EZRA LEVANT | Irish government wages 'war' with citizenry over immigration
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Summary
In this episode, we visit a migrant camp on the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland, and talk to the people inside. They tell us what it's like to be a refugee, and how they feel about the way the Irish government treats them.
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Tonight, from Ireland, under the watchful gaze of the police, I'll give you a report
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It's July 19th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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It's a bit of a drive outside Dublin, but not far.
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And behind these corrugated metal fences is a migrant facility.
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But those fences are not designed to protect the people of Newtown, Mount Kennedy.
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They're designed to protect the people inside from public scrutiny.
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There's a border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, which is a country in the United Kingdom.
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Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK, England, Wales, Scotland, you can travel back and forth
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So what happens is migrants from places like Somalia, Algeria, Palestine, whatever, they
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And then they get on a dinghy and they cross the English Channel into the United Kingdom.
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And the policy of the government, not just the Labour government today, but for the last
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14 years of the Conservative government, has been to accept hundreds of thousands of these
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I call them fake because if you're already in France, you're no danger.
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But the UK at least was talking about deporting some.
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And the UK is a pretty luxurious place to be as a refugee.
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But it's got nothing on Ireland where they'll put you in luxury accommodations.
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So people go from the third world to the UK and then from the UK, they go to Northern Ireland
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and then they simply walk across the border into Ireland and say, we're refugees.
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As absurd as that sounds, given that Northern Ireland is a completely safe place.
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Well, they come here and they get free social services, free housing, free health care, free
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education, a lot of free things that ordinary Indigenous Irish do not get.
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But here in Newtown, Mount Kennedy, there's been some resistance to that, especially given
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that the people inside this facility are not what are typically recognizable as refugees,
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They're young, military-aged men, typically from countries that you would have to do a lot
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of hopping, skipping and jumping to get to here in Ireland.
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And so they don't have a wall like this between Northern Ireland and Ireland.
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They don't have a wall on their border, but they have a wall here.
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But it's not to protect the Irish from these young men.
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It's to stop prying eyes to see what's going on.
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And I mentioned earlier that surveillance camera, one of many, when we simply showed up
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here with a group of local citizens to talk about this, immediately police were dispatched.
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Their first response was to throw a rock at Lincoln J., our videographer.
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The police, or the guard eye as they're called, they would never arrest the folks inside, but
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they have arrested several people out here, or pepper sprayed them, for asking tricky questions.
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It's a journalism fence to stop people in the city from knowing or asking or learning about
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I say scammers because I say, again, if you are a young military-aged man from Somalia or
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from Palestine or wherever they claim to be from, you're not a refugee because you came
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It's an incredible statement of who the boss in Ireland is.
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It's foreign migrants who lie their way into Ireland and the Irish government that's at
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For the course of the next half hour, you'll see my conversations with the people in Newtown
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And when four of the migrants started walking down this road, I tried to have a chat with
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We had a camp here originally before all this came.
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And then we set up a second camp in here because we were told we weren't allowed to have one
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So we went in behind this kind of gate and the police came with their diggers and they tore
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The camera is spinning around literally as we're here talking.
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And we have no access that we can't see who's filming that, who's watching us, who has access
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You're terrified for your kids to walk on this road.
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But you're sure that is a government, the government put that up?
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So they've rang the guards to tell them that we're here.
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And by guards, you mean the guard eye, the official police?
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Tell me a little bit about Newtown and Kennedy.
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And, you know, until this happened, of course, peaceful.
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There's only a few shops in it, a few pubs in it.
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There's not enough facilities even for the people that are here, people that are moving
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in here, of which there are all races and all creeds and colours.
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What we do have a problem with is this, as you can see.
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Now, I can't see because there's a big corrugated metal fence all around.
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It's like something you'd see in 1970s Belfast when you've seen the soldier forts, as we
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Before this was all erected, it was a big convent house.
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And the walls would have only been about four feet high.
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And you could see into the grounds quite clearly.
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They say it's to protect them from us scary people.
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No, the working class people of Newtown are very scary people, apparently.
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And so, anyway, Newtown, this road here, as you see, there's no lightning on it, no
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But still, it was a great facility for people who would be out cycling, running, walking,
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And now nobody does that anymore because we feel unsafe with unknown men in there, no
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Behind there, there's large marquee-style tents.
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I was in Kulak in Dublin, and then we went to Dundrum, further south.
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And the same thing I've heard in every place is lack of information, let alone consultation
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Have you tried using something like an access to information request?
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We shouldn't want to know who's moving into our area.
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Isn't there some sort of legislation that allows you to access some government records like that?
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Well, if you try to get access to any information, you're shut down very quickly in this country.
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You're put down as if it's anything to do with IPAS or anything like that.
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You must be a racist because you're looking for information.
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Now, is your prime minister the local TD, the local member of parliament for this region?
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He lives about six, seven kilometers away from here.
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But it might as well be on the moon because he never has come into Newtown.
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He's never consulted with the people of Newtown.
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There is no IPAS center, though, anywhere near where he lives or his people.
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This one, the actual gate that they go in is just further down there, about 100 meters.
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So are these people, you use the initials IPA, that's like an asylum seeker?
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Yeah, it's International Protection Applicants.
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We're just imagining, they seem to be of Middle Eastern origin, most of them.
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They don't give us information on who's in there.
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They walk up in groups all the time towards the village.
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And we have Newtown, GAA there, just about 300 meters up the road.
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And they have children playing up around the pitches there all the time.
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They're going to be running a summer camp for six-year-olds upwards.
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When I think of refugees in my mind, I think of women and children.
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And we have, as a country, taken in the most per capita in Europe of refugees from the likes
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Those people are actually benefiting in the community.
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And from what I heard from the locals, that they were somewhat integrated.
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Because they make the effort to integrate with us, to work among us, and speak with us.
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And, you know, mostly they also know English, which is very handy.
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They're coming from a genuine situation where their country is at war.
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However, even our own ministers have admitted that 85% coming into the country at the moment
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They call them refugees, but they're not refugees.
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Now, are these the folks who just walk across the border from Northern Ireland?
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Well, I mean, I haven't been to Northern Ireland, but I've been to the United Kingdom.
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And a lot of migrants go to France, then go to the UK, often in a dinghy.
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My understanding of the rules of refugee is that you apply for asylum.
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We are not implementing any of them laws, it seems.
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Our government has not taken any opportunities to refuse people that have no passports,
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So they come in and they get a new identity card and they can be who they want to be.
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I'm just trying to understand the wall because sometimes walls are to keep people out.
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Here it's sort of funny because the people who normally are kept out by a border wall,
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they're in already, and now they're keeping out the citizens, I think maybe they should
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deploy this wall at the Irish border with Northern Ireland.
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Well, it's my experience that you will always have a wall.
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You will always have a lock, whether it's around your country or around a gated community
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Like, I think this is as much to keep citizens out and non-citizens...
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Because they flush their passports down the toilet.
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But if you know that they came from the UK by just walking across the border
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from Northern Ireland, why don't you just deport them to the United Kingdom?
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So you're under some European Union migration policy?
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Well, I mean, Hungary is part of the European Union.
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Yeah, well, I mean, it doesn't look very inviting.
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It's quite a manly knock I have, if I may say so.
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Now, who would those people be wearing the balaclavas?
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And when we asked the guards about it, the guard said, well, why doesn't anyone report it?
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They peed up in someone's front doorway, kind of like a little gateway going up to it.
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Now, he was kind of Eastern European look about him.
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And we've heard them in there with their London accents.
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Because what has happened is that the word has gone out that they're getting everything given to them here.
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And they're getting more here than they would in the UK.
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So, naturally, they're saying to themselves and their buddies, let's go to Ireland.
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We'll be giving everything and not have to work or anything like that.
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And they're with their London and Manchester accents, pretending they're Palestinian or something like that.
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We all know they're fleeing nothing but economic.
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I'm doing a story on the facility there and who's in there.
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How come you guys don't want to talk about anything?
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How can you be a refugee if you actually came from the United Kingdom before you came here?
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Did you guys destroy your documents before you came over?
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That people get on a plane, but then they shred their documents.
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Is it that you guys just think the Irish are suckers and they've got a soft touch and they'll be more generous than, say, the Brits or the French?
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But I like the idea of a man who has a gate and a fence.
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I think the Irish should take inspiration from this guy with a gate and a fence.
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I think an Irish government should have a fence just like this.
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And I think the Irish government should hire a security guard just like that.
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And if anyone wants to illegally come in the country, they should slam the door in their face just like that.
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Do you live around here in Newtown Mount Kennedy?
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That's one of the most beautiful cities in Italy.
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So, in the early hours of the morning, I think it was about half two, three o'clock in the morning,
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there was a small camp set up here, literally right where we're standing.
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The local residents had a protest camp set up, and Gardaí came in with the public order in tow,
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at half two, three o'clock in the morning, and just plowed through.
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They cut through that, and they forced in masked workers.
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Now, at the moment, there's a big hullabaloo about protesters wearing masks and such,
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and essentially, they're covering up for guys that are going on site and carrying out illegal works
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on sites that have no regulation passed on them whatsoever,
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But as the day progressed, tensions essentially escalated,
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and as you chat there to one of the women, her daughter was arrested.
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She was at the front line in that famous footage from April 25th.
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She's the woman that was saying, bring the women to the front,
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because she thought that the Gardaí wouldn't storm them.
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But moments later, they did with battens, the shields, and the pepper spray.
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their names and faces have been smeared all over the media.
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But any time it seems to be, you know, a migrant who's guilty of a crime,
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There's not really much said about them at all.
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A perfect example is the stabbing incident, you know,
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that happened in November last and led to the riots in Dublin.
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Riyad Bouchakar, that's about the only information that we have in that he's Algerian.
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His image is nowhere to be found across social media.
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But meanwhile, you get four people that are trying to stand up for their community
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and protect their history, heritage, and culture.
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Their addresses right down to the house number are put all over across our nation's media.
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And I look at the footage now that's happening in, you know,
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in other communities like Koolock that you were at earlier on today,
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essentially military-style action charging towards you
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My partner across the way over here, you know, there's a kids' GAA pitch.
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She was assisting those there at the pitch that were pepper sprayed.
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Like, there was kids as young as, I think, 14, 15,
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And my partner's over there trying to give them, you know,
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It sounds a bit extreme, but it sounds, you know,
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it was like something out of Vietnam or something,
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because all you're hearing is screams all around you.
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And you have the guard, you're just storming up this little laneway,
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And you've got rocks coming from the other side and being hurled back over.
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Where this country is going, I just, honestly, I don't know anymore.
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We have obviously nobody to speak on our behalf,
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Bringing all these men into Ireland, young single men, putting them in a tent.
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How are they going to integrate into our society?
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The only jobs I've seen them doing is security.
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You know, like, they're stopping Irish people going into,
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And this fence is not protecting you, it's protecting them.
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No, it's actually, we're actually the ones behind the fence, really.
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We have, you know, the government, our local TDs, our local representatives,
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the Gardaí and who else, even the people in the town.
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It's a lovely small community and people get on really well on the whole.
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But now there's a divide that was never there before.
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And then I was looking at a picture, I was looking at a video yesterday of Kulak.
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And I saw there was one young guy under about 10 Gardaí.
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And you should have seen the looks on their faces.
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I saw the prime minister use that language as well.
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Not only that has he got no empathy, but he actually condemns us.
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See, we've tried to, like, when we've had worries about local, the guys coming out, walking around the town, hanging around close to playgrounds, children, they had to put extra fencing up around a kindergarten school because they're worried about men passing by looking in at the children.
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And then I saw one of the immigrants running behind her.
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Now, he was probably jogging, probably nothing to do with her.
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But I didn't know whether to stop to the woman and say, do you know that there's a strange man running behind you?
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And there were two immigrants, one behind the other.
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And I was saying to myself, they're probably fine.
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But I didn't know whether they were or they weren't.
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Children were left in their prams outside some houses.
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I know it's happening in the UK and lots of Western Europe countries where we're seen as irrelevant.
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And I can see we're going down the road like the American Indians, becoming an ethnic minority in their own country.
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I say again that this is not an internment camp.
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It is not a prison or a detention facility whatsoever.
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It's a fence designed to keep the people of Ireland out.
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From Newtown, Mount Kennedy, not far from Dublin, Ireland, on behalf of Rebel News, this is Ezra Lantz saying, keep fighting for freedom.
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Here I'm out of the room where I am out of the room gym.