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00:00:00.000 tonight i finally did it my sit-down interview one-on-one with here builders the winner of the

00:00:20.760 dutch parliamentary elections it's november 30th and this is the ezra levant show

00:00:25.300 shame on you you sensorious bug

00:00:31.720 oh hi there ezra levant here again uh we landed in amsterdam we drove down to the hague which is the

00:00:47.140 capital city of the netherlands and i'm standing in front of a building called the tweed kammer

00:00:53.080 which is a dutch way of saying the second house the second chamber this is their parliament this is

00:00:57.740 where here builders has been a member of parliament for years toiling away in obscurity and frankly

00:01:04.960 i i never thought in a million years he would actually win the dutch elections and i'm not sure

00:01:12.540 if he thought he would too obviously he hoped he would and he was working for that result

00:01:16.140 but it was like a thunderclap and he even even he seemed surprised by the massive result

00:01:22.160 look at this short video he tweeted on election night i think he was truly startled by the results

00:01:28.860 take a look

00:01:29.800 well the thing is because of their electoral system i think it's a kind of proportional representation

00:01:40.320 there are a ton of little parties here it's not like our canadian first past the post system

00:01:46.400 it really weeds out small parties like the green party or the people's party here every faction has

00:01:54.020 its representation so the idea of one party getting an absolute majority in the tweed kammer

00:02:00.660 is extremely unlikely now here builders has by far the largest party but he needs to make a coalition

00:02:07.440 with other parties we're going to see here builders tonight we're staying at a hotel right across from

00:02:14.020 a restaurant where he's having a meeting with people who are against open borders migration or

00:02:19.240 asylum seekers as they're called here i'm going to talk to him i'm going to catch up with him i haven't

00:02:23.520 talked to him in a few years since i interviewed him here in the tweed kammer it's an interesting

00:02:28.380 building it's a unusual architecture it is extremely high security even coming here you can see these

00:02:35.360 enormous steel barriers there's a there's a police vehicle here uh i know that because i was in there

00:02:44.040 and and there was a security threat to here builders when i was here last time and he was in a special

00:02:51.680 room that was guarded the man lives under 24 7 guards in fact we were at the hotel we put our stuff that

00:03:01.840 we're only in the netherlands for 25 hours if you can believe it it's a real whistle stop tour so we

00:03:06.880 put our stuff in the hotel out a quick shower because the night flight uh we scoped out the

00:03:11.920 restaurant where the meeting's gonna meet and then we came down here to the tweed kammer even as we were

00:03:16.100 leaving the hotel it dawned on me there was an enormous number of security there and they and it's not a

00:03:22.160 fancy hotel it's a it's a fairly rundown hotel actually but all these security i said what's this

00:03:28.580 security for they asked for our room key they were there securing the venue because here builders is

00:03:34.200 coming and then as we were leaving a bunch of police arrived and we're liaising with the security

00:03:38.740 and it reminded me that here builders moves with about 10 special secret service cops at all times

00:03:46.900 and think about that they probably have three shifts a day right so and then and then they have

00:03:52.760 replacements and people on vacation you have command centers and you have advanced teams like we saw

00:03:57.400 there today there's got to be 50 people working full-time just protecting here builders from death

00:04:05.320 threats and it's not an idle thing i don't know if you know the name uh teo van gogh uh it's pronounced

00:04:12.760 slightly different with the proper dutch pronunciation i'm not going to try uh he was i think the great

00:04:17.860 grandson or a descendant of vincent van gogh the famous dutch painter and artist he was a filmmaker

00:04:24.460 who with ayan hersey ali made a film criticizing the role of women in islam the movie was called

00:04:32.280 submission he was murdered he was assassinated and ayan hersey ali who was born in somalia

00:04:40.420 rebelled against islam came to holland actually sat in parliament and take a look at some of these guys

00:04:47.860 just walking by and then there's some more armed police over there sorry i was just mid-story but

00:04:56.640 would you agree with me this is a heavily armed uh heavily guarded area anyway back to the story about

00:05:02.960 tail van gogh assassinated and ayan hersey ali who was an mp here as well eventually left the country

00:05:10.680 in large part because of security threats that's not the only one there was a politician here in the

00:05:17.460 netherlands named pimfort town and he was he would describe himself as flamboyantly gay he would drive

00:05:25.680 around in the limousine with a little lapdog and he was very very gay that was part of his political

00:05:31.060 identity and that's what made him critical of islam because one of the core tenets of islam is sexual

00:05:37.380 modesty obviously homosexuality is punishable by death and there's other issues as well like women

00:05:43.540 having to be covered women not being able to go out without a guardian or a husband or a father

00:05:49.380 and and so pimfort town was assassinated tail van gogh was assassinated and so now here builders himself

00:05:57.060 has a serious retinue of bodyguards at all times and like i say when i was visiting here years ago

00:06:04.800 there was a security threat apparently one of his bodyguards tipped off someone about his planned

00:06:10.600 whereabouts and that put the whole place under lockdown my interview with him was almost canceled

00:06:15.220 and we have to have it in a high security room that's what life is like when you criticize islam

00:06:21.240 and it's one of the reasons why across the west people are afraid i think back a few days ago when

00:06:27.020 tommy robinson in the united kingdom was arrested by police just for being there he was there at the

00:06:33.980 anti the march against anti-semitism in the streets of london and the police just picked him up and

00:06:38.700 carted him off and pepper sprayed him in the face for good measure and they did that because they

00:06:43.420 knew there would not be riots they knew there would not be bombings whereas people who walk the streets

00:06:49.420 of london with extremely anti-semitic jihadist comments the police don't dare touch them because

00:06:55.560 they they know there would quite likely be a violent reaction so the actual fear of murder is very real

00:07:02.840 and i think far more pervasive especially in places like canada is the fear of being called

00:07:09.020 racist itself i've told you before about the city of rotherham in the united kingdom city of about a

00:07:15.000 quarter million people where 1400 young women were raped in a city of 250 000 1400 were raped and not

00:07:24.040 just once they were raped again and again by what are called rape gangs or grooming gangs and this was

00:07:30.340 over a course of years and this was almost immediately known to people in rotherham to

00:07:36.500 social workers to police to emergency rooms in the hospitals to parents to the media to politicians but

00:07:43.380 everyone kept it a secret no one talked about it because everyone was afraid of being called racist and

00:07:50.260 again that's not my theory there was a commission of inquiry into how did how did 1400 girls get raped

00:07:57.380 in a town the size of rotherham and again and again everyone said they were afraid of being called

00:08:04.180 racist if they spoke out about him so imagine the fear of being called racist plus the fear of

00:08:10.820 actually being assassinated here builders has stood up to both of those fears for really two decades

00:08:16.980 um in constant physical danger and obviously politically denounced he was prosecuted

00:08:23.140 by the dutch prosecutors he was charged with crimes for insulting islam in the end he appealed and won those

00:08:32.020 but not before going through years of persecution at the hands of the government a government that he

00:08:39.940 now is poised to lead if he can because that's one of the most interesting things about the netherlands

00:08:47.860 is until recently it was governed by a absolute role model world economic forum young leader mark

00:08:55.220 ruta sort of like um justin trudeau in canada sort of like leo varadkar in ireland just the total globalist

00:09:02.820 global warming enthusiast feminist um anti-industrialist open borders extremist for the netherlands to go from

00:09:11.220 mark ruta to hurt builders is whiplash and it's not just whiplash so much turns on him and that's why

00:09:20.740 the political establishment would do anything it can to deny hurt builders his electoral win it's one

00:09:26.580 of the things i want to talk to him about tonight when hopefully we see him at that restaurant we scoped

00:09:31.140 out earlier in the day hey i just want to practice my dutch with you one time i we're in an interesting

00:09:36.580 place downtown you can see the national bibliotheque i'm pronouncing that wrong of course you surely

00:09:43.860 can guess that means the national library um it's celebrating 225 years these things are easy to read

00:09:50.660 there's the kinder book and museum my guess is that means the uh the kids the museum of children's books

00:09:56.980 and there's a literature museum do you see that up there and then there's a word i've been practicing over and

00:10:02.340 over and over again because you do not want to say this wrong the netherlands institute for

00:10:08.180 kunstgeschiedenis my friends you do not want to mispronounce that word all right i'll come back to

00:10:14.900 you uh with more from the heart of the netherlands here in the hague

00:10:27.620 oh hi everybody i know i'm looking a little bit scruffy i confess that we've actually been

00:10:36.420 trapped at the amsterdam amsterdam airport for 24 hours it's a it's not a bad airport to be stuck in

00:10:43.540 for 24 hours but frankly no airport is a good place to be stuck in for 24 hours but it was worth it

00:10:50.020 the reason we were stuck is a series of delays that happened because we jammed in a one-on-one

00:10:56.740 interview with clear builders the new uh winner of the dutch parliamentary elections a week ago

00:11:02.420 as you know i bumped into him at an event in the hague when he was attending a talent hall meeting

00:11:08.980 against asylum seekers that's what they call migrants here i talked to him for only about a

00:11:14.580 minute or so in that outdoors scrum where there were a ton of well-wishers and other journalists

00:11:21.300 but afterwards i connected with his press secretary to arrange something more formal just a reminder

00:11:27.060 here's how that two-minute scrum went it was exciting to see him again you remember he says

00:11:31.780 i've known you for years he recognized me i had been um talking to him by twitter direct message

00:11:37.620 so he he was sort of surprised to see me there but not totally surprised here's that scrum just for one

00:11:43.300 minute what's your message to supporters in canada the united states and places like that jeff

00:11:48.180 encouraging words for them yes of course we had a fantastic result of the elections we were by far

00:11:54.900 the biggest winner and party in the netherlands today which proves that um it is possible you

00:12:00.820 know we know each other for quite some time and um it is a tough fight it is a long fight you need to

00:12:07.060 have some perseverance and um everybody tries to work against you in a way but at the end of the day

00:12:13.780 and if you keep on trying and and and talking about the right issues like asylum immigration

00:12:20.340 national sovereignty and and people will respond to it and they did

00:12:32.900 so that's that's actually the the the positive message i have uh today it's possible everything is

00:12:38.420 possible have you received support from leaders in other countries yes of course i did from many

00:12:44.100 countries leaders from parliament ministers and even some presidents and so so i got some some

00:12:51.700 support and people were very happy sometimes surprised and it was a shock not only in holland

00:12:57.620 but certainly and the rest of the european union as well and i think that's good you know it's not the

00:13:02.020 elite who decides everything and all the way until the end of time we can change reality we can we can

00:13:08.900 fight for freedom and we can we can win this is the message we can win and i hope i i gave some some

00:13:15.780 some incentives to others to continue to struggle because everybody can do it as long as you keep on

00:13:20.100 trying thank you for your time i mean that was exciting and it was good to get those basic questions

00:13:26.260 answered but those weren't particularly deep questions or deep answers but i was able to secure

00:13:32.660 a one-on-one meeting in the trade cover which means second chamber that's their parliament buildings the

00:13:39.380 next morning now he's so busy with his coalition negotiations and press and and he really is the

00:13:46.900 leading man in the netherlands these days so we were only allotted i think it was 17 minutes but i feel

00:13:54.660 like i managed to cover a lot of ground and that you know me when i interview people sometimes i tend

00:14:00.980 to say blah blah blah blah blah blah blah don't you think that's not a real way of interviewing someone

00:14:06.580 i had to restrain myself to get maximum words from him he's the newsmaker but i did have certain issues

00:14:13.140 in mind anyways without further ado here is my 17-minute interview with here builders the leader of the party

00:14:21.380 for freedom the winner of last week's parliamentary elections here in the netherlands

00:14:30.900 first of all congratulations you looked genuinely surprised by uh the result yes i i was not in a way

00:14:38.500 that we um won some parliamentary seats but you know i hoped and i predicted that if we went from 17

00:14:45.620 to 25 we would have an excellent result but it was not 25 or 37 you know one out of four dutchmen voted

00:14:51.540 for my party which was an earthquake and a dutch and maybe also european politics so so so of course

00:14:59.300 i'm i'm very pleased and grateful to all those dutch uh citizens and voters almost two and a half million

00:15:05.380 people who um dutchman who votes for my party and that's that's an enormous compliment now it looks like

00:15:11.380 uh there are a number of other parties whose voters tell pollsters they want them to form a coalition

00:15:18.020 with you but it looks like some of the opposition parties don't want to do a coalition looks like they

00:15:22.420 want to sort of deny the results of the election how's that going yeah we are now in the process of um

00:15:30.420 talking um um about this issue in parliament and um you are totally right um if you look at the four

00:15:38.340 parties that i think is possible to form a coalition with the conservative liberal party

00:15:44.260 the farmer party and the new party of peter omtzigt the four of us would have a big majority in parliament

00:15:51.220 and more than 80 sometimes even 90 percent of the voters of all those four parties want us to work

00:15:58.980 together and still it's not automatically in a normal situation or country we would have almost

00:16:06.180 formed the government already but some of those parties are hesitant you know and some because

00:16:12.260 they have lost the elections believe that it's not their place now um to to govern whether that's

00:16:17.300 a real reason or not that's what they're saying others because they believe that some points out of

00:16:22.660 our party program against islamization are against our constitution and they don't want to work with

00:16:29.300 the party who works against the constitution so so it's it's not automatically so i have to do my best

00:16:35.380 best to at least uh get those four parties around the table and talk to one another it will probably

00:16:42.180 take time um and i hope that that will be the result and that not um other parties will take the

00:16:50.180 initiative and indeed as you said steal those elections away from us and it's not that far yet it's a

00:16:56.100 possibility but i'm still um hopeful that um we have a chance to uh to form a coalition in the government

00:17:04.100 you have a lot of ideas that you stood for over the years on immigration on islam on a brexit for

00:17:09.940 the netherlands uh obviously in any compromise or coalition there would be some high priorities and

00:17:16.340 other things that you would maybe do later have you thought about have you expressed what your absolute

00:17:22.740 priorities are that are non-negotiable and other things that are maybe less important

00:17:26.340 of course um you're totally right in in in holland uh unlike uh the united states or the united

00:17:32.180 kingdom um we don't have a two-party system we have a multi-party system we have something like 20

00:17:36.580 parties in parliament today and to get a majority um you need to compromise you cannot make sure that

00:17:43.380 your whole party program will be um the government program it's impossible if you if you aim for that

00:17:48.820 you will always be in the opposition so i have to compromise and it's a very good question what are our

00:17:52.900 priorities our first priority is uh to to to cut back in the enormous figures when it comes to

00:17:59.460 immigration and asylum seekers you know it's it's holland cannot face it anymore the european union

00:18:05.140 cannot face it anymore all the measures that that that the european union as a collective is making are

00:18:11.060 totally ineffective and we have um and we are overcrowded and and and the people are fed up with it

00:18:17.220 so the first thing is that we should take measures to stop the uh influx of so many asylum seekers and

00:18:24.100 non-western immigrants this is my first priority second priority is that um people feel that they

00:18:30.340 are totally interjected the dutchmen the indigenous people they believe that while we spent 60 17 billion

00:18:38.180 euros a year when it comes to a nitrogen or a climate change or all those other things that um um they

00:18:47.460 are have trouble um paying there for their utilities the rent uh the gasoline for their car um um the the

00:18:55.380 the social security or the the health care system so we believe that we should stop um feeding those

00:19:01.940 leftish liberal ideological nonsense issues and we should more um make sure that our people have

00:19:08.740 enough money in their pocket and really can can help our economy and help themselves so those issues

00:19:15.060 are the two most important stop the immigration and asylum seeking be proud of our own identity culture

00:19:24.180 and everything that goes with that and make sure that we make better choices with the euros that we have

00:19:29.940 don't spend it to africa don't spend it to um other countries in the european union as a transfer union

00:19:36.340 that we almost have in the euro zone don't spend it on nitrogen and other issues give our own people

00:19:42.820 their money back with lower taxes and lower burdens for the dutch you're not the prime minister yet and i

00:19:50.180 imagine some world leaders would wait until you have that position before congratulating you but you did win

00:19:56.740 the election with an enormous number have any world leaders publicly congratulated you or wished you

00:20:03.780 well uh or how have other world leaders treated you since the election well um i get more um invitations

00:20:12.020 are um um nice messages than i ever had before i don't know whether they are public so i should be

00:20:18.900 careful what i say but for instance from israel i got from ministers minister foreign affairs minister of

00:20:25.460 intelligence uh who uh people from likut who invited me and congratulated me i had a fun conversation

00:20:32.020 with victor orban who called me i know i'm already for a long time so but but still who called me and

00:20:37.540 congratulated me there were politicians from from from from from from all over the world from south

00:20:42.740 america to america who um public or not public did that and i mean it is it's really news you know you see

00:20:50.980 that in europe it was unexpected that um so many people would vote against the sitting elite you know

00:20:59.780 they didn't expect it they are not prepared for it they are in panic now in brussels for instance for

00:21:04.420 what should we do if this guy would get to power you know and this is also um what makes it more

00:21:10.420 difficult today to form a coalition in the netherlands so i have to be responsible i have to be able to

00:21:15.940 compromise i have to to to to to to to make sure that the two and a half million people who voted

00:21:22.100 for my party also get their influence what they voted for and that means i also will have to compromise

00:21:27.860 but the signal throughout europe and many parts of the world is quite clear that um the people are

00:21:34.740 growing on people are fed up with how they are dealt with by the current and sitting elite in so many

00:21:40.660 countries you know you saw it in other countries like hungary but also you see the growth of of

00:21:45.780 marine le pen in france of mr savinu is in government in italy now we saw it in sweden we see in belgium

00:21:53.220 that the flams belong is doing well we see in germany so you see a kind of a kind of revival of the

00:22:00.100 what i call patriotic movement politically and we need it to be politically because if you want to

00:22:06.180 change anything in our society you need to be um in charge and influential in your national democracy

00:22:12.820 and and and and it it goes for the better and the best way to prove it is that the sitting elite is

00:22:18.740 totally shocked don't know how to deal with it and i think that proves that we are on the right track

00:22:24.580 i saw you last night uh at an event there must have been 30 or 40 police there and i remember when i

00:22:31.620 visited you before your security is a very high priority because of threats of violence but there's

00:22:39.460 also another fear people who criticize immigration or islam uh they don't just have fear of assassination

00:22:46.580 they they have fear of being called racist yeah um what advice would you have for people in other

00:22:53.940 countries who want to take the same position as you on immigration but are afraid of either violence or

00:23:00.820 more likely they're afraid that they'll just be called racist well the the one thing that that

00:23:07.140 really helps is to to find a political party to start a political party to support an existing

00:23:14.580 political party that that that that that makes it uh something that is more common you know that's

00:23:21.060 what you saw in holland when we started when i started my political party exactly the same happened i'm

00:23:25.860 in the in the problems now with my personal security because i got five fatwas from pakistan from from

00:23:32.500 many uh arab countries where imams and mullahs said that i had to be killed and today you see in holland

00:23:39.860 that not only when it comes to immigration but also when it comes to other issues that um um people are

00:23:45.060 not afraid to say it anymore you know that's one of the differences of last week people were whispering

00:23:49.140 to one another in the last few years that okay i i vote for this pvv and this will this guy but they

00:23:54.500 they said it while having a coffee at their work instead of publicly and now people are for the

00:24:01.220 first time in holland they are proud to do so they say it at work they say it when they go to the gym

00:24:06.820 they say it on on on a party a birthday party with their with their neighbors so at the end of the day

00:24:13.620 we make this criticism normal because we know that the elite was ignoring it and was calling us racist

00:24:20.420 but we are everything but racist in holland and in so many other countries the indigenous people are

00:24:25.460 the people that are discriminated against it's not the people who are entering our country in holland

00:24:31.460 people get housing asylum seekers get housing and they get preferential housing before the dutch

00:24:37.140 indigenous people so who is discriminating who and people are really angered about that and if they

00:24:43.700 if they if they if they if you want to get to capitalize it you need a political institution

00:24:50.260 a political group who does it and that's what i said we are in many more countries in europe

00:24:56.340 and parties are getting successful so people like you and the alternative media really help a lot by

00:25:03.460 saying what a lot of other media doesn't want to broadcast or to say but at the end of the day

00:25:08.820 you need a political translation to influence in a in a parliament and a government and so that's

00:25:15.620 what i would advise don't be afraid and speak out but try to candle it canalize it in a political group

00:25:25.860 other countries like canada the conservative party is pretty conservative and pretty freedom oriented

00:25:31.620 but it still has an open borders immigration policy in the united kingdom the conservative party

00:25:38.260 open borders policy every day across the english channel what advice would you give to freedom

00:25:44.900 oriented conservative parties who are obviously afraid of losing um the vote of uh new new immigrants

00:25:54.100 what what advice would you have for canada or the united kingdom well don't be afraid first don't

00:25:58.820 be afraid a lot of people will support you secondly it's a totally misconception that the immigrants

00:26:05.860 would disagree because maybe for some people surprisingly the immigrants agree many of the

00:26:11.220 immigrants agree for in holland and many of the immigrants even many muslims voted for my party

00:26:16.900 because they know that when there is too much influx of immigration that the integration and the success

00:26:23.060 for them will only diminish so they also are in favor of less immigration they know they see what will

00:26:30.580 happen with the housing with the with their income with the jobs or with everything so surprisingly

00:26:35.940 it's not surprisingly but surprisingly to many people they are often our allies they don't want

00:26:41.540 more immigrants to come as well and the own voters the indigenous people they in the growing majority

00:26:48.660 also feel the same so don't be afraid to be political correct or incorrect just state your mind

00:26:55.780 people believe i always make the comparison to one's person's house you know you have to be able

00:27:01.220 in your own house to decide who will be your guest and when the guest should leave and that should this

00:27:06.820 should be your autonomous uh and a nationwide and national decision and holland most of that we we gave

00:27:13.780 those powers to the european union canada is a sovereign country there is no european union in canada so

00:27:18.660 the canadian government really can decide um to close the borders for people they don't want to enter like

00:27:25.140 president trump uh did and is planning to do if he would win next year by uh people from certain

00:27:32.100 countries so don't be afraid just do it and you will be surprised how many people support it including

00:27:38.900 the um immigrants themselves you're i'm grateful to you for fitting us in your schedule i know you have

00:27:44.820 to leave in about three minutes can i put some ideas to you and you can give me like a 30 second

00:27:50.180 top of mind response um what are your thoughts on russia ukraine in 30 seconds if it's possible

00:27:56.500 yeah well um i believe that russia is the bad guy here um i believe that whatever you think of the

00:28:02.820 ukraine corrupt country but um it's a sovereign nation and the russia should not have uh started the war

00:28:12.900 against ukraine so i'm on the part of the of the ukraine here i believe that the dutch should not

00:28:18.180 give um defense material to them because we have very little material ourselves and other nations

00:28:25.620 are doing it and i believe there should be negotiations instead of a war but i'm very clear

00:28:31.620 that the one who started it is russia and nobody else how about the war between israel and hamas any

00:28:37.540 thoughts on that yeah uh it's not a war about land that is my message it's a war about ideology if you

00:28:43.620 give land like my friend ariel sharon i knew him very well i was his guest when he was um

00:28:50.740 and he started to become a president prime minister i was at his funeral i know him for so many years

00:28:56.020 he was great guy one mistake he made was giving gaza and return gaza to the uh to the palestinians and it

00:29:04.260 don't make the mistake that if you give a part of land to palestinians or others that the problem will

00:29:12.020 be solved because it's not a problem of land is a problem of ideology it's it's it's people who hate

00:29:17.700 um who like who love death against people who cherish life it's it's it's it's israel is fighting

00:29:24.340 our war we support we should support israel because um they have our values they are a democratic nation

00:29:31.540 and if israel falls i always say if jerusalem falls rome paris amsterdam will be next so um um

00:29:39.140 um um um i support the decisions that israeli make they should make the decisions whether they

00:29:44.020 what they should do military or politically but um i believe we should all support israel

00:29:48.900 all the way um and instead of criticizing them i think i only have time for one last question

00:29:54.420 earlier you mentioned independent media like rebel news uh in canada and in the united kingdom and

00:30:00.740 in ireland and many countries there are new censorship laws you yourself have been prosecuted

00:30:05.940 for hate speech uh are you worried about global censorship new zealand places like that what are

00:30:12.020 your thoughts on censorship no i'm very worried about that it's that that the the the the governments

00:30:18.020 the parties the institutions that know that they cannot win on the base of arguments that they are

00:30:23.940 afraid for opponents to speak the truth and even if they don't consider it the truth it is an opinion

00:30:30.260 and people should be informed by both ways and i don't mind if there are government institutions or

00:30:35.620 government television but there should also be free speech for almost everything i really

00:30:41.540 long for a kind of first amendment that the americans have that we should have that canada

00:30:47.860 should have that the whole free world should have we should never accept that they would not allow

00:30:54.420 us to speak our minds and and and and and stations like rebel media and yourself are are are are the

00:31:01.940 most important today and i believe many more people um follow you and watch your programs than they did

00:31:09.460 10 years ago for exactly the reason not only because you have a good program because they have no

00:31:13.460 alternative to look at so so this is also why politics is important we had in holland and now in the last

00:31:19.300 few months we had this new uh public broadcaster called on hold nederland they were within the public

00:31:27.220 system but they were very critical and the all elite said we should forbid them because he said something

00:31:32.580 wrong about uh or whatever and he didn't like it and finally now after the elections when they saw that

00:31:38.180 my party was big the secretary of media said that they could stay in uh in the air and he should not

00:31:47.300 have to shut down and i don't know if it's a direct result of our winning the elections but it's too

00:31:52.020 much of a coincidence that they did it a few days after the elections so again here political power

00:31:57.700 fighting for freedom of speech um against uh the the the the what what the elite wants to do

00:32:04.420 and not to let us speak the truth is the only way and we will get there i mean our if if if if i

00:32:11.220 my my um the winning of the pvv means anything uh for other nations um is that there is hope for

00:32:18.820 change congratulations again and thank you for your time today thank you for coming here

00:32:31.220 well what do you think of that there's a lot in there in fact i think tomorrow

00:32:35.060 when i'm back in toronto hopefully if we ever get out of this airport um i'd like to go through

00:32:39.940 those things again because each one of his answers was very dense as in jam-packed with meaning from

00:32:46.580 his take on ukraine to his thoughts on israel to even something i thought was very interesting that

00:32:52.500 he said many immigrants to the netherlands are against mass migration for reasons including they

00:32:59.060 don't want antipathy towards themselves because of bad behaving bogus refugees a lot in there i want

00:33:06.180 to unpack that but what do you think of it how did you think i did in that interview i think in

00:33:11.780 some ways it's the most prestigious interview i have been able to secure he's not prime minister yet

00:33:17.460 but he's obviously most likely to be the prime minister he's a momentous man who won a smashing

00:33:22.900 election landslide and he clearly is a man of ideas i and frankly there's some affection between

00:33:30.180 the two of us you may recall more than 10 years ago i went on a speaking tour in canada with

00:33:34.180 here at builders and to see him win the prize or come within an arm's reach or almost like the

00:33:39.620 winning the prize is quite something anyways i'm going to say goodbye now our plane is hopefully

00:33:45.220 boarding for uh going home to canada and uh we'll get out of this lovely airport but no airport is

00:33:51.300 lovely enough that you'd want to stay an extra day um to see all of our reports on our whirlwind trip

00:33:59.380 uh we put them all on a page called the truth about builders.com builder spelled with a w so it

00:34:04.820 it's actually spelled the truth about wilders.com we have a bunch of videos including interesting

00:34:10.100 on the street videos we call them streeters i think you'll get a kick out of those um all right

00:34:15.700 well i'm gonna try and go home now until tomorrow on behalf of all of us here in where are we today

00:34:22.100 amsterdam to wherever you are in the world good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - December 01, 2023

EZRA LEVANT ｜ Geert Wilders sits down with Ezra Levant for a Rebel News Exclusive

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