EZRA LEVANT ｜ I see some early warning signs that things are about to get worse
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In fact, today I see a few things converging that tell me maybe things are going to get worse. And I don t want to be a pessimist. I like being hopeful. But I will take you through a few observations that suggest they want to put us back in a lockdown this fall.
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Hello, my friends. I had a great trip to Calgary. I was very happy to travel again,
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happy to be that fairly free city. I'm back in Toronto now. And I'm thinking that, you know,
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just because I was personally happy to fly doesn't mean that the world is getting better. In fact,
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today, I see a few things converging that tell me maybe things are going to get worse. And I don't
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want to be a pessimist. I like being hopeful. But I will take you through a few observations that
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suggest they want to put us back in a lockdown this fall. I'll take you through the evidence.
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Tonight, I see some early warning signs that things are,
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going to get worse. It's June 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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I'm back in Toronto after a few days in Calgary. I met our team out there.
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I hadn't even met some of those folks ever because they were hired during the pandemic. And of course,
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most of our people, including me, couldn't travel over the past year. I liked meeting them in person,
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and I'll have some news in the weeks ahead about our plans for a permanent Calgary office. We've
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been renting a temporary space there for a little while. I like our Calgary team and our Vancouverites
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and Edmontonians came into town for the day too. And we went out for a bite of dinner together again,
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something that we wouldn't have been able to do during the worst of the bigoted lockdown. I say
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bigoted because there was no science to it. It was perfectly punitive. I'll give you an example.
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I was talking at some length with an Air Canada employee on the journey. I hadn't seen any Air Canada
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folks in over a year. And I recognized this old fella from when I used to travel back in the day.
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And I was asking him what it's like to work there these days. We talked a bit about the recent
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airport meltdown, especially in Toronto, Montreal. And while some of that is indeed on the airlines,
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most of it absolutely is at the hands of the government, which thought you could turn airports
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into massive healthcare inspection and punishment facilities without affecting the logistics of the
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industry. We truly have the stupidest people in government. Here's the hapless minister blaming
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everybody but himself. On our end, we have done everything we can that is within the control of
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the federal government. Now we need to work with airlines and airports at dealing with the flight
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delays and luggage handling issues because we need the cooperation of airlines and airports to address
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these issues. Anyways, put aside the current airport meltdowns, I was talking to this gate
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agent about the extremely limited exceptions there were for letting unvaxxed people fly on planes the
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past year. Planes, by the way, have some of the best air circulation anywhere, as you could probably
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guess. I mean, it's easy to get a stream of fresh, cool air when you're flying at 500 miles an hour,
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five miles up. Great ventilation. Don't take it from me. In fact, no one less than Teresa Tam herself
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said that transmission in a plane is extremely rare but Trudeau banned the unvaxxed from planes
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though he permitted them to take the same journeys at a fraction of the speed on buses. Riddle me that
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one. But here's what this Air Canada staffer pointed out. There were extremely limited exemptions
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for medical reasons. So Air Canada actually had a team of doctors whose job was really to reject
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exemptions. A history of anaphylactic shock, in fact, was not even enough, for example. And extremely
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limited religious exemptions. I'd be surprised if there were a grand total of 100 exemptions granted
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by Air Canada in the entire country. But here's what this Air Canada staffer told me. There were no
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compassionate grounds for exemptions. So for example, if your parent was dying and you want to get to the
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deathbed or had died and you wanted to get to the funeral, tough luck. You couldn't fly to say your
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final goodbyes or to bury them. No compassionate exemptions were allowed. But here's the thing.
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Even if you were a conscientious objector to the vaccine, but you said, look, this is awful,
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but I want to be beside my dying wife in her final moments. Fine. This is extortion, but fine. I'll get
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the jab. Just let me on the plane. Well, sorry, it wouldn't work because Air Canada and the other
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airlines were forced by the government to make you have both jabs. And I think the rule was 14 days
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apart. So there literally was no way to comply, even if you surrendered your conscience to Trudeau.
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Too bad. Unless you had a time machine to go back in time to take the two jabs two weeks before you
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found out your family member was dying, no luck. So it was purely vengeance and punishment. It was a
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way of rubbing your nose in it that you dared to defy Trudeau. Now enjoy a personal pain that you'll
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carry with you for the rest of your life. No science. Just Trudeau's political bullying with the support of
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entire establishment. And this Air Canada staffer told me it was his job to tell people who were
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grieving that they could not get on the plane, even if they took the jab. That was his job. Imagine
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having that job. It was a bit of a downer, frankly, but I was happy to travel again despite delays both
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coming and going to Calgary. But you can make a mistake in life by assuming that what you see is
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what the world is. That if it's not in your field of vision, it's not happening. Solipsism
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is a word for that. So while I was happy to travel again and happy to be back to the fairly free city
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of Calgary, and perhaps that might make me hopeful. Perhaps I put a spring in my step, but I have to temper
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that self-centered happiness with other observations. I won't repeat my remarks from
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earlier this week about the triple setback, the arrest of Tamara Leach for silently posting
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this selfie. I mean, she's not even talking in it clearly. She's just smiling. That selfie is why
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she was arrested. The sentencing of an Edmonton church to $80,000 in lockdown fines. We'll talk to
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Sheila Gunn-Reed later in the show about that. And this commission of inquiry that our friend
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Dre Humphrey is covering about the commission of the RCMP and her corruption there. Three pieces
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of bad news all at once, but let me show you some other things to keep in mind. Here's why I have a
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nagging pessimism under my happiness. I opened Twitter today, which lets you curate your own news
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sources, right? You can choose who to follow on Twitter. That's why it's so much fun. You can follow
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all conservatives, if you like, or all liberals, or a mix of both. I like to see what the other side
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is saying. Or none. You could just go, no politicians at all, just sports or entertainment.
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But Twitter, more and more, takes a heavy hand. Remember, that's what their new CEO, Parag Agarwal,
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said. They want to steer your attention towards certain stories and away from other stories.
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That's a hidden kind of censorship and propaganda, isn't it? So you can curate your own news, but they
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push you there. So I opened Twitter today, and I saw this. They were pushing a story from the Globe and
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Mail very hard. They were suggesting it to everyone. Fears of a COVID-19 summer surge
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prompt experts to call for a return to masking. Experts say, please don't use that word with me
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ever again. Has there been anyone more debased and debunked this past year than experts? I'll read a bit
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from the story. It's time to bring back indoor mask wearing requirements, some health professionals
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say, amid concerns of a potential surge in COVID-19 cases this summer. In fact, according to Alberta
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emergency physician Chuck Worcester, public health authorities across the country dropped the mandate
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prematurely. There wasn't any indication that it was safe to do that, Dr. Worcester said, pointing to the
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influx of COVID-19 patients. He has seen in the emergency department as never really having stopped.
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Masks should always be the first thing that we use and the last thing we get rid of.
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So they're priming the pump. They're getting you ready. They're starting to make you psychologically
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prepared. This is one of Canada's largest newspapers. It certainly is the official newspaper of the
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establishment of the insider elites. It's owned by Canada's richest man. The oligarch,
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David Thompson, he's worth 50 billion U.S. The establishment is calling. They want their
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lockdowns back. Say, who is this Chuck Worcester? They call him an emergency physician. They call him
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an expert. I'm sure he is a physician, but is that really the most important thing to know about him
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when we're deciding to obey him or not? I mean, it could be, but I think his relentless,
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half-crazed Twitter page is actually more illuminating. I mean, he is an unhinged partisan.
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Thousands and thousands of tweets comparing conservatives to Nazis. He's an ideological
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extremist. He regularly bashes any partisan conservative, from Jason Kenney, the premier,
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to Pierre Pauly, usually with childish insults. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.
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I'm just saying for the Globe and Mail to call him a medical expert without pointing out that he's,
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in fact, a radical political activist and advocate. Well, it's a little bit misleading,
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isn't it? They put him up as a scientist. The guy's a ranting pundit. The article isn't that
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interesting to be candid. It's just some celebrity doctors who clearly miss being celebrity doctors
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on TV because their 15 minutes of fame or 15 months of fame are up. They loved the pandemic
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with all their hearts. They were important. They were political bosses without the bother of an
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election, without an opposition, without accountability. What's not to love? Most of them
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had huge pay raises, huge social prestige raises. They want that back. But the fact that Twitter was
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promoting this story all day seemed odd to me, except as a premonition, they are not done with
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us yet. Remember when the Liberals said they were changing the definition of fully vaccinated from
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two shots to an indefinite number, just up to date? We have considered all options, and we will keep
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considering all options as we keep protecting the health and safety of Canadians. That's what they ask of
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us. That's what we'll keep doing. And according to what public health experts have told us, internally,
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and as you heard Dr. Tam say publicly on Friday, we now need to transition. We transition to an up-to-date
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status, which for most adults means a third dose. There are approximately 60% of adults in Canada that
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have a third dose. We need to move that up significantly, at least to what we have had for the last few months,
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in terms of second doses. Yeah, why would they do that? Why would they change the definition now that
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the mandates are over? I mean, why would it matter what the number is if nothing hangs on it? I mean,
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they're not going to use that number, right? Well, maybe they are going to use that number again. Maybe
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they're going to say, we have the 20th wave of the virus, the omega variant, so we need a new dose
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of the vaccine. I mean, Trudeau literally bought 400 million doses. That's more than 10 doses for
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every man, woman, child, and baby in the country. He kept the contracts secret. I bet he spent $20
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billion on that. We know he gave Pfizer and Moderna immunity from lawsuits for any harm
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done to Canadians. If you bought 400 million doses like a fool, you'd probably want to use them
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to avoid looking like a fool. As in, you could say, well, you see, we needed them, aren't I wise,
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as opposed to, gee, we didn't need them after all. Sorry for the money. A new definition of fully
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vaccinated to being up to date with the current day, 400 million doses, a new media campaign
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by wild celebrity doctors, the re-arrest of the trucker grandma to Merrill Leach, the lockdown of
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Ottawa, like a prison city because they're worried about a Canada Day freedom rally,
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so they're literally shutting down Parliament Hill for all Canadians. That's a bit crazy.
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I don't know if you saw this in the Ottawa Citizen. They're out of control. The police chief in Ottawa,
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he says he plans to arrest anyone with a sign that is racist or sexist. Now, we don't like racism or
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sexism, but it's not a crime to be racist or sexist. Otherwise, our black-based prime minister
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would be in prison if it was. So, get ready for more abusive policing. The chief has summoned it.
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But I'm worried about all this converging. Remember, most of the laws that were used to put us in the
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lockdown remain on the books. We are still in a pandemic emergency. That's the only legal basis for
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people to take a drug that is not fully tested. It's called the Emergency Use Authorization.
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It's what it's called in America, a similar thing up here. That's the machinery. We're in an emergency.
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Here's a small example. A few weeks ago, Trudeau cut one bizarre and unscientific piece of red tape
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for airports. If you were flying into Canada for the last year, which would have meant you were
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vaccinated already, they still pulled aside a random sample of people and made them take a COVID test.
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What? They've already, they just got off the plane. So, what are you doing? And they're vaccinated.
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Where's the signs? What even is that besides some make work project? Well, imagine what that would have
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done to travel logistics at airports. Anyways, after the airport meltdown, like I say, a few weeks ago,
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they cut that one piece of red tape, but they didn't cancel it. They just suspended it temporarily.
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Here's a story in Reuters. The random testing will be continued from Saturday and will resume off-site
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on July 1st, the statement said. Oh, so they're bringing it back. They're not done yet. They actually
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abandoned it, but they're going to bring it back. They're ramping up the call for masks. They bought
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400 million doses of meds. They're bringing in more flight rules, not fewer. They're arresting peaceful
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protesters again. They're prosecuting, not pardoning people who broke some lockdown rule a year or two
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ago. My friends, I don't think they are done with this yet. They missed the lockdowns. They missed the
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drama. They didn't miss the power. They missed the sense of purpose it gave them because they didn't
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suffer. Only you did. If they bring back the lockdowns, what will you do? Stay with us for more.
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Well, I note that in the United States, very early on, different state governors saw that local police
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forces were getting a little too exuberant with their crackdowns on churches, on small business
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people. I remember in particular, one case in Texas of a hair salon owner, so desperate that
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her company would be destroyed by the lockdown. She opened in defiance of the law. The governor saw
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that, stayed the prosecution of her case. And in fact, in states like Florida and Texas, there was a
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blanket amnesty, a stay of all prosecutions, and a vacating of any fines or other punishments.
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Basically, those governors said, we're not going to punish people. And any little official, any cop,
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any local busybody who's going to try and chase someone down, I'm just in advance pardoning them.
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That put a stop to it because they wanted to put a stop to it. And I refer to pretty much every single
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jurisdiction in Canada where tickets that were issued up to two years ago are still making their way through
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the courts, with police coming as witnesses, with government lawyers as prosecutors, with government
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judges judging them. There's no end to them. And even though some of them have aged out, I mean,
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typically if you're charged with an event and you're not prosecuted within two years, the charter says
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that you didn't have a speedy trial. There have been cases where violent criminals have had the case
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against them stayed for want of prosecution. I haven't heard much of that in Canada. And one of
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the worst cases is in the province that claims, as its motto, strong and free. I'm talking about the
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province of Alberta, where some of the most brutal lockdowns and persecutions of the lockdowns
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has happened. A church in northern Alberta was prosecuted and was in court very recently
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for not causing COVID, not failing an inspection, but rather for asking the health inspectors to come
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back, just not at the exact moment when the church was in service. Joining us to tell the story and what
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the judge said is our friend and chief reporter, Sheila Gunnery, who joins us now from Edmonton. Sheila,
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great to see you again. You were at the trial of Church on the Vine, Church in the Vine. The trial
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is actually over. They were convicted. You were at the sentencing hearing for a church. You don't hear
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those words very often. Tell us what it was like. Well, it's bizarre because, as you say, you don't
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experience this and you never would think that you would experience this, particularly in Alberta,
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about Church in the Vine. Yesterday morning was their sentencing hearing. They were previously
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convicted. The church as an entity and the pastor, Pastor Tracy Fortin, were convicted of three counts
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of obstructing a public health officer. Now, that's particularly noteworthy because Church in the Vine
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has never been accused nor convicted of violating a public health order. They've never been accused of
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COVID noncompliance. What happened here is the health inspectors and the police, who were part of this
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hunter-killer task force directed at churches, they would come week after week and barge into the church
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and interrupt the church while the little ones were in Sunday school, while people were reading their
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Bibles. At one point, while Pastor Rodney Fortin, Pastor Tracy's husband, was on the pulpit preaching,
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the health inspector said she tried to talk to him while he was giving services. Oh, my God.
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So, Pastor Tracy said, this is crazy. You're not coming in here anymore. Now, she's the nicest,
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sweetest woman you'll ever meet in your life. Not violent, not rude, not anything like that. But she just said,
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you can come back, just not while we're preaching. We'll happily take whatever time you need to walk
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you through all of our processes, but you're not coming in during church services. So, week after
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week, Tracy would sit at the front and turn the health inspector away and say, just come back at a
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different time. You're not going to run around here like a bunch of lemmings with your clipboards
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in the Sunday school. It's not happening. For that, they were convicted of three counts of obstructing a
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health officer. And yesterday, they were fined $80,000. So, church fines plus victim surcharges.
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Who's the victim here, by the way? The province? Yeah. Of a total of $80,000.
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You know, I used to be a lawyer. I used to be involved in criminal law matters. Sometimes the
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criminal code or another law says a punishment of up to, let's say, two years in jail or $25,000
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fine. And what actually happens in practice, especially for a first offense, is no jail time.
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And if there was a $25,000 specified penalty, you know, maybe it's a $500 fine. I just, in fact,
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I mean, it's been a while since I practiced law, but you don't have to be a practicing lawyer to know
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that for a first offense at anything, where there's no violence, where there's no harm or malice,
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often there is no penalty at all. No penalty at all. For this judge, at the behest of Jason
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Kenney's health cops and Jason Kenney's secret prosecutor, I understand from your tweeting,
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that the prosecutor said she didn't want her name spoken in public like she was some gangland
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prosecutor. By the way, what is her name? Her name is Karen Thorsrud, and she's also the
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one behind the prosecution of James Coates. So she is also part of this hunter-killer task force
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directed at Christians, not just the religious community, but moreover, specifically Christians
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in Alberta. She's the one behind that. So I understand why she doesn't want her name
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used in open court, but there is no publication ban on her name. It's just for her own comfort.
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So that's why I'm using her name. She's such a bigot. I mean, imagine having, imagine saying,
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I want to go to law school and I want to join the Justice Department. Why? Do you want to put
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away bad guys? Do you want to take on murderers and robbers and kidnappers? No, I want to go around
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Alberta prosecuting Christians. Hey, when you're done your tour of duty in Alberta, I bet you China
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or Iran or North Korea could hire you for your expertise and your track record to shut down those
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house churches there, except for I don't think they would have $80,000 penalties for a first
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offense. That's super gross. Now, James Kitchen is the lawyer who's fighting this. I understand he's
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going to appeal. Is that right? Yeah. So James Kitchen has been helping the church in the vine since
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the very beginning. They became a democracy fund case. If people want to donate to offset their legal
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fees, it's at savepastortracey.com and donations, there are tax deductible, but we're not done with
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this yet because they're appealing the conviction and they're trying to stay the fines in advance of
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the outcome of that appeal. So they have until the end of August to come up with $80,000 in fines
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or the province wants civil enforcement. That means taking their house, taking their car,
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maybe taking their church building, maybe taking the sound system out of the church. We don't know
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what civil enforcement will look like, but the province wants their pound of flesh from this
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church for simply protecting their congregation. I've never heard of anything so gross. And again,
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when it comes to civil enforcement, you don't have to be a practicing lawyer to know
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how gross that is. There's certain exemptions. You can't take away someone's business tools to make
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a living. Imagine going into a church and they, for all we know, they might seize the church and
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expropriate it. Not the first time. Not the first time. That's what Jason Kenney did to the Grace Life
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Church. He turned into a police outpost and put the latrines right on the steps of the church just to
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show that he was physically and morally shitting on the church. Sorry to swear. Super gross.
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I got a question for you. I mean, an $80,000 fine, it's got to be coming close to a record in Canada
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for a lockdown fine. I mean, I heard rumors that there was a fine out there somewhere that was in
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six figures, but it's not coming to mind right now. This may well be the biggest fine there is.
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And it's not to some mega corporation. It's to a church. And it's not for breaking a health order.
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It's just for telling the little inspector Stassi to come back when things weren't underway. Was there
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a single other reporter that you saw either covering the trial or reporting about it from
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long distance? A single other reporter? Not one. In fact, CBC finally caught up to my reporting when
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the church was convicted about 10 days later. And they found out from trolling Pastor Tracy's Facebook
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page. And I think they even published a picture of me that was taken with Church in the Vines calling
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me an unidentified woman. They copy your story and then they call you an unidentified woman. They have
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to say that to cover their tracks if they were just rewriting your work. Yeah. You know, but yeah,
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there's no interest from the mainstream media about this story that is really taking on a bit of an
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international focus because the outside world, particularly the Americans, they cannot even
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believe what's happening in Alberta. It's the kind of thing they don't even try to pull in California
00:26:10.020
and they're doing it in so-called conservative Alberta. Now we do have a petition at SavePastorTracy.com.
00:26:16.860
So if you go to SavePastorTracy.com, you're going to see a bunch of things. You're going to see my
00:26:20.660
coverage so you can sort of follow along with the plight and the trials and tribulations of this church.
00:26:26.300
You can see our billboard along the side of Highway 2 because I want as many people to know in this
00:26:32.320
province that the persecutions are still going on even though the lockdown restrictions and Jason
00:26:38.360
Kenny are gone. And you can help fund the legal fees and the appeal for the church. And you can sign
00:26:44.980
our petition at SavePastorTracy.com and we're going to do something special with that. Sure, Jason
00:26:49.760
Kenny's gone. He's doing the long goodbye. We are going to hand deliver that petition to all the UCP
00:26:56.120
leadership candidates because we want a commitment from them that there must be an amnesty on these
00:27:02.440
so-called COVID scoff laws. They didn't do anything wrong. They didn't hurt anybody. Nobody was there
00:27:07.880
that didn't want to be there. Why are we trying to ruin these people if not just to deter anybody
00:27:14.040
from standing up next time? You know, that is such a great analogy. You use the word amnesty and I'm
00:27:19.400
familiar with certain terms in law and policy like a gun amnesty. Happens a lot in the United States.
00:27:25.700
There are certain firearms and if you give them up to the police, they won't ask any questions. They'll just take
00:27:30.760
the guns and no questions asked. Sometimes they even pay you for them. There's immigration amnesties. They have
00:27:38.500
that a lot. And they've had that in the United States. They talk about having it more where, okay, you came
00:27:43.620
into the country illegally, but you can get on the right track this way and we won't prosecute you. And then there's
00:27:48.720
even tax amnesties. We have those in Canada that you can, if you did some cheating, if you did some
00:27:55.660
tax evasion, you can come to the government and they won't ask too many questions. All sorts of
00:28:02.700
amnesties and these three things I'm talking about, illegal guns, illegal immigration, tax cheating are
00:28:08.060
very serious. Imagine an amnesty for those things, but not an amnesty for a church that politely asked
00:28:16.600
a government inspector to come back, not right in the middle of the pastor's sermon. Super gross. And
00:28:23.420
that's how I started this interview is saying true leaders who care about freedom wouldn't let
00:28:29.780
little bully cops or bully prosecutors do this, that they stay all the prosecutions immediately.
00:28:35.780
But it's not just that Jason Kenney is letting these police and prosecutors doing this. He assigned
00:28:42.420
them this job. He is encouraging them. I think it's his vengeance. The more I see Jason Kenney deal with
00:28:48.720
these freedom protesters, like with the truckers, he started using Trudeau language about radicals,
00:28:55.000
extremists, hateful. Like he started using Justin Trudeau language. It was super gross.
00:29:01.880
And I think just like Justin Trudeau is really vengeful against people who disagree with him.
00:29:06.300
I sense a whiff of vengeance in the air. It's well into 2022. The lockdowns are gone.
00:29:15.600
But Kenney just wants his pound of flesh from these churches.
00:29:18.100
Yeah. And I think that this church is exceptionally under the ire of the government because when the
00:29:28.980
vaccine passports came and when the workplace vaccine mandates came, Pastor Rodney and Pastor
00:29:35.200
Tracy were working 24 hours a day to interview people, to intake people, to do their best to
00:29:43.500
assess their sincerely hold religious beliefs and write exemptions for them so that they could,
00:29:49.680
when these people were abandoned by their own churches and forced into a vaccine by their own
00:29:56.400
employer just to pay the bills, they picked up the pieces and they did everything they could to help
00:30:02.080
people to get around the force of the state. That's what this is about.
00:30:06.380
Churches dared to say our religious belief is that we shouldn't be forced to take these
00:30:12.220
vaccines and we're going to write a letter to people. No wonder the government hates them so
00:30:16.280
much. I didn't know that part of the story. That shows the true ulterior motives of Jason
00:30:21.940
Kenney's lame duck regime. It's a real problem, I think, that Jason Kenney, although he announced
00:30:28.280
he's quitting, he's still running the show. Aaron O'Toole, the coward who was finally toppled by
00:30:34.400
the truckers. At least he had the good graces to say goodbye immediately. There was an internal
00:30:40.600
leader chosen almost immediately in the form of Candace Bergen. And whatever you have to say about
00:30:45.860
Candace Bergen, you know she's a temporary caretaker leader and she's not Aaron O'Toole, which is the
00:30:51.280
best thing you can say. Jason Kenney said goodbye, but it was with a giant asterisk, bit of a sneaky,
00:30:58.380
slippery goodbye. And he is still running the show, abusively prosecuting and
00:31:04.320
persecuting these churches. That's super gross. Yeah. I mean, especially when the reason he is,
00:31:12.360
I think, no longer leader or he's still leader while he does this sort of waltz out the door
00:31:17.840
months later. The reason he had to resign is because of what he's still doing right now.
00:31:25.060
He attacks on the churches. I think it was good for 15% right off the top. I don't care what your
00:31:29.560
religion is. When you see government officials issuing fines, arresting pastors on rainy streets,
00:31:37.300
barging in with clipboards while people are trying to pray, it doesn't matter what your religion is.
00:31:41.420
It doesn't matter if you're a secular person. Most normal people see that there is no possible way
00:31:47.500
that that can be right and just and appropriate in a free society. And that's why Jason Kenney had
00:31:52.940
to show himself the door. Yeah. You know, it's funny. You just made me think of all the liberal
00:31:58.260
media and the liberal politicians. They're apoplectic that Quebec has a bill called Bill 24. It's actually
00:32:03.880
law now. And it's the I don't know if we use this word in English very much, laity or laicity law
00:32:12.600
as a archaic way of saying secular law. They have a law in Quebec that if you work in the public service,
00:32:19.820
you cannot have conspicuous religious symbols. And there's some legitimate controversy about that.
00:32:26.100
It's clearly come about because of the face obscuring burqa, which is alien to our Western
00:32:32.720
concept of looking people in the face. That's one of the reasons I hated the masks is we couldn't see
00:32:37.140
each other's faces. This laicity law in Quebec also bans yarmulkes, Sikh turbans, big conspicuous
00:32:44.700
crosses, too, by the way. Now, some people like that law. Some people don't. I understand the
00:32:50.140
rationale for it. I don't think I've thought a lot about it, but it is unanimous amongst the fancy
00:32:55.260
people. But that that law is atrocious and that it is destroying freedom of people who like to wear
00:33:01.600
big conspicuous religious symbols. And I'm and I'm sure it does. All those people, the Venn diagram
00:33:08.860
would be a complete overlap. It would be just two circles right on top of each circle. The people
00:33:13.960
who are appalled by Bill 21 and want to use the charter and we have to stop Bill 21. Every one of
00:33:23.340
them says go harder against these guys churches, crush them, prosecute them, set up a special task
00:33:32.460
force to get the churches. The overlap is complete, Sheila. Yeah. And, you know, there's really even as
00:33:41.020
the UCP leadership rolls on so far, I see three contenders for the leadership saying this should
00:33:50.860
not have happened. It's Todd Lowen, Daniel Smith, who said this should not have happened. And I will go on
00:33:58.220
an apology to her to try to make this right with Albertans and Bill Rock. But outside of that,
00:34:03.980
what really should be the overarching issue of the leadership campaign, given that it's the reason
00:34:11.700
that Jason Kenney is no longer going to be leader, you'd think that more people would be talking about
00:34:16.780
it. But it's the mainstream media that drives these conversations in the public and they love it.
00:34:22.280
Yeah. Well, very interesting days. Sheila, thanks so much for covering that church case and the other
00:34:30.340
ones that you do. There are many church cases that are still afoot in Alberta. Of course, Pastor Arthur
00:34:35.560
Pavlovsky's case is live. And I'm delighted that the Democracy Fund is defending him, defending Church
00:34:42.180
in the Line and defending other churches too. It's appalling to me that other churches are either silent or
00:34:50.980
frankly against these freedom churches. I think that's really gross. I'm embarrassed that no
00:34:59.120
synagogues or mosques or Sikh temples have come to the aid of these churches. You know, you've been to
00:35:07.180
the Holocaust Memorial in Israel. I've been there with you. There's something called the Righteous
00:35:12.660
Gentiles. They have the Garden of the Righteous Gentiles. These are Christians who protected the Jews,
00:35:18.140
like Oskar Schindler being one of the most famous examples, at personal risk. Like the people who
00:35:23.600
hid Anne Frank. They were Gentiles. They hid Anne Frank because it was the right thing to do. They
00:35:28.300
weren't Jews themselves. Where are the righteous Jews? Where are the righteous Sikhs, the righteous Muslims,
00:35:34.100
the righteous Hindus? They're letting these Christians twist in the wind. Where is the Solidarian? I tell you,
00:35:41.640
if you had a bunch of clergy from every faith come out and say, lay off the Christian churches,
00:35:47.980
that would pack a wallop. And by the way, it would feel very good, I think, for Christians to see
00:35:53.000
that kind of solidarity. I think there's a lot of shame to go around here. I think the media is the
00:35:59.760
worst and the government is the worst. But I'm glad you're on the story, Sheila.
00:36:03.780
You know, what you're explaining is exactly why these churches are bursting at the seams. These freedom
00:36:08.480
churches are outgrowing their buildings. And it's because Christians feel abandoned by their own
00:36:14.400
clergy who should have stood up for them, should have stood up for religious freedom, and should
00:36:18.080
have seen themselves as frontline workers during the pandemic giving spiritual aid and comfort.
00:36:23.480
But they never did. And that's why people were flooding to church in the vine. That's why Grace Life
00:36:28.080
has now outgrown its building. That's why Tim Stevens is outgrowing his building. That's why Pastor Art's
00:36:34.360
Churches packed every single week. And it's because they were let down by their own clergy,
00:36:40.280
by their own priests, that they came to the churches who stood with them. And now, hopefully,
00:36:45.640
they continue to stand with those churches as they stand up to the government.
00:36:48.980
Yeah. Well, I'm glad that we're doing our part by telling the story, or as our motto is,
00:36:55.120
telling the other side of the story, because the government and the media party is certainly
00:36:59.120
against these folks. Thanks, Sheila. Keep it up.
00:37:03.160
All right. There you have it. Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter,
00:37:05.940
the only reporter covering this huge story. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:37:22.360
Hey, welcome back. Your feedback, Brad Peterson says, have to agree with you on this one, Ezra. We will
00:37:27.020
see the federal conservative party's true colors concerning political abuse of power.
00:37:33.600
Look, for a while, conservatives were scared of the truckers because Aaron O'Toole said,
00:37:38.420
don't meet with them. He's gone. Then the conservatives were sort of outbidding each
00:37:43.020
other. I met with the truckers first. No, I met with them first. Well, now that Tamara Litch is
00:37:48.040
arrested, who's going to stand up for them? I think this is a litmus test, don't you?
00:37:52.240
Not just federally, but the provincial UCP in Alberta. Just in case, that may be a nickname,
00:37:59.900
says our Ontario Provincial Police are looking as bad as the Capitol Police down in D.C. They both
00:38:06.780
appear to directly support corporate interests above all. I don't have a lot of experience with
00:38:12.180
the OPP. You may be confusing them with the RCMP, which is heavily politicized, or the Ottawa Police,
00:38:18.660
which are just out of control. But I think many Canadian police forces have done a discredit to
00:38:23.680
themselves. Toronto was atrocious. The Montreal Police, just atrocious during the lockdown. Imagine
00:38:28.840
a curfew from 10 p.m. till 5 a.m. for everyone, sick or healthy, young or old, a curfew. That really
00:38:37.300
is what they do in dictatorships. Aaron Deneen says, the same thing is happening here in New Zealand with
00:38:45.040
persons of interest, like Tamara, detained without bail and isolated from family without charge.
00:38:51.360
Yeah, I mean, there are terrifying laws on the books, and these police and politicians have shown
00:38:57.340
they're not afraid to use them. Who knows? Maybe one day they'll come for us. That's our show for
00:39:03.600
the day. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:39:10.260
Hey guys, Andrew here. We're at the Collision 2022 conference. We're going to ask people about
00:39:39.700
Bitcoin, about investments in crypto, and what type of things they've seen here for the last three
00:39:46.500
Sure. We're asking people if they're invested in crypto.
00:39:49.700
Yes, not only will we be invested in crypto, but we're making an investment in crypto in ways
00:39:54.580
that we know of customers. Well, essentially, crypto and the blockchain, it's here to stay. But the
00:40:01.060
enablement of customers to use the product, there aren't many companies that are helping customers do
00:40:06.580
that. That's what we do. We're asking people today if they're invested in any crypto.
00:40:10.660
Yeah, I have. I had invested in crypto before. What happened? I mean, it evaporated.
00:40:18.420
Do you think it's evaporated? I don't have it anymore. I actually think my grandmother invested
00:40:23.300
in crypto for me. But I personally am not. What would you recommend? I don't have any recommendations
00:40:29.940
because the market's really going down. So we're asking people how they feel about that.
00:40:33.380
Yeah, I'm not sure. I definitely should get into more investing, but I'm not sure how I feel about
00:40:39.140
crypto yet. Not yet. Not yet. Is now the time? I mean, this is, again, a very, very, very dicey
00:40:47.380
situation and a question. But then those who are a tech savior or believing in a disruptive technology,
00:40:53.620
well, you know, it's like an early bird approach. You can always jump into that and figure out what
00:40:57.940
works well for you. Very smart, sir. Thank you.
00:41:00.180
Yeah. She went to a good crypto conference this morning and kind of reinforced what I already knew.
00:41:06.180
You know, don't sell low. Either if you have it, hold or buy more right now. It's a good time to buy.
00:41:12.580
Well, yeah, we are. Obviously we own a cryptocurrency platform. We're building a cryptocurrency platform.
00:41:18.660
We're trying to get more women investing in crypto. And what do you say to people right now who are
00:41:22.580
wary about investing given the market? I'll let her answer that one. It's the best time to start
00:41:28.420
investing. It truly is. You know, opportunity. There's a lot of opportunity with volatility. So
00:41:34.500
it's a great time to start investing. No, I don't know. No, I don't. Is there a reason or you just don't
00:41:39.860
care? No, actually, I'm interested. And with the downfall that has been these days, I was a little
00:41:47.700
bit scary. But these days, the CEO of Binance was doing a conference here. And he said, like, this is
00:41:55.380
not my first winter. You should invest at this moment. I'm not a crypto speculator. I have crypto
00:42:03.540
holdings. Those holdings. I don't like it goes up and down. It doesn't matter to me. I understand
00:42:08.580
the, you know, the fundamentals and the functionality of it and its use case. So I'm just it's basically
00:42:14.660
a hedge against the U.S. economy. I am not. No. Is there any reason? I'm just not ready to do it yet.
00:42:25.780
I'm still like in doing a lot of research. I actually had an interesting conversation with somebody
00:42:30.340
who was talking about quantum computing, which is like going to blow crypto out of the water.
00:42:35.220
So, yeah, I think there's so many things out there right now. Yeah, of course. Of course,
00:42:38.820
he says. What do you have to say to people who are bashing it right now, bashing the market being
00:42:43.220
down? It's a long term game and crypto is very new. Like, chill out. I invested to support a friend.
00:42:52.740
So, yes. And what happened? I haven't looked at the NFTs that I bought, but it's to support a
00:42:59.620
friend. There's a ton of projects coming in. I do think it is the future in terms of like Web3
00:43:04.020
decentralization. So I think that is the future of what's happening. So I'm trying to learn more.
00:43:09.940
But yeah, there's going to be a lot of interesting times before we kind of really figure out what
00:43:14.020
that landscape looks like. It's a very long line for coffee. But it's very good coffee here.
00:43:20.580
Is it? Yeah. You need to also line up at the back.
00:43:24.820
I'm not trying to get into the line, sir. I just wanted to know what the line was for.
00:43:28.660
We're asking people today if they're invested in crypto. Are you?
00:43:31.700
No, I didn't. Is there a reason why or why not? Just don't care?
00:43:35.940
I still not like, didn't go like read the papers. I didn't like, how to say, didn't go deeper,
00:43:44.980
how like gonna be in the future, like how is like still in our life. That's the reason, but I'm planning
00:43:53.940
to go, but I don't know what time I'm going to go for some investment.
00:43:58.660
I have some money in Bitcoin, so I'm not checking my account because I know that it's very disappointing.
00:44:06.660
I do invest in crypto and all my money is down right now.
00:44:11.460
What would you say to people who don't want to invest in crypto? Do you advise it? Do you think
00:44:15.620
that they should buy in right now or not do it at all?
00:44:17.700
So, if they have cash flow, then buy it. Because in two years or three years,
00:44:22.500
it's going to get back to it. It's going to be like 10 times over what you're going to invest
00:44:24.980
right now. If you invest $3,000, it's going to become 30,000 in three years. That's my bet.
00:44:30.980
Yes. That's what happened with Bitcoin as well. It was $10 at one point. Now it's like
00:44:36.980
it went up to 60k. Now it's down to 28k. It's still the profit.
00:44:42.260
I was, but I got out before everything crashed. I played the dips.
00:44:46.340
Would you advise people to get it now or not get it at all? Or how do you feel about that?
00:44:51.140
I think long term, if you have the patience, it's worth it. I could see it going somewhere.
00:44:54.980
I bought Ether at like 4k. I made a lot of NFTs, but I'm still holding on 1k,
00:45:01.460
What's your advice for people who don't have any crypto? Should they get it now?
00:45:06.740
Okay. ETH is going to dip to like 500 bucks. Wait a few months, buy then and then write it up.
00:45:18.980
I don't understand much about that. So I don't like to invest in something I don't understand.
00:45:24.820
Oh, I mean, it has nothing to do with what I'm doing. I'm more into the NFT space than individual
00:45:32.340
crypto. And do you think that's more safe and less volatile than crypto?
00:45:38.100
We're asking people if they're invested in crypto. Do you have any crypto investment?
00:45:44.820
My advice is to do a lot of researches because me, I'm always investing more into the new than
00:45:52.420
going and do my own researches. So I invested in Shiba, in Dodge.
00:45:58.340
Not thank you to Elon Musk because that's because of him I invested in that. I heard he's getting
00:46:06.340
Not yet. Maybe in the future because we're going to scale and like cross-border, like
00:46:10.500
transaction will require something. So crypto will be probably one of our solutions.
00:46:16.580
I dabbled a little bit, but I'm not in anymore.
00:46:23.060
Because so I think for now, because the downward trend of cryptocurrency here, so I think
00:46:34.900
So wrapping up our question of people are involved in crypto or not, and what kind of advice can they
00:46:39.380
give to others? Well, everybody's saying that it's a long-term game and they should probably get
00:46:43.620
invested in now, if at all. Some people are spouting the usual taglines of it's a perfect time to buy
00:46:50.340
and, you know, it's going to fluctuate like every market. But in general, I think most people are a
00:46:54.900
little bit skeptical and want to read more about it before they get into making large purchases of