Rebel News Podcast - August 21, 2021


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Hackers crack Quebec’s vax passports in 15 hours — which means China has already been in there


Episode Stats

Length

34 minutes

Words per Minute

170.08508

Word Count

5,791

Sentence Count

264

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Quebec hacks its own vaccination passport in 15 hours, and Ezra thinks China has already been in there. Plus, a pro-vaccination New York Times article about Israel, and a new vaccine that could have side effects.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. A big story in the Journal de Montréal.
00:00:02.900 Quebec has a vaccine passport that is based on your phone, of course.
00:00:06.560 It's got a QR code.
00:00:08.480 And they found hackers who could hack it in 15 hours.
00:00:12.480 Hack the whole thing.
00:00:14.060 And I'll take you through this great story in the Journal de Montréal.
00:00:17.380 And I've got another question for you.
00:00:19.700 If the Journal de Montréal can hack it in 15 hours,
00:00:22.920 do you doubt that the Chinese government's already been in there?
00:00:25.540 That's ahead.
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00:00:58.960 Tonight, hackers crack Quebec's vaccine passport in 15 hours,
00:01:12.440 which means China has already been in there.
00:01:15.420 It's August 20th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:18.160 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:23.920 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:27.980 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it
00:01:31.640 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:38.860 Look at this story in the newspaper called Journal de Montréal,
00:01:43.300 obviously the Montreal Journal.
00:01:44.980 This is what it looks like in French.
00:01:47.160 I'm going to put it through the Google Translate machine now
00:01:49.300 to show you roughly what it means in English.
00:01:53.560 Your risky data on the vaccination passport.
00:01:58.880 Fraudsters could easily know where you went
00:02:01.580 and save your personal information.
00:02:04.480 Oh, just that.
00:02:07.220 In less than 15 hours, hackers have created an application
00:02:10.300 that allows you to copy the personal information
00:02:12.940 included in the vaccination passport
00:02:14.960 and track certain movements of Quebecers.
00:02:17.800 Oh, really?
00:02:19.160 Yeah, no problem.
00:02:21.160 These well-intentioned specialists
00:02:23.120 do not question the importance of the vaccine.
00:02:26.360 I think the Journal de Montréal put that in there
00:02:28.740 just so they won't be jumped on as being anti-vax.
00:02:31.280 I'm guessing that they wrote that.
00:02:33.180 I don't believe the hackers actually said that
00:02:36.120 because I don't know what the importance
00:02:39.180 of the vaccine passport even is
00:02:42.180 given that we know that if you're vaccinated
00:02:44.840 you can still spread the virus.
00:02:47.080 So what exactly is the importance
00:02:49.300 of carrying this spyware on you
00:02:52.980 other than the spying part?
00:02:56.860 I mean, first it was one vaccine shot,
00:02:59.580 then it was two, now it's three.
00:03:01.520 Maybe now the billionaire profiteers
00:03:03.720 at all the vax companies are talking about annual shots.
00:03:07.980 Maybe it'll be like coffee shops
00:03:09.140 where you get a card and you get your card stamped
00:03:12.200 and if you have nine coffees,
00:03:13.800 your 10th coffee is free.
00:03:15.940 I'm sure that's healthy.
00:03:18.220 All those meds, especially the mRNA ones.
00:03:21.220 But does it work?
00:03:22.800 Do the vaccinations work?
00:03:23.980 Here's a big story in the pro-vax,
00:03:26.860 pro-panic New York Times about Israel,
00:03:29.560 one of the most vaxed countries in the world,
00:03:31.620 which now has one of the highest infection rates
00:03:35.180 in the world.
00:03:35.660 What's happening?
00:03:37.140 Shouldn't we maybe stop and think about it
00:03:39.540 and study it a bit more
00:03:40.800 before doubling down and tripling down?
00:03:42.480 I mean, I know politicians like to brazen
00:03:45.140 through problems, just stick it out,
00:03:48.020 but shouldn't scientists be a little more,
00:03:50.860 you know, scientific?
00:03:53.240 The Washington Post just said
00:03:55.300 that the Moderna vaccine has more side effects
00:03:58.760 than previously thought.
00:04:00.480 It can inflame the heart of young men.
00:04:04.040 And I don't mean that metaphorically, myocarditis.
00:04:07.200 So young men are one of the least likelihood
00:04:10.680 of dying from this disease other than children.
00:04:14.120 So why are we pushing this drug on them
00:04:16.400 with side effects?
00:04:18.020 Of course, this hasn't all been tested fully.
00:04:21.040 How could it be?
00:04:21.820 It's so rushed.
00:04:23.160 How could we know what the effects are
00:04:24.640 if you have three, four, five shots of this stuff
00:04:27.920 with all the boosters?
00:04:29.060 We don't even know the effects
00:04:30.600 of having one or two shots
00:04:31.820 because the vaccines are still in clinical trials.
00:04:35.300 They're still experimental.
00:04:36.900 None of the vaccines have been approved yet by the FDA.
00:04:40.060 And not just the vaccines,
00:04:41.160 all the pandemic public health theater.
00:04:43.840 Like, you know, those awful, ugly,
00:04:46.640 dehumanizing, plexiglass walls
00:04:49.160 that are everywhere now make you feel
00:04:51.760 like you're checking into a prison or something.
00:04:55.420 Here's the New York Times,
00:04:56.720 the biggest pro-vaxxers around.
00:04:59.620 Those anti-COVID plastic barriers
00:05:01.920 probably don't help and may make things worse.
00:05:05.400 That's their headline.
00:05:06.860 Oh, okay, thanks for that.
00:05:08.400 Thanks for telling us 18 months into things.
00:05:10.800 Maybe we should have, you know,
00:05:12.000 studied that before commanding shopkeepers
00:05:15.380 spend tens of billions of dollars
00:05:17.800 forcing it on them
00:05:19.600 and between them and their customers.
00:05:21.280 My point is, look, this was never about health.
00:05:25.220 This was about control.
00:05:27.440 So when the Journal de Montréal claims
00:05:29.280 that it's really and really important
00:05:31.160 to have this spyware on your phone,
00:05:33.520 they mean that the spyware itself is important,
00:05:36.640 not any health claims,
00:05:37.700 because vaccine passports
00:05:39.900 have actually never been studied.
00:05:41.040 We don't know if they work.
00:05:41.920 There's never been a vaxed passport before.
00:05:44.200 No one can say they'll be effective
00:05:46.480 any more than those infuriating plastic dividers are.
00:05:50.700 The spying on you part,
00:05:53.280 that's not a bug.
00:05:54.760 That's a feature.
00:05:56.080 That's the whole point.
00:05:58.220 Back to the story.
00:05:59.980 These well-intentioned specialists
00:06:01.500 do not question the importance of the vaccine,
00:06:03.720 but they wanted to demonstrate
00:06:05.040 that the personal information contained
00:06:06.640 in the vaccination passport,
00:06:08.380 which will be mandatory from September 1st,
00:06:10.200 in particular to go to the restaurant or gym,
00:06:13.680 is not well protected.
00:06:15.280 Hey, no problem.
00:06:16.800 I'm sure the government will get it fixed
00:06:18.340 in the next 10 days.
00:06:20.480 Governments are well-known
00:06:21.320 for working very quickly and very carefully.
00:06:23.200 They truly care about you.
00:06:26.360 Our Bureau of Investigation spoke with one of the hackers
00:06:29.260 who created an application
00:06:30.640 to read the famous QR codes
00:06:32.340 provided by the government
00:06:33.440 to all those who received the vaccine.
00:06:35.320 We were also able to successfully test the application
00:06:39.500 and see for ourselves
00:06:40.760 the two main breaches in privacy.
00:06:43.380 It's super easy.
00:06:44.760 We can do what we want
00:06:45.660 with the information afterwards,
00:06:47.280 says one of the designers who spoke to us
00:06:49.140 provided that his identity is protected.
00:06:51.760 This specialist is part of the HackFest community,
00:06:54.960 a Quebec group of industry-recognized
00:06:56.580 computer security experts.
00:06:58.940 It's a good story.
00:07:00.400 They sure are trying hard to let you know
00:07:02.140 that these are the good guys, not the bad guys.
00:07:04.240 These hackers are nice hackers.
00:07:06.220 They believe in vaccine passports.
00:07:08.120 Don't be mad at them for revealing
00:07:09.640 that your private medical records
00:07:11.460 are laughably insecure.
00:07:13.140 You know, if that were a private company
00:07:15.560 making these vax passports
00:07:17.160 and leaking your private information that way,
00:07:21.120 they would be subject to legal action
00:07:22.840 under various privacy laws,
00:07:24.640 probably contract laws.
00:07:26.080 But it's the government, so they won't be.
00:07:28.800 I mean, what are they going to do?
00:07:29.620 Prosecute themselves?
00:07:30.460 On August 12th, faced with some fears
00:07:34.840 raised by opposition parties,
00:07:36.820 Prime Minister Francois Legault
00:07:38.040 defended the vaccination passport
00:07:39.720 by declaring it totally safe.
00:07:43.340 Hey, that's what they said about the vaccines too, isn't it?
00:07:46.760 Less than two weeks before its entry into force,
00:07:49.200 computer security specialists are worried.
00:07:51.260 I can't counterfeit a QR code, it's true,
00:07:55.420 but there is nothing that prevents me
00:07:57.060 from reading and saving your information,
00:07:59.520 notes the hacker.
00:08:01.120 The latter also encourages people
00:08:02.700 to go for vaccination.
00:08:04.080 The problem is the technology use, he argues,
00:08:06.620 believing that a paper proof
00:08:08.000 without a QR code would be much safer.
00:08:11.300 But don't you see,
00:08:12.480 it's not about a piece of paper.
00:08:14.740 It's about setting up an entire computer system,
00:08:18.280 electronically,
00:08:19.720 tied into a master database
00:08:21.520 that has everything.
00:08:23.640 Your travel documents,
00:08:25.060 your legal status,
00:08:26.140 your public profile on social media,
00:08:28.940 whether or not you have unapproved ideas, maybe.
00:08:31.420 We know this because that's the model
00:08:33.120 that was developed for China
00:08:34.960 by Western tech companies.
00:08:37.400 They have this system in China,
00:08:38.600 they call it the social credit system,
00:08:40.520 as in, it's like you're credit rating at a bank
00:08:43.100 with the credit bureau,
00:08:44.660 but instead of measuring how good
00:08:46.480 a borrowing risk you are for banks,
00:08:49.080 this will measure your political risk
00:08:51.620 as determined by the government.
00:08:54.740 And just like in China,
00:08:55.780 that risk will determine
00:08:57.160 whether or not you can fly,
00:08:58.720 take a train, go to school,
00:09:00.060 have an apartment.
00:09:01.500 This was tried out in China
00:09:02.820 by Western companies,
00:09:03.960 including in Xinjiang,
00:09:05.340 in the Xinjiang Muslim region in the West,
00:09:07.320 by the way,
00:09:07.680 that's something we learned actually
00:09:09.420 in our access to information
00:09:10.560 on the China files that we got
00:09:12.260 from the Defense Department.
00:09:14.120 The Canadian government has known for years
00:09:17.320 about how China uses smartphone-based
00:09:20.540 social credit apps
00:09:22.420 to track Muslims in Xinjiang.
00:09:25.280 They've never condemned it,
00:09:27.040 the Canadians.
00:09:28.700 Why would the Canadian government condemn it?
00:09:30.380 Because they're copying it.
00:09:31.760 I like this part of the story.
00:09:33.960 The hackers show they could hack it in hours,
00:09:36.140 but look at what the government says.
00:09:37.620 Look at who the government blames.
00:09:38.820 Just like they blame you for getting sick,
00:09:42.140 or they blame you for not wanting
00:09:43.600 to be part of their drug experiment,
00:09:46.140 they blame you for not keeping
00:09:47.560 your data secret.
00:09:49.700 Citizens to be vigilant
00:09:51.260 supports the government.
00:09:54.160 Quebec City,
00:09:54.820 that's the capital of Quebec,
00:09:55.920 refuses to take responsibility
00:09:57.360 for the protection of data
00:09:58.580 that ends up on Quebecers' vaccine evidence.
00:10:01.160 Quote,
00:10:01.760 Citizens are responsible for the protection
00:10:03.720 of their personal vaccination information.
00:10:05.700 To avoid potential fraud,
00:10:07.760 it is recommended that citizens
00:10:08.960 keep their proof of vaccination
00:10:10.160 for themselves,
00:10:11.440 as is the unique link
00:10:12.480 provided by email or text message,
00:10:14.540 said government spokesperson
00:10:15.900 Marie Louise Harvey.
00:10:18.520 Yeah, I think everyone in Canada
00:10:20.700 has kept their vaccine information
00:10:22.780 to themselves for their whole lives.
00:10:25.040 I mean, I don't walk around
00:10:25.960 with my measles vaccine info on me.
00:10:28.560 I haven't seen it in 30 years.
00:10:30.400 It probably doesn't exist.
00:10:31.820 It's the government
00:10:32.760 that is forcing us all
00:10:34.460 to tell strangers
00:10:35.960 about our health info
00:10:37.040 or not be able to live life.
00:10:38.840 And now they're blaming us
00:10:40.680 because we're forced
00:10:42.000 to tell strangers
00:10:43.000 our private health info?
00:10:44.620 I'll read some more.
00:10:45.580 It is difficult, however,
00:10:46.580 to keep for oneself proof
00:10:47.980 that must be presented
00:10:48.980 to a third party
00:10:49.900 to access a public place.
00:10:51.860 You don't say.
00:10:53.920 So what can hackers do
00:10:55.260 with your VAX passport?
00:10:57.020 Well, they can do everything
00:10:57.860 the government plans to do on you.
00:10:59.540 I'll read some more.
00:11:00.120 One, track your movements.
00:11:03.380 A merchant who holds
00:11:04.320 several deductibles
00:11:05.340 can easily know
00:11:06.720 where and when
00:11:07.840 you have had
00:11:09.040 your vaccination passport scan
00:11:10.520 in recent weeks
00:11:11.240 in establishments
00:11:12.540 linked to him.
00:11:14.080 This will allow them
00:11:15.020 to study your consumption habits
00:11:16.680 and use them
00:11:17.480 for marketing purposes.
00:11:19.700 A network of merchants
00:11:20.700 could also share this data
00:11:22.100 with each other
00:11:22.780 to make targeting
00:11:23.920 even more effective.
00:11:24.940 Oh, great.
00:11:25.640 So they're selling your info
00:11:26.840 to make money off you.
00:11:28.040 Two, copy your personal information.
00:11:30.820 By scanning your QR code,
00:11:32.480 a merchant has instant access
00:11:33.820 to the following information,
00:11:35.080 which he can save.
00:11:36.660 First name, last name,
00:11:37.820 sex, date of birth,
00:11:38.920 name of the vaccines received,
00:11:41.060 date and place of vaccination.
00:11:44.320 Malian merchants
00:11:45.520 linked to organized crime,
00:11:47.740 for example,
00:11:49.080 could cross-reference
00:11:50.620 this data
00:11:51.660 with data from other data leaks,
00:11:53.680 such as the one
00:11:54.300 that claimed 9.7 million
00:11:55.720 victims at Desjardins.
00:11:57.280 So that's a bank
00:11:59.160 that had a big data leak.
00:12:01.280 So yeah,
00:12:01.660 cross-referencing
00:12:02.560 your vaccine.
00:12:04.020 Hey, remember the income tax?
00:12:06.540 That temporary measure
00:12:07.940 that'll be gone
00:12:08.660 as soon as we beat the Kaiser
00:12:10.080 in this great war.
00:12:11.500 Yeah, it's not temporary.
00:12:13.180 We're still paying the income tax
00:12:14.360 more than a century later.
00:12:15.380 But listen to this guy,
00:12:16.300 they quote.
00:12:18.160 Temporary measure.
00:12:19.780 In a text he published last May,
00:12:21.980 his colleague,
00:12:22.700 Jocelyn McClure,
00:12:24.060 professor of ethics
00:12:24.960 at McGill University,
00:12:26.220 stressed that
00:12:26.840 the vaccination passport
00:12:27.860 is a fair measure,
00:12:29.740 but it must be temporary.
00:12:31.680 Proof of immunization
00:12:32.580 will no longer be necessary
00:12:33.740 if herd immunity is reached,
00:12:35.080 he summarizes.
00:12:37.800 Not a single politician
00:12:39.100 will say that it's temporary.
00:12:40.460 They don't.
00:12:41.960 Because it's not temporary.
00:12:44.040 None of this is temporary.
00:12:45.460 They're just loving it too much.
00:12:47.180 They said it was going to be gone
00:12:48.760 in two weeks.
00:12:49.420 Do you still believe
00:12:50.220 any of this is temporary?
00:12:51.240 Great story in the
00:12:53.360 Journal de Montréal.
00:12:54.140 Only in French,
00:12:55.340 for some reason.
00:12:57.600 The CBC hasn't picked up
00:12:59.020 the story yet.
00:13:00.600 I bet if the CBC is looking at it,
00:13:02.800 they're busy fact-checking it
00:13:04.220 in order to get it
00:13:05.260 kicked off Facebook.
00:13:06.580 We talked about that this week.
00:13:08.640 Of course,
00:13:09.220 the high-tech malware,
00:13:10.820 the spyware,
00:13:12.300 the social credit system,
00:13:14.080 is the beginning
00:13:14.700 of a new police state.
00:13:16.600 But what's so troubling
00:13:17.760 is that humans love this.
00:13:20.080 Humans made this.
00:13:20.940 You can see how easily it is
00:13:22.460 for democracy
00:13:24.140 to give way to a tyranny.
00:13:26.000 Imagine the gall
00:13:26.960 of Ontario Premier Doug Ford
00:13:29.760 and his staff
00:13:30.360 calling up a pregnant MPP,
00:13:33.520 a pregnant woman,
00:13:35.040 and demanding
00:13:36.120 that she take
00:13:37.420 an experimental vaccine
00:13:38.840 right in the middle
00:13:40.160 of her pregnancy
00:13:40.820 or she will be fired
00:13:42.380 and kicked out of the caucus.
00:13:43.680 Imagine doing that
00:13:45.100 and then not
00:13:46.900 taking her personal choice
00:13:48.780 as a sufficient reason
00:13:50.140 that she won't
00:13:51.560 and demanding
00:13:53.000 that that pregnant woman
00:13:54.800 get a doctor's note
00:13:56.240 so the doctor can certify
00:13:57.620 that she doesn't have
00:13:58.300 to take this experimental med
00:13:59.720 while she has a baby
00:14:01.300 inside her.
00:14:02.780 That's what the clumsy
00:14:03.940 oaf Doug Ford did.
00:14:06.060 Threatened a young,
00:14:07.820 pregnant woman,
00:14:09.100 forcing her to take the vax
00:14:10.520 or she'd be fired.
00:14:11.820 Because, of course,
00:14:12.520 just by looking at Doug Ford,
00:14:13.720 you can see he deeply cares
00:14:15.100 about personal health.
00:14:16.360 I think Christina
00:14:17.520 might have should call
00:14:18.220 Doug Ford and say,
00:14:19.500 you lose 100 pounds,
00:14:20.960 fatso,
00:14:21.620 or I'm going to kick you out
00:14:22.920 because you're not healthy.
00:14:24.060 Why can't she demand
00:14:25.040 he get healthy?
00:14:25.820 She looks healthier
00:14:26.460 to me than he does.
00:14:28.560 What a bully Doug Ford is.
00:14:30.420 What a thug.
00:14:31.360 And no objections
00:14:32.580 from the rest of the caucus.
00:14:35.660 If Doug Ford will bully
00:14:37.260 his own caucus colleagues,
00:14:38.560 and he's a conservative,
00:14:39.760 if he'll bully
00:14:40.500 a pregnant woman,
00:14:41.700 imagine what he would do to you.
00:14:44.100 The vaccine passport
00:14:46.780 is not about a vaccine.
00:14:48.900 It's not about a virus.
00:14:50.640 And it's an insult to passports
00:14:52.360 to describe it as a passport.
00:14:55.340 Have you ever read your passport?
00:14:57.240 There's not a lot of words in it.
00:14:59.060 The first page tells you
00:15:00.480 exactly what it is.
00:15:01.320 I'll read it to you.
00:15:02.600 The Minister of Foreign Affairs
00:15:03.920 of Canada requests
00:15:04.900 in the name of Her Majesty the Queen,
00:15:06.900 all those whom it may concern
00:15:08.240 to allow the bearer
00:15:10.460 to pass freely
00:15:11.340 without delay or hindrance,
00:15:12.560 and to afford the bearer
00:15:13.880 such assistance
00:15:14.520 and protection
00:15:15.500 as may be necessary.
00:15:17.160 That's it.
00:15:17.700 That's all my passport says.
00:15:19.480 It's basically a letter
00:15:20.520 from the Queen to the world,
00:15:22.660 letting the world know
00:15:23.540 that the Queen's
00:15:24.560 watching out for you
00:15:25.420 and would the world
00:15:26.460 please not hinder
00:15:27.340 or delay you
00:15:28.120 and maybe even help
00:15:28.980 and protect you.
00:15:30.780 For one reason only,
00:15:32.040 it says on the very next page,
00:15:33.320 because you're a citizen.
00:15:34.780 That's it.
00:15:35.520 That's all a passport is.
00:15:36.600 The Queen's saying,
00:15:37.680 this guy's on my team.
00:15:38.900 You be nice to him.
00:15:39.840 That's the opposite
00:15:41.840 of this vaccine passport,
00:15:43.320 which is only about
00:15:45.340 delaying and hindering you.
00:15:47.440 A real passport
00:15:48.280 carries only one fact about you.
00:15:50.300 You're a citizen.
00:15:51.160 That's all people learn
00:15:52.080 from their passport.
00:15:53.420 A vax passport
00:15:54.300 carries your private secrets
00:15:56.120 that you're either forced
00:15:58.160 to tell strangers
00:15:59.260 or, as we now know,
00:16:00.880 can be hacked.
00:16:02.640 To call it a vaccine passport
00:16:04.080 is actually a lie.
00:16:05.220 It's spyware.
00:16:05.980 It's a permanent surveillance
00:16:07.720 and control mechanism,
00:16:09.040 which is why
00:16:09.720 it will be permanent.
00:16:11.960 It's outrageous enough
00:16:12.980 that you will have to tell
00:16:13.860 every clerk,
00:16:14.440 every waiter,
00:16:14.980 every bouncer
00:16:15.640 your private medical status.
00:16:17.460 But now we know
00:16:18.200 that you'll also have
00:16:19.320 to expose that information
00:16:20.280 to criminals and fraudsters.
00:16:21.720 And it is a safe bet
00:16:23.120 that the entire file
00:16:25.600 of everyone
00:16:26.580 with such a passport
00:16:27.460 has already been hacked
00:16:29.940 and downloaded
00:16:31.520 into China's security database.
00:16:34.420 Do you doubt it?
00:16:35.880 Stay with us for more.
00:16:48.380 Hey, welcome back.
00:16:49.460 Well, we certainly like
00:16:50.140 to talk about the election.
00:16:51.360 We like to talk
00:16:52.020 about vaccine passports
00:16:53.180 because we're worried
00:16:53.980 about them as a privacy-invading
00:16:56.440 surveillance tool
00:16:57.340 that removes our liberties.
00:16:58.600 But I want to give you
00:16:59.940 an update on the largest project
00:17:02.060 we've ever done
00:17:02.780 in our six and a half years.
00:17:03.880 You know what I'm talking about.
00:17:05.100 We call it
00:17:06.140 the Fight the Fines Project.
00:17:08.320 We have over 2,200 cases in Canada
00:17:12.240 plus a few dozen in the UK
00:17:13.840 and Australia
00:17:14.560 that our viewers
00:17:15.540 in those countries crowdfund.
00:17:17.160 But the big project
00:17:18.800 is here in Canada.
00:17:20.620 Just to remind you
00:17:21.980 because we haven't talked
00:17:22.600 about it in a while,
00:17:23.820 Fight the Fines is different
00:17:26.000 from pay the fines.
00:17:27.180 We don't pay people's fines for them.
00:17:29.020 We don't want to do that.
00:17:29.880 We don't have the money.
00:17:31.460 What we do want to do
00:17:32.800 is strengthen civil liberties
00:17:34.260 in Canada for everyone.
00:17:36.140 And typically,
00:17:37.560 the people who get hit
00:17:38.460 with these lockdown fines
00:17:39.640 are working-class people
00:17:40.980 or poor people,
00:17:42.160 people who have to go to work,
00:17:43.340 mom-and-pop shops.
00:17:44.520 And it almost looks to me
00:17:46.020 like the police
00:17:46.880 are picking on low-income people.
00:17:50.080 So I believe this is
00:17:51.080 a kind of access
00:17:51.940 to justice project too.
00:17:54.680 And we don't turn anyone away
00:17:56.320 unless there's some crazy fact.
00:17:59.380 Like I think we did turn away
00:18:00.900 an illegal criminal biker gang,
00:18:04.880 believe it or not.
00:18:05.540 I think that was the only person we,
00:18:07.880 the only group we didn't take.
00:18:09.800 But other than that,
00:18:11.020 we don't check
00:18:12.120 if someone's a liberal
00:18:13.060 or a conservative.
00:18:14.360 We don't check
00:18:15.140 if they're black, white,
00:18:16.440 or any color or religion.
00:18:17.820 If you are a Canadian
00:18:19.240 and you've got a fine,
00:18:21.960 we will fight it for you.
00:18:24.060 And we now have, I think,
00:18:26.000 I think we have 21 lawyers
00:18:27.640 working across the country.
00:18:29.560 We even are taking cases
00:18:31.200 in the far north,
00:18:33.120 cases in the Yukon
00:18:34.320 and the Northwest Territories.
00:18:35.960 I think Nunavut is,
00:18:37.920 Nunavut and PEI
00:18:39.200 are the only two places in Canada
00:18:41.820 where we don't have cases.
00:18:42.900 We have over 1,000 in Ontario.
00:18:45.020 Now, I'm going to call in
00:18:46.920 Sheila Gunn-Reed
00:18:47.660 our chief reporter
00:18:48.680 in a moment
00:18:49.020 because she is really
00:18:50.300 leading the charge
00:18:51.080 in so many of these cases.
00:18:52.740 But we took our first case
00:18:54.680 in April of 2020.
00:18:57.300 And of course,
00:18:57.800 it's almost September 2021.
00:19:00.000 So one of the things
00:19:01.100 you can probably imagine
00:19:02.760 is that a lot of these cases
00:19:04.320 have been stalled,
00:19:06.680 partly because the courts
00:19:08.000 have been closed
00:19:09.080 or slowed down
00:19:10.680 because of the pandemic
00:19:11.600 and partly because
00:19:12.820 the government really doesn't
00:19:13.660 know what it's doing.
00:19:14.700 If you get a drunk driving ticket
00:19:16.300 or if you're charged
00:19:17.560 with assault, for example,
00:19:19.340 police, prosecutors,
00:19:21.100 the courts, the government
00:19:22.120 knows about those laws
00:19:24.120 because they've been
00:19:24.780 on the books,
00:19:25.580 well, for decades
00:19:26.760 or centuries even.
00:19:28.580 And so handling those cases
00:19:30.260 is what they do every day.
00:19:31.460 It's like an assembly line.
00:19:32.620 But these lockdown rules
00:19:34.540 and the bans on gatherings
00:19:36.260 and the bans on...
00:19:37.080 And the ideas are new.
00:19:39.360 The laws are often hastily written.
00:19:41.440 They're usually orders,
00:19:43.000 not even laws.
00:19:44.100 And they're changing all the time.
00:19:46.080 So really,
00:19:47.380 bringing in thousands
00:19:49.100 of new charges
00:19:50.320 in a court system
00:19:51.800 that's already slowed down
00:19:53.060 by police who don't know
00:19:54.760 what the rules are
00:19:55.680 on any given day
00:19:56.600 and prosecutors
00:19:57.560 who probably have
00:19:59.360 more important things to do
00:20:00.920 than to prosecute someone
00:20:02.800 because they were
00:20:03.460 not wearing a mask
00:20:05.060 were in the case
00:20:05.700 of one of our talent
00:20:07.200 here in Toronto,
00:20:08.200 Efrain Monsanto
00:20:09.100 in Hamilton.
00:20:09.960 He got a ticket
00:20:11.820 for shaking someone's hand.
00:20:15.180 That's a true story.
00:20:16.540 You can see the video on it.
00:20:17.860 So a lot of these cases
00:20:19.500 are now 18 months old
00:20:21.780 and they haven't moved.
00:20:22.660 And I am hopeful
00:20:23.820 that they will be thrown out
00:20:26.340 en masse.
00:20:27.280 Not all of them,
00:20:28.060 but that maybe hundreds of them
00:20:30.260 will be thrown out
00:20:31.460 for want of prosecution.
00:20:32.800 You may know
00:20:33.620 that it's an ancient right
00:20:35.140 and it's in fact
00:20:35.840 enshrined in our Constitution.
00:20:37.640 The right to a speedy trial.
00:20:40.340 And if you are sitting
00:20:41.280 with this sword of Damocles
00:20:42.560 hovering over you,
00:20:44.320 the stigma of being charged
00:20:45.860 for a year,
00:20:47.160 two years,
00:20:47.740 three years,
00:20:48.720 courts in Canada have said
00:20:49.980 if the government
00:20:50.800 ticketed you,
00:20:53.240 threatened you,
00:20:54.440 told you to come to court
00:20:55.700 and then sat on their hands
00:20:57.020 for two, three years,
00:20:58.100 you're out of jail, buddy.
00:21:00.400 And it is my hope
00:21:01.500 that we free hundreds
00:21:02.480 if not thousands
00:21:03.160 of people that way.
00:21:04.580 And wouldn't that be wonderful
00:21:05.860 if we saved them from
00:21:07.880 paying,
00:21:09.760 a lot of people
00:21:10.480 were thinking of paying
00:21:11.440 these fines
00:21:12.040 just to get out of them.
00:21:14.680 I think,
00:21:15.480 I feel optimistic.
00:21:17.160 And I want to bring in now
00:21:18.360 our chief reporter,
00:21:19.740 Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:21:20.520 because
00:21:20.920 I was just talking to her
00:21:23.300 this morning
00:21:23.680 on our staff call
00:21:24.460 and she said
00:21:25.160 we have had so many cases
00:21:27.580 thrown out
00:21:29.260 that she can't even keep up.
00:21:30.980 Sheila, great to see you.
00:21:32.300 You were really there
00:21:33.200 for a very early case.
00:21:35.120 I remember the case
00:21:35.660 of Walter Matheson
00:21:37.160 in Hampton, New Brunswick.
00:21:39.320 He has been freed.
00:21:40.500 He got a big ticket
00:21:41.240 for drinking a coffee
00:21:42.340 in his car
00:21:42.940 in a parking lot.
00:21:43.720 Crazy.
00:21:44.980 Give us,
00:21:45.420 I was rambling on a bit there.
00:21:46.640 I'm just so excited.
00:21:47.320 Give us a bit of an update
00:21:48.240 on the Fight the Fines project
00:21:49.740 in general
00:21:50.300 and then I know
00:21:50.720 you've got a few cases
00:21:51.440 you're going to tell us about.
00:21:53.180 Sure.
00:21:53.540 Fight the Fines
00:21:54.560 is one of those things
00:21:55.480 here at Rebel News
00:21:56.560 that I'm really proud of
00:21:57.900 because not only
00:22:00.760 are we documenting
00:22:01.560 the misdeeds
00:22:02.480 of the government
00:22:03.120 and the government
00:22:03.740 overreaction
00:22:04.900 during the pandemic
00:22:06.960 and how,
00:22:08.860 as you rightly point out
00:22:09.860 and as one of our lawyers,
00:22:11.160 Chad Williamson,
00:22:12.080 says,
00:22:12.620 this is really
00:22:13.340 a punishment
00:22:13.940 of the poor
00:22:14.720 because if you're rich,
00:22:16.100 if you've got
00:22:16.620 expendable income,
00:22:17.940 you'll just pay
00:22:18.420 your $880 ticket
00:22:19.680 and walk away.
00:22:20.340 But for families
00:22:21.280 that are really hard hit
00:22:22.220 by the pandemic,
00:22:23.740 $880 bucks
00:22:24.980 or $1,200
00:22:25.740 or $5,000
00:22:27.180 or in the instance
00:22:28.300 of some of these families,
00:22:29.440 you know,
00:22:29.700 $20,000,
00:22:31.300 that's enough
00:22:32.040 to destroy a family
00:22:33.040 on the cusp.
00:22:33.740 That'll rip
00:22:34.600 a family to shreds.
00:22:36.620 And so,
00:22:37.120 instead of just
00:22:37.980 telling the misdeeds,
00:22:39.580 I think it is
00:22:40.320 really perfectly rebel
00:22:42.560 that not only
00:22:43.340 do we tell
00:22:44.280 the misdeeds,
00:22:45.480 we offer help
00:22:46.580 because sometimes
00:22:47.200 just telling the story
00:22:48.900 without offering help
00:22:50.020 for me,
00:22:50.800 that's something
00:22:51.240 the mainstream media does.
00:22:53.000 We don't like
00:22:53.520 to exploit the story
00:22:54.980 for clicks.
00:22:55.840 We want to be able
00:22:56.460 to help.
00:22:56.920 And so,
00:22:57.160 that's what Fight the Fines
00:22:58.060 does and that's why
00:22:59.000 I'm really proud
00:22:59.580 of the work
00:23:00.040 that we're doing.
00:23:00.880 But yeah,
00:23:01.400 some of the things
00:23:02.600 are finally making
00:23:03.900 their way
00:23:04.320 into the court system
00:23:05.240 and particularly
00:23:06.360 out of Manitoba
00:23:07.900 where we have
00:23:09.000 the really incredible
00:23:10.140 Alberta lawyer
00:23:11.040 Leighton Gray
00:23:11.860 and his team
00:23:12.580 working on many
00:23:13.320 of the cases
00:23:13.900 in Manitoba.
00:23:15.180 Those things
00:23:15.760 are being kicked
00:23:16.420 out of court
00:23:16.960 on the other side
00:23:17.820 so fast
00:23:18.740 I can't keep up.
00:23:19.980 I'm trying my best
00:23:20.780 to report them
00:23:21.540 and in the coming
00:23:22.340 days and weeks
00:23:23.080 you'll be seeing
00:23:24.140 a lot of stories
00:23:24.900 coming from me
00:23:25.680 about the successes
00:23:26.660 that we have
00:23:27.260 in Manitoba
00:23:28.020 and that's great news
00:23:29.680 to me because
00:23:30.180 Manitoba was really
00:23:31.160 one of the more
00:23:32.080 oppressive
00:23:32.760 lockdown jurisdictions.
00:23:34.500 In fact,
00:23:34.780 it remains that way
00:23:35.920 but at least
00:23:36.780 we've provided
00:23:37.720 a little reprieve
00:23:38.840 for some of the people
00:23:39.680 who are currently
00:23:40.340 in Manitoba
00:23:41.100 and as you know
00:23:42.060 in Alberta
00:23:42.620 with Chad Williamson
00:23:43.820 outside of
00:23:45.080 you know
00:23:45.300 the big
00:23:46.220 constitutional
00:23:47.000 and you know
00:23:48.760 sort of
00:23:49.140 contempt of court
00:23:49.900 cases
00:23:50.300 and the big
00:23:51.020 legal challenges
00:23:51.940 on the ticket
00:23:53.120 front
00:23:53.520 he and his team
00:23:54.740 have not lost
00:23:55.420 a single case
00:23:56.040 every single ticket
00:23:57.180 they've taken on
00:23:57.880 has been kicked out
00:23:58.880 that has gotten
00:24:00.860 to that point
00:24:01.560 in the process
00:24:02.200 things are
00:24:03.300 other things
00:24:03.900 are waiting
00:24:04.380 to wind their way
00:24:05.260 through the court system
00:24:06.080 and I'm very optimistic
00:24:07.660 about those
00:24:08.200 but things that are
00:24:09.380 are going ahead
00:24:10.440 they haven't lost
00:24:11.480 a single one yet.
00:24:12.260 Well I'm thrilled
00:24:13.300 to hear that
00:24:14.120 now I know
00:24:15.620 you've been just
00:24:16.320 looking into
00:24:16.880 some of these cases
00:24:17.660 the good news
00:24:18.320 Leighton Gray
00:24:19.020 QC
00:24:19.720 senior lawyer
00:24:20.560 in Cold Lake
00:24:21.320 good guy
00:24:21.820 we've interviewed him
00:24:22.660 on our show
00:24:23.720 here once
00:24:24.460 and I know
00:24:24.980 you're sort of
00:24:25.780 chummy with him
00:24:26.340 I'm very pleased
00:24:27.960 he's a very senior
00:24:29.040 counsel
00:24:29.440 the QC
00:24:30.320 if you ever see that
00:24:31.780 after a lawyer's name
00:24:32.680 that stands for
00:24:33.320 Queen's Counsel
00:24:34.240 that's something
00:24:35.320 that only very senior
00:24:36.640 and accomplished
00:24:37.420 lawyers get
00:24:38.280 it's like
00:24:38.740 it's sort of like
00:24:40.420 oh I don't know
00:24:42.340 the Order of Canada
00:24:43.540 but for lawyers
00:24:44.500 so to have a lawyer
00:24:45.500 of his stature
00:24:46.220 on the case
00:24:46.720 I'm not surprised
00:24:47.420 he's just crushing it
00:24:49.360 on the cases
00:24:50.480 can you give us
00:24:51.460 any details
00:24:52.080 what are the
00:24:52.820 is it just the prosecutors
00:24:55.460 abandoning the cases
00:24:56.860 is the police
00:24:58.500 withdrawing the tickets
00:24:59.500 is there
00:24:59.940 do you know
00:25:00.500 is there a particular reason
00:25:01.920 sometimes just lawyering up
00:25:04.780 is enough to make
00:25:06.180 the prosecutor say
00:25:07.080 oh I thought this was
00:25:08.020 going to be a slam dunk
00:25:09.040 you got Leighton Gray
00:25:10.760 on the other side
00:25:11.520 I don't want to spend
00:25:12.440 50 hours
00:25:13.420 chasing a guy
00:25:14.580 who didn't wear a mask
00:25:15.520 so sometimes
00:25:16.180 it's just if you growl
00:25:18.300 loud enough
00:25:20.660 you know
00:25:22.360 but do you know
00:25:24.000 what it was
00:25:24.600 that gave us
00:25:25.680 these wins
00:25:26.240 yeah it sounds like
00:25:27.800 the prosecutors
00:25:28.300 are just withdrawing
00:25:29.460 the tickets
00:25:29.960 because they are
00:25:30.840 realizing that
00:25:31.700 oh I'm on the other
00:25:33.340 side of this
00:25:34.160 from Leighton Gray
00:25:35.440 and Leighton Gray
00:25:36.140 has a history
00:25:36.800 of fighting for
00:25:37.540 the underdog
00:25:38.180 and fighting
00:25:38.700 for the little guy
00:25:39.720 he was involved
00:25:42.020 in suing the government
00:25:44.100 on behalf of
00:25:45.860 Indian day school
00:25:47.460 survivors
00:25:48.080 so he's a guy
00:25:49.200 who cares deeply
00:25:50.040 about helping
00:25:50.880 some but
00:25:51.400 helping people
00:25:52.560 who normally
00:25:53.140 don't have access
00:25:54.100 to the legal system
00:25:55.200 and so a lot
00:25:55.960 of the prosecutors
00:25:57.300 are just
00:25:57.860 withdrawing the tickets
00:25:59.360 once it gets
00:25:59.920 to a certain point
00:26:00.720 once they realize
00:26:01.460 not only do I have
00:26:02.860 to face off
00:26:03.420 against Leighton Gray
00:26:04.360 but his entire
00:26:05.080 legal team
00:26:05.840 and much of that
00:26:07.680 is happening
00:26:08.140 in Alberta
00:26:08.680 here with Chad
00:26:10.080 Williamson
00:26:10.620 Chad Williamson
00:26:11.340 is the perfect
00:26:11.840 fight the fines
00:26:12.440 lawyer
00:26:12.720 he's kind of
00:26:13.400 a bit of a cowboy
00:26:14.160 and he's a true
00:26:16.100 believer in freedom
00:26:17.020 likewise with
00:26:18.100 Sarah Miller
00:26:18.800 Sarah Miller
00:26:20.020 took on our
00:26:20.660 very first
00:26:21.720 fight the fines
00:26:22.820 case
00:26:23.240 that was
00:26:23.840 Pastor Art
00:26:24.680 Poloski
00:26:25.180 Art Poloski
00:26:25.920 has become
00:26:26.460 Sarah Miller's
00:26:27.180 I guess
00:26:27.700 at this point
00:26:28.340 full-time job
00:26:29.620 but besides
00:26:31.400 the big
00:26:32.120 Art Poloski
00:26:33.340 fights
00:26:33.960 you know
00:26:35.500 basically
00:26:36.040 keeping him
00:26:36.640 out of jail
00:26:37.140 on a day-to-day
00:26:37.860 basis
00:26:38.240 she took on
00:26:39.340 his early
00:26:40.000 fight the fines
00:26:40.720 tickets
00:26:41.140 and she was
00:26:42.880 getting them
00:26:43.420 kicked out of
00:26:44.000 court
00:26:44.340 as quickly
00:26:45.060 as he was
00:26:45.560 getting them
00:26:46.020 when he was
00:26:46.600 getting tickets
00:26:47.120 for feeding
00:26:47.540 the homeless
00:26:48.000 in downtown
00:26:48.520 Calgary
00:26:48.960 on bitterly
00:26:49.540 cold days
00:26:50.040 and refusing
00:26:51.660 to stop
00:26:52.320 so he was
00:26:52.960 accumulating
00:26:53.760 the tickets
00:26:54.360 Sarah was
00:26:55.160 fighting every
00:26:55.940 single one
00:26:56.380 of those
00:26:56.660 tickets
00:26:57.060 like it was
00:26:57.800 the most
00:26:58.140 important thing
00:26:58.700 in front of
00:26:59.140 her
00:26:59.620 and she
00:27:00.020 rescued
00:27:01.920 Pastor Art
00:27:02.540 from thousands
00:27:03.260 of dollars
00:27:03.880 in tickets
00:27:04.520 yeah
00:27:04.920 you know
00:27:05.640 you've mentioned
00:27:07.640 three lawyers
00:27:08.440 that I've had
00:27:09.080 the pleasure
00:27:09.540 of dealing
00:27:10.200 with at least
00:27:10.680 even briefly
00:27:11.300 I know
00:27:11.700 Sarah the best
00:27:12.440 out of the
00:27:12.840 three names
00:27:13.260 you've mentioned
00:27:13.720 and I think
00:27:15.240 I mean
00:27:15.640 I think
00:27:15.960 they're all
00:27:16.260 great lawyers
00:27:16.780 I have not
00:27:17.680 even met
00:27:19.220 all 21
00:27:20.000 of our lawyers
00:27:20.600 obviously
00:27:20.940 we have a
00:27:22.700 full-time
00:27:23.080 legal coordinator
00:27:23.840 who's been
00:27:24.420 on this show
00:27:25.120 a few times
00:27:25.640 Victoria Solomon
00:27:26.380 so and we've
00:27:27.460 got I think
00:27:28.260 three paralegals
00:27:29.980 just to manage
00:27:30.880 the 2200 cases
00:27:31.700 so she would
00:27:32.900 know them all
00:27:33.520 but it's not
00:27:35.400 just that Leighton
00:27:36.100 Gray and Sarah
00:27:36.860 Miller and Chad
00:27:37.600 Williamson are
00:27:38.120 good lawyers
00:27:38.640 it's that
00:27:39.640 if there was
00:27:41.540 if the first
00:27:42.400 mask case
00:27:43.760 or social
00:27:44.420 gathering
00:27:45.060 distancing case
00:27:46.380 goes to court
00:27:47.260 and you have
00:27:48.740 an excellent
00:27:49.440 lawyer
00:27:49.920 who has
00:27:50.920 good legal
00:27:52.240 research
00:27:52.840 has all the
00:27:53.840 case law
00:27:54.480 on their side
00:27:55.220 has done
00:27:55.660 their homework
00:27:56.180 and is making
00:27:56.980 the best
00:27:57.420 arguments
00:27:57.940 and isn't
00:27:58.860 forgetting
00:27:59.400 little things
00:28:00.200 if the first
00:28:01.320 test
00:28:02.200 has an
00:28:04.240 excellent
00:28:04.740 lawyer on
00:28:05.460 it
00:28:05.620 the government
00:28:07.160 risks
00:28:07.840 having a
00:28:09.520 precedent set
00:28:10.640 that will then
00:28:11.620 cast a shadow
00:28:12.380 over the other
00:28:13.000 thousands of
00:28:13.680 cases
00:28:14.060 so my
00:28:15.420 guess
00:28:15.980 is if the
00:28:17.080 government
00:28:17.480 is going to
00:28:18.120 proceed
00:28:18.620 they're going
00:28:19.440 to proceed
00:28:19.880 against
00:28:20.300 unrepresented
00:28:21.460 clients
00:28:22.160 like someone
00:28:23.000 who's just
00:28:23.380 in court
00:28:23.740 by themselves
00:28:24.220 or someone
00:28:25.200 with sort
00:28:25.580 of a goofy
00:28:26.040 or half
00:28:27.140 baked
00:28:27.540 legal case
00:28:29.160 and that's
00:28:30.060 one of the
00:28:30.400 reasons I'm
00:28:31.020 critical
00:28:31.480 of these
00:28:32.440 homemade
00:28:32.880 lawyering ideas
00:28:33.780 like we saw
00:28:34.300 Patrick King
00:28:34.960 a guy from
00:28:35.480 Red Year
00:28:35.800 say oh I
00:28:36.360 found the
00:28:36.780 secret weapon
00:28:37.320 no you
00:28:37.980 didn't mate
00:28:38.560 and you
00:28:39.140 actually lost
00:28:39.940 and I don't
00:28:40.920 want people
00:28:41.420 to go to
00:28:41.960 court either
00:28:42.560 half baked
00:28:44.260 or with no
00:28:45.040 lawyer
00:28:45.700 because
00:28:46.360 we don't
00:28:48.040 want the
00:28:48.460 first case
00:28:49.100 we don't
00:28:50.080 want a
00:28:50.320 conviction
00:28:50.760 to set a
00:28:51.480 precedent
00:28:51.900 we want to
00:28:52.960 set a precedent
00:28:53.640 of acquittal
00:28:54.580 for charter
00:28:55.640 reasons
00:28:56.100 or other
00:28:56.480 reasons
00:28:56.820 so anyway
00:28:57.420 I'm pleased
00:28:59.720 to hear
00:29:00.020 so how many
00:29:00.700 cases are you
00:29:01.120 working on
00:29:01.520 right now
00:29:01.860 was it three
00:29:03.080 I heard
00:29:03.460 that were
00:29:03.760 just acquitted
00:29:04.460 I've got
00:29:05.920 three that
00:29:06.480 just came
00:29:06.940 in over
00:29:07.320 the last
00:29:07.980 I guess
00:29:09.720 day and a
00:29:10.260 half
00:29:10.520 victories
00:29:11.040 out of
00:29:11.420 Manitoba
00:29:11.900 but I've
00:29:12.340 got you
00:29:12.920 know
00:29:13.120 a dozen
00:29:14.500 probably
00:29:15.060 fight the
00:29:15.540 fines
00:29:15.800 cases
00:29:16.260 that are
00:29:17.340 currently
00:29:17.580 sitting on
00:29:18.020 my desktop
00:29:18.500 that I'm
00:29:19.100 working on
00:29:19.920 and coordinating
00:29:20.460 with the
00:29:20.880 lawyers
00:29:21.180 to try
00:29:22.100 to package
00:29:22.500 up those
00:29:22.880 cases
00:29:23.200 and get
00:29:23.540 them out
00:29:23.780 the door
00:29:24.080 so that
00:29:24.420 everybody
00:29:24.720 can see
00:29:25.280 the good
00:29:25.620 work
00:29:25.880 that they've
00:29:27.240 contributed
00:29:27.800 to through
00:29:29.140 fight the
00:29:29.540 fines
00:29:29.780 that's another
00:29:30.460 reason why I love
00:29:31.180 fight the fines
00:29:31.900 is because there
00:29:32.840 are people out
00:29:33.360 there who really
00:29:33.960 want to get
00:29:34.380 involved in the
00:29:35.060 fight for freedom
00:29:35.740 but they can't
00:29:36.560 always go to a
00:29:37.540 protest or maybe
00:29:38.680 they don't
00:29:39.200 they have
00:29:39.560 they can't
00:29:41.460 have their name
00:29:42.080 attached to a
00:29:43.080 ticket or a
00:29:44.340 fight or something
00:29:44.880 but they can
00:29:45.640 donate to
00:29:46.140 fight the fines
00:29:46.740 dot com
00:29:47.360 through the
00:29:48.380 democracy fund
00:29:49.160 they can get
00:29:49.600 a charitable
00:29:50.000 tax receipt
00:29:50.720 for that
00:29:51.200 and they can
00:29:51.920 really help
00:29:52.500 people who are
00:29:53.160 being hammered
00:29:53.800 with these
00:29:54.160 lockdown tickets
00:29:55.060 one of the
00:29:56.360 and you know
00:29:57.260 before we go
00:29:57.980 on I just
00:29:58.760 want to point
00:29:59.400 out another
00:29:59.940 really big
00:30:00.620 victory that
00:30:01.400 I think
00:30:03.140 we should all
00:30:04.760 be really proud
00:30:05.440 of and that's
00:30:05.940 the case of
00:30:06.360 the full gospel
00:30:07.060 outreach center
00:30:07.940 in Prince Albert
00:30:09.060 Saskatchewan
00:30:09.800 the poorest church
00:30:11.200 that I have
00:30:11.720 ever seen
00:30:12.260 and I want to
00:30:12.980 stress that
00:30:13.660 because I've
00:30:14.220 been to northern
00:30:14.880 Iraq where the
00:30:15.740 churches are
00:30:16.240 bummed out
00:30:16.820 doing literally
00:30:18.340 the Lord's
00:30:18.980 work ministering
00:30:19.740 to the
00:30:19.960 homeless in
00:30:20.440 downtown Prince
00:30:21.680 Albert the
00:30:22.660 drug addicted
00:30:23.320 the least of
00:30:24.160 us they were
00:30:25.360 slapped with a
00:30:25.900 fourteen thousand
00:30:26.540 dollar lockdown
00:30:27.140 ticket for not
00:30:27.900 making the people
00:30:28.840 in their church
00:30:29.780 sing with masks
00:30:31.140 on these are
00:30:31.680 people who are
00:30:32.480 you know in
00:30:33.400 precarious housing
00:30:34.920 situations sometimes
00:30:36.040 homeless sometimes
00:30:37.320 not and the
00:30:38.740 government wanted
00:30:39.320 them to wear
00:30:39.840 masks when they
00:30:41.000 don't even sleep
00:30:41.680 indoors sometimes
00:30:43.000 they got a
00:30:43.680 fourteen thousand
00:30:44.300 dollar lockdown
00:30:44.880 ticket we took
00:30:45.820 that on we
00:30:46.460 lawyered them up
00:30:47.100 right away and
00:30:48.240 it got to the
00:30:49.060 point exactly
00:30:50.780 that you point
00:30:51.460 out Ezra where
00:30:52.580 the government
00:30:54.600 has to make a
00:30:55.580 decision whether
00:30:56.180 they're willing to
00:30:56.960 lose this ticket
00:30:57.800 and set a precedent
00:30:58.760 or withdraw it
00:30:59.940 and they withdrew it
00:31:01.340 and we saved them
00:31:02.560 from that fourteen
00:31:03.340 thousand dollar
00:31:03.940 ticket fourteen
00:31:04.520 thousand dollars
00:31:05.240 just incredible
00:31:05.980 well that's great
00:31:08.520 thank you for the
00:31:09.220 update and I just
00:31:09.960 want to say one
00:31:10.560 point and it's a
00:31:11.280 technical point I
00:31:11.980 don't think most
00:31:12.440 people would care
00:31:13.100 but as you
00:31:14.940 mentioned fight
00:31:16.200 the fines
00:31:16.760 project we
00:31:18.140 started a year
00:31:18.820 and a half
00:31:19.160 ago but the
00:31:19.780 democracy fund
00:31:20.680 a registered
00:31:21.500 CRA compliant
00:31:23.100 charity is now
00:31:24.860 funding the
00:31:25.600 project so when
00:31:26.880 you donate at
00:31:27.720 fight the fines
00:31:28.360 dot com at that
00:31:29.020 website the money
00:31:30.200 does not go to
00:31:31.000 rebel news it
00:31:31.560 actually goes to
00:31:32.440 the democracy
00:31:33.120 fund and then
00:31:34.860 the democracy
00:31:35.480 fund gives that
00:31:36.340 money directly to
00:31:37.920 the lawyers there
00:31:39.000 is no overhead
00:31:39.760 there's there's
00:31:40.800 you know I
00:31:42.360 mean the only
00:31:43.560 people who work
00:31:44.500 for the democracy
00:31:45.080 fund are the
00:31:46.040 lawyers and the
00:31:46.600 paralegals there's
00:31:47.320 no other salaries
00:31:48.280 there are other
00:31:48.980 costs other than
00:31:51.020 what's going to
00:31:51.700 this project and
00:31:53.320 you get a
00:31:54.380 charitable tax
00:31:55.300 receipt which
00:31:55.820 helps you at
00:31:56.240 tax time and I
00:31:58.340 think that's one
00:31:58.940 reason this has
00:31:59.560 been so successful
00:32:00.360 because people can
00:32:01.220 donate a little
00:32:02.560 more than otherwise
00:32:03.880 because it comes
00:32:04.660 off their taxes I
00:32:05.400 feel really good
00:32:06.080 about this and I
00:32:07.160 think fight the
00:32:08.140 fines dot com is
00:32:08.900 actually
00:32:09.760 the largest civil
00:32:10.940 liberties project in
00:32:11.940 Canada measured by
00:32:12.820 clients and and
00:32:14.580 lawyers I think it
00:32:15.400 just is we got to
00:32:16.440 go Sheila we got to
00:32:17.280 run great to see you
00:32:18.480 thanks for fighting
00:32:19.320 the fines and for
00:32:21.140 everyone out there
00:32:21.740 who's been donating
00:32:22.620 I think you can see
00:32:23.780 the fruits of your
00:32:24.620 of your generosity so
00:32:25.800 thanks for that
00:32:26.320 Sheila have a great
00:32:27.060 weekend
00:32:27.400 you too boss
00:32:28.800 all right cheers
00:32:29.840 stay with us more
00:32:30.780 ahead
00:32:30.960 well the first week of
00:32:44.020 the federal election is
00:32:45.280 over it's very
00:32:46.140 interesting to me it's
00:32:48.340 depressing to me because
00:32:50.160 I don't see a lot of
00:32:51.720 difference between the
00:32:52.920 liberals and the
00:32:53.460 conservatives we've
00:32:54.860 asked Aaron O'Toole and
00:32:56.540 he won't answer us we
00:32:57.580 were 10 feet away from
00:32:59.140 him and asked him and
00:32:59.800 he just walked by
00:33:00.360 silently if he thinks
00:33:02.800 that vaccine passports
00:33:03.880 should be a temporary
00:33:05.080 measure he wouldn't say
00:33:06.220 that they were he's not
00:33:07.660 opposed to vaccine
00:33:08.880 passports he mumbled
00:33:10.180 something about maybe
00:33:11.160 there being some
00:33:11.840 exemptions but he's
00:33:13.320 fine with vaccine
00:33:14.800 passports he's fine
00:33:16.300 with the lockdowns I
00:33:18.120 really don't see a lot
00:33:19.120 of difference between
00:33:19.880 him and the liberals and
00:33:20.700 it's interesting that
00:33:21.900 their chief angle attack
00:33:23.320 on him is abortion
00:33:25.140 which is classic
00:33:26.760 liberal but it
00:33:28.380 made me think if
00:33:29.060 you're pro-choice as
00:33:30.560 liberals say they are
00:33:31.560 and believe that
00:33:32.920 doctors don't have
00:33:34.180 shouldn't be gatekeepers
00:33:36.100 for women who want
00:33:37.080 abortions between a
00:33:38.700 woman and her
00:33:39.980 conscience or whatever
00:33:41.080 why is my body my
00:33:43.680 choice pro-choiceness
00:33:45.000 why doesn't that apply
00:33:46.660 to these experimental
00:33:48.160 vaccines I wonder if
00:33:50.280 any media will ask
00:33:51.420 liberals that or if
00:33:52.260 they're just too much
00:33:53.720 on the gravy train
00:33:54.880 that's our show for
00:33:56.400 today until next time
00:33:58.040 on behalf of all of us
00:33:59.000 here at rebel world
00:33:59.740 headquarters to you at
00:34:00.600 home good night keep
00:34:02.100 fighting for freedom