Rebel News Podcast - February 10, 2023


EZRA LEVANT ｜ Is Canada broken？ Debating the nation's state with Manny Montenegrino


Episode Stats

Length

33 minutes

Words per Minute

160.22002

Word Count

5,447

Sentence Count

424

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Justin Trudeau says Canada is broken when it suits him. But is it really? And why does he say that to the foreign press? And what does it mean about the rest of the country? We talk to our friend Manny Montenegro about all of this and more on the Ezra Levant Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.460 Hello, my friends. One of our favorite people, Manny Montenegrino. We're going to have a
00:00:05.300 philosophical and practical conversation about this question. Is Canada broken? Pierre Polyev
00:00:12.440 thinks it is. Justin Trudeau, well, he thinks it is too when it suits him. Other times, not so much.
00:00:18.000 We'll get into it. But first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's
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00:00:36.140 who don't. And so we rely on you. That's Rebel News Plus. All right, here's today's show.
00:00:41.760 Tonight, an in-depth conversation with our friend Manny Montenegrino. And the question is this,
00:00:48.160 is Canada broken? It's February 9th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:52.960 Is Canada broken? It's a very deep question. Justin Trudeau says Canada isn't just broken,
00:01:14.960 it's a deeply genocidal place. But he only says that sometimes. Unfortunately, some of those times
00:01:21.260 are when he's talking to the foreign press, he badmouths us. The tyrants of the world take
00:01:26.000 note, and they no longer accept criticism of their actual genocides, like China and their Uyghurs.
00:01:32.540 They throw it back in our face because Trudeau has condemned us in language he won't even use to
00:01:38.000 condemn China. Trudeau also says that Canadians have many other flaws. We are a broken people. We are
00:01:45.060 racist. We are sexist. Not him in his blackface or his sexual assault of Rose Knight in Creston, BC.
00:01:51.260 No, no, no. Just us. So Justin Trudeau says the country is broken when it suits him.
00:01:56.940 But of course, he's been running the country now for almost eight years, and it's tough for him to
00:02:01.380 blame any brokenness on the previous administration, which is certainly what he did for the first few
00:02:07.060 years. Well, now there's a new leader of the opposition. Pierre Polyev is his name, and he seems
00:02:12.620 a little bit sharper than the last leader of the opposition. And he's leaning into the concept that,
00:02:17.500 well, if Canada is not broken, certainly the government of Canada is broken. Look at this
00:02:24.480 entertaining but persuasive exchange in Parliament just this week.
00:02:29.280 Prime Minister said he was drawing the line to ban anyone from pointing out that things are broken
00:02:35.040 after eight years of his leadership. Well, his own parliamentary budget officer has crossed the
00:02:40.780 line, Mr. Speaker, saying, and I quote, the system, there is a system that is broken.
00:02:45.860 Anybody who has recently applied for a passport, employment insurance, old age security, and the
00:02:50.320 list goes on, they probably realize very well that the level of public service Canadians are
00:02:54.860 getting is not what one would expect from a world-class public service. There is room for
00:02:59.760 enhanced leadership. Mr. Speaker, will he call to the carpet this rogue parliamentary officer
00:03:05.820 for saying that things are broken?
00:03:12.820 Mr. Speaker, after a very difficult pandemic, yes, there have been challenges on service delivery,
00:03:16.820 and that's why this government has been stepping up. One of the areas we're stepping up in is recognizing
00:03:21.820 that our universal public health care system needs more support. And that's why we're moving forward with
00:03:28.820 $198 billion worth of investments in additional money to support provinces and territories in delivering
00:03:35.820 better health care for Canadians, whether that's more access to family doctors, better mental health
00:03:41.820 supports, better support for frontline health workers, or better data and information to underpin our system.
00:03:47.820 We are there to invest while conservatives continue to push cuts.
00:03:51.820 I thought Polyev did a good job there. He wasn't saying that Canada as an idea is broken. He was pointing
00:03:57.820 out how whether it was running the airports or the passports or pretty much anything else, including
00:04:03.820 Roxham Road, what the government is supposed to do is broken, and it's not good enough for the Canadian
00:04:09.820 people. I thought that was very effective. The liberals hate that. They're squawking about it, saying that
00:04:14.820 Polyev himself is being unpatriotic by claiming that the country is broken. I don't think he's claiming that the
00:04:20.820 country is. I think he's claiming that the government is, and it's different.
00:04:25.820 Well, one man who I think will help us with this conversation, and we're going to have a full-length
00:04:29.820 show with him today, is our friend Manny Montenegreno. He's not just the CEO of ThinkSharp.
00:04:34.820 He's also someone who has worked in law and politics for decades, including serving as a lawyer to
00:04:40.820 aforementioned Stephen Harper. He joins us now by Skype from Ottawa. Manny, great to see you again.
00:04:46.820 Yeah, great to be with you.
00:04:48.820 Well, it's a pleasure to have you. And by the way, we've got to get you back on Twitter. You were one
00:04:52.820 of the most entertaining and informative brawlers on Twitter until you were suspended. But now that
00:04:58.820 Elon Musk has brought back free speech, we've got to bring Manny back to Twitter.
00:05:02.820 Thank you. Thank you.
00:05:04.820 What do you think about the concept that Canada is broken? Because no one wants to say we live in a
00:05:08.820 broken place. No one wants to talk down their city, their country, their family, their home. But I think it's
00:05:16.820 okay to talk down the government and how the government is doing. And certainly politicians
00:05:22.820 are fair game, isn't it?
00:05:24.820 Absolutely. And there's two ways to define broken.
00:05:28.820 There is, you know, I call it the DNA way, you know, does it go to the core of the person?
00:05:36.820 Or is it, you know, little cuts and bruises and so on?
00:05:40.820 So, you know, if something gets to a human's DNA, that's pretty critical. If someone gets to some
00:05:48.820 small bruises. So what Pierre Polivar did, did list a bunch of broken things, the passports,
00:05:54.820 all these things are small broken. But when you ask me the question, I go to the fundamental
00:06:02.820 definition of Canada. And Ezra, I did a little homework. In 1967, we became Canadian citizens. I was just a
00:06:12.820 teen at that time, almost a teen. And my father received a certificate. Then we were called the Dominion
00:06:20.820 of Canada. And in that certificate, it reminded every immigrant what they're entitled to. And I'll list the
00:06:28.820 four. Number one is you're entitled to freedom of
00:06:32.820 speech. You're entitled to freedom of assembly. You're entitled to
00:06:36.820 freedom of religion. And you're entitled to a democratic
00:06:40.820 parliament, a free democratic parliament. Now those, those
00:06:44.820 were the four things that define Canada. I'll call it
00:06:48.820 the DNA of Canada. And if you speak to anyone, any
00:06:52.820 Canadian, I would say at least ten
00:06:56.820 years ago, because I think we've lost this
00:06:58.820 lesson, but any Canadian for the
00:07:00.820 last, since the First World
00:07:02.820 War, that's who Canada is.
00:07:04.820 That's its DNA. Those four
00:07:06.820 values. And
00:07:08.820 that was, we were told,
00:07:10.820 we, you know, got to Canada. We are
00:07:12.820 immigrants to Canada. This is who
00:07:14.820 you are now. This is what you enjoy. These
00:07:16.820 four fundamental pillars.
00:07:18.820 And from 1967,
00:07:20.820 now we all understood it as Canadians,
00:07:22.820 Ezra. We all understood
00:07:24.820 freedom of speech, freedom of religion,
00:07:26.820 freedom of assembly, and a free
00:07:28.820 democratic government. We understood
00:07:30.820 those. But it went on
00:07:32.820 in 1983.
00:07:34.820 It wasn't just
00:07:36.820 who we were. We
00:07:38.820 codified it into the Charter of Rights.
00:07:40.820 Pierre Trudeau understood
00:07:42.820 that, you know, we all agree
00:07:44.820 that we are this, but let's
00:07:46.820 make sure that we will never
00:07:48.820 change who we are as Canadians.
00:07:50.820 So, those four principles, and
00:07:52.820 others, were codified in the Charter
00:07:54.820 of Rights. So, that's
00:07:56.820 who we are. Now,
00:07:58.820 when you ask, are we broken?
00:08:00.820 When we look at, in those terms,
00:08:02.820 the answer is yes.
00:08:04.820 And who did the breaking?
00:08:06.820 Justin Trudeau.
00:08:08.820 Let's go through it.
00:08:10.820 In the last two years,
00:08:12.820 we saw, there's an unprecedented
00:08:14.820 attack of freedom of speech.
00:08:16.820 There's a new parliamentary bill
00:08:18.820 that just passed the Senate to censor
00:08:20.820 free speech.
00:08:22.820 We have Trudeau
00:08:24.820 who paid millions
00:08:26.820 of dollars to co-opt
00:08:28.820 the media, so that voice
00:08:30.820 of free speech is gone.
00:08:32.820 Individuals don't have free speech,
00:08:34.820 and soon, Ezra, I
00:08:36.820 probably will not be on Twitter or any social
00:08:38.820 media, because this new law
00:08:40.820 will prevent any free speech.
00:08:42.820 That's directly being
00:08:44.820 attacked by Justin Trudeau.
00:08:46.820 That's real, it's happening,
00:08:48.820 it's now.
00:08:50.820 So, there's one of the
00:08:52.820 pillars that this immigrant was told
00:08:54.820 you will always have, and in
00:08:56.820 1983, as a young charter lawyer,
00:08:58.820 I said, wow, not only was I
00:09:00.820 told I have it as a citizen,
00:09:02.820 it's now embedded in my DNA
00:09:04.820 of Canada, it's embedded in the
00:09:06.820 Constitution, it's in the Charter,
00:09:08.820 no one will ever take it away from me.
00:09:10.820 Point number two.
00:09:12.820 Okay, let me interrupt you just for one second,
00:09:14.820 I want you to go through them, but I'm just thinking
00:09:16.820 about what it was like to get
00:09:18.820 a certificate, saying
00:09:20.820 here, like that, and
00:09:22.820 it didn't say you're entitled to this
00:09:24.820 welfare, or this payment, or
00:09:26.820 this, you know, it was
00:09:28.820 you're entitled to something far
00:09:30.820 more valuable than money.
00:09:32.820 You're entitled to these
00:09:34.820 deep freedoms, like I,
00:09:36.820 and I can imagine
00:09:38.820 a new Canadian family
00:09:40.820 Well, yeah, from Italy, where
00:09:42.820 Yeah.
00:09:44.820 And thinking about it, and saying this is what our riches are, the riches here is not
00:09:46.820 cash or gold, the riches
00:09:48.820 are these freedoms which
00:09:50.820 we may not have had in the old country, whatever
00:09:52.820 the old country was.
00:09:54.820 Right, it wasn't my skin color, it wasn't how I
00:09:56.820 identify, you know, here's an interesting point,
00:09:58.820 and I'll get on to the point too, but
00:10:00.820 Ezra, there's a lot of
00:10:02.820 silos that,
00:10:04.820 that, you know, diversity, that I will never
00:10:06.820 belong to, I will never
00:10:08.820 be an indigenous
00:10:10.820 person, I will never be a black
00:10:12.820 person, I will never be whatever
00:10:14.820 silos Trudeau is creating, but
00:10:16.820 there's one thing we all have in common
00:10:18.820 and that is these values
00:10:20.820 that Canadians have, those four values
00:10:22.820 that I was told that every Canadian,
00:10:24.820 so whether an immigrant from Italy or
00:10:26.820 Africa, not, we didn't have
00:10:28.820 the same culture, we didn't have anything
00:10:30.820 that was similar in
00:10:32.820 in any way, but we did have
00:10:34.820 these four values that bound
00:10:36.820 us into a nation, and that is
00:10:38.820 a definition of Canada. So did your dad show
00:10:40.820 this? Like, did you, like, what
00:10:42.820 was it like when the certificate arrived? I mean, just
00:10:44.820 I just wonder what it
00:10:46.820 was like. Well, it was,
00:10:48.820 first of all, we didn't know what was going on. I was
00:10:50.820 a kid, and sadly
00:10:52.820 my parents were illiterate,
00:10:54.820 they were indigenous Italians, so they didn't
00:10:56.820 know, but I do have the
00:10:58.820 certificate, so I just saw
00:11:00.820 it the other day, and
00:11:02.820 I looked at it, and in preparation for
00:11:04.820 this discussion, and in preparation
00:11:06.820 to, is Canada broken, I looked at
00:11:08.820 it and I said, oh my God,
00:11:10.820 we were told, as new immigrants,
00:11:12.820 these are your four values, we all
00:11:14.820 share them equal, this is what makes you a
00:11:16.820 Canadian, and by the way, Canada
00:11:18.820 and very few other nations have this,
00:11:20.820 you're lucky to be in Canada, because these are
00:11:22.820 four enduring values
00:11:24.820 that define us. Now, you know, Ezra,
00:11:26.820 I'm going to tell you something, if I
00:11:28.820 were minister of anything in Canada,
00:11:30.820 I would issue that
00:11:32.820 certificate to every Canadian
00:11:34.820 to read it again. We are not teaching
00:11:36.820 Canadians what a Canadian value is,
00:11:38.820 we're not, I mean, the attack on free speech,
00:11:40.820 how it went quietly, I
00:11:42.820 can't understand it.
00:11:44.820 But, so, yeah, issue that
00:11:46.820 certificate, because maybe only immigrants
00:11:48.820 understand what a true
00:11:50.820 Canadian is, because we get to read
00:11:52.820 it.
00:11:54.820 Yeah, so, so the second one
00:11:56.820 is freedom of assembly.
00:11:58.820 I mean, think about that. I mean, that's just a
00:12:00.820 fundamental right, it goes back to
00:12:02.820 Magna Carta 1215, and
00:12:04.820 it was, the only way you can,
00:12:06.820 that people have a voice is they have
00:12:08.820 the right to assembly. Well, what has happened
00:12:10.820 the last two years? I mean,
00:12:12.820 people couldn't assemble, what, the
00:12:14.820 truckers movement, there is a, that
00:12:16.820 is the greatest assault.
00:12:18.820 Now, that freedom assembly was
00:12:20.820 on my certificate in 1967,
00:12:22.820 it defined Canadians from the beginning
00:12:24.820 of the Confederation, and it was
00:12:26.820 institutionalized or codified
00:12:28.820 in the chart of rights, the
00:12:30.820 freedom assembly. Well, that was taken
00:12:32.820 away again by Justin Trudeau.
00:12:34.820 How? By using an emergency
00:12:36.820 act, an emergency act to
00:12:38.820 prevent truckers who were
00:12:40.820 scientifically on the right side
00:12:42.820 of science. They said, no,
00:12:44.820 vaccines don't prevent
00:12:46.820 spread. By that time
00:12:48.820 we knew, and they were on the right
00:12:50.820 side of science, and they were forbidden
00:12:52.820 to assemble. There was
00:12:54.820 not one criminal charge
00:12:56.820 I think that
00:12:58.820 was of any substance, such as a
00:13:00.820 property crime charge, an assault
00:13:02.820 charge, a murder charge, an
00:13:04.820 arson charge. They were simply
00:13:06.820 charges like mischief at the lowest
00:13:08.820 level of the criminal code, and for that
00:13:10.820 you lost your right to assembly.
00:13:12.820 So there's the second pillar that
00:13:14.820 was taken away by Trudeau. The third
00:13:16.820 was the freedom of religion.
00:13:18.820 Well, you know there are
00:13:20.820 times of cases where religious
00:13:22.820 institutions were under attack in the
00:13:24.820 last two years, or believers.
00:13:26.820 I know of cases
00:13:28.820 where individual employees
00:13:30.820 of the federal government
00:13:32.820 had a religious,
00:13:34.820 sought a religious exemption
00:13:36.820 for taking a vaccine that
00:13:38.820 didn't work, that certainly
00:13:40.820 didn't have the purposes it was
00:13:42.820 intended to, and they were,
00:13:44.820 I said this, they were grilled.
00:13:46.820 What do you believe in? Let me tell
00:13:48.820 you, they went before a panel, and
00:13:50.820 the panel judged
00:13:52.820 the religious nature of that
00:13:54.820 person, and most, if
00:13:56.820 not, I think 95% or
00:13:58.820 so were denied. That's another
00:14:00.820 attack on
00:14:02.820 a fundamental
00:14:04.820 pillar of what it is to be a
00:14:06.820 Canadian, and then the free
00:14:08.820 government, well we've seen what's happened
00:14:10.820 there is absolutely,
00:14:12.820 we had a couple of MPs.
00:14:14.820 The parliamentary system
00:14:16.820 is based on everyone being
00:14:18.820 accountable to their constituents.
00:14:20.820 Well, it's all in the Prime Minister's office now.
00:14:22.820 Full control.
00:14:24.820 It's more of a dictatorship
00:14:26.820 now. I mean, there are a few
00:14:28.820 brave Quebec MPs that spoke
00:14:30.820 out and said Trudeau use
00:14:32.820 the vaccines to divide Canadians,
00:14:34.820 and you even had
00:14:36.820 Morneau say that.
00:14:38.820 Defense Minister Morneau said
00:14:40.820 he was divisive, he used it on a purpose,
00:14:42.820 and that, and these people
00:14:44.820 don't have a voice, it's all
00:14:46.820 in the Prime Minister's office.
00:14:50.820 So here you are, the four
00:14:52.820 pillars that I was told as an
00:14:54.820 immigrant, hey, you will have
00:14:56.820 these, and then these four pillars
00:14:58.820 were codified in our charter,
00:15:00.820 I'm going to have them forever.
00:15:02.820 All four have been
00:15:04.820 broken. So when you ask
00:15:06.820 me, Ezra, the simple question
00:15:08.820 is Canada broken?
00:15:10.820 Well, what is Canada?
00:15:12.820 Canada are those four pillars
00:15:14.820 that I told you. Have those four pillars
00:15:16.820 been knocked down? Yes, not one,
00:15:18.820 not two, not three, not
00:15:20.820 all four by one person,
00:15:22.820 Justin Trudeau. So the answer to your
00:15:24.820 question is, is Canada broken?
00:15:26.820 Yes. Who broke it? Justin Trudeau.
00:15:28.820 Yeah. You know, that's a very
00:15:30.820 interesting approach to the question.
00:15:32.820 It's a very thoughtful, philosophical,
00:15:34.820 as you say, it's in the DNA
00:15:36.820 of the country, because Pierre Poliev's
00:15:38.820 list was very practical things.
00:15:40.820 Can you issue a passport? Right.
00:15:42.820 Can you have airports operate?
00:15:44.820 Can you manage a border?
00:15:46.820 Like, those are practical
00:15:48.820 things. And, you know, the liberals
00:15:50.820 hold themselves out as professional
00:15:52.820 governors, unlike the cowboys
00:15:54.820 of the conservatives. Like, you know, they
00:15:56.820 say, when Trudeau
00:15:58.820 was elected, they say, Canada's back.
00:16:00.820 And finally, the embarrassment
00:16:02.820 on the foreign states, for example,
00:16:04.820 is over. But, in fact, Stephen Harper
00:16:06.820 had far more respect internationally,
00:16:08.820 even from our opponents
00:16:10.820 in China and Russia,
00:16:12.820 than Trudeau does. I think
00:16:14.820 Harper, like him or
00:16:16.820 hate him, had the respect
00:16:18.820 of the world. Trudeau, you know,
00:16:20.820 his foray was showing his
00:16:22.820 fancy socks. But
00:16:24.820 you show that party trick once, I think
00:16:26.820 people got tired with it. I can't think,
00:16:28.820 I really can't think of any
00:16:30.820 country in the world other than Ukraine,
00:16:32.820 where Canada's reputation
00:16:34.820 today is stronger
00:16:36.820 than it was before Trudeau
00:16:38.820 took office. Certainly not India.
00:16:40.820 He hasn't been back there since his
00:16:42.820 atrocious, you know, dress-up tour.
00:16:44.820 China, despite his
00:16:46.820 one-way love affair with them, treats us
00:16:48.820 atrociously, even kidnaps some
00:16:50.820 Canadians. United States,
00:16:52.820 Trudeau can't get any
00:16:54.820 concessions from that country on
00:16:56.820 anything important.
00:16:58.820 Well, there's still Canadians
00:17:00.820 who are unvaccinated, they can't get
00:17:02.820 to their
00:17:04.820 Florida home. I'm one of them, I can't go to the states.
00:17:06.820 I go around the world country by
00:17:08.820 country, and this vaunted
00:17:10.820 liberal, you know, sophisticate
00:17:12.820 has bungled
00:17:14.820 it. So I'm just going, and you know,
00:17:16.820 finance is bungled.
00:17:18.820 I really think that
00:17:20.820 Trudeau
00:17:22.820 hired his cabinet based
00:17:24.820 on, like you said,
00:17:26.820 diversity issues.
00:17:28.820 You know, are you indigenous?
00:17:30.820 Are you black? Are you a woman?
00:17:32.820 As opposed to competence and experience.
00:17:34.820 The one guy who had experience,
00:17:36.820 Bill Morneau, is now telling the
00:17:38.820 tale that Trudeau doesn't know what he's doing.
00:17:40.820 He just, you know, hires for looks.
00:17:42.820 I think it's true.
00:17:44.820 You know, Ezra, there are, again,
00:17:46.820 I'll use two different baskets.
00:17:48.820 Are the
00:17:50.820 small things in Canada broken?
00:17:52.820 Sure they are. The passports.
00:17:54.820 The delivery of services by the bureaucrats.
00:17:56.820 The RCMP
00:17:58.820 failing to investigate
00:18:00.820 Trudeau when he was
00:18:02.820 clearly committed
00:18:04.820 obstruction of justice.
00:18:06.820 Unprecedented.
00:18:08.820 His own minister, his
00:18:10.820 attorney general, gets fired.
00:18:12.820 That is a clear crime.
00:18:14.820 No investigation.
00:18:16.820 Are our institutions,
00:18:18.820 many of them broken?
00:18:20.820 Yes.
00:18:21.820 Are our delivery systems broken?
00:18:23.820 Yes.
00:18:24.820 But those, in my view,
00:18:26.820 are all fixable.
00:18:27.820 They're fixable in the sense that,
00:18:29.820 you know, you can get back to delivering better services.
00:18:34.820 You can get back to doing proper with your institutions.
00:18:39.820 But what I'm worried about is who we are as a country.
00:18:43.820 I'm surprised that there is no great outrage
00:18:47.820 for the pillars that define Canadians.
00:18:50.820 Again, you know, as an Italian immigrant, I became intellectually and very close to someone like Preston Manning.
00:18:59.820 Now, he and I didn't have the same childhood.
00:19:01.820 We certainly didn't come of the same world.
00:19:03.820 We certainly had nothing in common except of the principles that we believed that created Canada, these principles.
00:19:10.820 And that's true of a lot of people.
00:19:13.820 So that's what unites Canada.
00:19:15.820 What I'm worried about is these four principles were deeply attacked.
00:19:19.820 And I don't know whether these pillars have been knocked down or whether they've been just cracked and whether they can be fixed.
00:19:26.820 But to me, once you, like Ezra, here's what's very important for your viewers and listeners to know.
00:19:33.820 Once these four fundamental values are gone, there is no Canada.
00:19:38.820 There is no Canada.
00:19:39.820 Once our free speech is gone, there is no Canada.
00:19:43.820 Once our freedom of assembly is gone, there is no Canada.
00:19:46.820 I mean, you know, can we fix passport issues?
00:19:49.820 Yeah.
00:19:50.820 But so here's these things that are being under attack.
00:19:53.820 Ezra, every day I wake up and I go, oh, my God, why aren't Canadians screaming at the top of their lungs saying our country is being broken by this one individual?
00:20:06.820 And the simple answer is that the megaphones or the Canadians are the mainstream media and they've been paid to shut up.
00:20:15.820 Yeah.
00:20:16.820 And they're the ones who were first.
00:20:17.820 I mean, as a kid, Ezra, though, come on, Ezra, the investigative reporters, these were the guys that were going after government.
00:20:26.820 Speak truth to power.
00:20:27.820 Speak truth to power.
00:20:29.820 Every media association was speaking truth to power.
00:20:32.820 That's what kept our institutions clean, our government officials clean and our way of governance the best in the world.
00:20:42.820 But our institutions, sorry, our media have been paid to put on the team jersey and the team jersey happens to be red liberal.
00:20:54.820 You know, I remember about 10 years ago, Boris Johnson, who was he became the mayor of London, then he went on to become the PM of the UK.
00:21:01.820 He loved writing essays.
00:21:03.820 And I mean, it's a typically British thing.
00:21:06.820 You're a politician, but you're also a journalist and you're this.
00:21:09.820 It's a funny country.
00:21:10.820 But he wrote an article once where he defended what he called the gutter press.
00:21:16.820 Like he used that word, the gutter press, the tabs.
00:21:21.820 And he said the gutters are clean because of the gutter press, because politicians are terrified that if they take a secret deal or do a secret thing, it's actually a gutter journalist that's going to expose them.
00:21:34.820 It was actually a beautiful and funny way of defending scrappy, grubby journalists.
00:21:41.820 I mean, he and he embraced the word gutter press.
00:21:44.820 And we have the opposite of that now.
00:21:47.820 We don't even have the fancy press.
00:21:50.820 I mean, there are a few exceptions.
00:21:52.820 Let me acknowledge that.
00:21:53.820 But yeah, sure.
00:21:54.820 I'm worried about it.
00:21:55.820 And you spot on in a few weeks.
00:21:58.820 In fact, less than two weeks, the Trucker Commission of Inquiry will give its report.
00:22:04.820 That's Justice Rolo, who oversaw that.
00:22:08.820 And I believe that there's a real likelihood he's going to criticize the government for inappropriately imposing the emergency.
00:22:15.820 I could be wrong.
00:22:16.820 Some people are pessimistic.
00:22:17.820 They think that he's not going to hold them to account.
00:22:20.820 I think this judge is going to hold them to account.
00:22:21.820 And I think what's going to happen, Manny, is the same thing when the ethics judge ruled against Trudeau, which is absolutely broken the conflict of interest law.
00:22:31.820 And Trudeau shrugs and says, oh, it's a learning experience for us all.
00:22:35.820 We'll all do better.
00:22:36.820 He pays the $500 fine and it's over.
00:22:38.820 Exactly.
00:22:39.820 And the country says, oh, well, that's who we are now.
00:22:42.820 We're not the clean, squeaky clean country anymore.
00:22:46.820 We accept this level of corruption.
00:22:47.820 It's just who we are.
00:22:48.820 That's what I'm afraid of, Manny.
00:22:50.820 Yeah, you're absolutely right.
00:22:51.820 And you know what?
00:22:52.820 It's because our guy did it, so it's okay.
00:22:55.820 Now, you brought up a great point.
00:22:57.820 I mean, if the gutter press, the press is great at keeping people clean.
00:23:05.820 Now, I'll give you two examples.
00:23:07.820 Senator Duffy, who I know, went through three years of hell, 33 criminal charges.
00:23:15.820 The RCMP went through everything.
00:23:18.820 Some charges were as low as $100 or $200, about $90,000 in total.
00:23:23.820 The court basically said, these are legitimate expenses, let alone.
00:23:28.820 But the press camping at the courthouse.
00:23:31.820 Ezra, I went to the courthouse a couple of times.
00:23:33.820 I was still practicing law.
00:23:35.820 And there was a ton of press.
00:23:38.820 Like, never shall this happen again that a senator spends a dollar a wrong way.
00:23:44.820 What a beautiful way to keep Canada clean.
00:23:47.820 Bev Oda, Minister Oda, who I know, went to a different hotel because she was a smoker.
00:23:55.820 She's addicted to smoking.
00:23:56.820 She had a breakfast.
00:23:57.820 Do you know what her breakfast was?
00:23:59.820 She didn't have the buffet.
00:24:00.820 She had a $16 orange juice.
00:24:03.820 $16, Ezra.
00:24:05.820 That was enough for the media to get her rooted out of town.
00:24:10.820 The town in Harper had no choice but to remove her from cabinet for that $16.
00:24:15.820 Well, what's happening today?
00:24:17.820 We literally have, I read an article that the CRA is not going to investigate, I think it was $12 or $20 billion worth of CRB, those COVID payments.
00:24:28.820 We're not going to look at it.
00:24:29.820 It's true to spending $100 million here or two.
00:24:31.820 We're not going to look at it.
00:24:32.820 It's not.
00:24:33.820 The media is not concerned about the hundreds of millions of dollars that are lost.
00:24:36.820 So the answer is, I mean, even if I was not a conservative and I hated the conservative party, I'd vote conservative because then I'd know they'd be accountable.
00:24:49.820 I'd have all the media looking at them because it doesn't happen when the liberals are in power.
00:24:54.820 And look what happens.
00:24:56.820 The same is true.
00:24:57.820 I don't know if you saw, there's a list of all the contributors that FTX fellow in the States did.
00:25:04.820 Right.
00:25:05.820 And he gave literally billions of dollars to politicians.
00:25:09.820 And if you look at the list, Ezra, 90% of the politicians were Democrats.
00:25:15.820 No, I mean, 95% and about 5% were rhino Republicans.
00:25:21.820 That's a tell to you that that's who are part of the system that keeps this brokenness going.
00:25:29.820 So, you know, yeah, I mean, hey, I love the media.
00:25:33.820 I loved, I mean, you know, as a conservative, I mean, Harper was put through hell on every dollar he spent.
00:25:41.820 There's another, Ezra, you might remember when Stephen Harper put out the $60 billion for the stimulus plan in 2008, 2009.
00:25:52.820 Every, there are two reporters, I won't mention them, but they're liberals, you know, and I know them and they know me.
00:25:59.820 But two reporters went through every dollar of the $60 billion to find out, ha ha, these crooked guys, they probably gave it to their conservative friends.
00:26:09.820 At the end of the two year investigation, they found that more money was given to NDP ridings, not conservative ridings, and not $1 was misspent.
00:26:18.820 But at least the exercise went.
00:26:20.820 And I know the exercise happened.
00:26:22.820 I'm asking who's going through the trillion dollars that have been spent.
00:26:26.820 We see reports of billions lost, billions there.
00:26:29.820 And there's reports of Trudeau's friends and families getting money.
00:26:33.820 And well, you know what?
00:26:34.820 We don't care.
00:26:35.820 It's our side that's taking the money.
00:26:37.820 Yeah.
00:26:38.820 You know, it's funny you say that.
00:26:39.820 Let me switch gears, but I think there's an analogy here.
00:26:41.820 As you know, yesterday the National Post did a story on the lawsuit we're filing against Stephen Gilbeau for blocking us on Twitter.
00:26:50.820 And I noticed that Kara Zwiebel of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association has been interviewed a lot on the subject.
00:26:57.820 And she says, well, there are some reasons the minister might do that if Rebel News was being harassing of him.
00:27:05.820 We weren't harassing him.
00:27:07.820 We weren't accused of that.
00:27:09.820 Twitter certainly wouldn't allow that.
00:27:11.820 It was just speculation on her part.
00:27:13.820 And I wrote Kara Zwiebel a letter today.
00:27:15.820 I said, you know, if you're having trouble seeing how it's wrong that a government department can ban its peaceful political critics from getting government services.
00:27:28.820 I said, just do a thought exercise, Kara.
00:27:30.820 Imagine it's Stephen Harper.
00:27:32.820 Oh, sure.
00:27:33.820 Doing this to your friends at the Toronto Star.
00:27:35.820 Sure.
00:27:36.820 If you're having trouble getting in touch with your civil liberties, and I congratulated her for waking up from her three year slumber during the civil liberties inferno of the pandemic.
00:27:47.820 I mean, it's a bit gross, Matty, that the Canadian Civil Liberties Association has more to say in defense of Stephen Gilboa than they had to say about the lockdown.
00:27:55.820 But what I said to Kara was, why don't you just pretend it's Stephen Harper doing this?
00:27:59.820 And maybe you can find your civil liberties voice.
00:28:01.820 Why doesn't, and that's, you're so, this goes to your point about the media are very critical and skeptical when it's a conservative in office.
00:28:10.820 But because it's their dear friend, Justin, they're all on a first name basis with him.
00:28:15.820 Justin.
00:28:16.820 And Justin called me.
00:28:17.820 And Justin invited me to the Christian party.
00:28:19.820 And Justin.
00:28:20.820 And I got a selfie with Justin.
00:28:22.820 You know what?
00:28:23.820 They never called him Stephen.
00:28:25.820 Yeah, I know.
00:28:26.820 They just called him Harper.
00:28:27.820 But I wish that the conservatives were in office because all these terrible ideas like censorship would not be rolled over by the media party.
00:28:35.820 I think that's the analogy to, under Harper, they scrutinized every $16 orange juice.
00:28:41.820 Ezra, you don't have to give a what if.
00:28:44.820 I'm going to give you a what was analogy, all right?
00:28:48.820 And you're absolutely right.
00:28:50.820 Not only the Canadian Liberties Association, but I'm going to venture and say that the vast majority of the institutions are on the liberal side and being the liberal voice.
00:29:02.820 Now, let me give you a what actually happened.
00:29:04.820 I was still practicing law.
00:29:06.820 And I know Stephen Harper.
00:29:08.820 He's not a bigot.
00:29:09.820 He's not an Islamophobic.
00:29:13.820 But there was Omar Khadr's lawyer who called the prime minister a bigot and Islamophobic because his Department of Justice was defending the claim of Omar Khadr.
00:29:32.820 Now, quickly, legally, it was a proper defense.
00:29:37.820 You had to put the lawyers on this.
00:29:40.820 But he was called a bigot and Islamophobic.
00:29:44.820 And I was a lawyer saying, oh, my God.
00:29:47.820 No lawyer should be saying that.
00:29:49.820 That is crossing the line.
00:29:51.820 He's going to get disciplined or disbarred for saying something as offensive as that.
00:29:56.820 It certainly wasn't the prime minister directing that.
00:29:59.820 Now, flip to what's happened with Jordan Peterson.
00:30:04.820 Jordan Peterson retweeted a tweet that was not complimentary of this prime minister.
00:30:12.820 Now, of Justin Trudeau.
00:30:15.820 What happened to Jordan Peterson?
00:30:17.820 The association that governs him is now disciplining him and looking into him.
00:30:25.820 And some form of discipline may or may not come to Jordan Peterson because he simply expressed a political opinion.
00:30:33.820 And it wasn't offensive at all.
00:30:35.820 Just retweeted a tweet from the official opposition, Pierre Poliver.
00:30:40.820 He saw the association that he belongs to trying to go after him.
00:30:46.820 What did the lawyer, Omar Lawyers, get for calling a prime minister a bigot and Islamophobic?
00:30:54.820 Was he disciplined by the Alberta Law Society, which you know?
00:30:58.820 What do you think happened?
00:30:59.820 He was elevated.
00:31:00.820 Elevated to a bencher.
00:31:02.820 Yeah.
00:31:03.820 Yeah.
00:31:04.820 And one of Carter's lawyers has gone on to be a judge.
00:31:06.820 Right.
00:31:07.820 So there's your, you don't need to, you don't need to, you know, go into hypotheticals.
00:31:13.820 I can list you real examples of how the discrimination is there.
00:31:18.820 I mean, here's Jordan Peterson retweeting the official opposition's tweet, something benign, something.
00:31:25.820 And this fellow standing, calling the prime minister a bigot, Islamophobe, gets elevated to a bencher in Alberta.
00:31:32.820 What a joke.
00:31:33.820 So that's all you need.
00:31:34.820 I have literally, I could, I could create a thesis on this because I've watched it when I was giving advice to conservative party members.
00:31:41.820 Uh, you know, you know, so there's a lot of examples.
00:31:44.820 Yeah.
00:31:45.820 Interesting times.
00:31:46.820 Well, Manny, I think you have made the case that Canada is broken.
00:31:50.820 I think it's fixable.
00:31:51.820 Uh, I think the hope lies with the people.
00:31:55.820 The other day I showed a, an image of the topics that Canadians write to Trudeau about.
00:32:02.820 And they were all real topics that people are worried about, whether it's the carbon tax or the government approach to COVID.
00:32:09.820 It's not Trudeau's favorite wedge issues.
00:32:12.820 It's not transgenderism.
00:32:13.820 It's not extreme feminism.
00:32:15.820 It's not wokeism.
00:32:16.820 It's none of this.
00:32:17.820 It's not global warming.
00:32:18.820 Trudeau likes to talk about what he likes to talk about for political advantage, but it is not what Canadians care about.
00:32:24.820 I believe that Canadians want to heal and fix this country.
00:32:28.820 And I think that Trudeau, God willing, will not be long in that office.
00:32:31.820 Well, good last word to you, my friend.
00:32:34.820 Yeah, no, a very, very simple point is that, uh, you have to have a leader that really believes in the values that are, that are in our charter and that were given to my father in 1967.
00:32:45.820 Uh, Trudeau does not.
00:32:47.820 Uh, and that is not to say that every liberal doesn't, but certainly Trudeau has demonstrated he's not.
00:32:53.820 Uh, and, and so that's the simple answer.
00:32:56.820 He is, I mean, to use the emergency act for something as small and petty as that, you deprive people to, to, to, to breach three or four sections of the charter rights.
00:33:06.820 You know, the mobility section, you can't get on the plane.
00:33:09.820 You know, that's just absurd.
00:33:10.820 There's no science to that, that you can't have a job.
00:33:13.820 We won't listen to your religious exemptions.
00:33:15.820 These are three.
00:33:17.820 He's basically breached six or seven of the tenements in our charter.
00:33:21.820 That is a person that should never leave Canada or accept that Canada is not going to be what it was and what it is.
00:33:29.820 And it's now just a rogue state.
00:33:31.820 Yeah.
00:33:32.820 Manny, great to see you again.
00:33:33.820 Thanks for your fighting spirit, your freedom loving spirit.
00:33:36.820 Great to see you again.
00:33:38.820 Thank you.
00:33:39.820 All right.
00:33:40.820 There you have it.
00:33:41.820 Manny Montenegreno, the CEO of ThinkSharp.
00:33:42.820 Stay with us.
00:33:52.820 That's the show for today.
00:33:53.820 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rubber World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:33:58.820 And keep fighting for freedom.