anything
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and day one i'm like i i see this i was like holy cow i i heard there were nazi flags confederate
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flags people were defecating on the war memorial i get down there there are veterans shoveling the snow
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off the steps of the war memorial it's the happiest most boisterous uh i wouldn't even
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call it a protest because it didn't feel like it felt like a festival felt like a festival i i and
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at first i was reluctant to give hugs and this and that and then like day one i was like this is this
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is madness people need to see what's going on and then i just stayed there i kept on going back i was
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driving what is it like 400 kilometers a day uh because i didn't i don't like sleeping away from the
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family so i i drove it in the morning live streamed all day went back did it like for 14 days
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and i saw the progression from day one to the violent suppression of this protest had no idea
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what it was going to turn into you know day one few thousand people watching live day two more at
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one point we were over 50 000 people watching live wow um on youtube alone and some of these live
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streams which are six hours long half a million views and the world or at least those who are
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watching saw it and they saw the degree to which we are being actively lied to by canadian media how
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the media was weaponizing children they accused the protesters of using children as human shields
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they were using children as political tools as as as weaponizing children to say if you don't get
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out of here we're going to take your kids we saw what the media did and then we saw what the government
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did and as you said it was it was the most invigorating encouraging thing that you'd ever seen
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it was for me too and i said depending on how this ends it's either going to end the way it should
00:24:07.540
or it's going to end with a boot to the neck and it's going to be a crushing suppression of the most
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organic beautiful peace-loving tolerant protest you've ever seen and it was a boot to the neck and i
00:24:18.620
would be lying if i said i i'm not deeply deeply angry and and maybe jaded as a result of how it ended
00:24:25.680
we'll see if part two with this commission ends properly with a an admonishment of justin trudeau i'm
00:24:31.440
now not so confident that's even going to happen yeah i we'll see in the end it's not over yet but
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we're going to see if the bad guys win you know uh i don't know if the admonishment from that judge
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will happen i i think that the judge did a pretty good job given the the restrictions on the time
00:24:47.580
limits um the the government uh stonewalling delaying the release of things but let's say he
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does admonish the government that's the part that scares me because i think there's going to be a
00:24:59.460
collective shrug and you're going to see the regime media who are all on the payroll and we saw during
00:25:06.080
the commission of inquiry how the government was uh massaging and developing fake stories like about
00:25:12.580
racism and this is our january 6 insurrection i think you're going to see the regime media say ha it
00:25:18.300
was a big nothing burger everything's fine and trudeau will just put on his sexiest voice and say
00:25:23.680
well we made the decisions at the time in good faith and like he'll just like like the five times he's
00:25:29.020
been convicted or however many under the conflict of interest act act he doesn't care well he'll
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just skate even if he's condemned he'll skate twice convicted thrice accused i don't know that well
00:25:40.280
that's but that will be the that will be the end of a lot of things in my view if if it turns into
00:25:45.420
a nothing burger or worse uh as well because i i thought the judge did a great job during the six
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weeks right um i started listening to that commission when they were going on the policy discussions
00:25:55.540
the week after and then i started getting terrified i'm like holy holy crap they're actually
00:26:00.560
entertaining ideas of taking lists of protesters who are there and then if they don't leave freezing
00:26:06.820
bank accounts as policy as practice they're actually entertaining the idea that this was domestic
00:26:12.760
terrorism they're they're entertaining notions which should be offensive to anybody who has the
00:26:18.000
slightest degree of knowledge of what happened and the other proverbial black pill for me in all this is
00:26:23.360
i know a lot of decent intelligent educated canadians who are on board with what happened
00:26:29.480
it's like yeah well they shouldn't have done it oh yeah you know go ahead oh so you know it's it's it's
00:26:35.280
it's deeply deeply discouraging uh where you there's a big portion of canadian people who love freedom
00:26:41.680
and and just love leave me alone and there's a great portion of canadians who say how many times do i
00:26:47.780
need to vaccinate my kids before they can get their freedom back yeah you know in our boardroom here
00:26:53.160
we have on the wall a picture you you probably know the one it's a a sea of people seek heiling
00:26:59.460
hitler and then there's one guy with his arms crossed in front of his chest his name is august
00:27:03.540
landmesser and he was angry because he he had a jewish fiancee and he was barred from marrying her
00:27:09.940
i've tried to learn a little bit about august landmesser i don't think he ended
00:27:13.760
well both him and his his wife of course died um she was killed in a concentration camp but he was
00:27:19.780
sent in a penal battalion and and died on the battlefield but that picture is very famous at
00:27:25.060
least in social media with the implication be this guy and i think so many canadians think that would
00:27:32.440
be me i would be the one guy standing up for freedom i would be the one guy pointing to the mob
00:27:38.720
and saying you're wrong and i know you can be wrong even if i'm all alone saying it but i think
00:27:43.840
the country failed that test and we saw what people would have been like because the conformity
00:27:50.140
and not just the conformity but the active participation you talked earlier about you know
00:27:57.040
in stores people would take it upon themselves to be mask enforcers to be social distancing enforcers
00:28:03.260
maybe it was out of fear or out of i need to do the right thing or maybe this magic ritual will save
00:28:08.920
me from this magic death but people not only didn't stand for freedom they were happy to rat out their
00:28:17.180
neighbors and and to and to hold themselves as more virtuous for it our country failed that test not
00:28:24.420
everyone but the country as a whole failed the test at wicked speed ezra it was it was shocking i mean
00:28:32.600
when we when we put in the vaccine passports in quebec and i have to be very sensitive about the
00:28:38.200
fact that it's very easy for me to get angry at an employee doing just following orders because they
00:28:42.540
don't want to lose their job but they were they were very eager to do it you know in in alexis neon
00:28:48.340
food court in an open space asking for your passport to sit down so you can eat in the food court
00:28:53.400
asking for vaccine passports to get into the canadian tire in the basement and and lo and behold the
00:28:58.680
people that were being excluded disproportionately tended to be of a certain race which were
00:29:03.060
statistically under vaccinated less likely to have gotten vaccinated i went to a walmart on on to carry
00:29:09.280
and i i wanted to be a pain in the ass and i said i'm not putting on a mask i'm going to the pharmacy
00:29:14.060
and then the manager came and escorted me from the door to the pharmacy so i could get whatever i needed
00:29:20.120
i didn't need to get anything i bought a bottle of rubbing alcohol and then and then escorted me out
00:29:24.340
and it it became in canada very quickly that it became virtuous and brave to follow the government
00:29:31.940
orders it became virtuous and courageous to defer all critical thought to so-called experts even if
00:29:39.380
they were wrong consistently and even if they were visibly delusional dina hinshaw who lied about the
00:29:46.880
14 year old boy dying of covid dina hinshaw who who got up there disinfecting her hands taking a mask
00:29:53.640
off her face like she's carrying the plague these were the people that people thought it was virtuous
00:29:58.960
and intelligent to defer to and it became extremely discouraging to me i i've i won't say i've lost a
00:30:06.100
lot of friends i never had that many friends in the first place but i've seen people that i know who
00:30:09.680
should be smarter just basically surrender critical thought in the hopes that the ritual will save them
00:30:16.060
or that they'll get their rights back quicker if they do you know in in the book 1984 by george
00:30:20.840
orwell winston smith's job it's a strange job this was in the before the internet times it was to
00:30:27.480
cut out newspaper articles from the archives and glue in or or replace it with revised versions of
00:30:35.360
what happened in the past so they were constantly changing who which countries were at war with each
00:30:41.680
other what big brother said and that was winston's job is so you could never even know the past who
00:30:47.640
controlled the past controlled the the present i think was one of their slogans yeah um that's how
00:30:53.980
it was with the rules oh don't wear a mask oh do wear a mask oh like i mean and the thing is they
00:31:00.900
didn't even have to delete what they said before people willingly said oh no we've always had to wear
00:31:07.460
a mask uh don't you know it never prevent we never said it would prevent transmission that's the one
00:31:13.220
that i mean it blows my mind because people are just turning into useful idiots it we never said
00:31:19.960
it would prevent transmission i've got a tweet from albert burla april 1st 2021 100 effective in
00:31:26.580
preventing cases in south africa in our study and then you get people saying oh he meant cases of
00:31:31.960
hospitalization from severe covid or it doesn't prevent you getting uh coronavirus but it prevents you from
00:31:38.600
getting uh serious um uh side effects no you and people have convinced themselves they never lied to
00:31:46.800
us in the first place because it makes it easier for them to live with the fact that they've been
00:31:49.600
deceived but you know two weeks to flatten the curve it's only after the last two and a half years of
00:31:55.000
actually you know interviewing people who i know are smarter than me where they one person said how is
00:31:59.700
it two weeks to flatten the curve if you don't know what your start date is i i i was going back through
00:32:04.180
my twitter timeline just to see when i started getting wise to the madness it was when they
00:32:08.600
locked the outdoor dog run and i was like yeah oh i'm no i don't need to be a doctor to know that
00:32:14.300
this is idiotic period yeah incredible uh and no one knows where the six foot thing came from uh
00:32:20.800
arbitrary arbitrary in some in some countries it was one meter in others it was and and to have people
00:32:27.060
with measuring tapes oh it's just it's five foot six inches like there was a uh some inspector in a
00:32:32.840
barbershop literally with measuring tape between chairs as if you know if you sit in a restaurant
00:32:39.780
you don't need a mask you stand up though you need a mask i mean the whole curfew idea crazy hey listen
00:32:45.000
i want to ask you one last thing you've been very generous with your time and um i appreciate your
00:32:49.880
points of view but you sound like you're fairly engrossed with c11 which is the name of a bill
00:32:56.060
the government to regulate the internet and there's there's other companion legislation c18 i think that's
00:33:02.020
called the online streaming online streaming act and then there's an online news act and then there
00:33:06.000
was another uh law called bill c36 that i don't think has been reintroduced yet if i'm adding that
00:33:13.080
upright i think there's actually four bills each of which has some degree of censorship in them
00:33:18.200
and by the way i don't think justin trudeau has four bills in parliament about inflation
00:33:23.000
or about um you know the housing prices or about the war in ukraine i think i think he's obsessed with
00:33:32.060
regulating the internet obsessed with censorship especially of guys like you and rebel news and
00:33:37.900
others who are alternative media especially because of the trucker convoy by the way i mean you just
00:33:43.860
showed us you would have a half a million viewers on a live stream that by some standards was sort of
00:33:49.860
boring you were walking around just showing things but people go ahead i know i can make i can make
00:33:56.840
things exciting i can make you know paint drying exciting this it was exciting but it was long and
00:34:02.020
there's no question it exposed something that media and the government did not want exposed w5 goes out
00:34:08.180
and runs a hit piece on me and their biggest critique of me is that i provide information without a filter
00:34:13.240
that's what you should be doing yeah that's your job that's what the word media actually means
00:34:18.660
media actually means you you you're you're the middle you pass things through you're not a
00:34:23.500
blockage you're a passage i never thought about that that's actually very good but oh just to add
00:34:28.980
to your you know he's obsessed with censorship trudeau's obsessed with two things disarming and
00:34:33.900
censorship yeah and it's one can connect those dots if one is so inclined yeah but the the disarming a
00:34:40.440
populace making them live in perpetual fear of each other of unknowns of of a virus that if you stand up
00:34:46.840
it'll get you um and then to go to censorship so that you don't have access to the rebel news to the
00:34:54.380
true north to the viva fries i i it's not it's not an accident but uh someone can accuse me of being
00:35:00.960
conspiratorial for trying to connect the dots of government trying to disarm suppress censor and
00:35:06.700
control an entire population c11 i i read it i know it's been through debates and there may be some
00:35:13.920
amendments to it i should probably freshen up my understanding of it it may have some amendments
00:35:18.060
since i read it last i see that as the gateway for government regulation of the internet i see it as
00:35:25.420
the starting pistol i there are some provisions in it that are concerning to me but the most concerning
00:35:31.360
thing is that what it permits to come later including c18 c36 etc and they haven't yet introduced
00:35:38.300
what they brainstormed two years ago called the online harms which so they've got so many things
00:35:45.300
waiting in the wings why don't you tell me in plain language for our viewers the two or three worst
00:35:52.780
things that you think will happen if these if c11 and other censorship bills become law now and all
00:36:00.840
it my understanding is based on reading other people's opinions as well c c11 is the what is the word
00:36:07.360
for what comes after it's the predecessor to c10 which which died in the last legislative session
00:36:12.040
um the biggest things it's going to regulate online accounts individual social media accounts if
00:36:20.580
they're big enough and subject them to the criteria of the canada broadcast act in terms of canadian
00:36:26.040
content requirements can con requirements financial obligations financial penalties um it's going to
00:36:31.520
require platforms like youtube to potentially downgrade upgrade suppress exposure i mean what
00:36:39.040
we've seen with the twitter censorship it's going to do it as a matter of policy for canadian content
00:36:42.860
to ensure that the platforms that carry the content are in compliance with this law it's nothing
00:36:48.020
it's nothing shy of trying to give the leg back up to legacy media which had this monopoly on radio and
00:36:56.260
television but lost their monopoly to gatekeeping because of the internet it is nothing but a
00:37:01.500
disguised attempt to re-establish state captured media as the gatekeepers to the internet i don't
00:37:07.900
know what the impact would be on individual my content i don't know if it's mostly canadian but
00:37:12.860
in as much as i was a canadian content creator i would presume most of it is what should be deemed
00:37:17.000
canadian content but the way these things are weaponized yeah it's it's undoubtedly i joked at the
00:37:22.320
time that it should have been called the rebel news bill because it's it is an attempt to penalize
00:37:26.960
independent uh not content creators independent news outlets to to give that that that advantage back
00:37:34.880
to captured legacy media uh and the fact that they lied and they did they lied gilbo the minister of
00:37:41.600
heritage i think he is lied when they said it's not going to go after your social media accounts that's
00:37:48.640
why we're including this specific amendment that excludes social media accounts which in the dead
00:37:53.520
of night they remove and then they admit yeah it's it's not going to go after individual accounts
00:37:57.340
unless you're big enough acting like a broadcaster and you say like well what does that mean i don't
00:38:01.780
don't worry don't worry we're not interested in that but they're interested in that yeah um it's it's
00:38:06.100
just it's the it is the last level of censorship that will effectively uh prohibit it'll it'll make
00:38:12.600
impossible independent concrete content creators to make content in canada and which will result in
00:38:18.780
them either leaving which would be the win for the government changing business which would be the win
00:38:24.300
for the government and the government's going to suppress what canadians can see that comes in from
00:38:27.940
abroad it's it's trudeau is turning canada into china in real time and too many people don't appreciate
00:38:34.200
it well i might just join you yet in boca raton you know i'm you jokingly called it the rebel news
00:38:42.980
law but it it really is i remember when we named our company part of rebel was uh part of the word
00:38:51.080
rebel was to rebel against the the ideology of the of the dominant media part was to rebel against the
00:38:57.540
technology the expensive cameras the expensive studios but part of it was to rebel against the
00:39:03.200
regulatory authority which i believe is what killed sun news network i mean they had they spent 40 50
00:39:08.420
million bucks they didn't they weren't short of money but they had regulatory problems with the
00:39:12.400
crtc so part of rebel news what were we rebelling against the the fact that the man could decide and
00:39:19.060
we've had eight great years we turn eight years old in february and i truly think it's taken eight years
00:39:25.100
for the uh regulatory state to say hey it's not just rebel news out there look at this entire
00:39:31.300
thriving world and they're not listening to us and how dare viva fry get half a million views of
00:39:38.460
what's really going on we want them to google trucker convoy and get something about road conditions
00:39:43.960
and so i think they're coming to kill the internet i there's no doubt in my mind that they want to
00:39:50.880
kill it or just take it over which will be the same thing as killing it you know it when when cbc was
00:39:57.040
saying protesters were dancing on the war memorial and and and peeing and pooping on it and then i
00:40:02.020
get there and i do a 360 live and there might have been coffee which someone might have thought was
00:40:07.060
urine when they said the protesters were defiling the terry fox memorial and i go there and do the
00:40:11.640
360 and the defiling consists of a canadian flag in terry fox's hand i think terry fox would have been
00:40:17.180
very proud of that yeah i mean when you have zot i mean i don't you know if you know who zot was
00:40:22.900
another another walking talking live streamer of the of the convoy uh you ottawa scotty uh travel
00:40:28.800
fund 69 you had i'm saying nobody's not in in a derogatory demeaning sense but people unknown to the
00:40:36.240
media crushing the media yeah in real time because they were doing nothing more than democratizing the
00:40:42.640
access to information and that is what the canadian media is absolutely not about they want the monopoly
00:40:48.240
they want the they want the framing they want they want to tell you what to think instead of giving
00:40:53.040
the information so that you can come to your own conclusions wow well listen it's great to catch up
00:40:58.440
with you thank you for all this tell our viewers again i think a lot of our viewers know you but just
00:41:02.720
for those who don't what are the best ways and best places for people to get their viva fry fix
00:41:07.860
well if you want angry viva fry it's twitter at the viva fry the viva fry is taken by another
00:41:14.460
account but the viva fry on twitter rumble youtube viva fry uh on this platform where i work with robert
00:41:21.540
barnes viva barnes law dot locals dot com that's on locals um and that's basically it but google you
00:41:27.900
google viva fry you're gonna find some stories on the internet you'll you'll find some stories and some
00:41:33.220
some tweets that have made their ways into uh recent articles but those are the best places to
00:41:38.400
find me well that's great we'll put links to those underneath this video for folks to who want to go
00:41:42.660
deeper great to see you thanks very much for doing this i'm sort of jealous that you're down there and
00:41:48.260
god forbid things really go the way that they look like they're going we might just be refugees
00:41:52.700
down with you too so take care my friend and thanks for today and and all the best in 2023 may it be a
00:41:59.740
year of freedom absolutely thank you very much as well all right there you have it viva fry also
00:42:05.260
known as david fry height that's our show for today until next time on behalf of all of us here at rebel
00:42:11.520
world headquarters to you at home good night and keep fighting for freedom